I have that same chain guide/bash guard. I didn't have the rubbing issue, but I have the IFX crankset not the X6 that you have. I haven't lost the chain since I installed it.
Awesome man! We will have the Realtime Review up Friday. We are actually taking them to the trail that you see in the beginning of this video. Wish us luck🤞. Thanks man👍👍
I just got some branded "Blooke" the levers look exactly like those ones, but mine are 2 piston, and I made sure to order the ones with the front and rear on the correct side 😉 The dimples on the lever blades feel really nice however when I was installing them, part of the caliper housing was interfering with the rotor, so I had to file that down, and the rear hose was just a bit too short to run it the " correct way " around the front of the headtube, but I made it work 👩🔧 Complete night/day difference compared to the stock mechanical brakes that came on my Ascension! I also recently acquired a full suspension Cannondale Habit that just needs a little bit of work to be in tip-top shape!
HEY!! So nice to hear form ya:) Glad you are still rocking the ASCENSION:) We will be breaking that bad girl out next week! And I dont think we worry about "correct way" either!! LOL So no worrys:P Hope all is well and you are getting plenty of riding in Josie! Nice to have you back girl! See ya Next Week!!
My Meroca M4's finally arrived I put them on and gave it a ride Very happy so far. I had good mechanicals but this is a different level. I can fully lock up if i want but they modulate really well.
How have these held up? I jacked up and stripped out the lever on the front tektro auriga on my ebike. Fixing or replacing it with another would have cost more than this, so I purchased a single one for the front. I put on Galfer wave 2.0 203 mm rotors and will still be running the auriga 2 piston in the rear. Hopefully it works out well Also, I really wish I had that tool for cutting the hose and pressing in the barbs but hard to justify for a tool I might use once or twice
Thanks for the anniversary shout out! We both really appreciate it! Glad your finally using them rotors! You should make something up instead of stacking washers, but it should work for now. Switching the hoses was the right way to go. I wasnt on here when this premiered cause we were on allitle anniversary trip, just got home! I think that bike is going to have awesome braking ability!
We had figured that y'all were out celebrating your anniversary. Congrats again on 27 years wow! I was completely against the rear caliper mount he did but we ordered a adapter that should fit and make me feel better. We will see how it goes tomorrow when he attempts that same black diamond trail while doing a Realtime Review on the brakes, calipers, and chain guide. Wish him luck.
Hi my name Luke from Australia I just purchased a diamond back mason duel susspension 27.5 which is one of the best big box bikes in available in oz and ordered $700 of Chinese parts of ebay that you guys recommended on your channel keep you's posted on upgrades
Wow, sorry about the crash! You were damn lucky given how much worse it could have been on those rocks. Happy you're ok! Love the new style of shoutouts for coffee purchasers.
Dang, you can hear all the air come out when you went around that berm. That wouldn't have happened on the Tubeless GT Aggressor!!! I need that brake hose tool thingy, very professional. I feel like Berserker is a member of my channel as well. He's so rad!
Hahaha You are 100% right on that Cap, because he would have still been in the parking lot trying like heck to pump up the dang tire after it had randomly gone flat again😂🤣😭. Sorry but I just couldn't help myself😜. Berserker is a legend in the #wolfticknation for sure. Dude that brake hose thingy is actually pretty cool. Thanks buddy👍
I ordered a set just before your mail time. Hoping they are going to help stop better than my mechanical brakes by bolids. Can't seem to stop when I have my daughter in the bike trailer. Can't wait for the reel time review.
It’s what all the cool kids are mmmmkay….Jack says you should start a second channel called ghetto budget biking!!!!😆😆you guys have a great weekend!!!!
These budget brakes really are not bad at all! I actually bought the same tool but in the blue variant and it totally changes how easy it is for resizing brake cables!!!!
Wolftick, forgive me for asking this question all over the place, but where did you all buy the fittings for the M4 Meroca? Love that 4 piston series for sure!
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS 420's levers are no nice, but yeah, 520 have some more modulation plus they are even stronger!! (i live in a region with steep shit so i like it)
Thanks Shooby🥰. We are going out and filming a couple of videos tomorrow, one of which is the brake Realtime Review on the same trail so keep us in your thoughts😂.
Thanks man! It looks like they are in China, so who knows how long they will take in shipping, but we will probably add the link as a option. We normally don't add to many links with shipping from China, but switching the lines are sometimes a big headache.😆👍
Greatest opener ever...thee production of your videos is getting better and better with every episode.. I've put brake spacers on my 24' bmx bike it works..lol...the coffee shout out style you did was groovy... Another fantastic episode.. Stay frosty brother
Tanks man, I remember you wanted a crash vid and it just might be sooner than later LOL! Thanks for the compliment of better quality man, we are trying to get better and better so that means alot! Glad you have done the spacer thingy too, GROOVY MAN:) Love the pics by the way!
damn, brother, that was a nasty crash. glad you wore body armor and that you're fine. that's why I always wear helmet, even when commuting around the city. stay safe man! and keep up with the great work. with bikes, not crashing :D
Prepared to crash or just rag doll it? The chain guide/bash guard looks absolutely badass. I'm really hoping the brakes kick ass being 4 piston. Good luck testing them, from the crash in the opener you're going to need it. Still no fat kid shirts, it's starting to look like I'm going to have to wear a little shirt and dance around like Chris Farley.
BOTH:) The guard looks great, I just hope it works GREAT!! Man thank you for the brakes, we will ride them tomorrow!! Gosh It is gonna be interesting! Just dot he fat guy in a little shirt!! LOL Get a SMALL!! LOL Thank you BERSERKER and see ya Tuesday man.
Hey, wait a minute! I'm American and I INSIST that the rear brake is on the left & the front brake is on the right! (All of my motorcycles have right lever for front braking so I'm used to this) Another stellar video, keep up the great work! 👍
Last set of hydraulic brakes I worked on, I was Zoomnified, anticipating the nearly impossible removal of the barbed brake lines. No problems, but the Zoom line removal experience remains in my nightmares' along with the high school history test nightmare. When I saw you use an adjustable wrench on the brake line, I almost creamed my bench. Stay vertical.
I had the same thing for my brakes(spacers) on my GT for well over a year, just got the adapters few months ago. Worked fine for me. Also love the video, awesome job.
