Flight after 4 hours Training? No WAY!
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Check out Dustin & Todd learning to fly paramotors.
Click here to skip to Dustin's first solo 14:11
Click here to skip to Todd's solo 03:55
Thanks for watching, be safe out there!
Flights 164-169
Stay tuned for the next video where I'll be giving away more free paramotor stickers!
#paramotor #flight #ppg #ppgpilot
Talk about a SUPER student! ;-)
Hahahaha, ah I truly didn't think that one single word would trigger that priceless lolcow!
Don't think so. Dell isn't going to let me fly until like day 7. But I have never kited at all so I guess I need it. I'm assuming the 4 hour guy had already kited somewhere? That helps.
More instructors need this kind of mentality and understanding. Kudos Marc.
Nothing wrong with a fast learner. Hey, if you’re safe and ready, SEND IT! Just be careful to not get cocky. The quick learning of a natural pilot is awesome but it is no replacement for actual experience. Fly often, be safe and have a blast!
Great one, Marc! The voice of your student makes me want to get a nice whiskey.... Courageous man!
I did self training, I had 5 hrs of kiting when I did my first flight, no one in my ear
Adventure S98 Nice job!
As a current PPG student, watching videos like this is not only helpful and informative, but they really help build my mental confidence - especially given I've had some setbacks in training, due to unforeseen and unfortunate external 'events'. ;-) Great video Marc
vaprex Helpful, informative and entertaining, that's my goal. You got this, fly safe man!
Congratulations Dustin & Todd, Hard work pays off!!!
Four hours in YOUR presence. We don't know how many hours he spent learning to kite before he got to you. You can watch videos all day but at the end of that day you still have to perform. So four hours, before anyone gets ticked is only four hours that we know of. Congrats to BOTH of you guys !!
Wayne Everett he watched videos but it was his first 4 hours with a wing and motor. He raced ATV before so the coordination was there. I don’t think it’s hard to launch and land, or fly for that matter m, when conditions are perfect.
@@MarcAmenson They weren't when I was at BlackHawk in Oct. Blue Skies!
Good instruction and great to see the pilots making progress.
Mark from Florida here shouting out to you Mark , Awesome training Mr., Great job flying to those new pilots, Mark we must get together soon and slice up the air together . Cool times
Damn. those two strokes are loud as hell! Congrats guys!! enjoy life in all 3 dimensions.
Sweet! Hours by themselves isn't as important as the quality of those hours. Kudos gents!!!
Very nice Marc!...you have a really good way with your students! Nice vid!!
Larry K WPPGA World Champion thanks Larry, it’s all about safety and flying. 👍
Thanks again for that tool pack info Marc! Ones on the way!
Yes absolut perfekt l Love this play too I watching this from Germany ! thanks appreciate folks
I'm "self" learning ground handling with an old wing (airwave wave). I know its frowned upon in this sport but the way I see it is I can learn 50% of what I need to know from youtube and get a head start for when the lockdown ends to get some real 121 instruction and hopefully get in the air as soon as I can travel. I'm thinking of posting clips online to let the experts of UA-cam criticize the hell out if it. I Should get some productive comments as well as a few insults no doubt.
I think that's a good way to go. There's a lot you can learn from watching videos and practicing on your own. Then when you're ready to fly, get a good instructor to make sure you're doing things safely and help you get your first flights. The key is to learn the correct habits, and fix any bad habits you may have formed on your own. All the best!
Nice done ...Good teaching ..nice done!
Nice job bud. These guys made it look easy. Still can’t get you eating that spider out of my head lol. Palm bay was a blast. It was a pleasure meeting you. Hope Bad Apples works out.
Congrats Todd! And Dustin! I have a wing myself practicing my kiting skills. Someday I will train and get up there 👍🏻
Out of curiosity which wing do you have? I started out Paragliding well over a Decade ago. Riding Thermals and Ridges un-powered is very relaxing after hiking up a mountain. With the right wing you can use it powered or unpowered. Like my current Ozone Buzz Z4 wing. For a 2012 wing it's held up rather well.
Great informative video. Thanks for posting
My please, hope you found some useful info.
You're a natural born teacher. Keep it up!
Dawn Patrol PPG Thanks buddy! Hopefully I keep getting better and better. It's fun seeing new pilots fly, almost as fun as actually flying. Have fun fly camping!!!
