First Take debates how LeBron would fare in the MJ era
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman and Jay Williams debate how Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James would have fared playing in Michael Jordan's era.
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*ESPN releases a documentary about WWII*
*First Take:* "How do you think LeBron would have fared against Hitler and Mussolini in the 40s era?"
He would have been Captian America for the USA... LOL
Skip Bayless " I covered Hitler and Mussolini in high school and let. Me . Tell. You. MICHAEL. JEFFREY JORDAN would've won not just World War 1 , not just World War 2 but the war of 1812 AND the Vietnam war all by himself!!! He was that much of a closer and had the killer instinct ULTRA COMBO of athleticism, skills, strategy and air support that he would've ended all of those wars in a matter of minutes"
Wyndamn spot on!! 😂😂
Wyndamn comedy! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 We needed this. Thank you.
Robert French 🤣 awesome! Well said! Exactly!!!
Let me help end this idiotic debate.
Jordan would of adjusted and been great in this era. And Lebron would of adjusted and been great in that era. PERIOD.
@Kenny Gubista Put Lebron Hall of Fame players on his team like Pippen, Rodman, Kerr, Kukoc and Ron Harper, Phil Jackson in an NBA Finals to see what happens ... Jordan had a better team than Lebron.🤷🏻♂️
Tbh i think MJ wouldve fared way better in this era than LBJ in that era, the only reason is becoz is becoz MJ has that instinct that switch he + was unblockable in the era where you could basically body check people into the crowd. Dont get me wrong LBJ is a monster of player and 1 of the greatest if not the greatest of his era.
i agree
@develon Anthony Except Jordan always showed up, even if his team was trash. All LeBron does is pout and choke when it matters most, with or without a stacked team.
@@Abbit6 when it matters the most? Like Game 7 against GS?
Every legend of this game had a bad night or series, even Jordan. Before winning a title the media called him a solo act, someone unable to elevate his teammates and take them to the Promise Land. Then Scottie and Phil happens. They had to add Kevin Durant to a 73 wins team to stop LeBron from getting more rings, Jordan never beat a team with at least 3 HOFers in it.
Lebron was one of the best football players in the country AS A SOPHMORE yet people don't think he would be physical if allowed.
I know niggas who were good football players thats soft af, don't do that bro
the triangle that must be where you at then
@@sosteezy8120 Football don't make u tuff, are u that dense bro?
the triangle especially when you’re playing against children, he’s talking like he played in the nfl
Jk James they’re saying he is good with physical contact because football is more physical. Lebron being able to truck people more would help him a lot, he already kind of offensively fouls lowkey but with more freedom, it would only be good for him.
Oh wow a fresh, new topic that ESPN has never discussed before!
the truth is ...
LeBron would be LeBron in any era.
Jordan would be Jordan in any era.
Yes, and Jordan > Lebron in any era is the argument.
Jordan today would be demar derozan with better d 😂
Agreed. So bron would have 6 mins videos of flopping highlights in any era too!
@@fabriciorod23 flopping only became a thing when the refs started calling touch fouls
@@azanhadventures how were the pistons able to stop Jordan in the early years? Lebron would have thrived because people got hurt trying to foul him
Funny how a 6’9” 270 guy is seen as less equipped to handle physicality than a 6’6” 200 guy
Budugu Vegunta 6’8 250 and 6’6 216 when will you guys stop changing the weight and height records
Lebron is soft has nothing to do with size.
Budugu Vegunta theres a difference between mental strength and physical strength. LeBron woulda cried from the mental abuse that someone like Rodman woulda gave him.
You could be 7'6 375 pounds if youre soft you wouldn't make it and lebron is soft left a finals game because of cramps lol
@@15r52 that goes along with the era he plays in. he wouldn't get away with it in the 90s so he would adapt.
It's utterly ridiculous to suggest that if the Heat, Pacers, Jazz, Knicks, Sonics, Trailblazers, or Suns in the 90s (all who were legitimate championship contenders), had LeBron in his prime instead of an unknown player on their roster at the same position as LeBron, they still wouldn't have defeated the Bulls with MJ.
I believe that if Lebron grew up in mj’s era his mentality would be completely different and his mentality would match the players of that era
the smartest response I've seen yet.
Thank you 🙏🏾
His mentality would be much greater than the players in that era just like the era he plays in now.
@@Jj-hx2yg -True LBJ would dominate even more, and the players are much stronger,quicker now than then. Except for The Pistons,Lakers,Celtics and Bulls it would be one skinny stiff guarding him and single coverage.
I think we overplay the mentality of MJ. I think he would melt in today’s game. Not basketball... but with the media. He had to step away from ball after his fathers death cause the media was getting to him and couldn’t handle it. Jordan would explode today if he had to deal with a constant barrage of commentary
LEBRON JAMES AND MICHAEL JORDAN ARE PROUD SPONSORS OF FIRST TAKE
Matty Ambz facts 😂
🤣
Lol ay facts 😂😂😂
Never heard anyone put it like that. Your right
Truuuuuuuuuuuu
Lebron eats a cheeseburger
ESPN: who would eat a cheeseburger faster MJ or lebron?
EUSEBIO OZUNA ESPN: NBA players in the 90s ate their cheeseburgers faster than players today, no contest
ESPN: Jordan had Pippin and Rodman to help him eat, Jordan wins
LeBron because he's use to sucking big fat meat sticks.
Max: Easy! Lebron would have the advantage as his beard would consume the crumbs
MJ.. just cause he's just that competitive in every single thing. lol
bron is a different type of athlete. he’s literally built different. players like Lebron, Kawhi, Russ, or KD would all dominate aim any era and be MVP caliber players
>russel westrbook
>dominating anything
LOL
@@nonanimeprofilepic the biggest knock against westbrook is his 3pt shot, which was actually good before a series of injuries and role changes over the last few years. prime russ is dominating any era
@@TraeDavis623 he's not even dominating this era lmfao
@@nonanimeprofilepic MVP, 9x all star, 2x scoring champ, 2x assist leader, 9x all nba, 2x all star mvp. most triple doubles in a season and the only player EVER to average a triple double more than once, he did it 3 times in a row. that’s dominance fam, no matter how you look at it.
