Biggering Lorax - Animatic - (Proyecto Escolar)
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As a wise commenter once said
"How bad can I be is the story the Onceler told Ted, Biggering is what actually happened"
It's also the story he tells himself.
its also the story the pr people decided to lie about and change to how bad can i be to make their company seem more innocent ironically
The Oncler told Ted “How Bad Can I Be?” because Ted was a child. “Biggering” being reality shows how adults will “Snuff Out The Light” of the true stories with darker and more realistic morals to “Tune Out” the next generation.
For example, The Brothers Grimm’s stories are constantly changed over the years. Nobody really remembers how it really happened unless you read the true stories (which are either thrown out or dusted under the rugs of life).
"How Bad Can I Be?" is the story that the real life "Oncelers" aka. investors in the movie want tou to think about them, and "Biggering" is the cold hard truth they don't want you to hear.
Oh 😮 I can feel that
I love how in this, the Lorax isn’t just trying to save the Trees, he’s trying to save the Once-ler
yes I love that. He genuinely cares about the onceler in this version and doesn’t want him to succumb to his pride and greed
ARTHUR MORGAN? I@M PLAYING YOUR GAME RIGHT NOW TO?!
@@Sonnyboi75 And here is the fate
@@WarCriminalsimp what
@@AngelTheOfficialand he knows if he saves the guy, he hits two birds with one stone.
I’m so glad Biggering is still getting attention even after all this time, it genuinely does go hard.
ong tho
Fr
#releasethebiggeringcut
With the recent Lorax meme, more people are reacting to "The Lorax" animatics!
Ikr
I love how the Onceler repeats what the Lorax says: “My biggering is triggering more biggering”, he’s actively acknowledging his flaws and does nothing to stop them, even encouraging them
To him they weren't flaws, but rather natural consequences of success, and envigorating ones on top of that. It's hard to correct a flaw when it's making you feel good
@@paulcarter9652not even consequences, they’re the goal
That's the best part of this song: he knew what he was doing, and did it anyway
Love the change from "I must keep biggering" to "I won't stop biggering". He is becoming aware of his acts, changing his views on them, they aren't an obligation (I must) they are his will (I won't stop)
@@gatlinggun511exactly. The goal post just keeps moving a millionaire wants a billion dollars, billionaires want a trillion etc.
What makes this cooler is that instead of "trees" it's "things" that he says are dying, meaning that he knows the greater-scale impact of his deforestation, endangering the lives of innocent creatures. It truly makes him a villain
literally makes him a real villain
Except that wasn't the point of the original. He wasn't trying to be evil he just wanted to capitalize on his neat idea. He was oblivious to the fact that creatures were dying not doing it intentionally. But by the time he figured out what he was doing his greed was too big.
@@Spiralredd he wasn't trying to be evil, sure. He was acting on his greed while not caring about the devastating effects on the eco system though. I think I'd call that quite evil. Evil people don't view themselves as evil. They do what they think is the correct thing, but their view of the world is warped by hate and greed, so they are actually commiting atrocities.
@@Idkpleasejustletmechangeitit wasn't him not caring it was him being oblivious like I said. And by the time he realized what he was doing he was too far gone
@@Spiralredd he'd be pretty fucking stupid if he was unable to realise the effect his actions have despite having two perfectly functioning eyes. You don't just accidentally turn the entire world into a wasteland. How would that even work? " *trips* *entire world turns into wasteland* oops! " Is that how it happens?
I love how the *hands* are sending Onceler up to the sky, instead of him growing. His company didn’t grow on its own, the reason he got as big as he did was because of his humongous fanbase. He knows he can get away with everything because his fans will defend and support him no matter what, and THIS is what ALSO triggers his biggering.
It also serves as a wonderful call back to the original book.
I even thought of an extension of that idea where the gloves descending on a healthy valley before grabbing the tree tufts which turn into thneeds and deteriorate in their hands
And on top of that, it *also* acts as an amazing piece of metacommentary to the actual fanbase of the Lorax movie.
@@NickAndriadzeand all the corporate commercials for the Lorax movie. Truffula approved cars?
HUMONGOSAURIO
They made a huge mistake cutting this song... It's one of the best villain songs I've heard. I don't care if it's "anti-corporate" or "too scary for kids" it's actually true to the story. Also great storyboard
For me It how bad can i be would go at the beginning and biggering near the end
@@capitanaless1o493 i think there was 100% a way they could have implemented both songs to show the progression of the onceler's greed. going from "what i'm doing isn't so bad" to "im dont care what im doing i need everything"
@@stickguyy yeah like we get "how bad" and by the end of that song his family is like "we're running out of trees" then a few minutes later we get "biggering" which ends on a shot of the wasteland he left, at which point he realizes he fucked up
Anti corporatism is the point of this story.
@@rohamcsigusz yes. and they completely ruined that in the movie by changing the message
Absolutely love how this version has him say “Who cares if some *things* are dying.” Rather than “Who cares if a few trees are dying.”
Right? It gives so much more weight to his actions and shows how it can affect *everyone* rather than one thing
And also he kinda stops before he says some things, it's a really good detail
That line really gets you thinking like, he will do anything to be up and beyond, he doesn’t care who and what gets hurt. That’s what I see in this broken villain.
