Love this style of review! Speaking of aero trends and marginal gains I've actually noticed several new bikes that come with 140mm rotors front and back
Yeah, totally not. So many minutes with fake laughter, stupid printed! glasses, tan side wall tires, ketones, advertising, rapha, hybris, overconfidence, lack of humbleness. Just totally off putting. Not for me.
From S-WORKS SL7/Specialized SL7 Pro to Giant TCR to Cervélo Soloist! Great bikes! I bought my Cervélo Caledonia 5 before the Soloist was even announced and regretted it as it was so much more expensive for the (lack of) performance. Cervélo did a great job pricing the Soloist and designing it between the S5 and R5. Cheaper than the Caledonia 5, Lighter than the S5 and more aero than the R5. Great bike.
@@josejpl69 If you do long distance rides 100km or above, the Caledonia 5 comfortable and great! But if you plan to do races and crits, it's heavy and slow to react. It's not as aero as the S5 and not as light as the R5 nor can it do Gravel as well as the Aspero. The Cervélo Soloist is a better bang for buck in my opinion. But if you do want a Caledonia 5, go for a higher spec Non-5 Caledonia. Atleast you'd get carbon rims and a better groupset despite the slightly heavier carbon used for the frame. Also, since it has a round seatpost, you could even change it out to an aftermarket seatpost like Darimo. Which is also why I changed to the Aethos. It's lighter and more reactive with the same Geometry as an SL7/SL8. I love the reactive feel of the acceleration but I don't race so I didn't go for the SL7. Nor do I want to go for an aero bike with proprietary parts again. The SL7 would be better than the Caledonia 5 and comparative with the Soloist. With the SL8 out, SL7 prices have dropped. The weight difference between the SL7 and SL8 is also quite substantial and the SL8 is alot thinner. But for the budget, it's hard to beat an SL7.
You mention that it's expensive for the build but... a frame is only $2700. It's half the cost of an R5 or an S5. If you already have wheels then you can do as I did and build a 1x SRAM Rival AXS with the crank power meter for like $4400.
I feel like as a crit channel, advocating for a frameset build on something like this Soloist makes sense since it is much cheaper than the typical 3300/5500 frame price points and still gives you good performance.
I have this bike with the ultegra di2 build and this bike is amazing!!! He’s right though, these aero bikes feel very similar when riding. The price point is more competitive and the cornering and just comfortable riding on the Soloist is becoming one of the most favored aspects of the bike! Don’t be fooled though I comfortably keep up with the S5s and SL7s with no problem! Zoom!
I think most of the added weight on this bike is from the groupset, a buddy of mine upgraded from mechanical to sram force Etap and it added almost a whole pound
Hey dude, I know you probably dont want to hear this, but your collarbone is looking a little proud of your shoulder; might want to get that checked. Thats what mine did after my accident, and it ended up needing completely rebuilt using tendons from my hamstring. Then again, it might just be a camera angle thing… but if you can „move“ the end of the collarbone without the shoulder moving, thats the first sign.
Lol, everyone hates on tubeless road until they run 28s at 60-65 psi. Then you realize it's better in every way, especially with GP5KSTRs. Also, the TCR is underrated for how light it is.
tubeless is superior in everyway. the only haters are the clowns like durianrider who have built a brand around appeasing their snobby 60 yr old demographic.
There’s actually less contact (rolling resistance) on tubeless when looking at the tire to pavement side profile. Wider rims make the real difference here. And of course I’ll throw in way less pinch flats!
1. Great concept for Bike review. MUCH more engaging. Seriously surprised I watched the entire video and enjoyed it. 2. I was turning volume up and down. MUSIC too loud. When I turned it down voices too soft, so back up again. 3. TRAINING PLAN. Do a video on your training plan. Typical month. (It won't kill your training plan sales, it'll boost them. Ex: See Dylan Johnson.)
I love the Soloist. I'm glad Cervelo brought it back. You're lucky. One thing I noted in your video in the commentary on the tubeless setup is the tire pressure. I run tubes, weigh 180# ( I'm guessing way more than you) and I run just under 60psi front, and just under 65psi rear in 28mm Pirellis. Couldn't you get away with even lower pressures? Would it be advantageous or not? I'm guessing there is diminishing return at some point.
