Can a Tuned 650 HP Ford Expedition Grocery Getter Outrun a Mustang GT V8?
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That Expedition would be a really fun ride to have! 5 seconds 0-60 mph with 5 big guys in the truck and 20 mpgs?! Take my money.
I have one it feels fast stock I cant wait till I get this upgrades done to mine. Put the foxbody to the track and race both!lol
Yeah okay soccer mom you got your self a deal
Billy Underwood How fast would it be if you added 4 big guys?
@@syoung20001 about Mach 3 when added farts in the cab
Get a super crew f150 fits same guys has bed and it’s cheaper to buy with the 5.0 and toss on a 4500$ twin turbo kit and will do 800/800
I just bought a new expedition. My friend just brought a new bullett mustang. Maybe I should do this a wipe the smile off his face😎
At the end of the day you still have an expedition and he has a cooler car
Stock gt's have gone 11's so no one needs to get all worked up over this "race" when that's not the gt's best run! But very impressive for the expedition
Bullets are manuals so you’re probably already quicker 😂😂😂
@@Chris-hw4mq When the Expedition came out, it was the COOL car in California. Harley type guys were buying them like crazy.
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Am I the only one who thinks Andre looks like the hotel manager from home alone 2?
"I Love you!!" Lol
Is it just me or does Andre remind anyone else of Everybody Loves Raymond?! Hahaha.
Of course, a much more handsome and strong guy in Andre !
Yeah, he sort of looks like Ray Romano. Doesn't sound anything like him though, lol.
No. But the mannerisms and looks are there. Andea's a lot bigger but still reminds me of Ray.
YESSSS
Supa Doopa
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Wow that crazy, those eco boost engines have power, reminds me of my old grand national.
I always enjoy watching these videos to see Andre and his usual, "uh-oh... I just crapped my pants" look on his face.
Yeah, E85 is quite a bit cheaper, but the gas milage also drops around 20-30%. Cool stuff for driving fast... not so cool in a daily family hauler.
Depends on price and how much driving you do daily. If the E85 is 30% cheaper, it's a wash.
A flex fuel tune would fix that problem. Allowing you to alternate between premium gas and E85. Not sure if the new Expedition comes from the factory with flex fuel ethanol sensor though. Could also go with two dedicated tunes, 1 for pump gas and 1 for E85.
I know it’s not the same everywhere, but where I live E85 is typically 65-80 cents cheaper than 87. That more than makes up for the mpg difference. I usually lose 3 mpg average.
If mpgs really that much of an issue buy econoboxes.
Ethanol is not my first choice in cold weather though.
the expedition is so smooth riding and such a amazing vehicle to begin with! 😍😍❤️❤️
I had a 2004 and I loved it. Terrible gas mileage then, but damn it was a beast!
Will definitely be doing this to the ecopowerparts 18 Navigator!
KNOCK! KNOCK!
Who's there?
Connecting Rod... And overstressed piston rings.
Not true. Have you read about these new Ford engines? They can easily handle this increased combustion chamber pressure..
jeffrey rogers yeah in a 3000 lbs Ford GT, not in a 5000 lbs Expedition. Either way, that engine won’t last 50,000 miles, and as far as that transmission goes, I give it to the next oil change.
They will last. They said the first gen Ecoboost won't last and they did. Watch the stress test videos Ford puts these engines through. And that 10 speed ain't going to blow either, it's not a cvt
My best friend has a 2011 EcoBoost F150 that's boosted InTune enough to run 12 90s and he has done so for over a hundred and forty thousand miles. Your argument doesn't hold water
And tow something behind it and
KNOCK! KNOCK!
Who's there?
Snapped drive shaft
I got a 2021 Expedition Max. I thought the V6 was going to disappoint me, but nope… It’s the body panels and exterior trim/molding. Feels like it was put together with duct tape.
I'm running the 93 street tune on my Raptor that Josh installed at TRR. love the tune, tons of power!
Tim Barnard run the 93 Performance tune instead lol thank me later
@@2KCamaroZ28SS i had nothing but problems with their tunes... i will never use 5 star tunes again.
May sound "like a hair dryer" 🤣🤣🤣 but that's impressive numbers on the ecoboost.
Update : this 2022 expedition with e30 , and mild bolt ons is absolutely insane . I haven’t ran a draggy on it yet , but I’ve smoked 3 different trx pickups and a bolt on scat pack charger .
Amazing how much difference a tune “for the most part” makes !
I like these vids!! You have to pay to play no matter what platform and accept the risk that goes with it. But a 650hp Expedition is just awesome!!