@@TraeDavis623 cool, how many rings does he have? 0. lol dominating
Lebron played during handcheck and averages like 21 points as an 18 year old
@@matchewgo485 yes but we're saying lebron at physically his worst(still pretty good) had experience
Matthews Hyper MJ also played his whole career in the illegal defense era. The game catered to iso play in the 90’s. So imagine having to guard one of the greatest offensive players straight up with no help defender in site. Bron would have feasted
Matthews Hyper the point being if he could average 21 at 18 with hand checking his career numbers would look pretty much identical
I love the Nick Wrong narrative. Comedy.
Anyways, what you all don't mention is his shooting percentage that year was around 42%. Not good at all. The very next year it increased but by then, the new rules were in effect and here we are.
Also, during the 80s and 90s, you did have illegal defense but most of you don't understand how it works. Under the rule, you couldn't cover an area and had to guard your man. If you decided to double or triple down on the offensive player with the ball, you could do so but you had to commit to the trap. There was no standing in between the lanes not guarding anyone. That is why zone wasn't played to an extent because zones don't guard players, it guards areas and follows the movement of the ball.
Another important thing you all miss, the zone back then was basically a useless tool for players who knew how to beat the zone. Colleges ran zones almost exclusively so most all players knew how to beat it. It is just today's players who don't understand how and you all think it is difficult to do so.
@@ericjordan6059 it's stupid to bring his fg% when he is clearly 18 and has proven to improve that ever since lmao
I'm convinced these guys wouldn't have a job without LBJ.
Udi Nelumbu facts
I believe these guys act like LeBron is I’m only current player to talk about.
Stephen would be he been official
Absolutely. Stephen a a very funny dude. "PERIOD" . Max "smh"
I think you wouldn't be here if they're not talking about lbj...fact
It’s extremely stupid to make this argument cuz they literally not taking into account what team would be around Lebron. Makes no sense
Unless he was drafted in Len Bias Celtics, the team would have been otherwise irrelevant. If he had a team built around him, it wouldn't have worked. If he went to a team already great, he had a chance.... Then again, that was his exact story in this era as well.
It dont matter he gonna keep switching teams until mike retire anyway 😂😂
Doesnt matter fa team... lebron aint winnin
@@cameronno6039 which team did he go to that was "already great"
@@somedrunk5535 lol That's Actually funny
dang Olajuwon got pushed then dropped someone with a 3 piece no drink at the end!
“Hardcore era” hahaha. John Stockton and Jeff hornacek were just striking fear in everyone.
Literally just posted that. Or imagine Bryon Russell Clyde Drexler Byron Scott Dan Marjerle guarding LeBron... He'd put up Wilt Chamberlain numbers
@@willyjakkz Don't forget Hersey Hawkins, Detlef Schermpf, Craig Ehlo and John Starks... So scary!!!
Stupid comment because Stockton was a freaking savage on the court lol. Dude was Bill Laimbeer in a tiny body
It has to be about Lebron and Jordan all the time.
Peter Solar channel it’s really kareem or Kobe or MJ but they hate Kobe
Peter Solar channel they’re the biggest Chinese stars
There's plenty of folks who are fans of players instead of the sport first.
Yeah.......Still. great abs man👌
Who u want to talk about?! 🤣
Some Facts: During The Last Dance Era 1998, Manny Pacquiao was already a boxing Champion. And now 2020 he is still an active Pound for Pound Champion.
It's that Filipino diet.
Plus, boxers don't fight every night, probably 1-2 fights a year if you're top notch
3-5 if you're up.amd coming
Fact the Goat of Boxing
@Caligula jealousy
@Caligula more like Rice.
full sender my favorite boxer
Lebron would be a beast MJ's era, especially when zone defence wasn't a thing.
When zone defense was a thing they were good centers and power forwards and mostly everybody was trying to dunk on each other LeBron is not efficient enough behind the arc zone defense with murder him ask the Spurs
cats dogs baby efficient? has one of the best percentages in the paint in history. and u act like he’s not gonna adapt to the game
cats dogs baby illegal defense was banned and restrictions on defensive alignments were removed in 2001.... Lebron never had the luxury to play in a league that catered to iso and stagnant offense.
He would litteraly be eaten alive by the bad boy pistons
@@catsdogsbaby8318 Lebron a better three pt shooter than mike ridiculous take😂
Lebron is 6'9 and 250 but would suffer from the "physicality" lololol
not because of his size, but his free throw shooting. On the other hand if he came in in the mid 80s with Jordan, he might not have the same durable career as he has had in this era.
He flops now when he gets poked or breathed on. Imagine if he got close lined by Charles Oakley, Mahorn, Barkley and the 90s era guys??? It’s looks easy for him now because no one can touch him. And if he did get hammered in the lane in Jordan’s era, he would go to the feee throw line and not do well. And many careers were cut short due to injury and getting hammered all their careers. I put LeBron on Mount Rushmore too but he just ain’t Jordan.
Not cause of his size, cause of his attitude.
He lost a finals to a whiteboard dude.
He's a temper tantrum.
The reason why this question is meaningless is because lebron woulda crafted his game to the time period he was in, he woulda maybe developed different aspects of his game because the paint was a lot different in the 80/90’s, jordan the same thing if he played now he might play different but still be great I think jordan is the goat but the sad truth is we will never know who is really better is all opinion and preference
this is facts right here
Thank you !!!
Steven Martinez facts
Jordan has Kawhi’s defense and Harden’s offense despite the 3point shooting . Literally his only flaw was 3point. He’d dominate if he played today and it’d be pretty interesting because he isn’t a 3point shooter yet he’s so dominant at everything else on both ends. LAbron is right up there with him but just doesn’t play as intense unless he’s in a championship series
Absolutely true.
