Artists who HATED their own songs!!

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  • Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
  • The music a singer wants to make, and what their audience actually wants from them, does not necessarily always align. And usually because of pressure from record companies & managers, our favourite singers can oftentimes end up recording songs, they themselves aren’t all that keen on. A number of legends including Celine, Mariah, Cher and Toni Braxton weren’t too enamoured with the idea of singing some of these songs. And even though they didn’t like them to begin with, I’m sure they're all now very glad they were convinced otherwise.
    So which one of Mariah’s songs did she think was ‘schmaltzy’ and had to be persuaded to do? Why did the songwriter of ‘If I could turn back time’ have to plead with Cher to record the track? Why did Celine Dion reject ‘My heart Will Go On’ the first time she heard it? And what were Toni Braxton’s reasons for hating her biggest hit ‘Unbreak my heart?’ This mini documentary explores these questions and more.
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    Books I used for research in the video;
    The Meaning of Mariah Carey, Mariah Carey, 2020. amzn.to/43AGVIt
    Hitmaker; the Man and his Music, Tommy Mottola, 2013. amzn.to/44YduBf
    Unbreak My Heart, Toni Braxton, 2011. amzn.to/46W9y61
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    00:00 Introduction
    00:57 Mariah Carey
    04:08 Cher
    06:04 Celine Dion
    08:58 Toni Braxton
    Don’t forget to check out my last video about Gaga’s rise to stardom
    • How Lady Gaga changed ...

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  • @senju451
    @senju451 10 місяців тому +94

    Celine Dion turned down Unbreak my heart and Toni turned down Because you loved me. They switched songs and both became classics!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +17

      I heard that - the songs found their right homes in the end.

    • @CaptainAmerica-jw2xh
      @CaptainAmerica-jw2xh 9 місяців тому +2

      BOTH songs are AMAZINGLY BEAUTIFUL!! LOVE BOTH!

    • @Krobra91
      @Krobra91 9 місяців тому

      RUmor also has it celine pre recorded the song somewhere in the hidden vaults of sony music.. one day maybe we will hear it. @@jonnyharvey

    • @TyeArtisik
      @TyeArtisik 8 місяців тому

      Artists needs to wrote their own music

    • @Krobra91
      @Krobra91 8 місяців тому

      @@TyeArtisik some due Celine writes in her native French or her second language English

  • @rhaenyraitargaryen6360
    @rhaenyraitargaryen6360 9 місяців тому +42

    Mariah Carey's Hero is one of her not-so-vocally challenging songs (in her own standards) because she didn't intend to write the song for herself and was considerate of the intended singer's range and ability and yet I've seen a lot of singers struggle with that song. 😭

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +3

      I would imagine so - I can't think of many professional singers who'd be able to deliver that song.

    • @alanramos9302
      @alanramos9302 9 місяців тому +2

      No one could parallel her "Hero" live during 1996

  • @Mmcd_1
    @Mmcd_1 9 місяців тому +10

    Whitney Houston disliked Where Do Broken Hearts Go when hearing the demo, she said she didn’t like it and didn’t want to record it, but het manager clive davis insisted she did as he felt it was “hit material” she unwillingly recorded it and they released it as the 4th single from her second album which went number 1 and was her 7th consecutive number 1 hit that is a record that still stands today, the music video was also the video kevin costner saw which made him realise he wanted whitney for the bodyguard, whitney later said the song has grown on her and is now one of her favourites.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +3

      thanks for that - I think I read about that in Clive Davis' book.

  • @fadingnebulous
    @fadingnebulous 10 місяців тому +116

    Another diva who belongs in this pantheon is Tina Turner, who, believe it or not, was very resistant to recording “What’s Love Got to Do with It?” She thought it sounded too “white.” To be fair it was, but she added an oomph to it and well… we know how that went. Hard to believe, it’s her only No. 1 single as a solo artist.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +17

      yes that's true - I included that in my Tina Turner video a few weeks ago.

    • @Marc-zi5cq
      @Marc-zi5cq 10 місяців тому +17

      Oh interesting. To me actually it sounds more soulful and ''black'' than later songs like The Best which she loves. I always thought Tina didnt like it as it was more R&B and she saw herself as a Rock'n Roll singer. I never thought it sounded white tbh

    • @LuciferXFallen290
      @LuciferXFallen290 9 місяців тому +10

      That makes no sense. A song neither sounds black nor white. What she said was racist and ridiculous.

    • @marcusbrown465
      @marcusbrown465 9 місяців тому +1

      It was recorded by Bucks Fizz first, and sang by a male member of the group.

    • @siyancede5241
      @siyancede5241 9 місяців тому +1

      @@LuciferXFallen290You sound dumb! Stop deflecting your racism on black people by calling them racist because black people don’t have the power to be racist against white people. Saying it sounded white, means it attracts the white audience than the black one.