Mark From Florida Here,. How has Dustin been doing with his flying since the vid
Mark * He was doing great until he sold his paramotor yesterday. He kept his wing, and wants to just fly one of my extra units now I guess.
@@MarcAmenson That's Funny, Super Cool he is still with it. A friend in need is a friend in deed. Enjoy you guys.
Wondering how Todd and Dustin are loving or leaving the hobby these days? Great job y’all
Good question! Dustin sold his setup and now asks to borrow one of mine. Not sure about Todd, had a hand injury at work and that kept him grounded for quite a while.
Awesome..i love my top 80 I'm 180 and it flys me no sweat.
Enjoying The Sun 577-Jersey Customs Great motor, Dustin loves his. So quite and smooth!
Welcome salido beach my buddy 🙏😆😀😂😁
Cool vid, great watch, im at ground handling stage looking forward to first flight. Weather here in UK is crap at moment
I didn't see any of those students climb up the side of a trailer. Dell is going to be so mad. When you said "what do you think Robert?" I answered out loud. Thought I was with you guys for a minute there. lol
Told you he would be mad...
Robert, training is not a joke and you should know better. I know for a fact that you have talked to pilots on your show that would never condone such a short amount of training. In fact what I have heard many of them say is that you should spend a lot of time kiting to improve your skills and stay safe. You seem like a good dude to me but when you join the Dell haters and say things like you did here I just feel disappointed in you. Dell trains his students well and I would know as I am one of them. Taking the time to master your glider is never wrong and having the level of skill needed to "kite up a trailer" could only ever help you as a pilot.
Robert Michiels has dell had any students die ???
VanyaD Dell came at me all crazy for talking about paragliding. He was insulting and brash. You know how passionate I am about flying and safety. If dell is your friend, that's cool. He's not winning a friend in me because of his poor way with words. Go back and listen to what marc said in this video. This was not Marc enlisting people to fly without any training. These guys were learning everything they could before they got under the wing. If you really care, join our conversation on paragliding talk tonight when we go live. I will give you my number and you can call into the show. I am willing to bet that Marc will be moderating. The show starts at 6pm pacific time.
Robert Michiels I agree with you 💯% and that’s a big fat NO on liking DELL lol !!!!! I can’t afford to get into paramotors for awhile....so just reading and watching videos about it for now!! And there is some amazing people in the sport like yourself and the gentleman that made this video ! Y’all are the kind of people I want to follow and learn from ! not like captain Kunt or death by dell !!!!!!!!!!!!! I found a great guy in my area that flys and gives paramotor lessons and he said I can hangout with him and watch them fly so I’m pumped about that!!! I’ll try to find the show tonight and watch yas! Keep being cool and not like Dell lol if y’all was in driving distance of me I’d love to hangout and watch y’all fly
Dustin must have stayed at a holiday Inn. 🤣🤣
Great job guys, all of you. Nice field too
good job!! both.
Looks like a couple of easy students. I'm a little jealous! ;)
Awsome video Marc, I always look forward to yours and Kyle O's, Tuckers and Matt M. videos for learning. One comment about the take offs. A young man was killed on take off when he was getting in his seat. He used his hands while brakes were not stowed. He stalled his wing..... So just make sure students are aware not to pull brake down when trying to get into seat.Sounds like common since but in the excitement of the moment you don't always think straight. Keep Flying and stay safe.
Ashley Evans I love watching those guys videos also! I'll have some more coming out very soon. About the stowing the brakes when getting into the seat, that is one of the most important items that I discuss with the students. I heard about the incident of the person stalling when getting into the seat and share that with the students in the simulator and prior to flight. Thanks for stopping by and have a great day!
Yes, guys, he worked really hard, in 4 hours.
When Dells students crash or die they are suddenly not his students.
Who did you train under and how long have ya been paramotoring sir?? You seem like a great teacher
Crazy Kuup Thanks! I have my PPG3 rating and I'm in Wisconsin. I'm a high school and college teacher also. I always wanted to be a teacher as a kid and I really love helping people learn new things. 👍
Marc Amenson that’s awesome and paramotoring needs more people like yourself!!
Great work Marc... hope to catch up in fall here sometime
Here I spent $2500 and 10 days kiting on a beach in Texas and still didn't get to fly!! This guy trains for 4 hours and bought Marc a beer and he's airborne, I'm FN jealous! Some people are defiantly naturals. BE CAREFUL!!!