Lebron is like a dude that got pulled out of the 80s and thrown into the millennium where his mentality got watered down to suit this era lol
Put him in the 80s 90s and his mindset, taking those hits and learning the hard way... idk what kind of monster he would've been!
I think Jimmy Butler would have fit into that era perfectly
Andrew Perez butler is a wanna be tough guy he’s soft
Fax
Yea Jimmy, Westbrook, and Pat Bev are cut from the same cloth in regards to how they take competition
Both of these cats are too small. Listen, I’m 43 years old and I grew up in that era. There is a reason Space Jams called those cats The MonStars.
@@cocobrowndude Jimmy Butler and Lebron are too small?? What?
love how stehpen cuts the video the second he starts losing the argument
How did he lose? He won every single one of them 😂
Anytime a guest analyst agrees with Max he has a lil smirk on his face 😂🤣
This same debate for the 80 millionth time. 🤦🏾♂️
And yet you still watch and comment🤦🏿♂️
Deshun Stokelin it’s the only sports we got :(
Deshun Stokelin and you acting like that took any actual effort 🤦🏾♂️
Jiggy Thanos did you look at efficiency, defense, games won? Oh ok
They are just there so they don't get fined. Gotta cash that check.
“I don’t care what team he’s on?!????”
Ur telling me LeBron on the :
- Bad Boy Pistons
- Rockets with Hakeem
- Jazz with Malone/Stockton
- Sonics with Payton/Kemp
- Suns with Barkley/ Dumars
- Magic with Shaq/Penny
Wouldn’t win???! GTFOOOO
LeFlop played with top players in this watered down league and still lost so why would we think any different. Remember JJ Barea and Jason Taylor.
Leborn on the rockets..................is a wrap!! Ain't going be no Bull Dynasty. Sheeeeit!! The dream and the King!! Gurl Please.
@@pengli9527 league today is way better than the 90s. Athletes only get faster and stronger as time goes on.
Thank You!!🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
agree
Enough is ENOUGH. I have had it with these mfkn topics on this mfkn SHOW. Everybody strap in we are about to open some fn windows
Wouldn’t make it in Jordan era he’s already playing in the softest era and he still had the nerve to complain to the league about not getting fouls call against the nuggets!!
cuz he had to adjust to this soft era but if he grew up when MJ did and played with him there's no way he wouldn't dominate...
@@eshanthpadmonkar3464 ... Nope. You are saying this like he would have done it when he has never proven so. Stop making up scenarios for your guy.
@@ericjordan6059 bro if your 6'9 270 with that atletism ur gonna be good no matter what era..
@@eshanthpadmonkar3464 ...Now you done fucked up. Athleticism does not help you in a more physical era. It is skillset. When you have power forwards of comparable size and strength and real centers, you have to rely on your skillset. Lebron needs work on a lot of things and he'll never work on them because, in this era, he doesn't need them.
The game is completely different and if you've never played in that manner, you wouldn't know how it works from just watching.
@@ericjordan6059 LMAO, lebrons only weakness is a free throw line...easy to defend when all you have to do is hand check.
First Take : We don't have any content idea, let's have Lebron and Jordan who is the goat topic again for 99 million times.
Me : smh
Honestly it's still a entertaining topic to discuss
Just don't watch it
Watch something else then
U r crying again nobody cares
Lol but u clicked on the video still lol so thats all they care about fr
When you grow up in that era, physicality comes with it. Ignorant thinking lebron wouldnt last. Statistic geeks on these pannels
Lebron is wayyy more physical that MJ tho, so..
Seriously, Lebron play in the hand-checking era for 1 season, average 21 ,6 and 5 and how is that not good?
Imagine LeBron being able to hand-check and be more physical.
Lebron wouLd be crying like a baby after every game! MOOOOMMMMMYYYYYY! Lol lol lol lol lol
Cool to say but you can’t talk about physicality he don’t have. you have to focus and what they have.
I agree with the DWade being crazy in the older eras Dwade a dawg
Agreed. I think his game transfers better than almost any modern player because he was tenacious
From how i look at it, every player today will do fine physicality wise since you can always hit the gym to buff yourself up. Mentality, Mindset and strong will is definitely the most important part in that era.
This Pandemic can't end soon enough. This is Nuts !
Mike G they arguing over time travel basically
Thank you!
Who would win lebron or prime Jesus in 29 A.D
32 32 basically
@tyrone Jesus’s jumper pretty fire, so imma give it to him
Funny how this is even a question.
"Could a 6'9, 260 lb, uber athletic, supremely fast, very strong man dominate in the MJ era?"
Duh
Imagine LeBron on those late 90s Miami Heat teams
A big three of LeBron James, Tim Hardaway, and Alonzo Mourning coached by Pat Riley
They could give the Jordan Bulls a legit run for their money
Agreed
They said how would he fare not dominate
Lmfao, they just wanna hate on Bron
have you ever heard of Derrick Coleman? 6'10" power forward for Nets who was highly touted in high school and was supposed to "dominate" in NBA. he was soft. hardly did anything
how about Randy White? 6'8" 240 lbs power forward for Dallas Mavericks. he was highly touted in high school and was supposed to "dominate" in NBA. he was supposed to be "the next Karl Malone". soft. was a bust
have you heard of LeBron James? 6'8" small forward for Cavs. he was highly touted in high school and was supposed to "dominate" in the NBA. he is super soft. his first game was against the Detroit Pistons Bad Boys. he held a press conference the next day called "The Decision" . after one day in the hard nosed basketball of 90s, LeBron Decided he would retire from basketball and instead play professional football for the Cleveland Browns
when asked why LeBrown stated, " i have to watch out for myself and protect myself for my family. i kept whining to the refs that the Bad Boys were touching me but the ref wouldnt do anything. i clearly FLOPPED on every play but got no calls. i cannot believe players nowadays are allowed to lay a finger on another player, thats insane!! every time i looked at Bill Laimbeers face i saw a serial killer!! im heading out to somewhere safe, at least football is less rough than basketball and youre allowed to wear padding and helmets to protect yourself! in basketball if they punch you it REALLY HURTS! basketball is barbaric and i saw my life flash before my eyes fifteen times during the game, i almost had a heart attack every time a defender came at me with brass knuckles! that us why i will join the Browns and win not one, not two, not three...."