Are you running these reserve 40/44s at that pressure? For your weight 60/65psi does lean on the low side if you are running tubes, though I am sure that is fine as those Reserves have really wide internal and allow you to run a bit lower pressure. Rolling resistance penalty for too high of pressure is far worse vs. too low. Diminishing returns for too low would be risk of pinch flatting/tire wear/rim damage risk on strike. In almost every scenario lower pressure is going to be the better option unless you are really sending it on rough terrain and want to protect the rim or if you have absolutely perfect pavement to ride on.
@@nickspano4709 I'm running tubes in Zipp 404 Firecrest which have a LIMIT of 73 psi/5 bar so the 60/65 psi is perfect...fast and comfortable. I appreciate your response but I think I was really looking for Jeff's take on the psi relative to HIS body weight and the crit racing he does. Apologies, I should have been less cryptic in my original post.
Spent about 500 miles on it and so far so good. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA Pros:1. Very light2. Solid quality build3. Fast delivery: It arrived 5 weeks earlier than expected.4. Easy assemblyJust a few cons but nothing major:1. Cheap tin tubes and had flat on first day... but not a big deal. I replaced the tubes.2. Seat is a bit uncomfortable but that's pretty much the same situation with most bikes.3. Seat post is a bit long/high for a smaller size 48 bike - had to saw 2 inch off to fit properly. The lowest setting is too high. The post locking system does not seem to hold well (perhaps because I saw 2 inch off).4. wheels are not tubeless compatible (from what I can tell)
I still find odd that you got such a “low” spec TCR last year. Compared to the S-Works and this one, that Giant was a steal. A higher spec, probably a TCR Advanced Pro or something, should be better on a head to head comparison. But, due to the ISP, probably not so good in case you need to sell it afterwards.
Good vid, price of the Cervelo sucks, no way it’ll sale in my neighborhood 🤪 I’m m happy with my Cervelo R3! Hey what size tires you have on the bike? Tks
I've been riding a frameset build Soloist and it has been really nice. By doing my own frameset build, I got some lighter weight parts and a few SRAM Red components for the same price as the stock Force build.
Same - red crank saved like 300+ grams + red cassette. Lighter rotors and 140 rear. Bars and saddle but lighter, but that’s more about aero and comfort. I’m down to 16.2lbs without pedals/cages.
@@JPTVII04 I went with Roval CL II. 51 front and 61 rear. Paired with new S-works road tires. Wheelset is 1590g which isn’t awful, but would love it to be zippier . They roll fast, but so get caught in the wind a bit. Overall look great.
@@JPTVII04 Base bike was $5,200; Wheelset was $1,200 on sale, BB was like $200, Saddle $330 on sale, Red crank was $530 on sale; Red cassette was $300; Bar/stem was like $400. I can prob sell some of my old stuff and recoup. I also did all the work, so that saved a bunch. If I had to do it again, I'd build out the frameset.
At some point Jeff, could you discuss what size frame you ride and your height and saddle height? I am tallish like you but don't race crits and quite sure you ride a size down from me because you are sporting what looks like Tour de France saddle to bar drop race geometry. Well done on your cockpit...not being integrated. A last note is...and this maybe crit and sprinting related, but you ride a pretty wide handlebar visually compared to other top riders of today and at the 30 mph+ speeds you routinely ride, those drag numbers matter. Ride safe and thanks for your soloist review. PS. I completely agree that the top race bikes of today feel the same.
Yeah, why does it cost so much more here in Europe? I’ve never heard anyone give a reason for this. Especially since the rest of Cervelo’s range of bikes don’t really vary in price compared to the rest of the world.
If you have different disc rotors front and back you can't swap them if they wear at different rates. Also, many people find that they use the rear brake more, so a 160 on the back makes more sense.
If you are using the rear more on the road, you really need to work on your braking technique. Even on my mountain bikes which I use the rear WAY more than on road, they both wear equally (and i have a 220mm on the front).
Have you ever tried the Ceepo bikes? Just recently discovered that brand and while the pricing of the frames seem great, could not find any recent reviews.
Ceepo is one of the less-discussed brands in the road cycling world, but I think they may be talked about more in the triathlon side as that's what they started out on. I dare say they're the original #aeroiseverything pioneer as they fiddled with it before it was cool. My last workplace sells Ceepo frames, mainly the Stinger (aero bike) and Mamba-R (do-it-all: road, triathlon, gravel, bikepacking). I got to take a Stinger for a spin for a while and it felt stiff and unyielding. A customer I know said she's faster on her new Mamba-R despite it being heavier than her Tarmac SL6 FACT 9r, even on climbs.
