1 corintiers 15 1:6. Not a word on batism. Ejrn you believevupu get baptist bij the holy spirit. Its the second birth. First birth is of water ( from your mother whom).
One morning I got up reborn and with a new life force and a view of myself and the world around me. The Holy Spirit descended on me after 1 week of sincere search for Jesus Christ, after years of madness with new age deception. 🙌🙏
We'd love to have you in the private FB group Reformed New Agers in Christ. It's a group for ex-new agers that are now Christians. Personally, I feel so much love and support from believers that dealt with the same madness! God bless you for escaping the deception!
I was recently deeply troubled while asking myself this exact question just a few days ago. I let God lead me and I found your channel and this video. Thank you for sharing and being a messenger for God. I have been blessed by his sacrifice for my soul and his loving guidance to return to him. Amen.
@Carlie Trogicj He does, because that's what Christ taught. Scripture is very clear: Baptism _is_ necessary: it links us to Christ's own baptism, without which we would NOT participate in his death and resurrection.
Dear friend, if you're not baptized, and have placed your trust in Jesus for the forgiveness of your sins, get baptized. It is a step of obedience to Christ. You are saved by faith in Christ, but as a believer you're called to be baptized as an identification with Jesus as your Lord in His death, burial, and resurrection. Don't let it get complicated.
It's still simple, if you live the same life you did before you met Jesus you are NOT saved. If you repented and reject sin and believe in Jesus you are saved
@@peskeyfly4688 I think it's important to remember that even demons have belief in God and they tremble. Even though they believe, they are not saved. It talks about the inadequacy of only belief, without seeing an actual change in your actions in James chapter 2. Also, It'd be good to read over 1 John chapter 1 and 2, where John talks about how even if we say we are believers, if we have hatred in our hearts and we are not following Jesus' commands to love, then we are still in spiritual darkness. John also says not to love the world or anything in the world. "If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in him." These are really difficult principles and I am not living them out 100% in my own life. Luckily, John says in chapter 2 that "I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father- Jesus Christ, the righteous one." So the presence of sin in one's life is not condemning, but the conviction of sin that we experience is an act of the Holy Spirit in our lives. Paul also urges us in Romans 12 not to be conformed to the pattern of the world, but be transformed by the renewing of our minds. This renewing is also done by God. I agree with you that we are saved by our faith, and there is no work that can save us, because even are best works are as filthy rags to God, like it says in Isaiah 64 and Romans 10. However, even though we are only saved by the faith that God gives us, good works are proof that faith has taken root in our hearts, and therefore we can read and trust the words of Christ when he says, "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." If someone says they are saved but are not convicted of their own sin and empowered to fight against it by the Spirit, then they need to consider the condition of their relationship with Jesus.
@@lucaskaufman1725 demons cant be saved Jesus didn't die for them. That's what lordship salvation followes us to makes excuses for good works nobody lives good not one single person on this earth by Gods standards.
@@peskeyfly4688 I am in no way arguing for the potential salvation of demons, I am making the argument, along with James, that someone can come to a knowledge that God exists, and Jesus is the anointed Messiah, but until they come to an understanding of the truth, they will be whisked away by various passions like the women mentioned in 2 Timothy chapter 3, and may not actually be saved. I agree with Paul that none are righteous, no not one, but it would be incomplete to say that there is no distinction between a loving act and a selfish act. If we act out of love, which is only possible by the Holy Spirit, then we are saved; not because of the work itself but by the Spirit which gives us the desire both TO WILL and TO ACT in order to fulfill His good purpose, like it says in Philippians 2:13.
Lucas Kaufman no, sorry. Jesus died for the salvation of man. Demons can _believe_ in Jesus-heck, even if they could admit they were a sinner in need of a savior and it would never gain them eternal salvation because the blood shed of Christ was for humans. Not demons. What they believe is irrelevant.
You use that verse to justify not being baptized. That is a result of lack of study. When Paul wrote that, the Ephesians were already baptized. Acts 19 tells you the Ephesians were baptized. You cannot get around baptism for salvation. They already obeyed the command of baptism. They needed to know about the grace of God!
@Kendrick Simms there are plenty of people here that believes it's not necessary for salvation. Another problem is equating baptism to work. Baptism has never been a work for man. It has always been a commandment. I don't refute we are justified by faith. We can't work our way to heaven. However, we do have to work because faith without works is dead.
@@jmcc-lt3lk You're justified by Jesus' blood through faith. Through faith, not through work, not through obey rite, obey commandments, work, deed, church attendance.. because nothing can save yourself except through faith. If you have faith the byproduct of that is good work. Good work is justification toward bro and sis. God looks at your heart.
Christian Pfefferberg From what? A nature that HE gave us? For forcing free will on us? For leading us into temptation? And...tell that to all the innocent infants and toddlers that he drowned instead of just poofing them out of existence.
Mr. C Isaiah 55:8 God says “ My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts, and my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine. For just as the heavens are higher than the earth so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts higher than your thoughts.” Who are we to Judge our creator? Lol
Yes, though he saves us through his death and resurrection: If we want to participate in his resurrection, we must be born-again in Christ... that is, *be baptized onto him.* It isn't for nothing that he himself said: "no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit."
As someone who would say baptism is a necessary part of our sanctification, it isn’t because I don’t understand that it is by God’s grace, given freely to us though we did not deserve it and accepted by us through our genuine faith in His Son, Jesus the Christ, that saves us. My argument would instead be that one cannot claim to have genuine faith in Messiah Jesus if their response to His lordship does not include baptism. Pastor John mentions that it is something we should do as quickly as possible after coming to that salvific faith, but what if we don’t? What if we just never get around to being baptized? Jesus tell his apostles to make more disciples, baptizing and teaching them (Matt. 28:19). Peter says to repent and be baptized, not only for the forgiveness of sin but to receive the gift of God’s Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38). Paul mentions that at the point of his conversion Ananias asked him, “And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name” (Acts 22:16). The water is not what does the saving, we can all accept that. But Jesus, the Incarnate Word, and Peter and Paul, apostles of Christ who spoke not by their own authority but by the inspiration of God’s Holy Spirit, all say to submit to baptism- not as a work of the flesh like we’re trying to earn our way into heaven, but as an obedient response to God’s work that He’s doing in our lives to justify and sanctify us. How can anyone claim to have an “inward change” if they don’t follow it up by being obedient to the words of Christ Jesus? Pastor John brought in Romans 4 and Colossians 2 talking about how Abraham was justified by his faith prior to being circumcised. But in James chapter 2, James uses the exact same event of Abraham being counted righteous according to his faith, but brings in the fact that Abraham followed up his faith by being circumcised and offering his son Isaac on the mountain to the Lord to show that Abraham’s faith was exemplified and made “alive” by acting on that faith. How can we claim to have faith in the Son of God, but then not live out that faith by being “baptized into a death like His?” (Romans 6:3). God gets to make the final call, but I can’t see how anyone could claim to have assurance in Christ if they began their relationship with Him by essentially saying, “nah, I don’t think that action you told me to do is ‘necessary’ for me and you to have a right relationship.” That’s like if your dream spouse showed up and said, “I want to be with you forever, all that I ask is that you be faithful, and as a sign of our love wear this ring,” and you responded with “I’ll totally be faithful to you, but I just don’t feel like wearing a ring is necessary and it seems like to do so is asking a lot of me.” Jesus isn’t asking for much at all- Have faith in Him as Lord of your life, and then get dunked.
Nicely put brother. Baptism doesn’t save you but a saved person would get baptized. So if your not baptized your not saved. Not because of the lack of baptism but the lack of obedience through baptism that is expected of a saved person. So does baptism save you. Yes and No. It’s not the baptism but the obedience of being baptized.
QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU: How come Paul did not baptize gentiles? 1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. ua-cam.com/video/KVvY_AGVDgQ/v-deo.html
The blood is applied at baptism. Acts 22:16 ...ever time a person was converted in the book of acts they were baptized immediately...because there is a connection between believing and being baptized. It’s is faith with action behind it.
Thank you for answering this correctly, it’s by faith we are saved, not of works. Being baptized is and outward expression. It’s a lot of people that went in a dry devil and came out a wet one, but never believed!
Water baptism happens because someone has been saved. Water baptism doesn't save. The recent coronation happened because Charles is now the King. The coronation didn't make Charles the King. Charles became the King when his mother - Queen Elizabeth the Second - died. A coronation for William or George would be nonsense as neither of them are King.
@@jeffmichaels3155 Jesus had the power to forgive sin. Also, baptism is a participation in Jesus's death AND resurrection, which hadn't happened yet (Romans 6:1-4; Acts 2:38-41; Colossians 2:11-12)
@@graceambassador65 How would you interpret the seven churches in revelations? Yet all of them had something good which Jesus mentions he also finds shortcomings at all of them. Do you think there is the ultimate most bible true denomination/theology? I don't want to relativize and say nothing is true or some nonsense like that. But isn't it possible that in all theologies which truly base on the bible there are Christians which really believe in the lord? Live in his grace and will be in heaven one day? Maybe they don't live their full potential through faith but yet they go into heaven through christ alone. We are prompted to call out false teaching yet there is also 1. Corinthians 13. Love in God's grace is always important. I really believe people who say the gifts of the spirit don't exist anymore understand the bible false, they miss the opportunity of God's active wonder of any kind. And if I'm confronted with such teaching and the holy spirit urges me I will confront them. But still, I will meet them in heaven if they truly believe in Jesus. For example, Protestants tend to generalize and condemn merciless all Catholics and Orthodox but they forget there were nearly 1000 years in which almost only those Christians existed on the whole earth, with the exception of some isolated monasteries (or sects like the Adamites or Catharism which definitely weren't Christians). (sry I'm not a native speaker :D)
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles? 1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying. ua-cam.com/video/KVvY_AGVDgQ/v-deo.html
Thank you for explaining this crucial importance of knowing how we are saved. It is by "FAITH" ALONE that we are saved! Baptism is THE OUTWARD EXPRESSION OF OUR FAITH AS A BELIEVER IN CHRIST. BAPTISM ALONE DOES NOT SAVE US. ONLY FAITH! ✝️❤️
Salvation is by faith, nothing change that, it was given to us with the sacrifice of Jesus. How can we obtain? By faith. Now, even satan knows who Jesus is, what makes the difference is because we repent of our old person and submit to Jesus, once we believe we have the promise of salvation. When we baptize we submit and repent in his name and become a new person, sealed with his holy ghost. There are a few exceptions, yes. But we cannot count this as true. Paul did not preach anything different. When Paul said Jesus did not send him to baptize does not mean we should not baptize, he was telling to an existing church that it was good that he did not baptize them so they dont say they baptize under Paul or Peter, but under Jesus christ.
I repented and was converted October 14. 1994. I was changed right away. My spiritual eyes were opened before I was baptized. I got baptized later but it did not save me.
QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU: How come Paul did not baptize gentiles? 1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. ua-cam.com/video/KVvY_AGVDgQ/v-deo.html
@@TorahisLifeandLight that's a good question. The answer is rather simple. 1 Corinthians 1:16, 17. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else. For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel-not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. To understand this, you must have discernment of the scriptures. Jesus gave them instructions before going back to Heaven in Matthew 28:18-20. The verse to note is 19. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. You cannot make disciples without preaching the gospel. There is an order...make disciples (preach the gospel), then baptize. There is no use of baptism without preaching the gospel. So Paul was following orders. Preach first, then baptize. And he was commanded to go to all nations making disciples, including the Gentiles, and to baptize them. Keep studying with an open heart. God will show you the Truth.
@@jmcc-lt3lk Paul clearly said it that he did not baptize any gentiles. Did he lie? Paul didn't know that water baptism was detrimental for salvation?? Yes! he knew that was not a requirement for the gentiles to be baptized. There is no historical record that proves that the people whom Paul preached to got baptized . The narrative of baptism in the NT was referring to "Holy Spirit" baptism.. That's completely different than water baptism my friend. That's like apples and oranges. So, by the direct statement of Paul, that tells me or anybody with some common sense and for lack of evidence that Paul did not baptize gentiles with water baptism or Holy Spirit. PERIOD. The Ones that Paul baptized in the same chapter of 1Corinthians 1:16,17 were disciples of John the Baptist who were 12 men in that instance who were baptized already by John the Baptist BUT Paul baptized them with Holy Spirit. They all were Jews. My friend , you must read the context. NOW, when you quoted Matthew 28:18,19 These verse do not indicate anything of water baptism at all. INSTEAD, the context indicates that the Messiah referred to baptize believers with the Holy Spirit according to his direct command in : Acts 1: 8 “But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come on you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth" So in order to be Yeshuah's witnesses or followers, these disciples needed to receive the Holy Spirit as commanded by the Messiah himself. The Holy Spirit was a promise to the children of Israel by the Most High as the Messiah quote it himself. Acts 1:4,5 }While he was with them, he commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for the Father’s promise. “Which,” he said, “you have heard me speak about. for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit in a few days." EVERYTHING INDICATED THAT THE APOSTLES AND MESSIAH HIMSELF followed and obeyed a prophetic command given by the prophets themselves. See Joel 2: 27-32 referring to the children of Israel ONLY. As Peter indicated this prophecy got fulfilled in Acts 2:5, 38-39 When they believed Peter , the devout Jews coming from all the nations around the world to worship in Jerusalem as the Day of Pentecost festival , which it was done every year by the devout Jews. Just like Passover or Sukkot festivals. So when the people believed in the Gospel and Repented they were baptized into the Holy Spirit and their sins were forgiven according to Acts 2:38,39 They didn't need a "human blood sacrifice" or water baptism for their sins to be forgiven right? Peter did not indicate any water baptism or even mentioned anything along the lines of 'blood covenant "by the messiah. why? because it was not written by the prophets. By the way, Corneliious was a Roman Jew who was considered a genitile because he was not circumcised. Just like the Greek Jews who were hellenized and not circumcised. Some were also considered from Hebrew race as Abraham children or Abraham's stock but not Israelites as Paul indicated in his letters.Ishmaelites ( Ishmael's children) were Hebrew gentiles. why? because Ishamel's father was Abraham. They were Hebrew gentiles. Acts 13:26 "Brothers and sisters, children of Abraham’s race, and those among you who fear God, it is to us that the word of this salvation has been sent." What I shared with you my friend, does not indicate the non Hebrew gentiles or non israelite gentiles will not be saved. Actually God's plan was also to save 'people" from the nations as "non israelite gentiles" to be part of the Israel but they had to meet certain requirements and also follow the leadership of his people as Paul indicated in Acts 13: 47,48 Just like ancient time Israel. It's coming back again my friend. That's why you need to learn Torah and the Prophetic Torah to understand the purpose of God for Israel and humanity.As a Sephardic Jew myself, i am very happy to know these good news for the future. If you want to be part of Israel in the future kingdom, you need to flee from deception that is promoted by Christianity. I am just being a straight shooter with you. Shalom,
@@TorahisLifeandLight You are confused...very confused. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo which means to immerse in water. If it were not so to baptize in water, then why did Phillip baptize the Ethiopian Eunuch in water in Acts 8:38? The Ethiopian said "...See, here is water; what doeth hinder me to be baptized?" Verse 38, "And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and THEY when DOWN BOTH into the WATER, BOTH Phillip and the eunuch; and he BAPTIZED him." The Bible also says in 1 Peter 3:20, 21 "to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through WATER, 21 and this WATER symbolizes baptism that NOW SAVES YOU ALSO- not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God." And no where are we baptized into the SPIRIT. We are baptized into CHRIST. Romans 6:3 "now ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?" Galatians 3:27 "for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ." We receive the Holy Spirit as a gift when we are baptized. Acts 2:38 "Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." Staying with this verse, IF they did not need water baptism, the Bible would have said another sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house ( or the location at which they were) where they were sitting. They also would have seen to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. That wasn't the case, because that promise wasn't to them. That was for the apostles. And Paul clearly stated he baptized some in 1 Corinthians 1:16. IF Paul didn't need to baptize anyone, he never would have baptized AT ALL. Yet still, it is not true when you have an understanding of the Greek word baptizo, meaning to immerse into the water. You think only Jews are saved? It is true...the Jews were first to receive the Word because they were God's chosen people. We are all adopted into the family of God if we obey Jesus and his teachings. In Romans 1:16 Paul writes, “I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.” The gospel is intended for all people. But, chronologically, the gospel message was first revealed to the Jewish people before it was revealed to the Gentiles (non-Jewish people). The Jews are God’s chosen people (Deuteronomy 7:6-7). Through the Jews, God demonstrated His love and holiness to the world: “Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah” (Romans 9:4-5). It was through the seed of Abraham that “all peoples on earth will be blessed” (Acts 3:25; Genesis 22:18; 26:4). That promised blessing came through Jesus Christ, as explained in Galatians 3:16. Jesus was born as a Jew under the Law, fulfilled the Jewish Law perfectly, and died as a once-for-all sacrifice on behalf of all who would put their faith in Him (Galatians 4:4-5; Hebrews 9:14-15, 23-28). Fleeing from Christianity means fleeing from Jesus, and I will have NO PART IN THAT. I am not leaving the one who died for me! There is no way you can keep the Old Law perfectly. If you live by the Old Law, you are subject to it's penalties when you break the Old Law. That's why I am under the New Law/Covenant/Testament which gives grace. I hope you can come to know Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
@@jmcc-lt3lk First of all, don't put words in my mouth. You said Jews "were' chosen" ? LOL According to Paul and other apostles We :Jews" are still the chosen people of God. What are you talking about? Plus i never said God will never save non israelites ( non Jews). Did you read my previous my message? I guess not. I made it very clear about that. Now on the other issue of "baptism", i know what baptism means in Hebrew and Greek. I speak Hebrew and understand Greek. I have some questions for you. I would appreciate if you can give me your answer. Question #1) what word is used in the bible for baptism in the Holy Spirit vs baptism in water? Since you said that the Greek word baptism all over the NT was only for water baptism. Question #2) Now immersion in water is more important for you than baptism in the Holy Spirit? Question #3) in Acts 2:38 ..what made you think Peter baptized ( immersed) the devout Jews who sent to Jerusalem to celebrate the feast of Pentacost in Water where Peter said very clearly to "repent' and be baptized in the name of the Messiah in order to receive the Holy Spirit?Peter said to "repent" then receive baptism of the Holy Spirit. Perhaps you think there is no baptism in the Holy Spirit?? Is that what your pastor told you? lol Haven't you read what Acts 1: 5 says when the Messiah told his disciples to stay in Jerusalem to be baptized in the Holy Spirit? The Messiah clearly stated that John the Baptized with Water BUT Yeshuah will baptize with Holy Spirit after repentance which was what Peter did. I think you are the one very confused not knowing the difference between water baptism and Holy Spirit Baptism. Sorry charlie but you need to repent for learning deceptive doctrines. Acts 1:4,5 ,8 "While he was with them, he commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for the Father’s promise. “Which,” he said, “you have heard me speak about." “for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit in a few days.” But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come on you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” So you think the Messiah will only 12 witnesses and nobody else received the Holy Spirit according to the New Testament letters and Gospels? You are confused my friend!! There are a lot more people who received the Holy Spirit as it was a promise given to the children of israel and it was predicted by the Prophets. why are you calling God a liar? when you go against what is predicted or prophecies ...you are practically saying that God is a liar that he won't fulfill what his prophets predicted???????????????? Are you OK? I don't think you are familiar about this prophecy regarding the Holy Spirit being promised to the children of Israel. That's how confused you are and your entire religion 'Christianity". Listen, your false religion will come to an end soon. We are living in the Apocalypse. Repent before is too late. Believing a LIE is a sin and will condemn you. Read 2Thessalonians 2:9-13 Yes, people were immersed in water but it was not for the forgiveness of sins.The baptism of the Holy Spirit was for the forgiveness of sins. Acts 2:38 and John 14: 26 and John 16:7-11 It was not for the Holy Spirit nobody will come to repentance and be guided to the truth. By the way, ONLY Phillip baptized in water but none of the other apostles baptized in water instead they baptized Jews with the Holy Spirit. You go figure why. I know why but gentiles have a problem with that. Another note , the Messiah Yeshuah was murdered . That's a huge difference . His murder was not for the forgiveness of sins.it was only to fulfill the prophecy to show that not all israel was saved but only those who believed and had faith in the prophecies regarding him. why? because the Bible says so. how? Well, Peter preached the Gospel and people REPENTED" and then Peter baptized with Holy Spirit. That's how they got saved. Peter never said nothing about a human blood sacrifice in order to get saved or to be forgiven. This is according to Acts 2:38 and the whole chapter as context. The Messiah himself never preached to the crowds that a human blood sacrifice was needed in order to be saved. SHOW ME ONE SINGLE VERSE THAT SAYS THAT The Messiah preached what was predicted about him to preach. He preached what Ezekiel 18:19-24 predicted in order to get forgiveness and redemption. This is also correlated with another prophecy predicted by the prophet Isaiah in 61:1, 2 The Messiah preached the kingdom OF ISRAEL BEING RESTORED THROUGH HIM that he inherited through king David. This was the good news he preached to the lost sheep of Israel. Read Mark 1:14,15 Yeshuah/Jesus said to repent and believe the Gospel OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD. he never said nothing about a human blood sacrifice in order to be forgiven. SHOW ME ONE SINGLE VERSE where the Messiah encouraged or preached the crowds forgiveness of sins was through a human blood sacrifice OR THROUGH WATER BAPTISM ???????????????????
Thank you, I have a brain injury, and PTSD, from military service, and I am doing my deciplship, week 8 teaches about Baptism, so this helped better me understand.
Don't believe this man. He is wrong...a false teacher. You are doing discipleship? What did Jesus say re: making a disciple? Who do you believe, these men or Jesus?