FACTS
this all they talked about during quarantine 😭
Hakeem was a prime beast in those two years. He beat prime Robinson, Barkley, Ewing, Shaq, etc. when they had loaded teams. Max shouldn’t assume LeBron easily win one of those two years against Olajuwon when Jordan was off.
For one season who would I take, a prime Olajuwon or a prime LeBron? Easy. Olajuwon.
100.0%
if i was to pick who is better then easy lebron all day
These questions are insane. How is a 6’8 270 pound freight train who can do everything well not going to dominate?
Young Reela exactly. He’s the body of Ewing with a jumper, handle and way more athletic
passing ability of Magic Johnson
size and bulk of Karl Malone
athleticism of Dominique Wilkins
Old people don't understand.
@@2for99cents so young people cant understands lebron flooping? under his beastly body?
NO Way LEBUM JAMES could've ever won a ring or even been a allstar in the eastern conference in the 90's..He would've been soft😂🤣😂
YOU ASSUME LEBRON'S MENTALITY WOULD BE THE SAME IN THOSE TIME FRAMES.
Right, smh these ppl especially Jay he's delusional Lameron would get his a*s chewed out by those dudes in MJ era, he's too soft and always looking for hand outs from the refs 🤦🏾♀️
Sandra Ruth lmfao dam it’s crazy how we all think differently. Imo a 250+ pound 6’9 in a tougher era would be far more dominant than what he is now. Y’all say he’d get pushed around but nah he’s never had the chance to bully people on defense. Jordan is the GOAT. BUT you can possibly say you out Lebron in that era and he isn’t along with MJ considered the mvp. MJ has never faced anyone like Bron. If MJ was soaring through these dudes who could barely dribble let alone shoot. What do y’all think Bron would’ve done. Y’all need to end this narrative that 80s and 90s were soo physical. They were def more physical than today but y’all can’t act like it was a changer. Bron imo would easily average 30 and 10. Give this man some credit. I know he’s chocked but he’s also been all time great. Y’all just choose to pick his worst moments and highlight those. Na fam Jay is right Bron would be as dominant if not more. The athletes back than overall were nothing compared to now. Don’t get me wrong there were all time greats as well but overall the league is better now.
@@Banks23 LeBron would struggle because in Jordan's era there were deterrents at the rim like centers and power forwards. LeBron gets most of his points from 10 feet in and the centers and power forwards in that era weren't punks. LeBron would have to develop a mid range and off the ball game to have longevity in that era. Also if he played in that era he most likely would have played power forward.
Percy Bedford struggle? You don’t what your talking about. Illegal defense would’ve gave lebron a highway to the rim. You act like lebron never face big an before. Spurs, Celtics, pistons, and the pacers. And you said the league is better now.
G Big in the 80s= elbow to the head for a foul, punching for a foul there wasn’t really any technical fouls back then matter of fact it was more like hockey you see more brawls in the nba in the 80s then you did in NHL, MLB.
Let's just say he cries now, he would've cried against Detroit, Bulls, and the Knicks.
LeBron would still find a way to flop to the nosebleed section.
Magic never stopped crying
Players cried for calls back in the day. Lebron has the mentality to destroy the 90s and he has the physical asset to destroy the 90s. They flop now cause they know they’ll get the call. Blame the refs not the players.
@@kristiandotson998 wow. The refs are flopping huh. What a narrative. Blame the refs
The last dance was to Elvate Michael Jordan Pippen quote
You guys are literally gonna do this the entire documentary.
Because they know LBJ the G. O. A. T.
Y’all realize that if Lebron could play as aggressive as he wanted he would dominate in any era. Lebron has to play a certain way because the way the league is now. Does everyone not realize how fast and athletic he is at his height and weight???
And he benifits from being in this era just as much if not more than anyone else. People talk about harden flopping because they don't like him and his play style, but since they like guys like luka, giannis, and definitely lebron, they don't talk about them
Cant flop back then!
DuttRage he soft af and flops a lot too. Would love to see how he gets beaten up by the bad boys and he’ll be on the floor crying and wanting to be on the bench
Lebron flops because he's smart enough to use the game to his advantages and he wouldve taken advantage of MJs era to.
Then why does he constantly cry even in this SOFT ERA....
D Wade would thrive in the 90s
More than his old Heat teammate imo.
Not saying he'd be better than Lebron, no. I'm saying I think his game would have transferred more effectively than Lebron's.
LBJ being the better player would maybe be better but I think D-Wade's GAME transfers more 1:1 than Bron's
One man's opinion
What a unique idea for a topic!!!!
Smh, the amount of disrespect Lebron James gets is just... crazy man. Just crazy.
people forget that Jordan didn't win right away especially when he came back from baseball. They give Lebron so much flack for trying to find better teammates when Jordan admits there are no chips without Pippen.
@@bunkyfunk76 The mentality of players in the previous eras is different than now. Star players in their primes rarely ever bounced around from team to team. Jordan stuck it out in Chicago with some crappy teams. Dominique, Ewing, Isaiah, Miller, Malone, Robinson, Hakeem, Iverson....I could go on. Lebron on the other hand at the peak of his powers dipped to join his friends in Miami and moved around a couple more times. He'll always catch flack for that and deservedly so.
gdiggedy9 Bulls management got the right pieces around MJ. I don’t think LeBron going to the heat was a bad thing. He took control over his career. Everybody doesn’t have to act/move like MJ.
gdiggedy9 why should one of the goats be stuck on a team that didn’t put pieces around him for nearly a decade?
