Season one of this show will forever be cemented in my mind as one of the greatest shows I've ever seen. It's almost like an 8 hour movie, I couldn't stop thinking about it for weeks
Was actually probably inspired by a moment in the comic series Top 10. It's a police procedural in a city where everyone has some degree of superpowers or gadgetry.
Taken with the theme of alcoholism, too, it becomes even more optimistic. The point of being alcoholic is that one little drink almost inevitably leads to all-out drinking, and by analogy, that one little point of light foretells an inevitable bender of light.
I used to like it, but then I thought about how before the big bang everything was beyond light and now the universe is getting darker and darker as everything rushes away from everything else.
I live in the SE Louisiana area. I’d like to point out that there are cold case of prostitutes murdered in the 70s 80s and 90s. Then a certain sheriff died and the murders stopped. May have inspired the writer.
I commented this earlier, but this is also quite similar to the Boys Town incident, with the governor and several churches/foster programs being involved. I believe this was in Oklahoma
Part of me hates that they didn't continue their story into the next season, but another part of me is glad. The longer a good story goes on the tendency is for it to fall flat or tank.
I hope they never continue it. It's perfect because it ended. If they even mention anything that happens after the ending, I personally think it will only take away from the show. The ending dealt with the hope that their cycle would break, so if they continued their story somehow... well, like it's said in the show, then things really do happen again. And again. And again.
Marty and rust are kinda realistic friends. The “i cannot believe I have to work with this asshole.” Dynamic. Makes that scene of them talking of what they’ve been doing since the fight hit hard
I watched it already on bitchute and loved it, you did this series justice. True detective has everything I love. A southern gothic setting, lovecraftian inspired elements, interesting crime mystery, and flawed characters. I absolutely love this show and will forever consider it (atleast the first season) to be my favorite of all time. Thank you so much for talking about this series, I'm gonna watch it for the 5th time now, thanks loli.
I can't get into crime thrillers like this cause I get so invested that I have to find out what happens and spoil it by googling what happens to all the characters or making guesses on who the murderer is (usually is a person or company mentioned in ep 1 of these types) and I just can't watch em lmao Even fargo I found myself fast forwarding through scenes of all the characters I didn't care about 🤣 What makes this show different from say fargo or reacher or similar shows? How does it have love craftian horror ? Fargo was kind of like that in a newer season with a UFO but no answers came about it other then the fargo area gets lots of ufo sightings 😂
@@andrew-rn9ui watch it and find out. Season 1 is widely considered to be one of the greatest pieces put to a screen. Theres only a few characters and its relatively short-- only being 8 hours long. But man not a second is wasted.
I always felt that Cole was “sensitive”. That the drugs simply emphasized his feeling that the world wasn’t quite right. Like when he talked about the town being a memory of a place. It made sense that he saw the genuinely otherworldly vision at the end, as this was a world he was brushing up against.
The Yellow King is an entity that lives in another dimension, another world, in an ancient city called Carcosa. He is an unimaginable horror that the human mind cannot comprehend. The Tuttle Cult worships him and tortures/sacrifices children in his name. They do this because they think one day they will be able to go to Carcosa and be servants of the Yellow King. That’s why the old black lady they interview says “death is not the end”. At the end of season 1, Rust Cohle catches a glimpse into that dimension when he’s in Childress’s lair.
The inverted cop buddy trope? Yeah, smashed right into an existential void. Almost every verbal exchange between Marty and Rust is barbed and cutting. Hostility is always brewing. It's a thing of beauty. LOL When their friendship reaches it's epic crash and burn, Rust finally drops him a compliment. "Nice hook, Marty." The writing is just devastatingly badass.
And its all completely plagiarized. Thats part of WHY the later seasons failed. Rust’s character is cribbed almost entirely from some anti-natalist philosophy book Pizzolatto read in college. Doesnt make the show less awesome, but it does make Pizzolatto more of a hack than you’d think
I love the Rust interrogation scenes. He was brutal when he acted warm towards Charmaine (who killed her own baby) then completely pulls the plug by telling her she should kill herself at the first opportunity, then walks out of the room. As a person that leans toward pessimism (so I'm not disappointed yet again) I loved Rust's outlook.