@@yonglingng5640I've sourced all the components & wheels and now just need to visit Thailand to get the Ceepo Mamba R. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about the bike mate. Very helpful.
Not sure I agree with "wide rim = more aero" claim...if someone can direct me to data of (for example) 25c vs 30c where the transition of tyre to rim is the same, great! To me, most aero will be the one with the smallest frontal area, best transition from tyre to rim and rim depth/profile/spoke count, potentially to the detrement of rolling resistance/weight/comfort. I predict we'll see road bikes going back to 25c for their next iteration of improvement at some point soon 😊 It's my gripe about the S5, all that aero then massive gap to tyres to allow 34c to fit...who's buying an S5 and fitting 34c?!?!?!
@@NorCalCycling Rule of 105 saying if you're gonna have a wide tyre, you need a wide rim, which you've got. But if you had a narrower tyre and narrower rim it would be more aero. Bike looks awesome though! Love the paint job too, super sleek but more interesting than pure stealth black
*I don't believe Jeff's "wide rim, wide tire = more aero" is at all correct.* _All things being equal, wider CAUSES MORE aero drag._ However, if the wideness allows for the wheel to exceed the width of the tire, that has aero benefits (like a wing profile); plus a smoother tire-to-wheel transition helps (maybe "the tire-wheel combination" he mentions).
Friends i need advice, i am about to upgrade my Cervelo Soloist 2024. will these parts fit: 1. Cervelo HB13 Carbon Handlebar 2. Cervelo ST31 Carbon Stem
Perhaps weight? How often in a crit are you solo in a flat straight away taking advantage of the aero. It being lighter allows him to accelerate out of corners and ladder up to other groups perhaps. Prob specific to this style of event.
@Jason Friar I do take your point but would push back and say the moments that matter in these (generally flat) races are the 200m you're sprinting out in the wind at 60+kph, bridging etc. I would personally go aero above all else, making me think the soloist was pushed on them to support the way they sponsors want the market to go. I wait to be stood corrected, though!
@@Shadowboost Have you ridden a crit before? Again, as I explained, it depends on a lot of factors. If you're sheltered in the group the majority of the race, it may not be as helpful. What if there is a hill? Also, he's running 40/44 Reserve wheels which are also lighter - again for acceleration. An S5 comes with bulky 52/63s that are slower to accelerate. If you ride them, you feel it. Even in the TDF, they switch up bikes. They ride the R5 in some stages and the S5 in others.
Wider is not more aero. A wider, lower psi combo can in some circumstances offer better rolling resistance, but aero? No. A rim whose leading edge is a mm or two wider than than the tire that is mounted, yes. More aero.
Could you please put a graphic on the screen of what session you are doing, and the benefits? Could be good for everyone watching to add/try in their routine? Love the bike. On screen graphics, hints/tips on completing the interval, would be cool to !!! Thank for all your effort
I still can't wrap my head around racing on 28mm tires, that feel like 30's. I hung up my pin box in 2017, and always raced on 22's, since I started in the mid 80's. Part of the problem is that I still view 28's as a very heavy tire, even if it isn't.....It must be great riding on an elite team where you don't have to think about if you should try to get a few more races out of the tires glued to your race wheels, before replacing them. I'm sure that you started out paying for everything, until your results got you a slot on sponsored teams.
Also nobody glues tires so not really a consideration. Plus you can usually find high end tires at steep discounts on the right website or at the right time.
The Reserve 52/63 wheels are even wider at 35mm external up front. The widest point is in the middle of the rim and not at the rim bead edge though. Still this allows you the option to run a wider tire coupled with that wide internal for lower pressures and still be within rule of 105. Aero af AND maximizing rolling resistance/comfort. Plus a hooked rim allowing for all the tire options. Reserve crushed it on their latest gen of wheels.
A few comments: 1. It used to be that every racer that could afford it would be on top-end groups, like Dura-Ace or Red. But as the price of groups has dramatically increased, it seems to have become more standard for even well-funded teams like Mike's Bikes to be using 2nd-tier groups, paying a fractional weight penalty for similar performance. 2. I think the comment about wider tires being more aero is incorrect. It is more aero to have a wider rim if that's a better match to a tire, but nobody is using 28 mm tires to set the hour record, for example. The advantage of wider tires is reducing vibration losses (bike + rider vibrating).
