I miss these panel interviews. It has been my hobby to check Joyce's channel everyday just to check these golden panel interactions. I learn more about the types watching Joyce's videos rather than reading them only. More powe Joyce!
That is incredibly sweet! Thank you for being such a dedicated viewer and supporter. People like you are the reason I continue to make these videos, Johnnie.
Wonderful panel and topic Joyce! I don't know too many ENTJ's personally, but I definitely can tell who they are at my workplace in Education! They are teachers who are always looking for something new to try, or create methods or lessons that bring efficiency and the fastest results. Interesting how Murcer mentioned not to talk about values because he preferred results and outcomes instead. Great panel! 👏👏👏
Murcer from mongolian mindset isn't entj he's esfp. He even knows that he isn't ENTJ and is using the ENTJ tag for publicity. I have proof of him admitting it. 🤣
As an esfp I really feel entjs. I feel we come from the same “family”. Different yes! I value my emotions a lot more. But still. We are doing types. That sometimes needs to slow down. I also forget so many things… I am an enneagram 9 and I am working on building my fort and do what I want to do and not let other people steer my wheel - like an 8.
Murcer from mongolian mindset isn't entj he's esfp. He even knows that he isn't ENTJ and is using the ENTJ tag for publicity. I have proof of him admitting it. 🤣
As someone who grew up with an immature/unhealthy ESTJ father and has an ENTJ colleague who was the department head for a decade I have to say I am extremely wary of the damage poorly managed inferior Fi can cause to people`s lives and that it can even ripple down generations. I am INTJ so I have that that same family understanding and "secret language" thingy with the ENTJ but damn it is like Te doms largely live in that "not me" spot I always recoil from.
Hey guys this was an awesome video. Thank you Joyce for putting this together as always you contribute alot to the typology community however there something that is bothering me about this video. I say what I am about to say for no other reason other than to tell the truth and give others the chance to know the truth if they wish. You can chose to believe or not believe. Murcer from mongolian mindset knows he is not an ENTJ and is claiming to be one for publicity. I have known murcer personally for 2 years. I was a member of his mongolian mindset group and not only a member or moderator but an admin of that group. I helped create content and grow that group and was one of the most active members on there I taught Murcer a lot when it comes to typing people. However, murcer kicked me out after I told him that I did not believe he was ENTJ and that he was ESFP. I typed him as ESFP and he decided to kick me out of the group. I was shocked at this as Murcer and I were close friends and I trusted him to have a mature discussion about this. CSJ has also typed him as ESFP and many people who know Murcer closely know that he is ESFP. I have hard evidence and concrete proof that murcer knows he is not ENTJ and him admitting to it but saying that he will chose to label himself as ENTJ for "marketing" If you would like to investigate this and know more about the truth you can reach out to me.
@@a1n8f20 Will is smoking crack. He's butthurt that his channel and fb group have stalled. No one's interested in him or his whack content. He mistypes half the people he attempts on..
Your attempts to discredit him is pretty pathetic and only ruins your credibility lol. All he does is make direct, outcome, and Se-Ni statements. Not to mention almost everything that he utters out of his mouth is him projecting some form of system. You wanna talk about screenshots lol, how about all of instigating you've done like trying to "expose" people through your confirmation biases saying they're trying to "pretend" to be another type than they are and trying to sabatoge their reputation while everyone could care less. Or maybe messages you've deleted. Also you wanna talk about him being a fraud, let's talk about how literally everything in your videos or these comments are progression. Practically never mention outcomes at all. Let's be honest here, you really think people Will start flocking to your content after this infantile attention seeking behavior? I mean you couldn't make it more obvious that you're just butthurt for not receiving the glory you seek to have. Maybe this will actually be a lesson to actually put in the work and people would actually value your content like what you see with his channel but I think it's pretty apparent that you seem to value the glory that could be associated with success than actually being useful.