Motorbikes have the front brake on the R/H. Not sure why some countries have them shopped on bicycles. Seems a bit odd. Biggest problem with buying hydraulics in China is the common 800mm front hose length. A fork 120mm+ travel, with riser bars, needs a 1000mm+ hose.
probably the reason why chinese brakes only come with 800mm rotors is because Chinese are smaller on average than westerners so that means their bikes are smaller so that's why the hoses are shorter. just my guess or maybe its cheaper to make them that way lol.
I could be wrong, but I think these M4 brakes use Shimano 4 piston pads, like those used in Saint or Zee. I also liked the coffee shoutouts rolled into the install footage! Worked well in this video.
Ok so because of the mention In the last vid, I bought a pair of these to test for comparison to what else I've ridden. I have xt 4 pots on one bike, slx 2 pots on another, and have also ridden guide Ts, and Code Rs. Even after a bed in these brakes are pretty down on power. They aren't dangerously low like zooms, but they're really hurt by the firm lever. Like there's so little sponge that it causes finger pain trying to stop well with 1 finger. If honestly put them in line with tektro hdm275/m290 brakes with resin pads. They may get better with metallic pads. But thats another $40. Honestly if I was starting out again I'd save a bit more for some shimano mt500/deore/slx/xt/xtr 2 pistons. You can also find good deals on used brakes. I've seen SLX m675s for somewhere in the $150 range for a set on pinkbike. Still can't wait to see your thoughts on them in the next vid and I love the vids :)
Damn... I didn't want to go Budget on my brakes but I keep holding out and having high hopes for some of these budget brakes. What you wrote sounds completely accurate though. I'll get shimano's. Brakes are too important. I love buying used things and restoring them. I'm surprised to see how many people would put budget parts on their bike before buying quality used parts.
Man thank you for the insight ad we shall see how they feel! I can see what you mean about possibly going used and or new pads but man, for the $83 price tag....I cannot wait tot try! Thank brother and see ya on the VID!
I didn't get my M4's on my GT last weekend - now I think I will buy the tool from your affiliate links and install them once it comes in. Looking forward to the real time review.
Hope your wrist is OK !!! --Love the flow of the coffee shout out and cannot wait until my Meroca's get here, but I don't have a bike to put them on yet, maybe the Al Comp Mullet? Goung to drop from 12 bikes to 4, so see if you want a Diamondback (17.5") M sized Trace Sport with 9Speed Deore ??
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Looking for $600 because I cut the Air fork at an angle and it is slammed, so no riser play--still one of the lightest aluminum frames I've ridden. has Continental Xkings on it Cycling deal wheelset 29er, but easily converted to 27.5/650b or mullet. Shimano Tourney TX mechanical disc brakes, Shimano Deore (Dee Or AYe) Deraillier and shifter with Shimano hyperglide 9s 11-36, but feels like 40 tooth. iXF red cranks and the black flats with red in the middle like you had the first time. Cane Creek headset and Bucklos 120mm up front. Easy to wheelie!! Comes with the Diamondback 400 mm seatpost too! Wolfman can rais the seat and ride it himself if he wants--maybe too small for 6'4", but put some Ape Hangers on it and put at min insertion ride on, brother-man! You'd have to plan a trip to PNW to pickitup....
The new script format is great. No disrespect but I found myself skipping coffee shoutout in older segments. Now I'm just totally pleased with you guys showing appreciation to all. Whilst getting down and dirty on the bike. Best episode in a while 🙂. Tick you where damn lucky on that Get Off.
@Stephen Murray haha no disrespect taken man. We put time stamps for a reason😉. I'm glad you liked the new style of shoutouts. If the coffee purchasers seem to like it, then we will probably keep it that way for a while. Just out of curiosity, do you find yourself skipping the Mailtime segments as well? Thanks for the nice comments man👍👍
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I'm not who you asked, but mail time is my favorite segment of all. Love seeing what people send yall and it lets me know of products that I might never have seen before.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Hell No. Mail time my favourite segment. I'm an Aussie through and through. So I'm keen to see what beer gets sent your way. ( I'm assuming in replying to you Dad). I know it must hard to diversify. Yet I feel as we all have grown with your channel. I feel any changes will be met with positive feedback.
@SlimPickins ok cool man. We were wondering if people were bored of Mailtime. We enjoy most of everything we do for the channel, but Mailtime is our favorite as well. Thanks for the response, and don't ever hesitate to jump in on whatever is being talked about on here. After all we are all part of the #wolfticknation 😜.
I just saw those m4 4 piston brakes. I wondered if you might review them sometime. The time is arriving! Also, with low end Shimano brakes now doubled in price in just a year, these other brands are looking more interesting than ever.
I think the chain guard interference is from using that style of crankset/chainring because the offset is different. Also those snail rotors are a little sketch I've seen a few reviews of the rivets failing and the rotors getting mangled
some guides have shims to adjust clearance, for different chainring offsets. like on the guide designed by 77designz, Absolute Black uses it on their guide.
God that was a hard fall haha! I’ve had a few of those unexpected falls before haha, there not fun at all. Those brakes look pretty good haha o like the look of them!
6:08 the guide should be aligned with the center of the bb. so for this, the bike should be level on the ground. but otherwise, it seems to be correctly installed, but note that this guide is not designed for oval chainrings.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS ok, if your chainring is 32t then yea that's good. But I meant the angle is wrong, out bike on the ground then align the guide so the it's in the middle, aligned with the bb. Usually bolt is in the middle.
Yeah we might do a brake bleed video on them at some point, but we didn't have time or the need to do one just yet. Maybe we will revisit a brake bleed video in a couple of weeks, after some good use. Thanks man👍
Hi my name Luke from Australia I just purchased a diamond back mason duel susspension which is the best big box bike you can get in Australia for $350 and ive spent $700 on parts from ebay this week I'll keep you guys updates on my project redback
Awesome I was wondering if these brakes would be a good upgrade! Sucks you had a spill Tick but it just adds character. Just like drinking a hefe weisse beer with the Wolf...
Nice upgrades ... wow that crash sucked good thing you did not get banged up to bad. Is your cranks sprocket bent it looked warped when you turned the crank?