David65702 I think it's so important to do the 4 major physical steps 1. Kiting 2. Power Walking 3. Simulator/hang test 4. Motor on back kiting. Then add perfect weather and huge airfield, boom! Recipe for success. After that it's a lot of stuff like weather, aeronautics, meteorology, maintenance etc. all things that are important also but can be learned through videos and books.
David65702, If you actually did go to Super Training and you didn't fly it was because you were not ready period. Dell does not put people in the air who are not ready. How is that a bad thing? I think that instructors should care enough to train students all the way and if they are still not ready to fly then instructors should say as much. Taking a little longer to master the skills you need to stay safe is never the wrong thing to do. Most likely though you are just trolling.
I actually did go to super training 2 years ago in June, I never said it was Dell's fault I twisted my knee 3 days before the end of training and was never the same I could have flown the last day but the winds where to much for me, half the students never made it in the air so I don't feel like a total loser, it was because of Dell's training that I am flying today I fly a trike but I'm flying because of super training and about 8 to10 hours of Dave Jewell's training finished me off and I was flying, that's how close I was to flying at super training. Only blaming myself, maybe his style of training wasn't the best for me, Mo was ready in 2 days.
David65702, sorry bro, I misunderstood what you were saying. That sucks that you took an injury and didn't get to fly during class. I am also a Super Student as of earlier this year. You were in the same class as Mo? That's cool. I met him at my Super Training.
@@DellSchanze bro 500 flights in 10 days is like 50 flights a day. You okay, boss?
thats awesome!
great video. students looked good.
Congrats on the firsts!
Great instructor. Competent student. Its not Rocket Science guys, sorry. Everyone enjoy the video and work on your own craft.
Due to the fact that paragliding and powered paragliding has not caught on yet in New England I have been left to my own devices without an instructor in my area, I have been practicing kiting long enough to where I have it down to a science and I do very well, I run and on a metal fabrication business and I built my own para motor unit, following instructions purchased online, I’m just waiting for the perfect day and I am going to take it on my first solo flight, I only wish I had an experienced person to go over my gear with me and make sure that everything was in perfect order
Fearless Fred What state are you in? There’s instructors in the New England area.
Marc Amenson Marc I’m in N.Billerica Massachusetts. 25 miles north of Boston and real. Close to ski country, the mountain region in nh.
Nice. Some people are just naturals at it.
Oh and eeeew, old 2000+ gram Wood props. Once you go 500g 125cm Carbon fiber E-Prop(the real ones made in France, not the cheap E-Bay Chinese knock offs) you'll never want anything else on your motor ever again. Quicker throttle response alone is worth it not to mention more fuel efficiency for longer flight times.
This isn’t rocket science! Mostly common sense and a understanding of how things work and a understanding of what not to do. And practice! These guys have done most of the ground work for their self.
Jeffro31 Best Totally agree!
Awesome man!
Nicely done!
Larry K Thanks Larry! They did a great job!
It takes both an exception student and an exception instructor to get them that quickly to that point! So pat yourself on the back as well!
I miss that sweet WI air.
I really like your energy and positivity!
If he didn’t want to get full training then why didn’t he just contact Captain crunch!! 😀
PARA-ADDICT! Not sure what you mean?
He's talking about fister. I wonder if I mighta been a lil too hard on him last year tho, I've met a couple of his students, niether were too thrilled with him but it didn't sound as bad as how some people around here have made him out. He has said some shit in his vids that were not popular, but def on point.
Goin has some shit on his shoes just as well.
Why can’t I find guys like you around me. I have 300 hours on a PPC and I’m now switching to PPG. I want training but like Dustin I have done my research, watched all the videos and I plan to do ground work on my own for many days and hours and then I am wanting some training. No one will do hourly training. They all want $2500-$3500 for full training or nothing. I just don’t think I should have to take the whole course the same one someone who has never flown let alone on their own and someone who has never flown with a parachute or wind conditions and when to fly and when not to like I already have. I just want some training to figure out the differences and safely take my first PPG flight. I am going to be forced to self train which I’m confident I will do great at but I’m trying to take everyone’s advice and get training but I’m not willing to spend thousands of dollars on it. Not with where I’m at with my experience.
It’s very hard for most people to afford the gear AND afford another $3000 for training. Very cost prohibitive in my opinion. That’s why I believe so many people won’t even consider getting into the sport.