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Nicely composed . Beats the heck out of a dry "this is my new bike" video.
Dang, Jeff got some gray hairs in his beard. How long have I been watching this channel now? Have a great weekend yall!
Love this style of review! Speaking of aero trends and marginal gains I've actually noticed several new bikes that come with 140mm rotors front and back
Yeah, totally not. So many minutes with fake laughter, stupid printed! glasses, tan side wall tires, ketones, advertising, rapha, hybris, overconfidence, lack of humbleness. Just totally off putting. Not for me.
From S-WORKS SL7/Specialized SL7 Pro to Giant TCR to Cervélo Soloist! Great bikes!
I bought my Cervélo Caledonia 5 before the Soloist was even announced and regretted it as it was so much more expensive for the (lack of) performance. Cervélo did a great job pricing the Soloist and designing it between the S5 and R5. Cheaper than the Caledonia 5, Lighter than the S5 and more aero than the R5. Great bike.
Same here. Although I don’t fully regret it it stings a bit.
Is this better than specialized tarmac??
@@josejpl69 If you do long distance rides 100km or above, the Caledonia 5 comfortable and great! But if you plan to do races and crits, it's heavy and slow to react. It's not as aero as the S5 and not as light as the R5 nor can it do Gravel as well as the Aspero. The Cervélo Soloist is a better bang for buck in my opinion.
But if you do want a Caledonia 5, go for a higher spec Non-5 Caledonia. Atleast you'd get carbon rims and a better groupset despite the slightly heavier carbon used for the frame. Also, since it has a round seatpost, you could even change it out to an aftermarket seatpost like Darimo.
Which is also why I changed to the Aethos. It's lighter and more reactive with the same Geometry as an SL7/SL8. I love the reactive feel of the acceleration but I don't race so I didn't go for the SL7. Nor do I want to go for an aero bike with proprietary parts again.
The SL7 would be better than the Caledonia 5 and comparative with the Soloist. With the SL8 out, SL7 prices have dropped. The weight difference between the SL7 and SL8 is also quite substantial and the SL8 is alot thinner.
But for the budget, it's hard to beat an SL7.
hey nice vid, but would be quite refreshing with some new music
Seconded, I'm starting to dream the "mid-tempo piano with EDM beat" song in every video
You mention that it's expensive for the build but... a frame is only $2700. It's half the cost of an R5 or an S5. If you already have wheels then you can do as I did and build a 1x SRAM Rival AXS with the crank power meter for like $4400.
I feel like as a crit channel, advocating for a frameset build on something like this Soloist makes sense since it is much cheaper than the typical 3300/5500 frame price points and still gives you good performance.
The Soloist looks absolutely 🔥 🔥
just got one a couple weeks ago and loving it! the 4 lbs of paint look great when the sun hits it 😂
I have this bike with the ultegra di2 build and this bike is amazing!!! He’s right though, these aero bikes feel very similar when riding. The price point is more competitive and the cornering and just comfortable riding on the Soloist is becoming one of the most favored aspects of the bike! Don’t be fooled though I comfortably keep up with the S5s and SL7s with no problem! Zoom!
I might unsub just cause of the pit vipers.
Care to explain? I've never seen them here in Asia. Are they a bad brand?.
My first thought was: damn how cool are those glasses lookin 😅
Around here they are predominantly worn by the type of person that has a big truck and will coal roll or try to scare cyclists on the road
@@facingup1624 Got it
@Facing Up So this would be an uno reverse card Jeff is playing?
I think we should get that JT guy on a bike
Ahh, so that’s where all the Soloists went! TMB… 😂 Tried to get one but crazy long wait times at Cervélo unfortunately.
Been riding an Alpenglow color Soloist for a few months now and it is AWESOME
JT just made me buy a pack of keytones
I think most of the added weight on this bike is from the groupset, a buddy of mine upgraded from mechanical to sram force Etap and it added almost a whole pound
Please for the love of god license some other music as well
That JT guy looks crazy fast let’s get him a bike
Hey dude, I know you probably dont want to hear this, but your collarbone is looking a little proud of your shoulder; might want to get that checked. Thats what mine did after my accident, and it ended up needing completely rebuilt using tendons from my hamstring. Then again, it might just be a camera angle thing… but if you can „move“ the end of the collarbone without the shoulder moving, thats the first sign.