There is allways so much tension when it comes to baptism. It started with John the baptist. Where he was doing a baptism of repentance. Then Jesus was baptized. Jesus said a servant is not greater than his master. Why do we think we do not need baptism. I'm not saying its necessary for salvation, but thats a big risk. The King came down warning everyone repent for the Kingdom is at hand. You are in the wrong kingdom, you need to enter my Kingdom, by water and Spirit. The disciples understood this and thats exactly what they preached and did. I also think that God is greater than our little quarrelling and if you cannot be baptized, but want to its a different story, for example the thief on the cross. He couldn't get down to get baptized. But hardening your heart and standing firm that baptism isn't necessary is a different story. They also understood, where we nowadays think that faith is just believing. Is not how they did. Its has a action. Because you believe in Jesus and that you are following Him, you get baptized, read romans 6 where the whole chapter is about being baptism and that you are now free from the bondage of sin. That overpowering grip on you, where sin will no longter have dominion on you. The disciples preached the new birth exactly like Jesus told them when He rose from the dead and for 40 days talked to them about the things of the Kingdom. Everyone was baptized in acts and the very same day on most cases. Peter even commanded them to be baptized after receiving the Holy Spirit in acts. One last thing is that the disciples preached repentance, baptism water and Holy Spirit. That was what the Churches consisted of. So all the letters in the bible written by Paul and others is for born again believers and taking out passages and implementing that on non believing people, I think is foolish. We will be held accountable for what we preached and I don't think we must do anything different than what they did in acts. They knew more than we do now.
I agree 100% and in addition to that, what about Jesus's words in Mark 16:16 ' He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.'
@Elias Jesus is the "Word of God" (John chapter 1). The water in which we are buried represents Jesus' Blood, and our rising out of the water represents our resurrection to a new life "in Christ". We cannot enter into Christ except through His Blood, which we do when we are buried with Him "in baptism" (Col 2)
John Dough yes Jesus baptizes us with the Holy Spirit and Fire. Fire always signifies Judgment and Jesus will use fire to cleanse the earth.in The Day of The Lord .2 Peter 3:10. . We can call judgment on cancer and tumors etc. I called the fire of the Holy Spirit on a tumor in a woman’s brain and her head was healed after great heat consumed the tumor and she could speak properly and was healed.
David Lane what did saint Peter say or what did Jesus say. He that believes and is baptized will be saved. Mark 16:16. Saint Peter commanded spirit filled believers to be baptized into Jesus in the water. Acts 10:48. If a believers refuses to obey Jesus first commandment then how will they do the greater works in John 14:12 . Saint Peter gave the keys of the kingdom in Acts 2:38. Repentance unto salvation and and deciding to follow Jesus and being baptized into Jesus and being filled with the Holy Spirit. Renewing our minds by god’s word will occupy the rest of our lives as we become disciples of Jesus Christ while making other disciples of Jesus Christ Romans 12:2. Your next step is to be baptized into Jesus in water baptism. Romans 6:2-6 Colossians 3.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." You MUST be born of water AND the Spirit.
I would consider myself to be a non-denominational Christian. I have the desire to be baptized, but sadly, most churches require you to be a member before they will baptize you.
My church baptizes believers who aren't members. Then again, we don't actually have membership, which makes things easier in that regard. If you know any other believers, you can ask them to baptize you-in lieu of actually being baptized in a church environment.
There some churches like the Seventh Day Adventists who baptize people without them being their members first. One can then choose to join them or not. It would appear though that worshipping with some specific group of believers is beneficial to one. Jesus was not a Pharisee nor Saducee but he worshipped with them every Sabbath day.
I decided I wanted Jesus in my heart at the age of 5 and asked my mom to help me. I remember the time period, the place and what I was doing which was taking my vitamins with juice after eating breakfast. Also I believe I felt the devil's presence in a particular room before I got saved. I think he knew that he was going to lose me to Jesus Christ and God. And he was really trying to scare or freak me out. Anyway I didn't get baptized until the age of 17 mostly due to the fear of water and being dunked. As I was dunked in pools by cruel kids when I was growing up and it traumatized me. Also before that I didn't even want any water touching my face or head as I thought it would hurt or kill me.I finally decided to get baptized as I trusted that the pastor wouldn't drop me or let me drown. Anyway thought I would share. God Bless!
Amen!!! We are justified by faith! I got water baptized and it was beautiful, but it didn’t save me! The book of Acts makes the transition from works/law to grace super clear. By the end of the book of Acts we as believers can fully understand what God wanted to accomplish all along. There are no works required to be saved, believe in the complete and finished work of Jesus Christ! People who think they need to be baptized to be saved have misunderstood passages of scripture and are not reading the book of Acts from beginning to end.
The Bible does say that New Testament baptism is for the remission (pardon, forgiveness) of sins. ( Luke 24:47, Acts 2:38 & 22:16, Colossians 2:11,12 ) The Bible does say that New Testament baptism is our burial, which is an essential part of the gospel of Death, Burial, and Resurrection. ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Romans 6:3-5, Colossians 2:12 ) The Bible does say that New Testament Baptism saves us. ( Acts 2:38-40, Titus 3:5, 1 Peter 3:21, Mark 16:16 ) Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:5 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38
Tim Loewen Tim Loewen it’s hard to say anything to someone who has their mind made up. Even if I had every ounce of proof to show you otherwise, you seem dead set in your thinking. I will still give you a breakdown of the book of Acts so you can see the transition for yourself. I highly recommend you take some time to read that book in 1 sitting, and to take notes (rather than taking a few bits of scripture out of context. Below this paragraph I will extensively explain the transition to you. The book of Acts is a transitional book. Below is a transition from Law to Grace God created using Peter. Acts 2:38 (Jews) - a message for the Jews to repent and be water baptized. “Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off-for all whom the Lord our God will call.” Acts 10:44 (Gentiles) - a message for the Gentiles to believe. The moment they believed unto Jesus the Holy Spirit of God fell upon them. “While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message.” Acts 11:16 “Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.” Significance of Acts 11:16: Peter sees the Gentiles get saved and receive the Holy Spirit just by accepting the Gospel and immediately remembers Acts 1:5 (For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.). Peter realized the water baptism was for the Jews, but that God is going to turn from needing a water baptism in order to receive the Holy Spirit, to simply receiving the Holy Spirit by BELIEVING THE GOSPEL! The point of this sequence was for God to make both the disciples and the audience reading this book understand that in order to receive the Holy Spirit all you need to do is believe the gospel of Jesus Christ. The moment you choose to believe in the gospel you will receive the Holy Spirit. This sequence also helps illustrate the transition that was taking place from the LAW to GRACE. Law said repent and be water baptized and THEN receive the Holy Spirit. Grace says believe the gospel of Jesus Christ and receive the Holy Spirit. All you need to do is believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ for the Holy Spirit to fall upon you!!! Now we have a look at the transition as spoken through Paul in Acts 13:38-48. He is rejoicing seeing the Gentiles get saved, and in verses 46-48 says: “Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: “We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles. For this is what the Lord has commanded us: “‘I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’” When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.” How did these Gentiles get eternal life according to Paul? How did these Gentiles get the Holy Spirit? BY BELIEVING! It was NOT by water baptism, it was by FAITH! The book of Acts is a transitional book: from Peter to Paul, from Jews to Gentiles, from Israel to the Church, from Signs to Faith alone, from needing a water baptism in order to receive the Holy Spirit to only needing to believe the Gospel to receive the Holy Spirit. Further proof of this Acts 15:7-9 - Peter is addressing the Pharisees accusations against the Gentiles, as they believe they aren’t saved because they aren’t circumcised as commanded under the law of Moses: Acts 15:7-9 “After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe.”” Peter was speaking here in these verses, he was joined by Paul and Barbabas to share with the Pharisees what God had done for the Gentiles. Here Peter assures the Pharisees that the Gentiles were saved by receiving and accepting the Gospel! The Pharisees believed the Gentiles were unsaved because they were uncircumcised, these Pharisees were still looking to the Law, here Peter was explaining how now we look to Grace. We are saved by GRACE through FAITH. We are not saved by WATER, we are saved by FAITH. This is not from us, this is a gift from God. Icing on the cake by Peter, Acts 15:10:11 “Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.” Peter makes is crystal clear that they (the Jews) are saved by the Grace of God, just as they (the Gentiles) are! We are saved by GRACE through FAITH today, not water baptism. Further proof we are saved by Grace through faith alone: Acts 16:30-33 - Jews asked Paul what they must do to be saved. Here is what Paul says in Acts 16:30-33 “He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved-you and your household.” Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house. At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized.” Notice how Paul told them that in order to be saved they needed to believe in the Lord Jesus! That was the condition given when asked ‘what must we do to be saved?’. It was AFTER they believed that they were baptized. It doesn’t say ‘believe and be baptized, only then you shall be saved’, it says “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved”. Salvation came from believing in Jesus Christ, not from the water baptism. Edit: if you’d like I can take things a step beyond the book of Acts and show you how this remains consistent throughout other passages of scripture. The book of Corinthians, Ephesians, and Romans have many verses that are commonly misunderstood. People tend to pick them out and conclude that baptism is necessary for us to be saved. Another common theme is to take Old Testament scripture out of context as well. The reason I am dead set on bringing an accurate understanding of the book of Acts is that the book deals with this very subject... law vs grace. The point of the book of Acts is for us believers to know and understand that there is no deed or work we can do to ‘earn’ our salvation. Our salvation cannot be earned, it’s a gift from God. God requires faith, not our works which are filthy as rags. The reason I am getting into heaven isn’t because I followed some 10 step program, or because I was baptized... it’s literally because I placed ALL my trust, hope and faith in the only savior that could redeem me! I placed all my trust in Jesus Christ, that’s why I’m saved!!
Angelo Manzi AMEN. I was saved by grace for years before I was baptized. But I knew I was saved and if I had died during my multiple surgeries I would be in Jesus’s arms. The day I was able to be baptized I knew it was letting the whole church know I was a follower of Jesus!
How do one believe? That seems to be hard work by itself. Belief in fantastic stories that make no sense at all. The Bible that seems to contradict itself on every word. How is it not work to bring yourself to the point where you claim to know God?
Since you brought up Lutherans, I'll be the resident Lutheran here...so, when Lutherans say "baptism saves" what we don't mean is, by going through the "act" of being baptized, a person is saved, as if baptism is the "efficient cause" of salvation. To say "baptism saves" is no different than saying "preaching saves". If a Baptist were to say "preaching saves" every other Baptist would instantly know what is being expressed. "Preaching saves" doesn't mean every single person listening to a sermon is automatically saved; it means that the Gospel comes to a person through the sound of the preacher's voice and that the Holy Spirit through the Gospel pounds away at the human heart to work faith in Christ (Paul said the Gospel is the "power of God", after all). Baptism does the same. It is God's Gospel communicated through water. Saying water is just a symbol doesn't help here because words are just symbols too but in both cases - preaching and baptism - the Gospel is being communicated, by God, to the individual. Spoken words are not visible but water is, so baptism is the "visible Word of God" to use St Augustine's phrase. Or, as the Reformation Lutherans were fond of saying, Baptism is the "visible Gospel" and so brings the same promise and has the same power as preaching. So yes, a person can come to faith and be saved through preaching. In fact, all adults before baptism must already be believers in Christ. But that doesn't empty baptism of it's promise or announcement, namely, that in Christ, all your sins have been swallowed up by the eternal logos, who hung on a tree, granting full remission of all your sins. That Gospel, which to every Christian is full of power and comfort, comes in preaching, bread, wine, and in water, working faith, newness of life, regeneration, and salvation. Amen and amen.
“[17] For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.” 1 Corinthians 1:17
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles? 1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying. ua-cam.com/video/KVvY_AGVDgQ/v-deo.html
@@IsaiahFisher19 that is true too. Both are needed for salvation along with other things like grace, faith, repentance, confession, and living faithfully until death.
@@jmcc-lt3lk He that believes the gospel gets baptized with the holy Spirit. So that's the baptism. Not water. You don't want to put your faith in your water baptism, just in what Jesus did for us.
@@mkovis8587 Lack of understanding will make you come to the conclusion you did. First, the Greek word for baptism is Baptizó (βαπτίζω) which means to dip, immerse, to go under water. Second, the Bible teaches you, along with the Greek definition of baptism, that baptism means water in Acts 8:36-39; 1 Peter 3:21, 22; and John 3:3, 5. Obedience to what Jesus said do is what saves us. Jesus commands us to be baptized, and he told his apostles to teach and baptize (Baptizó) in Matt. 28:18-20.
THE BIBLE SAYS BAPTISM IS IN WATER 1 Peter 3:20-21 (20) Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. (21) The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: Mark 1:9-10 (9) And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. (10) And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: Acts 8:38-39 (38) And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. (39) And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing
Believe should be accompanied with baptism in order to be saved. In the words of Jesus. Believe is like fulfilling one part of a requirement to be a nurse, say exams without registering as a nurse. U may have the qualifications but u are not a nurse until all the requirements are completed such as registering with the council.
who formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, during the building of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 1 Peter 3:20-21 RSV-CI
It is virtually undisputed truth that man is saved by divine grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8). However, some have concluded from this fact that there is nothing that man can or must do for his salvation. It is frequently argued that "water baptism can't possibly be necessary for salvation because it is a work of man. Man is not saved by works." Such an objection however, betrays a misunderstanding of the meaning of justification by works. In recent articles, we have defined the doctrine of justification by works from the Scriptures. We have also noted that saving faith is completed by obedience (James 2:22). The difficulty for those who reject water baptism as essential for salvation is the multitude of passages describing its purpose and consequences. These passages clearly indicate the necessity of water baptism for salvation. For example, on the Day of Pentecost, the apostles taught that water baptism is "" (Acts 2:38). There are some who would try to argue that the preposition "for" in this expression means "because of," a view which fits neither the normal meaning of the preposition nor harmonizes with other passages on the purpose of water baptism. The same expression "for the remission of sins" is found in Matthew 26:28; "" I have yet to meet anyone who argues that Jesus shed His blood "because of" the remission of sins, i.e., because sins were already remitted. "" (Acts 2:37). It is amazing the apostles didn't tell these believing Jews they were already saved! Those who embrace the "saved by faith only" doctrine would have told them that. The apostles didn't pray the "sinner's prayer" with them, accepting Jesus into their lives as their personal Savior. Why can't those who claim to believe the Bible simply tell the believer today exactly what the apostles told believers on that Pentecost: ""? Baptism is obviously symbolic. Is it then just a "reenactment" of the believer's salvation? Although some favor this view of water baptism, such is not what the apostle Paul wrote about baptism. We are baptized "" (Romans 6:3), "" (Romans 6:4). Paul did not suggest that baptism is symbolic of the believer's salvation; he compared the believer's baptism to the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. In baptism the sinner is "buried" with Christ, but the comparison doesn't stop there. Paul wrote, "" (vs. 4). Jesus was raised from the dead and came out of the tomb; so also the buried sinner is raised spiritually as he comes out of the water of baptism. "Newness" has reference to quality rather than time. The person who once was dead in sin has now been made alive by the working of God (Colossians 2:12). Paul observed that the Galatians had baptized "into" Christ (Galatians 3:27). Can anyone be saved "apart from" Christ? In the same text, he noted those who were baptized into Christ, had put on Christ. Can we be saved without "putting on" Christ? Saving faith is completed by obedience. Water baptism doesn't "earn" salvation any more than any other individual act of obedience causes the doer to merit salvation. In fact, the person baptized for the remission of sins is seeking the favor of God in the form of forgiveness -- hardly the action of one seeking to be justified by his own works! Water baptism, however, does serve to complete the faith of the believer (James 2:14-16).
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Heb. 12:2
Baptism is not a work it is an act of obedience. For as many as were baptized have clothed themselves with Christ. We do not know the thief on the cross had not been baptized. They were still under the old law.
Me loving my neighbor is also a command yet it doesnt save me. It’s what a saved person does. Now, the most important thing here is being justified is what saves us. Anything that allows for justification saves us like grace, faith etc… baptism does not justify us thus it cannot save us. We must all do it and its extremely important but we do it because we are saved not to be saved.
I grew up as a baptist and fought against baptism being needed for salvation. I once spoke the same as Piper and others. I also reworded the word of God to fit my lack of believe. Why? We are saved by grace THROUGH faith. True faith is belief trust and obedience. Hebrews 11 gives us an account of what true faith is. If you truly believe the word of God the you trust in the commandments given to you and that trust leads to obedience. Being dipped into water does not save, the water does not hold some special antidote to sin. But it’s the humbling your self to God in baptism. In that moment you are united with Christ and you bury the old man and are raised a new. “Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?” “We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.” Romans 6:4-6, 8-11 ESV Have true faith a faith that follows the word of God over the word of men. Please stop following the man and follow your one and only true God. Please have the faith that trusts the word of God and be baptized for the remission of your sin.
James 4:8 - "Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded." Proverbs 1:23 - "Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you." Romans 12:2 - "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." James 1:5 - “If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.” Isaiah 41:17-18 - "When the poor and needy seek water, and there is none, and their tongue faileth for thirst, I the LORD will hear them, I the God of Israel will not forsake them. I will open rivers in high places, and fountains in the midst of the valleys: I will make the wilderness a pool of water, and the dry land springs of water." James 4:2-3 - "Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts." Matthew 7:11 - “If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?” Matthew 18:3 - “...Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.” Acts 19:2-5 - "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." Act 2: 38 - "Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.." John 10:26-27 - "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: John 3:5 - “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Acts 3:19 - "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;" 2 Peter 3:9 - "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." 1 John 1:8-10 - "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." James 5:16 - "Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much." 1 John 1:9 - "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." Acts 2:38-39 - "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." Matthew 19:13-14 - "Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them. But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." Acts 22:16 - "And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Romans 10:9 - "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Titus 3:5 - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost. Ephesians 2:8-9 - "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Acts 2:21 - "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved." John 7:37-39 - "In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)" Isaiah 11:2 - "And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;" 1 Corinthians 12:13 - "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." John 4:14 - "...whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life." John 3:15-18 - "That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." 2 Corinthians 1:22 - "Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts." Colossians 2:11- "In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:" Genesis 17:12-- "And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed." Matthew 18:5 - "And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me." Proverbs 22:6 - "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it." Mark 16:16 - “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Romans 6:4 - "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." 1 John 2:1-5 - "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him." Leviticus 17:11 - "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul." Hebrews 9:22 - "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." Matthew 16:24-26 - "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?" James 2:26 - "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." James 2:18 - "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works." Romans 10:14-15 - " How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!" Matthew 28:19-20 - "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world." Psalms 50:5 - "Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice." Matthew 22:37-40 - "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." 1 John 5:3 - "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." Deuteronomy 11:22 - "For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;" Ephesians 4:30 - "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption." Galatians 3:26-2 - "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." John 10:28-30 - "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one." Romans 8:15 -16 - "For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:" Psalms 82:6-7 - "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes." Revelation 3:21 - "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne." Matthew 1:23 - "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." Isaiah 9:6 - "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Deuteronomy 6:4 - "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"
The thief on the cross is irrelevant to this topic. The thief on the cross lived and died under the old law. Jesus didn't command the Baptism "of the Christian age" until after he rose.
If the New Law gets established after the death and resurrection of Christ why didn't the Apostles get baptized again? Furthermore, there are no records of the Apostles being baptized, but it is assumed that they were since they were proper disciples of Jesus.
QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU: How come Paul did not baptize gentiles? 1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. ua-cam.com/video/KVvY_AGVDgQ/v-deo.html
Salvation is a path not merely an event - that's why it was called "The Way." You are saved so long as you are on "The Way." You "were saved" at first faith. You are saved from slavery to sin in water baptism (Rom 6, Col2:11-13). You are "being saved" through sanctification. And you "will be saved" if you endure in faith to the end (of your natural life). These are the three tenses used in the New Testament concerning salvation.
Jesus Christ made it clear to his apostles that they should go every and teach the people all things and baptizing them in the name of the father, the Son and the holy spirit if it wasn't important Jesus wouldn't leave that instruction God says if all things were to be written the Bible would have to be the size of the world so he put in it what is important for our salvation and to enter heaven simple. Mark 16:16-"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned".
I'm still of the opinion that water baptism was to bring Jews to repentance. That is the key in my mind, repentence, not water baptism. I repented and asked said I believe Jesus died and rose again and asked for Him to come into my life as Lord and Saviour. Then I felt an amazing feeling come over me like I've never felt in my life. The whole room was filled with peace, like nothing else existed but peace. I experienced the infilling of the Holy Spirit. Also the change of heart and desires that followed that life changing experience. Well, I was dead, but now I'm alive, so that's something you notice. I had what I can only describe as a glowing feeling for a good week or two after that. A lightness due to the burden of sin being lifted from me. It's a real noticeable change, if you are born again you will have no doubt about it, you'll know. Jesus `finished' it. Jesus baptises us. I'm not saying to get water baptised is a bad thing, but it's a picture of the real thing. Matthew 3:11 - I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:
2nd Birth John’s Baptism was a different Baptism than being baptized into Christ Jesus as it was a baptism of repentance. No one could be baptized into Christ Jesus until Jesus died on Calvary and rose again . Acts 19 explains the difference between John’s baptism and being baptized into Christ Jesus. we believers are baptized into Christ Jesus body by the Holy Spirit 1 Corinthians 12:13.
Water baptism is essential to salvation as it is in the center of the gospel. If you want to learn more about scripture go to www.thywordistruth.com God bless you
Jorge Torres baptism is for our benefit. All believers in the New covenant were baptized immediately into water ( or buried into Christ Jesus). The Holy Spirit baptizes us into the one body of Christ by using other believers 1 Corinthians 12:13. Being set free and filled with the Holy Spirit always happens then by asking Jesus to fill us with His Holy Spirit. This is a supernatural event just like the Lords Supper. There are no rituals or symbols in the New covenant.
Paul teaches in Ephesians 4:5 that there is one baptism. We know from Matthew 3:11 that Jesus baptized with the Holy Spirit, and later on in Matthew 28:19 we are commanded by Jesus to baptize all people on earth. Jesus baptized with the Holy Spirit, (Luke 3:16), so that leaves only one choice left. The "one baptism" of scripture must therefore be the baptism of the Great Commission.