@@gdiggedy9 An by the way he had to go to Miami to team with Dwyane Wade (who by the way already had a championship) & Chris Bosh to win his first championship that's when he found out what it takes to win a title
He took bums to the finals at 22 tf
Go look up the box score of every game of that finals before you say they are bums just because of their names. Lebron had help that series he just couldn’t get it done
@@tyrelllawless5117 no tf he didn't bruh. No all stars compared to manu, Tim n Tony foh
RobTheGreat '97 it’s ok fanboy I see you still looking at the names instead of going to look at the box score of every game to see your goat had help every single game from multiple players but couldn’t get it done.
I wouldn't say they were bums, but that Cleveland team definitely wasn't on the same level as that Spurs team. Bron only averaged 22 a game for that series too. When he had Wade and Bosh in Miami, he lost to the freaking Mavericks, and only avg 17 pts a game. Again, he would've never beaten MJ in any finals, and is nowhere near the 🐐
Those bums richer than u
did jay williams just write something on his hand?
I honestly don’t know why I even watch these anymore.
*ESPN: We're running out of topic. We need a new one*
*producers: Let's talk about MJ and LBJ!*
*me:💀*
Yeah man they running this into the ground
It’s a waste of talk! It’s no comparison, people must have forgotten about Duncan, Kobe, AI, MAGIC, BIRD, SHAQ, WILT, O FROM THE ROCKETS PIPPEN, I THOMAS.
50 years later...
who's the GOAT: MJ or ZION?! 😶
If LBJ was added to the Pistons your telling me his presence doesn't add a game in the series minimum?
Or two
His presence might’ve caused a sweep if we’re being honest
How bout the Knicks
Jordan Tucker you’re not being honest
Pistons, Knicks, Seattle, Utah, Blazers, Suns, Pacers. He would've won a couple of SHIPS
He would do well, a Shawn Kemp type of player.
LeBron's handles are a bit lacking and his ability to play at the perimeter and penetrate would decline a bit and his assist would probably drop too unless he committed to a role like Magic, but then he'd just play the wing or post in the era of defense and still be a superstar probably pulling down more boards and points/game. He would definitely adapt and play a bit differently.
his handles are perfectly fine watch his highlights hes not as good at using his handles not showing handles
Why aren’t there any reputable players from the 90s on the panel providing an opinion.
because there are none! Besides Centers, nobody from the 90s is worth listening to because they had no chance.
@@kbiino7938 Shows how much you know about the 90s
Did anyone see the 2017 NBA Finals? If so get this through yer LeBron hating cement heads. LBJ averaged 34 points a game 12 boards and 10 assists Superhuman numbers against Green,Durant, and Iguodala in their prime. double and triple teamed . NJ and Kobe could never ever do this. Only Lebron!
Vern Pascal that wasn’t IGGY in his prime
@@vernpascal1531 he got swept LOL
*ESPN: Talks about dinosaurs*
*First take: Who's more dominant than the asteroid, Lebron or MJ?*
Humble Dallas Fan 😂😂😂😂
Humble Dallas Fan 😂😂😂😂
😂 LMAO
3:40 made him think about that one 😂
I would like to see how lebron would be with his own version of the "Jordan" rule.
😢 😢 Then quit
Lebron James is so great he is single handily keeping the lights at espn on,
symbiote91 no cap
Him and Jordan
Jordan and Kobe and the nfl
You mean Jordan? A guy that retire two decades ago, and he's still being talked about like he's playing.
Todays Lebron James is not mentally tuff enough to have played in that time, it doesn't matter because he 6ft8 260,he would have gotten punished,and he would have backed down,he wouldn't be the player he is today,he wouldn't be 4time mvp,probably championship less,so he fortunate to be playing in this time with stacked teams so he can win.
He would have a field day since illegal defence was a thing
Yianni Lolos Illegal defense didnt stop guys from hitting you with an elbow
@@christiansoldier77 if anybody tried hitting LeBron with an elbow it would be like when you go threw a turnstile to go into the arena, also don't act like people threw elbows, in all of jordans highlights ive never seen anyone elbow him
Bruh people don't understand the illegal defense rule and Lebron getting one on one matches almost exclusively??? Oh lord he'd literally feast on anyone and EVERYONE.
Facts that's why MJ scored as much all u had to do was iso and beat one man
Luecas Lucien first of all he was great at beating the double team before they even got there second of all there was often 2 or even 3 players waiting for him at the rim and he was able to maneuver around them time and time again
One thing I Know for sure = He wouldn't have just been running over folks and getting away with it like he does against these young kids of today !
Why would you ask people that have never played in the nba this type of question?
J will act like he smarter than everyone....
Ik its so annoying
Facts but he does have more experience than any of these dudes so
Duke clout be getting to some athletes’ heads (Kyrie, J Will) smh 🤦🏽♂️
@@edp-gb6yz experience in being dumb? Yes ofcourse.
Exactly. Dude acts as if he's the know it all and as if he's opinion is the only obvious answer.
90's NBA was like the WWF Attitude era.
Michael Jordan was Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Best anology I've seen
Agreed
But technically, Stone Cold was hot for 2 years before the Rock took completely over. Jordan is more like Hogan because of his years of dominance...
@@brandoni241 Stone Cold Was also one of the most technical wreslers ever. Him and Bret Hart was like Bird Vs Mike. The Rock never surpassed Steve Austin in popularity remember at WM 17 half the the Stadium was for the Austin the other half was for The Rock. The Rock was is like Magic. Lebron is John Cena lol.
and lebron would be nikki bella
1:05 literally the best way to end this MJ V. Lebron in different eras debates 💯🏀🤷🏽♂️
Have you heard of the guy Patrick Beverly? Let him say something for LeBron physicality😂😂
I’m only watching this cuz I needed sum to watch while I ate
Den Swagger deadass doin the same😂
Lol ok thanks for telling us
So facts !! Me right now 😂😂😂
Same 😂
I'm 1:38 in and Stephen A said Irving would've had a stronger mentality than bron they wildin already
lebron mentality is soft
Ruler of Worlds softer than kyrie😭?
Kyrie did hit the game winner that saved them in 2016.
