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Forza VS GT7 | In-depth | Mercedes-Benz Evo II | Customize, Damage, Burnouts, Details, Features, VR

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  • Опубліковано 4 лис 2023
  • DAMAGE | PHOTOMODE | ALL VIEWS | FEATURES | BURNOUT | VR | DETAILS | GAMEPLAY | CUSTOMIZATION | Virtual Reality!
    "This comparison focuses on the car models."
    Dive into an honest, bias-free gameplay comparison between GT and Forza. While addressing some misconceptions about GT, I share my perspective: Forza only has a better feeling chase cam, but for everything else, GT is superior, in my opinion. GT stands out as a love letter to car enthusiasts, crafted with passion for automotive fans.
    This is a head-to-head battle between Forza Motorsport and Gran Turismo 7, featuring the legendary Mercedes-Benz Evolution II. This in-depth comparison highlights customization options, damage models, and the adrenaline of executing perfect burnouts. Experience the immersive world of virtual racing with stunning 4K visuals in VR. Whether you're a die-hard Forza fan or a GT7 enthusiast, this video is a must-watch to see how your favorite racing game stacks up in delivering the ultimate driving experience
    As a hardcore car gamer, I'm disappointed with FORZA, and I will be releasing a video explaining why I feel this way!
    I take a playful jab at the annoying fanboys, just for fun. I'm aware that fanboys exist on both sides, but it's particularly Forza fanatics spreading falsehoods about Gran Turismo. It's a pet peeve of mine in the gaming community, any fanboys, I just like to counter them. Like I said, we see fanboys from both sides, but there seems to be a trend of Forza fans undervaluing Gran Turismo. I wanted to address this issue. Moreover, I believe that many in the media who are fans of Forza have deceived the public by overhyping it. Additionally, claiming it to be the best next-gen car game is misleading. This is why there's a growing resentment towards the Forza community and the game itself-it feels as though the entire marketing campaign was misleading.
    Music: • Livin Joy - Dreamer (T...

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  • @AutomotiveVP
    @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +4

    NEW: Forza Motorsport vs Gran Turismo 7: 1989 BMW M3 Sport Evolution Comparison | 4K60 ua-cam.com/video/N2Q0jct7I5I/v-deo.html

    • @michaeldongor4281
      @michaeldongor4281 8 місяців тому +1

      you wrote "it feels as though the entire marketing campaign was misleading". I'm a Forza fan but buddy, that's not a feeling, that's the truth... They straight up lied

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@michaeldongor4281 100%, and I was so hyped for it. But it just killed my enthusiasm after about 10 hours in. I started to see that there really isn't much to it, apart from some good races we get online now!

  • @CalculatedRiskAK
    @CalculatedRiskAK 8 місяців тому +101

    The interior of the 190E in GT7 is just absolutely breathtaking. Even the smallest of details looks like it was given consideration. The different color glass on the side wing mirrors is an absolute testament to that. GT7 seems to be a car museum with a racing sim-cade attached to it, and for that I really love it. I sometimes go into the garage to just... look and appreciate.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +11

      Absolutely, the details in VR are truly outstanding. It blows my mind too, especially when I'm in the garage just admiring the cars. Watching friends experience it for the first time and seeing their reactions is always a highlight, haha.
      I'm curious about your perspective. Why do you think the game is classified as 'simcade'?
      I've noticed this debate is quite intense, especially among PC players.

    • @stephenrobinson9709
      @stephenrobinson9709 8 місяців тому

      But xbox game graphics have always been better and smoother, & I'm a PS5 owner 😢

    • @yunova
      @yunova 7 місяців тому +1

      @@stephenrobinson9709 yeah, you’re a PS five owner, who jumped in a grocery cart and flew down a hill off a cliff into a pit of despair and delusion😂

    • @olavofernandes7286
      @olavofernandes7286 4 місяці тому

      @@AutomotiveVP you can even see the reflection in the dash board cluster in gran turismo 7

  • @alessiobrabus7990
    @alessiobrabus7990 8 місяців тому +24

    After experiencing the sensation of actually being inside the cockpit of your dream cars in VR, or even just admiring them from the outside in the VR showroom, any driving simulator without VR support remains light years behind.

  • @heito0
    @heito0 8 місяців тому +21

    GT7 is truly made with love for cars

  • @resurikuro5699
    @resurikuro5699 8 місяців тому +11

    GT7 is truly having a big joker card against every single car/racing sim, that is the VR. Not the looks only, but the experience you get with the VR driving, that makes perfectly clear: The real driving simulator.

  • @markthegamedriver
    @markthegamedriver 8 місяців тому +194

    A Motorsport game with a rewind button says it all

    • @jpolimus
      @jpolimus 8 місяців тому +1

      They’re both games

    • @markthegamedriver
      @markthegamedriver 8 місяців тому +42

      @@jpolimus Yh who said they were not games???

    • @jesusserrano8769
      @jesusserrano8769 8 місяців тому +14

      ​@@jpolimusfor real ?

    • @fritzstewart1278
      @fritzstewart1278 8 місяців тому +18

      I never understood why they had that silly option tho..... rewind.... LMAO

    • @markthegamedriver
      @markthegamedriver 8 місяців тому +18

      @@fritzstewart1278 because it’s forza horizon track edition 🤧😂

  • @Nakai_the_Wanderer
    @Nakai_the_Wanderer 8 місяців тому +31

    You can make the GT7 3rd person camera more floaty to look alot more like Forza or Gran Turismo 3 and 4 back in the day.
    During a race, go to the camera settings, down at the bottom you will find camera sensitivity and rotation axis offset. Set sensitivity to 1 and offset to 0. You can also change the 3rd person view to be closer to the car or further away.
    I like that Forza has an interior view without the steering wheel.