  • @hcent82
    @hcent82 9 місяців тому +6

    This reminded me of the song telephone that was supposed to be for Britney Spears but it was rejected (i guess by the studio) and it returned to its composer who was non other than Lady Gaga who kept the song for herself and included it in her debut album.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +3

      Oh yeah I heard that one

  • @weightycarlos
    @weightycarlos 10 місяців тому +33

    To be fair, My Heart Will Go On was different to the type of songs she did at that time. And this might sound trite, but I honestly think no one else could've sang it other than her.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +5

      It was a different song structure - it doesn’t have a chorus distinct from the rest of the song. It’s more like a lot of verses.

  • @reyaguilera11
    @reyaguilera11 9 місяців тому +57

    “Cher might’ve been making music since dinosaurs roamed the earth” damn 😂 you didn’t have to do her like that LMAO

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +19

      It’s a compliment - I’m trying to highlight her incredible longevity

    • @reyaguilera11
      @reyaguilera11 9 місяців тому +8

      @@jonnyharvey period! Long live Queen Cher

    • @rodolfopereira3552
      @rodolfopereira3552 9 місяців тому +1

      I was looking for THIS comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @TyeArtisik
      @TyeArtisik 8 місяців тому

      Ha

  • @aleksajankovic626
    @aleksajankovic626 10 місяців тому +27

    Dionne Warwick admitted in The Billboard Book of Number One Adult Contemporary Hits by Wesley Hyatt that she was not fond of "Heartbreaker" (regarding the song's international popularity, she quipped, "I cried all the way to the bank"), but recorded it because she trusted the Bee Gees' judgment that it would be a hit.

  • @scottgarbo1288
    @scottgarbo1288 10 місяців тому +31

    Great examples that music producers and 'executives' are in their jobs for a reason - they know what they're doing!! It's also refreshing to know that Cher cares about the songs she records. I always thought she let her producer(s) pick the songs for her.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +2

      Yes she has said in the past she’s not a big ‘Cher’ fan, which I found disappointing

  • @martius021
    @martius021 9 місяців тому +14

    Because You Loved Me first was offered to Toni but she refused it. Same happened with Celine who didn't want to record Unbreak My Heart. This ain't fake I watched interview with Toni when she mentioned that.

  • @bry6080
    @bry6080 10 місяців тому +83

    Wow! Celine Dion singing a song while sick still sounds a million times better than 99% of people.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +18

      yeah she was sick when she recorded the demo for MHWGO and that was the take the used for the song itself. So yes you're right

    • @kurischan7303
      @kurischan7303 10 місяців тому +3

      99%? I don’t think so. Lol

    • @bry6080
      @bry6080 10 місяців тому +4

      @@kurischan7303 I didn't mean 99% of trained singers. I meant regular people trying to sing. 😎

    • @Htx.lunatic
      @Htx.lunatic 10 місяців тому +8

      I think your meant 100%

    • @weightycarlos
      @weightycarlos 9 місяців тому +3

      @@kurischan7303 Yeah…100% sounds more accurate.

  • @divatalk9011
    @divatalk9011 10 місяців тому +124

    I think it's safe to say, if the artist doesn't like the song, it's guaranteed to be a hit 😂

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +13

      Yeah unless they're like Madonna who can/could spot a hit a mile away, it's best listen to the experts in the record companies

    • @LCO82
      @LCO82 10 місяців тому +5

      I think they were all too young to fully embrace or understand a cheesy ballad

    • @LCO82
      @LCO82 10 місяців тому +9

      @@jonnyharveywell, she hasn’t been able to spot one in the past decade 😂

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +9

      @@LCO82 yes perhaps, but her track record when it comes to hits is pretty much unparalleled.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011 10 місяців тому +6

      @@LCO82 To be fair, radio rarely supports older artists.

  • @MattWolfe1019
    @MattWolfe1019 9 місяців тому +5

    I once saw an interview here on UA-cam of Cher saying that she doesn't like any of her songs at all except for I Got You Babe. The reason why she said she loves I Got You Babe is because even though things didn't work out between her and her ex husband Sonny Bono at the time before he passed away she still loved him very much. The reason why she doesn't like the rest of her songs though is because she sings and performs for her fans and not herself. I actually really admire her for that considering that's what she said in the interview that I watched on here.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +2

      yes I've heard that too. She has said a few times, she's not a big 'Cher' fan. She did make an album in 2000 called 'not commercial' which she released through her website. I think she really likes rock music. I think?

  • @menaceiisociety669
    @menaceiisociety669 9 місяців тому +8

    This is more modern but apparently Summer Walker said she hated the lead single “Ex for a Reason” she said the pop sound was pushed by the label and she wanted to stick to a more contemporary R&B sound

  • @minimoto99
    @minimoto99 10 місяців тому +14

    I think most singers end up hating their first 'big' song. Often because they're forced to perform it all the time. I remember JLO saying she can't stand If You Had My Love.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +1

      I love that song

    • @unofficiallatinamericanist
      @unofficiallatinamericanist 10 місяців тому +25

      How could JLo hate that song when she didn’t even sing much of it? ;) ☠️

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +17

      @@unofficiallatinamericanist I was thinking that but then I thought I best not go there

    • @unofficiallatinamericanist
      @unofficiallatinamericanist 10 місяців тому +11

      @@jonnyharvey Lol you’re such a nice guy

    • @uilliamunknown4844
      @uilliamunknown4844 10 місяців тому +18

      “If I had the luxury of not actually having to sing my songs, I'd do that too.”