THE BIBLE SAYS BAPTISM IS IN WATER 1 Peter 3:20-21 (20) Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. (21) The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: Mark 1:9-10 (9) And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. (10) And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: Acts 8:38-39 (38) And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. (39) And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing
Kindly refer to Mathew 28: 19 (Go Ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:) and Mark 16:15, 16(And He said unto them, Go Ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.)
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles? 1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying. ua-cam.com/video/KVvY_AGVDgQ/v-deo.html
I like to think of the book of Malachi when it comes to Baptism. People just think they can tell God they know better. I wish people could be content with Matthew 28:19 and just accept it, Knowing full well the Apostles never changed/contradicted Jesus’ commandment. Baptism is not a work. It is part of the salvation process. People can repeat and not be saved. People can confess Christ and not be saved, and people can be Baptized and not be saved. God has set up all three for salvation with Him calling us forth out of our dead state.
He that believes the gospel GETS baptized with the holy Spirit of Promise. And you must be born again to enter Heaven. Born again of Spirit. So it's not water baptism but holy Spirit baptism that is required.
What you saying can’t be true because there are people who are in prison who have given their lives to Christ who can’t get baptized and are you saying they won’t go to Heaven? Yes they will! What about innocent children you haven’t been baptized you are saying they won’t go to Heaven because their parents didn’t get them baptized? He is right Salvation is through faith in Christ alone
When you believe the gospel you get baptized with the holy Spirit. That's the baptism. You don't want to put your faith in your water baptism or anything else you do. Just believe in Jesus and what he did for us.
@@jesusismysavior9368 your sins are washed away by the blood of Jesus not water of the earth. 1 John 1:9 says...If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Amen, certainly agree. God did give Peter the keys and IMHO, I would rather follow the word and overdue then be lacking in my obedience. I personally don’t believe that baptism is and after action but should be done in totality as said by Peter’s admonition.
Thank you John for sharing your thoughts on baptism. When it was mentioned the analogy of ''Grab your hat and run!", I think more accurate explanation of this analogy would be, that he believed this man and then he ran, thus we believe Jesus and also obey His words. There are so many discussions about baptism, but why we just don't listen to what Christ said and do it? From the Bible, which one of the 2 sons from Matthew 21 did the fathers will?
I like to think of the book of Malachi when it comes to Baptism. People just think they can tell God they know better. I wish people could be content with Matthew 28:19 and just accept it, Knowing full well the Apostles never changed/contradicted Jesus’ comment. Baptism is not a work. It is part of the salvation process. People can repeat and not be saved. People can confess Christ and not be saved, and people can be Baptized and not be saved. God has set up all three for salvation with Him calling us forth out of our dead state.
@@thewhatsup Matthew 28:19 - “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,” Matthew 28:19 says to baptise those who are already disciples. In other words it is saying to baptise the already-saved. When it says “…baptising them…”, “them” is referring to disciples already made. It doesn’t say to go find people and make them disciples by baptising them.
@@dchaunpalu4655disciples are just students of someone, that doesn't mean you are saved just because you believe. Satan and his demons believe in God and his power, but are by no means saved. (James 2:18-20)
Jesus was better than any human can hope to be. We hope to follow Him through our thoughts and actions but Jesus did so many things that we hope to be able to do but sometimes can't. He forgives us for not being able to do these things. Baptism is something that every Christian SHOULD do, just as they SHOULD love their brothers and sisters and the lost, but does this mean that if they do not do this, or if they fall to sin and later repent, that they are not saved?
I love John Piper and I have a deep respect for him and his work but I've got to disagree with him on this one... You are united to Christ through faith in the water of baptism. Baptism is not a "work of merit." To suggest that it is is to misunderstand it. Almost no one who believes a person is saved at the point of water baptism believes baptism is somehow "earning your salvation." We are instructed to "call on the name of the Lord" in the water of baptism (Acts 22). The water does not save or have any power. There is no power in the water and there is no merit in going to the water. Going to the water is done only in recognition of a person's inability to save themselves and recognition that they need to "call on the name of the Lord" so He can do what they can't. I absolutely agree with John that the power is not in the water. A person is saved by faith as their heart calls on God for grace in the water of baptism. Why do we "call on" on God through baptism? I don't know, that's just the way God told us to do it. To suggest Acts 2:38 and Acts 22 ("forgiveness of your sins" and "wash away your sins") are not referring to the point of justification throws up some serious red flags. What is justification if not the washing away of our sins by receiving the righteousness of Christ? John's illustration of the man grabbing his hat and running for the train might be ok if Acts 2:38 was the only passage in the Bible that spoke of baptism this way but it isn't. What about the great commission? Jesus tells the Apostles to go to the world, preach, and baptize. Mar 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. Matthew's record of the commission also includes baptism. Galatians 3:27 says we are baptized "into Christ" and that those baptized have "put on Christ." Keep in mind, Galatians is Paul's writing. Those words seem to confirm the words surrounding his own conversion in Acts 22. I just don't understand why people are so quick to put baptism back on the "nonessential list" when its importance is stated again and again in the New Testament. I don't believe any person who is free of theological biases would pick up and read the Bible for the first time and walk away with the idea that baptism isn't a key part of justification. There are too many texts that plainly say otherwise. The audience in Acts 2:38 came to this same conclusion which is why 3,000 were baptized that same day.
Why are so many people doing everything they can to sideskirt water baptism? Its almost as if the act of water baptism is offensive. There are several instances in the bible where the gospel was preached and the hearers subsequently got water baptized. This tells me that getting water baptized is a part of OBEYING the gospel. Don't feel like obeying the full gospel? Just want to squeak by, doing the absolute minimum? Better hope that the following scriptures are not true. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; Tinker around with Gods Word, if you must and find out the truth later. As for me and my household, we got water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. I, for one, am not ashamed of that part (or any part) of the Gospel.
Philip 1 of the 7, chosen in Acts 6:5, is clearly designated in the Bible as an evangelist (Acts 21:8). Going down to Samaria he preached Christ there (Acts 8:5). And then: “Acts 8:12-13 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Simon himself believed and was baptized. (…)” This passage (Acts 8) highlighting the acts of Philip the evangelist very clearly mentions water baptism. It cannot honestly be confused with the baptism of the Holy Spirit (v. 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.). Another example with the eunuch (Acts 8:26-40). “v.35 Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus.” And what happens then; “36 As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, “Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized?” [37] [c] 38 And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him.” My questions are, what in the message that Philip the evangelist, preached in his gospel led these different people to be baptized? What place did baptism occupy in his preaching of the good news? Why did Peter still command Cornelius and his house (not babies, but repentant believers) to be baptized, even though they had already received the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:48)? And that thrilling passage (Acts 18:24-19:7) “18:24 Meanwhile a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was a learned man, with a thorough knowledge of the Scriptures. 25 He had been instructed in the way of the Lord, and he spoke with great fervor and taught about Jesus accurately, though he knew only the baptism of John. 26 He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately. (…) 19:1 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed? ”They answered, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” 3 So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?” “John’s baptism,” they replied. 4 Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” 5 On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied. 7 There were about twelve men in all.” Why does Paul not just leave them like that, since they have already obviously repented(19:4) and believed (19:2)? Why does he continue with another water baptism and the laying on of hands so that they may receive the Holy Spirit? In conclusion, I think deeply in my heart that water baptism should be part of evangelism. Just as much as repentance in fruits and active faith, “Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved” (Mark 16:16; Jesus adds that not believing is enough to be condemned - implying that baptism without faith cannot save, which includes all ritual infant baptisms, or other rituals performed according to traditions). For me it's the general rule. While not excluding the Sovereign exceptions that confirm the rule. Blessings in Christ.
I'm so tired of Bible authors being so weird in the way they say things. If you wanted to say "Not as though you were removing your SINS with water, but it's the plea to God for a good conscience," then why not just say that? Why did you say "dirt"? That isn't at all helpful to the question you raised! Why not just say what you mean? This is actually leading me to reconsider whether or not baptism is necessary for salvation. I'm actually less certain that it isn't after listening to this.
Romans 6:3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? Romans 6:4 Therefore we have been buried with him by baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. 1 Corinthians 1:13 Has Christ been divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? 1 Corinthians 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 1 Corinthians 1:15 so that no one can say that you were baptized in my name. 1 Corinthians 1:16 (I did baptize also the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized anyone else.) 1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize but to proclaim the gospel, and not with eloquent wisdom, so that the cross of Christ might not be emptied of its power. 1 Corinthians 10:2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 1 Corinthians 12:13 For in the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-Jews or Greeks, slaves or free-and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:29 Otherwise, what will those people do who receive baptism on behalf of the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized on their behalf? Galatians 3:27 As many of you as were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. Ephesians 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, Colossians 2:12 when you were buried with him in baptism, you were also raised with him through faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead. Hebrews 6:2 instruction about baptisms, laying on of hands, resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgement. Hebrews 9:10 but deal only with food and drink and various baptisms, regulations for the body imposed until the time comes to set things right. 1 Peter 3:21 And baptism, which this prefigured, now saves you-not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
So when God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, Abraham believed him in the moment. Early the next day he set out, he walked for three days, he set up an alter, he had Isaac lie on the alter. God stopped him at the last moment and that’s when it was credited to hill s as righteousness. The act was necessary not simply the faith. If you go skydiving, and you have faith that the parachute will save you and jump out of the plane full of faith but never pull the rip cord you’re going to go splat. You have to act on your faith
At the point when his faith was credited to him as righteousness it was long before he even had Issac. Different time in his life. His faith was credited to him as righteousness, not his obedience in being willing to sacrifice his son.
@@daniela.santander4637 Read the whole chapter. Faith and works are not separated. They are two sides of the same coin. Baptism is similar to all of the actions listed in Hebrews 11 except the work of Baptism is declared absolutely to save us. 1 Peter 3:21. Of course Baptism is a work of Christ, not man. We receive it from Christ. No one can baptize themselves, and after it is received we must continue to seek our Lord by faith and works lest we fail to complete the race. 2 Tim 4:7.
It’s like asking if obedience is necessary to be a Christian. There is a spiritual birth that happens when we are baptized. We are born into the kingdom of God.
THE BIBLE SAYS BAPTISM PLACES US “IN CHRIST ” Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Colossians 3:2 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Totally agree. I believe in the New Testament we are now baptized through the Holy Spirit in Christ. Paul converted thousands of people without the ritual of Baptism. He did it only once in one of the church house when requested of him.
Keep it simple. The thief on the cross wasn't baptized but met the Lord in Heaven that very day. Neither was he baptized in the Holy Spirit. So that throws the Pentecostal Holiness doctrine out the window.
@juan sebastian Diaz The Holy Spirit is merely the Comforter, not the Savoir. The means for salvation is belief and repentance. The Baptism is a bonus.
Not really..the thief was under Law, before Jesus's death and resurrection. Then Jesus said it is finished...the bold covenant is now past and the new has now begun.
Pastor John explains baptism very well. It seems many comments here, are expressing their views, without listening to this message. I’d say, focus on this message, and then heed.
We don't need water to be justified and we don't need water to be sanctified. I wonder when the church is finally going to transition to the fullness of the NEW COVENANT where there is no need for any sacrament done on the flesh (natural realm). This is were CHRIST IS ALL in all. Regeneration is my only baptism.
"Regeneration is my only baptism." Cool. But it wasn't Paul's only baptism. Or Peter, James, John and the rest of the apostles'. It wasn't the early church's only baptism. "There is no need for any sacrament..." Put down the tomes of systematic theology, and pick up the New Testament. You'll find a lot less platonism in there. Cheers.
(Acts 2:38) is the "Gospel", the "Good News", and what we must ALL obey, in order for us to be saved. That's our DEATH - (REPENTANCE), our BURIAL - (BAPTISM **IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST**), and our RESURRECTION (receiving the HOLY GHOST.) That's our only New Testament "Born-Again" experience, that we MUST ALL OBEY! (Acts 2:38) is the Gospel that Jesus calls us by (in real time), in order to enter the Kingdom. But in eternity past, we who are called, chosen and elected... We're already called, chosen and elected from (before the foundation of the world.)
When the thief was on the cross, Jesus was there beside him - obviously. According to Mark 2:10 ("But that you may know, the Son of Man has authority on Earth to forgive sins), Jesus could forgive that man's sins because Jesus was alive then. It's just like if I had a car (forgiveness of sins in this analogy), I could give it to anyone I wanted while I was alive, but as soon as I die, people would have to look at my will (the Bible in Jesus's case) to see who gets it (everyone) what to do to get the car (belief, repent, confess that Jesus is the Lord, be baptised and live a faithful life). Also, the thief was saved before Jesus died on the cross, meaning it was still the Old Covenant, and not relevant to us today. It's just like sacrificing lambs - we don't do it anymore because Jesus died on the cross.
Grace Jesus is still alive and is the same yesterday, today and forever Hebrews 13:8.. No true believer would refuse to do the first commandment that Jesus gave us to do which is baptism. He who believes and is baptized will be saved.Saint Peter commanded that all the household of Cornelius be baptized after they were filled with the Holy Spirit Acts 10:48
God is not stupid to ask us to be baptized in water in order to be saved. We can be baptized even by the holy spirit through repentance and willingness to turn our hearts to god
Paul teaches in Ephesians 4:5 that there is one baptism. We know from Matthew 3:11 that Jesus baptized with the Holy Spirit, and later on in Matthew 28:19 we are commanded by Jesus to baptize all people on earth. Jesus baptized with the Holy Spirit, (Luke 3:16), so that leaves only one choice left. The "one baptism" of scripture must therefore be the baptism of the Great Commission.
THE BIBLE SAYS IT'S IN WATER 1 Peter 3:20-21 (20) Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. (21) The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: Mark 1:9-10 (9) And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. (10) And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: Acts 8:38-39 (38) And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. (39) And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing
Based on Luke 3:16, and Acts 11:15-16, and Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27, the most important thing about the word "baptism" in the New Testament, has nothing to do with water. What were they baptized with in that passage? Unfortunately, many Christians see water every time they read the word "baptized". Nobody should ever be baptized in water without an explanation of the baptism of the Spirit found in Luke 3:16. In John chapter 3 Christ explained to Nicodemus, that a person must be "born again" of the Spirit of God, in order to inherit the kingdom of God.
Thanks a lot man, a lot of people in these comment section don't get it, i was baptized of water before but i was not saved, i was living an immoral lifestyle. Until i got baptized of the Holy spirit and accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior in my heart, then i was totally changed from the inside out. I stopped lusting and the holy spirit is helping me each day to live a Holy life. That''s why Jesus said that on the day of Judgement many will come to me and say LORD LORD, we did signs and miracles and great works in your name but Jesus will say DEPART FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS, it was because they were living a sinful lifestyle and they taught their works will get them into heaven, No you've got to be baptized of the spirit to Stay away from all sinful desires. But i also believe that Water Baptism is a symbolical way of saying you want to totally surrender your life for Jesus and follow him and i also think it's very important to be baptized of water too, But that's not what get you saved. We are Saved by Grace through our Faith in Christ Jesus, then we'll receive the holy spirit to help us on our walk with Christ.
This is so false realize Paul in Ephesus a was talking to people he had personally baptized so when he says you were baptized in the spirit when you believed he is talking to people who received the gospel who he baptized with water and then laid hands for them to receive the Holy Ghost.
@@lancelewis3368 1Co 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; 1Co 1:15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. 1Co 1:16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. 1Co 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. ,
I would add John 3:38 says the opposite of belief isn't unbelief rather disobedience. If I believe ill obey. There is so much I could say about the holes in what he says and I love John Piper so much, but he is so wrong and doesn't see. May God have mercy on us all! Signed a Calvinist turned Catholic. Look up a guy named Scott Hahn.
Obedience= Faith Heb. 3 16 For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses? 17 Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? 18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey? 19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Is it not natural for us humans? We want to live in families. Our nature is that way. You have children and you love and worry about them,,,, by natural law, God's law. The rituals are nothing.
Heck yeah it does! If you read Rom 6 and Col 2:11,12 and take them literally, you will see that baptism does indeed save - it saves you from the power of sin and through it you are regenerated. Note that Piper, being Calvinist, cannot accept that baptism causes regeneration because Calvinists believe regeneration is given by God in order for a person to have faith. But the scriptures teach that faith precedes baptism which precedes regeneration.
Baptism doesn't save us. Faith in Christ saves, or grace of God through faith in Christ alone. But that being said, if we have been justified by faith in Chrisr, I believe we ought to be baptized to make that declaration of faith and show the world we are not ashamed.
juan sebastian Diaz you are probably either a oneness heretic or a Stone-Campbellite. Either way, your salvation is works based and you will surely fail. Turn from your works and trust in Christ.
@juan sebastian Diaz im not arguing but let me ask you this, someone that believes that Jesus is the Son of God, the Christ, the Holy Spirit comes into them, indwelling them, changing them, if they do not get baptized, they are going to Hell? So the person who does believe truly but does not get baptized isnt actually saved by the grace of God through faith alone in Christ and His redemptive work on the cross, this man is just delusional? You are only saved by grace through faith in Christ if you then get baptized?
@juan sebastian Diaz in acts the Holy Spirit fell on the gentiles when they heard and believed Peter's msg or Christ before baptism. Paul told the jailer when he said tell me how to be saved, "believe in the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved." Now I know both were baptized after that and I am not saying that we should be baptized but I am saying that we are saved by Gods grace through faith in Christ alone, baptism comes after belief and the Holy Spirit comes into our lives. I'm not saying we shouldn't bebaptized, I believe we should but I am saying that to me and what I read overall is that believing in Christ is what saves us. The book of John Jesus tells us over and over to believe in Him. John 3:16, whosoever believes...
@juan sebastian Diaz I do - and I trust the WHOLE counsel of His word. And the common thread of salvation is not baptism, but FAITH. Turn from the self-righteous works of the Stone-Campbell/Oneness movement and trust in Christ.
who feels it know it more i felt my aelf waterbaptism was crying in luv so so much and repentant many emotions rifht as i came up out of the water Halleluyah!!!
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles? 1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying. ua-cam.com/video/KVvY_AGVDgQ/v-deo.html
Hm Mark 16:16 is like Believe + Baptise = Saved , Unbelieve + Unbabtised = Unsaved (obviously) , Unbelieve + Baptise = Unsaved !! , Believe + Unbabtise = ? the last conclusion is not really answered in Mark 16:16 in my opinion. But I tend to have a similar opinion on that as John Piper does. If it's possible the bible really prompts you to be baptized in water. But if it's not possible, for example, someone who turns to Jesus and believes on the death bed just goes to heaven as the thief on the cross did. Otherwise, if you still obligate it in such situations it really fast goes into lovelessness, in some catholic cultures, it was common to cut open a childbearing woman at any practical area of the body just to "rescue" a child by baptizing it before it dies. Otherwise, it would go into hell the women always bled to death that just though law without love and to me pretty much Jesus' parable of the cow which stuck in the fountain on the sabbath.
I can believe that something written in the Bible is true without believing that I should do that something. When the Bible implicitly gives a command to every man, I must believe it and obey it (James 1:17-22). But the Bible contains more than commands to be followed today, for example, commands to individuals. When God commanded Noah to build an ark, that instruction was not meant for every Christian (Genesis 6:14). Why? Because the flood had already come. There is no need to build an ark today. Likewise, the purpose for miracles has ended: Jesus already proved He is the Son of God; the Bible is complete; and there are no more apostles; therefore, we don’t need miracles and Christians today are not subject to Mark 16:17-18. We must believe, because it is scripture, that the believers were authenticated by miracles in the first century. However I must not believe that these miracles are for me to prove my faith because the word of God and my works prove my faith for me (Romans 10:17, James 2:17-20).
We are spirit soul and body. Our spirit is saved our soul is being saved and our bodies will be redeemed and we will be like Jesus. When we call on Jesus believing with our whole being and deciding to follow Jesus for our lifetime then we become a child of god . No true believe in Jesus will refuse to do his first commandment to be baptized. Baptism always followed immediately after believing and repentance.and is always full immersion. Saint Peter commanded all the believers in Cornelius household to be baptized in water or into Jesus act 10:48.
It’s amazing why Protestants and Catholics will not even be obedient to Jesus first commandment which is He that believes and is baptized will be saved. They put more trust in mans traditions than what Jesus said. A Protestant is really a reformed Catholic but we have to go back to the apostles doctrines in the Acts church. We’ve to skip the rubbish that has gone on since Constantine and obey Jesus. Be living stones of the spiritual temple as we come to Jesus 1 Peter 2:4. He that believes and is baptized will be saved Mark 16;16. Saint Peter commanded all the the spirit filled believers in Cornelius house to be baptized in water which is full immersion
We dont need to be baptized by water as a compulsion . Baptism to according to the bible is repentance and a willing heart to change towards god. Ur heart is what matter not what's outside
Teckson// Thevibranium what did Jesus say? He that believes and is baptized will be saved. Mark 16:16.If a person refuses to do Jesus first commandment how will he do the greater works mentioned in John 14:12. Saint Peter commanded the believers in Cornelius house to be baptized after they were born again and filled with the Holy Spirit. . You are right you maybe saved and go to heaven without being baptized but why would you ignore what Jesus commanded? Baptism always followed immediately after believing and repentance and was always full immersion in water (because it is a burial of your old man Romans 6:2-6.)The Holy Spirit baptizes us into Christ body in baptism 1 Corinthians 12:13.using other believers or disciples who know what baptism is. There are no symbols or rituals in the New covenant for Christ Jesus is the substance Colossians 2:17. Go and get baptized like the 3000 believers did in Acts 2:41.without argument. Jesus knows best.All blessings from Ireland. Torben on youtube is great teacher on baptism.
