The most powerful filling of the Holy Spirit came to me after praying for months to be healed of an addiction I had since I was a teenager. This sin would invade my relationship with God and I'd quit mostly under my own power through prayer and repentance and after very intense honesty with God about my personal limitations and that I needed his divine intervention to get rid of my lustful desires because I knew that I could not stop on my own. At that point God laid me out. FLAT on my back. I felt the most blissful filling of this warm flow of overwhelming peace that coursed through my body and seemed to run out of the ends of my fingers and toes. My cup literally overflowed. The entire next day I had this intense peace that was with me everywhere I went. I would look at strangers at the supermarket and had this intense love for them that I'd never experienced before. I've tried talking with my church leaders about it because I wanted to make sure that this was a biblical occurrence. I never got a good explanation but I would like to thank you, Pastor John, for your explanation that it is something that can happen more than just once. Thank you also for mentioning your other episodes on this incredible subject that changed my life. I haven't revisited the sin in almost a year now. Praise Jesus!!!
Whenever The Spirit speaks through me, I'm usually humbled. People listen. Afterwards people will tell me that they felt the power of The Spirit speaking thru me. Praise Our Father for such beautiful gifts that glorify Him!
As a believer in a church that believes in the continuation of the gifts of the Spirit, I appreciate this message. God has blessed me with the gift of speaking in tongues, although it happens usually only during special times when I am seeking Him, or He pours it out on me in His mercy. Notice how Piper doesn't criticize the Pentecostal movement as some reformed teachers have. What a blessing John Piper is to the church today!
My friends recently become Reformed after watching John mcarther and now they claim that im possessed because they have seen and experienced the supernatural but because they don't believe God does that they have stopped being my mates as they think im possessed. They ain't judging by fruits, or works but by the last miracle.
@@cameronmcglynn836 As you're saying here, they've became reformed through a person. I don't hear that they've given there heart and soul to the Lord. But who am I to draw a verdict. Everything on this earth will be nothing someday. Trust in Jesus alone, read the scriptures. And guide your sins, wear your cross and try your best not to sin. Love your neighbour as yourself, that's all you can do. Pray for yourself and your friends, grace and mercy is all we can pray and ask for. Stay strong brother, dont let people guide you on a wrong path. You'll only be saved by our Lord through Jesus. And not your friends! Gods bless brother ♥️
@@cameronmcglynn836 2 Timothy 4:3-4 ESV For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. Your friends could possibly being seeing that your beliefs don’t line up with doctrine and are calling you out for it so that you might understand the truth about this matter. Now how they go about doing it is another thing. It should be done with love.
Being baptized in the HOLY SPIRIT is receiving the WORD from GOD HIMSELF, through the HOLY SPIRIT to your spirit! Receiving the GOSPEL OF CHRIST! TRUTH!
I think you need to do some research in the book of acts & of what was the sign that believers were filled or Baptised with the Holy Spirit. It has not changed. The gifts have no ceased
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Receiving the Holy Spirit and salvation is a separate event. This is a second blessing. This is God's power poured upon you. When it happened to me I was able to perform a physical miracle with God's power. It's life changing
Oh wow! This is the best teaching on baptism or filling of the Holy Spirit the I have ever heard!!! Seeking fresh baptisms is also something that I've never heard preached before ❤
That's the part of this talk that I don't agree with because there are no instructions to seek more baptisms in the HS. Not one. So Piper creates confusion by not understanding the difference between being filled with the HS and the baptism in or with the HS. As he rightly says at one point, many times we can be filled with the HS.
Ño one can deny the Baptism in the Holy Spirit if they have experienced it themselves, I' m here to tell you it is real, Not a feeling, but true experience It's truly a gift from God to those that live holy, clean christian lives that have a heart for God dedicated totally to Him.❤
It is given and poured out upon an individual by Jesus. We can't command it to happen. It happened to me at a time I was not prepared for but I know what it was. Roughly 30 yrs after accepting the Lord as Savior.
I go to a missions college called Bethany Global University. Pray for us to come to know the Lord intimately and be compelled by His love to go to the ends of the world.
I was always taught "to get into heaven you need to be baptized" I went to a seventh day Adventist Church my whole life and ever since I started teaching myself the Bible and reading more rather than listening to the church, I learn a lot more things
@@pastor_kevin Exodus 21 is as much the word of God then any. It doesn't need defence. We are not obeying those laws anymore because of the liberal agenda, and now he has thrown this pandemic our way because of it.
@@2ndPigeon Uhm no because Jesus brought the new covenant and He fulfilled the law. That’s why we don’t sacrifice lambs anymore - Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice once for all
I had been in the Mormon church a few years, previously a nominal Christian believer in the methodist church as a child and baptised at 16 into mormonism. After about 10 years later and married with children I was drawn to reading my bible more and egan to have doubts about mormon teaching. I went to hear an ex mormon preacher from Utah, Einar Anderson in a local Methodist church. He pointed out several scriptures and explained things to me. One evening as I was praying on my knees I was reading where Paul asked the believers had They received the Holy Spirit since They believe, They answered No, so he laid hands on them and the received the Holy Spirit. As I was reading this the power of God came down on me as I lay on the floor and I was filled with what I'd describe as being embalmed in an orgasam of shall
One morning I got up reborn and with a new life force and a view of myself and the world around me. The Holy Spirit descended on me after 1 week of sincere search for Jesus Christ, after years of madness with new age deception. 🙌🙏
AMEN! PRAISE BE TO GOD, THE HOLY TRINITY! One day, out of the blue, I understood completely how much God loves and cherishes me as I am. So I invited him to fill my heart with His Love and Heavenly Peace overflowing. I felt his love surround me like a warm comforting blanket. I no longer worry about what anyone thinks of me. Whether they like me or not. Care about me or not. Knowing Jesus loves me by dying on the cross to save me from hell is more than enough for me! Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful (humbled and his disciples of peace). Colossians 3:15 NIV My heart is filled with so much of his heavenly peace that it overflows with heavenly love. I feel so loved and cherished. NO ONE AND NOTHING CAN EVER HURT ME AGAIN! Now, I am at peace with everything and everyone in my life. I can even forgive and bless my enemies! If you haven't already, I encourage you to invite him! He is knocking at the door of your heart waiting for you to open it so he can embrace you with Heavenly Love! JESUS SAID keep your mind on him and he will keep you in perfect heavenly peace. NO ONE AND NOTHING WILL HARM YOU WHEN HE'S IN YOUR HEART.🤗😌🙏
I am not sure this is very clear. Sure there are times of empowerment by the Holy Spirit but still too much emphasis is put on feelings and physical experiences. Too many Christians and deceived unbelievers seek these because Jesus is not enough for the carnal mindset. The best and most clear supernatural effect of the Holy spirit is a life of holiness and righteousness. (not that it is necessarily perfect)
The Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth, God's truth. The Holy Spirit is a title, given to a person that receives the spirit of truth. Jesus said, I will ask the father and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever, the spirit of truth, but when he, the spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. I tell you the truth, it is good for you that I go away, cause if i do not go, he will not come, but if I do go, I will send him to you. This is someone else other then Jesus coming. Who will be with us forever, and will guide us into all truth. The father and son will come into him and make him there home. This is the Holy Spirit, when he receives the spirit of truth.
@@matasaina2011 The Holy Spirit very seldom impacts my feelings, but He does prompt me to fear God, to be thankful and to praise. He most definitely impacts my understanding of the Word and my obedience. My feelings and emotions almost always get in the way of trusting God and believing His word. (Thanks for your gracious reply, most people on UA-cam only want to argue and debate)
Like John said it’s about “Christ exalting ministry” it’s not about feelings but fruit. We might “feel” the spirit working but that’s not the emphasis of what John is talking about. If we don’t end up loving people more, preaching the gospel more, repenting, and etc.. then we need to gain a better understanding of what it means to be filled with the spirit.
Thank you Pastor John for breaking down this question so eloquently. You just gave me a revelation and new understanding of the Holy Spirit. My church but such an emphasis on solely the experience (Speak in Tongues) that I hindered myself from speaking in tongues and thought I wasn’t saved without it. Seeing people run, faint, etc terrified me. I did eventually speak in tongues without the fainting, running etc. It’s easy for us to think our “filling” will be similar to others, but I’m a living witness that you can experince a different type of filling.
The Spirit 1.Convicts us of sin 2.Testifies the scriptures are true in proclaiming Jesus Christ as the Son of god and only salvation After that perhaps it can be different for people but those two are essential to know what Spirit it is. You must know Gods WOrd to know Him.
lol you werent saved when you didnt speak in tongues Mark 16:16-18 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
Such a clarifying and biblically accurate answer! It makes me want to meditate upon God's Word even more and more... All answers are in there! If we strive to look for them sincerely and diligently, the Holy Spirit will surely help us. Thank you once more for sharing what God has given you, pr. John, and Desiring God team. My desire is to be thus used by Him too, in order to bring people to light, to the knowledge of truth. May God keep blessing you all greatly!
I think for me its more about the Holy Spirit leading me to love others, enemies, my family and led to kill sin and live pleasing to God in His sight more than to speak in a tongue or try to experience something.... Hopefully that makes sense
@@thetruthwithproof8802 Google the "Got Questions" website, or download the app. It's pretty good at giving clear answers to virtually every question relating to God and the Bible etc. They explain it biblically much better than many people can. It shouldn't be too difficult for you judging by the content you've watched on your own UA-cam channel. Don't forget that ultimately our definitive understanding of Holy Spirit has to come from scripture. If you are actually 11 years old, then you're asking the right questions. 👍
THE TRUTH WITH PROOF yes! Repent of your sin, turn to Jesus Christ for forgiveness. Believe He is the Son of God who died for your sins, and was raised from the dead, so we can have life. Submit to Him as Lord of your life, and you will be born again! Made new. The Holy Spirit (the Spirit of God) will come and live in you to give you eternal life. It’s that simple - and do you have access to a Bible? That is God’s life-giving Word for your life. May Christ bless you richly with faith!
THE TRUTH WITH PROOF The Holy Spirit is every thought that you will ever have. Any thought that hinders or disturbs the mind is a lying spirit. I envy you because your mind is fresh and full of inquiries. I let mine run wild for many years so now I have to learn to be like you!
God bless U pastor John. This is a very balanced and metered presentation. Our God is a living God that we can experience daily. I believe any christian who is not experiencing the Holy Spirit is missing the taste of following Jesus
You will know when it happens. And you will NEVER be the same again. I wasn’t saved when it happened to me and I had no idea what it meant to be born again of the Holy Spirit. I went to church and was baptized as soon as possible and am still being filled with the Spirit. Glory be to Jesus Christ!
Same. It's wasn't about just speaking in tongues or being engulfed in the power of God, the greatest thing was an immediate change of life style for God and the things of God. God bless you I hope the Lord has continued to feel
Thankyou Pastor John. I have been praying about speaking in tongues and why I am not able to..and yet I feel the Holy Spirit in me..guiding me..after your teaching, I feel free of this misunderstanding..will continue on this path🙏
I went through this also. What helped me a great deal was learning that two of my favorite teaching pastors do not speak in tongues- Francis Chan and John Piper!!!
Speaking in tongues is speaking in another language to help spread the Word of God, to those around you who don’t speak your language. Not speaking in phrases that no one understands not even the person speaking it… How does that edify the church
Ephesians 1: 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, When you repent and put your trust in Christ and his finished work on the cross you will be sealed with the Holy spirit as scripture states. God Bless-Nick
@@darthjedi99 you fool, im speaking of the signs of salvation. not a sign frm the heavens. read the bible properly before you try to correct someone else Proverbs 29:20 Do you see someone who speaks in haste? There is more hope for a fool than for them. jam 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.