  • @Alikan8314
    @Alikan8314 9 місяців тому +9

    Mariah rejected her own song unlike others who rejected others. Just to remember that she is increíble like that.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +6

      yes good point - people forget that Mariah is a brilliant songwriter also.

  • @DibIrken
    @DibIrken 10 місяців тому +23

    Lesson: don't pitch a song to Celine by daring to sing said song to her.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +9

      If you're going to sing in front of Celine, you need to be pretty good.

    • @soundseeker63
      @soundseeker63 9 місяців тому +3

      But she only went and did that demo because she knew she could sing it better than the guy who wrote it. So actually it worked out perfectly!

  • @khayeelwilson-el5370
    @khayeelwilson-el5370 9 місяців тому +4

    Chaka Khan hated “I Feel For You”. Especially the rap at the beginning!

  • @jovrien
    @jovrien 10 місяців тому +16

    I have never thought I’d see the day I’d hear someone say the words Cher and dinosaurs in the same breath 😂💀 I CANNOT BREATHE 💀 I fucking love Cher, btw

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +7

      So do I - it’s a compliment. I was trying to highlight her longevity which is unparalleled. I’m wrong anyway - she’s been around since time began

  • @darknessislight3689
    @darknessislight3689 9 місяців тому +11

    Don’t forget about P!nk not liking any of her early songs (R&B-ish) hits. 🥺 I love her anyway ❤️😘

    • @mrsingleb
      @mrsingleb 9 місяців тому +7

      in my opinion, it was her best era

    • @darknessislight3689
      @darknessislight3689 9 місяців тому +2

      @@mrsingleb agree

    • @themirrorsofmymind
      @themirrorsofmymind 9 місяців тому +2

      _"LA (Reid) told me_
      _You'll be a pop star_
      _All you'll have to change_
      _Is everything you are..."_
      Funny enough, I was just listening to some of the songs from "Can't Take Me Home" and thinking, _"Oh yeah... I forgot how good this was."_

  • @thesuperself5320
    @thesuperself5320 10 місяців тому +10

    your channel is going to grow huge, keep doing what you’re doing!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +4

      Let’s hope so - thank you for the encouragement 😀😀

  • @BadBoi324
    @BadBoi324 9 місяців тому +2

    Coko from SWV actually hated recording "Weak." She said she was crying in the studio

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      I think I heard that before. Right Here is such a classic

    • @fedoramcclaren4294
      @fedoramcclaren4294 9 місяців тому

      Brian Alexander Morgan initially wrote "Weak" for Charlie Wilson, and he rejected it.
      It was supposedly written about Chante Moore, if I am not mistaken.

  • @LezzySarr
    @LezzySarr 10 місяців тому +10

    If I remember, Tammy Wynette initially disliked her song "Stand by your Man." It was written by Wynette and one of her producers. Tammy was not very fond of the song because it was unlike anything she had ever written before. As time went on, she later learned to embrace the song. It has since become one of her biggest and signature hits. Tammy Wynette was such an interesting figure in music.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +1

      I didn’t know that - thanks for sharing

  • @amornoro2076
    @amornoro2076 10 місяців тому +7

    Also dianne warren wrote for celine dion “i don’t want to miss a thing” by aerosmith and “there you’ll be” by faith hill. But celine dion didn’t like sing to another soundtracks at the times.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +2

      oh I didn't know that - I'm going to look into that.

    • @stoneprum
      @stoneprum 9 місяців тому +3

      Yes, Celine turned down both songs!

    • @Swahili14
      @Swahili14 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jonnyharveywhy did you forget The GREATEST VOCALIST OF ALL TIME? 💀
      She didn't like IWALY at first

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +1

      @@Swahili14 oh I don't remember that. I have Clive Davis's book - I'll take a look

    • @CDCPH582
      @CDCPH582 9 місяців тому

      Celine turned down There You'll Be because she was on a hiatus to have a babybat that time. Another trivia about Celine, Shania Twain wrote From This Moment and wanted Celine to sing it. Gloria Estefan's Heaven's What I Feel was originally recorded by Celine (yes you can even her remnants of Celine track in Gloria's version) for her Let's Talk About Love album but the song ended up on the chopping board.

  • @nocturne7371
    @nocturne7371 9 місяців тому +5

    I would like to know why Celine Dion refused to sing her Eurovision winning song Ne partez pas sans moi after Eurovision? I really like that song, but I as far as I know she never sung it in public again.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      Maybe she didn't want to be associated with the Eurovision at the time & wanted to be a solo superstar?The Eurovision was quite uncool for a very long time.