Hahaha yeah it could have been bad. Naw man, the cranks and chain ring are all good. One problem though is the chain ring is oval and the chain guide I believe is designed for a round chain ring. We will see how it all performs next week😆. Thanks man👍
Gotcha, we did tat on the front left brake hose, and as for the rear it was a little long plus wanted to use the tool since we had proper olives and barbs, Thanks!! I just let someone know how well they are doing:) appreciate the comment man
0:46 this is why I always make sure the handlebar can turn at least one 180 deg. but to me, it could be cus the hose was not secured properly. this has never happened to me. but at least the cable did not get cut.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS how did you manage that? Never happen to me. It cables are any longer on my bike it will be too long. But I am maxed out at 1700mm rear brake cable, so would need new cable to do longer. But it actually fits. But if it was a bigger bike it would not. So rear brake cable is uncut. My bike can turn past 180 deg, half and a quarter turn. So I am safe. But my setup is mechanical now.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS if you don't already, make sure cockpit controls are not overtightened then they can get damaged easier, make sur eyou can hit them with your hand so they move but won't move under use.
I've got the same brake on the front of my emtb with 180 rotor. The only complaint I have is that the hoses are very soft & make the power low when they are pulled hard.
it does not have to be the BB, that will change the crank position. but there should be a spacer between the bb and the bb shell, which the adapter replaces. but for clearance, you can use spacers under the mountain plate. but this might not be enough. if the chain rubs at the outer parts of the guide, you can use spacers between the plate and the adapter. some guides come with spacers.
Great video boys! I was hoping to see more riding /crashing 😁 but it was only a teez lol. Glad to see that your all good Tic man. As far as the spacers on the back brake, as long as you are using a long enough bolt there really is no difference. 🤘🏻👍
Holy crap I'm glad you was able to walk it off that looked wicked. Great vid other then the wipeout. Looks like we wear the same pads how did they do on impact? Can't wait to see how the chain stay, breaks and rotors workout. Y'all have a great weekend #wolfticknation
Man me too! Thanks:) The pads worked well but the left elbow slipped and now my elbow is rashed a little but no bruising on it! So I guess gong 15mph's and STOP! They are not bad at all lol. Have a great one as well homie and see ya nest week! We will be trying them out tomorrow!!!!!
add some more white accents to your axum dp to accompany the saddle to make it "patriotic". the saddle IMO sticks out like a sore thumb from the red and blue parts so adding white parts will solve that.
When swapping them did you have to cut the cable and change the olive and barb????I just bought these by mistake instead of zoom… figure hey I guess we will both try them out
😆I take it you didn't watch the whole video. Check out the time stamps in the description and I believe you will find what you are looking for. Remember to catch Friday's video for the Realtime Review. See you then👍
I don’t know I rewatched it again lol I know you did cut them, but was it a must? I’m assuming you can unscrew them and swap left with right but just have long cables? Love the videos I wouldn’t have a GT aggressor pro if not for y’all. Keep up the good work. Thanks
@Random Content Ohhh I got you now. You weren't asking if we cut them but rather did we HAVE TO cut them, got it. The answer is no, we did not have to, but Jeremiah wanted to use his new tool. Actually you might not even have to swap the cables if you can run them upside down like we did on the Redlands that were on the Axum. Thanks for your patience man, we work so many hours that sometimes we trip out a little🤪🤣.
No one's ready for the front wheel to spontaneously lock up. I found myself on the wet with a summer tyre on the front with no rear brake once and a car in front of me, needless to say the next stop was clearly the floor without any chances of ending anywhere else that wasn't the car.
i love your reviews ! Awesome ! What type of barb and olive did you use to swap the m4 levers ? Is there a Meroca brand name bard and olive or did you use a different type like Tektro or Shimano? use
Do the bleed ports on the M4 brake levers have the same tread and dimensions as shimano one? Can you use the same bleed/fill cup with the little internal stopper????
Do not believe o, they are like the Zooms and will need a syringe and a certain thread pattern nipple. Check out this affiliate link, it should come with one. We used this on our Zooms and there are plenty of different options,amzn.to/3C0xPqY Good luck
Hey. Where do you get this brakes online? Found them on ebay and they ship from china so I hesitate to get them, then found some Jfoyh m4 that look very similar but don’t say meroca. Thanks!
Man checkout the affiliate links in the description. We bought ours from China, if you do order thru the affiliate link we get a little percentage as well. But we have a budget brake video coming out tomorrow!!
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS plus no clutch derailleur is probably not helping the situation at all😂 keep up the good work you guys I’ve been watching since before 200 subs and you guys are killing it
Why did you put the brakes on the axum? Is the axum the "main" bike now or is the gt still the daily driver. out of the axum gt ledge and ardor which do you ride more?
Dude, that crash looked like it hurt, I hope you're all healed up now. That chain guide may sound like a chainsaw but it's got to be quieter than the p.o.s I sent to you 😂😂😂 The brake levers look kinda similar to the shimano slx ones I've got, maybe they're a copy of some sort. I'm not mentioning which way round the levers go, I've made my point 😂😂😂 One thing, 203s on 4pot calipers!? Are you mental? The idea of brakes is to reduce the chance of crashing, not make it higher😂😂😂😂 seriously, they look like they could be good. Great video as always chaps, have a great weekend. Take care 😎🍺👍
Well an you just about summed up the Entire Dan Boyes comment I figured we would read tonight:)We laughed and of course dad sitting across from me AGREED WITH EVERYTHING! Except the backwards SH**! HA HA Thanks for hanging int here Dan, later bud and how did Jacob take the Knuggy?? LOL
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I feel ya man. It's been almost two weeks and my wrist is still f'd. My job is doing maintaince at an apartment complex so I have to use both hands (lol) n I think that's making the healing process slow... Either that or it's more than a sprain... Hopefully you heal up quickly!
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOSSome updates on this, found out the only thing different about them is the use of BH59 and BH90, just need a cable swap and end should do the trick
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Hey man, recently found a listing for a pair of ZTTO 4 piston brakes, was choosing between the Meroca and those The ZTTOs have 14mm pistons all round and apparently use Shimano 2 piston brake pads which is odd
I like the video style change! Always good to switch it up.