    • @jeeves_uk
      @jeeves_uk 8 місяців тому +1

      Here is some pointless info for you. The FOV in GT4 is set at 90°

  • @askmyAK
    @askmyAK 8 місяців тому +23

    When he walks around the car in VR 😭

  • @AllOutNoobHater
    @AllOutNoobHater 7 місяців тому +3

    Holy shit they actually tinted the side mirrors blue like they used to back then, on GT7.
    Applause is deserved. Also, glad they didn’t make the car sound it has a ton of angry bees coming out of the engine.

  • @Nightmaretyrant
    @Nightmaretyrant 8 місяців тому +12

    I switched to forza for 5 years but going back to GT, i feel like for what I want in a car game personally get more out of GT7, i think it looks better and its fun just to cruise around tracks where Forza feels like its trying to be more race focused and everything else suffers because of it. I like the cafe club vibe of GT aswell vs Forzas colder asthetic.

  • @joinkerd_rl
    @joinkerd_rl 8 місяців тому +5

    bro casually just made the cleanest looking 190e

  • @user-xh1ez7dh9j
    @user-xh1ez7dh9j 9 місяців тому +31

    😂😂😂😂😂 This was brilliant, GT7 is way better then Forza

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  9 місяців тому +7

      This Forza IMO is the best Forza to come out for online racing & I love it. But it's not taking the crown from GT anytime soon!

  • @FiatUno2003
    @FiatUno2003 8 місяців тому +2

    Forza Motorsport feels like a "pick your favourite car, take it to your favourite race track and drive it" while Gran Turismo 7 feels more like a "take your favourite car, appreciate its details up close and then take it to youir favourite race track to appreciate it even more"

  • @unitoftemp
    @unitoftemp 7 місяців тому +2

    Polyphony didn't just stick on pristine paint on their cars. You could see the micro-scratches on some models, that's quality work.

  • @markthegamedriver
    @markthegamedriver 8 місяців тому +16

    Even gtsport compared to fm2023 gtsport will win.

  • @supercededman
    @supercededman 8 місяців тому +7

    Superb showcase I've had GT7 since its release; the same with VR2.
    This 'game' is utterly gorgeous. Uve shown me features I had not appreciated.
    Thankyou so much.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому

      You’re welcome mate! Always kind words appreciated

  • @noleyestoad4477
    @noleyestoad4477 8 місяців тому +33

    GT7 is truly a beautiful game

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +5

      It's a work of passion, craftsmanship, and a love letter to car enthusiasts.

    • @KinkKush
      @KinkKush 8 місяців тому

      ​@@AutomotiveVP real. forza bros wouldnt get it. like it isnt terrible but it's boring to an enthusiast. you cant sit there and admire the cars in forza

    • @Carlito_Brigante93
      @Carlito_Brigante93 5 місяців тому

      It is, but why can’t they fix the delayed steering wheel animation.

    • @noleyestoad4477
      @noleyestoad4477 5 місяців тому

      @@Carlito_Brigante93 you must be to used to playing unrealistic steering games if you have any complaints about GT7 physics this the most accurate iteration of a console sim capturing real cars qualities to ever be in a game on console period

    • @Carlito_Brigante93
      @Carlito_Brigante93 5 місяців тому

      @@noleyestoad4477 Lol! The car had already come out of the corner and moving forwards but the hands are still turning the steering wheel. That is veeery realistic for a 50’s hollywood movie perhaps 🤣

  • @NinetyTres
    @NinetyTres 7 місяців тому +1

    Blue tint on rear view mirrors in GT7, chefs kiss 👌
    Showroom Forza detail, lower than gameplay GT7 detail

  • @michaeldongor4281
    @michaeldongor4281 8 місяців тому +15

    GT 7's car models are on another level entirely. However racing in FM feels better. It's like I'm more connected to what the tires of the vehicle are actually doing... then again in the sound compartment and when it comes to AI GT7 takes the crown for me... sometimes I just stop, rev.. and enjoy vehicles like old v12 ferrari's and the lexus LFA.
    Sometimes I'd wish they would work together and create multiplatform perfection

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +12

      Personally, I feel that Forza only offers better driving when in chase cam because it's not static. But for realism and fun, I prefer GT because it's so demanding to hit those good times. However, I do race with a wheel and never use the chase cam In GT, I never have and never will [use chase cam], as it just feels too stiff. But playing inside or with VR is where it really hits the spot, haha! and the wheel play is perfect. As for Forza, the gameplay with a wheel is really poor, even after watching 100 videos to get the right settings. It just doesn't feel right. However, when it comes to chase cam, I like to go online, rip through the tracks with the controller, and just chill for a bit, haha!

    • @michaeldongor4281
      @michaeldongor4281 8 місяців тому +2

      I have the same with GT, even after the update no chase cam for me. Also I don't have a wheel for my xbox so I can't compare those. I hear it A LOT though (that wheelracing on FM is kinda dissapointing)
      @@AutomotiveVP

  • @briangiven7399
    @briangiven7399 8 місяців тому +4

    One could almost say GT7 is "Streets Ahead"

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +1

      Way better thumbnail idea!