@@tomtemple69 Mark 16:16-18 New International Version 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.” 2 Peter 3:16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Amen, Pastor! In Acts 1, Jesus said Promise Of The Father, and the fulfillment of Pentecost. He has come to fulfill the law and the prophets. Everything in the Old Testament is a shadow of things to come. Lot of people and churches miss this part.
If a person speaks in "tongues" which is not a known tongue, it is not the manifestation found in Acts chapter 2. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to those in the New Covenant. (Jeremiah 31:31-34) Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. .
Based on Mark 1:8, and Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-17, the most important thing about the word "baptism" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. This fact is confirmed by Romans 8:9, and 1 Corinthians 3:16, and Ephesians 1:13. In John 3 Christ revealed that nobody enters the kingdom of God without being "born-again" of the Spirit of God. The only baptism that is important for salvation cannot be performed by a man. It comes upon hearing, and believing, and is performed by Christ.
Unto what then were you baptised in? Unto Johns baptism for repentance. Then he commanded them to be baptized in the Name of Jesus. We are to be born of WATER and SPIRIT...water is liquid. Its not the water that cleanse us, not the putting away of the filth of the flesh but of a good conscience towards God.
This video and also the comments have helped me in my understanding of this topic. I live in such a state spiritual blindness, it brings me so much pain that I don't have truly holy people around to talk scripture with. There are a few people that I do know that are so dogmatic as to be down right difficult to communicate with, so I don't, it is their way and no other. My wife's church is that way. I know in my heart what the baptism of the Holy Spirit means, I just am not able to put it together scripturally or verbally. They often use Acts 2:38. After sunday worship they have their ushers go and round up any new comers, usher them to the front, the pastor says a few words to them and asks if they believe in Jesus, they usually say yes. He then proceeds to invite them to b baptised and filled with the Holy Spirit. This is a church with a multi national following and is pretty large in size. Their error runs so deep on so many christian beliefs. Please pray for them, and me.
I was baptized by the holy spirit a week before easter and it was 100% real felt similar too how it is after an intense acid trip or ahyuasca session but all i did was ball like a baby for my sins and his love for me.. very profoud change im so thankful!!!!
Paul differentiated between the Baptism of belief and repentance by John the Baptist and the Holy Spirit in Acts 19:2 when he came upon the new disciples of Ephesus. He asked them if they received the Holy Ghost when they believed. They were believers but didn’t even know of the Holy Spirit as they were only baptized by water. They were then baptized in Jesus name when Paul explained they should believe on him “Jesus” who came after John the Baptist so they then became Baptized in Jesus name. Then he laid his hands on them and the Holy Spirit came upon them followed by speaking in tongues and prophecy. It was obviously important to Paul to inquire of these believers of the Holy Spirit baptism and then make sure they experienced it. I still struggle with this after reading 1st Corinthians 13-14 and all that Paul dealt with in that church. They were getting carried away with the use of speaking in tongues. My church encourages this but does not strictly adhere to Paul’s instructions during church service and interpretation, prophecy, etc. I’m still praying that God will help me understand this better.
Hi! Hope this helps ^_^. Sorry for the long message. Does the Baptism with the Holy Spirit still exist today? Ephesians 4:4-6: There is one baptism - which one? (Written about 60-62 A.D.). There are three options: John's baptism - Passed when the new covenant began. (Acts 19:1-5) The Baptism with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2 and Acts 10) - is no longer present as it was a prophecy/promise that has been fulfilled. It was never a general command for all Christians. Baptism with water in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins to receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Jesus commanded this baptism. (Matthew 28:18-20) This baptism is recorded all the way through the book of Acts and the Epistles. In fact, Peter was present for all the baptisms: John's baptism, both accounts of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and preached water baptism in the name of Jesus in Acts 2 (33 A.D.) and in 1 Peter 3:18-21 (written around 64 A.D.), well after all the events of the book of Acts. It had to be the one baptism of Ephesians 4:4-6 as it was the only one practiced by 60-62 A.D. when Ephesians was written. The miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit (next lesson) Received by the apostles' laying on of hands No longer present today
General Observations Apostles were able to pass on the gifts because they were apostles. The Apostles possessed the ability to perform miracles even during the ministry of Christ (Luke 9:1). This ability to pass and perform the gifts was not given at Pentecost. 1 Corinthians 12 and 14 are not the directives on how to receive tongues (the church there had already received them), but rather the correctives on how to use them because everyone was speaking at the same time and misusing the tongues. 1 Corinthians 12:28-30 shows that tongues as a gift were not given to everyone in the church. Thus the concept of a "Pentecostal church" (every member speaking in tongues) is contrary to Scripture. 1 Corinthians 13:8-10: "Perfection" here could not mean the coming of Christ because it is in the neuter gender in Greek, not the masculine gender. When perfection comes probably refers to the canonization of the Bible some time after the first century. At that time, all the miraculous gifts would be gone because all the apostles and those to whom they passed the gifts would have died. The purpose of the miraculous gifts from 1 Corinthians 14:20-22: To get non-believers to believe (tongues were only to be used to bring non-believers to faith). To edify the Christians and strengthen their faith. Now the Bible fulfills these needs - thus the church today does not need apostles or miraculous gifts. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 shows that there can be miracles by Satan today. Satan's purpose is to deceive people about the truth, so they will not be saved. Speaking in "tongues" is common in many religions (Mormon, Catholic, Islam, etc.), because religion gets dried and staid. These are also called "ecstatic utterances" - non-understandable sounds and fragments of speech. A person can be filled with the Spirit without speaking in tongues (Ephesians 5:18-20). Jesus never spoke in tongues and he was accorded the full-measure of the Spirit (John 3:34-36).
the lost adventurer we all fall short of the glory of God, we all fail in one way or another. Repent and leave the sin behind, as Jesus told the adulterous woman in the New Testament, he forgave her and told her to go and sin no more.
I will pray for you ! Confess your sins and repent and forsake your sinful lifestyle. Remember , Submit yourself to God . Resist the devil, and he will flee from you . Always use the Scriptures to defeat temptations and always pray to the Holy Spirit to guide you and walk with you so you would not satisfy the lustful desires of the flesh. If you have any questions or prayer requests feel free to message me. Peace be with you and God bless !
I'm afraid no one falls into any sin. Please read the book of James. But each when tempted by his own desire, is led away by it, into sin. To sin against God is a conscious act of the will. It's part of what makes it so outrageous. Look carefully at yourself, whatever your particular sin is, recognising your guilt and inability to be holy on your own, as the rest of us. Repenting from sin must be done consciously with a desire to turn your heart to God for salvation and for satisfaction. Or else you will return to sin.
Don't worry... if you don't want to speak in tongues, you never will. I had this experience when I was a new believer and didn't know what I was being prayed for because if this was from God, I wanted everything He had for me. I believe total surrender is the key.
As long as Christianity lasts, this sort of question will always follow especially among Christendom. Pastor John is compassionately explaining systematically of (for example) Jesus' definition, Luke's definition and and Paul's of Spirit's baptism. And they all agree with different terminology. For me, I never worry about being baptized with the Holy Spirit since it's the same with being born again. I agree with Pastor that Holy Spirit's baptism is an act by which the Holy Spirit unites believers with Christ. This union with Christ occurs at the moment of being born again because regeneration cannot happen without the work of the Holy Spirit in uniting us with our Lord Jesus Christ. Honestly, I don't agree with those who say Spirit's baptism is necessary after being born again because I couldn't relate this teaching with Biblical teaching but this doesn't mean I don't agree with the teaching about the need of Spirit's empowerment in witnessing the Gospel of Christ.
Yes this video has the clear message on the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. We all need experiencial knowledge of the working of the Holy Spirit. It is very obvious that when we surrender more to the LORD, we experience more of Him in our lives. Through Christ the Holy Spirit brings us to the revelation of Christ, and the Father. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is empowering as this brother says, and also reveals to us the wonder of the Tri-une God Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The more we give to God of ourselves the more we receive from the Lord who has that Abundant life already in us when we are born again. I am not ashamed of experiencing the speaking in tongues, I will not argue its purpose with anyone. ALL I know is that the Tongues in my prayer life are so advantageous.
I only hope that all who question about the baptism of the Holy Spirit, only seek and receive the experience that changes them including opening their eyes of their hearts to see the truth about this. Unfortunately many are just satisfied with theological answers not-pressing on to the life changing infused life in the Holy Spirit. Going to the right assembly of believers makes a difference.
"38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts: 2:38 KJV
The only thing that ever gets in our way. Is our carnal nature to exercise our free will. If we stay in him focused on him all times we can and mostly are emerged in the holy spirit. But when we walk outside of him we loose that anointing. And we know we must get back into focus. Anytime we are not emerged we are separated and must seek him and get back to him. That's how we live in his will and not our own not thru our own understanding but thru his. Will. We are then one with him in him. And that's why we need to stay focused on him all times.
Many Christians like Billy Graham, Hudson Taylor and John Sung did not have specific baptism of Holy Spirit moments in their lives except the indwelling of the Holy Spirit at the moment of conversion. They were filled by the Holy Spirit to evangelise and many people were saved. My view is keep confessing our sins the moment we are aware of them and the Holy Spirit will be able to work through us powerfully.
Thankyou Pastor John I am come from pentecostal denomination and I have gone through treasuring experience (which I don't want to forget in my life long because whenever I have a doubt or unsolved question I can look back to those experience) in so called pentecostal meeting. But same time as I am growing in word of God I find some practice of pentecostal are extreme which not even in Bible . So sometime I got confused whether to deny all the experience of pentecostalism or to embrace. Any way thankyou for helping us specially those who are from our denomination. We need more correction in our denomination. We will be glad if you could lovingly teach us biblical teaching. Love and prayer to you.
I grew up in a Pentecostal denomination as well. And I have noticed some things they teach not according to scripture. But I do very much like their emphasis on strong prayer and living in Holiness. About experiences... I don't think it's good to always try to seek experiences, for we live by faith and truth not by sight. We must submit to truth and trust the truth of God's word more than our experience. Some false teachings like Mormonism say they experience God by reading the book of Mormon (and by that they find it to be truth)but the book of Mormon contradicts God and his revealed truth in the Bible. But also experiences are good as I have felt great joy, love, and repentance at times in deep prayer and Bible study. As long as that experience drives you closer to his written word and knowing Christ they're good. I suggest you study 1 Cor 12-14. I have noticed that Pentecostals have an over emphasize on the spiritual gifts (like during prayer service everyone will speak in tongues out loud without an interpreter(1 Cor 14:26-28). The Bible doesn't teach that the gifts have ceased but we need a balanced view of them and be biblical in how we use them.
This sounds very similar to what happens during my daily time in the Word and prayer. Or am I wrong in my interpretation? I remember a warmth and feeling of overwhelming love when I became born again but many times during by quiet times I experience overwhelming presence of Christ in my prayer times or times in the word or when telling others about Christ. I’ve never known this as anything other than the presence of God, are you saying this could be baptism in the spirit? I’m just trying to understand, thank you.
I had this when I was born again. Baptism in the Holy Spirit is different. Gives you power and strength, sort of on the inside. That was not there before I was baptised in HS. Check out The Last Reformation " The Life" documentary film by TLR and other short videos on youtube.☺
The Holy Spirit is always with you from the moment you are born again, you will sence Him, you know that He is there if the fruits of the Holy Spirit are there (joy , pace, love, kindness, patience...) . The baptism is something more...it gives you boldness to say to everyone about Jesus, you don't care anymore of what the people think about you. It gives you strength to surpass, endure everything, even torture. Think like that: the first, is His presence in a small quantity, the second (the baptism) is a total fullness.