Its something that is overlooked or denied in our day of false morality and shallow virtue. We have strong laws but the weakest executives and people who take there safety so for granted the idea of defunding the police and abolishing prisons is treated as if it's a viable and sober proposal and not that of an idiot or a liar and a power hungry politician seeking to eliminate the greatest obstacle to implementing a socialist agenda by force. Nearly a century makes it plain anywhere they can't simply overthrow the police by force the calls for defunding begin. Socialism 101 nothing original. The police are a rather sad group on the whole anyway they don't make much and are vilified by much of our culture, standards have been cut for decades for numerous reasons and it shows. Many departments are forced to hire people who they never would have considered simply to get bodies on the street, they have no way to compete for the best and the brightest young people and from the already meager pool the least able are promoted to leadership positions for many reasons least of which is merit and this is largely to thank for the rise of activist cops and DA undermining they're departments from within whether intentionally or simply the demoralization that sets in anywhere incompetents and ideologues are in leadership. The crime problem in America is largely one of refusal to accept reality because its mean or the facts are uncomfortable and thus must be spun and skewed by those in power and academia and most especially the media who insist reality is what they say it is even though they have to engage in deliberate lying, suppression, manipulating statistics etc. Its a false humanity that refuses to do what is necessary in order to cling to comforting delusions and theories about rehabilitation and human nature. Or rather to cling to what serves they're political and corporate agendas. A fraction of the manpower and technology could largely eliminate crime especially serious offenses and it would involve a fraction of the human suffering but because of the squeamishness and self righteousness of many people who know nothing about how to protect society or the criminal mind we continue to flail about at the leaves of evil rather than striking at the root.
You forgot to mention one moment where it's also left ambiguous if there's actual supernatural stuff happening. When Cohle reaches the Carcosa church, that's the exact moment his hallucinations kick in and he sees a spiraling black hole on the skies above. Some people theorize that drugs alter your perception in a way it makes you aware of different dimensions. I don't necessarily believe that but I think the showrunners were going for that vibe when they made that scene, the idea that Cohle may or may not have tapped into dark forces associated with Carcosa and its evil cult.
I’m gonna be totally honest. I way prefer it to be actually supernatural instead of it just being the drugs. It elevates the story to a whole new level.
Well, it's definitely made clear that Rust and Marty are in over their heads... fighting an evil they can't fully grasp. I always thought that the "Yellow King" was some malevolent being manipulating events from afar (Marty shooting ledoux, Marty cheating again, Cops trying to arrest Rust) to keep that evil functional and secret. It eventually fails which ties back into the final quote "You ask me, the light is winning".
Its sometimes called “permatripping” being in a constant semi-hallucinatory state due to excessive hallucinogen abuse. Synesthesia is a potential symptom. I disagree that the supernatural is explicitly real in this series. It could be, but there is no legitimate evidence to support the conclusion
@@DarranKern And you're... looking for legitimate evidence... of unprovable phenomena? Can you not just apply some theory of mind here and note that from the meta of the writer's own choices, it's meant to be a valid interpretation based upon many earmarks of how the supernatural implications are regularly presented to the audience, without one of the detectives always defaulting to that conclusion as if they believed the theory and it had been obfuscating their judgment? I'm getting some "most of the skeptics in the comments section don't read, like, books" vibes here.
@@ConsciousExpression Lol what? How does that work? If season 2 story was a continuation of season 1 story, I'd agree with you. Same way that Game of Thrones as a whole was completely tarnished by the final season.. but True Detective season 1 and 2 have absolutely nothing to do with each other. So season 2 should not impact season 1 at all.