Dang... Andre took off in the mustang like he had stollen a $million$ large
I'm glad to see that it was sort of mentioned how hard it is to actually get the ethanol mix correct using pump gas.
Short answer for those just tuning in: If the Mustang sleeps on the line then yes, by about 2 feet.
😂
That Expedition would smoke my 2 valve Mustang GT :(
I saw that as well haha
awesome expedition though, mustang always wins in 1/4 looks like
And you have to keep in mind that Gen 3 Coyote can put 500 horses to the ground n/a with a few bolt ons..... about 600 crank.
@@SirtubalotTX also the Gen 3 Coyote has been shown to hold up to 1000-1200hp on stock internals. That's pretty insane.
I’ve been using my SCT 5Star 93 tow tube for a week now. Absolutely love it. Also they sent me a E50 tune, I can’t wait to use it in my truck.
Their customer service is Awesome too!
This is getting to be too funny.... I test drove an F150 a few months back(bought it), and the next week you guys released the "I love/hate my new car" video of the lead foot grey F150, and now just the other day, I am now looking at an expedition for the wife, and what have u released??? This is either too coincidental or meant to be lol
Buy it for her. Then do the mods without telling her 😁
A tuned Ford Expedition... Now I've seen everything 😮
Look at some of John Henesseys videos.
People were hot roding the first gen expeditions, superchargers were just a start back then.
Never seen a Trackhawk? 707HP JEEP
woodyfive0, ranish with one, one time. That shit is quick, really quick.
Man people sure have gotten immature. the whole point of the SUV was to haul the family around on long vacation trips and enjoy maybe going a little off road not much. I don't understand the point of drag racing a family vehicle. just seems redundant if you ask me. if I want to drag race I'll get my sports car out! Lol the world continues to decline in Common Sense.
Pretty cool mod! Wonder how much that decreases the reliability of the expedition over the long term, if at all?
MP_2121 i honestly believe reliability wont change much if any. Stock motor and turbos, so injectors and all the same. Im guessing a high flow cat so less restriction. Unless you are putting that sucker to the floor every day id bet it would still be very reliable, but that usually goes the same with every vehicle.
I'm getting myself an expedition 😂😍👌
I don't think Mr. Stark likes other cars than Audi.. You're a fake!
You should.
Do the same tune but on the Timberland or stealth performance expedition instead to see how much extra horsepower you can push out
😂 that expedition is a ticking time bomb with that ecoburst
It's amazing what just a ECU tune can do with modern engines today!
Only because of the manufacturer being super conservative with forced induction engines.
@@willmiller9631 Yeah, need the engine and transmission to last longer than the warranty...lol.
The perks of a turbo engine 😁
Definitely a bigger difference since the turbo..
You need to take the tuned expedition vs a stock 4wd expedition
Honestly if you're a quarter-mile guy you first have to dial in your eighth of a mile first.
And the quarter-mile will come in later at a better time because it's your 60 foot that really counts to get a good quarter-mile time.
LOL please stop pretending you know shit about drag racing!
That’s one damn impressive Expedition!! For a $2,500 upgrade, you simply cannot beat that level of performance. There’s no way! If I had that Expo, I’d definitely shell out the money for that. And I thought my ‘04 Expo XLT was pretty sweet. It had nothing on this bad boy. Awesome video! Probably my favorite so far 👍. A huge 👍 to 5Star Tuning!
Seriously! I have the new ford explorer ST with the Tune taking me to 500 hp. When the kids get a little older in a couple years I'm gonna get the Expedition Stealth and tune that all the way up. You can't beat it.
Not a bad price at all for 250 horse. But it would have been better if you ran it on 93 to see the comparison because that is what most people will run.
The tuner guy deliberately started slow to make the expedition look better, andre wasn't on board lol
They should put the 5.0 in the expedition
more options are nice but the 3.5 ecoboost is superior. they should put that engine in the mustang.
@@JahyMoonwalker It's got more power so yeah in that case it is superior. Longevity and repair cost, it's not. Or sound
Twin turbo 5.0*
Seen many 3.5s cruise past 200k with no issues. But no argument, the 5.0 has legendary reliability.
They would be slower lol
They helped Andre break the drive shaft on a tuned F-150 in a previous video.
LOL Thats because he was trying to launch a truck with a camper hooked up. The wheel hopping is what killed it.
I personally wouldn’t do a blend of e85.
My preference would be water methanol injection.
You can source the fluids from cheap walmart washer fluid
I'm getting my 2021 Expedition Max Platinum some of these goodies asap
Do not like e85 in my daily. It gets such horrible mpg. Let's see a 93 tune.
It will slow down a good bit. Alcohol helps supress detonation so you can run more boost. Can't run nearly as much boost on pump fuel.