One morning I got up reborn and with a new life force and a view of myself and the world around me. The Holy Spirit descended on me after 1 week of sincere search for Jesus Christ, after years of madness with new age deception. 🙌🙏
@@ChristisSaviour Paul fell the need to empathize the one baptism in Ephisian written aroud 60 to 62 AD because people were confusing the 3 baptism mentioned in Acts. 1.John's baptism - Passed when the new covenant began. (Acts 19:1-5) 2.The Baptism with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2 and Acts 10) - is no longer present as it was a prophecy/promise that has been fulfilled. It was never a general command for all Christians. 3.Baptism with water in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins to receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Jesus commanded this baptism. (Matthew 28:18-20) This baptism is recorded all the way through the book of Acts and the Epistles. In fact, Peter was present for all the baptisms: John's baptism, both accounts of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and preached water baptism in the name of Jesus in Acts 2 (33 A.D.) and in 1 Peter 3:18-21 (written around 64 A.D.), well after all the events of the book of Acts. It had to be the one baptism of Ephesians 4:4-6 as it was the only one practiced by 60-62 A.D. when Ephesians was written.
Acts 2:4 KJVS [4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Acts 19:6 KJVS [6] And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. Romans 8:13-17 KJVS [13] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. [14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. [15] For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. [16] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: [17] And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. www.justifiedfreely.com/?p=785
Mr. C No, no fire above my head but I did get the fiery trial. 1 Peter 4:12-13 KJV [12] Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: [13] But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
I know that there were 2 very distinct feelings between getting baptized by water and baptism by the Spirit. Being baptized by water made me feel like I had a clean slate to start over, and being baptized by the Spirit made me feel like the walls between us were broken down and I was standing next to God. Metaphorically speaking, water baptism felt like adoption papers were signed and Spirit baptism felt like family bonding. Now, yes I did have some Christians with charismatic backgrounds lay hands on me to pray for that baptism and to pray in tongues. But nobody fell and convulsed on the ground. In fact, biblically speaking there was only one kind of event where people fell and convulsed- exorcism of demons by Jesus.
Good description..we initially have to ask God for the baptism.. The scripture that says the Father wouldn't give His child a stone or serpent is to comfort those who fear the experience is demonic (as many say about tongues)
The Holy Spirit give you power to be bold and let me warn you don't ever try to rebuke a demon without being filled with the baptism of the Holy Spirit he will laugh in your face
Brother, see it as this. You're ruining the vessle that God gave you. You should take care of the body you've been given. 1 Cor 6:19-20 Gods bless and stay strong ♥️
1 Corinthians 12:13 [13]For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. This is a baptism BY the Spirit into the body of Christ. Acts 1:5 [5]For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. This is a baptism WITH or OF the Holy Spirit which is done by Jesus Christ. Matthew 3:11 [11]I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: As you can see these are 2 separate experiences. They can and should happen together when we preach the true Gopel as Peter preached in Acts 2 Acts 2:38 [38]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Hope this helps clarify things 😊 Be blessed all 🙌
I agree they are two different experiences. When I was baptized by water I didn’t fully understand what I was doing. I knew that it was for my sins to be forgiven, but I didn’t even know that repentance meant changing your mind. I just felt led to be baptized. I feel the Holy Spirit’s presence around me, but I don’t feel it truly dwelling within me. I think there’s a difference between being baptized with water and having the spirit Indwell within you. I believe the baptism of the Holy Spirit may come when you have great faith in Jesus and the Gospel, possibly more understanding. This may also be why the western church isn’t walking in the power of the Spirit as the disciples did. I think a lot of people like myself found faith in Jesus but weren’t trained or taught much afterwards, whether they went back to the world or just didn’t have good teachers to disciple them. I think it’s a topic more people should be talking about. We would probably see more power in our churches if we earnestly sought the Holy Spirit. (Not to take place of Jesus of course, but it’s His spirit that we need to live, and I think many of us don’t truly have it yet.)
@@CreatingWithTheCreator Amen! 🙏 I also agree with you. We need more discussion and teaching on these matters because they are and will be life for the believer 🙌 Be blessed my sister in Christ 😇
Totally agree with you all, but experience is different, by the Grace and Power of our Lord I feel and see that I have been baptized into Christ my Lord and he is freely given me the gift of the HS, I now am a new creation in Christ walking with him in the Power of his might, shining for his Glorious Light.. I am now living in his Truth like he said in John 4:23_24 that God seeks those who worship him in Spirit and Truth, I'm forever greatful to walk with my Lord daily by trusting in him. Newness of life. My Past is history and my future in Christ is my Victory through his spirit in me. Love him forevermore. The thing that I'm really greatful about is I now understand the true meaning of baptism in the HS makes a person be born again, why John said I baptize with water, but he Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit and fire.. and he did that for me. Since I've never been baptized at all, just a sprinkle when I was a baby and I knew that wasnt right. But now I know that we don't have to baptized by water, because when we give our whole hearts to Jesus and accept him, trust in him to lead us, he will baptize us in his name and the gift us with the HS. Happy Seventh day Sabbath (Saturday) to yous all my brothers and sisters in Christ. Peace Shalom
What you need to know is to Expand your knowledge of God , then you will have all the motivation for your Christian Life ! All True Christians or baptized with the Holy Spirit and conversion
I think the issue is not whether one is empowered by the Spirit again and again. Most believers would agree with that. But the issue is whether the dwelling of the Spirit resides in the believers when they have a conversion experience. Often I heard from Pentecostal pastors, although one is a believer, the Holy Spirit does not dwell in them, or does any work in them. That happens only after the baptism of the Spirit.
the power brings salvation. its not separate 2 Corinthians 1:22 set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
In Eph 5:18Paul seems to follow the Lukan meaning: “Do not get drunk on wine…, Instead go on [repeatedly in Gk construction] being filled with the Spirit…”
With all due respect, if the day of pentecost was necessary, and the Baptism "with" the Holy Spirit was a second baptism then, that pattern does not change. There are three Baptisms. And Pastor John, if you dont believe in speaking in tongues, that's okay. But dont Blaspheme it and call it "unusual". I can give you scriptures that supports speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of the Baptism "with" the Holy Spirit. The lack of power in the churches is their reliance on their power and not the power of the Holy Spirit! Stay Blessed!
Paul said not all people are given the gift of tongues. It is the Holy Spirit who determines what gifts to give to believers. I know of many godly people who don’t speak in tongues but whose lives are being lived for God. Tongues is not the evidence of being baptized in the Holy Spirit.
This is very on point! Martyn Lloyd-Jones is more detailed and explicit, but in essence this is the very truth on the baptism of the Holy Spirit! Ofc people tend to take everything to extremes because that's the human he likes extremes... And I know that charismatics brought this even to heresy and weird external manifestations that is NOT of three Holy Spirit! But you can't eliminate that part from the Bible just because you saw people distorting something from the Bible...
How to practice and live the Holy Spirit's Fruits Follow, live and practice the Holy Spirit's Fruits DAILY on yourselves and others until you become like the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit's fruits are . . . (I have expounded on the scripture) - unconditional love in your heart and soul, - heavenly peace in your heart and soul, peacefulness - a blind trusting faith the Lord will provide - hope always in Jesus - endurance, temperance - extraordinary patience - having a joyous spirit in all circumstances and situations good or bad - gentleness with yourself and others - grace - kindness with yourself and others - mercy - self control over carnal desires and the flesh - resilience when facing temptations Galatians 5:22-23 The Holy Bible is your map and a lamp in the darkness lighten your path so you do not stumble and fall. When you become the Holy Spiritual Fruits you are divinely guided, directed and protected. You feel loved and cherished. Amazing LOVE!😌🙏
Quote from Billy Graham’s book on the Holy Spirit:- “I simply cannot find any biblical reason for saying that tongues is a gift God desires to give all believers. Some may be given the gift, while many others will not be given it. It would be wrong for someone who has not been given this gift of tongues to feel somehow they are a “Second Rate” Christian, or earnestly covet this gift if God has not seen fit to give it to them. It would be equally wrong for someone who has this gift to try to compel others to have it, or to teach that everyone must experience it. In fact, millions of spiritually mature Christians have never spoken in tongues, and many who have spoken in tongues are not spiritually mature”
The Holy Spirit had not yet been sent. I always thought the ‘secondary baptism of the Holy Spirit’ was for those who had been converted prior to Him being sent. Does the bible speak of baptism of the Holy Spirit occurring for those who were converted after His arrival (Pentecost)?
Hi! Taking away from Acts, Ephisian, and 1 Peter Does the Baptism with the Holy Spirit still exist today? Ephesians 4:4-6: There is one baptism - which one? (Written about 60-62 A.D.). There are three options: John's baptism - Passed when the new covenant began. (Acts 19:1-5) The Baptism with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2 and Acts 10) - is no longer present as it was a prophecy/promise that has been fulfilled. It was never a general command for all Christians. Baptism with water in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins to receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Jesus commanded this baptism. (Matthew 28:18-20) This baptism is recorded all the way through the book of Acts and the Epistles. In fact, Peter was present for all the baptisms: John's baptism, both accounts of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and preached water baptism in the name of Jesus in Acts 2 (33 A.D.) and in 1 Peter 3:18-21 (written around 64 A.D.), well after all the events of the book of Acts. It had to be the one baptism of Ephesians 4:4-6 as it was the only one practiced by 60-62 A.D. when Ephesians was written. If you want more information I can refer you to more study sources or my church does bible studies in depth on that.
@@Valeska6000 Yes it does, Hebrews 6 states it as Baptisms being plural. Acts 19:6 we have ppl being baptised in Holy Spirit when Paul laid his hands on them Acts 8:17 When Peter laid his hands on the they also received the Holy Spirit. All post Day of Pentecost
Baptism of the Holy Spirit like described in Acts is real, separate from being born of the Spirit, and has never ceased. Anyone who has been baptized in the Spirit knows without a doubt they have because it is overwhelming experience where the Spirit rushes upon you and fills you entire spirit and soul and immediately changes your heart. I experienced it and didn’t know anything about it and wasn’t in a church that even talked about it. I was filled with the holiness and love of Christ and power to proclaim the gospel which I never did before. All my desires and affections and thinking completely changed and wanted Christ to control every part of my life. It was a desperate experience for me but happened only a few months after my conversion. My mind was illuminated and enlightened immediately when it happened. I knew nothing about it but knew what it was immediately because the whole experience matched up with scripture. I could feel the Spirit in me daily and expedited daily overwhelming joy, love, peace, patience, hope, self control, and a love for God’s word that I never had before.
Can you guess who wrote the following? "Nine-tenths, at least, of the church members never think of speaking for Christ. If they see a man, perhaps a near relative, just going right down to ruin, going rapidly, they never think of speaking to him about his sinful course and of seeking to win him to Christ. Now certainly there must be something wrong. And yet when you talk with them you find they have faith, and you can not say they are not children of God; but they have not the power, they have not the liberty, they have not the love that real disciples of Christ should have. A great many people are thinking that we need new measures, that we need new churches, that we need new organs, and that we need new choirs, and all these new things. That is not what the Church of God needs today. It is the old power that the Apostles had; that is what we want, if we have that in our churches, there will be new life. Then we will have new ministers--the same old ministers renewed with power; filled with the Holy Spirit." Dwight L. Moody, in his book "Secret Power", published in 1881 We must confess and repent, turn toward God, and invite the Holy Spirit into us, daily as John Piper suggests.
Great sharing!!! I just started listening to DL Moody's The Overcoming Life via Aneko Press Christian audio books. Amazing that he was so heavily criticized as not being an outstanding orator or worthwhile theologian by "certain standards." So far, I beg to differ...
Firstly, let's get thr terms theologically correct. There is no such thing as the "baptism of the Holy Spirit." The "Of" presumes that the Holy Spirit does the Baptism. John the Baptist promised that Jesus would baptize"with" the Holy Spirit. This correct nomenclature is in concert with the scriptures.