Literally it means that Once-ler does not even consider trees as living beings, but only as objects
You also gotta remember, it’s not few, its some, there are more things dying to his hands than nature itself can take, and all that’s left to show for it is the snickering grin upon the Onecelors face
3:04 never fails to send chills down my spine because it's like a parallelism to "How Bad Can I Be" but with a darker tone.
it's just so epic. The tone, the guitar, the chorus
This song strikes like napalm while the other one I the final cut of the film hits like a wet noodle
I kinda wish we had both biggering and how can I be. That would make the shared part really good. :)
I really hope that the similarities to the late 70’s Pink Floyd albums in that part are intentional cus the sound, themes, and all around vibe perfectly match them
@@lamdontknow1547 I saw someone say on another video that How Bad Can I Be is the Onceler being an unreliable narrator and Biggering is how it really went down.
cant believe we almost got a punk rock version of the lorax
Can't believe we were robbed of that
The army of green gloves is not only really cool imagery, it’s also an excellent reference to how only the Onceler’s arms were ever shown in the original book. Great work!
I also love the way it feels like it represents the vices the Lorax warned the Onceler of cultivating: Greed and pride.
Greed: they reach out in all directions to grab and take for him as he keeps wanting more if not it all. Nowhere is safe from his reach. If it is something he wants or can get him what he wants, he'll take it and nothing can stop him now.
Pride: they raise and elevate him higher and higher as his ego grows with his profits, till he's looking down on those he once saw as friends and now views as in his way, they and everyone else are now beneath him figuratively and literally from where he stands, now.
I was hoping someone else noticed that
Yes, because if he has a face and skin colour, he can't be all of us.
Also looks like they're Heiling
@@drippyneco9419 yeah I noticed it looked like one of those nazi propaganda posters. It’s interesting how this animatic portrays that as the onceler was growing so did a fascistic following grow around him. It’s seen in his employees and the crowd near the end too
OMG I just had the thought, wouldn't it be fucking awesome if the office was actually pristine white and monochrome, but as the song goes on, the inside of the building gets more and more red, until the line "a company's an animal" where everything inside is just red and green. Showing how the onceler, in his green suit representing pride, acts as a parasite inside the corporation, representing greed and literally inside the belly of the beast. I absolutely love the parallelism
you are a genius
mind blown
Green is usually the color for greed too
Holy Mother of ideas
Christmas-
The idea of Danny Devito giving an animated speech about greed in the middle of a rock song is just so funny to me
On god. I just checked newest comments bruh.
can we marry
@@izvmiq7259sure 👍
As an eight year old kid in 2012, I absolutely loved How Bad Can I Be?
As a nineteen year old adult in 2023, I realize Biggering is superior in every way.
Igual, mi yo de chiquito amaba esta canción, unos 3 años después me olvide de la existencia de esta película, después me acordé por los memes que se hacen con la canción de" Cuán malo puedo ser?"(How bad can I be, pongo esto por qué no se si se tradusca bien) y me sigue gustando mucho la canción, pero Biggering, me deja sin palabras
Here’s the thing. I like How Bad Can I Be? It’s a glitzy pop song that showcases the PR campaigns to sanitize the company’s image and is scary in its own right.
The problem is that it’s not played as a front; it’s played straight. It shows the Onceler getting caught up in his own messaging and being stunned at the end when the last tree is chopped down. Canonically, the Onceler has deniability. He doesn’t realize what he’s doing until it’s too late. It’s the exact sort of thing CEOs hide behind every time they do something shitty, and that’s the problem.
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ I honestly just like Biggering more because he knows what he's doing is wrong, but doesn't care, which is how a lot of companies are like. And because it's got that awesome ending to it. 🤩
As an 11 year old in 2023, the only valuable thing to be sucked out of How Bad Can I Be are the memes and the instrumental
@@DesprezoRascunhoschad opinion kiddo
Here’s the thing. I like How Bad Can I Be? It’s a glitzy pop song that showcases the PR campaigns to sanitize the company’s image, eventually starting to show the darkness underneath and is scary in its own right.
The problem is that when it comes to the Onceler, it’s not played as a front; it’s played straight. It shows the Onceler getting caught up in his own messaging and being stunned at the end when the last tree is chopped down. Canonically, the Onceler has deniability. He doesn’t realize what he’s doing until it’s too late. It’s the exact sort of thing CEOs hide behind every time they do something horrible, and that’s the problem.
This song, on the other hand, shows the Onceler knowing everything he’s doing and the impact of it. The movie is good, but if not for corporate meddling, it could have been incredible.
Exactly
I wouldn't care about How Bad Can I Be if we also had Biggering afterwards to contrast with it and show that the first one is just a facade, but the fact they cut it and tried to make the Onceler a quirky figure that is good and doesn't realize he does bad is just ....... talk about misunderstanding the source material and making a much less compelling villain as a result. I just love the characterization Biggering does, yes he isn't fully aware of the weight of his actions, but he's still aware that he is doing something bad and willingly chooses to ignore it to pursue his own hubris.
We were robbed of one of the greatest villain songs, Biggering would honestly have saved the movie and it's messaging (not 100% but it still would have improved it so massively it's not even funny)
@@sephikong8323 I agree Biggering could have worked as a dark reprise to How Bad Can I Be.
wow that visual of all the hands reaching out with the "WHO CARES IF, SOME THINGS ARE DYIIIING!"
was really good
this definitely stands as one of the best visualizations of the song
Does anyone else want to use this song in their own movie or something?