You can keep the 160 rotors but change for some galfer or shim and you will save 130g on your wheels!
Id rather have 2 Sean and Ryans than an expensive Bike fleet
Happy new bike day!!! I just got my soloist last week as well and it’s been great ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Great wheelset. The way they have brake hoses routed is a great selling point. Simple to work on.
Very funny video, love the editing so probs to CJ, and very nice bike indeed.
This is my next bike…next year!! Have to admit I’m a Cervelo fanboy
Gotta get jt in more videos 🗣️
Maybe it’s a good time to revisit the $2000 racing set up video and/or the $4000 racing set up video with 2023 equipment.
I'm surprised your not on the new Force. Sram redid Force AXS known as gen D2. I've seen a few bikes with the new groupset.
Lol, everyone hates on tubeless road until they run 28s at 60-65 psi. Then you realize it's better in every way, especially with GP5KSTRs. Also, the TCR is underrated for how light it is.
tubeless is superior in everyway. the only haters are the clowns like durianrider who have built a brand around appeasing their snobby 60 yr old demographic.
Doesn’t it squish when you sit on the bike?
@@loc9588 no
There’s actually less contact (rolling resistance) on tubeless when looking at the tire to pavement side profile. Wider rims make the real difference here. And of course I’ll throw in way less pinch flats!
Not really an option for larger riders though is it, and sealant doesn’t work much above that pressure.
This bike is on my short list along with the new supersix evo 2. The cannondale solidly beats the cervelo in bang for buck though. $5500 vs $6800.
You’re comparing the Super Six non hi mod to the soloist which I believe is a “top tier” carbon more comparable to the hi mod at $8k+
I'm a fan of 160/160, for the looks - matching...
Great video, thanks. Just curious, how tall are you? What size bike is that? And what size stem do you use?
1. Great concept for Bike review. MUCH more engaging. Seriously surprised I watched the entire video and enjoyed it.
2. I was turning volume up and down. MUSIC too loud. When I turned it down voices too soft, so back up again.
3. TRAINING PLAN. Do a video on your training plan. Typical month. (It won't kill your training plan sales, it'll boost them. Ex: See Dylan Johnson.)
Happy new bike day!
Absolute weapon of a bike
I love the Soloist. I'm glad Cervelo brought it back. You're lucky. One thing I noted in your video in the commentary on the tubeless setup is the tire pressure. I run tubes, weigh 180# ( I'm guessing way more than you) and I run just under 60psi front, and just under 65psi rear in 28mm Pirellis. Couldn't you get away with even lower pressures? Would it be advantageous or not? I'm guessing there is diminishing return at some point.
Are you running these reserve 40/44s at that pressure?
For your weight 60/65psi does lean on the low side if you are running tubes, though I am sure that is fine as those Reserves have really wide internal and allow you to run a bit lower pressure.
Rolling resistance penalty for too high of pressure is far worse vs. too low. Diminishing returns for too low would be risk of pinch flatting/tire wear/rim damage risk on strike. In almost every scenario lower pressure is going to be the better option unless you are really sending it on rough terrain and want to protect the rim or if you have absolutely perfect pavement to ride on.
@@nickspano4709 I'm running tubes in Zipp 404 Firecrest which have a LIMIT of 73 psi/5 bar so the 60/65 psi is perfect...fast and comfortable. I appreciate your response but I think I was really looking for Jeff's take on the psi relative to HIS body weight and the crit racing he does. Apologies, I should have been less cryptic in my original post.
Allez sprints need to go down to $750 for a frame so everyone can just ride that. Case closed.
Spent about 500 miles on it and so far so good. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA Pros:1. Very light2. Solid quality build3. Fast delivery: It arrived 5 weeks earlier than expected.4. Easy assemblyJust a few cons but nothing major:1. Cheap tin tubes and had flat on first day... but not a big deal. I replaced the tubes.2. Seat is a bit uncomfortable but that's pretty much the same situation with most bikes.3. Seat post is a bit long/high for a smaller size 48 bike - had to saw 2 inch off to fit properly. The lowest setting is too high. The post locking system does not seem to hold well (perhaps because I saw 2 inch off).4. wheels are not tubeless compatible (from what I can tell)
I still find odd that you got such a “low” spec TCR last year. Compared to the S-Works and this one, that Giant was a steal. A higher spec, probably a TCR Advanced Pro or something, should be better on a head to head comparison. But, due to the ISP, probably not so good in case you need to sell it afterwards.