In Acts 2:38 Peter is addressing Jews....not Gentiles. The instruction was to be baptized first, then receive the holy spirit. But let's remember that the Book of Acts is historical narrative and teaches a transition from the OT salvation for the Jews to the NT salvation to both Jews and Gentiles. Why did it go form just Jews to now Jews and Gentiles? Because the Jews rejected their kingdom and cut themselves off from it until the end time tribulation. Their rejection of the kingdom opened the door for the Gentiles and Paul received a new revelation of the Gospel that provided Jews an opportunity to still get saved while providing Gentiles salvation. This new revelation Paul received is salvation by Grace through Faith apart from the law of Moses. Acts 13:39; Romans 4:5-12; Ephesians 2:8-9 SEE THE DIFFERENCE? JESUS to Jews: Faith and obedience to the law is imputed as righteousness. Matthew 7:21-23; Luke 6:26 PAUL to Gentiles: Faith apart from obedience to the law is imputed as righteousness. Acts 13:39; Romans 4:5-12; Ephesians 2:8-9 The first Gentiles who were saved came 9 years after Acts 2:38 and Cornelius received the holy spirit before he was baptized in Jesus name. There was no water present, so Peter asks the Jews that were with him a rhetorical question: would anyone deny them water to be baptized? It's rhetorical because there is no water. Of course no one would deny them water if they could have because they already witnessed Cornelius receive the holy spirit....so why would they deny him water for baptism....IF THERE WAS WATER....which there wasn't. So Cornelius and his household were baptized into Jesus name. They were in someone's house...there was no body of water to baptize anyone. In Act 22:16 Paul is recalling his conversion experience in Acts 9 in which the scales fell from his eyes in Acts 9:17-18. Paul receives the spirit in verse 17 by the laying on of hands. Then it states that Paul got up and was Baptized. They were in someone's house....there was no body of water there. This couldn't have been water Baptism. Paul was Baptized into Jesus name without water. We do know Paul received the spirit before being baptized into the name of Jesus. I examined all the Baptisms that take place in the Book of Acts and I can say for certain there is no set pattern for Baptism that one can take as a ritual or ordnance for all times. Using Acts as a basis for Church Age doctrines that apply to the Body of Christ is a recipe for heresy. Water Baptism was for the Jews....not for the Gentiles. The Book of Acts teaches us about a transition that took place from Peter's Gospel for the Jews to Paul's Gospel for both Jews and Gentiles. The transition is marked by Paul's preaching in Acts 13 and throughout the rest of Acts. Acts 13:39 contains a message from Paul that none of the Twelve Apostles preached in Acts. Salvation became faith apart from works of the law for the first time in Acts 13:39 Prior to that, salvation was by faith plus works of the law. Four years after Acts 13:39 Paul told Peter about the revelation of the Gospel he received (see Acts 15). Then in Acts 21, another 8 years later, we still find the remaining Eleven Apostles are teaching Jews obedience to the law of Moses. Paul does not teach water Baptism. Paul teaches ONE BAPTISM ONLY....and it's the spirit baptism that takes place when a person believes (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). If water baptism saves, then Jesus died for nothing and Paul is a liar. Now tell me what you believe about Baptism.
The salvation started with the Jews my friend, then to the Gentile read Acts 10 the First Gentile to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and received his spirit. In the house of a Italian man
Do you not understand that the word "FAITH" is a verb in the ancient Greek text? "BELIEVE" is an umbrella word that includes FAITH, BAPTISM AND OBEDIENCE.
JESUS Anchor of my SOUL KatherineT this was a baptism of repentance but it wasn’t being baptized into Jesus Acts 19 explains this. Nobody could be baptized into Jesus until Jesus had died and buried and risen and ascended
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles? 1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying. ua-cam.com/video/KVvY_AGVDgQ/v-deo.html
Only jesus can give you salvation, its good to be baptized but its not going to get you to heaven, your salvation comes through jesus christ and jesus christ alone.
Perfect: baptism is an expression of faith. However, we must affirm that the expression of your faith made by God is the receiving of the Holy Spirit. In Acts 20, Paul encounters two men who were baptized but who lacked the Holy Spirit. They were baptized again in the name of Jesus and in doing so they received the Holy Spirit. They were baptized yet they had never “heard” of Jesus. Faith comes by hearing
Is not water baptism a symbol of getting washed from the lies and doctrines and ideas of truth that you tainted yourself with in the world? You must do what John the Baptist says. Make the roads straight. Repent. Empty your cup. Be clean like a little child. Stop claim to know God. Stop profess to be wise.
@@LevaISanningen actually, no. It is not as you profess, "...a symbol of getting washed from the lies and doctrines and ideas of truth that you tainted yourself with in the world."
@@astheskylarksings... No? So you should run around claiming to know it all? Pointing your finger at everybody, calling them bad? Is that Christ? Is that being humble?
@@LevaISanningen Well, only if you assume that not being washed as you describe results in claiming to know it all, pointing fingers, and calling people bad. But I think that is false equivalency. As for Christ and humility, it takes a large amount of humility to profess oneself "saved" in the name of Jesus Christ. I can't imagine someone being able to profess that who is not humbled first. At the same time, humility is a life-long journey
@@astheskylarksings .... humility is a life-long journey!!! Amen to that. It is a walk with God. And walking in darkness seems to be a part of that walk. You see, GOD dwells in thick darkness. You have to get dirty when you look for gold. Gods Kingdom is like a treasure, hidden in a mans field. Like a light seen only in darkness. If you or me are walking in darkness now,,, then it is all ok.
The scripture says Except a man be born in water and spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God..so water baptism is one factor to be consider inorder to be save
If you read the next verse my friend, it explains what Christ meant by being born if water. He was speaking of being born into this world by water, and being born again by the Holy Spirit. That was the main topic of discussion in the conversation between Christ and Nicodemus, being born again. God bless you.
Acts 1:5 is talking to the apostoles. They were going to be baptized w the H.S. so they can know the gospel and talk in different tongues which is languages so they can preach it to all the different nations present at Pentacost. The apostoles then preached water baptism for remission of sins just as Christ commanded them to. Mat 28:19 Mark 16:16 Luke 24:45-47. Acts 2:36-38,41,47. God bless
Then salvation is works. How can a person lying in the hospital bed hours from his death be saved? So even if he accepted the gospel repented, and put his trust in Jesus Christ، he would still be unsaved? What about the thief on the cross? So the work of Christ is not complete, it requires your act of getting into the water to get saved?
@@perrytheplatypus7661 "Then salvation is by works." No one believes that baptism is a meritorious act that can obligate God to save you. Baptism is God's work in the sinner, not the sinner's work. I also find this argument ironic because baptism is very easy. You don't do anything except let someone else dunk you in water. Faith, however, is very hard because it goes against our sin nature. If baptism is a work, faith would have to be a work too. "How can a person lying in a hospital bed hours from his death be saved?" Historically immersion has been the preferred method of baptism, but pouring was considered acceptable in cases where immersion was impossible (see, for example, an early church document called the Didache). "So even if he accepted the gospel [and] repented, and put his trust in Jesus Christ, would he still be unsaved?" The baptismal regeneration position acknowledges God's mercy in cases where baptism was truly impossible. But even if God decided to damn everyone who never received baptism, would you be able to accuse him of being unjust? If not, then you have no argument, because that's the worst case scenario. "What about the thief on the cross?" The command to baptize was given to the apostles in the great commission, which was AFTER the thief's death. No one believes that all people for all time needed baptism. It is only for the post-pentacost age of the church. "So the work of Christ is not complete, it requires your act of getting into the water to get saved?" Any argument that can be turned around and used against you as well is not a good argument. One could just as easily say, "So you think the work of Christ is incomplete, because it requires your faith?" And then you're stuck with universalism. Everyone who's not a Universalist puts some kind of prerequisite on salvation. That doesn't mean the work of Christ is incomplete. It just means that God has chosen a particular means of salvation. To conclude, I think this question is usually asked incorrectly. The correct question is not whether baptism is necessary or not, because even those who accept baptismal regeneration believe that it is possible in some cases to be saved without it, baptism is just the ORDINARY means of regeneration. The correct question is what happens in baptism--nothing, or a miracle of regeneration? I've been reading a lot of early church writings lately, and I haven't found one church father who didn't believe in baptismal regeneration. See, for example, "On Baptism" by Tertullian, "On the Lapsed" by Cyprian, and "Chatechetical Lectures" by Cyril of Jerusalem.
@@perrytheplatypus7661 bruuuhhhhh. if God can create the whole world, send a flood and bring us into existence he can get someone to some water to be baptised. and bro mark 2:10 Jesus had the power to forgive sin while here on earth, even on the cross. and yes Baptism is an act but its an act of God (col 2:12) please ask for my DM if you really want to talk about this, because id love to chat
Yes, the 'Jesus' in Mormonism is not at all the true Jesus of the Bible (the one that's truly saves sinners from sin and death and brings about within us newness of life). Now that you've come to know the true Christ, I'd highly recommend you be re-baptized in accordance to Jesus' instructions in Matt. 28:19. For "there is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your callings; one Lord, one faith, one BAPTISM, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all." (Eph. 4:4-6)
Robert Carter 1Peter 2:24 He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin. Hebrews 9:22 Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness THE DEATH OF THE SINNER 2 Timothy 2:11 If we have died with Him, we will also live with Him Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ Jesus died literally on the cross to pay the judicial price for our sins. The sinner died representatively through Jesus, this paying our judicial price for sin. OUR SIN CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNLESS we have died with Christ. We are united with Christ in His death. We have been crucified with Christ. We have died to sin. When does God view you as United with Christ in His death? Crucified with Christ? When in your faith do you die to sin and die with Christ? Romans 6:3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Vs 4 We have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. John 3:5 Unless one is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 2 Corinthians 5:17 if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature. Acts 2:37-38 Now when they heard this they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles. Brethren what shall we do? Peter said to them Repent and each one of you be baptized FOR the remission of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Matthew 28: 19-20 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo I am with you always, even to the end of the age.Mark 16:16 Jesus said He who believes AND is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned
The Bible commands everyone to be baptized in more than one location but in the Book of Acts which tells the facts of the beginning of Christianity, Jesus told them after His crucifixion to go to a certain location and wait for further spiritual instruction. The Holy Ghost baptism occurred and the people in the surrounding area asked what was happening. Peter explained that the fulfillment of the plan of salvation was happening and they asked what must they do to be saved and he told them what they must do, Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized in Jesus Name and they shall receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost. So repent, be baptized in water, receive Holy Ghost (Spirit). Other places in the Bible it specifically says believers are to be baptized and those whom believe do not will be damned. Jesus Himself was baptized and He is our Example.
SD amen. This is Jesus first commandment. Believe and be baptized. Babies are never baptized but believers only.and baptism always happens immediately after believing and is always full immersion into water (Christ Jesus)
Why wouldn’t you want to Baptized? Jesus was Baptized, Piper knows nothing, that analogy he made up sounded stupid, and made no sense! A true bible teacher is Mike Desario teaching on U - Tube.
@@christrescuedme2182 The Bible was not compiled into a continuous form at that time for one thing, but primarily the Church had not been established since the sacrifice at the time of Jusus ' declaration had not been completed or the resurrection. The thief died under the covenant of the Old Testament at that time and the actions which were happening at that moment. Jesus the man is the Son of God with the Spirit of God Incarnate. The Baptism of the Holy Ghost as a part of the New Covenant was not initiated until the upper room experience later which established the New Testament Church. The thief was forgiven through his repentance which Jesus as God could see. God looks on the heart while man looks on the outward appearance. You are trying to place the thief on the cross experience into a different covenant.
Saved, justified and being united to Christ is the same when used in the context of salvation. That is when we believe. Baptism does not save, it is simply the answer of a good conscience toward God.
@@LevaISanningen Speak for yourself. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ. Those who are in Christ reflect the words of Christ, and his word are far from filthy.
@@astheskylarksings.. Ok. Well, I don't like to uplift myself and claim to be filled with a better spirit than others. I don't know if I am saved. It is not for my lips to say so. I let someone else praise me, if I ever deserved it.
@@LevaISanningen You say you don't "know." Faith is higher than knowledge. Having faith in what Jesus did on the cross is more than enough reason for you to profess yourself saved. And glory to God that we don't profess it because we "know" it; we, instead, profess it from our faith. As for you, I think I have you pegged, and I say this to you, if you think that your conduct (your sin) can overpower the grace of God and the invitation to be a son or daughter of God then you're right, for you are still speaking and thinking as one under the law. But if, instead, you abide in the truth, which is our conduct comes nowhere near to affecting grace and that grace abounds then you can be freed from the guilt and shame that you are currently steeped in. But don't forget that guilt and shame for it will keep you walking in repentance instead of turning away.
Paul said: For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: The thief on the cross asked Jesus to simply remember me when you enter into your kingdom- Jesus didn't require him to be baptized. Salvation is a person, with nothing to do with water.
Jesus was baptized. So if we are going to follow Him we need to be baptized. Acts 2:38 it's part of the process. It's that simple. We are told to be baptized for the remission of our sins so why wouldn't we do it. Plus baptism is not a work because you're not baptizing yourself. There are plenty of scriptures that say be baptized so don't put it on the back burner. If you're able to get baptized and not hanging on a cross then do it. Jesus was baptized you need to be to.
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles? 1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying. ua-cam.com/video/KVvY_AGVDgQ/v-deo.html
What of those who will be left behind and come to Christ after the rapture? Or those in prison? Disabled? How are they to be baptized?? 🤔 Don’t add to the text. We are saved by grace through faith.
Jesus said if you love me you will keep my commandments (John 14:15), the word of God says repent and get baptized. Jesus is the Word of God, so if you love Him then just do what He says, we can trust Him!
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Here is what the scripture says... This is the conversion of the Eunuch... The eunch asked what doth hinder me to be baptized... If you believe then you may and he confessed Jesus as the son of God and he was baptized. Little babies are not capable of understanding. You can read the ingredients on the back of your shampoo to a baby depending on how you say it... depends on the reaction you get from them. You can't be baptized unto God by hearing lies about him. How can they hear unless there is someone to speak it to them the bible says. Infant baptism is at the very best ineffectual.
In what book was the New Testament Church Birthed? It was Conceived in the Gospels and Birthed in one book only and that was in the book of Acts to the Jews, Acts 2: 37-38 Samaritans 1yr later in Acts 8:12-17 the Gentiles 8yrs later Acts 10: 44-48 Religious people Baptized under John the Baptist were rebaptized in Jesus Name 22yrs later in Acts 19: 1-7. In every EXAMPLE they were all Baptized (Only Believing is not Salvation but part of it) there is no example of a sinner only believing and being saved. John 3 Nicodemus asked and Jesus said no man will enter Into the kingdom unless your are BORN AGAIN of the Water and the Spirit. The Gospel is not only Believing but it is fulfilled by the Death Burial and Resurrection. There is no example in the whole Bible of not One Soul being added to the New Testament Church by just believing. The only example is in the book of Acts. Not in any of the Gospels or Epistles. Mark 16: 15-16 clearly says that if you dont believe and are not Baptized you are damned this is the Great Commission in another words BAPTISM IS VERY NECESSARY. Why do people make it hard to understand it is so simple and in chronological order The end of every Gospel book Mathew Mark Luke and John Commands this because this is the very purpose why Jesus came. It points to Acts where the New Testament Church is Birthed. The Epistles dont even apply to you until you go thru ACTS the Epistles are to the Churches already established and confirmed the book of Acts. We are buried with Jesus and take on his name in Baptism. If you only believe it is a good thing but you must finish in Repentance/ Death in Burial/ Baptism and Resurrection/ Holy Spirit as a new Creature in christ we must put on Christ thru the Holy Ghost bearing Fruit and strive to obtain the Gifts of the Spirit. Jesus is the Old Testament Tabernacle do t you k ow that the Alter of Sacrifice is a type of Repentance and the Brazen Alter of water is Baptism you can not enter I to the court untill the Blood of your sacrifice is washed before you put on a new spotless robe. The Veil was ripped from top to bottom so we can communicate with the Almighty himself. This only believing and saying a sinners Prayer is unbiblical and incomplete for basic Salvation. No one gives credit to the book of Acts and no where in the Bible does it say that it is only to the Apostolic Age Church. It is still a commandment and applies today. Who gave anyone authority to even suggest that? The Bible needs not to defend itself, because it is the living word of God. So I say where I'd this Doctrine of only believe and you are saved co e from? TV Evangelist because they could not physically Baptize a person they would tell them to put their hand o. The screen and repeat these words (sinners prayer) and that qualifies you as being saved. This took off and now it is considered as a truth. It is simply un biblical and deceiving. There isn't even any power well maybe for a week or two but no real saving power. Therefore I ask p,ease stop this false Doctrine of just saying or believing and your saved because it is unbiblical and false. Obey Acts 2:37-38
We all have sinned and fell short of the glory to God. The problem is, that God is holy and doesn’t live with sin. So we all deserve to go to hell, but Jesus paid the price so you don’t have to. All you have to do is confess Jesus as your savior and repent (turn from all sin) and you’ll can have eternal life.
What I have come to believe about Baptism: 1) Does the physical act alone save you? NO, without faith it is no different than recreation or diving in a swimming pool. 2) Are we saved by faith alone? YES, with saving faith being defined as having a repentant heart. 3) Is the refusal to be baptized a sign of a lack of faith? VERY POSSIBLY I know some "professing christians" that have never been baptized: 1) One group very much wants to be, but for circumstances or ignorance have never done it. 2) The other group has no desire or intention to be baptized, and actually argues against the necessity of it. Now why would any sincere believer not want to be baptized? I don't think they would, so I would question the sincerity of their belief. This is one reason I believe baptism is important. It marks a definable line in the sand that separates group #1 from group #2. As Pastor John said, it is an outward expression of an internal faith. While many will make easy verbal professions of faith, fewer people are willing to make that outward physical expression. Does anyone doubt the thief on the cross would readily be baptized had he the physical ability to do so? Of course he would . I don't think we should play the game of trying to deconstruct Peter's instructions to Repent and Be Baptized. Instead, just OBEY it.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Yes, it is belief. Abraham believed and it was counted unto him as righteousness.
Mark 16 vs 15and 16 makes it abundantly clear a person is saved after baptism.
So why wasn't baptism mentioned in the last part of the verse? Only belief was mentioned. di@@leewheeler3131
1 corintiers 15 1:6. Not a word on batism. Ejrn you believevupu get baptist bij the holy spirit. Its the second birth. First birth is of water ( from your mother whom).
@@leewheeler3131and 15? And don’t forget 16 again
I became born again after I prayed for repentance and forgiveness of my sins, with in minutes I felt like a brand new person. It was amazing!!!!😊
Me too my friend. God is Good and graceful.
Amen ...and ur life changes as well.
Still amazing?
Praise the Lord.
@@libbydaddy8610 Thanks for the laugh. God bless you 🙏
One morning I got up reborn and with a new life force and a view of myself and the world around me. The Holy Spirit descended on me after 1 week of sincere search for Jesus Christ, after years of madness with new age deception. 🙌🙏
We'd love to have you in the private FB group Reformed New Agers in Christ. It's a group for ex-new agers that are now Christians. Personally, I feel so much love and support from believers that dealt with the same madness! God bless you for escaping the deception!
The Holy Spirit does not wait to dwell in you. It is immediately after baptism. Acts 2:38
I was recently deeply troubled while asking myself this exact question just a few days ago. I let God lead me and I found your channel and this video. Thank you for sharing and being a messenger for God. I have been blessed by his sacrifice for my soul and his loving guidance to return to him. Amen.
@Carlie Trogicj He does, because that's what Christ taught.
Scripture is very clear: Baptism _is_ necessary: it links us to Christ's own baptism, without which we would NOT participate in his death and resurrection.
Immersion is God's timing of salvation ...
I agree with exactly what you said !! Thank you for your posting. It's exactly what I was thinking.
Dear friend, if you're not baptized, and have placed your trust in Jesus for the forgiveness of your sins, get baptized. It is a step of obedience to Christ. You are saved by faith in Christ, but as a believer you're called to be baptized as an identification with Jesus as your Lord in His death, burial, and resurrection. Don't let it get complicated.
@¿Eres Cristiano? born of water is physical birth
It's still simple, if you live the same life you did before you met Jesus you are NOT saved. If you repented and reject sin and believe in Jesus you are saved
This is false all you have to do is believe. Nice try to add works to salvation another John MacArthur and Paul Washer puppet.
@@peskeyfly4688 I think it's important to remember that even demons have belief in God and they tremble. Even though they believe, they are not saved. It talks about the inadequacy of only belief, without seeing an actual change in your actions in James chapter 2.
Also, It'd be good to read over 1 John chapter 1 and 2, where John talks about how even if we say we are believers, if we have hatred in our hearts and we are not following Jesus' commands to love, then we are still in spiritual darkness. John also says not to love the world or anything in the world. "If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in him."
These are really difficult principles and I am not living them out 100% in my own life. Luckily, John says in chapter 2 that "I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father- Jesus Christ, the righteous one." So the presence of sin in one's life is not condemning, but the conviction of sin that we experience is an act of the Holy Spirit in our lives.
Paul also urges us in Romans 12 not to be conformed to the pattern of the world, but be transformed by the renewing of our minds. This renewing is also done by God.
I agree with you that we are saved by our faith, and there is no work that can save us, because even are best works are as filthy rags to God, like it says in Isaiah 64 and Romans 10. However, even though we are only saved by the faith that God gives us, good works are proof that faith has taken root in our hearts, and therefore we can read and trust the words of Christ when he says, "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them."
If someone says they are saved but are not convicted of their own sin and empowered to fight against it by the Spirit, then they need to consider the condition of their relationship with Jesus.
@@lucaskaufman1725 demons cant be saved Jesus didn't die for them. That's what lordship salvation followes us to makes excuses for good works nobody lives good not one single person on this earth by Gods standards.
@@peskeyfly4688 I am in no way arguing for the potential salvation of demons, I am making the argument, along with James, that someone can come to a knowledge that God exists, and Jesus is the anointed Messiah, but until they come to an understanding of the truth, they will be whisked away by various passions like the women mentioned in 2 Timothy chapter 3, and may not actually be saved. I agree with Paul that none are righteous, no not one, but it would be incomplete to say that there is no distinction between a loving act and a selfish act. If we act out of love, which is only possible by the Holy Spirit, then we are saved; not because of the work itself but by the Spirit which gives us the desire both TO WILL and TO ACT in order to fulfill His good purpose, like it says in Philippians 2:13.