@Rion yes
That part literally gave me chills with the awesome visuals included.
The green hands, or rather what looks to be his own hands reaching out could be a symbolism of ego warps the perception of reality,
or,
meaning to symbolize how the customers and consumers are just as greedy and capable of greed as he is, because they're in fact the ones destroying the environment through him
Silencio ingles✋
THIS is what schools should motivate students to make. What an amazing work of art!
this is a school proyect actually
Too bad schools only care about pushing kids to pass exams for content they won't even remember afterwards. It's just a competition of memory and another toxic practicality of capitalism.
Yeah sure, make a bunch of ten year olds draw the equivalent of the Mona Lisa for five minutes.
guys, nobody tell him about the existance of art schools
@@theringmaster6434 You do know that Art School is a thing, right?
This song would’ve literally changed a whole generation if they had kept it in the movie.
Ironically a big corporation forced Illumination to remove it
Precisely why it was cut. Who made this, after all?
@@theregalproletariatBig money got scared that the song was basically a slap in the face
@@balsamicsalad160 Which is incredibly ironic how big companies decided that reality was too scary, the one that they perpetuate and create
"We can't do that, it'd make us look bad!"
This puts "how bad can I be" to shame. And I aslo like that he knows what he is doing to the environment, unlike the original he only recognizes untill the last tree, so this makes him a real villain.
"AND I'LL KEEP BIGGERING! AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!"
"there it is... The last one... That's whats gonna stop you"
"What have I done?..."
Tbh he even acts more evil here than the 1972 one in my opinion
@@irmaventura1433 yea, you definitely have a point
I'd like to think he'd still have that last moment realization though, as he's at his peak, he sees the one thing that will destroy his company for good. realizing the lorax was right
@@fusionwing4208 yea, kinda like I 1972. It'd be more like the story. Like, with 2012 I genuinely believe he felt bad for destroying the forest. In 1972, it's like a realization as well, but not a "oh, dang I destroyed everything" more like "oh, dang, I'm not on top anymore" same like how it could be for biggering
That moment you realize a company cut out a song about corporate corruption because it was to real for them
a school project can be better than the whole movie
Facts
it's a good video but the movie is way better ☠️
Please 3D animate this
@@horse3987the movie is actual cancer
@@BaronVladHarkonnen tell me another joke
That imagery of the once ler being lifted up by his fans and consumers wearing those iconic green gloves is brilliant. It shows how much his ego has grown. And it makes it even more crushing when the last tree gets cut down.
Literally…and the part when he’s telling Ted what he did was so upsetting!! Ted is 12 and how old is the once-ler?!
@@ThunderClanFan22he's probably like 70 or something
Woah can't believe I found this masterpiece by going down a rabbit hole about Lorax critiques. AMAZING work. It's so sad that Illumination scrapped biggering from the final product, but if they put it in then amazing fan works like this never would have come to existence, so for that I'm grateful.
I agree!
It's sad that they trashed the movie until it became a soulless corporate animation. Ironic.
Ye
It's probably a worthy sacrifice in order to get a good Lorax movie that respects the original book, presents the message the book had to give but for newer generations, and even does a better job at teaching the lesson the book already does a great job teaching by not only making The once-ler really be someone the audience can relate to and feel like it could easily be them going through the same things as the once-ler, but also showing how the companies and billionaires aren't the only ones to blame, but also the people who consume all of these products that destroy nature in order to produce (sometimes even in order to use), supporting and incentivating the companies to keep fabricating it regardless of it's consequences, by having O'hare and thneedvile citizens as a whole exist.
Yes, literally having the movie as a whole be the same and just inserting this music on the point how bad can i be would usually play would not fix it, but you need to consider that biggering was made for a very different lorax movie as you can see it even more by listening to all of the other scrapped songs made for the movie, so if Ilumination was willing to let Biggering in, they probably would also be willing to do the whole movie as it was originally intended.
In fact, this hypothetic scenario would probably also have a really different Ilumination that actually cares for the quality of their content, just like the Ilumination that did the first Despicable me (I know Ilumination didn't completely change from despicable me to the Lorax movie in terms of the people who work on it, but i mean that Ilumination was clearly going for different things when doing the first despicable me than most of their other movies), or maybe it would just take a little longer for them to start to choose profit over quality, and then we would have maybe, like, 3 good Ilumination movies instead of 1
Damn i wrote a lot more than i anticipated
@@JosoezinduASMRpog Why are you defending illumination lmao
4:18 The "Who cares if some things are dying"
Good lord... MUSICALLY AND VOCALLY BRILLIANT AND THE STORYBOARD IS BRILLIANT.
Petition to have biggering animated by the Lorax animators
👇
Wow, this is probably one of the best biggering storyboards out there, this goes hard
It's not an storyboard, it's an animatic.
@@ethandouro4334 eh an animatic is just the good parts of a storyboard with music
@@Sputterbug no it's not 💀
@Ethan d'Ouro i mean tbf its a more cleaned up storyboard with more leaning into the actual product so??? Idk 😭
@@marcoTHECOOLESTCAT yes! But they are still different.
Everyone is begging for a proper full fledged animation for this song. It's robbery that it never made the cut because Illumination execs thought it was "too dark."