Good to hear. We wanted to change it up a little and it seems to be liked by most so far. Thanks Evan!
I have that same chain guide/bash guard. I didn't have the rubbing issue, but I have the IFX crankset not the X6 that you have. I haven't lost the chain since I installed it.
WOW! That is great man, I hope we have the same conclusion:) I am looking forward to riding down the MOUNTAIN!!
Finally someone reviewed these brakes. Been looking at this for a while for some budget 4 pistons.
Awesome man! We will have the Realtime Review up Friday. We are actually taking them to the trail that you see in the beginning of this video. Wish us luck🤞. Thanks man👍👍
I just got some branded "Blooke" the levers look exactly like those ones, but mine are 2 piston, and I made sure to order the ones with the front and rear on the correct side 😉 The dimples on the lever blades feel really nice however when I was installing them, part of the caliper housing was interfering with the rotor, so I had to file that down, and the rear hose was just a bit too short to run it the " correct way " around the front of the headtube, but I made it work 👩🔧 Complete night/day difference compared to the stock mechanical brakes that came on my Ascension! I also recently acquired a full suspension Cannondale Habit that just needs a little bit of work to be in tip-top shape!
HEY!! So nice to hear form ya:) Glad you are still rocking the ASCENSION:) We will be breaking that bad girl out next week! And I dont think we worry about "correct way" either!! LOL So no worrys:P
Hope all is well and you are getting plenty of riding in Josie! Nice to have you back girl! See ya Next Week!!
My Meroca M4's finally arrived
I put them on and gave it a ride
Very happy so far. I had good mechanicals but this is a different level. I can fully lock up if i want but they modulate really well.
NICE:) So glad to hear it Blair! Thanks for the update and our review will be out FRIDAY!! See ye then......Maybe we had the same outlook!!
Yes I've used three spacers on each end on my rear caliper as long as the mounting screw is long enough to go in without running out of threads
Absolutely was man, thank you.
How have these held up? I jacked up and stripped out the lever on the front tektro auriga on my ebike. Fixing or replacing it with another would have cost more than this, so I purchased a single one for the front.
I put on Galfer wave 2.0 203 mm rotors and will still be running the auriga 2 piston in the rear. Hopefully it works out well
Also, I really wish I had that tool for cutting the hose and pressing in the barbs but hard to justify for a tool I might use once or twice
Man the front seems to be descent, but we have since reviewed with new pads and bleeds, and well....Not So Good 😥😥😥
My 2 piston Clarks work great but now I am eyeing these! Thanks for the review.
Well man the REVIEW is coming out FRIDAY! YOU WILL NOT WANT TO MISS IT! Thanks R.L!
Thanks for the anniversary shout out! We both really appreciate it! Glad your finally using them rotors! You should make something up instead of stacking washers, but it should work for now. Switching the hoses was the right way to go. I wasnt on here when this premiered cause we were on allitle anniversary trip, just got home! I think that bike is going to have awesome braking ability!
We had figured that y'all were out celebrating your anniversary. Congrats again on 27 years wow! I was completely against the rear caliper mount he did but we ordered a adapter that should fit and make me feel better. We will see how it goes tomorrow when he attempts that same black diamond trail while doing a Realtime Review on the brakes, calipers, and chain guide. Wish him luck.
Hi my name Luke from Australia I just purchased a diamond back mason duel susspension 27.5 which is one of the best big box bikes in available in oz and ordered $700 of Chinese parts of ebay that you guys recommended on your channel keep you's posted on upgrades
@Luke Bright-man that is awesome!! Thank you for doing so and man please keep us POSTED, would love to hear:)
I picked up one of these corki floating rotors today. It’s the final piece to get my SS bike back on the trail.
HELL YEAH!!!!
Can't keep a good man down. Glad you walked away from that crash!
Good man is a little far fetched!! LOL Thanks man!
Wow, sorry about the crash! You were damn lucky given how much worse it could have been on those rocks. Happy you're ok! Love the new style of shoutouts for coffee purchasers.
Well thank you all around brother, we had a good time and the hand is a but bruised! Hope tomorrows filming goes better:)
Dang, you can hear all the air come out when you went around that berm. That wouldn't have happened on the Tubeless GT Aggressor!!! I need that brake hose tool thingy, very professional. I feel like Berserker is a member of my channel as well. He's so rad!
Hahaha You are 100% right on that Cap, because he would have still been in the parking lot trying like heck to pump up the dang tire after it had randomly gone flat again😂🤣😭. Sorry but I just couldn't help myself😜. Berserker is a legend in the #wolfticknation for sure. Dude that brake hose thingy is actually pretty cool. Thanks buddy👍
I ran the Sram style post mount in the rear when I had the 4 pot on my Axum.
Thank you! May look into that:)
I ordered a set just before your mail time. Hoping they are going to help stop better than my mechanical brakes by bolids. Can't seem to stop when I have my daughter in the bike trailer. Can't wait for the reel time review.
Man that is great! Hopefully they can STOP ya good:) The review will be out FRIDAY!! See you then brother:)
It’s what all the cool kids are mmmmkay….Jack says you should start a second channel called ghetto budget biking!!!!😆😆you guys have a great weekend!!!!
HA HA It will be called WHAT NOT TO DO!! EVER!!!!
These budget brakes really are not bad at all! I actually bought the same tool but in the blue variant and it totally changes how easy it is for resizing brake cables!!!!
Man that is awesome!! You and BERSERKER have great taste!! LOL the tool is a must and especially for like $20!! PACOCK!!!
Wolftick, forgive me for asking this question all over the place, but where did you all buy the fittings for the M4 Meroca? Love that 4 piston series for sure!
I did 203mm front and rear on my axum dp. Those 4 piston brakes may be next on my list
SEE YA FRIDAY!! MAYBE THE REVIEW WILL PUSH YOU OVER THE LEDGE!!
I bought my mt 501/520s for 70€ a year ago...i would say best budget 4 piston setup ive ridden so far
WOW! That was a close choice for us a while back, the 420's are SCARY STRONG!! LOL
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS 420's levers are no nice, but yeah, 520 have some more modulation plus they are even stronger!!
(i live in a region with steep shit so i like it)
LOL I hope you do!! The 420's are all I can HANDLE!!