Lucas Kaufman no, sorry. Jesus died for the salvation of man. Demons can _believe_ in Jesus-heck, even if they could admit they were a sinner in need of a savior and it would never gain them eternal salvation because the blood shed of Christ was for humans. Not demons.
What they believe is irrelevant.
Ephesians 2:8
"FOR BY GRACE ARE YOU SAVED THROUGH FAITH, & THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES,. IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD." Amen.
You use that verse to justify not being baptized. That is a result of lack of study. When Paul wrote that, the Ephesians were already baptized. Acts 19 tells you the Ephesians were baptized. You cannot get around baptism for salvation. They already obeyed the command of baptism. They needed to know about the grace of God!
@Kendrick Simms there are plenty of people here that believes it's not necessary for salvation. Another problem is equating baptism to work. Baptism has never been a work for man. It has always been a commandment. I don't refute we are justified by faith. We can't work our way to heaven. However, we do have to work because faith without works is dead.
@@jmcc-lt3lk You're justified by Jesus' blood through faith. Through faith, not through work, not through obey rite, obey commandments, work, deed, church attendance.. because nothing can save yourself except through faith. If you have faith the byproduct of that is good work. Good work is justification toward bro and sis. God looks at your heart.
JESUS SAVES
Christian Pfefferberg
From what? A nature that HE gave us? For forcing free will on us? For leading us into temptation?
And...tell that to all the innocent infants and toddlers that he drowned instead of just poofing them out of existence.
Mr. C Isaiah 55:8 God says “ My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts, and my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine. For just as the heavens are higher than the earth so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts higher than your thoughts.” Who are we to Judge our creator? Lol
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That’s the ultimate Christian cop out.
@@mr.c2485 If you're not invested in the topic directed towards believers, why contribute to the conversation?
Yes, though he saves us through his death and resurrection:
If we want to participate in his resurrection, we must be born-again in Christ... that is, *be baptized onto him.*
It isn't for nothing that he himself said: "no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit."
As someone who would say baptism is a necessary part of our sanctification, it isn’t because I don’t understand that it is by God’s grace, given freely to us though we did not deserve it and accepted by us through our genuine faith in His Son, Jesus the Christ, that saves us. My argument would instead be that one cannot claim to have genuine faith in Messiah Jesus if their response to His lordship does not include baptism. Pastor John mentions that it is something we should do as quickly as possible after coming to that salvific faith, but what if we don’t? What if we just never get around to being baptized? Jesus tell his apostles to make more disciples, baptizing and teaching them (Matt. 28:19). Peter says to repent and be baptized, not only for the forgiveness of sin but to receive the gift of God’s Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38). Paul mentions that at the point of his conversion Ananias asked him, “And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name”
(Acts 22:16). The water is not what does the saving, we can all accept that. But Jesus, the Incarnate Word, and Peter and Paul, apostles of Christ who spoke not by their own authority but by the inspiration of God’s Holy Spirit, all say to submit to baptism- not as a work of the flesh like we’re trying to earn our way into heaven, but as an obedient response to God’s work that He’s doing in our lives to justify and sanctify us. How can anyone claim to have an “inward change” if they don’t follow it up by being obedient to the words of Christ Jesus? Pastor John brought in Romans 4 and Colossians 2 talking about how Abraham was justified by his faith prior to being circumcised. But in James chapter 2, James uses the exact same event of Abraham being counted righteous according to his faith, but brings in the fact that Abraham followed up his faith by being circumcised and offering his son Isaac on the mountain to the Lord to show that Abraham’s faith was exemplified and made “alive” by acting on that faith. How can we claim to have faith in the Son of God, but then not live out that faith by being “baptized into a death like His?” (Romans 6:3). God gets to make the final call, but I can’t see how anyone could claim to have assurance in Christ if they began their relationship with Him by essentially saying, “nah, I don’t think that action you told me to do is ‘necessary’ for me and you to have a right relationship.” That’s like if your dream spouse showed up and said, “I want to be with you forever, all that I ask is that you be faithful, and as a sign of our love wear this ring,” and you responded with “I’ll totally be faithful to you, but I just don’t feel like wearing a ring is necessary and it seems like to do so is asking a lot of me.” Jesus isn’t asking for much at all- Have faith in Him as Lord of your life, and then get dunked.
100% agree
that's the thing. we think baptism is a show of obedience but isn't required
Nicely put brother.
Baptism doesn’t save you but a saved person would get baptized. So if your not baptized your not saved. Not because of the lack of baptism but the lack of obedience through baptism that is expected of a saved person.
So does baptism save you. Yes and No. It’s not the baptism but the obedience of being baptized.
@@flynnrider2871 yep
@@flynnrider2871 no
Remember Blood of Jesus Christ.That has all the power.The Blood of Jesus Christ is the power to save.
Amen brother
His shed blood is figurative for giving his life for us. The Bible teaches "life is in the blood."
And the blood is in the waters of baptism if it’s performed speaking the name of Jesus. That’s why baptism washes away sin (Acts 2:38; 22:16).
QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU: How come Paul did not baptize gentiles? 1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism.
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The blood is applied at baptism. Acts 22:16 ...ever time a person was converted in the book of acts they were baptized immediately...because there is a connection between believing and being baptized. It’s is faith with action behind it.
Thank you for answering this correctly, it’s by faith we are saved, not of works. Being baptized is and outward expression. It’s a lot of people that went in a dry devil and came out a wet one, but never believed!
Amen! By faith .. Romans 10:13... We give permission and confess that we are sinners. The crook on the cross didn't get water baptized. Amen 👍
Water baptism happens because someone has been saved. Water baptism doesn't save.
The recent coronation happened because Charles is now the King. The coronation didn't make Charles the King. Charles became the King when his mother - Queen Elizabeth the Second - died.
A coronation for William or George would be nonsense as neither of them are King.
@@jeffmichaels3155 Jesus had the power to forgive sin. Also, baptism is a participation in Jesus's death AND resurrection, which hadn't happened yet (Romans 6:1-4; Acts 2:38-41; Colossians 2:11-12)
What a great debate. Shows how diverse the church is these days.
Debating scripture helps our own understanding.
And *God Is Really Very Pleased* with the "diverse" church, Correct?
Not what I said so you're misunderstanding my comment.
@@graceambassador65 How would you interpret the seven churches in revelations? Yet all of them had something good which Jesus mentions he also finds shortcomings at all of them. Do you think there is the ultimate most bible true denomination/theology?
I don't want to relativize and say nothing is true or some nonsense like that.
But isn't it possible that in all theologies which truly base on the bible there are Christians which really believe in the lord? Live in his grace and will be in heaven one day?
Maybe they don't live their full potential through faith but yet they go into heaven through christ alone. We are prompted to call out false teaching yet there is also 1. Corinthians 13. Love in God's grace is always important.
I really believe people who say the gifts of the spirit don't exist anymore understand the bible false, they miss the opportunity of God's active wonder of any kind. And if I'm confronted with such teaching and the holy spirit urges me I will confront them. But still, I will meet them in heaven if they truly believe in Jesus.
For example, Protestants tend to generalize and condemn merciless all Catholics and Orthodox but they forget there were nearly 1000 years in which almost only those Christians existed on the whole earth, with the exception of some isolated monasteries (or sects like the Adamites or Catharism which definitely weren't Christians).
(sry I'm not a native speaker :D)
@@Robin-sf3gk you are correct 🙏
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles?
1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying.
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Thank you for explaining this crucial importance of knowing how we are saved. It is by "FAITH" ALONE that we are saved!
Baptism is THE OUTWARD EXPRESSION OF OUR FAITH AS A BELIEVER IN CHRIST. BAPTISM ALONE DOES NOT SAVE US.
ONLY FAITH! ✝️❤️
Salvation is by faith, nothing change that, it was given to us with the sacrifice of Jesus. How can we obtain? By faith. Now, even satan knows who Jesus is, what makes the difference is because we repent of our old person and submit to Jesus, once we believe we have the promise of salvation. When we baptize we submit and repent in his name and become a new person, sealed with his holy ghost. There are a few exceptions, yes. But we cannot count this as true. Paul did not preach anything different. When Paul said Jesus did not send him to baptize does not mean we should not baptize, he was telling to an existing church that it was good that he did not baptize them so they dont say they baptize under Paul or Peter, but under Jesus christ.
Same old false doctrine of faith only salvation...just different people.
I repented and was converted October 14. 1994. I was changed right away. My spiritual eyes were opened before I was baptized. I got baptized later but it did not save me.
QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU: How come Paul did not baptize gentiles? 1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism.
ua-cam.com/video/KVvY_AGVDgQ/v-deo.html
@@TorahisLifeandLight that's a good question. The answer is rather simple. 1 Corinthians 1:16, 17. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else. For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel-not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
To understand this, you must have discernment of the scriptures. Jesus gave them instructions before going back to Heaven in Matthew 28:18-20. The verse to note is 19. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. You cannot make disciples without preaching the gospel. There is an order...make disciples (preach the gospel), then baptize. There is no use of baptism without preaching the gospel. So Paul was following orders. Preach first, then baptize. And he was commanded to go to all nations making disciples, including the Gentiles, and to baptize them. Keep studying with an open heart. God will show you the Truth.
@@jmcc-lt3lk Paul clearly said it that he did not baptize any gentiles. Did he lie? Paul didn't know that water baptism was detrimental for salvation?? Yes! he knew that was not a requirement for the gentiles to be baptized.
There is no historical record that proves that the people whom Paul preached to got baptized .
The narrative of baptism in the NT was referring to "Holy Spirit" baptism.. That's completely different than water baptism my friend. That's like apples and oranges.
So, by the direct statement of Paul, that tells me or anybody with some common sense and for lack of evidence that Paul did not baptize gentiles with water baptism or Holy Spirit. PERIOD.
The Ones that Paul baptized in the same chapter of 1Corinthians 1:16,17 were disciples of John the Baptist who were 12 men in that instance who were baptized already by John the Baptist BUT Paul baptized them with Holy Spirit. They all were Jews. My friend , you must read the context.
NOW, when you quoted Matthew 28:18,19
These verse do not indicate anything of water baptism at all. INSTEAD, the context indicates that the Messiah referred to baptize believers with the Holy Spirit according to his direct command in :
Acts 1: 8
“But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come on you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth"
So in order to be Yeshuah's witnesses or followers, these disciples needed to receive the Holy Spirit as commanded by the Messiah himself.
The Holy Spirit was a promise to the children of Israel by the Most High as the Messiah quote it himself.
Acts 1:4,5
}While he was with them, he commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for the Father’s promise. “Which,” he said, “you have heard me speak about. for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit in a few days."
EVERYTHING INDICATED THAT THE APOSTLES AND MESSIAH HIMSELF followed and obeyed a prophetic command given by the prophets themselves.
See Joel 2: 27-32 referring to the children of Israel ONLY.
As Peter indicated this prophecy got fulfilled in Acts 2:5, 38-39
When they believed Peter , the devout Jews coming from all the nations around the world to worship in Jerusalem as the Day of Pentecost festival , which it was done every year by the devout Jews. Just like Passover or Sukkot festivals.
So when the people believed in the Gospel and Repented they were baptized into the Holy Spirit and their sins were forgiven according to Acts 2:38,39
They didn't need a "human blood sacrifice" or water baptism for their sins to be forgiven right? Peter did not indicate any water baptism or even mentioned anything along the lines of 'blood covenant "by the messiah. why? because it was not written by the prophets.
By the way, Corneliious was a Roman Jew who was considered a genitile because he was not circumcised. Just like the Greek Jews who were hellenized and not circumcised.
Some were also considered from Hebrew race as Abraham children or Abraham's stock but not Israelites as Paul indicated in his letters.Ishmaelites ( Ishmael's children) were Hebrew gentiles. why? because Ishamel's father was Abraham. They were Hebrew gentiles.
Acts 13:26
"Brothers and sisters, children of Abraham’s race, and those among you who fear God, it is to us that the word of this salvation has been sent."
What I shared with you my friend, does not indicate the non Hebrew gentiles or non israelite gentiles will not be saved. Actually God's plan was also to save 'people" from the nations as "non israelite gentiles" to be part of the Israel but they had to meet certain requirements and also follow the leadership of his people as Paul indicated in Acts 13: 47,48
Just like ancient time Israel. It's coming back again my friend. That's why you need to learn Torah and the Prophetic Torah to understand the purpose of God for Israel and humanity.As a Sephardic Jew myself, i am very happy to know these good news for the future.
If you want to be part of Israel in the future kingdom, you need to flee from deception that is promoted by Christianity. I am just being a straight shooter with you.
Shalom,
@@TorahisLifeandLight You are confused...very confused. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo which means to immerse in water. If it were not so to baptize in water, then why did Phillip baptize the Ethiopian Eunuch in water in Acts 8:38? The Ethiopian said "...See, here is water; what doeth hinder me to be baptized?" Verse 38, "And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and THEY when DOWN BOTH into the WATER, BOTH Phillip and the eunuch; and he BAPTIZED him." The Bible also says in 1 Peter 3:20, 21 "to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through WATER, 21 and this WATER symbolizes baptism that NOW SAVES YOU ALSO- not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God." And no where are we baptized into the SPIRIT. We are baptized into CHRIST. Romans 6:3 "now ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?" Galatians 3:27 "for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ." We receive the Holy Spirit as a gift when we are baptized. Acts 2:38 "Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." Staying with this verse, IF they did not need water baptism, the Bible would have said another sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house ( or the location at which they were) where they were sitting. They also would have seen to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. That wasn't the case, because that promise wasn't to them. That was for the apostles. And Paul clearly stated he baptized some in 1 Corinthians 1:16. IF Paul didn't need to baptize anyone, he never would have baptized AT ALL. Yet still, it is not true when you have an understanding of the Greek word baptizo, meaning to immerse into the water.
You think only Jews are saved? It is true...the Jews were first to receive the Word because they were God's chosen people. We are all adopted into the family of God if we obey Jesus and his teachings. In Romans 1:16 Paul writes, “I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.” The gospel is intended for all people. But, chronologically, the gospel message was first revealed to the Jewish people before it was revealed to the Gentiles (non-Jewish people). The Jews are God’s chosen people (Deuteronomy 7:6-7). Through the Jews, God demonstrated His love and holiness to the world: “Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah” (Romans 9:4-5). It was through the seed of Abraham that “all peoples on earth will be blessed” (Acts 3:25; Genesis 22:18; 26:4). That promised blessing came through Jesus Christ, as explained in Galatians 3:16. Jesus was born as a Jew under the Law, fulfilled the Jewish Law perfectly, and died as a once-for-all sacrifice on behalf of all who would put their faith in Him (Galatians 4:4-5; Hebrews 9:14-15, 23-28).
Fleeing from Christianity means fleeing from Jesus, and I will have NO PART IN THAT. I am not leaving the one who died for me! There is no way you can keep the Old Law perfectly. If you live by the Old Law, you are subject to it's penalties when you break the Old Law. That's why I am under the New Law/Covenant/Testament which gives grace. I hope you can come to know Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
@@jmcc-lt3lk First of all, don't put words in my mouth. You said Jews "were' chosen" ? LOL According to Paul and other apostles We :Jews" are still the chosen people of God. What are you talking about?
Plus i never said God will never save non israelites ( non Jews). Did you read my previous my message? I guess not. I made it very clear about that.
Now on the other issue of "baptism", i know what baptism means in Hebrew and Greek. I speak Hebrew and understand Greek. I have some questions for you. I would appreciate if you can give me your answer.
Question #1) what word is used in the bible for baptism in the Holy Spirit vs baptism in water?
Since you said that the Greek word baptism all over the NT was only for water baptism.
Question #2) Now immersion in water is more important for you than baptism in the Holy Spirit?
Question #3) in Acts 2:38 ..what made you think Peter baptized ( immersed) the devout Jews who sent to Jerusalem to celebrate the feast of Pentacost in Water where Peter said very clearly to "repent' and be baptized in the name of the Messiah in order to receive the Holy Spirit?Peter said to "repent" then receive baptism of the Holy Spirit. Perhaps you think there is no baptism in the Holy Spirit?? Is that what your pastor told you? lol
Haven't you read what Acts 1: 5 says when the Messiah told his disciples to stay in Jerusalem to be baptized in the Holy Spirit? The Messiah clearly stated that John the Baptized with Water BUT Yeshuah will baptize with Holy Spirit after repentance which was what Peter did.
I think you are the one very confused not knowing the difference between water baptism and Holy Spirit Baptism.
Sorry charlie but you need to repent for learning deceptive doctrines.
Acts 1:4,5 ,8
"While he was with them, he commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for the Father’s promise. “Which,” he said, “you have heard me speak about." “for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit in a few days.”
But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come on you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
So you think the Messiah will only 12 witnesses and nobody else received the Holy Spirit according to the New Testament letters and Gospels?
You are confused my friend!! There are a lot more people who received the Holy Spirit as it was a promise given to the children of israel and it was predicted by the Prophets. why are you calling God a liar? when you go against what is predicted or prophecies ...you are practically saying that God is a liar that he won't fulfill what his prophets predicted????????????????
Are you OK?
I don't think you are familiar about this prophecy regarding the Holy Spirit being promised to the children of Israel. That's how confused you are and your entire religion 'Christianity". Listen, your false religion will come to an end soon. We are living in the Apocalypse. Repent before is too late. Believing a LIE is a sin and will condemn you. Read 2Thessalonians 2:9-13
Yes, people were immersed in water but it was not for the forgiveness of sins.The baptism of the Holy Spirit was for the forgiveness of sins. Acts 2:38 and John 14: 26 and John 16:7-11 It was not for the Holy Spirit nobody will come to repentance and be guided to the truth.
By the way, ONLY Phillip baptized in water but none of the other apostles baptized in water instead they baptized Jews with the Holy Spirit. You go figure why. I know why but gentiles have a problem with that.
Another note , the Messiah Yeshuah was murdered . That's a huge difference . His murder was not for the forgiveness of sins.it was only to fulfill the prophecy to show that not all israel was saved but only those who believed and had faith in the prophecies regarding him.
why? because the Bible says so. how?
Well, Peter preached the Gospel and people REPENTED" and then Peter baptized with Holy Spirit. That's how they got saved.
Peter never said nothing about a human blood sacrifice in order to get saved or to be forgiven. This is according to Acts 2:38 and the whole chapter as context.
The Messiah himself never preached to the crowds that a human blood sacrifice was needed in order to be saved. SHOW ME ONE SINGLE VERSE THAT SAYS THAT
The Messiah preached what was predicted about him to preach.
He preached what Ezekiel 18:19-24 predicted in order to get forgiveness and redemption. This is also correlated with another prophecy predicted by the prophet Isaiah in 61:1, 2
The Messiah preached the kingdom OF ISRAEL BEING RESTORED THROUGH HIM that he inherited through king David. This was the good news he preached to the lost sheep of Israel.
Read Mark 1:14,15 Yeshuah/Jesus said to repent and believe the Gospel OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD. he never said nothing about a human blood sacrifice in order to be forgiven.
SHOW ME ONE SINGLE VERSE where the Messiah encouraged or preached the crowds forgiveness of sins was through a human blood sacrifice OR THROUGH WATER BAPTISM ???????????????????
Thank you, I have a brain injury, and PTSD, from military service, and I am doing my deciplship, week 8 teaches about Baptism, so this helped better me understand.
Don't believe this man. He is wrong...a false teacher. You are doing discipleship? What did Jesus say re: making a disciple? Who do you believe, these men or Jesus?
There is allways so much tension when it comes to baptism.
It started with John the baptist. Where he was doing a baptism of repentance. Then Jesus was baptized.
Jesus said a servant is not greater than his master. Why do we think we do not need baptism.
I'm not saying its necessary for salvation, but thats a big risk.
The King came down warning everyone repent for the Kingdom is at hand. You are in the wrong kingdom, you need to enter my Kingdom, by water and Spirit. The disciples understood this and thats exactly what they preached and did.
I also think that God is greater than our little quarrelling and if you cannot be baptized, but want to its a different story, for example the thief on the cross. He couldn't get down to get baptized. But hardening your heart and standing firm that baptism isn't necessary is a different story.
They also understood, where we nowadays think that faith is just believing. Is not how they did. Its has a action. Because you believe in Jesus and that you are following Him, you get baptized, read romans 6 where the whole chapter is about being baptism and that you are now free from the bondage of sin. That overpowering grip on you, where sin will no longter have dominion on you.
The disciples preached the new birth exactly like Jesus told them when He rose from the dead and for 40 days talked to them about the things of the Kingdom.
Everyone was baptized in acts and the very same day on most cases. Peter even commanded them to be baptized after receiving the Holy Spirit in acts.
One last thing is that the disciples preached repentance, baptism water and Holy Spirit. That was what the Churches consisted of. So all the letters in the bible written by Paul and others is for born again believers and taking out passages and implementing that on non believing people, I think is foolish. We will be held accountable for what we preached and I don't think we must do anything different than what they did in acts. They knew more than we do now.
I agree 100% and in addition to that, what about Jesus's words in Mark 16:16 ' He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.'
@Robert Louis Hi what a good way of saying it.
@Robert Louis No
Excellent points you made sir!
@Elias Jesus is the "Word of God" (John chapter 1). The water in which we are buried represents Jesus' Blood, and our rising out of the water represents our resurrection to a new life "in Christ". We cannot enter into Christ except through His Blood, which we do when we are buried with Him "in baptism" (Col 2)
JESUS CHRIST baptizes in THE HOLY SPIRIT and fire
John Dough yes Jesus baptizes us with the Holy Spirit and Fire. Fire always signifies Judgment and Jesus will use fire to cleanse the earth.in The Day of The Lord .2 Peter 3:10. . We can call judgment on cancer and tumors etc. I called the fire of the Holy Spirit on a tumor in a woman’s brain and her head was healed after great heat consumed the tumor and she could speak properly and was healed.
