Brahms, Symphony No. 3 Op, 90 - Furtwangler, live 1949 (complete)
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
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Johannes Brahms - Symphony No.3 in F, Op 90
0:00 - I. Allegro con brio
13:16 - II. Andante
22:59 - III. Allegretto
29:22 - IV. Allegro
Wilhelm Furtwangler, Berliner Philharmoniker
recorded live at RIAS Berlin, december 18, 1949
The BEST Brahms 3rd. EVER.
This is the kind of recording that makes you reconsider everything you thought you knew, about Brahms, music, art, life, everything.
On more note: the sound. The sound! True high fidelity. 1949. Unbelievable. What magic. The coughing in the live performance isn't even a bother. December. Cold. Berlin in ruins. Everyone who was still alive, ill. And they came to the hall for music. For Brahms. For Furtwangler. Furtwangler! BPO. Brahms. Warmth and the sun on a cold December day a lifetime ago. A thousand thanks.
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Not only are the thorny interpretive problems solved, but Furtwangler displays a vast, empathetic musical imagination. It flows like oil..... And what a sound!
The greatest Brahms 3rd of them all. The flexibility of tempo, nuance, and coloring are exquisite. The 3rd movement -- how it begins with a slow upbeat, and then magically continues briskly at a tempo so much faster than you thought would be possible ... And to consider the background of the performance, the bombed out capital in the winter, so much love brought to a project. If only Furtwangler had lived into the stereo era, his legacy might have been more influential. He "plays" the orchestra as if he were at a keyboard. Nothing else compares. He "plays" the same game in the last movement as in the 3rd mvmt -- begins slowly, hesitatingly -- then the trombone thunderclouds appear and whooosh! the storm hits at faster, and faster tempo -- more desperate! The fastest Brahms 3rd "Allegro" of them all (approaching 100 bpm) -- yes, "molto" -- except when it's not (I count as least six separate tempos) -- and thanks for it all. Bravo. Bravo. And bravo again. At last the storm clouds clear, and the sun shines as the sun sets (or rises). The symphony concludes -- the war is over at last. Many thanks to ReSound for bringing this performance (and the symphony) so alive.
The greatest Brahms 3rd ever! The Final is of incredible power. There is all the history of German music in it. And played in a dramatic moment of German history. I agree with those saying that Furtwangler Brahms is definitive, impossible to make better.
@LeonardoMauretti: Concordo, la poetica di Brahms viene cantata da Furtwangler in maniera sconvolgente. Per ogni singola battuta si potrebbero scrivere pagine di osservazioni. Non accadrà mai più che un interprete penetri in tal modo i capolavori sinfonici del genio di Amburgo. E nei conservatori, nei corsi di direzione, che fanno, studiano Furtwangler? Aveva ragione il grande Claudio Abbado sulla sua statura......
Какая пронзительная музыкальность, проникающая в глубь сердца...
A truly sublime performance by maestro Wilhelm Furtwängler and the Berliner Philharmoniker, lovingly recorded with the best audio technology of the time in 1949.
Stunning. The sumptuousness of the sound bed, the ominous low frequencies, and the magnificently imprecise baton, as only Furtwaengler could execute it, all toward building an indescribable musical image that remains deeply satisfying through the ages.
Un moment de grâce absolu. Impossible de ne pas être emporté durant toute cette symphonie, avec le vertige d'avoir touché le sommet de la musique de Brahms. là, je reste sans voix ! Version très bien restaurée techniquement au passage. Magique !
Agréé totalement.
One of the greatest if not the greatest Brahms 3rd's. True poetry. The variations in tempo, the phrasings, the interpretive depth. The last movement, "Allegro" has always been a frustration, always taken to slow - Moderato at best. Furtwangler begins it slower yet @ 60 and below! He treats the opening bars as an introduction, a storm threatening, then when if finally breaks, does it break -- pushing to 90, then drives to 100! The slowest Brahms 3rd becomes the fastest of any Brahms 3rd.
If you listen to what happens immediately after the slow start to the finale you realise why it's slow - the wind and brass chords derive from the slow movement and he wants to make sure you hear that - they will be the climax of the finale.