Having grown up in Apostolic and Pentecostal churches....speaking in tongues, taking flight and running laps inside the churches, shouting and rejoices, falling out (the way that this host explains in the beginning) is ALL normal to me. Members experiencing these acts are interacting with the Holy Spirit. Each member of the church will have his/her OWN experience. There is NO RIGHT or WRONG way to experience the Holy Spirit. So, I don't know why he (the host) states that it makes him uncomfortable. 😏
Everything takes time! It can apparently take 21 days to make or break a habit! After being stuck in any lie and who wasn't, perfection doesn't come overnight! It's a process!
I appreciate pipers honesty and boldness in approaching every issue which most pastors won’t touch! But I’m sorely disappointed in this episode, he never actually addresses wether someone being laid out cold passed out, is empowering that person to then evangelize! I agree with his interpretation of the text but how that’s manifested he didn’t dare address! And that was the actual question! Of it makes a Christian uncomfortable then please point out proof afterwards how it was the work of the Holy Spirit
Wait, so I was always taught that when the disciples got the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, that this is when they received the Holy Spirit for life, like that they are now SEALED with the Holy Spirit. Just to make sure I am understanding Mr. Piper, does he mean that this is not that moment? But that they were actually sealed with the Holy Spirit before Pentecost? I understand that they are already saved/converted before Pentecost. Can anyone confirm if my thoughts are correct? (P.S. -> I'm not asking if you think Mr. Piper is right or not. I just want to make sure I am understanding his viewpoint. I know that there are some other theological implications with my questions.)
John I don’t often disagree with your exegesis but we are only baptised with the Holy Spirit once at conversion,however we ought to be filled with the Spirit and this may be our privilege as we submit to the Lordship of Christ
DR ALLAN MANDELL, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EDUCATIONAL AND HEALTH PROMOTING VIDROS. I BENEFITTED PLENTY FROM THEM. BUT I MISSED ONE VUDEO CONCERNING HOW TO CLEAR SINUS AND THE TRIGEMINAL POINTS. I WOULD APPRECIATE TO HAVE IT REPEATED. KINDLY TEACH ME HOWCTO RETRIEVE THIS SAME VIDEO.
One way to see the difference between being baptized into the body of Christ and being baptized with the Spirit by Jesus. In one case the Spirit is the baptizer and in the other case Jesus is the baptizer.
When the Pentecostal experience came in to the other denominations decades ago it was the teaching that one required the Baptism of the Holy Spirit as a second blessing. It was the way to receive power and supernatural gifts. However, charismatics outside the Pentecostal church learned not to say that openly because they were essentially claiming to be on a higher spiritual plane. I notice nowadays that the debate between say Phil Johnson and charismatics tends only to be about the gifts such as tongues, prophecy etc. But not the second blessing teaching. At least with the Pentecostal teaching of a two stage (as it were) conversion experience the teaching is clear. Note the subtlety of Mr Piper’ s teaching in that of course we all need to be vigilant in seeking to be filled with the Spirit by obedience to the Word, but this doesn’t mean a second experience of manifestations. The inference of Mr Piper’s teaching is that a second blessing to receive power and manifestations is necessary.
My understanding; baptism of the holy spirit and being filled with the holy spirit are not the same thing. Baptism, is the receiving of the holy spirit....or being born of the spirit. It's a second birth. Spiritual birth. It is being added to the body of Christ (to the church). Only someone baptized with the holy spirit can be filled with the holy spirit. Which is an empowerment for a specific service.
I was at a meeting and the question was If anyone can know when they are going to die, would you want to you. Everyone said no except me, i would want to know to get my house in 😊order. So our group lost 3 of the memb🎉erers died, it started to bother me. I was cleaning the dishes everything was quite and I heard a very light voice and said 85 but I couldn’t here it that clear. One week later doing the same thing I heard it again very clearly 85. Was that the HolySpirit.
If the German man who asked the question feels uncomfortable in this church, perhaps find a church you feel happy to go to....I would feel uncomfortable too, no where in the bible do people writhe around when given the Holy Spirit...speaking in tongues isn’t about talking gibberish, God gave the gift of speaking different languages, so that his word could be spread to those who didn’t speak Paul’s native tongue.
There is some crazy stuff people do and say it is the Holy Spirit. But don't let that keep you from the truth. Acts teaches us that when we receive the Holy Spirit we will speak in tongues. 1 Corinthians teaches us how the Holy Spirit is to be expressed in the Church. The Corinth Church were over enthusiastic with tongues. We are also instructed to pray in tongues and in our own normal language. To pray in the Spirit is to pray in tongues. It is no more complicated than that but very powerful. In church, Paul tells us for two or three to speak out in tongues with interpretation each time, the two or three prophesies. I only know of one church that does that.
Baptism of Holy Spirit is different experience than being born again. That happens after you have been born again. Baptism of the Holy Spirit is enpowerment, receiving power, to serve God and be a witness live holy God honoring life by the power of Holy Spirit. Usually marked by speaking in tongues, if the person has fruit of the Spirit (love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control ) visible in his life. If not then speaking in tongues doesn't mean anything in this person's life without the fruit of Spirit. Jesus didn't say by their gifts you shall know them, but by their fruits. I am pentacostal, but sometimes people who speak in tongues don't have such visible fruit of Spirit in their life as some who don't.
Stephen Hunt what are you even saying?! I’m saying people who don’t have the Holy Spirit probably fake speaking in tongues. I never in my whole life witnessed this and I don’t believe you need to do this to have the Holy Spirit. Hey I’ll watch that when I can 🙏 when the apostles spoke in tongues in acts .... it was the Language of each of the people standing around. So all the foreigners understood The gospel! Ultimately is was a way to expand the message of the cross
Stephen Hunt No, you don't have to speak in tongues if you receive the Holy Spirit. God gives different spiritual gifts to different believers so that we will be able to bless and edify one another. As Paul explained to the Corinthians: 1 Corinthians 12:4, "Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons. But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues. But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills." The Spirit of God decides what gifts He will give to each believer according to His own will and purpose. The gift of tongues is listed here right alongside the other gifts as something that one believer has and another does not. Paul goes on to explain that it is God's purpose that we all have different gifts so that we need one another and function together like the many members of one body. He says, for example: 1 Corinthians 12:17-21, "If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole were hearing, where would the sense of smell be? But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired. If they were all one member, where would the body be? But now there are many members, but one body. And the eye cannot say to the hand, 'I have no need of you'; or again the head to the feet, 'I have no need of you.'" In this context, Paul plainly says: 1 Corinthians 12:30, "All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they?" It is clear that many Christians have the Spirit and have been given gifts by the Spirit, but God has chosen not to give them the gift of tongues. In fact, Paul's logic here seems to assume that the majority of believers did not have the gift of tongues, just as the majority of the body could not be eyes, hands, or knees. Any Spiritual gift is only given to some believers for the sake of edifying all and bringing us together in local church communities.
Stephen Hunt I’m not going to argue this with you. My whole point is that people don’t need to speak in tongues to be saved. I truly believe that. Also, your being about religion now “non-pentecostal” people?? So do us non-Pentecost’s need to dance with snakes too? How do you know for certain each person speaking in tongues is not faking receiving the Holy Ghost? What are tongues even? Is it a language you don’t usually speak i.e French, Spanish, Chinese or is it sounds that make up a fake language? I guess if YHWH wants to fill me with the ruach hakodesh..I will know when that day happens.
Stephen Hunt sorry for being snappy but yes each persons walk with God to salvation is different and I don’t believe it’s scriptural that you have to speak in tongues to be saved. Shabot Shaolm. ♥️
No not so all. If you trust in Jesus and have repented you are saved! That’s it! You don’t even need to be water baptized to be saved. Jesus wants you to be baptized to show your dedication to him but if your believe in your heart and confess with your mouth Jesus Christ is Lord you are saved. “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
Shane Fu Thank you for replying I thought I was saved but then I backslidden I am giving my life to Jesus now but it’s got me questioning if I was ever saved and wondering if I am saved now I believe Jesus blood is enough to cover all my sins I’m just questioning if it is covering my sins
@@godsgreat2145 It seems that you lack assurance of your salvation. Our position in Chrisr should never be based on our feelings but on the Word of God. God’s Word says that your sins will be forgiven and will not be counted against you if you repent and believe. What is the general direction of your heart? Do you desire to follow God? If yes, that means that the Holy Spirit is in you. Do you grieve over your sin? If yes, then you are a child of God because one of the works of the Holy Spirit is He convicts a person of his/her sin.
Read 1 John all chapters. That book talks of the marks of true believers. Especially 1 John 5:16 - I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
The most powerful filling of the Holy Spirit came to me after praying for months to be healed of an addiction I had since I was a teenager. This sin would invade my relationship with God and I'd quit mostly under my own power through prayer and repentance and after very intense honesty with God about my personal limitations and that I needed his divine intervention to get rid of my lustful desires because I knew that I could not stop on my own. At that point God laid me out. FLAT on my back. I felt the most blissful filling of this warm flow of overwhelming peace that coursed through my body and seemed to run out of the ends of my fingers and toes. My cup literally overflowed. The entire next day I had this intense peace that was with me everywhere I went. I would look at strangers at the supermarket and had this intense love for them that I'd never experienced before. I've tried talking with my church leaders about it because I wanted to make sure that this was a biblical occurrence. I never got a good explanation but I would like to thank you, Pastor John, for your explanation that it is something that can happen more than just once. Thank you also for mentioning your other episodes on this incredible subject that changed my life. I haven't revisited the sin in almost a year now. Praise Jesus!!!
Same here. Only takes 2 months 3-5 prayers daily 1-3 mins each prayer. U see a light with your eyes closed ?
@@Madeviets yeah, there was a red glow emanating from my body
@@ChiodoDragon2 u feel the chest caving immediately after that lasted for an hour after ? U see people differently like u know them ?
@@Madeviets not sure what you mean about the chest caving in.... but afterwards when I looked at strangers I just had an overwhelming love for them
It happened to me already warm feeling with like with air in my body then a sense of peace afterwards!!!!I would not deny the Holy Spirit.
Whenever The Spirit speaks through me, I'm usually humbled. People listen. Afterwards people will tell me that they felt the power of The Spirit speaking thru me. Praise Our Father for such beautiful gifts that glorify Him!
Feelings are extremely subjective, you should judge based on what the Bible says
As a believer in a church that believes in the continuation of the gifts of the Spirit, I appreciate this message. God has blessed me with the gift of speaking in tongues, although it happens usually only during special times when I am seeking Him, or He pours it out on me in His mercy. Notice how Piper doesn't criticize the Pentecostal movement as some reformed teachers have. What a blessing John Piper is to the church today!
My friends recently become Reformed after watching John mcarther and now they claim that im possessed because they have seen and experienced the supernatural but because they don't believe God does that they have stopped being my mates as they think im possessed. They ain't judging by fruits, or works but by the last miracle.
@@cameronmcglynn836 As you're saying here, they've became reformed through a person. I don't hear that they've given there heart and soul to the Lord. But who am I to draw a verdict. Everything on this earth will be nothing someday. Trust in Jesus alone, read the scriptures. And guide your sins, wear your cross and try your best not to sin. Love your neighbour as yourself, that's all you can do. Pray for yourself and your friends, grace and mercy is all we can pray and ask for. Stay strong brother, dont let people guide you on a wrong path. You'll only be saved by our Lord through Jesus. And not your friends! Gods bless brother ♥️
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2 Timothy 4:3-4 ESV
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
Your friends could possibly being seeing that your beliefs don’t line up with doctrine and are calling you out for it so that you might understand the truth about this matter. Now how they go about doing it is another thing. It should be done with love.
the gift and the sign are diff
@@nickmeijer026 the heart symbol is pagan
Being baptized in the HOLY SPIRIT is receiving the WORD from GOD HIMSELF, through the HOLY SPIRIT to your spirit! Receiving the GOSPEL OF CHRIST! TRUTH!