Yup tubeless wins. I have 30mm GP5000's and running 60 PSI makes it so much more comfortable, aka can then do longer rides with much less fatigue.
Jeff with da pitties 😎😎
Good vid, price of the Cervelo sucks, no way it’ll sale in my neighborhood 🤪 I’m m happy with my Cervelo R3! Hey what size tires you have on the bike? Tks
deep down we never got over the loss of riding the sl7 but he cant come out an say ha
Love the bikes, but no rim brake offering, so no go.
I've been riding a frameset build Soloist and it has been really nice. By doing my own frameset build, I got some lighter weight parts and a few SRAM Red components for the same price as the stock Force build.
Same - red crank saved like 300+ grams + red cassette. Lighter rotors and 140 rear. Bars and saddle but lighter, but that’s more about aero and comfort. I’m down to 16.2lbs without pedals/cages.
@@jwfriar do you have the same stock wheels and tires or did you change those too?
@@JPTVII04 I went with Roval CL II. 51 front and 61 rear. Paired with new S-works road tires. Wheelset is 1590g which isn’t awful, but would love it to be zippier . They roll fast, but so get caught in the wind a bit. Overall look great.
@@jwfriar do you mind me asking how much this whole setup cost?
@@JPTVII04 Base bike was $5,200; Wheelset was $1,200 on sale, BB was like $200, Saddle $330 on sale, Red crank was $530 on sale; Red cassette was $300; Bar/stem was like $400.
I can prob sell some of my old stuff and recoup. I also did all the work, so that saved a bunch. If I had to do it again, I'd build out the frameset.
no way it can be better than giant tcr.
At some point Jeff, could you discuss what size frame you ride and your height and saddle height? I am tallish like you but don't race crits and quite sure you ride a size down from me because you are sporting what looks like Tour de France saddle to bar drop race geometry. Well done on your cockpit...not being integrated.
A last note is...and this maybe crit and sprinting related, but you ride a pretty wide handlebar visually compared to other top riders of today and at the 30 mph+ speeds you routinely ride, those drag numbers matter.
Ride safe and thanks for your soloist review.
PS. I completely agree that the top race bikes of today feel the same.
If im not mistaken, Reserve is Cervelo's hweel brand, like Roval is to Specialized and Bontrager to Trek.
Those intervals brutal man I’m 54 I still race masters crits never gets easier
Very impressive. As long as you're happy keep it up. Those are high watts compared to everyday/new riders
"will it make you happy, will it make you ride more?" Best reason to buy a new bike!
Long time subscriber, first time commenting here.😅 When you do 6x6 what is your rest in between time? Thanks!
THIS JUST IN: Man who gets free bikes, wheels, and tyres, loves them and recommends them. ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING
Judging by most comments, Cervelo is getting a good return on investment with these "reviews" 😅
Soloist vs Tarmac SL7? Forget about the cost.
Love the bike. Would get it but I feel like it's super overpriced here in Europe
Yeah, why does it cost so much more here in Europe? I’ve never heard anyone give a reason for this. Especially since the rest of Cervelo’s range of bikes don’t really vary in price compared to the rest of the world.
The soloist 2023 is inferior to the S3 2020. That was the true successor to the Soloist Carbon 2006. This bike is master of none and jack of nothing.
It was good enough for Paris Roubaix (even though the tire choices didn't seem to be ideal) :p
Jt new couch to crit rider?
Jeff sounds progressively drunk as the efforts go on
What sunglasses are those?
They look great 👍 🔥
Big shoutout to that squirrel helping to demo the bike in the b-roll
If you have different disc rotors front and back you can't swap them if they wear at different rates. Also, many people find that they use the rear brake more, so a 160 on the back makes more sense.
Agreed. And the small weight penalty is worth the extra stopping power.
People use the rear brake more??
They're braking wrong, most of the work should be done on the front brake. 75% front 25% rear. I can bet when they brake, they drag them.
If you are using the rear more on the road, you really need to work on your braking technique. Even on my mountain bikes which I use the rear WAY more than on road, they both wear equally (and i have a 220mm on the front).