E85 hurts mpg by 20 to 25 %
E85 is corn alcohol. We as a population should demand the government keep our food supply out of our fuel. It was started when big Agra farmers lobbied to sell more corn.
Generally you'll have a 93 and E85 tune. That way when you want to go full tilt you just run E85.
Aussie2u corn is bad for ya anyways
All in all, it's very impressive that the big, heavy Expedition can be as fast as a stock V8 Mustang. But if you were to do the same mods to the V8 Mustang, it would bury that Expedition, like it was standing still!
There's a huge push to get rid of V8's, but I hope it doesn't happen. Turbocharged 4 and 6 cylinder vehicles will never ever have the glorious sound of the V8.
A tune and downpipe is not going to net anywhere near the power gained on the expedition. It would still be well below 650 horsepower. Even on E85 the Cotoye makes less than 550hp.
Don't get me wrong, I love V8s, but you would have to boost the Coyote to make similar power figures. That being said, a boosted Coyote is capable of well beyond 650hp.
I don't understand why there isn't an Eco boost 5.0
@@jamesgunnyreed Eco is a bit of an overstatement in that case lol
@@jamesgunnyreed because people wouldnt know what to do with all that power.lol
@@BradenCarlsonAutos an FBO coyote with cams will easily surpass 600 hp
trackhawk better watch out. that heavy ass hemispherical anchor doesn't stand a chance against this highly tuneable turbo v6
Yea the track hawk will always be faster by weight and power and its awd. But that doesn't take away from how insanely fast this suv is for this size
Who needs to watch out is the supercharged cadillac escalade V. Cause with a HO navigator 3.5 with even more power will give it a run for its money
This is the car for when mom forgets the groceries and needs to become a racer to get them
Andre was really giving it the beans!
I am A look curious now about the Ford Flex with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I am hearing it as well can up to 600hp easily and out running Hell Cats on the drag strip. Please do a show around a tuned Flex! You guys are great, love the videos!
Lol that truck at 600hp isn't outrunning hellcats buddy. And this is coming from a starch blue oval guy. A stock hellcat here in MI at Milan, runs 11s consistently
Idk man , on the track I could see it but stop light to stop light the awd suv is gonna wreck it with 650 hp
@@boostedbadboyzx12r31I’ve got a buddy with an f-150 crew cab 4x4 with an e50 tune and he runs 12.5. A flex is lower and lighter plus you can get it in all wheel drive so it may not be that far away from 11’s
I have a 2017 Expedition, stock……ready to make mods…..I have the 3.73 rear end!!! Its already quick off the line…..how much better will it be?? You got a 4.66 0-60…..what would a 3.73 get??
Was gonna say first race, dude was sleeping in the stang. Lol
You all are cheating with only running 1/8 mile ! But I still love my 5 star ;)
Prob an insurance coverage thing. Keeps the top mph down.
That SUV weighs a lot more that’s not cheating it’s being realistic
lol. An 8th of a mile is hardly any kinda race at all.
No it’s cheating!!!!! Also insurance doesn’t matter because you have no insurance on any race track / drag strip! Also their other videos where 1/4 mile it just so happens they pick 1/8 for this race and on the second race the expedition got its butt spanked soooooo yea cheating and sand bagging !
William Dubya um tracks and organizers always carry insurance...
Anyone but me think the drag race really just came down to the driver? Andre had better reaction times both races and that's what decided it.
expedition still posted the fastest times in the end
1/8 mile sucks, run the full quarter mile
1/4 mile sucks, run full 1 mile.
The mustang would just pull ahead more at the higher speeds.
(foot tapping incessantly) still waiting on Edge Sport 2.7TT tuning.... wife is getting impatient.
ZeeX-14R SE My wife drives a 14’ Edge sport and I’ve been trying to talk her into upgrading! Lol Man that will be a fun little ride with a tuned 2.7 eco in the new edge! Especially awd ones with boosted launches!
this is what I’ve been waiting for
Had a 17 Expedition EL, lightly modded I was murdering SS Camaros at stoplights, it was a sight to see 😂😂😂
Joseph Whiskey Beale What did you get?
Wish Andre and Nethan did the drag race. Other driver seem to be really bad at the drag.
currently browsing videos of the expedition after finding out my dad has two turbos under the hood and the same engine as a ford gt
Great gains for simple bolt on and tune!!! Nice!!
South Carolina! I would bet it's not California compliant. Maybe, but this is a good opportunity to dis Cali.
What is the stock boost pressure vs the tuned boost pressure ?