Louisiana being the setting also probably had to do with the call of cthulhu. Cops stopped a pagan ritual in the bayou and the protagonist dug up the records found by his uncle in New Orleans. Also it does make for great spooky settings with the cemeteries and the famous house that the family had flayed their slaves and buried them alive in the walls. You know, just normal wholesome stuff.
There was also a real school/church that was caught doing a weird occult murder ring In Louisiana. Can’t remember the name off the top of my head. A similar thing was the Franklin coverup.
I adore how, the Resident Evil 7 save room theme which is great in it's own right, all of this video's soundtrack is SH2. God tier OST to fit to this GOD tier show
That save room theme is so .. idk something about it just can't explain it. Like re4 they both have a feeling of peace combined with vulnerability I think
Thanks to this video I just binged the entire first season on my off night. I stopped before I got to the spoiler section. Also fun fact, in Call of Cthulhu there's a specific reference to a police raid on a voodoo cult in Louisiana. Further inspiration most likely
Season 2 really tried for something different and season 3 tried to recapture the feelings, but season 1 will always hold a unique place in my heart above all the other drunk cop shows.
@@parkerhuff9995 Indeed. If anything the title 'true detective' almost becomed an impediment to the story in season two and three. Lots of supernatural elements or forced interview scenes were not necessary for season two. And season three, well, they did not need to lock in to just two detectives and did not need to make the case unreasonably surreal.
@@johnnyboy2537 Honestly, what finally made me lose my enjoyment for the second season was the ending, because if the finish was stronger, then maybe the rest of the low points might have been worth it, but nope. Season 3, however, was a major improvement and imo isnt that far away from being as good as the first season.
As an enjoyer of cosmic horror and someone who read and was familiar with King in Yellow long before the show ever existed, True Detective season 1 holds a special place in my heart. It's one of the most grounded examples of how horror can intersect with the idea of drama and a couple of scenes just really drove that home in such a beautifully dark way. It's the mundaneness of life that Cole regularly argues about contrasted with the events of the final episode and how it changes him as a person.
"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward then, brother, that person is a piece of s***. And I’d like to get as many of them out in the open as possible. You gotta get together and tell yourself stories that violate every law of the universe just to get through the goddamn day? What’s that say about your reality?" -Rust Cohle
It's a good breakdown of his perspective, but it should also be kept in mind that this chain of thinking is explicitly a weapon against well-meaning people. Should a good man have to suffer while never expecting anything for his trouble? While those of moral disinterest, or outright evil practice, live easier lives? Were you a God, what would be your excuse for knowing the plight of the loving father taken by cancer while you watched on? Would you then be a God with no empathy? No sympathy? Were you just a man, would you watch that loving father die and never tend to his grave, nor visit his family? If you did so, what would it mean to you when that man's lowly brother, absent for his life and death, implied you were just doing it for attention? There is the woeful casket of the well-meaning man; you and he both lie within it, dead before the eyes of those who refuse to understand basic empathy, whose only goodwill is toward their own purposes and lazy comforts of being. The world of that woeful casket is what you beggar when you believe the good man is beneath ever deserving an ounce of favoritism. Of course good people get rewarded; they're the only ones explicitly defined by seeking virtuous purpose _that can be taken as_ worthy of rewards outside of the rules. The only ones stopping everyone from being good, are they themselves, spitting in the eye of the well-meaning by saying "You'd be just like me, just exactly like I am, if you didn't think there was something waiting for you." Good isn't held as a virtuous principle because people think it's more profitable; it's taken because many realize the profits of wicked, or simply earnestly disinterested lives, can in their own self be held as disgusting for a man who always wishes for something he can be held by himself as respectful for. There is always choice in the observer, and I believe those who give willingly of themselves have made the better choice than those who take, and I hold some respect for those who simply feel there is no need that they get involved - but I, myself, have always taken that as an excuse when it lacks explanation in earnest. Reducing moral volition to an act of greed? Chimp-brained. As close to a genuinely villainous sentiment as anything incapable of understanding a world broader and taller than the base means and need for survival could evoke. It is, it always is, a thought-trap; it's an old and well-practiced means of demeaning those who seek a greater purpose and meaning in life, by saying that they are nothing more than those who choose to do worse than they. And in doing so it tells the lie, for it exposes the jealousy towards conviction, and the despair of one's own actions, inherent in the mind of a wicked person. "I don't like you, because you're just like me, and trying to be more. I don't like me, and I don't believe I CAN be more." No religious sermon here, just high-effort moralflagging.