Glad your OK Tick!! Can’t wait for your review on these brakes🤘
Thanks Shooby🥰. We are going out and filming a couple of videos tomorrow, one of which is the brake Realtime Review on the same trail so keep us in your thoughts😂.
If you order the M4’s on Amazon, they have the option to order them standard set up left/front right/rear.
Thanks man! It looks like they are in China, so who knows how long they will take in shipping, but we will probably add the link as a option. We normally don't add to many links with shipping from China, but switching the lines are sometimes a big headache.😆👍
Yay! A video before the weekend. Ouch!!! Thats crash looked bad
The crash sucked for sure. We always look forward to our Friday videos as well😂. Thanks man👍👍
Greatest opener ever...thee production of your videos is getting better and better with every episode.. I've put brake spacers on my 24' bmx bike it works..lol...the coffee shout out style you did was groovy... Another fantastic episode..
Stay frosty brother
Tanks man, I remember you wanted a crash vid and it just might be sooner than later LOL! Thanks for the compliment of better quality man, we are trying to get better and better so that means alot! Glad you have done the spacer thingy too, GROOVY MAN:) Love the pics by the way!
damn, brother, that was a nasty crash. glad you wore body armor and that you're fine. that's why I always wear helmet, even when commuting around the city. stay safe man! and keep up with the great work. with bikes, not crashing :D
I will try not to CRASH!! LOL Thanks Mario- see ya TUESDAY man
Prepared to crash or just rag doll it? The chain guide/bash guard looks absolutely badass. I'm really hoping the brakes kick ass being 4 piston. Good luck testing them, from the crash in the opener you're going to need it. Still no fat kid shirts, it's starting to look like I'm going to have to wear a little shirt and dance around like Chris Farley.
BOTH:) The guard looks great, I just hope it works GREAT!! Man thank you for the brakes, we will ride them tomorrow!! Gosh It is gonna be interesting! Just dot he fat guy in a little shirt!! LOL Get a SMALL!! LOL Thank you BERSERKER and see ya Tuesday man.
Hey, wait a minute! I'm American and I INSIST that the rear brake is on the left & the front brake is on the right! (All of my motorcycles have right lever for front braking so I'm used to this)
Another stellar video, keep up the great work! 👍
😂 LOL TOTALLY an AMERICAN CYCLING THING!! HA HA No thank you on the OPPOSITES BROTHER:)
Last set of hydraulic brakes I worked on, I was Zoomnified, anticipating the nearly impossible removal of the barbed brake lines. No problems, but the Zoom line removal experience remains in my nightmares' along with the high school history test nightmare.
When I saw you use an adjustable wrench on the brake line, I almost creamed my bench. Stay vertical.
😂 LOL Man you are too much!! Thanks Bob much love and see ya next week!!
I had the same thing for my brakes(spacers) on my GT for well over a year, just got the adapters few months ago. Worked fine for me. Also love the video, awesome job.
Hell yeah, so what you are saying is theres a chance!! LOL
Thanks for showing how to install and use of the tools in your video.
Thank you Neil👍
Motorbikes have the front brake on the R/H. Not sure why some countries have them shopped on bicycles. Seems a bit odd.
Biggest problem with buying hydraulics in China is the common 800mm front hose length. A fork 120mm+ travel, with riser bars, needs a 1000mm+ hose.
probably the reason why chinese brakes only come with 800mm rotors is because Chinese are smaller on average than westerners so that means their bikes are smaller so that's why the hoses are shorter. just my guess or maybe its cheaper to make them that way lol.
Yeah I have noticed a few pairs barely cutting it when it comes to a 29er
I could be wrong, but I think these M4 brakes use Shimano 4 piston pads, like those used in Saint or Zee. I also liked the coffee shoutouts rolled into the install footage! Worked well in this video.
Well thank you Patches, we will have to see about the pads man.
Ok so because of the mention In the last vid, I bought a pair of these to test for comparison to what else I've ridden. I have xt 4 pots on one bike, slx 2 pots on another, and have also ridden guide Ts, and Code Rs. Even after a bed in these brakes are pretty down on power. They aren't dangerously low like zooms, but they're really hurt by the firm lever. Like there's so little sponge that it causes finger pain trying to stop well with 1 finger. If honestly put them in line with tektro hdm275/m290 brakes with resin pads. They may get better with metallic pads. But thats another $40. Honestly if I was starting out again I'd save a bit more for some shimano mt500/deore/slx/xt/xtr 2 pistons. You can also find good deals on used brakes. I've seen SLX m675s for somewhere in the $150 range for a set on pinkbike. Still can't wait to see your thoughts on them in the next vid and I love the vids :)
There's just nothing like those 4 piston shimano brakes.
Damn...
I didn't want to go Budget on my brakes but I keep holding out and having high hopes for some of these budget brakes. What you wrote sounds completely accurate though. I'll get shimano's. Brakes are too important.
I love buying used things and restoring them. I'm surprised to see how many people would put budget parts on their bike before buying quality used parts.
Man thank you for the insight ad we shall see how they feel! I can see what you mean about possibly going used and or new pads but man, for the $83 price tag....I cannot wait tot try! Thank brother and see ya on the VID!
@@dylan-5287 Well, try magura, then you get to know power! But yeah shimano everything for me...
I didn't get my M4's on my GT last weekend - now I think I will buy the tool from your affiliate links and install them once it comes in. Looking forward to the real time review.
Awesome to hear man, please be sure and order the barbs and olives!!
Here is an affiliate link as well;) Thank you for using them!amzn.to/2XfZjKv
Thanks for the review .. going to order for my cannondale mtb
Hell yeah!! Good luck and we do have affiliate links in the description:)
I like the new style of coffee shout outs🤘🤘🤘
Good to hear man! We might keep it like that for a while.👍🤘💩🤷woops🤦haha😂🤘🤘👍
VERY informative video. Glad that you are ok. I had a "good" crash the other day.
HA HA Love it, "good" crash! Thanks AL
You can find different shape adapters on Amazon to fit the frame your building, I’ve had similar issues with brakes before
Hope so, I think the bike may not be designed for a 180mm rear, but I really hope so
Great you got a bash guide now, you seriously need to get a bash guide. the way you ride there is no way the chain won't come off at some point.