Probably double. My 2011 3.5 EcoBoost f150 was 12psi stock and my tune was 22psi. My tune only made 407whp, 536wtq with 93oct. The 3.5 has come a long way since then.
Andrea has badass reaction time of the line 🤣 big difference on the times
Nice Powe with touching the engine
So at the pump you have to put half E85 and half 93???
Just snagged a 2022 expedition limited , that came with the H.o raptor engine . I already ordered an intercooler from livernois catch can and tuning from zfgracing. I really hope it’ll scoot !
When the truck was dyno was it in standard mode or sport mode? Sport mode a different truck.
Imagine doing all these mods to an ecoboost hith roof Ford Transit, would be a great sleeper.
Need to get my truck tuned waiting for warranty to expire. Really wakes up that EcoBoost.
Uhhh u can have it tuned and still have a warranty. You must be older then 40 arent you... it's ok I'll explain brother. These days you have a handheld tuner. You flash the tune for when you wanna drive fast. And when you go in for warranty work. You flash the stock tune back on. Thee end.
@@YoDooDSup I know how it works I worked for Lincoln and mercury for 27 years they can give you a hard time if you have an engine failure seen it happen. They look for any reason and have a way to check pcm to see if it's been flashed.
How is E85 environmentally friendly? You use up how much land that could be producing food? There are the fertilizers used to grow the crop (messing up many watersheds), chemicals for herbicides, pesticides (killing the bees you need to pollinate the crop to even get corn). The amount of fuel you burn in the tractors and harvesting equipment, the creation of the equipment. Hauling the corn tho the manufacturer, the manufacturing process. It all adds up. I am a farmer, not a tree hugger. I just don’t get it as a fuel. It is renewable, sort of (tractors used etc). Have they improved the yield to a point there is a net gain in fuel per acre vs what fuel you use to grow the crop and manufacture the product? I am curious.
I have a few electric quads and motorcycles I have tried out for the ranching side of the farm. They work great but when they are worked hard the range(for lack of a better term) is not that great. Go out to herd the cattle to a new pasture with the bikes and they don’t always last. They’re quiet, but don’t last. The bikes are actually really torquey and fast! Electric, going up in size for equipment, tractors, is not really there, the best electric products are too expensive! The lesser models, knockoffs, can be okay to crap. We did build a really cool lifted golf cart though! Hahaha.
Thanks Andre for the comparison! I would think if it were a quarter mile, the Mustang would always win. I like the 1/8th mile though because you basically stay at speeds that represent more everyday (?? Up to 75 mph) speeds.
Pretty cool with what the tuned Expedition does. The Mustang just sounds soooo much better!
Anyways, stay safe out there everyone!
Hmmm, last time Andre drove a tuned Ecoboost, it didn't go so well did it? Though this video just gave me a reason to trade in our '16 Expedition...
Does your '16 not have the same motor? 6 speed vs 10 but everything else is the same...
E-85 cost less but you will use about 30% more fuel.... not really a cost saving, it's about being environmentally friendlier... E-85 is good for highly boosted applications since you can "ram" more fuel in than just gasoline and make the high horsepower numbers.
It’s not for “ramming more fuel”. E85 has higher octane. You can run more ignition timing.
@@jonathanallen8236 Absolutely right... :-)
Eat Jat who cares.
@Eat Jat I was talking solely tail pipe emissions... :-)
It's not really ramming more fuel in like diesel, it's about more knock resistance which is why it's so good for boosted applications and that high compression motors love the stuff so much. That 30% more fuel is because of E85's approximately 9.8 to 1 stoich vs gasoline which is about 12.5 to 1. You inherently need more fuel so the stoich is on point.
The Expedition is a twin turbo monster. Why call it a grocery getter? I thought TFL liked trucks
Great video Andre !!!
I have a explorer sport tuned exhaust cai and map bar sensor. And I don’t think I’d beat a 5.0. But I’d smoke that super heavy expedition. For a snack.
How do you figure when in the video they run almost the same?
Spare parts exactly 😂😂😂
LoL you would get your ass handed to you.
If you have a new st , with a tune - then yes you’ll slap the shit out of the expedition .
My st with intake , zfgracing tune , and E mix , was stupidly fast
I read somewhere the engine Bay for the Expy was designed for a V8, I love the tuning but would Love to see a V8 option..
Could you imagine the new 7.3 gas v8 in that,mated to the new heavy duty 10 speed auto?
akmarksman 7.3 twin turbo “EcoBoost” V8 with the 10 speed and 4.10 gears. Muhahahaha
Okay I don't care what everybody else says but the 3.5l has so much potential.