Your retrospectives/analysis videos are solid. Down to the calm narration, without being artificially slowed down for time, no excess fat on the scripts, having a point that leads somewhere, a conclusion derived here and there with the video having almost always a culmination and not just a wiki plot read with a video edit. We appreciate you.
I vividly remember getting chills during the ending shot of Ledoux in the gas mask holding a machete, the frame just lingers on him before cutting to credits. 17 year old me was shook, I had watched a lot of horror movies as a teenager but that affected more than anything else up to that point. Total mental paradigm shift
holy shit i remember half paying attention to the first two episodes while my parents were rewatching it, but then when those episode 3 credits i freaked out, watched the entire show that night, then rewatched it three times in that week lol, creepiest shit ever
@@elizaday284 "To realize that all your life, all your love all your hate all your fears, all your memories, all of it was the same thing; it was all the same dream. It was all dream inside a locked box, a dream you had about being a person. And, like a lot of dreams... there's a monster at the end of it."
Wierd timing. Literally just finished the show last week and have been obsessed. Fucking legendary series. We don't talk about season 2 though... I do want to build on the point of the cult just being crazy. As I dont think that's ENTIRELY true. Beyond the meta perspective of the audience, Rust and Marty, because of their involvement in the case, are stuck in a loop. From the 3 different time periods, that being 1995, 2002, and 2012, many plot points and parallels are repeated in each era. I can't list all of them since they're scattered all over the show, but easiest example is Marty cheating. He cheats in 95, is forgiven, then goes back to cheating in 2002. Rust is isolated and going insane in 95, and in 2002 he seems to be doing better and has more a grasp of a social life, then is dragged back down to isolation and insanity from the case. Both of thier lives after they abandoned the case have become meaningless cycles of themselves. I could go on and on. Also Rust hallucinations tend to have actual connections. The flock of birds outside the church form a spiral foreshadowing the symbol of the cult and the endless cycle of suffering in life. Throughout the whole show rust makes it clear that he know what's a hallucination and whats not. But that final one he has when chasing Childress, makes him look very confused and uncertain. As the sacrifices were done so Childress can reach ascension and not be reborn into the cycle of life, is it possible that he was tapping into an old unknowable evil? Or maybe rust was just fucking crazy. Thats what I love about the supernatural elements of the show. You can view it however you want.
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 woody Harrelsons dad was a convicted hitman who was charged for murdering 2 people I think, at different times, and acquitted of one
This was one of the best detective shows I've ever seen. Woody and Mathew were the best actors for their roles. The writing was excellent, and they built a great atmosphere.
As crazy awesome as this show was, it happened to be mostly filmed in a small town in st Charles parish Louisiana. Very small population but I’m from there. My aunt was an extra in the tent revival scene 😂 the little banh mi shop they were eating at outside is actually a snowball (Italian ice) stand. I remember them filming at certain spots around town and actually seeing the story on screen was so profound and beautiful. Such an amazing story.. and you’re right.. s2 and 3 were mediocre.
In my opinion, True Detective Season One is a masterpiece. I have watched it many many time with my wife, and we both agree on this point. Everything about it is just beyond anything attempted in the media. The writing, the characters, the actors, the setting, the direction, the tone, etc... everything. It is my favorite live action series, its not even a close race. I think a lot of people feel this way.
Also thank you. I needed something good to watch. Posted a ridiculously long video in honor of you on my page recently if you wanna check it out. A Berserk AMV.
no, I wouldn't want them to touch Season 1 again. It's pretty much apparent with Season 2 and 3 that the main writers behind the series lost their magic or peaked in season 1.