🙋🏾♀️ Question for ENTJs. In regards to monumental positive events like the birth of a child or a wedding or something to that effect, how is your Fi managed? Does it overwhelm Te? Does it have then a time limit type of place to be in charge because this moment trumps everything for the next few hours, at least? Asking on behalf of ENFPs
I was not myself the day of my wedding. I was pure HYPE energy, very much not thinking about anything and just doing, and I rode that high for a couple of days
I'm an ENTJ mother of five and I think the biggest misconception of ENTJs is that we lack feelings or don't feel them at all. We just protect them ferociously. There is also a phenomenon of aspiring with your inferior function to the point of using it more successfully than a dom would. Think of INTJ athletes such as George St. Pierre with his mastery of SE. As the people around me during the events you described are in my inner circle I feel very safe expressing everything I'm feeling. My final thought is that I notice many people viewing Fi as "feelings" when in truth it is more about morals and a value system. So during highly intense events such as a wedding or birth, there really needs to be no disruption of Te if those events are in alignment with your values. If someone feels that their Te will suffer in these situations it's easy to solve by planning ahead how you want a ceremony or birth plan to be followed through. That can take away some of the concern a person might feel if they are losing control.
@@3Zeppolicouldn't have said it better myself. I have never viewed myself as being a robot without feeling. I feel deeply and when it's expressed negatively it can often cause me to feel out of control. With years of practice we can learn to have a more controlled expression of emotions like anger, sadness, injury. I have essentially made a system that plans out how and when I will express those feelings. I run into trouble when I'm caught off gaurd about something. For a planner, being ambushed isn't ideal.
It will definitely be the person I love. No hesitation at all. To me, backstabbing is the worst thing you could do and not choosing to save the person I love the most would be kinda like backstabbing. I don't like people betraying me so I would not betray them as well. I hope you're asking in terms of protecting or is it something else?
the immorality thing really confuses me, if i were at table, in a team of people who are all committed to getting something done. Anyone who derails the task with laziness, confusion, ego or tears should be kicked off the team. I've never understood why being forgiving of this kind of behaviour is rewarded when weeding it out is rude or mean. Will people be upset? of course they will. But truthfully, they should be more upset at bringing so little to the table than they should ever be with anything i could say.
(INTJ) I don't want to be negative towards the ENTJs (though I'm sure they won't care, being so teflon), but I found this a little scary. To me, these perspectives felt like a route I could have gone down in my late teens, but my moral compass prevented me from doing so. For us, Fi is the flame that powers the steam engine and possibly our main motivating factor. I can get very ENTJ like at times, but I hate myself when I do so, as it feels like I have everything backwards. Sorry, ENTJs, I don't mean to be a jerk. :-/
Murcer from mongolian mindset isn't entj he's esfp. He even knows that he isn't ENTJ and is using the ENTJ tag for publicity. I have proof of him admitting it. 🤣
Trust me brother John I am an ENTJ and what some of them said in the interview does not applie to the ENTJ consept .... as an ENTJ I have values and i am so attached to them ... casue values does matter in the end ,money will not (when you die) what they said is just a random dumb sterotype.
@@a1n8f20 I agree with you 100%. I know entjs and estjs too. Te doms value their Fi since that's a place of aspiration. I never met an ENTJ who doesn't care about Fi. This is not at all how ENTJs are tbh.
@John Knight read my latest comment on this video. The long one. Murcer and I knew each other personally and have known each other for a 2 years. I was rhe admin of his group. He is not an ENTJ and I can prove that murcer himself knows he isn't one.
@@theloniusmonk1263 don't make me laugh. You sound like Mongolian Mindset's number one fan. You sound envious. Mongolian Mindset actually draws from the source material and they use interaction styles which is the most accurate way to type somebody. So either you disagree with the source material or you disagree with the way that they implement the source material. Do you have any legitimate grievances with them or are you just being a desecrating INTJ taking out "enemies"?