    • @briangiven7399
      @briangiven7399 8 місяців тому

      @@AutomotiveVP it's a Chevy Chase Community reference, if the quote was a little vague 😋

  • @SpitfireTheWolf
    @SpitfireTheWolf 8 місяців тому +2

    The 190E is one of the many cars Forza refuses to remodel after using it in previous Forza games dating back to the XB360 days. If anybody’s wondering why it looks off in certain areas, that’s your answer

    • @stephenrobinson9709
      @stephenrobinson9709 8 місяців тому

      The Xbox ray tracing was deadly on the static merc

    • @SpitfireTheWolf
      @SpitfireTheWolf 8 місяців тому +1

      @@stephenrobinson9709 ray tracing does not fix imperfections on a car model. Just makes everything more reflective

  • @Pfwurst
    @Pfwurst 8 місяців тому +1

    Nice mix of dreamer at the end 😮

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +1

      Suited the car! Good old days!

  • @JK18.
    @JK18. 9 місяців тому +16

    Nicely done bro but I'm more for gt7 for the driving physics but Forza is just a lot of fun

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  9 місяців тому +22

      I enjoy both of them as well, but I'm 100% for GT7 due to its features and VR, which is a game-changer for me! However, sometimes I like to play 'chase cam with a controller ' and take on people online for fun - that's where Forza comes in. GT is for when I feel like I'm in a real-life motorsport race using the wheel and VR; it's so demanding, haha! UPDATE: Forza is boring AF now lol

    • @comptonsmurf1235
      @comptonsmurf1235 8 місяців тому

      @@AutomotiveVPyes psvr gran turismo 7 is something yo behold driving the Nurburgring in some of porsches best handling legendary race cars is a feeling like none other

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому

      @@comptonsmurf1235 Absolutely incredible, mate. I love introducing people to VR for the first time and blowing their minds. It gives me so much satisfaction.

    • @comptonsmurf1235
      @comptonsmurf1235 8 місяців тому

      @@AutomotiveVP yea I took it to a friend get together we had a couple of months back I have a lot of friends who are in love with jdm cars and they were all mind blown about the game in vr the detail to the way every car feels different is amazing

    • @e46m54nissansr20937
      @e46m54nissansr20937 8 місяців тому

      Its the physics for me as well very rewarding

  • @gabrielsobrosa
    @gabrielsobrosa 8 місяців тому +2

    that same Evo model from Forza was in FM4, more than 2 generations behind...

  • @paulorodrigues1603
    @paulorodrigues1603 8 місяців тому +1

    "Both are good games"
    - Enzo, 19 years, Xbox player that don't want to assume that GT7 is waaay better than FM.

  • @GAWTYONEK
    @GAWTYONEK 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for the conparison im actually really enjoying Grid Legends for the moment as it offers something different to gt, forza or motorfest.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +1

      Grid Legends is super fun! In my opinion, the first game was the best one, without a doubt. I'll be uploading gameplay from that game soon. I've been playing catch-up with creating videos for the car gaming community. I've just started, and I thought, 'You know what? It's time to use this channel!' Haha I have to say it's been a good year for car games!

    • @briangiven7399
      @briangiven7399 8 місяців тому

      @@AutomotiveVP keep up the great work man!

    • @4storyboss
      @4storyboss 8 місяців тому

      yes, and the grid legends' soundtrack is best from the grid series tbh

  • @rayyagamer2011
    @rayyagamer2011 2 місяці тому

    Bro the thumbnail tricked me,i thought you were comparing the irl car vs forza motorsport's 190,silly me😂

  • @keep_it_low_bro
    @keep_it_low_bro 8 місяців тому +2

    The eye doesnt lie, GT is better than Forza.

  • @markmacken1
    @markmacken1 8 місяців тому +1

    Is that xbox series x? And if so which graphics settings? Thanks great video.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому

      Thank you for your comment, and apologies for my late reply. As someone who is quite particular about graphics, I prefer my games to look their best. Therefore, in Forza, I usually opt for the 'VISUALS' setting. However, when I go online, I sometimes switch to 'PERFORMANCE' mode.

    • @markmacken1
      @markmacken1 8 місяців тому

      ​@@AutomotiveVPThanks for response. If you are doing a comparison video you should have both games at the same 60fps framerate. Therefore you should have Forza Motorsport in either Performance or Performance RT mode. Visuals mode is not a fair comparison because you are lowering the FPS to 30FPS to make the game look better. Essentially its cheating, because why not lower to 1FPS and make it look even better again... please use Performance or Performance RT for comparison to GT7.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому

      @@markmacken1 Thank you for your suggestion regarding the video comparison settings. I understand your point about maintaining a consistent 60fps frame rate for a fair comparison. However, the purpose of this particular video is to showcase the car models in their best visual quality, rather than focusing on performance metrics. Therefore, both games, Forza Motorsport and GT7, are set to their highest visual settings. This approach is chosen to emphasize the detail and aesthetics of the car models, which is the central aspect of this video. I appreciate your feedback and will consider your advice for future videos that focus more on performance comparison. Thank you for your understanding.