  • @anonimous9540
    @anonimous9540 10 місяців тому +12

    Britney Spears can't stand Sometimes and dislikes Outrageous, while some of her favourite songs are Toxic, Breathe On Me, Do Somethin', Piece Of Me and Radar.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +4

      Oh I didn’t know that - I will have to google it

    • @fanstastic83
      @fanstastic83 10 місяців тому +1

      Outrageous is dire, but Sometimes is one of my personal favorites

  • @mmdcdj
    @mmdcdj 9 місяців тому +1

    Another great video 😊

  • @user-id5er4hz8d
    @user-id5er4hz8d 9 місяців тому +4

    This has the potential to be a series truly 😅 there’s also the opposite that could be fun: executives who were not convinced of the potential impact, but the singer and team really stood for it and it became huge. One example is Kate Bush’s ‘Wuthering Heights’.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      thanks sb else suggested that - I will have to look into it.

    • @blackbeauty5717
      @blackbeauty5717 8 місяців тому

      ​@jonnyharvey because of you kelly
      Fantasy mariah

  • @Dr__Feelgood
    @Dr__Feelgood 9 місяців тому +2

    TBH, without being attached to the Titanic movie, I don't think "My Heart Will Go On" would have even been worthy of being a single. It was already then the tailend of the era of the 80s/90s power ballads as hiphop/R&B were about to take over the pop music landscape. I can also see why even for Celine, it sounded too maudlin & old-fashioned, besides not having a radio-friendly hook. It was just all about OTT melodrama that just happened to represent the intense, tragic love story in the center of one of the biggest movies of all time. It simply rode that huge, emotional wave to the top as luck would have it.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +1

      that's interesting. It was the tail-end of the big 80s/90s power-ballad. There really weren't many after that. Maybe Faith Hill 'There You'll be' in 2002. Nowhere near as big though.

  • @deathballad
    @deathballad 10 місяців тому +9

    Make It Happen > Hero

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah that’s cool - each to their own. MIH is more upbeat.

  • @TheIdotalmor
    @TheIdotalmor 10 місяців тому +3

    Thank you! It’s an interesting video and you’re very pleasant and informative 🙏🏻

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому

      Thanks 😀😀🙏🙏

  • @manfromrome7710
    @manfromrome7710 9 місяців тому +2

    I would love to hear Celine's version of Unbreak My Heart!!!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +2

      I don’t think she got to the point of recording it - maybe I’m wrong?

    • @manfromrome7710
      @manfromrome7710 9 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey AI would do for me.

  • @lucasgehres
    @lucasgehres 10 місяців тому +5

    Great video! It's not a obvious list of situations that everyone already knows (Madonna's Like a Virgin, etc). Keep up with the great job ~

  • @jbjjbb
    @jbjjbb 9 місяців тому +9

    If everyone in your music circle loves the song except you, it should be a single and will be a hit. People have perceptions of themselves that others don't.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +1

      yes sometime you need advice from ppl who have an outside perspective.

  • @DennisTheInternationalMenace
    @DennisTheInternationalMenace 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video. I love videos like this.

  • @jaishannon5510
    @jaishannon5510 9 місяців тому +3

    its been said that Tina Turner didn't want whats love got to do with it and had to get talked into it by her manager

  • @blurdreamer
    @blurdreamer 9 місяців тому +5

    It proved a lot talented singers, they don’t really know what best for them, it always need the other equal or higher authority person to give them a kick to make some classic song happen

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      they don't always know what's best for them. Choosing hits is a talent in itself and surprisingly a lot of singers don't have it

  • @kandefer55
    @kandefer55 9 місяців тому +1

    I heard in an interview, My heart will go on that we listen is the demo version of the song. She never did it again. Cause she hated it so much and she wasn’t feeling good that day.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +1

      oh yeah I heard that too. That's what a brilliant vocalist she is.

  • @bry6080
    @bry6080 10 місяців тому +8

    Unbreak my ❤️ is literally one of the best songs of all time & one of the funnest to sing. I sing it at least once a week. Of course, I don't sound anything like Miss Braxton. 😳

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +3

      It would be hard to pull off vocally

  • @dogbreathmints
    @dogbreathmints 8 місяців тому +2

    Good vid. Recently I also liked his exclusive vid about by Tina Turner & her comeback, and how she hated her big hit at first on her on admission. JHarvey did that one video well too!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks - I did a video on Tina a few weeks ago & included that story so that was probably why I left it out. Can’t remember why now. And I didn’t want to do more than four stories cause the videos take a lot of time & effort

    • @dogbreathmints
      @dogbreathmints 8 місяців тому

      OIC..well thanks for your enjoyable time and effort in this vid! It's really good. @@jonnyharvey

  • @hughw2377
    @hughw2377 10 місяців тому +13

    I could argue Without You is Mariah's biggest hit on Music Box than Hero

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +2

      Did I say Hero was the biggest hit off Music Box?

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +6

      "Of course Hero went on to become a mega hit, her 8th number one in America and was one of the main reasons its’ parent album ’93’s Music Box went on to sell almost 30 million copies, making it one of the biggest selling albums ever. " Where did I say it was the biggest hit from the album?

    • @hughw2377
      @hughw2377 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@jonnyharvey3:43

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +4

      @@hughw2377 I checked that part a second time. I never said it was the biggest hit from the album. I said what I pasted above.