I think you need to do some research in the book of acts & of what was the sign that believers were filled or Baptised with the Holy Spirit. It has not changed. The gifts have no ceased
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Receiving the Holy Spirit and salvation is a separate event. This is a second blessing. This is God's power poured upon you. When it happened to me I was able to perform a physical miracle with God's power. It's life changing
Looks like you haven't read the book of Acts as yet.... enjoy!!!
Oh wow! This is the best teaching on baptism or filling of the Holy Spirit the I have ever heard!!! Seeking fresh baptisms is also something that I've never heard preached before ❤
That's the part of this talk that I don't agree with because there are no instructions to seek more baptisms in the HS. Not one. So Piper creates confusion by not understanding the difference between being filled with the HS and the baptism in or with the HS. As he rightly says at one point, many times we can be filled with the HS.
Ño one can deny the Baptism in the Holy Spirit if they have experienced it themselves, I' m here to tell you it is real, Not a feeling, but true experience It's truly a gift from God to those that live holy, clean christian lives that have a heart for God dedicated totally to Him.❤
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Amen!
yeah, it happens when you get saved, you can not be saved without the Holy Spirit
It is given and poured out upon an individual by Jesus. We can't command it to happen. It happened to me at a time I was not prepared for but I know what it was. Roughly 30 yrs after accepting the Lord as Savior.
I go to a missions college called Bethany Global University. Pray for us to come to know the Lord intimately and be compelled by His love to go to the ends of the world.
I was always taught "to get into heaven you need to be baptized" I went to a seventh day Adventist Church my whole life and ever since I started teaching myself the Bible and reading more rather than listening to the church, I learn a lot more things
Did you get to Exodus 21 yet?
@@2ndPigeon what does that have to do with Adventist? Does it defend their beliefs?
@@pastor_kevin Exodus 21 is as much the word of God then any. It doesn't need defence. We are not obeying those laws anymore because of the liberal agenda, and now he has thrown this pandemic our way because of it.
Find a biblical church ...adventism that is taught by Ellen g white is heretical and she was a false prophet and a plagiarist
@@2ndPigeon Uhm no because Jesus brought the new covenant and He fulfilled the law. That’s why we don’t sacrifice lambs anymore - Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice once for all
I had been in the Mormon church a few years, previously a nominal Christian believer in the methodist church as a child and baptised at 16 into mormonism. After about 10 years later and married with children I was drawn to reading my bible more and egan to have doubts about mormon teaching. I went to hear an ex mormon preacher from Utah, Einar Anderson in a local Methodist church. He pointed out several scriptures and explained things to me. One evening as I was praying on my knees I was reading where Paul asked the believers had They received the Holy Spirit since They believe, They answered No, so he laid hands on them and the received the Holy Spirit. As I was reading this the power of God came down on me as I lay on the floor and I was filled with what I'd describe as being embalmed in an orgasam of shall
One morning I got up reborn and with a new life force and a view of myself and the world around me. The Holy Spirit descended on me after 1 week of sincere search for Jesus Christ, after years of madness with new age deception. 🙌🙏
AMEN! PRAISE BE TO GOD, THE HOLY TRINITY!
One day, out of the blue, I understood completely how much God loves and cherishes me as I am. So I invited him to fill my heart with His Love and Heavenly Peace overflowing.
I felt his love surround me like a warm comforting blanket. I no longer worry about what anyone thinks of me. Whether they like me or not. Care about me or not. Knowing Jesus loves me by dying on the cross to save me from hell is more than enough for me!
Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful (humbled and his disciples of peace). Colossians 3:15 NIV
My heart is filled with so much of his heavenly peace that it overflows with heavenly love. I feel so loved and cherished. NO ONE AND NOTHING CAN EVER HURT ME AGAIN! Now, I am at peace with everything and everyone in my life. I can even forgive and bless my enemies! If you haven't already, I encourage you to invite him! He is knocking at the door of your heart waiting for you to open it so he can embrace you with Heavenly Love! JESUS SAID keep your mind on him and he will keep you in perfect heavenly peace. NO ONE AND NOTHING WILL HARM YOU WHEN HE'S IN YOUR HEART.🤗😌🙏
Thank you Pastor John for teaching about the Baptism of the Holy Spirit for the sake of Jesus Christ. Amen Alleluia. From Jesus and Sylvia Nazareth.
he didnt do a great job of it
I am not sure this is very clear. Sure there are times of empowerment by the Holy Spirit but still too much emphasis is put on feelings and physical experiences. Too many Christians and deceived unbelievers seek these because Jesus is not enough for the carnal mindset. The best and most clear supernatural effect of the Holy spirit is a life of holiness and righteousness. (not that it is necessarily perfect)
The Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth, God's truth.
The Holy Spirit is a title, given to a person that receives the spirit of truth.
Jesus said, I will ask the father and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever, the spirit of truth, but when he, the spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth.
I tell you the truth, it is good for you that I go away, cause if i do not go, he will not come, but if I do go, I will send him to you.
This is someone else other then Jesus coming.
Who will be with us forever, and will guide us into all truth.
The father and son will come into him and make him there home.
This is the Holy Spirit,
when he receives the spirit of truth.
@@matasaina2011 The Holy Spirit very seldom impacts my feelings, but He does prompt me to fear God, to be thankful and to praise. He most definitely impacts my understanding of the Word and my obedience. My feelings and emotions almost always get in the way of trusting God and believing His word. (Thanks for your gracious reply, most people on UA-cam only want to argue and debate)
Like John said it’s about “Christ exalting ministry” it’s not about feelings but fruit. We might “feel” the spirit working but that’s not the emphasis of what John is talking about. If we don’t end up loving people more, preaching the gospel more, repenting, and etc.. then we need to gain a better understanding of what it means to be filled with the spirit.
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Thank you Pastor John for breaking down this question so eloquently. You just gave me a revelation and new understanding of the Holy Spirit. My church but such an emphasis on solely the experience (Speak in Tongues) that I hindered myself from speaking in tongues and thought I wasn’t saved without it. Seeing people run, faint, etc terrified me. I did eventually speak in tongues without the fainting, running etc. It’s easy for us to think our “filling” will be similar to others, but I’m a living witness that you can experince a different type of filling.
The Spirit
1.Convicts us of sin
2.Testifies the scriptures are true in proclaiming Jesus Christ as the Son of god and only salvation
After that perhaps it can be different for people but those two are essential to know what Spirit it is. You must know Gods WOrd to know Him.
lol you werent saved when you didnt speak in tongues
Mark 16:16-18
16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
@@uncasunga1800 mark 16 tells whether you have the spirit or not. quite simple
Such a clarifying and biblically accurate answer! It makes me want to meditate upon God's Word even more and more... All answers are in there! If we strive to look for them sincerely and diligently, the Holy Spirit will surely help us. Thank you once more for sharing what God has given you, pr. John, and Desiring God team. My desire is to be thus used by Him too, in order to bring people to light, to the knowledge of truth. May God keep blessing you all greatly!
I think for me its more about the Holy Spirit leading me to love others, enemies, my family and led to kill sin and live pleasing to God in His sight more than to speak in a tongue or try to experience something....
Hopefully that makes sense
What is the HOLY SPIRIT i am 11 please tell
@@thetruthwithproof8802 Google the "Got Questions" website, or download the app. It's pretty good at giving clear answers to virtually every question relating to God and the Bible etc. They explain it biblically much better than many people can. It shouldn't be too difficult for you judging by the content you've watched on your own UA-cam channel. Don't forget that ultimately our definitive understanding of Holy Spirit has to come from scripture. If you are actually 11 years old, then you're asking the right questions. 👍
@@DG-mv6zw its my papa channel , did jesus die for my sin
THE TRUTH WITH PROOF yes! Repent of your sin, turn to Jesus Christ for forgiveness. Believe He is the Son of God who died for your sins, and was raised from the dead, so we can have life. Submit to Him as Lord of your life, and you will be born again! Made new. The Holy Spirit (the Spirit of God) will come and live in you to give you eternal life. It’s that simple - and do you have access to a Bible? That is God’s life-giving Word for your life. May Christ bless you richly with faith!
THE TRUTH WITH PROOF
The Holy Spirit is every thought that you will ever have. Any thought that hinders or disturbs the mind is a lying spirit. I envy you because your mind is fresh and full of inquiries. I let mine run wild for many years so now I have to learn to be like you!
God bless U pastor John. This is a very balanced and metered presentation. Our God is a living God that we can experience daily. I believe any christian who is not experiencing the Holy Spirit is missing the taste of following Jesus
If he's living, where is he?
You will know when it happens. And you will NEVER be the same again. I wasn’t saved when it happened to me and I had no idea what it meant to be born again of the Holy Spirit. I went to church and was baptized as soon as possible and am still being filled with the Spirit. Glory be to Jesus Christ!
Sarah Henderson 😁😁😁😂👍🍷🍞
Same. It's wasn't about just speaking in tongues or being engulfed in the power of God, the greatest thing was an immediate change of life style for God and the things of God. God bless you I hope the Lord has continued to feel
100% I didn't even know what born again was or any of that but hit me like a ton of bricks!
Jesus changed my life with the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
We are saved by grace through faith 🩵
Thankyou Pastor John. I have been praying about speaking in tongues and why I am not able to..and yet I feel the Holy Spirit in me..guiding me..after your teaching, I feel free of this misunderstanding..will continue on this path🙏
I went through this also. What helped me a great deal was learning that two of my favorite teaching pastors do not speak in tongues- Francis Chan and John Piper!!!
@@sandravarrenti927 all can speak in tongues, who believe Acts,2, 10, 19 they all received
all received Acts 2, 10, 19 read 1Cor. 14
Speaking in tongues is speaking in another language to help spread the Word of God, to those around you who don’t speak your language. Not speaking in phrases that no one understands not even the person speaking it… How does that edify the church
@@rolandolugo51351 cor 14:2
Thank you so much pastor John and Tony. That helps me so much. Calms my heart. And help fix my ideas.
Thanks
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Just love pastor John so much!!
Thank you! My eyes have been opened and I never knew this!!
Awesome, clear teaching Pastor John. The 5 points especially have provided clarity regarding this topic. Thank you!
Ephesians 1: 13
In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
When you repent and put your trust in Christ and his finished work on the cross you will be sealed with the Holy spirit as scripture states.
God Bless-Nick
if you do then the signs will follow
@@farealwitit7947 Wicked people look for signs Jesus said, the only sign we look for is Jesus!
@@darthjedi99 you fool, im speaking of the signs of salvation. not a sign frm the heavens. read the bible properly before you try to correct someone else
Proverbs 29:20
Do you see someone who speaks in haste? There is more hope for a fool than for them.
jam 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.
@@farealwitit7947 signs are for unbelievers
"blessed are those who don't see yet believe"
@@tomtemple69 Mark 16:16-18
New International Version
16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Thank you so much Pastor John for this clarity..
Amen, Pastor! In Acts 1, Jesus said Promise
Of The Father, and the fulfillment of Pentecost. He has come to fulfill the law and the prophets. Everything in the Old Testament is a shadow of things to come. Lot of people and churches miss this part.
Thank you so much for this Pastor John.
If a person speaks in "tongues" which is not a known tongue, it is not the manifestation found in Acts chapter 2.
The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to those in the New Covenant. (Jeremiah 31:31-34)
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Act 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
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Thank you Jesus for the power of the Holy ghost. A real transformation
Based on Mark 1:8, and Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-17,
the most important thing about the word "baptism" in the New Testament
has nothing to do with water. This fact is confirmed by Romans 8:9, and
1 Corinthians 3:16, and Ephesians 1:13.
In John 3 Christ revealed that nobody enters the kingdom of God
without being "born-again" of the Spirit of God. The only baptism that
is important for salvation cannot be performed by a man. It comes upon
hearing, and believing, and is performed by Christ.