    • @markmacken1
      @markmacken1 8 місяців тому

      @@AutomotiveVP Thanks, other than that i thought it was a great video and i would love to see it again after the 2.0 patch tomorrow which included a fix for black paint and other things. If you can put in the description the graphics settings you use that would also be great.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому

      @@markmacken1 Thank you for your kind words and feedback on the video! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it. I'm also excited about the 2.0 patch and its potential improvements, including the fix for black paint among other updates. I'll definitely consider revisiting the game post-patch to showcase the changes in a new video. Also, I appreciate your suggestion about including the graphics settings in the description. I'll make sure to add that information for more clarity and reference. Stay tuned, and thanks again for your support!

  • @Not_Aran8276
    @Not_Aran8276 8 місяців тому +1

    16:32 Watching it on 480p, I would believe that this is irl if someone told me so

  • @initialdoge8528
    @initialdoge8528 8 місяців тому +5

    I know it sounds embarrassing but..can you compare Assoluto racing(mobile game) to forza motorsport 8 please?

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +3

      There's nothing embarrassing about it; it's something you're curious about, and I would be happy to see if I can satisfy your curiosity. I will take a look into it during the week :)

  • @MPHI77
    @MPHI77 8 місяців тому

    Holy Fu.. even the Mirrors are blue tinted like the original 😍

  • @e46m54nissansr20937
    @e46m54nissansr20937 8 місяців тому +1

    I want that 190E so bad

  • @Nikinjapan
    @Nikinjapan 8 місяців тому

    Gt7 models clearly look better but I also like the grime build up/damage in fm

  • @vyasrushi5177
    @vyasrushi5177 8 місяців тому +4

    Lower the volume level for tire sliding to minimal in GT7

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for your feedback.

  • @dolbyprologicii
    @dolbyprologicii 8 місяців тому

    idle sound is objectively better on forza. it sounds accurate for the position of the camera.

  • @Rockport1911
    @Rockport1911 8 місяців тому +1

    0:33 Beautiful game, but I still dont get why GT7 has these aggressive bright reflections that ruin the whole picture and make every Replay come with an epilepsy warning. I know that it might be real ( brand new paint and chrome under dessert sun) but its not easy on the eye and should atleast be able to turned off or lower.

    • @hebisty4163
      @hebisty4163 8 місяців тому +1

      Settings - display - EV exposure. Why critique something that can be adjusted in 5 seconds ?

  • @JAMES_ARROW
    @JAMES_ARROW 7 місяців тому

    I’ve been a Forza playing since e FM2 and I must say Polyphony really won me over with GT7. No question Forza has been missing the mark for a long time.

  • @JV-mw7gv
    @JV-mw7gv 8 місяців тому +2

    Both games look amazing, and if I had the cash I’d have both a ps and Xbox. But gt7 is my game for now even though it’s still missing several cars I want. Same thing with forza.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому

      The thing I want for GT is a greater variety of everyday cars, like in the old days!

    • @e46m54nissansr20937
      @e46m54nissansr20937 8 місяців тому

      @@AutomotiveVPThats all I want to modify everyday cars. The used car dealer on previous titles was like a gold mine

    • @Roguewrrior56
      @Roguewrrior56 8 місяців тому +1

      I got both consoles and games. They do both look good, but that changes when you start actually playing forza. Could be because I'm a huge car guy, so the details and all have to be good. Which forza does for most the cars, but some just look bad lol

  • @Kill3rg00s3
    @Kill3rg00s3 8 місяців тому +2

    To me gt7 looks to much saturation or something. The new forza looks more life life

  • @jcm2789
    @jcm2789 8 місяців тому +2

    Forza is not using the same car models In game and show room cars unlike GT7 car models in game and in show room are consistent all throughout the game.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +1

      You can observe this throughout the NPC cars as well. GT7 maintains consistency, but the tire quality in-game seems to be lower in GT, although I'm not sure why. I guess in reality, none of us are really focusing on the tires, haha.

  • @coy9958
    @coy9958 8 місяців тому +2

    It all depends what you're into in both of this racing title. Some could be more into photography, livery, fun factor, physics, racing, customization, collecting. Tuning ect.. All of this is debatable and doesn't make either title leagues ahead of the other.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +6

      This discussion primarily focuses on the car model details and the community aspect within the game, especially with its VR feature. However, it ultimately depends on the players' preferences. You are right, and this is simply my perspective on why I prefer GT7 over Forza.

    • @keep_it_low_bro
      @keep_it_low_bro 8 місяців тому +8

      ​@@AutomotiveVPGran Turismo whether old or new is for the mature folks whilst Forza is for grown children that don't own a car or license. Hands down GT is the truest racing simulator in game form, Forza has always been an arcadish type of racer, not 100% authentic in its realism as far as physics/graphics/details, GT has it all.

    • @coy9958
      @coy9958 8 місяців тому

      @@keep_it_low_bro wow! Words of a true fanboy.

    • @keep_it_low_bro
      @keep_it_low_bro 8 місяців тому +1

      @@coy9958 You know it's true, you're a GT fanboy as well.

    • @coy9958
      @coy9958 8 місяців тому

      @@keep_it_low_bro What's true is you sound like the grown child that doesn't own a car or have a licence. How ironic.

  • @anthonydry5265
    @anthonydry5265 8 місяців тому

    Is this the silent version of your critique?
    I own both. Some things on gt7 are better, some things on forza are better. Gt7 had a rough launch with its own issues like ray tracing, micro transactions, poor payouts, drm etc, it’s just people have forgotten after a years worth of updates.
    Forza has had a bumpy launch also, not meeting requirements they set for themselves. I’m sure in a years time this game will be in just as strong a position as gt7.
    As for damage modelling it’s pretty weak on both, but better on forza just but not surprising it isn’t full implemented. No doubt to do with manufacturers wishes.