    • @MaleOrderBride
      @MaleOrderBride 9 місяців тому +4

      You are wrong, Hugh 😊

  • @MaraKapso
    @MaraKapso 9 місяців тому +1

    We can also say that marketing the product also contributes with the success of the song regardless of who sings it. But all the singers here are very pleasing to the ear and the songs actually do well with their range and style with the exception of Mariah Carey who is able to do so many things with her voice and range and Hero is not a challenging song for her. Overall this was great information as a singer and song writer myself although I cannot be compare with the talent of these women. Thank you Jonny.

  • @CaptainAmerica-jw2xh
    @CaptainAmerica-jw2xh 9 місяців тому +2

    Of the 4 songs mentioned, the best ones are: Hero and Un-break My Heart. Don't like: My Heart Will Go On.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      yeah that's cool- everyone hears music differently.

  • @suhailaljady270
    @suhailaljady270 9 місяців тому +2

    how can someone hate a song and manage to vocally thrill us like Toni and Celine did?? They are lying!!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      that's how talented vocally they are.

  • @Listening4n0w
    @Listening4n0w 9 місяців тому +1

    I HATE unbreak my heart, and it is nowhere near being Toni's best song! She was right about it being corny! I wouldn't call it Disney because I love a lot of Disney songs. Anyway, Toni's best songs: Seven Whole Days, Love Shoulda Brought Home, Let It Flow, Another Sad Love Song, Please, Wasn't Man Enough For Me... I'm a fan of Toni, she did an amazing job with a song I HATE!
    Another song I HATE is, I Will Always Love You! I wish my all time favorite singer Whitney "The Voice" Houston never sang that song! They act like it's the only song her BEAUTIFUL voice ever sang!

  • @jasperordrup
    @jasperordrup 9 місяців тому +3

    Great stories! I would love to hear ubersit stories too. Where the artist insisted recording a song that anyone else thought was a bad idea but also went into a mega hit!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +1

      oh that's an interesting idea - I'm trying to think of some. Usually the label have the final say, so it's usually the other way around (I think).

    • @fedoramcclaren4294
      @fedoramcclaren4294 9 місяців тому +1

      Berry Gordy was adamant about Marvin Gaye not releasing the album "What's Going On" on Motown Records.
      He wanted him to record more pop oriented songs, and Marvin rejected that idea, releasing one of the most groundbreaking albums ever in music history.
      Berry Gordy has since realised how much of a mistake it would have been if he never released that album.

  • @hyperballadbradx6486
    @hyperballadbradx6486 10 місяців тому +7

    I usually end up really disliking the songs that the artists get exhausted of too
    I'm a big Madonna fan and almost never listen to Material Girl and Like A Virgin.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +3

      I don’t listen to them much anymore - used to listen to them all the time when I first got into her

    • @fanstastic83
      @fanstastic83 10 місяців тому +3

      I can't stand Hung up

    • @hyperballadbradx6486
      @hyperballadbradx6486 10 місяців тому

      @@fanstastic83 good shout. I think Hung Up is pop perfection, but I always start COAD at Track 2 🤣🙌🏻

    • @harborsadolescentfears9322
      @harborsadolescentfears9322 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@hyperballadbradx6486Two songs from Madonna that I will never get tired.... Secret and Take a Bow. ❤❤❤❤

  • @scrltts
    @scrltts 10 місяців тому +4

    Hey! Can you please a video about sinead o'connor? since she passed away (may she rest in peace). That would be interesting

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +1

      I really admired Sinead. Her voice was astonishing. What angle should I take on it, if I do a video?

  • @AdnanZManjal
    @AdnanZManjal 10 місяців тому +4

    The Diane Warren documentary you mentioned, Songbook. Can’t find it anywhere. Where did you watch it?

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +2

      Good question- I saw the reference on Wikipedia or some article. It was a Sky Documentary & I looked up Sky Now and it wasn't on it. I couldn't find it on UA-cam. If you ever do, let me know.

    • @AdnanZManjal
      @AdnanZManjal 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jonnyharvey that would be a great documentary to watch

  • @blackbull84
    @blackbull84 9 місяців тому +1

    I’m glad Toni had a hit off of Unbreak My Heart, but I just feel bad that it wasn’t enough to keep her from facing a fate of filing for bankruptcy while peaking at that time.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah I wonder what really happened there. It’s strange it happened with two laface acts - Toni & TLC

    • @fedoramcclaren4294
      @fedoramcclaren4294 9 місяців тому

      This is where songwriting is important for residual income.
      Most of the hit songs from TLC and Toni were not written by them.
      To my knowledge, Lisa Lopes was the one who had most songwriting credit within the group TLC. Most of their songs were written by Dallas Austin and Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds.
      Many of Toni's songs were written by Babyface as well.

  • @alisaleh3677
    @alisaleh3677 10 місяців тому +3

    omg i love how salty u are no tea all shade 😂😂love your videos

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +1

      how do you mean? Thanks... I think?