They didn't think it was too dark. That was just an excuse in my opinion. I think what they really didn't like was how it hit too close to home and made it seem like the Onceler wasn't the sweet innocent little man that was manipulated into bad deeds by his family that "How Bad Can I be" made him out to be
@@thallium.81 Yet one thing people forget is that, a sweet innocent person can be their own worst manipulator, by letting their gluttony run like wildfire.
dont you think it describes higher ups in coompanies too much
And this robbery is triggering more biggery!
How Bad Can I Be is a total bop, but this is just 🤌
The symbolism in this is top notch. I love the animals running away from the profit arrow, and the multitude of green gloves. The latter shows that it’s really not JUST the Oncler’s fault: it was also the system that allowed him to do it. I also love the “Too big to Fail” picture as well. I keep finding more perfectly placed small details each time I rewatch. Great work!
I agree. I do have an analysis that it’s not really the factory that was bad, just the greed and the imbalance behind the onclers goals. If the oncler planted seeds for everyone he cut down, or invented a device to harvest the material, or have his own tree grove within the factory to harvest material, then it’s help the environment and keep the economy going. Then again, we wouldn’t have the Lorax story we know today.
@@savannahhague4989 Indeed. Once-ler's mistake was his pride, he genuinely thought his company just couldn't fail, after all, it was so successful, no way he would just, ya know, run out of resources with the way he recklessly was harvesting the trees for the thneeds
And if that isn't made clear...look at the painting of the Once-ler where it says "too big to fail". That's the mentality Once-ler himself had, both in HBCIB and Biggering
@@savannahhague4989 Well the Lorax is also a critique of the inherent flaw of "unlimited production, limited resources", which we see in the world to this day. There is realistically nothing the Onceler could have done to stop the general course of the trees, because if he cuts down on his production he loses revenue and if profits go down then shareholders lose confidence, and it also may open the window for competitors to come in who may or may not care being sustainable.
@@jose13neo Yup, as Once-ler puts it "if he didn't do it, someone else would"
Probably one of my favorite differences about both songs is that in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Onceler says ”Who cares if some trees are dying?” Whereas in “Biggering” he says “Who cares if some THINGS are dying?” The difference being that the Onceler in the cut version is far more aware of his actions than he was in “How Bad Can I Be?” and is fully aware that it isn’t just trees that are dying from what he is doing.
This song literally means
“The more you get the more you want”
The hands symbolising the people's good word for him and love for him lifting him up and raising him on a pedestal of his own destruction is so amazing and well done
That’s actually the most perfect way of describing that symbolism, bravo mate
This could've easily been one of the best villain songs in animation. It's sad because I feel that the once-ler had potential to be a good and interesting antagonist but sadly this was made by illumination.
In my opinion they messed up on how bad can I be, it kinda took away the message until the very end of the movie tbh.
@@marcelasaenz713And minions rise of gru, Most people enjoyed it and me too
@@marcelasaenz713Mario movie was trash what you mean they made Luigi into a bit@h boy under his brother and they only do something with him in the very end, super lazy writing
@@marcelasaenz713 ***all a days
Despicable Me was real good and the second one is kinds underrated.
Everything looks so complete and clean, you even kept the cuteness of the Once-Ler while leaving no doubt of his sins, by bringing this song to life. The shot angles and cuts truly make this for me. I love your art style, and this deserves all the love it can get and more!
I gues artstyle does matter, you can somehow make the onceler devolve into a corporate monster but still manage to keep him a tumblr fangirl magnet
@@harbour2118 not sure why the sexism was necessary but this is a common occurrence in anime.
@@Sputterbug i wasnt being sexist, i just noticed there were fangirls were hogging over him like hoes on santa
@@Sputterbug can you explain to me how that’s sexist?
@@faresalsayed9005 his ass prob thought fangirl was sexist cuz he didnt mention fanboys too
“WHO CARES IF SOME THINGS ARE DYINGGGGGGGG!!!! I DON’T WANNA HEAR YOUR CRYINGGGGGGGG!!!!”
*Bro that honestly hits way to close to home…*
I love how here 3:13 the poster says “To Big To Fail” showing how companies think once a product is selling well. It doesn’t matter the negative effect that come out of it or anything else cause the company thinks and is so high on ego they believe it can’t fail no matter what happens.
It's also a reference to wall street, when people used to say the American banks were "too big to fail," then the wall street crash happened.
The image of the Once-Ler gloved hands being the crowd is by far the most impactful image. Although the Once-Ler in the past was meant to be a stand in for big business, it also overlooked the other side of the coin; the people who enable them by buying their products. Especially now a days with some corporations having such a large customer base it's at points hard to solely blame the faceless company.
The Lorax move could've really benefited from the message saying that "Yes, YOU can become a Once-Ler if you fall to greed". Instead they went with car commercials, pancake ads, and removing the song that would wrap it all up.
I feel as if Illumination shouldn’t have been put in charge of making this movie based on Seuss' work. Maybe it should’ve been a different studio. One that actually cared about the book's timeless message.
@@worthybutter2004, maybe Studio Ghibli could’ve been in charge of making The Lorax? If they could make a movie adaption of Howl’s Moving Castle with gorgeous animation and an amazing English dub voice cast, I think they could’ve done The Lorax right.
@@Beanie-Inkling2749 Hmm, not my personal choice, but an interesting one.