I think I saw in the last vid that you was on a cervelo
Have you ever tried the Ceepo bikes? Just recently discovered that brand and while the pricing of the frames seem great, could not find any recent reviews.
Ceepo is one of the less-discussed brands in the road cycling world, but I think they may be talked about more in the triathlon side as that's what they started out on. I dare say they're the original #aeroiseverything pioneer as they fiddled with it before it was cool.
My last workplace sells Ceepo frames, mainly the Stinger (aero bike) and Mamba-R (do-it-all: road, triathlon, gravel, bikepacking).
I got to take a Stinger for a spin for a while and it felt stiff and unyielding. A customer I know said she's faster on her new Mamba-R despite it being heavier than her Tarmac SL6 FACT 9r, even on climbs.
@@yonglingng5640I've sourced all the components & wheels and now just need to visit Thailand to get the Ceepo Mamba R. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about the bike mate. Very helpful.
Man that guy JT looks like he would shred the bike
as a mountain biker watching this is hilarious
Not sure I agree with "wide rim = more aero" claim...if someone can direct me to data of (for example) 25c vs 30c where the transition of tyre to rim is the same, great!
To me, most aero will be the one with the smallest frontal area, best transition from tyre to rim and rim depth/profile/spoke count, potentially to the detrement of rolling resistance/weight/comfort.
I predict we'll see road bikes going back to 25c for their next iteration of improvement at some point soon 😊 It's my gripe about the S5, all that aero then massive gap to tyres to allow 34c to fit...who's buying an S5 and fitting 34c?!?!?!
Rule of 105 🤘
@@NorCalCycling Rule of 105 saying if you're gonna have a wide tyre, you need a wide rim, which you've got. But if you had a narrower tyre and narrower rim it would be more aero.
Bike looks awesome though! Love the paint job too, super sleek but more interesting than pure stealth black
@@myrimidon202 true but wide tire is better in everything else and the aero penalty is very small
*I don't believe Jeff's "wide rim, wide tire = more aero" is at all correct.* _All things being equal, wider CAUSES MORE aero drag._ However, if the wideness allows for the wheel to exceed the width of the tire, that has aero benefits (like a wing profile); plus a smoother tire-to-wheel transition helps (maybe "the tire-wheel combination" he mentions).
bingo
Yea, otherwise fat bikes would be peak aero
Yeah, I'd like Hambini to fact check that one too 😀
It has to do with the ratio of rim to tire width look up rule of 105.
@@NorCalCycling Yes, that's what I was referring to in my 3rd sentence: "However,..." *What you said **_in this video_** was wrong.*
Ketones lucky to have such an avid ambassador
NorCal on an è-bike 😊😊👍👍👍
How does the Ventum 2023 NS1 compare? I am looking at the Soloist DI2 or the Venture DI2 with Zipp Firecrest wheels.
I like everything about these Cervelo's except how heavy they are. But I suppose Cervelo makes them heavy on purpose so you will buy their $13k S5.
There's no way I'm buying that proprietary headache.
7.8kg is the new 6.8kg 😂
Nice bike, ugly glasses…holy moly
What are your thoughts on the ketones?
The scientific consensus is they have zero effect on endurance training or performance.
Having a look at the SOLOIST 105 RACE for $4300 if I can find one.
Imma gonna go buy one!🤑💸
Love the videos, keep up the work
Standard modern bike, wide rims, electronic, tubeless, drooped seatstays, grey color 😢
Maaan, Giant was cool old school, this is a mainstream.
Friends i need advice, i am about to upgrade my Cervelo Soloist 2024. will these parts fit:
1. Cervelo HB13 Carbon Handlebar
2. Cervelo ST31 Carbon Stem
Yes it will
I got halfway through this video before you even talked about Cervelo. And then you started talking about how heavy and expensive it was. Nice dude.
For the last interval, the music was reminiscent of “I am Superman” by REM. Check that song for future segments.
For everyday riding (racing only if you want)...which would you choose: Athos or Soloist?
What happen to the BMC?
Music sounds like a generic version of AWOL Nation. Sail!
sheeeesh! The bike's awesome
I'm only 2 mins in but if not answered, why not S5? Sponsor not offering it or conscious choice to go less aero?