  • @lansesteiner3563
    @lansesteiner3563 9 місяців тому +3

    Tina Turner hated “What’s Love Got To Do With It”

  • @serfranklin6022
    @serfranklin6022 9 місяців тому +3

    Mariah hates her own "I don't wanna cry" and "Someday" with a passion, and also one of the few song she didn't write, "Almost home".

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +1

      oh I didn't know that. I will look into it.

    • @serfranklin6022
      @serfranklin6022 9 місяців тому

      Also, Whitney Houston hated "Where do broken hearts go", Clive Davis had to pray to convince her to give it a go and record it. I think it grew on her a little bit over time.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      @@serfranklin6022 thanks for this - I read that in Clive Davis's book.

  • @gonzaalinn
    @gonzaalinn 9 місяців тому +2

    Britney Spears hates "Sometimes" 🥺

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +1

      Oh yeah I heard that - I think she said it by accident at a concert

  • @davidgardiner4720
    @davidgardiner4720 9 місяців тому

    Which only goes to prove that just because a song is a big hit doesn't mean it isn't a terrible song.

  • @renatogenesjosejr.8843
    @renatogenesjosejr.8843 10 місяців тому +3

    If it's for you , it's for you. ! Destiny.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому

      Yes I definitely think fate plays a part IMHO.

  • @Tebogojm87
    @Tebogojm87 9 місяців тому +3

    Diana Ross hated the hit “Baby Love” by The Supremes

  • @feridedogan7653
    @feridedogan7653 9 місяців тому +1

    I heared once that celine and toni switched their songs.bec actually my heart will go on was wrote for toni and unbreak my heart for celine. Im glad they switched the songs.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      oh it was 'because you loved me' & 'unbreak my heart' which were swapped. They were both written by the same songwriter.

    • @feridedogan7653
      @feridedogan7653 9 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey i see thx for the info . Maybe i remind the Info wrong.

  • @ballybunion9
    @ballybunion9 9 місяців тому +1

    Elvis didn't hate Hound Dog, but he didn't particularly like it, either. In fact, several times _on stage_ he called the song "silly," and he usually just sleepwalked his way through the song in concert.

  • @CharlesJohnson-ui2pk
    @CharlesJohnson-ui2pk 9 місяців тому +1

    I’m shocked by the “UNBREAK MY HEART “Rejection.

  • @mizzjacquettaxx6974
    @mizzjacquettaxx6974 9 місяців тому +1

    Left Eye from TLC clearly didn’t like “creep” song either. I don’t blame her at all.

  • @babyboylovesmusic
    @babyboylovesmusic 9 місяців тому +4

    I still do not like that "My Heart Will Go On" song. I just can't get with it.

    • @seth7712
      @seth7712 9 місяців тому

      My opinion is that it only sounds good in the movie built with an orchestra. Studio and live versions don't really cut it for me..... and that's from someone whom Celine Dion is my all-time favorite singer. She deserves to be known for so much more than that ONE song from a movie soundtrack, much less her French catalogue which is amazing

  • @73lyfe96
    @73lyfe96 9 місяців тому +2

    SWV's Coko initially didn't like Weak

  • @FameMonster-yp1et
    @FameMonster-yp1et 8 місяців тому +1

    Britney -Sometimes
    Lady Gaga -Telephone

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  8 місяців тому +1

      Yes I heard those stories

  • @alanramos9302
    @alanramos9302 9 місяців тому +1

    Mariah Carey doesn't like "I Don't Wanna Cry", "Forever" and "Hero"(at first).

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      I think heard that about Don’t Wanna Cry

  • @ruicastro7930
    @ruicastro7930 9 місяців тому +1

    Mariah also hates "i dont wanna cry" and "someday".

  • @tmla
    @tmla 9 місяців тому +1

    Can u do a video on Celine Dion? Would love to hear

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      What angle should I take?

    • @irinagasson9817
      @irinagasson9817 9 місяців тому

      Maybe how her voice lasted for decades and include different performances through the years of the same song? Something powerful like “All by myself” or “Think Twice” or my favourite “The Reason”? Thanks

  • @jeraldisme
    @jeraldisme 9 місяців тому

    You forgot to mention that the demo Céline recorded was used for the movie. She didnt record the song again until she used it on her own album, Let's Talk About Love

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      I chose not to include that information. It's all over the internet & I couldn't include everything or I'd never finish the video or any of my videos. I would deem that info essential if I was doing the story of the video, which I wasn't.

  • @cristopherjordan4089
    @cristopherjordan4089 9 місяців тому +1

    Celine😍

  • @theshypersistence
    @theshypersistence 9 місяців тому +3

    Damn, everyone hating on Dianne Warren. She really has to werk to get artists to record her songs 😅😂🤣

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +4

      I know - and she’s one of the most successful songwriters ever

    • @73lyfe96
      @73lyfe96 8 місяців тому +1

      I love Xscape's The Arm of the one who loves you, written by Diane. LaTocha recently says she doesn't like singing it.

  • @c.t.4837
    @c.t.4837 9 місяців тому +6

    I kind of think it’s a “trend” for these artists to say that they hate their biggest hit

    • @DiamondsRexpensive
      @DiamondsRexpensive 9 місяців тому +9

      Imagine being them, being asked to sing that song everywhere, anytime, any day and you only sing that song cuz it got you paid. It's like eating the same thing you hate forever. Yuck.