  • @FabioFTazz
    @FabioFTazz 8 місяців тому

    Finally we can see a GT better than FM…

  • @JediAteBurger
    @JediAteBurger 8 місяців тому

    if GT7 could improve its damage system, that'll be sweet

  • @PhsykoOmen
    @PhsykoOmen 8 місяців тому

    Both got pros and cons

  • @4storyboss
    @4storyboss 8 місяців тому +1

    so far i've noticed that the damage, engine sound and the tyre squeal sound is better in forza motorsport, but smoke effects, car model, reflections and the colors are better in gt7

  • @NVProlog
    @NVProlog 8 місяців тому

    Remember the time that FM had significanlty more detailed cars than GT? And now…. Yeah they don’t look so good

  • @user-zc9zt2vl5s
    @user-zc9zt2vl5s 7 місяців тому

    Forza has nothing over GT7!

  • @tylee9887
    @tylee9887 8 місяців тому +5

    Bruh fm8 online is buggy as shit at least gt7 has their daily races sorted

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, it really is a mess. I was not saying it's better than GT; it's just the best Forza online since F4 in my opinion.

    • @tylee9887
      @tylee9887 8 місяців тому +2

      @@AutomotiveVP i agree im glad not everyone is toxic in the new fm

  • @mochabear88
    @mochabear88 8 місяців тому +2

    For a wins in visual damage and tach legibility. I prefer gt7 for the other elements tho

    • @j3d89
      @j3d89 8 місяців тому +1

      If you're worried about what the tach is showing.... you're not racing

  • @SmileyVallo
    @SmileyVallo 8 місяців тому +2

    How do u wreck roof, front and side windows, side doors with front collision in forza. Car looks like its been rammed from every corner or hit with a bat. Wheels remain same place. Another fake advertisement. Better to have like gt7 minimal damage at right spot or non at all. I guess we never gonna have quality damage models like in Beam ng and Wreckfest.

    • @againstall4agsandtrans511
      @againstall4agsandtrans511 8 місяців тому

      Gt7 looked like the car had a light collisionafter that crash. 😂😂 u must be joking. Goh

    • @SmileyVallo
      @SmileyVallo 8 місяців тому

      I wrote "gt7 minimal damage at right spot" Didn't u read? I didnt say gt7 has realistic massive damage model, i said clearly minimalistic.@@againstall4agsandtrans511

  • @Mega3iD
    @Mega3iD 8 місяців тому

    I had souch a big hopes of FM... its better in car controll, good whell controls and day and night cyccle... but It was delivered in Project cars 2 also PC2 looks better and dont need new GPU for 4k 60 fps... I'm dissapoited but maybe updates will bring new content to the game also carrier mode is very boring I'dont even know does It have any ending

  • @GNFNR
    @GNFNR 8 місяців тому +4

    The lack of damage models is my biggest gripe with GT7, feels like there is no downside to crashing. Would love to see a full on damage system in a gt game one day, does anyone know if past gt games have had one? Gt7 is my first gt game

    • @ovyadrian
      @ovyadrian 8 місяців тому +8

      Nope, PD doesn’t like body work damage.

    • @GNFNR
      @GNFNR 8 місяців тому

      @@ovyadrian and for “a realistic driving simulator” you would expect a downside to crashing other than bouncing lol

    • @ovyadrian
      @ovyadrian 8 місяців тому

      @@GNFNR The game is nice, but calling itself “the real driving simulator” when it’s just a sim-cade racer is funny. There’s no real alternative on PC to GT other than Forza, but you can get into actual sim racing with other titles (some get to be expensive) and less expensive gear (console compatible DD wheels tend to have a higher price). Best GT titles so far have to be 3 and 4, even if they’re pretty old. If you can get a PS2 or use an emulator, you’re set with either of them.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +8

      The introduction of car damage in Gran Turismo 5 (GT5) marked a significant development in the series, aiming to add realism to the racing experience. However, this feature faced some challenges due to the preferences of car manufacturers involved in partnerships and sponsorships with the game.
      Introducing Damage in GT5: GT5 was among the first in the series to introduce a damage model. This was a move towards realism, allowing cars to show wear and tear from collisions and other racing incidents.
      Manufacturers' Concerns: Despite the push for realism, many car manufacturers were not keen on this feature. Their reluctance stemmed from a desire to maintain a pristine, undamaged image of their cars. These manufacturers preferred their vehicles to be showcased in the best possible condition, without any signs of damage.
      Direct Car Sales from the Game (GT7): An interesting development in more recent games like Gran Turismo 7 is the ability to purchase cars directly from the game. This feature again highlights the close relationship between the game developers and car manufacturers, blurring the lines between virtual and real-world car shopping.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +4

      @@ovyadrian I'm curious about your perspective. Why do you think the game is classified as 'simcade'?
      I've noticed this debate is quite intense, especially among PC players. It's intriguing to see how passionate people are about classifying the game as 'simcade'. What's your take on this? Why do you think it sparks such strong opinions?

  • @onlyarandomusername
    @onlyarandomusername 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm not a huge fan of Forza's vehicle shader. looks too much toy'ish

  • @danielholland3991
    @danielholland3991 8 місяців тому

    Gt has a sharper more saturated look whereas forza has a softer look with nore realistic lighting so its a "your preference" type deal there but I will day however wtf is up with the engine sounds on gt7?