@@worthybutter2004 , I mean, I do remember Studio Ghibli having one movie known as Tales From Earthsea that had a villain with no sympathy or tragic backstory. That’s just my opinion but if you suggest any more animated studios, let me know on the double because I’m actually one of the many people who actually WANT this song to have a scene.
@@worthybutter2004I was thinking Dreamworks lol
Lorax of 1972 had a dark vibe the colours and the designs and the best part that the ending isn't satisfying because ends with onceler giving the seed and it ends, it doesn't show Ted going to the town and making the trees grow again and it was on porpuse because explains that we need to do something. And the fact that the Once Ler doesn't have a face show that Once Ler was created to represent the companies as a whole. The 2012 version is fine but "The Lorax" is a book that would have an amazing adaptation, more darker, mature and realistic. Because the message that we're killing our planet hits hard when you realise that you're part of the problem, and Biggering shows me how much pontential it had.
This is not the only song eliminated, originally it was planned that the film would be darker and more faithful to the book, this due to the other original songs on the soundtrack that indicated a darker and more serious tone, the studio forced the scriptwriters to changing the entire movie to be children's, it was studio interference that ruined this movie and all the potential it had
@@estrella-om7tu I know, they originally were going to make Ted a selfish kid that wants a tree just because he wants everything, and and he would learn that being selfish was the reason that there wasn't anymore trees, but instaed made him a sassy teenager that wants to impress a girl.
@@Sub_marino Yes, also that Thneedville was going to be a dystopia where the citizens could not see the sun because of the pollution, the buildings were destroyed, everyone was aware but they became consumerist and materialistic, from here you can understand Ted's mentality, a hill is also mentioned named after the former founder of thneedville, which was the only thing that stayed the same but will be replaced by a pizza chain, this is on the thneedville demo song
@@estrella-om7tu Thats art
The Art Style gives me major Golden Age Disney/2D DreamWorks vibes, love it!
@mohamed zayan I think it's more about the Lorax himself and the layout. Golden Disney did have a thing for big mustaches.
The Lorax’s design is actual adorable tho
He look like a pet lol
I think Biggering actually fits well with the character arc Ted was going to have about being materialistic and always needing more stuff.
It was in the original plans of the film that the boy was materialistic and consumerist at first, but upon hearing the story of the onceler his vision changes.
They also altered the lyrics of the opening song to be less materialistic
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ Not only did they remove the letters that showed materialism, they also removed the letters that reflected that the city was a dystopia, mentioning things like they cannot see the sun, there is smoke, alarming chemicals, and they showed that the citizens were consumerists and were not naive to the pollution of the city, they even knew who was the cause by mentioning a hill with the name of its founder that they would turn it into a pizza chain and apparently Ted was originally going to be a spoiled and consumerist child who only wanted a tree because no one in the city city had one having selfish desires and who believed himself superior to others, among other things
¿Esto de verdad es un proyecto escolar? Para mí es increíble.
no es cualquier proyecto escolar, ES UN PROYECTO ESCOLAR UNIVERTSITARIO EN LA UNIVERSIDAD DE ARTES DONDE ESTUDIO EDD GOULD EL CREADOR DE EDDSWORLD
la primer vez que tengo 100 likes :D
Probablemente esté estudiando animación, y tengo entendido pueden tener este tipo de proyectos. Está increíble el resultado
@@baconwings8816 :0
@@baconwings8816 :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this reply section taught me spanish
The green hand visuals were absolutely stunning. They are so powerful.
I absolutely love how the Onceler walks away from the Lorax as he’s trying to save him, then has security drag him off. It perfectly represents how soulless and punishing of good people corporates are, and how the Onceler knows what he’s doing is wrong but is unwilling to listen or even care. Both the song animation paint him as an actual villain and not some lanky kid who did an oopsie and damn near ruined the entire planet
I like how the hands lifting up the once-ler is symbolic of how the consumers demand fuels greed.
Illumination seriously needs to make a 2nd movie about the lorax from the oncelers pov with this song in it. It starts out with how sheltered and alone the onceler was when he was younger and how that drove him to madness. With the new technology and advanced animation, it could be the greatest movie of the year.
I don't know if they'd care too much about doing that, tbh.
@@worthybutter2004 because everyone likes and loves the movie. Illumination is greedy.
@@DRXXMURjust like onceler 💀
…anyone but illumination, honestly. They screwed up bad, and they’d screw up again.
People said DreamWorks should redirect The Lorax cuz You know DreamWorks... They do Dark Stuffs Sometimes
I really like this video. It really helps to realize that "Biggering" is definitely better than "How bad can I be". Because it reveals all the potential that this song had.
[Onceler]
At first I didn't realize
I needed all this stuff
I had a little cottage
And that cottage was enough
A place where I could sit and knit
A place where I could sell my Thneeds
But now I've had a little time
To re-assess my needs
And I need a bigger office
I need a bigger chair
A bigger desk, a bigger staff
A bigger hat to wear
Because I'm biggering
I'm figuring I'm biggering
And biggering is triggering
More biggering
[Lorax]
Hey, listen up, meathead
I'm going to say this once, and I'm not gonna repeat it
Greed ya see, it's like a little pet, alright?