Secondly, peoe expect Lebron to be everything to a team and that he needed NOTHING else to win a ring. The fact that he could PULL a team with nothing to the FINALS should mean EVERYTHING. Once there, you MUST have a better balanced team. PERIOD. The dude has done more with less than just about any other superstar, besides Isaiah Thomas and even HE had a really well balanced team. The only caveat was the Heat v. Mavericks series. He should have done MUCH better.
Kyrie is a baller he would thrive because media wasn't a thing back then and he wouldn't have to answer like a thousand questions daily and be dissected and scrutinized for everything he says.. so basically he'd be Cleveland Kyrie when he had LeBron and could just sit back and let him do all the talking
90s was dominated by big men... lebron just would of been a all star
Thank you Stephen a I like that last statement you saying
Bruh what does Lebron not being maniacal have to do with him not being able to win championships then??? Magic? Bird? Did they not win chips? What a garbage take Stephen A
They didn't when Jordan was in his prime.
Bank of Werner they were old and wore down by then that’s why Jordan eventually got “over the hump”
Bank of Werner because they were old and washed. Smh
@@hilarysackor2961 thank you!
@@bankofwerner4206 when did Jordan go into his prime?
Stop acting like the Pistons didn't give MJ the business.
Facts Jordan even said it, they whooped him so he had to get bigger and it’s funny how Jordan and Kobe use to work the one guy that gave them the most problems they drafted them to there team... Rodman meta world peAce Harper list goes on but Bron battles he didn’t go get curry Klay
They can't they act like MJ only played 6 years in the league because if they don't they'll see how much he failed when the cards weren't stacked in his favor lol.
elijah odom the Pistons did whoop Jordan and the bulls. But that’s what makes that story great, they tried and tried stayed resilient and got it done. The MOMENT they got to the top, NOBODY knocked them off the mountain (when Jordan played a full season) Lebron had the same similar situation..The Boston Celtics were his roadblock, so instead of sticking it through he left to Miami to team up against Boston. That’s not to say he was wrong but Mike and Lebron had the same situation. Detroit had Mikes number, Mike stayed with it and eventually beat them. Celtics had Lebrons number, Lebron teamed up with people he knew could beat them with. Neither is wrong but they went through similar road blocks.
@@bronisthegoat8915 And who beat him in those years? Oh yeah, the stacked Pistons and Celtics... I guess you forgot about that part. MJ and a bunch of nobodies vs McHale, Bird, DJ, Parrish and Dumars, Thomas, Lambeer, Rodman.
@@bronisthegoat8915 yeah and what did lebron do in the face of multiple failures huh? Joined a superteam but still could not achieve as much of a greatness as jordan, he joined a top organization with a winners mentality with pat riley in the helm and erik spoelstra which is what most people who know basketball as a greatly underrated coach, joined with dwyane wade and chris bosh and a heck of a supporting cast. Unlike lebron, jordan pushed his teammates, I hate it when people say "lebron can not achieve what mj did because he does not have help" heck in heat he had help in cleveland the organization was his slave. Watch documentaries how mj's teammate describe him, he always pushes his teammates heck even scottie believes his development would not be as fast if jordan did not push him to be better every single training day, he made do with what he had and always willed them on
It all comes down to adapting. Could these players today adapt to that style of play then? It doesn’t matter size or talent, it boils down to their mentality period.
Jay Williams sometimes seems like he didn’t attend any classes at duke lol
Larry Bird could dominate but Lebron couldn’t? GTFOH
Direct Yo Feetza Larry bird shot near 40% from 3 and near 40% from the line. Lebron is a terrible shooter outside of 8 feet and that’s backed by all analytics. Btw, Bird was in the 80’s not the 90’s lol
@@ThanosdidtherighthingLebron's game is super efficient...
@@Thanosdidtherighthing what lebron once shoot 40% from 3. And bird attempted less 3 thats why his % is higher
you forgetting that Larry Bird had actual shooting ability and wasn't afraid to take the shot......
disrespecting Bird
Every time they talk about Lebron they bring up MJ that’s how you know his top two and his not two
Kobe is better than lebron, the media brings up lebron because of recency bias.
DNC 8 kobe is not better than lebron don’t just start being dramatic because kobe died. Lebrons top 3. Kobe’s maybe top 6
Donovan Miller big facts I feel like the only person on lebrons level is mj. Not saying he’s better but they are the only people in the conversation
@@user-ou5pm6gn9j kobe had shaq, all 3 years shaq was the best player on the team lmao. give lebron shaq hes winning 5-6 back to back (prime shaq, not old and fat asf shaq)
DNC 8 You’re just saying that cuz he died...Kobe has never been in discussion of being better that Bron...
Stephan A brings up a good point, he would go to the FT line more often and with his % on FT its like ggs for his team lol and if he played both ends of the basket consistantly then maybe...
Remember like the old era rules would’ve applied to lebron also. Imagine him being aloud to put the hurt on
Imagine LeBron on those late 90s Miami Heat teams
A big three of LeBron James, Tim Hardaway, and Alonzo Mourning coached by Pat Riley
They could give the Jordan Bulls a legit run for their money
thelegendsqb1 they’d beat them in 1998
MEH
You drop a prime LeBron on that team its over. Scottie is a great defender no doubt but he ain't ever played against someone as big, fast, athletic and strong as prime Bron. Imagine a more athletic and faster Karl Malone that's what Lebron would've looked like back then 😂
@@Deveaux5 You drop a big, fast, athletic and strong player like prime LeBron on the Miami Heat with Wade and Bosh and it's over too.....wait...hold up
Prime lebron with shaq and penny. And a shooters dennis scott, nick anderson and darrel armstrong. And a defender horace grant.
So Stephen a said jordon could adapt and play in this era but LeBron couldn’t adapt in Jordan era get out here bruh bron would’ve dominated
Begreat 7 Lebron dominated his conference; Jordan dominated the league.