  • @jrgnc1
    @jrgnc1 9 місяців тому

    My Heart Will Go On was way overplayed back then. It was played so much it was nauseating.

  • @MsJP
    @MsJP 9 місяців тому +1

    Barry manilow didn't like
    "I write the song"he said this on arsenio Hall show

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      Oh I didn’t know that - thanks for sharing

    • @MsJP
      @MsJP 9 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey
      Ur welcome 🤗

  • @thelasttrumpet2915
    @thelasttrumpet2915 9 місяців тому

    Creep by Radiohead. Their biggest hit, but they don’t particularly like it as a group, including their singer who wrote it.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      yeah I think I read that. I don't know much about Radiohead tbh

  • @Andthereitiss
    @Andthereitiss 10 місяців тому +12

    I never liked Hero so I agree with young Mariah. I much prefer her other hit singles.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +8

      I don’t listen to it much now but I was obsessed with it as a kid/teenager. I couldn’t stop playing it

  • @tjwash5118
    @tjwash5118 9 місяців тому +1

    Alternate title, music stars understood our dismay

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      😂 I love those songs but I do appreciate they're not for everyone.

    • @tjwash5118
      @tjwash5118 9 місяців тому

      Sorry, I thought you didn’t like them. A couple I didn’t hate, some I tolerated, some I hated 😊

  • @marcoleocata9398
    @marcoleocata9398 9 місяців тому +2

    Kesha hates her own album Warrior because of Dr Luke

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      oh I think I read that - thanks

  • @user-bn2vv5so9m
    @user-bn2vv5so9m 9 місяців тому +3

    Madonna hated material girl like a virgin and Holiday

  • @alijazuli5838
    @alijazuli5838 9 місяців тому +3

    SWV with Weak single
    Tina Turner with What's love got to do with it

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      yeah I heard about Tina

    • @dogbreathmints
      @dogbreathmints 8 місяців тому

      He's done an exclusive vid about Tina. Def worth watching

  • @pjesf
    @pjesf 9 місяців тому

    Toni B would have had a lot less money to waste had she not recorded “Unbreak”

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +2

      she didn't write the song but I'm sure she's earned a lot from it over the years.

  • @ttban1988
    @ttban1988 10 місяців тому +2

    An other example is Beyoncé with single ladies she hasn't say it but she didn't performe it in her formation world tour, on the run tour and renaissance world tour

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +2

      It’s very radio jingle-y. I do like the song but I can understand how it would get on your nerves.

    • @vibeology9432
      @vibeology9432 9 місяців тому

      I think that’s because nobody wants to hear it. It’s not a classic. It’s very 2008. Beyoncé has done far better songs before and after. Single ladies is as basic white bread as one can get for a hit.

    • @TobiasSaibot87
      @TobiasSaibot87 9 місяців тому

      I never liked the song asSingle Ladies does come off as a 'Get Me Bodied' pt 2

  • @sushitunaegg
    @sushitunaegg 9 місяців тому +1

    Madonna hated Material Girl song as well

  • @monsterzan1072
    @monsterzan1072 9 місяців тому

    You pronounced “often” the correct way, while most native Eng speakers pronounce it with the T included. It shouldn’t be.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      oh thanks for that. I'm sure you're right. Now that you mention it, I don't hear it very much with the 'T' included.

  • @3407
    @3407 10 місяців тому +2

    reminds me of Radiohead with their song Creep.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому

      They didn’t like Creep? I didn’t know that.

    • @3407
      @3407 9 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey yeah, and at some point they never played it live except on a few occasions.
      they thought it overshadowed their other works which isn't completely wrong. however they seem to have gotten over it in the last few years.

  • @BoDray
    @BoDray 10 місяців тому +1

    I realate

  • @lordgaga27
    @lordgaga27 9 місяців тому +2

    Love Gloria. But Mariah's hero, for her?...urghhh

  • @Franniiv3
    @Franniiv3 10 місяців тому +4

    Was Mimi insinuating that Gloria Estefan, who also writes and composes her own music; was 'White Bread' ...Diva please! xo

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +7

      I’m sure she wasn’t. Mariah was only 22 at the time. It was probably too traditional for her

    • @Franniiv3
      @Franniiv3 10 місяців тому +2

      @@jonnyharvey hehe true, though for the time I think the song would have been great for someone like Taylor Dayne, if Mimi had indeed intended it to be performed by another Singer. It would have been cute if Mariah and Gloria performed it together at Divas Live 98', as a little ode to that.

    • @qbennett7232
      @qbennett7232 10 місяців тому +5

      She said the song was white bread not Gloria stop being thirsty for drama

    • @Franniiv3
      @Franniiv3 10 місяців тому

      @@qbennett7232 Calm down, it was just a joke, why is everyone so serious! Music should be fun, quit spoiling it! I love both Mimi and Glo!