LOL We will fid out Tomorrow ohannes, thank you!
Hope your wrist is OK !!! --Love the flow of the coffee shout out and cannot wait until my Meroca's get here, but I don't have a bike to put them on yet, maybe the Al Comp Mullet? Goung to drop from 12 bikes to 4, so see if you want a Diamondback (17.5") M sized Trace Sport with 9Speed Deore ??
Man it is peachy! It is the hand that is JACKED!! LOL GO MULLET for the Captain:) Now a trace sport?? Hmmmm.....how much??
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Looking for $600 because I cut the Air fork at an angle and it is slammed, so no riser play--still one of the lightest aluminum frames I've ridden. has Continental Xkings on it Cycling deal wheelset 29er, but easily converted to 27.5/650b or mullet. Shimano Tourney TX mechanical disc brakes, Shimano Deore (Dee Or AYe) Deraillier and shifter with Shimano hyperglide 9s 11-36, but feels like 40 tooth. iXF red cranks and the black flats with red in the middle like you had the first time. Cane Creek headset and Bucklos 120mm up front. Easy to wheelie!! Comes with the Diamondback 400 mm seatpost too! Wolfman can rais the seat and ride it himself if he wants--maybe too small for 6'4", but put some Ape Hangers on it and put at min insertion ride on, brother-man! You'd have to plan a trip to PNW to pickitup....
We will start plannin:) Man hopefully someone jumps on that! We are a little thick with projects right now but hope someone will see this.
Damn son, that looked like your hardest crash yet and the watch went flying. Awesome T shirt pics.
Ha Ha thanks man, it was very painful but very glad I was recording:) T shirt pics are gonna be great, should be FRIDAYS segment:) See ya then SLOTH!
i love my four piston brakes, they are so powerful!
We love ours as well. Hopefully these will be good enough to love also🤞🤞.
The new script format is great. No disrespect but I found myself skipping coffee shoutout in older segments. Now I'm just totally pleased with you guys showing appreciation to all. Whilst getting down and dirty on the bike. Best episode in a while 🙂.
Tick you where damn lucky on that Get Off.
Agreed, liked that style
@Stephen Murray haha no disrespect taken man. We put time stamps for a reason😉. I'm glad you liked the new style of shoutouts. If the coffee purchasers seem to like it, then we will probably keep it that way for a while. Just out of curiosity, do you find yourself skipping the Mailtime segments as well? Thanks for the nice comments man👍👍
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I'm not who you asked, but mail time is my favorite segment of all. Love seeing what people send yall and it lets me know of products that I might never have seen before.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Hell No. Mail time my favourite segment. I'm an Aussie through and through. So I'm keen to see what beer gets sent your way. ( I'm assuming in replying to you Dad). I know it must hard to diversify. Yet I feel as we all have grown with your channel. I feel any changes will be met with positive feedback.
@SlimPickins ok cool man. We were wondering if people were bored of Mailtime. We enjoy most of everything we do for the channel, but Mailtime is our favorite as well. Thanks for the response, and don't ever hesitate to jump in on whatever is being talked about on here. After all we are all part of the #wolfticknation 😜.
I got the same tool for brake lines and it’s fantastic!
Man it is so NICE:)
I just saw those m4 4 piston brakes. I wondered if you might review them sometime. The time is arriving! Also, with low end Shimano brakes now doubled in price in just a year, these other brands are looking more interesting than ever.
DEF AGREE MAN! Thansk and we will find out TOMORROW!! FILMING THAT IS, see you NEXT WEEK!
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Awsome! Will be back to check it out.
I have the same chain guide ZTTO the BB Mount should be flip to avoid rubbing of chain on the actual chain guide.
🙏 Thanks brother
no thank you to you! Love your videos! Watching it all from Philippines@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
That brake line tool is so nice bro!
HA HA Thanks brother:) It was $20 and totally worth it, damn NICE!! HA HA
I think the chain guard interference is from using that style of crankset/chainring because the offset is different. Also those snail rotors are a little sketch I've seen a few reviews of the rivets failing and the rotors getting mangled
some guides have shims to adjust clearance, for different chainring offsets. like on the guide designed by 77designz, Absolute Black uses it on their guide.
Man I hope the rivets hold up, we will see. They have always interested me:)
Do you have any links to that? That is really ba dif this happens, it can be deadly if rivets fail during riding.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS yeah man the real shimone icetech rotors are super cool, be pretty neat if these actually provide any real benefit
Fro sure man, they look awesome!
I'm glad you were wearing a helmet ❤️
ME TOO!! and pads:)
Great video again hope you did nothurt yourself to much hope that was not your tubeless ones nice looking rotors and brakes keep up the good 👍
HA HA Thanks man, very bruised but all in all so happy the camera was rolling:) Hope they stop me ok! LAter CLove:)
Just got back from school watching this video
Great!🥰 It is very educational😂👍
I wish apon you a Canadian made Blackspire Snaggletooth sprocket! Lol. I've never had a chain drop ! Even with a 30tooth!
WOW!
God that was a hard fall haha! I’ve had a few of those unexpected falls before haha, there not fun at all. Those brakes look pretty good haha o like the look of them!
MAn went for flying to STOP!!! LOL Hopefully they stop me on the SAME trail tomorrow!! See ya Next week Matteo:)
6:08 the guide should be aligned with the center of the bb. so for this, the bike should be level on the ground. but otherwise, it seems to be correctly installed,
but note that this guide is not designed for oval chainrings.
Gotcha, I have it set in the 32T mark:)
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS ok, if your chainring is 32t then yea that's good. But I meant the angle is wrong, out bike on the ground then align the guide so the it's in the middle, aligned with the bb. Usually bolt is in the middle.
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You didn't bleed the brakes? You can do a simple top bleed to let the air out on those levers with some fluid and a bleed cup.
Yeah we might do a brake bleed video on them at some point, but we didn't have time or the need to do one just yet. Maybe we will revisit a brake bleed video in a couple of weeks, after some good use. Thanks man👍
i love these super cheap product testing videos
Hi my name Luke from Australia I just purchased a diamond back mason duel susspension which is the best big box bike you can get in Australia for $350 and ive spent $700 on parts from ebay this week I'll keep you guys updates on my project redback
Gotcha man, that is awesome and seen your comment in the last vid, please keep us updated and thanks again for using our links!