I am continually referencing and relistening to this astounding recording.
One can remark on the quality of the HiFi circa 1949, but what really gets me is the depth of feeling. The orchestra plays with an amazingly complex array of emotion, the harmony and phrases rendered with such ferocious passion. Every recapitulation and harmonic pivot feels like the next great emotional episode in an unwinding tale that’s almost too full of detail to believe. Really, some of the most beautiful music making ever is captured in this recording. Real human spirit, with grit and triumph.
For me, 20:25 is one of most expressive moments. Completely overwhelming.
The coda to the first movement-- wow! Amazing how the orchestra doesn't fall apart
@26:39 the warm glowing sound of the Viennese horn. What a different sound from American orchestras. Even in this older recording you can hear the difference.
My friend the Yankee conductors and Orcherras are the worst to perform the German Repreproite
these are no viennese horns
It's actually a single Bb Alexander, likely with an A, E, or F extension. Quite a different beast from the 103- even the 103's of its day! Also quite different from Brain's tone, as regional style was much further apart then.
The player is either Otto Machut or Martin Ziller. I lean towards Ziller, since there is a solo recording of him with Konoye, and the timbre is similar. I have heard his playstyle (and that of Machut) described as part of the Wagnerian Franz Strauss tradition, which puts it not too far from the Viennese tradition. Certainly beyond the equipment, the bravura and desperate romanticism are from a much older school than the more polished, but perhaps unfortunately safer, playing favoured today.
What a beauty
What is it about Wilhelm Furtwangler? Every recording I have of his is pure magic. I stumbled across a recording of Brahms 4th Symphony back when I was a young cello player in high school, and I have been a fan of his ever since. I was born the year he died..
There's a story from one of the musicians of the BPO that one day they were rehearsing (under a different conductor) when suddenly he noticed everyone was just playing better. He looked to the front; the conductor wasn't doing anything special. Then he saw Furtwangler standing in the wings just watching, and he says everyone just started playing better by him being there. He didn't even have to *do* anything. I understand Mengelberg had a similar effect.
I don't know what it is about Furtwangler, either. Every recording I hear is pure mess.
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E Mack, I couldn’t agree more. Furtwangler’s Beethoven, Brahms, and Bruckner is pure genius.
Since being a music student (over 50 years ago) I have been a huge fan of Toscanini - particularly his Brahms Symphonies and Overtures. I have to admit I have never heard this Furtwangler recording. I will report back!
magnificent! the analogue high fidelity is so far superior to todays distorted digital recordings...sound have more warmth even a more human feel it's hard to put into words but is so obvious upon listening. just amazing!
Though I am no expert on the technical aspects of analogue high fidelity vs digital recordings, I too love the warm, rich sound of recordings like these. They sound more alive, as though you were in the best seat in the concert hall.
+Checkered Flag Films
Lmao. You are listening to a youtube video. A digital audio file. Not even a lossless file at that. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Yet you are listening to digital audio.
Even that SpaghettiToaster, the tube-valve recording and mastering do magic in sound paste. Digital gear nowadays try to emulate and do it very well but......
The original recording was analog and still retains that warm quality though this is a digital upload.
Incroyable! Indépassable! Unique! ... C'est l ' Âme de Brahms redescendue sur la Terre par la magie de Furtwängler pour nous
pauvres humains qui ne pouvons en recueillir que difficilement quelques miettes éparses...
A jamais la plus grand interprétation de cette oeuvre. Thank you for this.
This intro part is what I would play when first entering the city of my defeated enemy.
Check out the final of Mahlers 2nd Symphony :)
This is really extraordinary. There are many technical mistakes in this recording (the musicians have difficulties to follow the conductor especially at the beginning) but even Guilini recognized that this recording is the best ever. We will probably never have a new Furtwangler. This tradition is dead. I hope I am wrong but as Carlos Kleiber always said, it is impossible to equal Furtwangler. Let’s hope he was wrong.
Johannes Brahms - Symphony No.3 in F, Op 90
0:00 - I. Allegro con brio
13:16 - II. Andante
22:59 - III. Allegretto
29:22 - IV. Allegro
What a stunning performance. And what a beautiful remastering, so technically accomplished, perfectly equalised, allowing the BPO's sound to glow.