And the more and more and more that you go and feed it
The more hungry it'll get
But you know, you really can't blame greed
No, that's stupid
You see, it's gotta worm inside
Oh yeah, that's right
It's one that always needs to feed
And it is never satisfied
You get it?
But the more you try to find it
The more it likes to hide
Now listen that is nasty little worm
And I like to call it pride
See, now that's why you're biggering
Listen here, idiot
I'm figuring on biggering
But that biggering's just triggering more biggering
Got that? Alright
[Onceler]
There is a principle of nature
That most every creature knows
It's called survival of the fittest
And this is how it goes
The animal that wins has got to
Claw and kick and punch
The animal that doesn't
Winds up someone else's lunch
A company's an animal
That's trying to survive (survive)
It's struggling, and fighting
Just to keep itself alive
I must keep biggering
I'm figuring I'm biggering
Though biggering is triggering more biggering
I won't stop
Biggering
I'm figuring I'm biggering
And biggering is triggering more biggering
And the customers are buying
And the money multiplying
And the pr people lying
And the lawyers are denying
Who cares if some things are dying?
I don't wanna hear your crying
This is all so gratifying
I love all the things with the onceler that the other comments have said, but something I especially love is how the Lorax is portrayed here.
He knows there’s nothing he can do but talk. He’s not some all powerful guardian, he can’t send the fury of the forest after the onceler and send him packing. But he still *tries.* You can see it from the look of his eyes and how he moves in his speech, he is doing EVERYTHING he can to protect his home, the forest he exists to be the guardian of. He’s trying his absolute best to get through to the man he once viewed as someone he could possibly call a friend. His efforts aren’t just to save the forest, they’re to save a man from being consumed by his pride and greed. And yet, it’s not enough.
But even after that, the Lorax tries.
He evacuates as many animals as he can, even stands against him still in the face of his monstrous machines, unnatural heaps of metal that the Lorax could never hope to stop. And yet he still tries to save what he can, what little is left.
And while he fails, it’s an amazing effort made by someone who could do nothing but talk.
He’s lost, yes, but he saved every little thing he could.
And yet at the end, when the onceler’s greed has caught up to him and he’s lost near everything he could use to keep his business going, the Lorax is still there. Not to say “I told you so”, but from the way he’s standing, because he feels sorry for the man. The man he once called a possible friend, who fell into a pit of greed, and didn’t even attempt to climb out of it, despite his best efforts to urge him to.
But still, he’s there after all that.
Just find it interesting how perfectly he’s portrayed here.
For song that meant to Critize corporate greed they really make it sound badass af
It kind of is. However, he would be more based if he planted more trees to make more profit endlessly.
Love the symbolism of the green arms representing his growing influence on the world around him and a neat reference to the book where he only see his arms.
no me engañen, eso no es un proyecto escolar, eso es lo que presento alguien de illumination y ellos lo descartaron en favor de cuan malo puedo ser, de verdad parece profesional! increible es quedarse corto!
Mepa que no te leíste la descripción XDDD
@@nath601 mepa que no te leiste mi comentario completo, dije claramente "parece profesional" no "es profesional"
@@nath601 Esa compresión lectora esta faltante xDDD
Biggering wasn't scrapped because it was too scary for kids.
It was scrapped because it was too scary for adults.
Lol
Oh, I love it! Once-ler is much more innocent here than I've seen in other "Biggering" animatics. Don't get me wrong, I think it's cool and shows how he didn't become this corporate monster in one second.
Everything is so clean, and I just adore your style, especially how you drew his hair and face. Once-ler's movements are quite expressive, and the use of colours only adds to the overall picture of making the characters the main spotlight.
You've done an outstanding job. Thank you.
This song is actually good enough to be a fully realised villain song, and it's only the demo! Imagine if they could polish it a bit more!
Being a demo it sounds incredible I can't imagine it being finished
Esto no es un proyecto escolar, es arte
Es mejor que toda la película
si@@valentinorivera6649
How bad can I be is Illumination’s version of the story, Biggering is what actually happened
Something about the fact that, he knows what he’s doing wrong in this song, says something. In how bad can I be, he literally sings about how he doesn’t think he does anything wrong, and when he sees the last tree fall, he is HEARTBROKEN, just look at his face. In this song, he hears the Lorax and acknowledges him, he KNOWS he’s wronging, but he doesn’t care. He says literally that he “doesn’t wanna hear your crying”, he knows what he’s doing is causing pain to things, but only cares about biggering, and speaking of hurting things, he says “who cares if some things are dying” compared to how bad can I be says “a few trees”, so in the song he acknowledged that he’s hurting more than just trees. Great song, it sucks they didn’t use it since it sounds too much like illumination them self
Cada canción representa una parte diferente de la inconciencia ambiental
whoever decided not to putt this in the movie was definitely biggering.
This goes so incredibly hard. The whole feel of Biggering is captured perfectly both in the expressions of the characters and the general tone of the actions being taken. The Lorax specifically impressed me a lot, his body movement showed his anger and desperation for the Once-ler to realize the true weight of his actions. Also you kinda made him scary ngl.... Who knew a fluffy orange creature could have such an intense glare?
Already in the song it seems very serious, in some animatics sometimes the Lorax becomes a little scary especially when he says "pride" that part gave me chills, good job
Dios...la película la pudo dar tanto con esta canción,y llegar a ser de las que se quedan tanto en tu cabeza que jamás,pero le tuvieron miedo al éxito
En serio no entiendo:
Cómo es que "la afición", "los fans", "los novatos" hagan mejor trabajo que los profesionales.