Time is a flat circle... there was a horror movie I watched about this. It was about a cult that two guys left as kids then decided to come back to just to visit later. The story was so good.
@@christianlowman2698 I have no clue. But when I heard those words, I immediately thought of the guy trapped in a sub 10 second time loop where all he does is try to reach the edge of the circle that constrains the loop and explodes right before he escapes his tent.
When Rust talks about his human programming and how the honorable thing to do would to be go extinct sounds like it was ripped from Thomas Ligotti's The Conspiracy Against The Human Race
I rewatch this 2-3 times per year. It is without a doubt the best single season of a show ever made. I've never seen a show more perfect than season 1. This is a great review, well done.
In addition to references to The King in Yellow, as well as the first season taking place in Louisiana, in “The Call of Cthulhu”, there was a discovery of a cult dedicated to Cthulu in the Louisianan swamps in 1907. There, the New Orleans police discovered the existence of Dagon-human hybrids as well as a small totem of Cthulu, which butterfly effect-ed its way to the awakening of Cthulu. Just something to think about
Brilliant video. Well researched and fair. Season One of True Detective truly changed the landscape of contemporary television drama. So many people forget or just neglect the importance of Fukunaga’s directorial touch and blindly praise Pizzolatto - who absolutely deserves the praise, but certainly has his own creative inabilities. Keep up the content!
His creative inability is just not being able to work under a deadline. HBO wanted more seasons, and that got to him and affected the quality of the story. You could tell he worked for years on the first season of the show, and it was very close to him.
Time Point 8:00 Cohle isn’t crazy, remember this is the Lovecraftian universe. Cohle has been studying and meditating on so many wonky subjects that he is essentially a self made Shaman. The spiral in the last episode was Errol Childress’ ever opening gateway to his ascension. It was slowly opening and a few more sacrifices it would be fully open. Only an acolyte or a person with an enhanced awareness could see it and feel it. Cohle’s awareness was such that he saw it and even felt the presence of his daughter and father. That’s why Childress said “Take off your mask”- he knew that Cohle was more than a lawman.
This comment section is fascinating. I have NEVER met a fan of the show who interpreted Cohle’s hallucinations as literally real. But here you guys are. Hundreds of you. So weird
EROL CHILDRESS IS NOT THE FUCKING YELLOW KING, HE WORSHIPS THE YELLOW KING. THE YELLOW KING IS NOT HUMAN. HE IS AN ELDER BEING OF PURE HORROR. THE PORTAL RUST SAW IN THE FINAL EPISODE WAS A REAL PORTAL THAT WAS THE ENTRANCE TO CARCOSA, THE HOME OF THE YELLOW KING.
Alright, while I broadly agree, I think the idea is moreso that there's "something" and it's "out there". Both the "something" and the "out there" are true factors within this story; to imply that the cult actually knows what's going on, that seems like a stretch. People who write off the supernatural aspects are telling on themselves - people who worship the comfort that science gives them, and hide from the greater implications of every new thing we learn. An ant, ever closer to us in many ways than we comfortably admit, could never conceive of what a human truly is - a man, though, can consider a God. Within the realm of observation that the mind can conceive of, then, there is already room in consideration for a God. A God, to wit, naturally has the faculties of change and creation that we mostly rely on technology for; he has all the functions within reality baked into himself as natural functions he can assert power over. To say nothing is a God is to say you only define what a God is by your elevating skepticism; you would never let anything have the title. You enter the discussion not in earnest, but for your own comfort. To say, then, that even from our current philosophical perspective, that the Carcosa he perceived cannot be, is ludicrous and begs for the comforting rationality of our limited knowledge. I do agree with and like the supernatural theory; however, don't get so mad that you shout at TAL for it. It's very, very easy to get filtered by your own skepticism, no matter how many times you see evidence of proof. Some people need a Shoggoth's willy to smack them in the face before they admit there can be one, and most will then seek a reason why that Shoggoth is not a Shoggoth in supernatural terms, but rather something else that they can emotionally handle. The supernatural being real doesn't ruin the story; it makes Rust's final realization far, far heavier. He doesn't know if it's true, but he's agreed to a philosophical paradigm that works in both cases. Whether or not God and the Devil are out there, you still notice it when Good wins something.