  • @freddiecunningham2860
    @freddiecunningham2860 8 місяців тому +2

    Fanboy wars are for children. Why not enjoy both?

    • @noleyestoad4477
      @noleyestoad4477 8 місяців тому +3

      because ones not really enjoyable they had 6-7 years to give us this game and its nothing like they presented it or described it! CTFU

    • @Roguewrrior56
      @Roguewrrior56 8 місяців тому

      Cuz one is polished and the other looks and plays like shit after 7 years of dev time. No excuses for this mess of a product

    • @joaquingonzalez834
      @joaquingonzalez834 8 місяців тому

      because in today's economy, it's one or the other, almost never simultaneously

  • @andreasmoller9798
    @andreasmoller9798 8 місяців тому +8

    Gt7 is also leagues a head for me, for a couble of reasons
    Better car models
    More accurate sounds
    Vr support,
    More advanced dynamic wheather system
    Overall better visual customize parts in gt7, even exhausts changes when you upgrade them,
    I am just not impressed with the new fm and proably never buy it either, the worst parts are the outdated car models, fomo career mode, sounds worse than previous titles, very boring upgrade system to, gt7 has it flaws for sure but its way more complete pakage in my opinion

    • @brokentilebench
      @brokentilebench 8 місяців тому +1

      (Regarding The New Forza Motorsport) The controller driving is kind of fun, and the suspension compression audio is amazing, but it's sort of meh. It lacks any of the personality that GT7 has, with a boring, forgettable excuse of a soundtrack. Also, graphically, while courses for the most part look good, car models are sort of meh. I think it primarily has to do with the games lighting, because vehicle interiors, along with the very static interior camera, look awful. Funny enough though, both games have incredibly boring single player "campaigns", but GT7 was a tad more fun with its license tests, circuit experiences, and mission races.

    • @andreasmoller9798
      @andreasmoller9798 8 місяців тому

      @@brokentilebench wtf are you talking about gt7 has the best car models on the market, the most detailed interiors witch can really be seen in vr, the materials looks very realistic, and things like tailights and headlights looks incrediable good, their is just no game that can compete with gt7 in this aspect

    • @brokentilebench
      @brokentilebench 8 місяців тому +1

      @@andreasmoller9798 Bruh, I was shitting on Forza Motorsport, not GT7

    • @andreasmoller9798
      @andreasmoller9798 8 місяців тому +1

      @@brokentilebench oh sorry for misreading, i agree about career mode is not very good on both, its better in gt7 for me as you have more varity, and its permant events, in fm they have decided to add a career races thats time limited i dont understand why they are doing this so it dosen’t really matter if you buy it 2 years later becouse it wont expand, at least gt7 keep expand over time,

  • @tachykard01
    @tachykard01 8 місяців тому +1

    I don't like that wobbling in cockpit view in GT7. And why is there no dashcam view GT7?

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +3

      You can adjust all the settings to your preferences and eliminate the wobbling.

    • @tachykard01
      @tachykard01 8 місяців тому +1

      @@AutomotiveVP Thanks, I'll try that.

  • @Cyberware77
    @Cyberware77 8 місяців тому

    Gt7 is the winner for pure detail, upgrading cars, customisation, tracks, sounds when upgraded, physics, car models, content like chalanges and VR.
    Gt7 has only a few problems, the car sounds need more bass without upgrades and the game cant be played on pc 😢
    I bought it on launch day and can say that it is a great game while forza motorsport 8 is mediocre and not an upgrade from forza motorsport 7 with the same models, worse sounds and terrible pc performance with the game also lacking good content.

  • @justamanchimp
    @justamanchimp 8 місяців тому +1

    I’ve played both extensively, I wouldn’t say Gt7 is leagues ahead at all, it’s ahead in a lot of ways, graphics, features, how the leaderboards work, especially VR, and lots of stuff, but forza is ahead in physics imo, GT7 just doesn’t feel real, when you get a clean lobby forza produces better racing because the cars feel closer to real life, gt7 racing is kinda weird and that’s because of the physics, and track limits too! Forza nailed this, the forza physics are leagues ahead imo, that’s the most important part to me, gt7 just feels too arcade, too easy, you don’t feel that ragged sensation of being on the edge of grip that you feel in real life, GT7 just feels like you either have grip or you don’t, as soon as you lose grip you’ve lost the car, forza absolutely nails that gradual aspect of weight transfer and grip, especially in cockpit cam, there isn’t a better sim Cade game in this regard at the moment, and this is coming from someone who loves GT7

  • @B4P787
    @B4P787 8 місяців тому

    The interiors in forza look really bad no dept bad colours gt7 is just so much more polished

  • @Mr.Kumar1
    @Mr.Kumar1 8 місяців тому

    Say what you want, but it's clear there are things that forza does do better, it's not all gt

  • @Ebravo3343
    @Ebravo3343 8 місяців тому

    You put the exposure down on gt7, you are not slick

  • @Carlito_Brigante93
    @Carlito_Brigante93 5 місяців тому

    Everything is great with GT7, except that badly synced f***ng steering wheel animation

  • @junho33013
    @junho33013 8 місяців тому +1

    When it comes to facts, GT7 is better. There's no doubt. But what makes me hate this new FM is the soulless job they did. Of course, there will be new patches to improve the game, but it's pretty obvious that this franchise has been suffering a lot recently. The feeling, the passion about cara, all of this matters when you're playing a game. GT always brings us these characteristics, just like the older FM ones