Unto what then were you baptised in? Unto Johns baptism for repentance. Then he commanded them to be baptized in the Name of Jesus. We are to be born of WATER and SPIRIT...water is liquid. Its not the water that cleanse us, not the putting away of the filth of the flesh but of a good conscience towards God.
Noah and his were saved by water. So baptism now doth also save us. Its for the Remission of sins.
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Amen.
Be filled with his spirit and washed in his blood
This video and also the comments have helped me in my understanding of this topic. I live in such a state spiritual blindness, it brings me so much pain that I don't have truly holy people around to talk scripture with. There are a few people that I do know that are so dogmatic as to be down right difficult to communicate with, so I don't, it is their way and no other. My wife's church is that way. I know in my heart what the baptism of the Holy Spirit means, I just am not able to put it together scripturally or verbally. They often use Acts 2:38. After sunday worship they have their ushers go and round up any new comers, usher them to the front, the pastor says a few words to them and asks if they believe in Jesus, they usually say yes. He then proceeds to invite them to b baptised and filled with the Holy Spirit. This is a church with a multi national following and is pretty large in size. Their error runs so deep on so many christian beliefs. Please pray for them, and me.
I was baptized by the holy spirit a week before easter and it was 100% real felt similar too how it is after an intense acid trip or ahyuasca session but all i did was ball like a baby for my sins and his love for me.. very profoud change im so thankful!!!!
I had a very similar experience on 4/21/24 but I believe it began right around Palm Sunday. Extremely powerful and overwhelming
Paul differentiated between the Baptism of belief and repentance by John the Baptist and the Holy Spirit in Acts 19:2 when he came upon the new disciples of Ephesus. He asked them if they received the Holy Ghost when they believed. They were believers but didn’t even know of the Holy Spirit as they were only baptized by water. They were then baptized in Jesus name when Paul explained they should believe on him “Jesus” who came after John the Baptist so they then became Baptized in Jesus name. Then he laid his hands on them and the Holy Spirit came upon them followed by speaking in tongues and prophecy. It was obviously important to Paul to inquire of these believers of the Holy Spirit baptism and then make sure they experienced it. I still struggle with this after reading 1st Corinthians 13-14 and all that Paul dealt with in that church. They were getting carried away with the use of speaking in tongues. My church encourages this but does not strictly adhere to Paul’s instructions during church service and interpretation, prophecy, etc. I’m still praying that God will help me understand this better.
Very good point. Thanks for pointing out. Did you ever figure it out? Thanks
Hi! Hope this helps ^_^. Sorry for the long message.
Does the Baptism with the Holy Spirit still exist today? Ephesians 4:4-6: There is one baptism - which one? (Written about 60-62 A.D.). There are three options:
John's baptism - Passed when the new covenant began. (Acts 19:1-5)
The Baptism with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2 and Acts 10) - is no longer present as it was a prophecy/promise that has been fulfilled. It was never a general command for all Christians.
Baptism with water in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins to receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus commanded this baptism. (Matthew 28:18-20)
This baptism is recorded all the way through the book of Acts and the Epistles. In fact, Peter was present for all the baptisms: John's baptism, both accounts of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and preached water baptism in the name of Jesus in Acts 2 (33 A.D.) and in 1 Peter 3:18-21 (written around 64 A.D.), well after all the events of the book of Acts.
It had to be the one baptism of Ephesians 4:4-6 as it was the only one practiced by 60-62 A.D. when Ephesians was written.
The miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit (next lesson)
Received by the apostles' laying on of hands
No longer present today
General Observations
Apostles were able to pass on the gifts because they were apostles. The Apostles possessed the ability to perform miracles even during the ministry of Christ (Luke 9:1). This ability to pass and perform the gifts was not given at Pentecost.
1 Corinthians 12 and 14 are not the directives on how to receive tongues (the church there had already received them), but rather the correctives on how to use them because everyone was speaking at the same time and misusing the tongues. 1 Corinthians 12:28-30 shows that tongues as a gift were not given to everyone in the church. Thus the concept of a "Pentecostal church" (every member speaking in tongues) is contrary to Scripture.
1 Corinthians 13:8-10: "Perfection" here could not mean the coming of Christ because it is in the neuter gender in Greek, not the masculine gender. When perfection comes probably refers to the canonization of the Bible some time after the first century. At that time, all the miraculous gifts would be gone because all the apostles and those to whom they passed the gifts would have died.
The purpose of the miraculous gifts from 1 Corinthians 14:20-22:
To get non-believers to believe (tongues were only to be used to bring non-believers to faith).
To edify the Christians and strengthen their faith.
Now the Bible fulfills these needs - thus the church today does not need apostles or miraculous gifts.
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 shows that there can be miracles by Satan today. Satan's purpose is to deceive people about the truth, so they will not be saved.
Speaking in "tongues" is common in many religions (Mormon, Catholic, Islam, etc.), because religion gets dried and staid. These are also called "ecstatic utterances" - non-understandable sounds and fragments of speech.
A person can be filled with the Spirit without speaking in tongues (Ephesians 5:18-20).
Jesus never spoke in tongues and he was accorded the full-measure of the Spirit (John 3:34-36).
Such a touching experience, glad to Imagine the boy walking in Streets of gold and listening to Angelic Choir.
200,000 raped altar boys agree! The Christian cult and weekly brainwashing are so cool!
i fell into lust plz pray for me
the lost adventurer we all fall short of the glory of God, we all fail in one way or another. Repent and leave the sin behind, as Jesus told the adulterous woman in the New Testament, he forgave her and told her to go and sin no more.
I will pray for you ! Confess your sins and repent and forsake your sinful lifestyle.
Remember , Submit yourself to God . Resist the devil, and he will flee from you .
Always use the Scriptures to defeat temptations and always pray to the Holy Spirit to guide you and walk with you so you would not satisfy the lustful desires of the flesh. If you have any questions or prayer requests feel free to message me. Peace be with you and God bless !
Be busy in your thoughts especially for things of God
I'm afraid no one falls into any sin. Please read the book of James. But each when tempted by his own desire, is led away by it, into sin.
To sin against God is a conscious act of the will. It's part of what makes it so outrageous.
Look carefully at yourself, whatever your particular sin is, recognising your guilt and inability to be holy on your own, as the rest of us.
Repenting from sin must be done consciously with a desire to turn your heart to God for salvation and for satisfaction. Or else you will return to sin.
Stop watching movies and television which are continuously bombardier Ng your mind with impure ideas. Unless you stop it , you would not get victory.
Don't worry... if you don't want to speak in tongues, you never will. I had this experience when I was a new believer and didn't know what I was being prayed for because if this was from God, I wanted everything He had for me. I believe total surrender is the key.
Not everyone will speak in tongues as it's a gift from God
As long as Christianity lasts, this sort of question will always follow especially among Christendom. Pastor John is compassionately explaining systematically of (for example) Jesus' definition, Luke's definition and and Paul's of Spirit's baptism. And they all agree with different terminology. For me, I never worry about being baptized with the Holy Spirit since it's the same with being born again. I agree with Pastor that Holy Spirit's baptism is an act by which the Holy Spirit unites believers with Christ. This union with Christ occurs at the moment of being born again because regeneration cannot happen without the work of the Holy Spirit in uniting us with our Lord Jesus Christ. Honestly, I don't agree with those who say Spirit's baptism is necessary after being born again because I couldn't relate this teaching with Biblical teaching but this doesn't mean I don't agree with the teaching about the need of Spirit's empowerment in witnessing the Gospel of Christ.
Right! The Samaritan woman didn't speak in tongues or heal anybody but when Jesus spoke to her-she STAT went to witness! Like ASAP! IMMEDIATELY!
This was a superb explanation! I have been helped and blessed in my understanding! Praise Jesus for Pastor John!
not really
Yes this video has the clear message on the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. We all need experiencial knowledge of the working of the Holy Spirit. It is very obvious that when we surrender more to the LORD, we experience more of Him in our lives. Through Christ the Holy Spirit brings us to the revelation of Christ, and the Father. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is empowering as this brother says, and also reveals to us the wonder of the Tri-une God Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The more we give to God of ourselves the more we receive from the Lord who has that Abundant life already in us when we are born again. I am not ashamed of experiencing the speaking in tongues, I will not argue its purpose with anyone. ALL I know is that the Tongues in my prayer life are so advantageous.
Amen. The Godhead three in one. I will not argue... and edifying for me mainly unless someone can interpret to edify others
Wow 🤩 amazing it never crossed my mind to ask have a refresh of Baptistism.
Very helpful. Thank you pastor John
The indwelling of a born again believer. The LORD God gives whatever gifts that He wills to His followers.
This video was made in perfect timing . I just completed a AOG youth group where this phrase was thrown around a lot .
I only hope that all who question about the baptism of the Holy Spirit, only seek and receive the experience that changes them including opening their eyes of their hearts to see the truth about this. Unfortunately many are just satisfied with theological answers not-pressing on to the life changing infused life in the Holy Spirit. Going to the right assembly of believers makes a difference.
Thanks for the teaching. I was bothered with this question for a long time.
"38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts: 2:38 KJV
The only thing that ever gets in our way. Is our carnal nature to exercise our free will. If we stay in him focused on him all times we can and mostly are emerged in the holy spirit. But when we walk outside of him we loose that anointing. And we know we must get back into focus. Anytime we are not emerged we are separated and must seek him and get back to him. That's how we live in his will and not our own not thru our own understanding but thru his. Will. We are then one with him in him. And that's why we need to stay focused on him all times.
Thank you Pastor John.
Many Christians like Billy Graham, Hudson Taylor and John Sung did not have specific baptism of Holy Spirit moments in their lives except the indwelling of the Holy Spirit at the moment of conversion. They were filled by the Holy Spirit to evangelise and many people were saved. My view is keep confessing our sins the moment we are aware of them and the Holy Spirit will be able to work through us powerfully.
The Baptism of the Holy Ghost is the Lord Jesus coming upon a person to not just purge their sins away but to give them power for living.
Thankyou Pastor John
I am come from pentecostal denomination and I have gone through treasuring experience (which I don't want to forget in my life long because whenever I have a doubt or unsolved question I can look back to those experience) in so called pentecostal meeting. But same time as I am growing in word of God I find some practice of pentecostal are extreme which not even in Bible . So sometime I got confused whether to deny all the experience of pentecostalism or to embrace. Any way thankyou for helping us specially those who are from our denomination. We need more correction in our denomination. We will be glad if you could lovingly teach us biblical teaching. Love and prayer to you.
I grew up in a Pentecostal denomination as well. And I have noticed some things they teach not according to scripture. But I do very much like their emphasis on strong prayer and living in Holiness. About experiences... I don't think it's good to always try to seek experiences, for we live by faith and truth not by sight. We must submit to truth and trust the truth of God's word more than our experience. Some false teachings like Mormonism say they experience God by reading the book of Mormon (and by that they find it to be truth)but the book of Mormon contradicts God and his revealed truth in the Bible.
But also experiences are good as I have felt great joy, love, and repentance at times in deep prayer and Bible study. As long as that experience drives you closer to his written word and knowing Christ they're good.
I suggest you study 1 Cor 12-14. I have noticed that Pentecostals have an over emphasize on the spiritual gifts (like during prayer service everyone will speak in tongues out loud without an interpreter(1 Cor 14:26-28). The Bible doesn't teach that the gifts have ceased but we need a balanced view of them and be biblical in how we use them.
@@tomk4984 thankyou brother for your suggestion
because its not a denomination within actual christianity lol
Great answer to such a complex question.
Amazing teaching. Amen Pastor
Jesus loves u accept him say your lord and saviour
No, thank you.
@@vuho2075 wow smh
I like how you said Lord also ,, And savior ..