Awesome I was wondering if these brakes would be a good upgrade! Sucks you had a spill Tick but it just adds character. Just like drinking a hefe weisse beer with the Wolf...
LOL TOTALLY YING AND YANG!!
"INTERMITTENTLY" 😂🤣😂🤣. Yes in fact I do. ✌🤟👍
HA HA So does WOLFMAN!! HA HA
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS 😂🤣😂
I run 180 mm front and rear on my Ironhorse Warrior 3.1 26" .
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Nice upgrades ... wow that crash sucked good thing you did not get banged up to bad. Is your cranks sprocket bent it looked warped when you turned the crank?
Hahaha yeah it could have been bad. Naw man, the cranks and chain ring are all good. One problem though is the chain ring is oval and the chain guide I believe is designed for a round chain ring. We will see how it all performs next week😆. Thanks man👍
Could've just swap the hoses from left lever to right lever.. That's what I did with my hydro system, and its been going strong 4 months now :D
Gotcha, we did tat on the front left brake hose, and as for the rear it was a little long plus wanted to use the tool since we had proper olives and barbs, Thanks!! I just let someone know how well they are doing:) appreciate the comment man
0:46 this is why I always make sure the handlebar can turn at least one 180 deg. but to me, it could be cus the hose was not secured properly. this has never happened to me. but at least the cable did not get cut.
Dude I feel ya but the bars were 360!!!
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS how did you manage that? Never happen to me. It cables are any longer on my bike it will be too long. But I am maxed out at 1700mm rear brake cable, so would need new cable to do longer. But it actually fits. But if it was a bigger bike it would not. So rear brake cable is uncut. My bike can turn past 180 deg, half and a quarter turn. So I am safe. But my setup is mechanical now.
I DONT KNOW!! LOL The bike was completely turned up!! I am so glad nothing else was messed up, especially the dropper lever.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS if you don't already, make sure cockpit controls are not overtightened then they can get damaged easier, make sur eyou can hit them with your hand so they move but won't move under use.
Thats not a bad idea:)
I've got the same brake on the front of my emtb with 180 rotor.
The only complaint I have is that the hoses are very soft & make the power low when they are pulled hard.
Hmmm....Have not had that feeling yet:) Interesting
You know it's a good case when your watch shoots off haha.you took it like a champ
HA HA Had no clue what time it was!! LOL Great comment made me cry!!
Thanks 🙏 God you was wearing your PPE
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THANK YOU SAM
6:00 - Is there room to shove a thin BB spacer in between the BB bearing shell and the ISCG mount? Might stop the rubbing.
it does not have to be the BB, that will change the crank position. but there should be a spacer between the bb and the bb shell, which the adapter replaces. but for clearance, you can use spacers under the mountain plate. but this might not be enough. if the chain rubs at the outer parts of the guide, you can use spacers between the plate and the adapter. some guides come with spacers.
No room brother, good idea but I tried and the shaft is too short:( What is done is done....LOL
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS what do you mean by shaft?
The rod that goes into the shell.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS oh you mean the crank spindle. No spacer there then.
Great video boys! I was hoping to see more riding /crashing 😁 but it was only a teez lol. Glad to see that your all good Tic man.
As far as the spacers on the back brake, as long as you are using a long enough bolt there really is no difference. 🤘🏻👍
Cool to hear brother, the threads are looooong!! So hopefully they do well tomorrow!
See, that's why I don't jump stuff anymore. Slow and steady on a gravel bike. That made me hurt just watching it lol
Well it hurt in real life too! LOL
you win some you lose some... nice crash ! i love 4 pot brake front and back with some 200 rotors ! i wish i could fit 230 :D
230!!! What the HELL! THATS A THING??????
Holy crap I'm glad you was able to walk it off that looked wicked. Great vid other then the wipeout. Looks like we wear the same pads how did they do on impact? Can't wait to see how the chain stay, breaks and rotors workout. Y'all have a great weekend #wolfticknation
Man me too! Thanks:) The pads worked well but the left elbow slipped and now my elbow is rashed a little but no bruising on it! So I guess gong 15mph's and STOP! They are not bad at all lol. Have a great one as well homie and see ya nest week! We will be trying them out tomorrow!!!!!
Hoping next spring I can get back on a bicycle
Man us too:)
add some more white accents to your axum dp to accompany the saddle to make it "patriotic". the saddle IMO sticks out like a sore thumb from the red and blue parts so adding white parts will solve that.
Yep...Needs some more white:)
When swapping them did you have to cut the cable and change the olive and barb????I just bought these by mistake instead of zoom… figure hey I guess we will both try them out
😆I take it you didn't watch the whole video. Check out the time stamps in the description and I believe you will find what you are looking for. Remember to catch Friday's video for the Realtime Review. See you then👍
I don’t know I rewatched it again lol I know you did cut them, but was it a must? I’m assuming you can unscrew them and swap left with right but just have long cables? Love the videos I wouldn’t have a GT aggressor pro if not for y’all. Keep up the good work. Thanks
@Random Content Ohhh I got you now. You weren't asking if we cut them but rather did we HAVE TO cut them, got it. The answer is no, we did not have to, but Jeremiah wanted to use his new tool. Actually you might not even have to swap the cables if you can run them upside down like we did on the Redlands that were on the Axum. Thanks for your patience man, we work so many hours that sometimes we trip out a little🤪🤣.
I am super curious how well those brakes work. If they turn out to be pretty good I may consider them myself for my budget build.
JOHN! We shall see FRIDAY:) They are ___________-________________!!!!!
looks like you need a narrow wide chainring
Hahaha ya think😆
Hey Jeremiah what's up wolfman I have issues I'm going in to have my left shoulder repaired immediately the fluid sack is leaking fluid in my shoulder
Man sorry to hear that:(
I don't think that chain guide was designed for an oval. Glad you came out of that crash okay.
Us as well man, it is set to a 32T but we will see?? I really hope I can make it down the MOUNTAIN!!
mann always be carefull and use helmet.accident you dont know when its coming.
thank you for the another info about meroca hydro break.