  • @RogueBeatsARG
    @RogueBeatsARG 8 місяців тому +4

    Have to admit the Engine sounds are better in Forza

    • @nikkekuki
      @nikkekuki 8 місяців тому

      Distortion put on top of everything is good? 😬

    • @RogueBeatsARG
      @RogueBeatsARG 8 місяців тому

      @@nikkekuki nah, but sounds more natural because there using real recordings, GT7 still sounds like the sound is Synthesized or something

    • @gopanski5330
      @gopanski5330 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@RogueBeatsARGgt7 also uses real car sounds. Just not with distortion put over it

    • @RogueBeatsARG
      @RogueBeatsARG 8 місяців тому +3

      @@gopanski5330 GT7 sounds weird

    • @AA-wq2zl
      @AA-wq2zl 8 місяців тому

      @@RogueBeatsARGagree not all cars but the 190 sounds stupid with any exhaust and i hate it even tho i love gt7 overall

  • @ramellmerced8899
    @ramellmerced8899 8 місяців тому

    I love Forza motorsport 8 2023 and the face that you either purposely lowered the settings on PC or your using the Xbox Series S

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому

      Please enter the game and either record gameplay or take a screenshot of specific locations the same as mine. Afterward, share the results using the same format (SX) as I have done and conduct a fair comparison. No manipulation or distortion has been applied to any of the gameplay.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому

      Checkmate ua-cam.com/users/shortsqNQQttifR5A

  • @ChristianMartinez-lg4lk
    @ChristianMartinez-lg4lk 8 місяців тому +4

    Forza looks nicer inside. But gt7 wins on everything else.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +7

      I understand why you might think that, but Forza doesn't actually have more detailed interiors. It's quite minimalistic in detail. The difference lies in the lighting-Forza is brighter, allowing you to see everything clearly, while Gran Turismo often casts more shadows.

  • @TheSometimeAfter
    @TheSometimeAfter 7 місяців тому

    Forza looks fking horrendous... Like a game from 5 years ago.
    It also feels like it was made for a generation of TicTok users who just watch "oh you thought you were fast" videos

  • @maximiacovacci
    @maximiacovacci 8 місяців тому

    built from ground up and yet another recycled car model

  • @AdiCahyagaming
    @AdiCahyagaming 8 місяців тому

    Build from ground up..bullshit

  • @sbp6326
    @sbp6326 8 місяців тому

    Esaki is a scammer!

  • @justamanchimp
    @justamanchimp 8 місяців тому

    As soon as forza do VR I’d have no reason to play GT7, that’s the only real thing it has over forza minus general stability, maybe some graphics

  • @Whyteeford
    @Whyteeford 8 місяців тому

    GT7 has better visuals by a mile...but Forza is the more entertaining game to play. The connection and feel you get from the cars in on another level compared to GT7. Both great games tho, and if fanboys would just stop bashing the other, they'd have fun actually playing the games lol

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому

      I both agree and disagree with you. I don't play using the chase cam, so for me, GT is much more enjoyable, especially since I mainly play GT in VR. In contrast, Forza only seems superior in its chase cam experience, but I find its AI lacking. However, I do enjoy playing Forza with the chase cam, but that's about it. When it comes to playing with a racing wheel, Forza also falls short in my opinion.

  • @FOXmateusGamer
    @FOXmateusGamer 8 місяців тому +1

    GT7 Win

  • @edsondossantos9566
    @edsondossantos9566 8 місяців тому +4

    Forzinha 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MrHouse42069
    @MrHouse42069 8 місяців тому

    As an Xbox fan
    Gran turismo-the real racing simulator
    Forza-built from the ground up (lie)

  • @nihilityjoey
    @nihilityjoey 8 місяців тому +2

    You must be blind. The graphics in Forza are well better, better lighting and more realistic looking environments. Not to mention the amount of detail missing in gt7 compared to Forza. Gt7 has pop in despite not having as detailed tracks, and for not having ray tracing. The damage physics in Forza blew gt7 right out of the water, and gt7 silly camera movement is so off putting.
    You proved the opposite with this video.

    • @noleyestoad4477
      @noleyestoad4477 8 місяців тому

      then you actually took your eyes out your ass and put them back in your skull and realized GT7 is just light years past every car game on a console you can find

    • @Roguewrrior56
      @Roguewrrior56 8 місяців тому +4

      Says the one that's very obviously blind

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +2

      I will respond with a video to cover the track details. Meanwhile, please check this photo. twitter.com/AutomotiveVP/status/1711705380277957055

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +2

      Response video : ua-cam.com/video/xhZ33xXtd3E/v-deo.html

  • @nicog4638
    @nicog4638 8 місяців тому

    Why doesn't my motorsport look so crap lol maybe it's because I'm on console and this guy is comparing a budget pc forza motorsport to the ps5 gt7 to satisfy the fanboys lol

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +1

      Sit down chap: ua-cam.com/users/shortsqNQQttifR5A

  • @JasonB72481
    @JasonB72481 8 місяців тому +3

    All that burnout and not a tire mark left on the track in GT. Neither game is perfect. They both miss things. But to act as if GT doesn't have the epitome of raging fanboys gets lost on me. I've been playing both games from the start. I played GT when it first came out on the original PSX and the very first Forza Motorsport when it came out. GT fans have been attacking Forza since it's inception, and every iteration after. You can't check out Forza content without raging GT fanboys screaming at the top of their lungs about how GT is better. Both games are great, and play the one you love. But all you are doing is adding fuel to the fanboy bonfire. And I'm sorry, GT fanboys have been historically worse, and they attack almost all car titles. You can find them everywhere in almost every racing game that's "sim-like".

