I appreciate you leaving the struggles during repairs in your videos. I like to see problem solving solutions employed by others, even if I might not have the same problem the thought processes are good to have for other issues that could be encountered.
A couple of things. I have these calipers. I fitted them because after 9 bikes over the years with hydraulic discs I was so done with them. Firstly, clean the stupid thread lock off the bolts. It totally confuses how tight you have the bolts. Next, the pads that come standard are semi sintered. They have to be fully bedded in with the disc to work correctly. After this process the bite is amazing and the pads really last. Downside is they howl when wet. Silent in the dry though. A wet ride somehow seems to condition the pad material even further, then they work even better. They are wonderfully adjustable. There is a rod which the cable arm pushes in to activate the hydraulics. This rod has an Allen socket end. Screw it inward to move the pads closer to the rotor, outward to give yourself more clearance. Then you have the cable adjuster on the caliper, which is great for on the road tool free adjustment, and possibly reach adjustment at your lever too. Yes, that top bolt on the front caliper is too limited for clearance. It's manageable, but if I lose patience with it I will file the caliper body to give it more clearance. As with all mechanical brakes, cable quality is the ticket. I never felt the need to use compressionless cable with these, but I DO use Shimano cables which seem to compress less than most. For those interested, the main reason for using hybrid calipers lies in the fact that the pads don't have to be adjusted individually. Another thing I have found, the pads cost next to nothing. Buying direct from ZTTO on AliExpress they are typically around 15$ for FOUR pairs, and you have the choice of three different compounds. Hope this helps....
Im gonna order a couple of sets. They look great, and I am sure I can set them up to perform well enough for me.. A set of these will go nicely on my Giant NRS2 that I converting to a Drop bar FS Gravel Bike Im currently converting.
Interesting product and good review. I can't really see the point of them myself. As you said good mechanical calipers are available. My new £800 road bike came with dual side action fully mechanical calipers. With the oil and potential for seal failure I'd rather gain the full benefit of hydraulic and have a hose and lever as well.
Interested in these brakes, but so they hold up and perform good when yoi do long downhills on a roadbike woth speeda up to 70 kph? Did the breakingpower break in or so?
Because I've 95 kilos and some of the semi hydraulic brakes are not good, the oil inside start to get hot and they don't work before cooling downythats why i ask before buying @@BruceChastain
Have they got stronger since you uploaded this video? I have just installed these on a road bike and they are taking a long time to bed in. No bite at all still.
There are two variables that might affect performance. The calipers and the brake pads. Any chance your old pads are interchangeable with the new calipers? If you could put the old pads on the new calipers that might tell you more about brake performance. Great video and cool caliper color.
hey GG! I was only somewhat aware of the trp set, but I just looked them up, interestingly on their product page they "strongly recommend" using compressionless cable housing. Also a good thing about the trp is it has a reservoir, which these do not.
I appreciate you leaving the struggles during repairs in your videos. I like to see problem solving solutions employed by others, even if I might not have the same problem the thought processes are good to have for other issues that could be encountered.
haha yeah I always have some struggles that's for sure :)
@@BruceChastain we learn by working through them as you did.
A couple of things. I have these calipers. I fitted them because after 9 bikes over the years with hydraulic discs I was so done with them. Firstly, clean the stupid thread lock off the bolts. It totally confuses how tight you have the bolts. Next, the pads that come standard are semi sintered. They have to be fully bedded in with the disc to work correctly. After this process the bite is amazing and the pads really last. Downside is they howl when wet. Silent in the dry though. A wet ride somehow seems to condition the pad material even further, then they work even better.
They are wonderfully adjustable. There is a rod which the cable arm pushes in to activate the hydraulics. This rod has an Allen socket end. Screw it inward to move the pads closer to the rotor, outward to give yourself more clearance. Then you have the cable adjuster on the caliper, which is great for on the road tool free adjustment, and possibly reach adjustment at your lever too. Yes, that top bolt on the front caliper is too limited for clearance. It's manageable, but if I lose patience with it I will file the caliper body to give it more clearance. As with all mechanical brakes, cable quality is the ticket. I never felt the need to use compressionless cable with these, but I DO use Shimano cables which seem to compress less than most.
For those interested, the main reason for using hybrid calipers lies in the fact that the pads don't have to be adjusted individually.
Another thing I have found, the pads cost next to nothing. Buying direct from ZTTO on AliExpress they are typically around 15$ for FOUR pairs, and you have the choice of three different compounds. Hope this helps....
Im gonna order a couple of sets. They look great, and I am sure I can set them up to perform well enough for me.. A set of these will go nicely on my Giant NRS2 that I converting to a Drop bar FS Gravel Bike Im currently converting.
nice!
Interesting product and good review. I can't really see the point of them myself. As you said good mechanical calipers are available. My new £800 road bike came with dual side action fully mechanical calipers.
With the oil and potential for seal failure I'd rather gain the full benefit of hydraulic and have a hose and lever as well.
yeah good point. The whole thing with the different configurations of calipers can be a bit of a spendy rabbit hole.
Interested in these brakes, but so they hold up and perform good when yoi do long downhills on a roadbike woth speeda up to 70 kph? Did the breakingpower break in or so?
I've rode a good bit since this video, I've had zero problems, however the braking power is the same and I've not taken it to any mountains.
Because I've 95 kilos and some of the semi hydraulic brakes are not good, the oil inside start to get hot and they don't work before cooling downythats why i ask before buying @@BruceChastain
Have they got stronger since you uploaded this video? I have just installed these on a road bike and they are taking a long time to bed in. No bite at all still.
No still pretty much the same
There are two variables that might affect performance. The calipers and the brake pads. Any chance your old pads are interchangeable with the new calipers? If you could put the old pads on the new calipers that might tell you more about brake performance.
Great video and cool caliper color.
Have you tried using semi metallic brake pads? It will help
no I haven't, but will keep that in mind thank you.
Are your old machanical disc calipers dual pot they do look dual pot 🤔
no, they had a single piston, only on one side. It was a simple single side cam system.
I would take thr better trp hy/rd. Thats the best of the hybrid disc brake caliber
hey GG! I was only somewhat aware of the trp set, but I just looked them up, interestingly on their product page they "strongly recommend" using compressionless cable housing. Also a good thing about the trp is it has a reservoir, which these do not.
@@BruceChastain yeah compressionless housing is a minimum to have
Try changing the pads..
Oswald Ways
Try bleeding them, maybe there is some air bubbles inside the caliper.
yeah that might help... not sure if I really want to try as they are working pretty well as is.
Terrence Plains
doesnt look like they will fit my 180mm rotors. bummer!
Bro just buy Shimano !
Which set should I go for?