@@t5396 I'm not his fan or yours. Sounds like you paid him some money 🤣🤣 oh dear! I'm not an INTJ either. Keep believing whatever typology books and UA-cam heros you like PAL 👍
Like I said above. You Solomon are ESFP, and this shows your attempt at trying to use Ti. From a logical perspective how do these two coincide together. That makes no sense at all. Very concrete and uses abstract language.
@TheLastFather and Like I said, I've demonstrated after you expsoed yourself, that you can't tell the difference between informative and direct or concrete. I don't take your typing skills that seriously. But kudos to you for trying atleast. Maybe if you try a little harder you'll get it next time 😆
@@STS-Typology I just point out the flaws. You should invest in the grammarly app. You can’t put two congruent sentences together. INTJ have a keen ability to write. ESFP’s on the other hand do not as they don’t care about those sort of things.
@@STS-Typology so if I’m incorrect why did you change your type from ENTJ to INTJ? You are not addressing that. I wonder why? I know you are ESFP. I have proved it above. Thank you.
I miss these panel interviews. It has been my hobby to check Joyce's channel everyday just to check these golden panel interactions. I learn more about the types watching Joyce's videos rather than reading them only. More powe Joyce!
That is incredibly sweet! Thank you for being such a dedicated viewer and supporter. People like you are the reason I continue to make these videos, Johnnie.
Amazing you were able to find new ENTJ. Joyce you must be working hard.
Great pannel. Surprisingly vulverable. Thanks for this
Thank you!
Wonderful panel and topic Joyce! I don't know too many ENTJ's personally, but I definitely can tell who they are at my workplace in Education!
They are teachers who are always looking for something new to try, or create methods or lessons that bring efficiency and the fastest results.
Interesting how Murcer mentioned not to talk about values because he preferred results and outcomes instead. Great panel! 👏👏👏
Murcer is dope. He's very knowledgeable. He's a chill dude. he goes out of his way to help people achieve their goals.
Murcer from mongolian mindset isn't entj he's esfp.
He even knows that he isn't ENTJ and is using the ENTJ tag for publicity.
I have proof of him admitting it. 🤣
@T murcer, stop using fake accounts to boast about yourself. You are still doing this? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As an esfp I really feel entjs. I feel we come from the same “family”. Different yes! I value my emotions a lot more. But still. We are doing types. That sometimes needs to slow down. I also forget so many things…
I am an enneagram 9 and I am working on building my fort and do what I want to do and not let other people steer my wheel - like an 8.
Murcer from mongolian mindset isn't entj he's esfp.
He even knows that he isn't ENTJ and is using the ENTJ tag for publicity.
I have proof of him admitting it. 🤣
Logic vs heart = never ending life story for ENTJ❤️
As someone who grew up with an immature/unhealthy ESTJ father and has an ENTJ colleague who was the department head for a decade I have to say I am extremely wary of the damage poorly managed inferior Fi can cause to people`s lives and that it can even ripple down generations. I am INTJ so I have that that same family understanding and "secret language" thingy with the ENTJ but damn it is like Te doms largely live in that "not me" spot I always recoil from.
Hey guys this was an awesome video.
Thank you Joyce for putting this together as always you contribute alot to the typology community however there something that is bothering me about this video.
I say what I am about to say for no other reason other than to tell the truth and give others the chance to know the truth if they wish. You can chose to believe or not believe.
Murcer from mongolian mindset knows he is not an ENTJ and is claiming to be one for publicity.
I have known murcer personally for 2 years. I was a member of his mongolian mindset group and not only a member or moderator but an admin of that group.
I helped create content and grow that group and was one of the most active members on there I taught Murcer a lot when it comes to typing people.
However, murcer kicked me out after I told him that I did not believe he was ENTJ and that he was ESFP. I typed him as ESFP and he decided to kick me out of the group. I was shocked at this as Murcer and I were close friends and I trusted him to have a mature discussion about this.