@@lyngleslogic1180 ya I was able to find someone who didn’t charge me a arm and a let to transition me. Been flying 8 months ish now. Loving it way more than I did PPC.
Yea I’m just getting into the sport myself. I’ve got a great deal on some lightly used quality equipment but there’s no one too close to me to train with. Ive been reading the PPG Bible version 7 and talking with other pilots and watching a ton of videos. I will likely self train with lots of kiting practice hours but eventually I will take to the skies when confident.
@@lyngleslogic1180 where are you located. Have you looked on the ppgyelp site ?
@@michaelbartlett1589 Southwest Fort Worth TX near Benbrook.
You sound like a good regular guy who is not a windbag like some instructors I've heard. 40 hrs of instruction? I can get my real estate license with that much time.
Frank Coble Thanks man, we definitely don’t rush things and safety is always first. But I agree, 40 hours of kiting is probably more than a new pilot really needs to get into the air and build confidence.
the founder of www.freedomswings.org soloed in a glider after only 24 minutes instruction (he was technically ready at 14) and flew through the process of glider rating commercial rating and instructors rating (glider) in 2 months flat
PM me brother, I want to train with you, I want to get started flying!!
shoot me an email marc@ppgsupply.com
I don't think I can PM you on UA-cam
@@MarcAmenson just emailed you!
Is it safe to drink vodka and fly one of these?
It may be safe, but not legal in the US
I have a single engine land pilots license and this is nothing like flying a plane, or is it? Where can I find info on getting some basic flight instruction in North Carolina???
Try AviatorPPG in florida. Best reputation for training (www.aviatorppg.com) they're booked for around a year, but have an alliance program of other instructors around the country that are less crazy booked up.
Also probably further away but check out Kyle O'Glee in Louisiana. Great videos (search Kyle O into UA-cam) & great instructor.
Edit: it's nothing like flying a plane (much better imho), but after you've learnt the basics, your PPL will stand you in good stead. For recent example this Kyle O vid
ua-cam.com/video/c4oUVkkXsJY/v-deo.html
If you are a disabled Vet contact Resurgenceppg.com. they are in the NC area and could point you in the correct direction.
Thanks for the info
While congrats are in order for your student having been able to fly after only a few hours, I would caution you to at least protect yourself in the future, by having students who opt not to take the full course of training as offered, sign a waver of liability, or they don't fly. This is because, in the future, should the worst happen, regardless of what that student may have promised you in person, his family could come back with a suit against your estate for allowing him to fly without the full course of training. He's an adult, free to make his own decisions, but you just never know, these days. Get with a legal eagle, and have them draw up a standard waver of liability contract which every student must sign, containing a contingency for declination of full course completion. Other than that, thanks for the video.
ThomasGrillo I have all the legal documents signed no matter who it is. If they step on to the field they've already been through all the legal paperwork. Hourly or full training. I appreciate your concern, thank you.
Where are you located
ROSE FREIRE Green Bay, Wisconsin
Congratulations both of you. Uhm no reserve Marc....
Mr Fladder No, people can put them on if they choose. It's not my decision.
True. ;)
I am fine with a guy not training for flight skills... It's just that a lot of locations are being lost, because of GUYS... who never learned. Proper Etiquette!!
It's the one thing learned from being around schools and pilots... that is missed by guys that go solo......
It's killing the sport
Marc, no angry rant here but I do have some thoughts. Paramotor training should never be rushed. Yes it's true that a few here and there will learn faster than others but that is no reason to rush things. This sport is inherently dangerous, as all extreme sports are, and the reality is that not everyone will survive the learning curve. If you want to instruct then you have a responsibility not only to your students but to the sport itself to do everything you can to first master the sport yourself, including putting in the years, and then training students correctly and thoroughly. If they get themselves injured or killed because their training was rushed and they just weren't ready to go out into the world and fly then that is on you. Training should never be taken lightly and I think that four hours is too short by far and just irresponsible. Experience is necessary to fly safe and that will never come quickly or easily and no amount of video watching can substitute for actually hands on training. I am going to ask you a tough question here and I want you to think about it - Do you truly believe you have the experience and skill to instruct? I'm sorry dude but a couple hundred hours of flying really isn't that much and from what I can tell you have rarely if ever had your skills tested by real world scenarios. I just think that you have rushed into being an instructor and you are not ready yet. Get mad at me or ignore me if you want but I hope you will give my words some serious thought.