John Dough I just read this in Matthew. My question is, is water baptism really necessary today if we are baptised in the Holy Spirit?
David Lane what did saint Peter say or what did Jesus say. He that believes and is baptized will be saved. Mark 16:16. Saint Peter commanded spirit filled believers to be baptized into Jesus in the water. Acts 10:48. If a believers refuses to obey Jesus first commandment then how will they do the greater works in John 14:12 . Saint Peter gave the keys of the kingdom in Acts 2:38. Repentance unto salvation and and deciding to follow Jesus and being baptized into Jesus and being filled with the Holy Spirit. Renewing our minds by god’s word will occupy the rest of our lives as we become disciples of Jesus Christ while making other disciples of Jesus Christ Romans 12:2. Your next step is to be baptized into Jesus in water baptism. Romans 6:2-6 Colossians 3.
100% Jesus baptizes in the Holy Spirit. either you follow Jesus or your confused about who to follow.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God."
You MUST be born of water AND the Spirit.
I would consider myself to be a non-denominational Christian. I have the desire to be baptized, but sadly, most churches require you to be a member before they will baptize you.
My church baptizes believers who aren't members. Then again, we don't actually have membership, which makes things easier in that regard. If you know any other believers, you can ask them to baptize you-in lieu of actually being baptized in a church environment.
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Ask any believer to do it for you. You dont need a pastor or leader to do so.
Red flag, it’s a work.
There some churches like the Seventh Day Adventists who baptize people without them being their members first. One can then choose to join them or not. It would appear though that worshipping with some specific group of believers is beneficial to one. Jesus was not a Pharisee nor Saducee but he worshipped with them every Sabbath day.
I decided I wanted Jesus in my heart at the age of 5 and asked my mom to help me. I remember the time period, the place and what I was doing which was taking my vitamins with juice after eating breakfast. Also I believe I felt the devil's presence in a particular room before I got saved. I think he knew that he was going to lose me to Jesus Christ and God. And he was really trying to scare or freak me out. Anyway I didn't get baptized until the age of 17 mostly due to the fear of water and being dunked. As I was dunked in pools by cruel kids when I was growing up and it traumatized me. Also before that I didn't even want any water touching my face or head as I thought it would hurt or kill me.I finally decided to get baptized as I trusted that the pastor wouldn't drop me or let me drown. Anyway thought I would share. God Bless!
Amen!!! We are justified by faith! I got water baptized and it was beautiful, but it didn’t save me! The book of Acts makes the transition from works/law to grace super clear. By the end of the book of Acts we as believers can fully understand what God wanted to accomplish all along. There are no works required to be saved, believe in the complete and finished work of Jesus Christ!
People who think they need to be baptized to be saved have misunderstood passages of scripture and are not reading the book of Acts from beginning to end.
The Bible does say that New Testament baptism is for the remission (pardon, forgiveness) of sins.
( Luke 24:47, Acts 2:38 & 22:16, Colossians 2:11,12 )
The Bible does say that New Testament baptism is our burial, which is an essential part of the gospel of Death, Burial, and Resurrection.
( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Romans 6:3-5, Colossians 2:12 )
The Bible does say that New Testament Baptism saves us.
( Acts 2:38-40, Titus 3:5, 1 Peter 3:21, Mark 16:16 )
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:5
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38
Tim Loewen Tim Loewen it’s hard to say anything to someone who has their mind made up. Even if I had every ounce of proof to show you otherwise, you seem dead set in your thinking.
I will still give you a breakdown of the book of Acts so you can see the transition for yourself. I highly recommend you take some time to read that book in 1 sitting, and to take notes (rather than taking a few bits of scripture out of context. Below this paragraph I will extensively explain the transition to you.
The book of Acts is a transitional book. Below is a transition from Law to Grace God created using Peter.
Acts 2:38 (Jews) - a message for the Jews to repent and be water baptized.
“Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off-for all whom the Lord our God will call.”
Acts 10:44 (Gentiles) - a message for the Gentiles to believe. The moment they believed unto Jesus the Holy Spirit of God fell upon them.
“While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message.”
Acts 11:16 “Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.”
Significance of Acts 11:16: Peter sees the Gentiles get saved and receive the Holy Spirit just by accepting the Gospel and immediately remembers Acts 1:5 (For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.). Peter realized the water baptism was for the Jews, but that God is going to turn from needing a water baptism in order to receive the Holy Spirit, to simply receiving the Holy Spirit by BELIEVING THE GOSPEL!
The point of this sequence was for God to make both the disciples and the audience reading this book understand that in order to receive the Holy Spirit all you need to do is believe the gospel of Jesus Christ. The moment you choose to believe in the gospel you will receive the Holy Spirit. This sequence also helps illustrate the transition that was taking place from the LAW to GRACE. Law said repent and be water baptized and THEN receive the Holy Spirit. Grace says believe the gospel of Jesus Christ and receive the Holy Spirit. All you need to do is believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ for the Holy Spirit to fall upon you!!!
Now we have a look at the transition as spoken through Paul in Acts 13:38-48. He is rejoicing seeing the Gentiles get saved, and in verses 46-48 says: “Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: “We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles. For this is what the Lord has commanded us: “‘I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’”
When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.”
How did these Gentiles get eternal life according to Paul? How did these Gentiles get the Holy Spirit? BY BELIEVING! It was NOT by water baptism, it was by FAITH!
The book of Acts is a transitional book: from Peter to Paul, from Jews to Gentiles, from Israel to the Church, from Signs to Faith alone, from needing a water baptism in order to receive the Holy Spirit to only needing to believe the Gospel to receive the Holy Spirit.
Further proof of this Acts 15:7-9 - Peter is addressing the Pharisees accusations against the Gentiles, as they believe they aren’t saved because they aren’t circumcised as commanded under the law of Moses:
Acts 15:7-9 “After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe.””
Peter was speaking here in these verses, he was joined by Paul and Barbabas to share with the Pharisees what God had done for the Gentiles. Here Peter assures the Pharisees that the Gentiles were saved by receiving and accepting the Gospel! The Pharisees believed the Gentiles were unsaved because they were uncircumcised, these Pharisees were still looking to the Law, here Peter was explaining how now we look to Grace. We are saved by GRACE through FAITH. We are not saved by WATER, we are saved by FAITH. This is not from us, this is a gift from God.
Icing on the cake by Peter, Acts 15:10:11 “Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
Peter makes is crystal clear that they (the Jews) are saved by the Grace of God, just as they (the Gentiles) are!
We are saved by GRACE through FAITH today, not water baptism.
Further proof we are saved by Grace through faith alone:
Acts 16:30-33 - Jews asked Paul what they must do to be saved. Here is what Paul says in Acts 16:30-33 “He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved-you and your household.” Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house. At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized.”
Notice how Paul told them that in order to be saved they needed to believe in the Lord Jesus! That was the condition given when asked ‘what must we do to be saved?’. It was AFTER they believed that they were baptized. It doesn’t say ‘believe and be baptized, only then you shall be saved’, it says “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved”. Salvation came from believing in Jesus Christ, not from the water baptism.
Edit: if you’d like I can take things a step beyond the book of Acts and show you how this remains consistent throughout other passages of scripture. The book of Corinthians, Ephesians, and Romans have many verses that are commonly misunderstood. People tend to pick them out and conclude that baptism is necessary for us to be saved. Another common theme is to take Old Testament scripture out of context as well.
The reason I am dead set on bringing an accurate understanding of the book of Acts is that the book deals with this very subject... law vs grace. The point of the book of Acts is for us believers to know and understand that there is no deed or work we can do to ‘earn’ our salvation. Our salvation cannot be earned, it’s a gift from God. God requires faith, not our works which are filthy as rags.
The reason I am getting into heaven isn’t because I followed some 10 step program, or because I was baptized... it’s literally because I placed ALL my trust, hope and faith in the only savior that could redeem me! I placed all my trust in Jesus Christ, that’s why I’m saved!!
Angelo Manzi AMEN. I was saved by grace for years before I was baptized. But I knew I was saved and if I had died during my multiple surgeries I would be in Jesus’s arms. The day I was able to be baptized I knew it was letting the whole church know I was a follower of Jesus!
How do one believe? That seems to be hard work by itself. Belief in fantastic stories that make no sense at all. The Bible that seems to contradict itself on every word. How is it not work to bring yourself to the point where you claim to know God?
Angelo, please read my comment. I don't want you to misunderstand baptism.
Since you brought up Lutherans, I'll be the resident Lutheran here...so, when Lutherans say "baptism saves" what we don't mean is, by going through the "act" of being baptized, a person is saved, as if baptism is the "efficient cause" of salvation. To say "baptism saves" is no different than saying "preaching saves". If a Baptist were to say "preaching saves" every other Baptist would instantly know what is being expressed. "Preaching saves" doesn't mean every single person listening to a sermon is automatically saved; it means that the Gospel comes to a person through the sound of the preacher's voice and that the Holy Spirit through the Gospel pounds away at the human heart to work faith in Christ (Paul said the Gospel is the "power of God", after all). Baptism does the same. It is God's Gospel communicated through water. Saying water is just a symbol doesn't help here because words are just symbols too but in both cases - preaching and baptism - the Gospel is being communicated, by God, to the individual. Spoken words are not visible but water is, so baptism is the "visible Word of God" to use St Augustine's phrase. Or, as the Reformation Lutherans were fond of saying, Baptism is the "visible Gospel" and so brings the same promise and has the same power as preaching. So yes, a person can come to faith and be saved through preaching. In fact, all adults before baptism must already be believers in Christ. But that doesn't empty baptism of it's promise or announcement, namely, that in Christ, all your sins have been swallowed up by the eternal logos, who hung on a tree, granting full remission of all your sins. That Gospel, which to every Christian is full of power and comfort, comes in preaching, bread, wine, and in water, working faith, newness of life, regeneration, and salvation. Amen and amen.
I pray that God has mercy on those working for salvation
“[17] For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.”
1 Corinthians 1:17
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles?
1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying.
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it's funny nobody replied to your comment lol
Yes he who believes and is baptized shall be saved. Mark 16:16.
Worth the Holy Spirit? All over John New Testament Jesus say if you believe in him you get everlasting life
@@IsaiahFisher19 that is true too. Both are needed for salvation along with other things like grace, faith, repentance, confession, and living faithfully until death.
@@jmcc-lt3lk He that believes the gospel gets baptized with the holy Spirit. So that's the baptism. Not water. You don't want to put your faith in your water baptism, just in what Jesus did for us.
@@mkovis8587 Lack of understanding will make you come to the conclusion you did. First, the Greek word for baptism is Baptizó (βαπτίζω) which means to dip, immerse, to go under water. Second, the Bible teaches you, along with the Greek definition of baptism, that baptism means water in Acts 8:36-39; 1 Peter 3:21, 22; and John 3:3, 5.
Obedience to what Jesus said do is what saves us. Jesus commands us to be baptized, and he told his apostles to teach and baptize (Baptizó) in Matt. 28:18-20.
THE BIBLE SAYS BAPTISM IS IN WATER
1 Peter 3:20-21
(20) Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
(21) The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Mark 1:9-10
(9) And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.
(10) And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
Acts 8:38-39
(38) And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
(39) And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing
Believe should be accompanied with baptism in order to be saved. In the words of Jesus. Believe is like fulfilling one part of a requirement to be a nurse, say exams without registering as a nurse. U may have the qualifications but u are not a nurse until all the requirements are completed such as registering with the council.
who formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, during the building of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
1 Peter 3:20-21 RSV-CI
We are walking the Road of Salvation with Jesus Christ the moment that hay I need to believe in you save me now I will do what I need to be saved
It is virtually undisputed truth that man is saved by divine grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8). However, some have concluded from this fact that there is nothing that man can or must do for his salvation. It is frequently argued that "water baptism can't possibly be necessary for salvation because it is a work of man. Man is not saved by works." Such an objection however, betrays a misunderstanding of the meaning of justification by works. In recent articles, we have defined the doctrine of justification by works from the Scriptures. We have also noted that saving faith is completed by obedience (James 2:22).
The difficulty for those who reject water baptism as essential for salvation is the multitude of passages describing its purpose and consequences. These passages clearly indicate the necessity of water baptism for salvation.
For example, on the Day of Pentecost, the apostles taught that water baptism is "" (Acts 2:38). There are some who would try to argue that the preposition "for" in this expression means "because of," a view which fits neither the normal meaning of the preposition nor harmonizes with other passages on the purpose of water baptism. The same expression "for the remission of sins" is found in Matthew 26:28; "" I have yet to meet anyone who argues that Jesus shed His blood "because of" the remission of sins, i.e., because sins were already remitted.
"" (Acts 2:37). It is amazing the apostles didn't tell these believing Jews they were already saved! Those who embrace the "saved by faith only" doctrine would have told them that. The apostles didn't pray the "sinner's prayer" with them, accepting Jesus into their lives as their personal Savior. Why can't those who claim to believe the Bible simply tell the believer today exactly what the apostles told believers on that Pentecost: ""?
Baptism is obviously symbolic. Is it then just a "reenactment" of the believer's salvation? Although some favor this view of water baptism, such is not what the apostle Paul wrote about baptism. We are baptized "" (Romans 6:3), "" (Romans 6:4). Paul did not suggest that baptism is symbolic of the believer's salvation; he compared the believer's baptism to the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. In baptism the sinner is "buried" with Christ, but the comparison doesn't stop there. Paul wrote, "" (vs. 4). Jesus was raised from the dead and came out of the tomb; so also the buried sinner is raised spiritually as he comes out of the water of baptism. "Newness" has reference to quality rather than time. The person who once was dead in sin has now been made alive by the working of God (Colossians 2:12).
Paul observed that the Galatians had baptized "into" Christ (Galatians 3:27). Can anyone be saved "apart from" Christ? In the same text, he noted those who were baptized into Christ, had put on Christ. Can we be saved without "putting on" Christ?
Saving faith is completed by obedience. Water baptism doesn't "earn" salvation any more than any other individual act of obedience causes the doer to merit salvation. In fact, the person baptized for the remission of sins is seeking the favor of God in the form of forgiveness -- hardly the action of one seeking to be justified by his own works! Water baptism, however, does serve to complete the faith of the believer (James 2:14-16).
Well said
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Heb. 12:2
This explanation is so convoluted. Repent and be baptized WHY? For the forgiveness of sins and you receive the Holy Spirit. It's that simple people.
Tell me you didn’t care to listen without telling me you didn’t care to listen
Baptism is not a work it is an act of obedience. For as many as were baptized have clothed themselves with Christ. We do not know the thief on the cross had not been baptized. They were still under the old law.
Me loving my neighbor is also a command yet it doesnt save me. It’s what a saved person does. Now, the most important thing here is being justified is what saves us. Anything that allows for justification saves us like grace, faith etc… baptism does not justify us thus it cannot save us. We must all do it and its extremely important but we do it because we are saved not to be saved.
I grew up as a baptist and fought against baptism being needed for salvation. I once spoke the same as Piper and others. I also reworded the word of God to fit my lack of believe. Why?
We are saved by grace THROUGH faith. True faith is belief trust and obedience. Hebrews 11 gives us an account of what true faith is. If you truly believe the word of God the you trust in the commandments given to you and that trust leads to obedience.
Being dipped into water does not save, the water does not hold some special antidote to sin. But it’s the humbling your self to God in baptism. In that moment you are united with Christ and you bury the old man and are raised a new.
“Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?”
“We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.
Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.”
Romans 6:4-6, 8-11 ESV
Have true faith a faith that follows the word of God over the word of men. Please stop following the man and follow your one and only true God. Please have the faith that trusts the word of God and be baptized for the remission of your sin.
James 4:8 - "Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded."
Proverbs 1:23 - "Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you."
Romans 12:2 - "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."
James 1:5 - “If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.”
Isaiah 41:17-18 - "When the poor and needy seek water, and there is none, and their tongue faileth for thirst, I the LORD will hear them, I the God of Israel will not forsake them. I will open rivers in high places, and fountains in the midst of the valleys: I will make the wilderness a pool of water, and the dry land springs of water."
James 4:2-3 - "Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts."
Matthew 7:11 - “If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?”
Matthew 18:3 - “...Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.”
Acts 19:2-5 - "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."
Act 2: 38 - "Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.."
John 10:26-27 - "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
John 3:5 - “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
Acts 3:19 - "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;"
2 Peter 3:9 - "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."
1 John 1:8-10 - "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."
James 5:16 - "Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."
1 John 1:9 - "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
Acts 2:38-39 - "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call."
Matthew 19:13-14 - "Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them. But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."
Acts 22:16 - "And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord."
Romans 10:9 - "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
Titus 3:5 - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost.
Ephesians 2:8-9 - "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."
Acts 2:21 - "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."
John 7:37-39 - "In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)"
Isaiah 11:2 - "And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;"
1 Corinthians 12:13 - "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."
John 4:14 - "...whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life."
John 3:15-18 - "That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
2 Corinthians 1:22 - "Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts."
Colossians 2:11- "In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:"
Genesis 17:12-- "And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed."
Matthew 18:5 - "And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me."
Proverbs 22:6 - "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."
Mark 16:16 - “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Romans 6:4 - "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."
1 John 2:1-5 - "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him."
Leviticus 17:11 - "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul."
Hebrews 9:22 - "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission."
Matthew 16:24-26 - "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?"
James 2:26 - "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."
James 2:18 - "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works."
Romans 10:14-15 - " How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!"
Matthew 28:19-20 - "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world."
Psalms 50:5 - "Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice."
Matthew 22:37-40 - "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."
1 John 5:3 - "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."
Deuteronomy 11:22 - "For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;"
Ephesians 4:30 - "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption."
Galatians 3:26-2 - "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ."
John 10:28-30 - "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one."
Romans 8:15 -16 - "For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:"
Psalms 82:6-7 - "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes."
Revelation 3:21 - "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."
Matthew 1:23 - "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."
Isaiah 9:6 - "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Deuteronomy 6:4 - "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"
The thief on the cross is irrelevant to this topic. The thief on the cross lived and died under the old law. Jesus didn't command the Baptism "of the Christian age" until after he rose.
If the New Law gets established after the death and resurrection of Christ why didn't the Apostles get baptized again?
Furthermore, there are no records of the Apostles being baptized, but it is assumed that they were since they were proper disciples of Jesus.
QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU: How come Paul did not baptize gentiles?
1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism.
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They why Jesus was baptised by John the baptist. 🤔🤔
@@IND4Christ to fulfill all righteousness. This guy is a wolf.
This guy is a wolf. Everything is out of context.
Salvation is a path not merely an event - that's why it was called "The Way." You are saved so long as you are on "The Way." You "were saved" at first faith. You are saved from slavery to sin in water baptism (Rom 6, Col2:11-13). You are "being saved" through sanctification. And you "will be saved" if you endure in faith to the end (of your natural life). These are the three tenses used in the New Testament concerning salvation.
Jesus Christ made it clear to his apostles that they should go every and teach the people all things and baptizing them in the name of the father, the Son and the holy spirit if it wasn't important Jesus wouldn't leave that instruction God says if all things were to be written the Bible would have to be the size of the world so he put in it what is important for our salvation and to enter heaven simple. Mark 16:16-"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned".
Of course baptism is important. I don't think any believer would say it is not, but it is not a necessity for salvation.
I can believe the seeds I just purchased will grow...Without following up with soil and water it will not. Faith without works is dead.
I'm still of the opinion that water baptism was to bring Jews to repentance. That is the key in my mind, repentence, not water baptism.
I repented and asked said I believe Jesus died and rose again and asked for Him to come into my life as Lord and Saviour. Then I felt an amazing feeling come over me like I've never felt in my life. The whole room was filled with peace, like nothing else existed but peace. I experienced the infilling of the Holy Spirit. Also the change of heart and desires that followed that life changing experience. Well, I was dead, but now I'm alive, so that's something you notice.
I had what I can only describe as a glowing feeling for a good week or two after that. A lightness due to the burden of sin being lifted from me. It's a real noticeable change, if you are born again you will have no doubt about it, you'll know. Jesus `finished' it. Jesus baptises us. I'm not saying to get water baptised is a bad thing, but it's a picture of the real thing.
Matthew 3:11
- I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh
after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he
shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:
2nd Birth John’s Baptism was a different Baptism than being baptized into Christ Jesus as it was a baptism of repentance. No one could be baptized into Christ Jesus until Jesus died on Calvary and rose again . Acts 19 explains the difference between John’s baptism and being baptized into Christ Jesus. we believers are baptized into Christ Jesus body by the Holy Spirit 1 Corinthians 12:13.
Water baptism is essential to salvation as it is in the center of the gospel. If you want to learn more about scripture go to www.thywordistruth.com God bless you
Jorge Torres baptism is for our benefit. All believers in the New covenant were baptized immediately into water ( or buried into Christ Jesus). The Holy Spirit baptizes us into the one body of Christ by using other believers 1 Corinthians 12:13. Being set free and filled with the Holy Spirit always happens then by asking Jesus to fill us with His Holy Spirit. This is a supernatural event just like the Lords Supper. There are no rituals or symbols in the New covenant.
Paul teaches in Ephesians 4:5 that there is one baptism. We know from Matthew 3:11 that Jesus baptized with the Holy Spirit, and later on in Matthew 28:19 we are commanded by Jesus to baptize all people on earth. Jesus baptized with the Holy Spirit, (Luke 3:16), so that leaves only one choice left. The "one baptism" of scripture must therefore be the baptism of the Great Commission.
THE BIBLE SAYS BAPTISM IS IN WATER
1 Peter 3:20-21
(20) Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
(21) The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Mark 1:9-10
(9) And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.
(10) And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
Acts 8:38-39
(38) And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
(39) And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing
False teaching. James says that faith alone does NOT save us. 1 Peter 3:21v We Are saved by baptism. Baptism is not a work we do.
Kindly refer to Mathew 28: 19 (Go Ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:) and Mark 16:15, 16(And He said unto them, Go Ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.)
Ppl loves to debate what is written, is Jesus Himself said that, why debating than believe what Jesus. Baptism itself is faith, faith is a verb
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles?