I’ve actually come around to think Cole’s final “vision” might be real … we’re given a few clues it might be. Either way, if you rewatch with this perspective, it’s REALLY scary in a different way!
Strongly disagree. If you watch the show, Cohle is deeply traumatized by resuming drug use and his encounter with Ledoux. The things they said to him made sense in his mind, played on his preconceptions of predestination and fate. He *believed* them. There’s nothing outside of Cohle’s specific and uniquely unreliable perspective that suggests the supernatural is real in this show. I understand the fan theory, but there’s nothing there that proves it. And not only that, the supernatural is irrelevant to the show’s conclusion and value. It doesn’t NEED to be real. It only has to have the suggestive influence on Cohle.
Absolutely my pick for deserted island watching. I could rewatch this over and over and STILL be amazed by the brilliance of the cinematography and the context of it all.
I have rewatched season 1 countless times and I always notice some new little detail each time. Such a fantastic season with incredible atmosphere and world building.
Another cool little not to Call of Cthulhu is the fact that there is also a cult in the Louisiana Bayou in the story that is broken up by a detective named LeGrass, who found them through a series of ritualistic murders.
One of my favorite things about this show is how well the writers did their research on the rural south. A lot of hollywood projects can make southern characters feel like caricatures, but true detective does the opposite of this. A lot of the characters felt like real people i’ve met before, or i’ve walked past on the street, which is rare and hard to do. It made the horror so much more effective for me because of how it hit close to home.
There's one thing that will always bother me as someone born and raised in Louisiana. You see I'm from North-North-Central LA. Further south is where all the iconic landscapes are. But I digress, I was never really bothered by the abandoned homes out in the bayou. What always bothered me were the homes built out in the fields. The homes themselves were near the road but they weren't farm houses, they were just there and behind them were these empty fields. That always bothered me. The emptyness out there. Maybe it's because I grew up surrounded by forest but all that nothing never felt right.
I absolutely love True Detective. Rust Cohle is a character I truly identify with. If my life if it went more off kilter I could become like him. So much so, a girl at work said he reminded her of me years back. The story, the mystery all of it is so brilliant. Just amazing from start to finish.
Tbh I actually preferred the other girl that also shows everything and also has a sex scene with Marty in one of the last episodes. Alexandra is hot, but there’s just something about that other girl that I enjoyed lol
Saw this video months ago, started it, went "you know what i should really watch this show first". Life got in the way for awhile but i literally just finished the 8th episode and now im back to finish this video. I owed a debt.
One thing I enjoy about your movie/show reviews is that you acknowledge the writers, and other stuff they've worked on. They're very undertalked about in the industry, but everyone acknowledges that they're some of the most important.
I think the only part you have wrong is that Carcosa was not "a tomb built by settlers centuries before hand", it is instead an old Civil War Battery/Fort, which happens to be on the Childress property. All in all great video, and one of my favourite shows ever. I've lost count how many times I've seen it. Maybe 3 times a year at least since release.
I am surprised at how many things TAL got wrong in this review. They were small mistakes but they were oddly inexcusable mistakes. Just pulling stuff out of his butt a couple times
Id say my biggest hangup with season 2 is that the three cop characters were all torn from the same adlib page, and only had one blank space different from each other. Collin Farrell was crooked, Rachel McAdams was sexualy traumatized, and Taylor Kitsch was closeted gay and in denial about it. Other than those three differences, they were all the same carbon copy character, an emotionally broken police detective burnt out on the job and life, but not played by Mathew McConaughey. Vince Vaughn carried that season.