    • @BozeDoesGodsWork
      @BozeDoesGodsWork 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Franniiv3Wait what does white bread mean again? I haven’t heard that term in a long time and I never quite understood it 🤣

  • @sept.ober_5067
    @sept.ober_5067 10 місяців тому +3

    I absolute loath Unbreak my heart

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +4

      I enjoy it but I get it’s a bit mawkish

    • @jovrien
      @jovrien 10 місяців тому +2

      It sounds like a porn background music idk that’s the vibes I get from it

    • @Danniidude
      @Danniidude 10 місяців тому +1

      You’re making me high is where it’s truly at!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +2

      @@Danniidude I love that song!! I bought it when I was 12 & I genuinely had no idea how explicit the lyrics were

    • @Danniidude
      @Danniidude 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jonnyharvey same! I listened to it again recently and clutched my pearls!!! 🤣

  • @blackbeauty5717
    @blackbeauty5717 8 місяців тому +1

    These songs are mega hits. But i agree with mariah that these songs are generic lyrically

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  8 місяців тому

      I guess you need something reasonably simple to appeal to the masses

  • @abs..
    @abs.. 9 місяців тому

    C/o to #Rollingstone

  • @7MonarC
    @7MonarC 9 місяців тому +1

    Since dinosaurs roamed the earth hahahaha

  • @maxaldebaran742
    @maxaldebaran742 9 місяців тому +1

    Chaka Khan did not feel recording I'm Every Woman.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +1

      Oh I didn't know that

    • @maxaldebaran742
      @maxaldebaran742 9 місяців тому +1

      She said in an interview that the song was too huge for her and at the time she was asked to record it, she felt too boastful to utter "I'm every woman". But time passed and the essence of the song had grown in her and then she finally understood it.

  • @MasonThomas_yt
    @MasonThomas_yt 9 місяців тому +4

    JoJo didn't at all like "leave get out"

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +1

      I love that song!!! Pop perfection.

    • @MasonThomas_yt
      @MasonThomas_yt 9 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey I'm working on a deep dive into her. Editing however lol 🤣 is rough. Any recommendations for a newbie?

  • @ghost_emre_a7710
    @ghost_emre_a7710 9 місяців тому

    What about Like A Virgin by Madonna?

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      it was covered in quite a few video so I thought I'd leave it out.

  • @ConsciencepartyUSA
    @ConsciencepartyUSA 10 місяців тому +3

    I’m pretty sure there’s some men that turned down some songs too right? Or were women just way better singers than men? That they only gave good songs for women to sing? 😆

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +2

      Yes you’re right - I’m sure they are quite a few. But I’m a much bigger fan of female singers so I’ve come across more examples.

    • @ConsciencepartyUSA
      @ConsciencepartyUSA 10 місяців тому +2

      @@jonnyharvey well, it’s never too late to start a new one for male artists though right? 😆 you don’t have to if you don’t want to I’m just saying.

  • @KraXoom
    @KraXoom 9 місяців тому

    But why you gotta come for Chers age like that 😂

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      I didn't - I meant it as a compliment. I was trying to emphasise her incredible longevity.

  • @RicardoAng
    @RicardoAng 10 місяців тому +15

    Mariah was also not keen on recording a Christmas album. Tommy Mottola truly knew what was best for her career, yet so many of her (ungrateful) “Lambs” hate him to this day.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +4

      yeah I heard she didn't want to do the Xmas album

    • @garyowens777
      @garyowens777 10 місяців тому +29

      Well he did mentally and physically abuse her then he tried to cancel her career do your research or read her book

    • @WillBryanishereaf
      @WillBryanishereaf 10 місяців тому +17

      it was mariah that knew best for her career first and foremost. praising that man without realizing that he basically tried to control every aspect of her life and abused her is beyond ignorant. he tried damaging her career too, that's not a man you should praise

    • @LuisVilaMX
      @LuisVilaMX 9 місяців тому +1

      He also had the machinery to make anything a hit.

    • @shargreen9950
      @shargreen9950 9 місяців тому

      not y’all praising the very man that abused mariah 💀… us “ungrateful” fans have every right to hate him because he took away her twenties. f*ck off.

  • @gerardogalvan4316
    @gerardogalvan4316 9 місяців тому

    You forgot Madonna and Like a Virgin. She hated to sing it live

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому

      I was going to include that but I thought everyone already knew about M's dislike of LAV(the song)

    • @thelasttrumpet2915
      @thelasttrumpet2915 9 місяців тому

      It must have been difficult for her. To fake it I mean.

  • @Mang523
    @Mang523 8 місяців тому

    That means sometimes we still need another people. In thia case, singers need great producers to support them. Tommy motolla & Clive davis are the best producers ever, who can think out of the box. Even Clive davis spent 2 years with whitney houston (1983-85) before he made her first album

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  8 місяців тому

      Clive Davis has golden ears - great at picking hits

  • @stringer-ik1pc
    @stringer-ik1pc 9 місяців тому +3

    They should be grateful to the people who wrote the songs.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  9 місяців тому +1

      it is kinda disrespectful to the songwriters. Not in Mariah's case of course cause she was the songwriter.