Basically the SVT Thunder
I want to see what they're going to be able to do with the 3.0 Twin Turbo in the new Explorer. Since It's smaller (I know stlll a Big SUV) it would be more appealing to me. I could actually fit the Explorer in my garage lol. The Expedition would take up all my room.
Plus I think the new Explorer looks amazing. I am also so happy it went back to RWD architecture even if it isn't a true body on frame offroading macchine, it is a very refined smooth and decent offroader.
Ethanol ruins motorcycle engines. I run high performance rockets and EXX freaks me out I wont do it. Id like to get a new Navi and boost it so i can get my bikes to the track that much faster. XD . I like it fast what can i say?!
E85 is less efficient which lower mpg
ted101975 they run better with E85, alot of guys that run on the 1/4 they use E85
Back in the 80s buick shook up the muscle car world with a turbo 3.8 regal. Was hilarious to hear the v8 guys cry
That's great and all for the performance tuning and small bolt ons. What is your after effect with a stock transmission and turbos. I see a rebuild in the future
I wouldn't worry about it if it's got a traditional AT with proper cooler
Now for the big question. How long till the transmission gives out living behind that thing?
Travis McVey The 10R80 is a stout piece. Lots of Mustangs running over 700 crank hp with no issues.
The 10 speeds have been holding up pretty well to some serious power. Check out Boosted F150 on UA-cam, that guy is running 10s on a stock 10 speed transmission.
Travis McVey I would trust the transmission more than the engine with that tune setup.
I think he is confusing that issues that gm has had with Ford
The 10 speed in the pickups have seemingly had a lot of issues in comparison to the mustang however. I think it’s a great transmission but I’ve personally seen 3 go into limp mode during a test drive with customers. Not good for their image.
Too hot in South Carolina
Nope
please do more videos with 5-star tuning
Mustang should have been in drag mode with all nannies off, you left stability control on which pulls power during shifts.
How much for the application and how.much gas efficiency can I get. I have an 08 and would live to have this application done
Apples to apples the stang should have a 3.5 as well
Might wanna do that to my expedition
They tuned this turbos to a safe level
My question is does the aftermarket intercooler, piping, and hi-flow cats interfere with the Expedition warranty.
Man O War yup
The 3.15 gear ratio is for the 10 speed and highway driving
I should rob the bank to get one then use it to rob the bank better lol 🤣🤣
What's it do just with 93 octane - that E50 stuff is nutty to do
Those runs are amazing, but I totally disagree with 5 Star about using E85 long-term on a non-flex fuel vehicle. If the engineers at Ford designed the truck for E85, then Ford would list it on the window sticker. Also, if that cat modification isn't 50 state legal then the vehicle loses its "stock integrity" that they mentioned at 6:00.
They all have the same fuel lines no matter if it flex fuel capable or not.
Ok so someone who wants to take they're soccer mom suv to the track could care less about what's legal. Secondly someone racing it will not be running e50 or e85 permanently. They will run down their 87 or 93 fuel fill up half a tank of e85 or e50, run it all night hoping it doesn't blow and than when it's low they go and fill it back up with 93 change the tune on the fly and have a merry Christmas.
Use some common sense.
That's like assuming a criminal is gonna get worried if gun laws get stricter cause they'll ve afraid of getting additional charges after they plan a drive by or robbery.
Your reaction time is good you should be a drag racer
Mustang 0-60 supposed to be 4 sec.
Driver mod needed
If they are in the Denver area with an altitude of 4000+feet, the NA Mustang will suffer more of a power loss due to the thinner air than the bosted Navigator.
Too bad it's only an 1/8 mile. I'd be interested in seeing how aerodynamics play at higher speeds.
Got one at the dealership and took it for a ride well let’s just say a scatpack got walked #stocked
Break records and drive shafts.
650 horse just from those few mods?? That's nuts
Wonderful Aircraft welcome to 2019, I take it your from the 60s
@@jonathonsmith7694 90s actually, but I've been told I'm a bit of an old soul :p
I thought motor trend had the mustang 0-60 at about 3.9 secs for the auto.
Higher elevation
@@jaskdavis Pageland Dragway is only 446ft above sea level but with the weather in the 90's this time of year the corrected air density altitude can be around 3,000 ft above. That'll kill the times for sure. Either of those vehicles would run significantly faster on a nice 60 degree dry day.
They use experienced drivers. Not crazy Russians!
The almighty eco boost!
MBailey1977 EcoBeast
20 mins drag race !
I wonder how the transmission in that expedition will hold up.
Joseph Montgomery pretty good the 10 speed is strong
Can you do these mods to a four wheel drive and what's the HP with regular pump gas
Yes, you can see all power gains st 5startuning.com
Where did the expedition get its tune done? What shop. What state?