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +12

      As mentioned in the description of the video, I also clarified at the end that it's just banter. When I upload Forza photos, I receive a lot of feedback from both communities. However, whenever I upload GT photos, I'm often confronted with comments favoring Forza. This is just based on my online experience, as we all encounter different content. I didn't make a biased comparison; I presented both games favorably while highlighting the extra features that GT7 offers. The video is unbiased and honest, which was my main intention.
      I own/completed all the Forza and GT games. My opinion is that Forza was oversold, and here's why. What significant changes has Forza brought to the sim racing genre? In my view, none. The developers promoted it as a groundbreaking, next-gen sim racer. However, their main competition seems to be GT. This marketing created immense hype, suggesting that if their claims were true, we'd have an exceptional game. But in reality, what did they achieve? The only positive is the online racing experience similar to GT7, which is not always about bumper cars. However, the game falls short in many areas. The rain effects seem superficial, almost like a visual trick seen in GTA mods. The wheel gameplay is disappointing, the car models are not up to 'next-gen' standards, and the game frequently crashes or shuts off. It launched with numerous bugs. Even with the premium version, I couldn't get online for three hours, and then the game would kick us out. In contrast, GT never faced such issues, had zero game-breaking bugs, and was never overhyped. It's cross-gen and offers the best car models and track data available. This is the stark reality of the situation.
      They need to bring Project Cars back!

    • @JasonB72481
      @JasonB72481 8 місяців тому +1

      @@AutomotiveVP Um, I was there for both the GT Sport and GT7 reveal. Both were oversold. Remember the hyping of Ray tracing, then they had to temper everyone's expectations because it was only in replays. GT7 is far improved from it's launch. Forza literally launched for about a month now. You've got to be realistic. Bugs are going to happen and remember Forza isn't just on the Xbox platform, it's also on PC. Game development is complex, I always temper my expectations. I also know that there are a ton of people working hard to create something for me to enjoy. I'm not going to trash what they've created because it wasn't perfect. All I can do is hope that they get it to where it's suppose to be. I play forza on both PC and my XSX. My PC is more powerful, but the game runs way better on my console. It annoys me, but I know they are working hard on trying to mage a great experience for everyone. They've been very communicative and transparent. I just know it must suck to see so many people gaining clout by bashing what they've worked hard on. People celebrating the flaws and wishing for the downfall of their company. You might not do that, but check out your comment section and those that have created similar content to this video. It's absolutely terrible. I enjoy the game and I can't wait for it to get better.

    • @jpolimus
      @jpolimus 8 місяців тому +1

      @@JasonB72481you said everything I was thinking but better. Wonder what they will say when turn 10 improves motorsports. Love both games but PS fanboys be so dang toxic. Overall GT is better but the online experience on forza is more exciting and it’s been that way since the last iterations. This motorsports however had a good chance of being better than Forza 4 which was my personal favorite.

    • @Gix321
      @Gix321 8 місяців тому +14

      ​​​​​​@@jpolimusunrivaled graphics and fidelity and the most technically advanced racing game ever. Said nobody apart from forza devs.
      Theres a reason for everyone giving them shit. Dont talk shit and you wont get called out on it. I play both, and yes GT fans can be toxic just like some forza fans but forza fans are also delusional which fuels the toxicity.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  8 місяців тому +6

      @@Gix321 Someone get's it!

  • @b.t.motori
    @b.t.motori 8 місяців тому +1

    Forza is far away from good but this vacuum cleaner in GT7 is horrible. Same shit car sound still exist 😅

    • @super_street_racer5094
      @super_street_racer5094 8 місяців тому +11

      The car on stock form must sound like That irl because GT7 has more accurate sounds than forza 90% of the time.

    • @coy9958
      @coy9958 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@super_street_racer5094 90% really? Where did you get that data from? 🙄

    • @andreasmoller9798
      @andreasmoller9798 8 місяців тому +7

      Gt7 has better sounds than fm, no vacuum cleaner sound anymore in gt, they have better sounds overall, the tables have really turned remember how good fm4 sounded and how bad gt5 and gt6 sounded, since then gt has improved massivly, and forza sounds has just gone downhill since then

    • @b.t.motori
      @b.t.motori 8 місяців тому

      @@andreasmoller9798 Forza have downgrade absolutely but GT is still have pure garbage car sounds 😂

    • @andreasmoller9798
      @andreasmoller9798 8 місяців тому +4

      @@b.t.motori i disagree they have actully good sounds just not on every car, but they are better than fm, and they are up their with the competetion, they nailed the lfa demon and 992 gt3 rs in latest update, the lfa ex in fm sounds like garbage, the vacuum cleaner talk is just bs and that is not the case for either gt sport or gt7, the only problem gt is having is that the sounds can be to muted, but in the cockpit they almost always is spot on,they have pretty accurate sounds overall, fm does not

  • @stephenrobinson9709
    @stephenrobinson9709 8 місяців тому

    I'M PS all the way but xbox has always pissed graphically over Sony. 😢