VanyaD hello and thank you for your comment. Also thank you for respectfully letting me know your opinion. Every instructor has to begin somewhere. Even if I was flying for 10 years and only flew in safe conditions in a safe area then what more what I really know? Are you suggesting that I fly in unsafe conditions so I learn the limits of our sport and that will make me a better instructor? What does Dell Schanze know that makes him so magnificent? How to kite a glider on the ground and fly like a maniac? I am not teaching an acro class, I am not teaching an advanced pilots class, I am teaching new pilots how to safely and confidently fly their gear. I tell all my students upfront exactly where I'm at with experience and what I will be teaching them. I do not take training lightly, and the pilot in this video would have flown on his own with no instruction, so I offered to help. He had already met with another instructor and was definitely not impressed, that's why he came to me. I always appreciate feedback and thank you very much for your viewership!
Marc, no I am not suggesting that you fly in unsafe conditions. What I meant was that you have to challenge yourself to become really skilled. Kiting for short amounts of time in light winds just won't do it. It takes hours and hours and days and days of time kiting in the different modes and in stronger winds to really develop true reflexive response. Once you develop reflexive response you will be infinitely better at preventing and dealing with collapses. Why should all pilots do this? Because even a good pilot on a calm day flying in the morning or evening who is not doing acro can run into trouble so why take the chance. It is not just Dell who says this btw. I have heard this all over from pro paraglider pilots who say that in order to be really skilled in the air and to be really good at preventing and responding to collapses you must put in the time kiting and kiting correctly. Your feelings about Dell have no bearing on the truth of this and I think you should consider that. As for what makes Dell so magnificent? Well, he has spent decades training and learning to fly in every type of weather at every elevation you can fly a paramotor at all over the world. He originally trained with the US paragliding team captain. He was told once by a pro that he was on their top 10 list of those who would die and Dell actually listened to him and corrected his flying. He has had the means to test many, many gliders and paramotors and has a wealth of knowledge about them. I will leave it there but there is more. Anyways, I just believe that learning reflexive response through intensive kiting is necessary, is one of the best ways to keep yourself safe and should be included with any paramotor training. Just some things to think about.
Everything you said here makes total sense. All pilots\students should kite for hours and hours to be as skilled as possible, myself included. I guess the only thing to do is continue kiting and learning, I intend to do that and encourage everyone else to do the same. A wise pilot once told me, "If you're not trying something new, you're not learning." At some point we balance our desire to fly with our desire to sit on the ground with a kiting harness. I will be as safe as I can, and will learn as much as I can, and I hope everyone else does the same. 😀
@@MarcAmenson Hey Marc, this guy texting to you sounds just like Dell, writes really really long responses and says the same stuff over and over and he has no content on his page. Pretty much guaranteed vanyad is Dell... 🤣
I have a friend that had a powermotor given to him. It's about 20 years old, and has been kept inside since new. We were trying to get it started one night, and I noticed the two wooden props were on backwards. Made me wonder if this thing has ever been flown. We We took the props off and turned them around, but one broke, so he has tried to fly it with just one prop. Well, it finally cracked too. The motor sounds like it needs a carb, and we are not real sure what kind of engine it is, or what size prop it needs.My freind has never flown a paramotor, or anything else, but insist he can fly this. I'm afraid he is going to kill himself . He built his own cart for it, but I think this one was made to wear on your back, without a cart. What do you guys think, is he certain to get hurt, or should he just jump on it and give it the gas?
Lee LaFarlett sounds dangerous all around. Tell him to see an instructor. This is flying, do it wrong and you will get hurt, break gear or die. Not worth the risk.
Where do I sign up?
Frankz Coz call me up 92zero 606 442zero
I siloed after 4 hours of training for my pilots license!
Launching after only 4 hours of training I would have soiled. My pants.
How do we contact you? What do you charge?
Where are you at
Frank Coble Green Bay, WI
Anyone else see the Bird at 14:19 ?
Wayne Everett what the heck was that?!?! Never noticed it before. 🦅🦄🤷♂️🐝🦟
Everyone's heard that the bird is the word
Yep.. 6hrs here. What's the big deal.
Right? If you have safe gear, good weather and a safe place to takeoff then the odds are in your favor.
Marc WTF have you started!! WWE brawl Gezzzz
David65702 😂😂😂 Right! It's chaos up in here.
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