Perhaps weight? How often in a crit are you solo in a flat straight away taking advantage of the aero. It being lighter allows him to accelerate out of corners and ladder up to other groups perhaps. Prob specific to this style of event.
@Jason Friar I do take your point but would push back and say the moments that matter in these (generally flat) races are the 200m you're sprinting out in the wind at 60+kph, bridging etc. I would personally go aero above all else, making me think the soloist was pushed on them to support the way they sponsors want the market to go. I wait to be stood corrected, though!
@@jwfriar aero matters far more in acceleration than 100 grams at these speeds
@@Shadowboost Have you ridden a crit before? Again, as I explained, it depends on a lot of factors. If you're sheltered in the group the majority of the race, it may not be as helpful. What if there is a hill?
Also, he's running 40/44 Reserve wheels which are also lighter - again for acceleration. An S5 comes with bulky 52/63s that are slower to accelerate. If you ride them, you feel it.
Even in the TDF, they switch up bikes. They ride the R5 in some stages and the S5 in others.
Y'all all know Jeff and Julian Alaphilippe are cousins, right?
Love the VID! I'm surprised you didn't go with the S5, is there a reason?
Can’t wait to see how you perform on this very crit racing machine.
How would you compare the ride feel between the Roval Rapide CLXs and the Reserves?
JT carried
that room he was in could use a clean up 😀
Wider is not more aero. A wider, lower psi combo can in some circumstances offer better rolling resistance, but aero? No. A rim whose leading edge is a mm or two wider than than the tire that is mounted, yes. More aero.
Could you please put a graphic on the screen of what session you are doing, and the benefits? Could be good for everyone watching to add/try in their routine? Love the bike. On screen graphics, hints/tips on completing the interval, would be cool to !!! Thank for all your effort
I hope you guys can review
De rosa merak and Pininfarina
Now go get the new Propel Pro with Ultegra Di2 or even better the DuraAce Di2 w PowerMeter. 😁
I was laughing at the unnecessary zoom and nostril shots but would be happy not to see them again soon.
I do miss that Racing Green S-Works though :(
Nice...but black bikes ...meh.
Color 🌈🤙
Saratoga Springs? No way y'all are in upstate NY right now
I still can't wrap my head around racing on 28mm tires, that feel like 30's. I hung up my pin box in 2017, and always raced on 22's, since I started in the mid 80's. Part of the problem is that I still view 28's as a very heavy tire, even if it isn't.....It must be great riding on an elite team where you don't have to think about if you should try to get a few more races out of the tires glued to your race wheels, before replacing them. I'm sure that you started out paying for everything, until your results got you a slot on sponsored teams.
Also nobody glues tires so not really a consideration. Plus you can usually find high end tires at steep discounts on the right website or at the right time.
Technology has come a long way even since 2017... I'll never be a pro but I believe most of them run tubeless setups or latex tubes now.
nobody rides less than 25mm anymore, 28+mm tires are so much better in all areas
I ride 30s on the same bike and it’s super low rolling resistance and comfortable.
@@thomasgehrig7175 I use 23's in front, and 25's in back.
Don't think that I could fit 28's in my bike.
Was wondering if you were going to say anything about that Cervelo when I saw it in the Santa Cruz.
Gimme a S5. Because Aero is everything
Yup I agree she’s a chunker, but I love it
Holy shit those wheels are wide. 33mm external width on the front, 25.5mm internal. That's huge. My wide road rims are 30 and 22.5 respectively.
The Reserve 52/63 wheels are even wider at 35mm external up front. The widest point is in the middle of the rim and not at the rim bead edge though. Still this allows you the option to run a wider tire coupled with that wide internal for lower pressures and still be within rule of 105. Aero af AND maximizing rolling resistance/comfort. Plus a hooked rim allowing for all the tire options. Reserve crushed it on their latest gen of wheels.
A few comments:
1. It used to be that every racer that could afford it would be on top-end groups, like Dura-Ace or Red. But as the price of groups has dramatically increased, it seems to have become more standard for even well-funded teams like Mike's Bikes to be using 2nd-tier groups, paying a fractional weight penalty for similar performance.
2. I think the comment about wider tires being more aero is incorrect. It is more aero to have a wider rim if that's a better match to a tire, but nobody is using 28 mm tires to set the hour record, for example. The advantage of wider tires is reducing vibration losses (bike + rider vibrating).
I am on the new Rival now and it is flawless.