The only thing holding it back is the pervasive (if sporadic) high level of flutter in the source tape, clotting the textures and hampering the flow, and the logic of Furtwängler's phrasing.
But technology has come a long way in the decade+ since this painstaking transfer was made. There are now digital programs (e.g. "Capstan"), that can remove wow and and flutter to an astonishing degree. Maybe it's now time to give this otherwise-perfect transfer another remastering...
For me the most convincing approach to Brahms' 3rd. The beginning like a big magnificent ship making sail!! And, oh boy, the finale! Real furor! Furtwängler shows the real potential of this great work!
Great sound quality for Furtwangler.
Thank you for taking the time to upload this.
La que más me gusta. 🎶🎶🥇🇮🇷
Es mi versión favorita para la Sinfonía 3 de Brahms! 🎶 Muchas gracias por compartirla! 🤗
Furtwängler was unique. Listeners of course may like or dislike his interpretive style. In my younger days, I often followed a score as I listened, thinking it was the way to understand a composer's message. In time, I came to realize that music speaks to each of us as individuals at a level far deeper than just marks on paper. A score is like a Shakespearean play, with many ways the same text and stage direction can be interpreted and eloquently performed. Each of us perceives music in our own way, hoping to be moved by the composer's voice at that deeper level. For many, myself included, Furtwängler often made that voice heard with great clarity.
Furtwangler the master of all he surveys.
An very pleasurable recording, even more so considering that it was recorded on the equipment of the day in 1949.
Tne state of grace of two genius
No doubt the ending of the blockade and the success of Operation Vittles which saved Berliners in the western sector from starvation or surrender accounts for the jubilant performance. You can tell this concert was recorded in the Titania-Palast after May 12th because the drone of Douglas C-47 cargo planes is no where to be heard! Thanks for sharing this project. It compliments the mono Audite version from 2009. They are both excellent in their own way. By the way be wary of Google’s ability to translate English to Japanese this is what it make of my commentあなたはこのコンサートが親戚の影響を受けた宇宙船や降伏から西部地域で録音されたと言えるでしょう。このプロジェクトを共有してくれてありがとう。それは2009年からのモノオーディット版を賛美します。Translated back to English it reads: You can say that this concert was recorded in the western region from spaceships and surrenders influenced by relatives. Thank you for sharing this project. It praises the mono audit version from 2009.
your this work is very excellent
この演奏会の再現性は、疑いなく激賞に値します。
劇的で感動的なブラームスですね。
cuando la vida se acaba...y los sueños son recuerdos...
Meraviglia!
Sublime
ブラームスではこの曲が一番好きです。特に終楽章の第2主題、「タッターララタッターララ」には萌えます。
Que ultimo movimiento furtwangler el mas grande.
I have heard some Brahms symphonies perfomances on you tube and on in his 3th on score its recomended Allegro con brio, oh if we got jus a bit more of "brio" I bet that the true Brahms spirit comes better !!!
Oh, that third movement! Only Furtwängler and von Karajan knew how to do it!
And Karajan? What ?!!!
Karajan is not a musician but a music maker.
20:28 remind me of the Love motif from Die Walkure
And now you have to listen to barenboim...rattle...nelsons and all that goddam magilla?
Vivid sound
"дизлайки" оставили, конечно, инфузории.
16:30 - 16:38 I've heard this strange chord in Kachaturian's Gayane ballet.
what is it? he's a lover, not a hater.
17:10
20:13
i am japanese. ああ、これ、なんと言う演奏だろう...berliner philharamoniker が karajanの時代とは違う音がしている．wilhelm furtwaengler sound は，あったんだね...
Please speak English.
+MashedTubers please don't speak at all
English is the universal language of power. USE IT.
+MashedTubers translators exist in 2015. USE IT.
+jeremy ellison , That's telling MashedTubers, Jeremy.