Brought all sin on me god glory GOESPEL GOD GOG CROSS MIRACLE DONE
This sounds very similar to what happens during my daily time in the Word and prayer. Or am I wrong in my interpretation? I remember a warmth and feeling of overwhelming love when I became born again but many times during by quiet times I experience overwhelming presence of Christ in my prayer times or times in the word or when telling others about Christ. I’ve never known this as anything other than the presence of God, are you saying this could be baptism in the spirit? I’m just trying to understand, thank you.
I had this when I was born again. Baptism in the Holy Spirit is different. Gives you power and strength, sort of on the inside. That was not there before I was baptised in HS. Check out The Last Reformation " The Life" documentary film by TLR and other short videos on youtube.☺
Nicki Bulicek That’s God’s presence; the Holy Spirit. That’s has been also my experience!
The Spirit is always with the believer, He is the one who enables us to say Jesus is Lord.
The Holy Spirit is always with you from the moment you are born again, you will sence Him, you know that He is there if the fruits of the Holy Spirit are there (joy , pace, love, kindness, patience...) . The baptism is something more...it gives you boldness to say to everyone about Jesus, you don't care anymore of what the people think about you. It gives you strength to surpass, endure everything, even torture. Think like that: the first, is His presence in a small quantity, the second (the baptism) is a total fullness.
One morning I got up reborn and with a new life force and a view of myself and the world around me. The Holy Spirit descended on me after 1 week of sincere search for Jesus Christ, after years of madness with new age deception. 🙌🙏
How many baptisms are there? By AD62, the apostle Paul writes to the Ephesians telling them (and us) that there is "one".
water, fire and Holy Spirit
Matthew 3:11 talks about water baptism by John and the Holy Spirit and Fire by Christ
@@Lindabinda777 Eph:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, ONE baptism.
@@ChristisSaviour Paul fell the need to empathize the one baptism in Ephisian written aroud 60 to 62 AD because people were confusing the 3 baptism mentioned in Acts.
1.John's baptism - Passed when the new covenant began. (Acts 19:1-5)
2.The Baptism with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2 and Acts 10) - is no longer present as it was a prophecy/promise that has been fulfilled. It was never a general command for all Christians.
3.Baptism with water in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins to receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus commanded this baptism. (Matthew 28:18-20)
This baptism is recorded all the way through the book of Acts and the Epistles. In fact, Peter was present for all the baptisms: John's baptism, both accounts of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and preached water baptism in the name of Jesus in Acts 2 (33 A.D.) and in 1 Peter 3:18-21 (written around 64 A.D.), well after all the events of the book of Acts.
It had to be the one baptism of Ephesians 4:4-6 as it was the only one practiced by 60-62 A.D. when Ephesians was written.
Acts 2:4 KJVS
[4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Acts 19:6 KJVS
[6] And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Romans 8:13-17 KJVS
[13] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. [14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. [15] For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. [16] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: [17] And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
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You forgot the tongues of fire on their heads. That happen to you? Love to see the video🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mr. C No, no fire above my head but I did get the fiery trial.
1 Peter 4:12-13 KJV
[12] Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: [13] But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
Thank you for posting
I know that there were 2 very distinct feelings between getting baptized by water and baptism by the Spirit. Being baptized by water made me feel like I had a clean slate to start over, and being baptized by the Spirit made me feel like the walls between us were broken down and I was standing next to God. Metaphorically speaking, water baptism felt like adoption papers were signed and Spirit baptism felt like family bonding. Now, yes I did have some Christians with charismatic backgrounds lay hands on me to pray for that baptism and to pray in tongues. But nobody fell and convulsed on the ground. In fact, biblically speaking there was only one kind of event where people fell and convulsed- exorcism of demons by Jesus.
Good description..we initially have to ask God for the baptism.. The scripture that says the Father wouldn't give His child a stone or serpent is to comfort those who fear the experience is demonic (as many say about tongues)
The Holy Spirit give you power to be bold and let me warn you don't ever try to rebuke a demon without being filled with the baptism of the Holy Spirit he will laugh in your face
everyone is laughing not in your face cuz its the internet lol
Please pray for me to quit smoking! 🙏🔥🙏
Brother, see it as this. You're ruining the vessle that God gave you. You should take care of the body you've been given. 1 Cor 6:19-20 Gods bless and stay strong ♥️
Please prayer for me.
I will pray for you ! What do you need ? Just trust and believe in Jesus because with Him nothing is impossible !
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1 Corinthians 12:13
[13]For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
This is a baptism BY the Spirit into the body of Christ.
Acts 1:5
[5]For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
This is a baptism WITH or OF the Holy Spirit which is done by Jesus Christ.
Matthew 3:11
[11]I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
As you can see these are 2 separate experiences. They can and should happen together when we preach the true Gopel as Peter preached in Acts 2
Acts 2:38
[38]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Hope this helps clarify things 😊
Be blessed all 🙌
I agree they are two different experiences. When I was baptized by water I didn’t fully understand what I was doing. I knew that it was for my sins to be forgiven, but I didn’t even know that repentance meant changing your mind. I just felt led to be baptized. I feel the Holy Spirit’s presence around me, but I don’t feel it truly dwelling within me. I think there’s a difference between being baptized with water and having the spirit Indwell within you. I believe the baptism of the Holy Spirit may come when you have great faith in Jesus and the Gospel, possibly more understanding. This may also be why the western church isn’t walking in the power of the Spirit as the disciples did. I think a lot of people like myself found faith in Jesus but weren’t trained or taught much afterwards, whether they went back to the world or just didn’t have good teachers to disciple them. I think it’s a topic more people should be talking about. We would probably see more power in our churches if we earnestly sought the Holy Spirit. (Not to take place of Jesus of course, but it’s His spirit that we need to live, and I think many of us don’t truly have it yet.)
@@CreatingWithTheCreator Amen! 🙏
I also agree with you. We need more discussion and teaching on these matters because they are and will be life for the believer 🙌
Be blessed my sister in Christ 😇
@@seanvann1747 absolutely! God bless brother. 😊
Totally agree with you all, but experience is different, by the Grace and Power of our Lord I feel and see that I have been baptized into Christ my Lord and he is freely given me the gift of the HS, I now am a new creation in Christ walking with him in the Power of his might, shining for his Glorious Light.. I am now living in his Truth like he said in John 4:23_24 that God seeks those who worship him in Spirit and Truth, I'm forever greatful to walk with my Lord daily by trusting in him. Newness of life. My Past is history and my future in Christ is my Victory through his spirit in me. Love him forevermore. The thing that I'm really greatful about is I now understand the true meaning of baptism in the HS makes a person be born again, why John said I baptize with water, but he Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit and fire.. and he did that for me. Since I've never been baptized at all, just a sprinkle when I was a baby and I knew that wasnt right. But now I know that we don't have to baptized by water, because when we give our whole hearts to Jesus and accept him, trust in him to lead us, he will baptize us in his name and the gift us with the HS. Happy Seventh day Sabbath (Saturday) to yous all my brothers and sisters in Christ. Peace Shalom
What you need to know is to Expand your knowledge of God , then you will have all the motivation for your Christian Life ! All True Christians or baptized with the Holy Spirit and conversion
I think the issue is not whether one is empowered by the Spirit again and again. Most believers would agree with that. But the issue is whether the dwelling of the Spirit resides in the believers when they have a conversion experience. Often I heard from Pentecostal pastors, although one is a believer, the Holy Spirit does not dwell in them, or does any work in them. That happens only after the baptism of the Spirit.
the power brings salvation. its not separate
2 Corinthians 1:22
set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
In Eph 5:18Paul seems to follow the Lukan meaning: “Do not get drunk on wine…, Instead go on [repeatedly in Gk construction] being filled with the Spirit…”
With all due respect, if the day of pentecost was necessary, and the Baptism "with" the Holy Spirit was a second baptism then, that pattern does not change. There are three Baptisms. And Pastor John, if you dont believe in speaking in tongues, that's okay. But dont Blaspheme it and call it "unusual". I can give you scriptures that supports speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of the Baptism "with" the Holy Spirit. The lack of power in the churches is their reliance on their power and not the power of the Holy Spirit! Stay Blessed!
tongues does nothing
totally useless
The Spirit spoken of in the Bible convicts us of sin and testifies to the veracity of Scripture
Paul said not all people are given the gift of tongues. It is the Holy Spirit who determines what gifts to give to believers. I know of many godly people who don’t speak in tongues but whose lives are being lived for God. Tongues is not the evidence of being baptized in the Holy Spirit.
This is very on point! Martyn Lloyd-Jones is more detailed and explicit, but in essence this is the very truth on the baptism of the Holy Spirit!
Ofc people tend to take everything to extremes because that's the human he likes extremes... And I know that charismatics brought this even to heresy and weird external manifestations that is NOT of three Holy Spirit! But you can't eliminate that part from the Bible just because you saw people distorting something from the Bible...
How to practice and live the Holy Spirit's Fruits
Follow, live and practice the Holy Spirit's Fruits DAILY on yourselves and others until you become like the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit's fruits are . . . (I have expounded on the scripture)
- unconditional love in your heart and soul,
- heavenly peace in your heart and soul, peacefulness
- a blind trusting faith the Lord will provide
- hope always in Jesus
- endurance, temperance
- extraordinary patience
- having a joyous spirit in all circumstances and situations good or bad
- gentleness with yourself and others - grace
- kindness with yourself and others - mercy
- self control over carnal desires and the flesh
- resilience when facing temptations
Galatians 5:22-23
The Holy Bible is your map and a lamp in the darkness lighten your path so you do not stumble and fall. When you become the Holy Spiritual Fruits you are divinely guided, directed and protected. You feel loved and cherished. Amazing LOVE!😌🙏
can you baptized again? because in my church they do baptized again
Quote from Billy Graham’s book on the Holy Spirit:-
“I simply cannot find any biblical reason for saying that tongues is a gift God desires to give all believers. Some may be given the gift, while many others will not be given it. It would be wrong for someone who has not been given this gift of tongues to feel somehow they are a “Second Rate” Christian, or earnestly covet this gift if God has not seen fit to give it to them. It would be equally wrong for someone who has this gift to try to compel others to have it, or to teach that everyone must experience it.
In fact, millions of spiritually mature Christians have never spoken in tongues, and many who have spoken in tongues are not spiritually mature”
Try checking out Mark 16
Joseph Burriesci carm.org/does-mark-16-17-18-teach-that-all-christians-must-speak-in-tongues
The Holy Spirit had not yet been sent. I always thought the ‘secondary baptism of the Holy Spirit’ was for those who had been converted prior to Him being sent. Does the bible speak of baptism of the Holy Spirit occurring for those who were converted after His arrival (Pentecost)?
yep, read the book of acts,
Hi! Taking away from Acts, Ephisian, and 1 Peter
Does the Baptism with the Holy Spirit still exist today? Ephesians 4:4-6: There is one baptism - which one? (Written about 60-62 A.D.). There are three options:
John's baptism - Passed when the new covenant began. (Acts 19:1-5)
The Baptism with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2 and Acts 10) - is no longer present as it was a prophecy/promise that has been fulfilled. It was never a general command for all Christians.
Baptism with water in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins to receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus commanded this baptism. (Matthew 28:18-20)
This baptism is recorded all the way through the book of Acts and the Epistles. In fact, Peter was present for all the baptisms: John's baptism, both accounts of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and preached water baptism in the name of Jesus in Acts 2 (33 A.D.) and in 1 Peter 3:18-21 (written around 64 A.D.), well after all the events of the book of Acts.
It had to be the one baptism of Ephesians 4:4-6 as it was the only one practiced by 60-62 A.D. when Ephesians was written.
If you want more information I can refer you to more study sources or my church does bible studies in depth on that.