1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying.
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I like to think of the book of Malachi when it comes to Baptism. People just think they can tell God they know better. I wish people could be content with Matthew 28:19 and just accept it, Knowing full well the Apostles never changed/contradicted Jesus’ commandment. Baptism is not a work. It is part of the salvation process. People can repeat and not be saved. People can confess Christ and not be saved, and people can be Baptized and not be saved. God has set up all three for salvation with Him calling us forth out of our dead state.
He that believes the gospel GETS baptized with the holy Spirit of Promise. And you must be born again to enter Heaven. Born again of Spirit. So it's not water baptism but holy Spirit baptism that is required.
What you saying can’t be true because there are people who are in prison who have given their lives to Christ who can’t get baptized and are you saying they won’t go to Heaven? Yes they will! What about innocent children you haven’t been baptized you are saying they won’t go to Heaven because their parents didn’t get them baptized? He is right Salvation is through faith in Christ alone
Helpful. God bless you, Pst. John! ✝️🙏🏽☺️
If you are reading this... Get baptized. Don't mess around.
Piper knows nothing
When you believe the gospel you get baptized with the holy Spirit. That's the baptism. You don't want to put your faith in your water baptism or anything else you do. Just believe in Jesus and what he did for us.
@@mkovis8587 you get Baptized to wash away your past sins
I can’t get baptized again I was baptized as a baby and my family said only once! I don’t know what to do
@@jesusismysavior9368 your sins are washed away by the blood of Jesus not water of the earth. 1 John 1:9 says...If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Amen, certainly agree. God did give Peter the keys and IMHO, I would rather follow the word and overdue then be lacking in my obedience. I personally don’t believe that baptism is and after action but should be done in totality as said by Peter’s admonition.
Thank you John for sharing your thoughts on baptism.
When it was mentioned the analogy of ''Grab your hat and run!", I think more accurate explanation of this analogy would be, that he believed this man and then he ran, thus we believe Jesus and also obey His words.
There are so many discussions about baptism, but why we just don't listen to what Christ said and do it?
From the Bible, which one of the 2 sons from Matthew 21 did the fathers will?
I like to think of the book of Malachi when it comes to Baptism. People just think they can tell God they know better. I wish people could be content with Matthew 28:19 and just accept it, Knowing full well the Apostles never changed/contradicted Jesus’ comment. Baptism is not a work. It is part of the salvation process. People can repeat and not be saved. People can confess Christ and not be saved, and people can be Baptized and not be saved. God has set up all three for salvation with Him calling us forth out of our dead state.
@@thewhatsup Matthew 28:19 - “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”
Matthew 28:19 says to baptise those who are already disciples. In other words it is saying to baptise the already-saved. When it says “…baptising them…”, “them” is referring to disciples already made. It doesn’t say to go find people and make them disciples by baptising them.
@@dchaunpalu4655 go and hire employees, clothing them with the employee uniform.
@@dchaunpalu4655disciples are just students of someone, that doesn't mean you are saved just because you believe. Satan and his demons believe in God and his power, but are by no means saved. (James 2:18-20)
Jesus Himself was baptized, are we being proud by saying that we do not need to be baptized?
Jesus was better than any human can hope to be. We hope to follow Him through our thoughts and actions but Jesus did so many things that we hope to be able to do but sometimes can't. He forgives us for not being able to do these things. Baptism is something that every Christian SHOULD do, just as they SHOULD love their brothers and sisters and the lost, but does this mean that if they do not do this, or if they fall to sin and later repent, that they are not saved?
@Orando de Dia what do you need to change your mind?
so well explained!
I love John Piper and I have a deep respect for him and his work but I've got to disagree with him on this one...
You are united to Christ through faith in the water of baptism. Baptism is not a "work of merit." To suggest that it is is to misunderstand it. Almost no one who believes a person is saved at the point of water baptism believes baptism is somehow "earning your salvation." We are instructed to "call on the name of the Lord" in the water of baptism (Acts 22). The water does not save or have any power. There is no power in the water and there is no merit in going to the water. Going to the water is done only in recognition of a person's inability to save themselves and recognition that they need to "call on the name of the Lord" so He can do what they can't. I absolutely agree with John that the power is not in the water. A person is saved by faith as their heart calls on God for grace in the water of baptism.
Why do we "call on" on God through baptism? I don't know, that's just the way God told us to do it.
To suggest Acts 2:38 and Acts 22 ("forgiveness of your sins" and "wash away your sins") are not referring to the point of justification throws up some serious red flags. What is justification if not the washing away of our sins by receiving the righteousness of Christ?
John's illustration of the man grabbing his hat and running for the train might be ok if Acts 2:38 was the only passage in the Bible that spoke of baptism this way but it isn't. What about the great commission? Jesus tells the Apostles to go to the world, preach, and baptize. Mar 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. Matthew's record of the commission also includes baptism. Galatians 3:27 says we are baptized "into Christ" and that those baptized have "put on Christ." Keep in mind, Galatians is Paul's writing. Those words seem to confirm the words surrounding his own conversion in Acts 22.
I just don't understand why people are so quick to put baptism back on the "nonessential list" when its importance is stated again and again in the New Testament. I don't believe any person who is free of theological biases would pick up and read the Bible for the first time and walk away with the idea that baptism isn't a key part of justification. There are too many texts that plainly say otherwise. The audience in Acts 2:38 came to this same conclusion which is why 3,000 were baptized that same day.
Water baptism doesnt save you anymore than taking part in communion saves you. Its a work. Works dont save you.
Could you dive into if the thief on the cross is saved if he didn’t call on God in the water?
Why are so many people doing everything they can to sideskirt water baptism? Its almost as if the act of water baptism is offensive.
There are several instances in the bible where the gospel was preached and the hearers subsequently got water baptized.
This tells me that getting water baptized is a part of OBEYING the gospel.
Don't feel like obeying the full gospel? Just want to squeak by, doing the absolute minimum?
Better hope that the following scriptures are not true.
2 Thessalonians 1:7-9
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Tinker around with Gods Word, if you must and find out the truth later.
As for me and my household, we got water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
I, for one, am not ashamed of that part (or any part) of the Gospel.
Philip 1 of the 7, chosen in Acts 6:5, is clearly designated in the Bible as an evangelist (Acts 21:8). Going down to Samaria he preached Christ there (Acts 8:5). And then: “Acts 8:12-13 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Simon himself believed and was baptized. (…)” This passage (Acts 8) highlighting the acts of Philip the evangelist very clearly mentions water baptism. It cannot honestly be confused with the baptism of the Holy Spirit (v. 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.).
Another example with the eunuch (Acts 8:26-40). “v.35 Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus.” And what happens then; “36 As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, “Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized?” [37] [c] 38 And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him.”
My questions are, what in the message that Philip the evangelist, preached in his gospel led these different people to be baptized? What place did baptism occupy in his preaching of the good news?
Why did Peter still command Cornelius and his house (not babies, but repentant believers) to be baptized, even though they had already received the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:48)?
And that thrilling passage (Acts 18:24-19:7) “18:24 Meanwhile a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was a learned man, with a thorough knowledge of the Scriptures. 25 He had been instructed in the way of the Lord, and he spoke with great fervor and taught about Jesus accurately, though he knew only the baptism of John. 26 He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately. (…) 19:1 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed? ”They answered, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” 3 So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?” “John’s baptism,” they replied. 4 Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” 5 On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied. 7 There were about twelve men in all.”
Why does Paul not just leave them like that, since they have already obviously repented(19:4) and believed (19:2)? Why does he continue with another water baptism and the laying on of hands so that they may receive the Holy Spirit?
In conclusion, I think deeply in my heart that water baptism should be part of evangelism. Just as much as repentance in fruits and active faith, “Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved” (Mark 16:16; Jesus adds that not believing is enough to be condemned - implying that baptism without faith cannot save, which includes all ritual infant baptisms, or other rituals performed according to traditions). For me it's the general rule. While not excluding the Sovereign exceptions that confirm the rule.
Blessings in Christ.
I'm so tired of Bible authors being so weird in the way they say things. If you wanted to say "Not as though you were removing your SINS with water, but it's the plea to God for a good conscience," then why not just say that? Why did you say "dirt"? That isn't at all helpful to the question you raised! Why not just say what you mean? This is actually leading me to reconsider whether or not baptism is necessary for salvation. I'm actually less certain that it isn't after listening to this.
Romans 6:3
Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
Romans 6:4
Therefore we have been buried with him by baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
1 Corinthians 1:13
Has Christ been divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
1 Corinthians 1:14
I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius,
1 Corinthians 1:15
so that no one can say that you were baptized in my name.
1 Corinthians 1:16
(I did baptize also the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized anyone else.)
1 Corinthians 1:17
For Christ did not send me to baptize but to proclaim the gospel, and not with eloquent wisdom, so that the cross of Christ might not be emptied of its power.
1 Corinthians 10:2
and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea,
1 Corinthians 12:13
For in the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-Jews or Greeks, slaves or free-and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
1 Corinthians 15:29
Otherwise, what will those people do who receive baptism on behalf of the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized on their behalf?
Galatians 3:27
As many of you as were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
Ephesians 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Colossians 2:12
when you were buried with him in baptism, you were also raised with him through faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.
Hebrews 6:2
instruction about baptisms, laying on of hands, resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgement.
Hebrews 9:10
but deal only with food and drink and various baptisms, regulations for the body imposed until the time comes to set things right.
1 Peter 3:21
And baptism, which this prefigured, now saves you-not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
So when God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, Abraham believed him in the moment. Early the next day he set out, he walked for three days, he set up an alter, he had Isaac lie on the alter. God stopped him at the last moment and that’s when it was credited to hill s as righteousness. The act was necessary not simply the faith.
If you go skydiving, and you have faith that the parachute will save you and jump out of the plane full of faith but never pull the rip cord you’re going to go splat. You have to act on your faith
nope scripture says : Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.
At the point when his faith was credited to him as righteousness it was long before he even had Issac. Different time in his life. His faith was credited to him as righteousness, not his obedience in being willing to sacrifice his son.
Thank you for this message. I have a lot of work to do within myself
Saving faith doesn't ever precede action. It coincides with action. Hebrews 11
What verse?
@@daniela.santander4637 Read the whole chapter. Faith and works are not separated. They are two sides of the same coin. Baptism is similar to all of the actions listed in Hebrews 11 except the work of Baptism is declared absolutely to save us. 1 Peter 3:21. Of course Baptism is a work of Christ, not man. We receive it from Christ. No one can baptize themselves, and after it is received we must continue to seek our Lord by faith and works lest we fail to complete the race. 2 Tim 4:7.
It’s like asking if obedience is necessary to be a Christian. There is a spiritual birth that happens when we are baptized. We are born into the kingdom of God.
Explain that!!
If you receive Jesus and still living, it doesn't harm to get baptized.
THE BIBLE SAYS BAPTISM PLACES US “IN CHRIST ”
Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Colossians 3:2
3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Totally agree. I believe in the New Testament we are now baptized through the Holy Spirit in Christ. Paul converted thousands of people without the ritual of Baptism. He did it only once in one of the church house when requested of him.
Paul he baptized church of Ephesus act 19:5-6
Keep it simple. The thief on the cross wasn't baptized but met the Lord in Heaven that very day. Neither was he baptized in the Holy Spirit. So that throws the Pentecostal Holiness doctrine out the window.
@juan sebastian Diaz The Holy Spirit is merely the Comforter, not the Savoir. The means for salvation is belief and repentance. The Baptism is a bonus.
Not really..the thief was under Law, before Jesus's death and resurrection. Then Jesus said it is finished...the bold covenant is now past and the new has now begun.
The thief might have been baptized into Johns baptism unto repentance...who knows, seems he may know more than than written
Thank you @Juan Sebastian Diaz I do study and pray the HolyGhost gives me understanding and revelation.
@juan sebastian Diaz John 3:16
Pastor John explains baptism very well. It seems many comments here, are expressing their views, without listening to this message. I’d say, focus on this message, and then heed.
We don't need water to be justified and we don't need water to be sanctified. I wonder when the church is finally going to transition to the fullness of the NEW COVENANT where there is no need for any sacrament done on the flesh (natural realm). This is were CHRIST IS ALL in all. Regeneration is my only baptism.
"Regeneration is my only baptism."
Cool. But it wasn't Paul's only baptism. Or Peter, James, John and the rest of the apostles'. It wasn't the early church's only baptism.
"There is no need for any sacrament..."
Put down the tomes of systematic theology, and pick up the New Testament. You'll find a lot less platonism in there. Cheers.
(Acts 2:38) is the "Gospel", the "Good News", and what we must ALL obey, in order for us to be saved. That's our DEATH - (REPENTANCE), our BURIAL - (BAPTISM **IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST**), and our RESURRECTION (receiving the HOLY GHOST.) That's our only New Testament "Born-Again" experience, that we MUST ALL OBEY! (Acts 2:38) is the Gospel that Jesus calls us by (in real time), in order to enter the Kingdom. But in eternity past, we who are called, chosen and elected... We're already called, chosen and elected from (before the foundation of the world.)
Matthew 28:18-20 Jesus tell them what to do!
Yes, baptism is necessary for salvation
I think it depends for example, what if some one decides to become a Christian in Saudi Arabia who’s gonna baptize him?
You are saved by Faith through Grace, Faith is the key.
Have you not read? Go to the Scripture and compare your belief system.
When the thief was on the cross, Jesus was there beside him - obviously. According to Mark 2:10 ("But that you may know, the Son of Man has authority on Earth to forgive sins), Jesus could forgive that man's sins because Jesus was alive then. It's just like if I had a car (forgiveness of sins in this analogy), I could give it to anyone I wanted while I was alive, but as soon as I die, people would have to look at my will (the Bible in Jesus's case) to see who gets it (everyone) what to do to get the car (belief, repent, confess that Jesus is the Lord, be baptised and live a faithful life).
Also, the thief was saved before Jesus died on the cross, meaning it was still the Old Covenant, and not relevant to us today. It's just like sacrificing lambs - we don't do it anymore because Jesus died on the cross.
Grace Jesus is still alive and is the same yesterday, today and forever Hebrews 13:8.. No true believer would refuse to do the first commandment that Jesus gave us to do which is baptism. He who believes and is baptized will be saved.Saint Peter commanded that all the household of Cornelius be baptized after they were filled with the Holy Spirit Acts 10:48
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 Amen!
Amen!!!
Baptists rewriting scripture to fit what they believe. Ironically they don’t believe in a Biblical baptism.
God is not stupid to ask us to be baptized in water in order to be saved. We can be baptized even by the holy spirit through repentance and willingness to turn our hearts to god
Paul teaches in Ephesians 4:5 that there is one baptism. We know from Matthew 3:11 that Jesus baptized with the Holy Spirit, and later on in Matthew 28:19 we are commanded by Jesus to baptize all people on earth. Jesus baptized with the Holy Spirit, (Luke 3:16), so that leaves only one choice left. The "one baptism" of scripture must therefore be the baptism of the Great Commission.
THE BIBLE SAYS IT'S IN WATER
1 Peter 3:20-21
(20) Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
(21) The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Mark 1:9-10
(9) And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.
(10) And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
Acts 8:38-39
(38) And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
(39) And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing
Amen He nailed it nicely said John
Based on Luke 3:16, and Acts 11:15-16, and Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27, the most important thing about the word "baptism" in the New Testament, has nothing to do with water. What were they baptized with in that passage? Unfortunately, many Christians see water every time they read the word "baptized". Nobody should ever be baptized in water without an explanation of the baptism of the Spirit found in Luke 3:16.
In John chapter 3 Christ explained to Nicodemus, that a person must be "born again" of the Spirit of God, in order to inherit the kingdom of God.
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Thanks a lot man, a lot of people in these comment section don't get it, i was baptized of water before but i was not saved, i was living an immoral lifestyle. Until i got baptized of the Holy spirit and accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior in my heart, then i was totally changed from the inside out. I stopped lusting and the holy spirit is helping me each day to live a Holy life. That''s why Jesus said that on the day of Judgement many will come to me and say LORD LORD, we did signs and miracles and great works in your name but Jesus will say DEPART FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS, it was because they were living a sinful lifestyle and they taught their works will get them into heaven, No you've got to be baptized of the spirit to Stay away from all sinful desires. But i also believe that Water Baptism is a symbolical way of saying you want to totally surrender your life for Jesus and follow him and i also think it's very important to be baptized of water too, But that's not what get you saved. We are Saved by Grace through our Faith in Christ Jesus, then we'll receive the holy spirit to help us on our walk with Christ.
This is so false realize Paul in Ephesus a was talking to people he had personally baptized so when he says you were baptized in the spirit when you believed he is talking to people who received the gospel who he baptized with water and then laid hands for them to receive the Holy Ghost.
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1Co 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
1Co 1:15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
1Co 1:16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
1Co 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
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SpotterVideo this is talking about in Corinth specifically we know in Ephesus He baptized 12
Yes.
Baptism is mandatory. It is a command from Jesus. Jesus said if you love me you will keep my commands. Belief leads to baptism.
Tez
Water, spirit, or fire?
So, are you saying baptism is essential for salvation?
I would add John 3:38 says the opposite of belief isn't unbelief rather disobedience. If I believe ill obey. There is so much I could say about the holes in what he says and I love John Piper so much, but he is so wrong and doesn't see. May God have mercy on us all! Signed a Calvinist turned Catholic. Look up a guy named Scott Hahn.
@@mr.c2485 You need to be born of the water(baptism) and spirit(Holy spirit). John 3:5
@@tez817 "born of water" in the passage in John is referring to natural birth. Not baptism.
Obedience= Faith Heb. 3
16 For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses? 17 Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? 18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey? 19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Do we get married in a public place among men as an act of faith in God? Or do we believe in live-in relationships because marriage is only an act?
Is it not natural for us humans? We want to live in families. Our nature is that way. You have children and you love and worry about them,,,, by natural law, God's law. The rituals are nothing.
Heck yeah it does! If you read Rom 6 and Col 2:11,12 and take them literally, you will see that baptism does indeed save - it saves you from the power of sin and through it you are regenerated. Note that Piper, being Calvinist, cannot accept that baptism causes regeneration because Calvinists believe regeneration is given by God in order for a person to have faith. But the scriptures teach that faith precedes baptism which precedes regeneration.
Baptism doesn't save us. Faith in Christ saves, or grace of God through faith in Christ alone. But that being said, if we have been justified by faith in Chrisr, I believe we ought to be baptized to make that declaration of faith and show the world we are not ashamed.
juan sebastian Diaz you are probably either a oneness heretic or a Stone-Campbellite. Either way, your salvation is works based and you will surely fail. Turn from your works and trust in Christ.
@juan sebastian Diaz im not arguing but let me ask you this, someone that believes that Jesus is the Son of God, the Christ, the Holy Spirit comes into them, indwelling them, changing them, if they do not get baptized, they are going to Hell? So the person who does believe truly but does not get baptized isnt actually saved by the grace of God through faith alone in Christ and His redemptive work on the cross, this man is just delusional? You are only saved by grace through faith in Christ if you then get baptized?
@juan sebastian Diaz in acts the Holy Spirit fell on the gentiles when they heard and believed Peter's msg or Christ before baptism. Paul told the jailer when he said tell me how to be saved, "believe in the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved." Now I know both were baptized after that and I am not saying that we should be baptized but I am saying that we are saved by Gods grace through faith in Christ alone, baptism comes after belief and the Holy Spirit comes into our lives. I'm not saying we shouldn't bebaptized, I believe we should but I am saying that to me and what I read overall is that believing in Christ is what saves us. The book of John Jesus tells us over and over to believe in Him. John 3:16, whosoever believes...
@juan sebastian Diaz I do - and I trust the WHOLE counsel of His word. And the common thread of salvation is not baptism, but FAITH. Turn from the self-righteous works of the Stone-Campbell/Oneness movement and trust in Christ.
who feels it know it more i felt my aelf waterbaptism was crying in luv so so much and repentant many emotions rifht as i came up out of the water Halleluyah!!!
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles?
1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying.
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Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptize shall be save
Read the verse after
Hm Mark 16:16 is like Believe + Baptise = Saved , Unbelieve + Unbabtised = Unsaved (obviously) , Unbelieve + Baptise = Unsaved !! , Believe + Unbabtise = ? the last conclusion is not really answered in Mark 16:16 in my opinion.
But I tend to have a similar opinion on that as John Piper does. If it's possible the bible really prompts you to be baptized in water. But if it's not possible, for example, someone who turns to Jesus and believes on the death bed just goes to heaven as the thief on the cross did. Otherwise, if you still obligate it in such situations it really fast goes into lovelessness, in some catholic cultures, it was common to cut open a childbearing woman at any practical area of the body just to "rescue" a child by baptizing it before it dies. Otherwise, it would go into hell the women always bled to death that just though law without love and to me pretty much Jesus' parable of the cow which stuck in the fountain on the sabbath.
I can believe that something written in the Bible is true without believing that I should do that something. When the Bible implicitly gives a command to every man, I must believe it and obey it (James 1:17-22). But the Bible contains more than commands to be followed today, for example, commands to individuals. When God commanded Noah to build an ark, that instruction was not meant for every Christian (Genesis 6:14). Why? Because the flood had already come. There is no need to build an ark today. Likewise, the purpose for miracles has ended: Jesus already proved He is the Son of God; the Bible is complete; and there are no more apostles; therefore, we don’t need miracles and Christians today are not subject to Mark 16:17-18. We must believe, because it is scripture, that the believers were authenticated by miracles in the first century. However I must not believe that these miracles are for me to prove my faith because the word of God and my works prove my faith for me (Romans 10:17, James 2:17-20).
@@kac0404 Can you explain what gospel the thief on the cross obeyed according to Hebrews 4:2?