El 3 mov,es mas famoso,pero,a mi',me llega mas el 2 mov.-
どんなに立派な演奏であっても他の指揮者の演奏は退屈で最後まで聴く気になれないんだけどフルトヴェングラーは別。私にとって彼は好きなロックミュージシャンと同じでわくわくどきどきして引き込まれてしまうんだ。
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Brahms is a composer whose conductor's abilities really show through. When played by a poor conductor, Brahms becomes as boring as a Latin grammar lesson.
Furtwängler's Brahms is perfect. No one can conduct Brahms better than him.
同意，沒有人指揮布拉姆斯比福特萬格勒更好。There is no one can conduct Brahms better than Furtwangler.
Furtwangler helped me to finally “discover” Brahms. And even Bruckner. Now I love them both.
>Please speak English.
HA?
そんなことは私の知ったことではない。
素直に感動して素直に表現するのは私の自由だよ
perhaps you can find good japanese-English translater nearing you
i have good feeeling about this
Fuck You
I find this to be one of the great conductor's least satisfying performances; what is it about this symphony that eludes so many great conductors? Is it the fault of the work itself? Bruno Walter comes closest to an ideal performance, and Karajan/VPO is also very fine.
No la ponen en español porque a España no les interesa esta música.
heil furtwangler !
this is gods Music ..... Brahms was not an Atheist....... no Atheist has ever composed great Music.....Facts and love from vienna austria
good point
Loads of great composers were atheists.
Listen Bruckner 4, 7, 8 & 9 for a glorious touch to heaven!!!
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
Why push your beliefs upon us? Enjoy the outstanding music and rendition!
芸術について語るとき、古い日本人の目標は、小林秀雄。
誰も超えられるわけないんですが。。。
言いたい放題言って御免なさい。
When japanese talks about musical arts, their ideas barely can reach to that of kobayashi hideo.
"When talking about art, the goal of old Japanese is Kobayashi Hideo. Although it can not be exceeded by anyone. . . I am sorry to say that you want to say." ???
二人の作曲家はお互いの宿敵だった
Das Fartwrangler
Beautiful, but it is not Brahms: it is Wagnerized Brahms.
you are displaying a poor understanding of furtwangler's approach to music.
Hanna MacLaine
No, I think I do understand F's approach very well: it is all about subjectivity, grandeur, intensity, and what the performer feels the intentions of the composer were, and the score is merely a combination of very general instructions. When you listen to F's own music (for instance, his symph nr 2) you hear the same: pumped-up gestures, intense melodic lines, bombastic climaxes over long stretches etc. But Brahms wrote his music in the tradition of Beethoven / Schubert / Schumann, not a very large orchestra but a relative small one i.e. small string group so that the balance with the small number of winds works much better in his polyphonic textures. There is much intensity in Brahms, but it can be brought-out with smaller forces and clearer sound and lighter gestures. To sound 'great', a conductor does not need 'big' forces. A Beethoven symphony with a classically-sized orchestra still sounds great - and clearer than a late-romantic-size orchestra.
now that you've explained a bit, i agree with you; i've kind of a vague antipathy towards wagner (i mean, consider how so many people ruined poor bruckner's day trying to get him to pump everything up). i think i have to accept that furtwangler is guilty of being a modern symphonist, but then, i think there's some virtue in what you called subjectivity. that is to say, i am glad music is not bound to being highly 'historically informed'. anyways, i feel like the recording -- state of the art at that time -- brings up the midrange a bit too much, so it seems even more overdone.
Hanna MacLaine
I agree that HIP (historically-informed performance) can be quite sterile and therefore unmusical.... The best performances are the ones, trying to keep to the score and the style of the period and in the same time, infusing the score with as much subjectivity as possible. That is not easy.
@John Borstlap Romantic composers works are not focused on a tempered soul, go to another music era for that ;-)
Art is subjective, you read the score and you give your interpretation, a unique self-expression of the score based on you culture and emotions . There is a obsession trend to the "absolute" fidelity to the score, it is overrated.
I like the Frank Sinatra cover of "Girl of Ipanema" over the original one and he sang it "absolute" out of the original one.
Typical overwrought Furtwangler.
Just listen to the Quartetto Italiano playing the same composer's Quartet in a minor to realise how boring and rough this Brahms playing is. In comparison this is just hopeless.
BORING????