CSJ has also typed him as ESFP and many people who know Murcer closely know that he is ESFP.
I have hard evidence and concrete proof that murcer knows he is not ENTJ and him admitting to it but saying that he will chose to label himself as ENTJ for "marketing"
If you would like to investigate this and know more about the truth you can reach out to me.
I have my own opnions as well that i didnt share ... can you tell me why you think he is an ESFP ?
@@a1n8f20 Will is smoking crack. He's butthurt that his channel and fb group have stalled. No one's interested in him or his whack content. He mistypes half the people he attempts on..
Your attempts to discredit him is pretty pathetic and only ruins your credibility lol. All he does is make direct, outcome, and Se-Ni statements. Not to mention almost everything that he utters out of his mouth is him projecting some form of system. You wanna talk about screenshots lol, how about all of instigating you've done like trying to "expose" people through your confirmation biases saying they're trying to "pretend" to be another type than they are and trying to sabatoge their reputation while everyone could care less. Or maybe messages you've deleted. Also you wanna talk about him being a fraud, let's talk about how literally everything in your videos or these comments are progression. Practically never mention outcomes at all. Let's be honest here, you really think people Will start flocking to your content after this infantile attention seeking behavior? I mean you couldn't make it more obvious that you're just butthurt for not receiving the glory you seek to have. Maybe this will actually be a lesson to actually put in the work and people would actually value your content like what you see with his channel but I think it's pretty apparent that you seem to value the glory that could be associated with success than actually being useful.
@@a1n8f20 check my latest video on my channel. It's a type session I did of him
@@a1n8f20 in that session I show why I think he's ESFP
I wish this was longer. I want to hear more about my type
🙋🏾♀️ Question for ENTJs. In regards to monumental positive events like the birth of a child or a wedding or something to that effect, how is your Fi managed? Does it overwhelm Te? Does it have then a time limit type of place to be in charge because this moment trumps everything for the next few hours, at least? Asking on behalf of ENFPs
I was not myself the day of my wedding. I was pure HYPE energy, very much not thinking about anything and just doing, and I rode that high for a couple of days
@WorldCrafterPrime Thank you fou your response. I appreciate the insight.
I'm an ENTJ mother of five and I think the biggest misconception of ENTJs is that we lack feelings or don't feel them at all. We just protect them ferociously. There is also a phenomenon of aspiring with your inferior function to the point of using it more successfully than a dom would. Think of INTJ athletes such as George St. Pierre with his mastery of SE. As the people around me during the events you described are in my inner circle I feel very safe expressing everything I'm feeling. My final thought is that I notice many people viewing Fi as "feelings" when in truth it is more about morals and a value system. So during highly intense events such as a wedding or birth, there really needs to be no disruption of Te if those events are in alignment with your values. If someone feels that their Te will suffer in these situations it's easy to solve by planning ahead how you want a ceremony or birth plan to be followed through. That can take away some of the concern a person might feel if they are losing control.
@@3Zeppolicouldn't have said it better myself. I have never viewed myself as being a robot without feeling. I feel deeply and when it's expressed negatively it can often cause me to feel out of control. With years of practice we can learn to have a more controlled expression of emotions like anger, sadness, injury. I have essentially made a system that plans out how and when I will express those feelings. I run into trouble when I'm caught off gaurd about something. For a planner, being ambushed isn't ideal.
@@hayleylawson555 Good job. That is an excellent approach!
This is an incredible video. I feel so validated seen and understood! Praise Jesus for such a great video.
Love this, thanks all!
If you’re an ENTJ reading this: If you had to choose between 1000 people you don’t know vs 1 person that you love, what would you choose ?