Def agree man, thank you for watching and being here:) See ya next week regarding the BRAKES!! AND MORE:)
15:35 did you wanted to shorten the hose? I thought you could just swap hoses from one lever to the other. Now, I've never done it.
Shortened because there was just a little too much hose and I wanted to see if the kit I had would work:)
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS got it. I just been curious if they could be swapped, I think yes
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You should tell Wolfman you should have done tubeless on the AXUM. LOL I'd love to see his reaction.
I WOULD NOT HAVE!!! But there was a thought!! LOL
Good stuff
Thanks man👍👍
Where did you get that badass white saddle from??
No one's ready for the front wheel to spontaneously lock up. I found myself on the wet with a summer tyre on the front with no rear brake once and a car in front of me, needless to say the next stop was clearly the floor without any chances of ending anywhere else that wasn't the car.
🤣🤣 Man it sucks to be surprised like that!!
i love your reviews ! Awesome !
What type of barb and olive did you use to swap the m4 levers ? Is there a Meroca brand name bard and olive or did you use a different type like Tektro or Shimano?
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Hey brother, thank you so much! Sorry to get to you so late 😔 now we use bh59 olives and barbs here is an affiliate link
amzn.to/3PIex1H
Good luck!!
7:40 I thought by now you would have upgraded the cassette and derailleur
I thought so too, but with all of these projects going....well you get it.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS yeah.!
Damn dude you hit that rock spot brotha hope you’re doin alright and hey you got that hard fall out the way now haha
HA HA HA!! Def did:) So happy I was geared up, just the hand was not!! Totally need a hand helmet:)
Do the bleed ports on the M4 brake levers have the same tread and dimensions as shimano one? Can you use the same bleed/fill cup with the little internal stopper????
Do not believe o, they are like the Zooms and will need a syringe and a certain thread pattern nipple. Check out this affiliate link, it should come with one. We used this on our Zooms and there are plenty of different options,amzn.to/3C0xPqY Good luck
Hey. Where do you get this brakes online? Found them on ebay and they ship from china so I hesitate to get them, then found some Jfoyh m4 that look very similar but don’t say meroca. Thanks!
Man checkout the affiliate links in the description. We bought ours from China, if you do order thru the affiliate link we get a little percentage as well. But we have a budget brake video coming out tomorrow!!
i betcha the chainring is a bit warped and the fact its not narrow-wide its probably just jumping right off of there
Def 8spd chain is the problem, the chainring is is straight as well. It was the brand new 30T
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS plus no clutch derailleur is probably not helping the situation at all😂 keep up the good work you guys I’ve been watching since before 200 subs and you guys are killing it
LOL NEED A CLUTCH!!! Man we will see ya Tuesday and Friday! You will be AMAZED!!!
Why did you put the brakes on the axum? Is the axum the "main" bike now or is the gt still the daily driver. out of the axum gt ledge and ardor which do you ride more?
Man the opener was a clear cut explanation lol, now the Axum at the moment, then the GT-well GT....:) AXUM
Oh for real you guys have the front brake on the left?
Yes! Lol you must be from the UK?
Dude, that crash looked like it hurt, I hope you're all healed up now.
That chain guide may sound like a chainsaw but it's got to be quieter than the p.o.s I sent to you 😂😂😂
The brake levers look kinda similar to the shimano slx ones I've got, maybe they're a copy of some sort. I'm not mentioning which way round the levers go, I've made my point 😂😂😂 One thing, 203s on 4pot calipers!? Are you mental? The idea of brakes is to reduce the chance of crashing, not make it higher😂😂😂😂 seriously, they look like they could be good.
Great video as always chaps, have a great weekend. Take care 😎🍺👍
Well an you just about summed up the Entire Dan Boyes comment I figured we would read tonight:)We laughed and of course dad sitting across from me AGREED WITH EVERYTHING! Except the backwards SH**! HA HA Thanks for hanging int here Dan, later bud and how did Jacob take the Knuggy?? LOL
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I must be getting predictable in my old age 😂😂😂
Jacob didn't really enjoy his Knuggys, but I did😂
Take it easy 😎🍺👍
Will do Dan, see ya brother CHEERS!!
Im with dad i will never drive a red car lol that bike is hexed lol i really like that chain guide might have to pick one up and give it a try
also the mount for the brakes isnt that ghetto i think what you did is what i would have done.
Thanks!
LOL Man you two are too alike! LOL Never heard that before, also checkout the links!! Thanks Steve
Would you say these are better than the zoom brakes you previously reviewed?
I would brother, also love the channel icon!!
man wish i had the budget to buy the meroca m4 brakes
How old ru roblox kid or is ur profile not roblox
Due maybe they will drop in price a little this winter.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS well i might hold on buying one cause if i can get it i can have a budget quad piston brakes
For sure man, they are actually out there for $79ish??
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS thats pretty worth it cause you get quad piston brakes for that much i cant wait for the ride vid
How you feeling from the fall?
hand is very bruised......just happy we got it on film, thanks for asking homie.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I feel ya man. It's been almost two weeks and my wrist is still f'd. My job is doing maintaince at an apartment complex so I have to use both hands (lol) n I think that's making the healing process slow... Either that or it's more than a sprain...
Hopefully you heal up quickly!
Will do Jason, and since when did maintenance become a two hander?? :) Muc be getting paid them BIG BUCKS!! HA HA
I hope those do better than the others
Wish we had you around for the Install and Realtime Review. Dang it buddy you are missed.
Great video
Thanks man! Make sure you watch the Realtime Review on Friday👍
Do you reckon they work with Shimano Brake levers? E.g. M6100 Deore Brake levers
Well same size line??? I would not see why not....TRY IT!!
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOSSome updates on this, found out the only thing different about them is the use of BH59 and BH90, just need a cable swap and end should do the trick
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Have any ideas on how big the pistons are on those Meroca M4s?
Hey brother sure dont?? Sorry to answer this so late and with little info! LOL It was in the spam, but man no clue?? What are you trying to do?
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Hey man, recently found a listing for a pair of ZTTO 4 piston brakes, was choosing between the Meroca and those
The ZTTOs have 14mm pistons all round and apparently use Shimano 2 piston brake pads which is odd
I heard you can shrimp your way out of a crash If you're quick enough
LOL!! Yes I can:) I feel grappling transfers well!