Es la mejor animación que he visto de este rolón, es una de mis canciones favoritas y nadie había podido animarla con la justicia que lo hiciste.
Felicidades,
Mucho éxito
🔥 Yo te respondo esa pregunta:
Si ves los storyboards oficiales del Lorax y comentarios de los creadores, ellos tenían una idea más compleja y madura para desarrollar la película. Y se notaba que sabían lo que hacían con solo echar un vistazo al arte oficial.
Lo que pasó fue que los ejecutivos de Illumination les prohibieron y censuraron muchísimas cosas, y el resultado fue lo que obtuvimos. Toda una pena.
@@TedWiggins y sabiendo que esta es la segunda peli animada del estudio después de Mi villano favorito 1 (siendo una peli que a veces es madura) es triste como el estudio se alejó de lo que fue su primer peli y hicieron más películas con trama simplona.
"¿Cómo es que los fans hacen mejor trabajo que los profesionales?"
Pues a la hora de hacer un proyecto como una película o una obra, los trabajadores tienen que ser supervisados por moderadores. Los fans en cambio tienen más libertad y se les permite más creatividad.
My favorite thing about this is the fact that almost everyone who is a part of the once-ler is also wearing green gloves because they want to be EXACTLY like him so they're mimicking his style because they believe that they can also reach similar heights that he has reached with their help
I like that in your version we often don't see the Once-ler's face. In the original the Once-ler wasn't meant to be a person - he was meant to be a presentation of every person. We all could become a Once-ler, it wasn't a fault found in just one young man. It is a fault in humans pride over our ability to dominate our surrondings.
If the lorax was a 1990s disney movie:
REAL
How bad can I be is the once-ler denying what he's doing is wrong
Biggering is the once-ler admitting what he's doing is wrong, he just doesn't care
Also I stand with the theory that how bad can I be is what the once-ler told ted while biggering is what actually happened
The Lorax calling him an idiot like that.
I see how it was 2 dark for the Lorax now.
what are you talking about
Ok, vi el storyboard oficial de esta canción, vi otros animatics y mucho más y aún así
Aún así, tu has logrado de verdad el mejor resultado con ésto, incluso haces lograr hacer ver aún más malvado al Once-Ler que en el storyboard oficial de la canción, de verdad, maravilloso, maravilloso trabajo
there is no official storyboard…
@@leeshapon no lo hay? Oh, que extraño, entonces lo que debí ver fue un fake, mala mía
@@TherealBochiomototaxi É, não tem storyboards oficiais para a animação, mas há alguns glimpses pelo o que sei.
@@TherealBochiomototaxi TODOS los que hay son fan
@@TherealBochiomototaxi hablas del de whysoanimated? ese es fanmade pero muchos lo confunden y piensan que es oficial
He builds his foundations to rise above the clouds of smog and smoke that he created
Ballin' symbolism.
covering his eyes with shadows once he really delves deep into biggering showing a loss of humanity but also showing a bit of the original movie's thing of having him be more faceless so he can be anyone
Imagine creating one of the best villain songs ever made. And then not using it
its nice to see this song is getting the attention it deserves. It really is a shame it never saw the light of day. It really could have made the movie incredible with its powerful storytelling.
I know it works better for the moral of the story, but I've always found it funny how the onceler immediately goes broke when the truffula trees die out like he didn't have millions saved up in his bank account
Maybe it's bankruptcy but idk how it works. Im not a million dollar company owner.
There's a theory.
At the moment the thneed's production stopped he couldn't pay anymore to his lawyers and then lost a lot of money paying to not fall in the jail, that's why "broke so fast"
@@reynita249 hmm interesting. thanks for the info
I like the analogy the Lorax makes of greed and pride being a pet with a parasite the parasites the problem but the pet is fueling it.
4:08 to 4:18 is a BANGER
Tumblr sexy man single-handedly destroys the ecosystem😱😱😱😱😱
Mrbeast when he realises kids don’t care about the controversy:
4:09 MrBeast before and during the allegations
This is a masterpiece! I seriously can’t get over how they made one of the best villain songs of all time and just cut it from the movie! This storyboard is incredible too and I love the green gloves as an homage to the original Lorax book! If I had a Time Machine making illumination put this song in their movie would be on the to do list.
Who Cares if Some THINGS Are Dying?
He is not talking about Trees he is talking about things
He can kill things for money
Not just trees but anything
That is why this song is darker and better than “How Bad Can I Be”
the multiple hands reaching out and making way for the onceler's corporate ascendancy as a metaphor for the invisible hand driving market forces and carrying him to the (literal) top is brilliant. extremely inspired stuff in the last third, awesome work!
What an outstanding work of art! 🌟
Indeed is!