It will definitely be the person I love. No hesitation at all. To me, backstabbing is the worst thing you could do and not choosing to save the person I love the most would be kinda like backstabbing. I don't like people betraying me so I would not betray them as well. I hope you're asking in terms of protecting or is it something else?
the immorality thing really confuses me, if i were at table, in a team of people who are all committed to getting something done. Anyone who derails the task with laziness, confusion, ego or tears should be kicked off the team. I've never understood why being forgiving of this kind of behaviour is rewarded when weeding it out is rude or mean. Will people be upset? of course they will. But truthfully, they should be more upset at bringing so little to the table than they should ever be with anything i could say.
100% - ENTJ
(INTJ) I don't want to be negative towards the ENTJs (though I'm sure they won't care, being so teflon), but I found this a little scary. To me, these perspectives felt like a route I could have gone down in my late teens, but my moral compass prevented me from doing so. For us, Fi is the flame that powers the steam engine and possibly our main motivating factor. I can get very ENTJ like at times, but I hate myself when I do so, as it feels like I have everything backwards. Sorry, ENTJs, I don't mean to be a jerk. :-/
Murcer from mongolian mindset isn't entj he's esfp.
He even knows that he isn't ENTJ and is using the ENTJ tag for publicity.
I have proof of him admitting it. 🤣
Trust me brother John I am an ENTJ and what some of them said in the interview does not applie to the ENTJ consept .... as an ENTJ I have values and i am so attached to them ... casue values does matter in the end ,money will not (when you die) what they said is just a random dumb sterotype.
@@a1n8f20 I agree with you 100%. I know entjs and estjs too. Te doms value their Fi since that's a place of aspiration.
I never met an ENTJ who doesn't care about Fi. This is not at all how ENTJs are tbh.
@John Knight read my latest comment on this video. The long one. Murcer and I knew each other personally and have known each other for a 2 years. I was rhe admin of his group. He is not an ENTJ and I can prove that murcer himself knows he isn't one.
@@STS-Typology Type isn't static, Jung was clear on that, no matter what MBTI folk say. We shouldn't be asking people to "prove" they're a type.
Don’t agree with Deon, I don’t know if I would choose 1000 people over 1 person that I love 😢
Mongolian Mindset is the tops in typology.
No he's not
@@theloniusmonk1263 don't make me laugh. You sound like Mongolian Mindset's number one fan. You sound envious. Mongolian Mindset actually draws from the source material and they use interaction styles which is the most accurate way to type somebody. So either you disagree with the source material or you disagree with the way that they implement the source material. Do you have any legitimate grievances with them or are you just being a desecrating INTJ taking out "enemies"?
@@t5396 I'm not his fan or yours. Sounds like you paid him some money 🤣🤣 oh dear! I'm not an INTJ either. Keep believing whatever typology books and UA-cam heros you like PAL 👍
mongolian mindset not bias in typology
Mongolian Mindset is doing great. Definitely a sleeper channel.
Murcer is very concrete and doesn't use abstract language. He isn't ENTJ but ESFP.
Like I said above. You Solomon are ESFP, and this shows your attempt at trying to use Ti. From a logical perspective how do these two coincide together. That makes no sense at all. Very concrete and uses abstract language.
@TheLastFather ok. Not sure why you see me tryna use two inconsistent models at the same time but ok 🤣
@TheLastFather and Like I said, I've demonstrated after you expsoed yourself, that you can't tell the difference between informative and direct or concrete. I don't take your typing skills that seriously. But kudos to you for trying atleast. Maybe if you try a little harder you'll get it next time 😆
@@STS-Typology I just point out the flaws. You should invest in the grammarly app. You can’t put two congruent sentences together. INTJ have a keen ability to write. ESFP’s on the other hand do not as they don’t care about those sort of things.
@@STS-Typology so if I’m incorrect why did you change your type from ENTJ to INTJ? You are not addressing that. I wonder why? I know you are ESFP. I have proved it above. Thank you.
I love thanos too! This is hilarious 😂
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*pull back, yup
Each layer at a time…. Only takes about a LIFETIME🥹🥲