Begreat 7 he didn’t dominate Jason terry 🤣
Diestro Terrero in order to learn how to win you have to loose
Diego Velazquez just like LeBron and the end of the day they both needed help
Diestro Terrero lebron baptized jason terry lmaoooo what are you talking about?
The dumbest thing I heard was he'd average less points in an era where he can bowl you over
Ikr🤦♂️
They already discussed this like 1000 times…
He would’ve had several chips. I don’t care what these fools saying.
@trufiend138 i think he meant potato chips
He barely had several chips today and two of them he got from teammates clutching it for him lmao. The other was against an okc team that was not experienced resulting in a blow out series
Nah there’s a Jordan
@@Lilyakiimo teammates clutching it for him? Ray Allen's game tying shot was one of 9 points he scored that game. Ppl overrate his role in that game. Miami was down 10 going into the 4th and Lebron brought them back and scored 15 in the 4th, not to mention a clutch three when they were down 5 points with 40 seconds left. Keep in mind, Allen's shot wasn't even a game winner. It just extended it to overtime. Ray Allen scored 9 that game. Lebron had a 32 point triple double with 15 in the 4th. Ray Allen's shot is worthless without Lebron's performance. Let's not forget Steve Kerr's game winner with Jordan. I guess steve kerr saved Jordan's legacy too right? Since we wanna play double standards. I guess Jordan's performance in that game doesn't matter since Steve Kerr hit the clutch shot right? Talking as if playoff series are won on a couple clutch shots and not a minimum of four 48 minute games. Every point counts, not just the last one. Neither point matters more than the other, cus it's the sum of points that wins the game. Without Bron, there is no clutch shot, because they wouldn't have even came back in the 4th. Ray Allen's shot would've been in garbage time.
It depends purely on what team he goes to and who the bulls have. One thing about the bulls is that Jordan and Pippen were massively underpaid for most of their careers. LeBron would have to take a pay cut to keep a team that can beat them
Lebron in the Jordan era would have joined Jordan 😂😂😂😂
Not even close scottie pippen and kobe is better than over rated lebron
@@geneyumang9554 I think he meant he would've joined Jordan on the Bulls
he’ll cry if Jordan toughens him up during practice
Marlo Standfield lmaoooo frrr
Marlo Standfield yeah. To be able to win. You are so right! 🤣🤣🤣
You're telling me that a guy who's 6"9 280 who dominates even in this era, wouldn't dominate in an era where he can be more aggressive and physical. Moreover, you're saying a 6"6 200 guy would "survive" more than the 6"9 280 guy. And don't say "but he flops and isn't tough" - if the game is more physical and tough, the players are more physical and tough.
He would be dominant after getting an elbow smash to the face and head by the likes of a 275 pounds Karl Malone with very sharp elbows hed still be dominant right??
Grant, Pippen, Kukoc were 20+ PT PLAYERS ON OTHER TEAMS during the 90s!!!!! The Bulls were LOADED in their 90s runs... and honestly playing against Lebron is like playing against a coach/gm who's also a world class player, Jordan was the single best player you could compete against, but that must have made playing/guarding them soooooo different... these cats would have been great in any era.
You're right
Do ppl fail to realize that there are thousands, liiterally thousands of instances where lebron has driven down the lane full speed and big dudes step out of his way to save themselves
Lebron on those Knicks teams or on the Detroit pistons would have stopped jordan a couple more times
It's the same people who only watch defensive highlights of the 80s and 90s and forgot the archaic defensive schemes of that era.
prime_gamer 623 people forget once this last dance docu series is over in May people minds won’t be clouded anymore lol
Edward Hirland oh please. LeBron is a mental midget. Jordan would have broken him IN HALF psychologically.
That’s exactly the point... no “big men” since Shaq got old. They’re big in size but not in mentality.
The error here is placing 2000’s LeBron into that error; u must imagine LeBron being RAISED in that era, his physicality would’ve been much different. Imagine LBJ handchecking on D, for example. Many many facets of his game would’ve been more fierce. MJ would be more finesseful had he been brought up today and played in this era.
Wavy Jazzy Banks lebron played his whole rookie year at 18 right outta HS with hand checking and did just fine idk how they think the guy who’s 2 inches shorter and like 80lbs lighter is more built for a tough streetball environment
@@jangofett6634 well dont assume that the same thing will happen, different era, different training different diet a lot of differences. the thing is, if you go to the past, you should consider down grading the training and diet too. which will result to a weaker version of lebron. and also, he might not be going to the nba straight out of HS.
Lebron is mentally weak.
J K he didn’t do fine he shot 41% for 20ppg stop it lol smh
Yeah but everybody is not saying it like that of course if lebron grew up in that era he would've been tougher but were talking about him being from this era and going back to that era and place him there, if he crys now imagine how he would've been if you place him in that era.
Lebron looking like 50 in that thumbnail 🤣🤣🤣
If I hear espn talk about LeBron or micheal Jordan one more time I'm gonna go crazy
Ability to lead?!?! The dude literally carried the CAVS to the finals with his second best player being Matthew Dellavadova and in 2018 with Kevin Love. Like cmon. And then he hit the Warriors which we all know he had no possible chance to win. Especially with JR on that Henny again. The dude is a leader. And makes other players better. Not debating the goat status but he is a leader. Stop these nonsense debates and bring sports back.
Yeah "carrying" the team against the weakest conference in history of NBA is amazing. When he then hit a real team in the finals he got smacked. You switch the cavs with the warriors and Lebron is not making the finals, and you know that.
petty G You Switch with Lebron with other player they wouldn’t be able to run through the player like that. So stfu and stop taking away what he did
petty G You do realize golden state had 5 all stars and like 3 hall of famers. Lebron had to carry a team with literally nobody through the East. Which isn’t easy cause when MJ had no help he got out in the 1st round. And I’m not even debating the GOAT status. It’s just facts.
correct
@@kyskid59 yeah but u seem to forget the celtics MJ faced in the 1st round were as strong as the warriors that Lebron faced in the final. Just cuz Lebron got through weak teams to get to them doesnt make it greater. Mj scored 49 and 63 and they STILL lost. Think about that for a moment.