@@Valeska6000 Yes it does, Hebrews 6 states it as Baptisms being plural. Acts 19:6 we have ppl being baptised in Holy Spirit when Paul laid his hands on them Acts 8:17 When Peter laid his hands on the they also received the Holy Spirit. All post Day of Pentecost
Baptism of the Holy Spirit like described in Acts is real, separate from being born of the Spirit, and has never ceased. Anyone who has been baptized in the Spirit knows without a doubt they have because it is overwhelming experience where the Spirit rushes upon you and fills you entire spirit and soul and immediately changes your heart. I experienced it and didn’t know anything about it and wasn’t in a church that even talked about it. I was filled with the holiness and love of Christ and power to proclaim the gospel which I never did before. All my desires and affections and thinking completely changed and wanted Christ to control every part of my life. It was a desperate experience for me but happened only a few months after my conversion. My mind was illuminated and enlightened immediately when it happened. I knew nothing about it but knew what it was immediately because the whole experience matched up with scripture. I could feel the Spirit in me daily and expedited daily overwhelming joy, love, peace, patience, hope, self control, and a love for God’s word that I never had before.
Can you guess who wrote the following? "Nine-tenths, at least, of the church members never think of speaking for Christ. If they see a man, perhaps a near relative, just going right down to ruin, going rapidly, they never think of speaking to him about his sinful course and of seeking to win him to Christ. Now certainly there must be something wrong. And yet when you talk with them you find they have faith, and you can not say they are not children of God; but they have not the power, they have not the liberty, they have not the love that real disciples of Christ should have. A great many people are thinking that we need new measures, that we need new churches, that we need new organs, and that we need new choirs, and all these new things. That is not what the Church of God needs today. It is the old power that the Apostles had; that is what we want, if we have that in our churches, there will be new life. Then we will have new ministers--the same old ministers renewed with power; filled with the Holy Spirit."
Dwight L. Moody, in his book "Secret Power", published in 1881
We must confess and repent, turn toward God, and invite the Holy Spirit into us, daily as John Piper suggests.
Great sharing!!! I just started listening to DL Moody's The Overcoming Life via Aneko Press Christian audio books. Amazing that he was so heavily criticized as not being an outstanding orator or worthwhile theologian by "certain standards." So far, I beg to differ...
Halleluyah 🇮🇳🌏🔥🔥🔥
Firstly, let's get thr terms theologically correct. There is no such thing as the "baptism of the Holy Spirit." The "Of" presumes that the Holy Spirit does the Baptism.
John the Baptist promised that Jesus would baptize"with" the Holy Spirit. This correct nomenclature is in concert with the scriptures.
YES!!!!🔥📖
Having grown up in Apostolic and Pentecostal churches....speaking in tongues, taking flight and running laps inside the churches, shouting and rejoices, falling out (the way that this host explains in the beginning) is ALL normal to me.
Members experiencing these acts are interacting with the Holy Spirit. Each member of the church will have his/her OWN experience. There is NO RIGHT or WRONG way to experience the Holy Spirit.
So, I don't know why he (the host) states that it makes him uncomfortable. 😏
Is eating breakfast a right way to experience the holy spirit? Doing you taxes? Masturbating?
Pray for more of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of truth with lead you into al truth. Where in the bible does it say to pray for fresh baptisms ?
Everything takes time! It can apparently take 21 days to make or break a habit! After being stuck in any lie and who wasn't, perfection doesn't come overnight! It's a process!
I appreciate pipers honesty and boldness in approaching every issue which most pastors won’t touch! But I’m sorely disappointed in this episode, he never actually addresses wether someone being laid out cold passed out, is empowering that person to then evangelize! I agree with his interpretation of the text but how that’s manifested he didn’t dare address! And that was the actual question! Of it makes a Christian uncomfortable then please point out proof afterwards how it was the work of the Holy Spirit
I need a fresh baptism.
Great explanation about the subject of discourse - re baptism of the HS
Good question, good answer. 🙏❤️🙏
Wait, so I was always taught that when the disciples got the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, that this is when they received the Holy Spirit for life, like that they are now SEALED with the Holy Spirit. Just to make sure I am understanding Mr. Piper, does he mean that this is not that moment? But that they were actually sealed with the Holy Spirit before Pentecost? I understand that they are already saved/converted before Pentecost. Can anyone confirm if my thoughts are correct? (P.S. -> I'm not asking if you think Mr. Piper is right or not. I just want to make sure I am understanding his viewpoint. I know that there are some other theological implications with my questions.)
We have to be careful on my trusting or looking to feelings and such, I literally had a charismatic tell me that experience triumphs scripture……..
John I don’t often disagree with your exegesis but we are only baptised with the Holy Spirit once at conversion,however we ought to be filled with the Spirit and this may be our privilege
as we submit to the Lordship of Christ
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One way to see the difference between being baptized into the body of Christ and being baptized with the Spirit by Jesus. In one case the Spirit is the baptizer and in the other case Jesus is the baptizer.
When the Pentecostal experience came in to the other denominations decades ago it was the teaching that one required the Baptism of the Holy Spirit as a second blessing. It was the way to receive power and supernatural gifts. However, charismatics outside the Pentecostal church learned not to say that openly because they were essentially claiming to be on a higher spiritual plane. I notice nowadays that the debate between say Phil Johnson and charismatics tends only to be about the gifts such as tongues, prophecy etc. But not the second blessing teaching. At least with the Pentecostal teaching of a two stage (as it were) conversion experience the teaching is clear. Note the subtlety of Mr Piper’ s teaching in that of course we all need to be vigilant in seeking to be filled with the Spirit by obedience to the Word, but this doesn’t mean a second experience of manifestations. The inference of Mr Piper’s teaching is that a second blessing to receive power and manifestations is necessary.
I love you paster John in i have a question
Good stuff.
My understanding;
baptism of the holy spirit and being filled with the holy spirit are not the same thing.
Baptism, is the receiving of the holy spirit....or being born of the spirit. It's a second birth. Spiritual birth. It is being added to the body of Christ (to the church).
Only someone baptized with the holy spirit can be filled with the holy spirit.
Which is an empowerment for a specific service.
I was at a meeting and the question was If anyone can know when they are going to die, would you want to you. Everyone said no except me, i would want to know to get my house in 😊order. So our group lost 3 of the memb🎉erers died, it started to bother me. I was cleaning the dishes everything was quite and I heard a very light voice and said 85 but I couldn’t here it that clear. One week later doing the same thing I heard it again very clearly 85. Was that the HolySpirit.
If the German man who asked the question feels uncomfortable in this church, perhaps find a church you feel happy to go to....I would feel uncomfortable too, no where in the bible do people writhe around when given the Holy Spirit...speaking in tongues isn’t about talking gibberish, God gave the gift of speaking different languages, so that his word could be spread to those who didn’t speak Paul’s native tongue.
there is mention of a prayer language that is between a believer and God isnt there?
This is Europe. If you aren't charismatic, you're prisoner of classical old churches
@@StEvUgnIn yes, thats very true...I keep away from all that stuff.
There is some crazy stuff people do and say it is the Holy Spirit. But don't let that keep you from the truth. Acts teaches us that when we receive the Holy Spirit we will speak in tongues. 1 Corinthians teaches us how the Holy Spirit is to be expressed in the Church. The Corinth Church were over enthusiastic with tongues. We are also instructed to pray in tongues and in our own normal language. To pray in the Spirit is to pray in tongues. It is no more complicated than that but very powerful. In church, Paul tells us for two or three to speak out in tongues with interpretation each time, the two or three prophesies. I only know of one church that does that.
Baptism of Holy Spirit is different experience than being born again.
That happens after you have been born again.
Baptism of the Holy Spirit is enpowerment, receiving power, to serve God and be a witness live holy God honoring life by the power of Holy Spirit.
Usually marked by speaking in tongues, if the person has fruit of the Spirit (love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control ) visible in his life. If not then speaking in tongues doesn't mean anything in this person's life without the fruit of Spirit.
Jesus didn't say by their gifts you shall know them, but by their fruits.
I am pentacostal, but sometimes people who speak in tongues don't have such visible fruit of Spirit in their life as some who don't.
Samuel Osaulenko or fake the speaking in tongues..
Stephen Hunt what are you even saying?! I’m saying people who don’t have the Holy Spirit probably fake speaking in tongues. I never in my whole life witnessed this and I don’t believe you need to do this to have the Holy Spirit.
Hey I’ll watch that when I can 🙏 when the apostles spoke in tongues in acts .... it was the Language of each of the people standing around. So all the foreigners understood The gospel! Ultimately is was a way to expand the message of the cross
Stephen Hunt No, you don't have to speak in tongues if you receive the Holy Spirit. God gives different spiritual gifts to different believers so that we will be able to bless and edify one another. As Paul explained to the Corinthians:
1 Corinthians 12:4, "Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons. But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues. But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills."
The Spirit of God decides what gifts He will give to each believer according to His own will and purpose. The gift of tongues is listed here right alongside the other gifts as something that one believer has and another does not. Paul goes on to explain that it is God's purpose that we all have different gifts so that we need one another and function together like the many members of one body. He says, for example:
1 Corinthians 12:17-21, "If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole were hearing, where would the sense of smell be? But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired. If they were all one member, where would the body be? But now there are many members, but one body. And the eye cannot say to the hand, 'I have no need of you'; or again the head to the feet, 'I have no need of you.'"
In this context, Paul plainly says:
1 Corinthians 12:30, "All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they?"
It is clear that many Christians have the Spirit and have been given gifts by the Spirit, but God has chosen not to give them the gift of tongues. In fact, Paul's logic here seems to assume that the majority of believers did not have the gift of tongues, just as the majority of the body could not be eyes, hands, or knees. Any Spiritual gift is only given to some believers for the sake of edifying all and bringing us together in local church communities.
Stephen Hunt I’m not going to argue this with you. My whole point is that people don’t need to speak in tongues to be saved. I truly believe that. Also, your being about religion now “non-pentecostal” people?? So do us non-Pentecost’s need to dance with snakes too? How do you know for certain each person speaking in tongues is not faking receiving the Holy Ghost? What are tongues even? Is it a language you don’t usually speak i.e French, Spanish, Chinese or is it sounds that make up a fake language? I guess if YHWH wants to fill me with the ruach hakodesh..I will know when that day happens.
Stephen Hunt sorry for being snappy but yes each persons walk with God to salvation is different and I don’t believe it’s scriptural that you have to speak in tongues to be saved. Shabot Shaolm. ♥️
There is only one Spirit of God, you either have God"s Spirit or you don't.
(John 1:12; John 3:3-5; Romans 10:9-10,13; 1 John 1:7).
Yeah, but that ONE SPIRIT dwells INDIVIDUALLY in those that have said Spirit.
Do you guys talk about the Firmament and Biblical Cosmology?
I have never spoke in tongues does that mean I am not saved I have never had a special conversion story please pray for me
No not so all. If you trust in Jesus and have repented you are saved! That’s it! You don’t even need to be water baptized to be saved. Jesus wants you to be baptized to show your dedication to him but if your believe in your heart and confess with your mouth Jesus Christ is Lord you are saved.
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
Shane Fu Thank you for replying I thought I was saved but then I backslidden I am giving my life to Jesus now but it’s got me questioning if I was ever saved and wondering if I am saved now I believe Jesus blood is enough to cover all my sins I’m just questioning if it is covering my sins
@@godsgreat2145 ask God himself if you are saved, he will let you know, it's his will to let you know if you are saved or not.
@@godsgreat2145 It seems that you lack assurance of your salvation. Our position in Chrisr should never be based on our feelings but on the Word of God. God’s Word says that your sins will be forgiven and will not be counted against you if you repent and believe. What is the general direction of your heart? Do you desire to follow God? If yes, that means that the Holy Spirit is in you. Do you grieve over your sin? If yes, then you are a child of God because one of the works of the Holy Spirit is He convicts a person of his/her sin.
Read 1 John all chapters. That book talks of the marks of true believers. Especially 1 John 5:16 - I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.