We are spirit soul and body. Our spirit is saved our soul is being saved and our bodies will be redeemed and we will be like Jesus. When we call on Jesus believing with our whole being and deciding to follow Jesus for our lifetime then we become a child of god . No true believe in Jesus will refuse to do his first commandment to be baptized. Baptism always followed immediately after believing and repentance.and is always full immersion. Saint Peter commanded all the believers in Cornelius household to be baptized in water or into Jesus act 10:48.
It’s amazing why Protestants and Catholics will not even be obedient to Jesus first commandment which is He that believes and is baptized will be saved. They put more trust in mans traditions than what Jesus said. A Protestant is really a reformed Catholic but we have to go back to the apostles doctrines in the Acts church. We’ve to skip the rubbish that has gone on since Constantine and obey Jesus. Be living stones of the spiritual temple as we come to Jesus 1 Peter 2:4. He that believes and is baptized will be saved Mark 16;16. Saint Peter commanded all the the spirit filled believers in Cornelius house to be baptized in water which is full immersion
We dont need to be baptized by water as a compulsion . Baptism to according to the bible is repentance and a willing heart to change towards god. Ur heart is what matter not what's outside
Teckson// Thevibranium what did Jesus say? He that believes and is baptized will be saved. Mark 16:16.If a person refuses to do Jesus first commandment how will he do the greater works mentioned in John 14:12. Saint Peter commanded the believers in Cornelius house to be baptized after they were born again and filled with the Holy Spirit. . You are right you maybe saved and go to heaven without being baptized but why would you ignore what Jesus commanded? Baptism always followed immediately after believing and repentance and was always full immersion in water (because it is a burial of your old man Romans 6:2-6.)The Holy Spirit baptizes us into Christ body in baptism 1 Corinthians 12:13.using other believers or disciples who know what baptism is. There are no symbols or rituals in the New covenant for Christ Jesus is the substance Colossians 2:17. Go and get baptized like the 3000 believers did in Acts 2:41.without argument. Jesus knows best.All blessings from Ireland. Torben on youtube is great teacher on baptism.
In Acts 2:38 Peter is addressing Jews....not Gentiles. The instruction was to be baptized first, then receive the holy spirit. But let's remember that the Book of Acts is historical narrative and teaches a transition from the OT salvation for the Jews to the NT salvation to both Jews and Gentiles. Why did it go form just Jews to now Jews and Gentiles? Because the Jews rejected their kingdom and cut themselves off from it until the end time tribulation. Their rejection of the kingdom opened the door for the Gentiles and Paul received a new revelation of the Gospel that provided Jews an opportunity to still get saved while providing Gentiles salvation. This new revelation Paul received is salvation by Grace through Faith apart from the law of Moses. Acts 13:39; Romans 4:5-12; Ephesians 2:8-9
SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
JESUS to Jews: Faith and obedience to the law is imputed as righteousness. Matthew 7:21-23; Luke 6:26
PAUL to Gentiles: Faith apart from obedience to the law is imputed as righteousness. Acts 13:39; Romans 4:5-12; Ephesians 2:8-9
The first Gentiles who were saved came 9 years after Acts 2:38 and Cornelius received the holy spirit before he was baptized in Jesus name. There was no water present, so Peter asks the Jews that were with him a rhetorical question: would anyone deny them water to be baptized? It's rhetorical because there is no water. Of course no one would deny them water if they could have because they already witnessed Cornelius receive the holy spirit....so why would they deny him water for baptism....IF THERE WAS WATER....which there wasn't. So Cornelius and his household were baptized into Jesus name. They were in someone's house...there was no body of water to baptize anyone.
In Act 22:16 Paul is recalling his conversion experience in Acts 9 in which the scales fell from his eyes in Acts 9:17-18. Paul receives the spirit in verse 17 by the laying on of hands. Then it states that Paul got up and was Baptized. They were in someone's house....there was no body of water there. This couldn't have been water Baptism. Paul was Baptized into Jesus name without water. We do know Paul received the spirit before being baptized into the name of Jesus. I examined all the Baptisms that take place in the Book of Acts and I can say for certain there is no set pattern for Baptism that one can take as a ritual or ordnance for all times. Using Acts as a basis for Church Age doctrines that apply to the Body of Christ is a recipe for heresy.
Water Baptism was for the Jews....not for the Gentiles.
The Book of Acts teaches us about a transition that took place from Peter's Gospel for the Jews to Paul's Gospel for both Jews and Gentiles.
The transition is marked by Paul's preaching in Acts 13 and throughout the rest of Acts.
Acts 13:39 contains a message from Paul that none of the Twelve Apostles preached in Acts.
Salvation became faith apart from works of the law for the first time in Acts 13:39
Prior to that, salvation was by faith plus works of the law.
Four years after Acts 13:39 Paul told Peter about the revelation of the Gospel he received (see Acts 15). Then in Acts 21, another 8 years later, we still find the remaining Eleven Apostles are teaching Jews obedience to the law of Moses.
Paul does not teach water Baptism. Paul teaches ONE BAPTISM ONLY....and it's the spirit baptism that takes place when a person believes (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).
If water baptism saves, then Jesus died for nothing and Paul is a liar.
Now tell me what you believe about Baptism.
I believe God said to do it, so I do it.
You gave me a headache
The salvation started with the Jews my friend, then to the Gentile read Acts 10 the First Gentile to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and received his spirit. In the house of a Italian man
Do you not understand that the word "FAITH" is a verb in the ancient Greek text?
"BELIEVE" is an umbrella word that includes FAITH, BAPTISM AND OBEDIENCE.
Jesus was baptized by John the ‘Baptizer’ as well!!
JESUS Anchor of my SOUL KatherineT this was a baptism of repentance but it wasn’t being baptized into Jesus Acts 19 explains this. Nobody could be baptized into Jesus until Jesus had died and buried and risen and ascended
Sean Rath I will read that- thanks
JESUS Anchor of my SOUL KatherineT thanks and be continuously blessed in Jesus name.
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles?
1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying.
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Only jesus can give you salvation, its good to be baptized but its not going to get you to heaven, your salvation comes through jesus christ and jesus christ alone.
Perfect: baptism is an expression of faith. However, we must affirm that the expression of your faith made by God is the receiving of the Holy Spirit. In Acts 20, Paul encounters two men who were baptized but who lacked the Holy Spirit. They were baptized again in the name of Jesus and in doing so they received the Holy Spirit. They were baptized yet they had never “heard” of Jesus. Faith comes by hearing
Is not water baptism a symbol of getting washed from the lies and doctrines and ideas of truth that you tainted yourself with in the world? You must do what John the Baptist says. Make the roads straight. Repent. Empty your cup. Be clean like a little child. Stop claim to know God. Stop profess to be wise.
@@LevaISanningen actually, no. It is not as you profess, "...a symbol of getting washed from the lies and doctrines and ideas of truth that you tainted yourself with in the world."
@@astheskylarksings... No? So you should run around claiming to know it all? Pointing your finger at everybody, calling them bad? Is that Christ? Is that being humble?
@@LevaISanningen Well, only if you assume that not being washed as you describe results in claiming to know it all, pointing fingers, and calling people bad. But I think that is false equivalency. As for Christ and humility, it takes a large amount of humility to profess oneself "saved" in the name of Jesus Christ. I can't imagine someone being able to profess that who is not humbled first. At the same time, humility is a life-long journey
@@astheskylarksings .... humility is a life-long journey!!! Amen to that.
It is a walk with God. And walking in darkness seems to be a part of that walk.
You see, GOD dwells in thick darkness. You have to get dirty when you look for gold.
Gods Kingdom is like a treasure, hidden in a mans field. Like a light seen only in darkness.
If you or me are walking in darkness now,,, then it is all ok.
The scripture says Except a man be born in water and spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God..so water baptism is one factor to be consider inorder to be save
If you read the next verse my friend, it explains what Christ meant by being born if water. He was speaking of being born into this world by water, and being born again by the Holy Spirit. That was the main topic of discussion in the conversation between Christ and Nicodemus, being born again.
God bless you.
@@peytonsingh6258 You clear my question which I had longtime ago.
THE ACTS 1:5, Jesus said, for John truly baptized you with water, but you will baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.
Acts 1:5 is talking to the apostoles. They were going to be baptized w the H.S. so they can know the gospel and talk in different tongues which is languages so they can preach it to all the different nations present at Pentacost. The apostoles then preached water baptism for remission of sins just as Christ commanded them to. Mat 28:19 Mark 16:16 Luke 24:45-47. Acts 2:36-38,41,47. God bless
yes, He who believes and is babptise in water and spirit shall be saved.
I still believe baptism is crucial for being saved!!
Then salvation is works. How can a person lying in the hospital bed hours from his death be saved? So even if he accepted the gospel repented, and put his trust in Jesus Christ، he would still be unsaved? What about the thief on the cross? So the work of Christ is not complete, it requires your act of getting into the water to get saved?
@@perrytheplatypus7661 "Then salvation is by works." No one believes that baptism is a meritorious act that can obligate God to save you. Baptism is God's work in the sinner, not the sinner's work. I also find this argument ironic because baptism is very easy. You don't do anything except let someone else dunk you in water. Faith, however, is very hard because it goes against our sin nature. If baptism is a work, faith would have to be a work too.
"How can a person lying in a hospital bed hours from his death be saved?" Historically immersion has been the preferred method of baptism, but pouring was considered acceptable in cases where immersion was impossible (see, for example, an early church document called the Didache).
"So even if he accepted the gospel [and] repented, and put his trust in Jesus Christ, would he still be unsaved?" The baptismal regeneration position acknowledges God's mercy in cases where baptism was truly impossible. But even if God decided to damn everyone who never received baptism, would you be able to accuse him of being unjust? If not, then you have no argument, because that's the worst case scenario.
"What about the thief on the cross?" The command to baptize was given to the apostles in the great commission, which was AFTER the thief's death. No one believes that all people for all time needed baptism. It is only for the post-pentacost age of the church.
"So the work of Christ is not complete, it requires your act of getting into the water to get saved?" Any argument that can be turned around and used against you as well is not a good argument. One could just as easily say, "So you think the work of Christ is incomplete, because it requires your faith?" And then you're stuck with universalism. Everyone who's not a Universalist puts some kind of prerequisite on salvation. That doesn't mean the work of Christ is incomplete. It just means that God has chosen a particular means of salvation.
To conclude, I think this question is usually asked incorrectly. The correct question is not whether baptism is necessary or not, because even those who accept baptismal regeneration believe that it is possible in some cases to be saved without it, baptism is just the ORDINARY means of regeneration. The correct question is what happens in baptism--nothing, or a miracle of regeneration? I've been reading a lot of early church writings lately, and I haven't found one church father who didn't believe in baptismal regeneration. See, for example, "On Baptism" by Tertullian, "On the Lapsed" by Cyprian, and "Chatechetical Lectures" by Cyril of Jerusalem.
Catholic ?
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No sir
@@perrytheplatypus7661 bruuuhhhhh. if God can create the whole world, send a flood and bring us into existence he can get someone to some water to be baptised. and bro mark 2:10 Jesus had the power to forgive sin while here on earth, even on the cross. and yes Baptism is an act but its an act of God (col 2:12) please ask for my DM if you really want to talk about this, because id love to chat
Gosh! This is the best explanation I've heard.
Do I need to be re-baptized because I used to be a member of the mormon church?
Definitely, in the name of Jesus.
Yes, the 'Jesus' in Mormonism is not at all the true Jesus of the Bible (the one that's truly saves sinners from sin and death and brings about within us newness of life). Now that you've come to know the true Christ, I'd highly recommend you be re-baptized in accordance to Jesus' instructions in Matt. 28:19.
For "there is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your callings; one Lord, one faith, one BAPTISM, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all." (Eph. 4:4-6)
@@twentyfourthrones thank you for your response!
Robert Carter 1Peter 2:24 He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin. Hebrews 9:22 Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness
THE DEATH OF THE SINNER
2 Timothy 2:11 If we have died with Him, we will also live with Him
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ
Jesus died literally on the cross to pay the judicial price for our sins. The sinner died representatively through Jesus, this paying our judicial price for sin. OUR SIN CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNLESS we have died with Christ. We are united with Christ in His death. We have been crucified with Christ. We have died to sin.
When does God view you as United with Christ in His death? Crucified with Christ? When in your faith do you die to sin and die with Christ? Romans 6:3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Vs 4 We have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. John 3:5 Unless one is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 2 Corinthians 5:17 if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature. Acts 2:37-38 Now when they heard this they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles. Brethren what shall we do? Peter said to them Repent and each one of you be baptized FOR the remission of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Matthew 28: 19-20 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo I am with you always, even to the end of the age.Mark 16:16 Jesus said He who believes AND is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned
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Lord help all those people in the mission field to find out they are knocking on Heaven door, sorry no water hose, no baptism, no Heaven.
The Bible commands everyone to be baptized in more than one location but in the Book of Acts which tells the facts of the beginning of Christianity, Jesus told them after His crucifixion to go to a certain location and wait for further spiritual instruction. The Holy Ghost baptism occurred and the people in the surrounding area asked what was happening. Peter explained that the fulfillment of the plan of salvation was happening and they asked what must they do to be saved and he told them what they must do, Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized in Jesus Name and they shall receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost. So repent, be baptized in water, receive Holy Ghost (Spirit). Other places in the Bible it specifically says believers are to be baptized and those whom believe do not will be damned. Jesus Himself was baptized and He is our Example.
I love the Way, I cannot understand why others fight it. I guess it darkness and they cannot see and hear.
SD amen. This is Jesus first commandment. Believe and be baptized. Babies are never baptized but believers only.and baptism always happens immediately after believing and is always full immersion into water (Christ Jesus)
Why wouldn’t you want to Baptized? Jesus was Baptized, Piper knows nothing, that analogy he made up sounded stupid, and made no sense! A true bible teacher is Mike Desario teaching on U - Tube.
Can you explain what gospel the thief on the cross obeyed according to Hebrews 4:2?
@@christrescuedme2182 The Bible was not compiled into a continuous form at that time for one thing, but primarily the Church had not been established since the sacrifice at the time of Jusus ' declaration had not been completed or the resurrection. The thief died under the covenant of the Old Testament at that time and the actions which were happening at that moment. Jesus the man is the Son of God with the Spirit of God Incarnate. The Baptism of the Holy Ghost as a part of the New Covenant was not initiated until the upper room experience later which established the New Testament Church. The thief was forgiven through his repentance which Jesus as God could see. God looks on the heart while man looks on the outward appearance. You are trying to place the thief on the cross experience into a different covenant.
Saved, justified and being united to Christ is the same when used in the context of salvation. That is when we believe. Baptism does not save, it is simply the answer of a good conscience toward God.
man, some people really hate grace
This comment lacks “grace” actually.
@@astheskylarksings.... Yes, we humans are nearly incapable of that. All we say is more like filth.
@@LevaISanningen Speak for yourself. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ. Those who are in Christ reflect the words of Christ, and his word are far from filthy.
@@astheskylarksings.. Ok. Well, I don't like to uplift myself and claim to be filled with a better spirit than others. I don't know if I am saved. It is not for my lips to say so. I let someone else praise me, if I ever deserved it.
@@LevaISanningen You say you don't "know." Faith is higher than knowledge. Having faith in what Jesus did on the cross is more than enough reason for you to profess yourself saved. And glory to God that we don't profess it because we "know" it; we, instead, profess it from our faith. As for you, I think I have you pegged, and I say this to you, if you think that your conduct (your sin) can overpower the grace of God and the invitation to be a son or daughter of God then you're right, for you are still speaking and thinking as one under the law. But if, instead, you abide in the truth, which is our conduct comes nowhere near to affecting grace and that grace abounds then you can be freed from the guilt and shame that you are currently steeped in. But don't forget that guilt and shame for it will keep you walking in repentance instead of turning away.
Paul said: For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: The thief on the cross asked Jesus to simply remember me when you enter into your kingdom- Jesus didn't require him to be baptized. Salvation is a person, with nothing to do with water.
Jesus was baptized. So if we are going to follow Him we need to be baptized. Acts 2:38 it's part of the process. It's that simple. We are told to be baptized for the remission of our sins so why wouldn't we do it. Plus baptism is not a work because you're not baptizing yourself. There are plenty of scriptures that say be baptized so don't put it on the back burner. If you're able to get baptized and not hanging on a cross then do it. Jesus was baptized you need to be to.
QUICK 2 QUESTIONS FOR YOU: 1) How come Paul did not baptize gentiles?
1Corinthians 1:16.17 watch the video below , it has a different Hebraic perspective of baptism. 2) Is Matthew 28:19 referring to Holy Spirit baptism or water baptism? it does not specify it. I don't think we suppose to assume and fill out the blanks. But context will help a lot lot figure it out. Paul is the context along with the OT prophets . If you think Paul is not legit then why are his letters part of the NT writings? Just saying.
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What of those who will be left behind and come to Christ after the rapture? Or those in prison? Disabled? How are they to be baptized?? 🤔
Don’t add to the text.
We are saved by grace through faith.
Jesus said if you love me you will keep my commandments (John 14:15), the word of God says repent and get baptized. Jesus is the Word of God, so if you love Him then just do what He says, we can trust Him!
I WAS BAPTIZED AS A BABY ❤️ I DID RECEIVE THE BAPTISM IN THE HOLYSPIRIT AND HAVE THE GIFT OF SPEAKING IN TONGUES I ALSO BEEN FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT 🌾🥀🕊️🥀🌾 💜 ✝️💜 🤗🥀🕊️🥀 🕊️😇
MARIE PETERSON
Me too! Praise Krishna! The author and finisher of our faith.
@@mr.c2485 AMEN🤗🥀🕊️🥀
krishna?
so many things wrong here
Here is what the scripture says... This is the conversion of the Eunuch... The eunch asked what doth hinder me to be baptized... If you believe then you may and he confessed Jesus as the son of God and he was baptized. Little babies are not capable of understanding. You can read the ingredients on the back of your shampoo to a baby depending on how you say it... depends on the reaction you get from them. You can't be baptized unto God by hearing lies about him. How can they hear unless there is someone to speak it to them the bible says. Infant baptism is at the very best ineffectual.
In what book was the New Testament Church Birthed? It was Conceived in the Gospels and Birthed in one book only and that was in the book of Acts to the Jews, Acts 2: 37-38 Samaritans 1yr later in Acts 8:12-17 the Gentiles 8yrs later Acts 10: 44-48 Religious people Baptized under John the Baptist were rebaptized in Jesus Name 22yrs later in Acts 19: 1-7. In every EXAMPLE they were all Baptized (Only Believing is not Salvation but part of it) there is no example of a sinner only believing and being saved. John 3 Nicodemus asked and Jesus said no man will enter Into the kingdom unless your are BORN AGAIN of the Water and the Spirit. The Gospel is not only Believing but it is fulfilled by the Death Burial and Resurrection. There is no example in the whole Bible of not One Soul being added to the New Testament Church by just believing. The only example is in the book of Acts. Not in any of the Gospels or Epistles. Mark 16: 15-16 clearly says that if you dont believe and are not Baptized you are damned this is the Great Commission in another words BAPTISM IS VERY NECESSARY. Why do people make it hard to understand it is so simple and in chronological order The end of every Gospel book Mathew Mark Luke and John Commands this because this is the very purpose why Jesus came. It points to Acts where the New Testament Church is Birthed. The Epistles dont even apply to you until you go thru ACTS the Epistles are to the Churches already established and confirmed the book of Acts. We are buried with Jesus and take on his name in Baptism. If you only believe it is a good thing but you must finish in Repentance/ Death in Burial/ Baptism and Resurrection/ Holy Spirit as a new Creature in christ we must put on Christ thru the Holy Ghost bearing Fruit and strive to obtain the Gifts of the Spirit. Jesus is the Old Testament Tabernacle do t you k ow that the Alter of Sacrifice is a type of Repentance and the Brazen Alter of water is Baptism you can not enter I to the court untill the Blood of your sacrifice is washed before you put on a new spotless robe. The Veil was ripped from top to bottom so we can communicate with the Almighty himself. This only believing and saying a sinners Prayer is unbiblical and incomplete for basic Salvation. No one gives credit to the book of Acts and no where in the Bible does it say that it is only to the Apostolic Age Church. It is still a commandment and applies today. Who gave anyone authority to even suggest that? The Bible needs not to defend itself, because it is the living word of God. So I say where I'd this Doctrine of only believe and you are saved co e from? TV Evangelist because they could not physically Baptize a person they would tell them to put their hand o. The screen and repeat these words (sinners prayer) and that qualifies you as being saved. This took off and now it is considered as a truth. It is simply un biblical and deceiving. There isn't even any power well maybe for a week or two but no real saving power. Therefore I ask p,ease stop this false Doctrine of just saying or believing and your saved because it is unbiblical and false. Obey Acts 2:37-38
Mark 16:16 and 1 peter 3:20 enough said.
Amen, thank you
We all have sinned and fell short of the glory to God. The problem is, that God is holy and doesn’t live with sin. So we all deserve to go to hell, but Jesus paid the price so you don’t have to. All you have to do is confess Jesus as your savior and repent (turn from all sin) and you’ll can have eternal life.
What I have come to believe about Baptism:
1) Does the physical act alone save you? NO, without faith it is no different than recreation or diving in a swimming pool.
2) Are we saved by faith alone? YES, with saving faith being defined as having a repentant heart.
3) Is the refusal to be baptized a sign of a lack of faith? VERY POSSIBLY
I know some "professing christians" that have never been baptized:
1) One group very much wants to be, but for circumstances or ignorance have never done it.
2) The other group has no desire or intention to be baptized, and actually argues against the necessity of it.
Now why would any sincere believer not want to be baptized? I don't think they would, so I would question the sincerity of their belief. This is one reason I believe baptism is important. It marks a definable line in the sand that separates group #1 from group #2. As Pastor John said, it is an outward expression of an internal faith. While many will make easy verbal professions of faith, fewer people are willing to make that outward physical expression.
Does anyone doubt the thief on the cross would readily be baptized had he the physical ability to do so? Of course he would .
I don't think we should play the game of trying to deconstruct Peter's instructions to Repent and Be Baptized. Instead, just OBEY it.
Yes it is