This is what the Lorax movie should have been: this animatic, the song, and the fact that they should've focused on the Once-ler and the Lorax only, without any additional bland and empty characters. Instead, they chose to twist it around, and completely discarded and scrapped the purpose and the meaning of the original book/concept. The movie makes him out to be a guy that was forced into his greedy business by his family, they tried to make the audience empathize with him, and it does not work for what he is meant to represent. If they put more effort into the movie, they could've made him descend into greed like into an addiction: not being able to stop, grasping more and more. Starting as an enthusiastic, artistic and creative person, and becoming a greedy, selfish and prideful seller; and on top of that, the consumers of the product being no better than the corporation itself
This song wasn't "too dark for kids", kids were perfectly fine watching old Disney movies, or the tragic Pixar movies. They just did not want to expose their own company for being just like the Once-ler
Truly a shame, and a wasted potential
Me encanta que en 3:21 sea un guiño a la animacion original de 1972 donde el lorax intenta defender un arbol de las maquinas cortadoras pero no le queda otra opcion que agacharse y ver como continuan con la tala
Lo has notado!!! ❤
lo que más me gusta es que no adaptaron al 100% los sketchs originales de la pelicula ,y crearon una animacion totalmente diferente a lo que originalmente se iva a hacer ,no se limitaron a apenas seguirlos ,y crearon algo nuevo ,es increible
I absolutely LOVE your incorporation of the green-gloved hands of the masses. It really drives in how much influence and power he’s gained over them and how their drone/sheep-like behavior has help enabled him to get to this point! INCREDIBLE job!
no joke this is one of the best villan song of all time up their like disney classics
It is at the level of the classic Disney villain songs
I will never forgive Illumination for cutting this absolute masterpiece in exchange for "hOw bA-aH-Ah-aD cAN i bE"
I AM FRICKING BLOWN AWAY. This is the movie in my eyes 😭
The absolute shivers that went over my entire body when I saw the crowd of green gloves. It's not just him, it's all of us also. Buying things we don't really need, but want, even at the cost of nature. His company couldn't grow if people didn't buy. Yeah some people might not be aware, but some most definitely are. Amazing imagery.
They need to make another movie with this in it. It’s too real
You will just have to wait a lifetime then it may come out. Sorry but we won't get from illumination
this is actually fucking amazing! i'd pay good money to see this fully animated. the shots are immaculately constructed, with such evocative visuals. i particularly love the hands carrying onceler, alluding to how the onceler was only shown as hands in the original book, kinda making it REALLY feel like the movie onceler is just another in the line represented by the book onceler. all the cuts to different things hes describing are also really good. i love the shot where his hat covers up the whole frame, almost like its his ego itself overpowering and consuming your sight.
and honestly some of the implied differences in narrative in this compared to the film and books, and particularly the direction of making the onceler just anyone, kind of also elevate this. lorax seeming more like hes trying to save onceler kind of imply that in a wider narrative using this the writer could easily lean more into the "greed could overpower anyone you know" angle, which i feel is a rather interesting take on the same concept initially given by the lorax story. granted, though, thats just my reading. interesting tho
overall, love this to bits!
BRO
PARA SER UN PROYECTO ESCOLAR... SE LA RIFARON
TOMARON AL PERSONAJE DE MI INFANCIA, AL VILLANO QUE TANTO HE AMADO, CON BIGGERING... LO CUAL ES SUPERIOR A HOW BAD CAN I BE.... Y WOW
ESTÁ INCREÍBLE!!!!! MERECE MÁS RECONOCIMIENTO!!!
If this song was in the movie, it would be a different movie.
This animation is seriously amazing, it is incredibly how well you were able to portray this song, with the Lorax having the classic moment when the hero gets thrown out of the villain's giant complex, while explaining to the villain all their problems and resonating with the villain too much for them to be at ease. The difference is that in this, the Onceler doesn't really give up, he gives into his thoughts and doesn't stop until his plans are finished.
Really, I can't overstate how good this is.
One thing I noticed when it comes to this song: it shows, in sound alone, how different Onceler has become since the start.
At the beginning, his songs were all upbeat, chill, and fun. The music reflected his delight when he first found the trees, and were catchy when he went to sell his thneed (maybe not at first, but once the product took off EVERYONE was singing to the tune.)
Now, there's Biggering. The shift in tone has become a bit of an angsty, hard-rock sound that deep down shows that Onceler isn't satisfied despite his success (as the Lorax tried to warn him about). And it increases the amp in the latter half of the song, I'd say going metal, as we see Onceler at his worst. The happy, upbeat Onceler he had been before is gone, just like the trees.
"How Bad Can I Be?" is more of a bop, like Onceler has changed for the worst but is just denying it. That kind of works too, but I feel Biggering leaves a better impact-- the mood of his songs reflected his heart, and this song shows what's really going on inside.
4:33 bro just said "nah im just make my voice even more high pitch"
The biggering has so much potencial to make Lorax at least 60% better. I do like How bad can i be,but biggering actually reaches the issue along with original Onceler’s personality. This Is trurly amazing MV thank you! ❤️❤️
There's still time to make an extended version of The Lorax, with a few more scenes faithful to the original book and the original cartoon, and this song fully animated in the style of the original.
Illumination could at least animate this song.
Wanting limitless growth in a limited world, sums up capitalism
Even if all the environmental problems were solved and companies managed to do everything without destroying nature, the world still has a limited number of people, therefore, a limited number of clients.
This song hit WAYY too close to home for corporations. Especially the pride bit. Man, that gave ME chills and I don't even work in corporate.
El lorax en biggering: da un discurso sobre la codicia y el ogullo que es lo que hace que el onceler crezca
El lorax en cuan malo puedo ser: *procede a poner su mano en señal de que pare a una maquina cortadora*
una total tragedia