Lebron would have actually been better in the 80s and 90s. He's a physical freak. He's build to take punishment. The man is the only superstar to have multiple championships without having a hall of fame coach. He would have easily dominated a era that wasn't dependent on the three point shot..
He's not physical now. Draymond is more physical then Lebron is. Because he runs people over and everyone now flops. They flop back then as well but they are willing to hit you back. How many ppl in the league now would hit back
He might've had a higher peak. But not played as many seasons in top form like now. His body would've broke down.
Lemar Jacobs
He’s also one of the superstars who had a superteam or at least two all stars next to him to win a championship. Don’t need a HoF coach when you got 3 all stars on a team.
He built like Karl Malone
news flash 👈 post the same 💩😂
Looking physical and being physical is 2 different things Jay!!!
It's called rules... Different rules different play style... Players adapt to the rules given to them.
I can’t argue because both of them are way, way, way better than me.
Stephen “Jay Williams was a dog at Duke” Smith
but a bust in the pros
payton moran got hurt not nearly the same thing
Chosen one exactly the same thing with Greg oden
He didn’t get hurt. He got into a wicked accident. That’s different. He wasn’t injury prone like Oden.
He was a real mutt on that motorcycle too...
“When Jordan has a crew” as if his crew was just your average crew smh
It’s also a “no true Scotsman” argument.
ie “what about all those times he lost?”
“Well then he didn’t have a crew.”
Right but Lebron had way better than average crews and lost lol
Lebron went to many teams that’s why he had better tm8s on different team your acting like he had it on the same team
More than 1/3 of the bulls scoring came from MJ. Not a single of his teammate ever averaged more than 22 ppg when he was playing for the bulls.
adrian castillo cause he ball
Hogged
Lebron James, with kemp and Payton? Lebron with Malone and Stockton? Definitely winning those finals.
Lebron with wade and Bosh lose vs Dirk.
Lebron is too much of an egomaniac to ever play in Utah so that wouldn’t have happened
Lebron would average 60 ppg if he played against the plumbers that MJ played
I never thought I'd say this but I miss the days when First Take was mainly the Tim Tebow show instead of the Michael Jordan vs LeBron show.
The show isnt the same since skip bayless left
I miss Cold Pizza
You don't miss it its just everything seems better in hindsight
That tim Teblow garbage was pathetic. I don't miss it at all. As much as I am tired of this MJ v LeBron talk I'd rather have that than to talk about a clown like Teblow that couldn't play.
“They act like two legends cannot coexist” - J Cole
Fishscale it’s not about they can’t exist, it’s just that Jordan WILL beat LeBron back then. Simple
Everyone is different just stop it they both achieved a goal of making it to the NBA.
Bron is better and would dominate Jordan... Pippen and the squad made the Bulls winners
@@MT-eo5vy every one deep down knows that but lets enjoy them both
@@ezzd4255 Goes 1-9 in the 2nd half vs Pistons in Game 7 of the 2006 ECSF.
- Saved by Bobbie Gibson in Game 7 of the 2007 ECF against the Pistons without Ben Wallace. LeFraud went 3-11 the whole game while Boobie Gibson scored 19 points to close out the series.
- Put up 22 PPG on 34% in the 2007 finals to get swept after each game was decided by single digits.
- Goes 8-20 FG in Game 6 of the 2009 ECF against Orlando; Outplayed by Delonte West and Hedo Turkoglu.
- In the 2010 ECSF, LeFraud loses three straight to the Celtics after being up 2-1. He averaged 21 PPG on 34% FG with 6.3 turnovers a game during that losing stretch to run to D Wade in Miami.
- Before joining Wade in Miami, LeFraud was 0-4 in a playoff series against teams who had an All-NBA player that year (Wallace/Billups 2006, Duncan 2007, KG 2008, Dwight 2009)
- Promised Miami 8 rings only to get outscored by Jason Terry in the 2011 Finals while playing more minutes, not to mention he scored 8 points in a Finals game.
- Taken to 7 Games by Ray Allen, KG, and Paul Pierce in their mid 30s in the 2012 ECF despite having the better overrall superteam.
- Outscored by Wade in the 4th quarters of the 2012 Finals (Only series he dominated against legit competition was due to Wade closing out the games).
- Taken to 7 games by 22 year old Paul George and Roy Hibbert in the 2013 ECF despite having a superteam.
- Outscored by Danny Green in the first three games of the 2013 Finals; Saved by Ray Allen in Game 6.
- Suffered the biggest series blowout in NBA Finals history in the 2014 Finals, padded his stats when the Spurs were up 15 for Games 1, 3-5 of the Series by scoring 51/141 of his points in blowout situations.
- LeFraud goes scoreless in OT in Game 1 of the 2015 Finals, outplayed by Mozgov in Game 4 with a chance to go up 3-1 at HOME, and recorded 118 misses (most since 1967) during the series. Averaged 36 PPG on an inefficient 35% shooting.
- LeFraud suspeneds Draymond in Game 5 on a brink of elimination, he goes for 41 points in that game and 41 points in Game 6 (Despite Draymond was avoiding another tech to get suspended). In Game 7 where Draymond can go all out on defending LeFraud, he goes 9-24 and 0-4 in the final four minutes of the 4th quarter until Kyrie saves his legacy.
- LeFraud dissapears in the 2nd half of the 2017 Finals and was outplayed by KD in the 4th quarters of that series.
- LeFraud’s “greatest playoff run” consisted of Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart, and Oladipo taking him to 7 games and scoring 0 points in OT against the Warriors in Game 1 after exploding for 51 points.
- LeFraud activates “playoff mode” in the west only to go 3-12 for the rest of the season and recruit Anthony Davis after missing the playoffs
Jordan scored 50 first game of the season,scored 63 in a playoff game he has 5 60 point games against a good celtics team
We will never find out
The guy in the middle seems smart