This is my favorite series by far and I watch it one a year. And It got me,a cosmic horror fan, hooked into Lovecraftian Noir Detective stories and the Noir genre in general.
@@thrice2565Sorry for the late reply but yt doesn't always notify me: No series but a few books. First is the Midnight Eye Files book one: The Amulet. Top quality noir/Lovecraftian story. I recommend buying the volume one collection because it comes with two other good noir style stories that while they are not as good as the first one they hold up. Vol 2 is just a few small stories. There's also the two stories published by the Bizarchives (Weird Tales spiritual successor) The Molybdus Articulate and the Shanghai Horror. Haven't read them but apparently their very good pulp/detective horror stories, the first one delving into pure Lovecraftian horror.
I can’t think of any other show that explored grounded cosmic horror like the first season did. The characters were so realistic. All of the stuff these guys go through fucks them up in more ways than one. You rarely see that happen to the extent this show does. The cosmic horror aspect is there but never the focus, the characters are always front and center, and when The Yellow King or Carcosa does pop up, it makes it all the more effective.
Rust is not cuckoo, he sees the world as it really is and that fuels his addiction issues. But Marty is still seemed to be normal? No man. In a functional world, Rust is not cuckoo.
I agree with you. Marty is the real troubled one. He Lies to himself and is full of excuses. Rust knows who he is and doesnt pretend. Terrific acting on both sides❤
I watched the first season a few times and it's one of my favorite shows, but I've never seen the other seasons; Because of this review I think I'll start watching them now.
Dude, yes!!! S1 had me so captivated. I was completely immersed and so enveloped in it, I was ready for a cosmic horror beast to appear. Can't praise the first season enough. Great review. P.s. love how you say "save spoilers for later" while showing the big bad. Hah
I don’t remember when I started watching your chancel but you have become one of my favorite UA-camr of all time keep up the amazing work man also I’m definitely gonna be buying that merch soon ❤
I don't recall ever hearing about this show before and I really like both actors, thank you for the brief spoiler warning as you said shows like 8 years old but I'm going to go watch it right now just based on the first 12 minutes of this video. 😄👍
Great choice of music. Silent Hill 2 in many ways is very similar to True Detective, like the concept of a broken man as protagonist or goin deeper into the core of darkness.
Very good review, thoroughly enjoyed it. One of the reasons Season 1 is so good is because it's very focused and clear. No surprise since Pizzaman been writing the scrip for a long time, it turned out his magnum opus. Season 2 is all over the place, too many characters, too many interactions, antagonists are bleak and forgettable, despite its early play with Lynchean themes like in Mullholland Drive it eventually turns into a plot about some robbery from ages ago. It has many good things and overall a good show but it could've been so much better. I think they should've taken more time to polish the script. Season 3, as you said, focuses very hard on one detective instead of two, it provides some twists and turns out to be not what people expected, it's different and good in its own way. I am excited that they are making Season 4, Alaskan setting and female lead might turn out very interesting.
The background music in the video is from Akira Yamaoka's Silent Hill 2 soundtrack. masterpiece of a game. Track titles: "Alone in the town," "True," "World of Madness," and a few others. "Promise Reprise" is amazing.
I think this story also includes elements of The Green man mythology. Also a real life case where the detective who investigated the torture and murder of several young girls. The tapes of the murders haunted him, and he ended up not being able to live with it. Depressing stuff.
"you just need characters who believe it's real" is right. cohle and hart missed this aspect of dora's murder. they dismissed her diary entries as drug induced. which of course may be the case in the natural world but she, childress, ledoux, and possibly the tuttles were operating on a supernatural level and that's what connected them. cohle and hart stopped at the druggie due to a lack of (supernatural) imagination. we see this natural vs supernatural theme in cohle as well. his substance abuse, hallucinations, and ramblings are attributed by him and others as mental health issues, grounded in the physical natural world. cohle seems to give "logical" explanations for human behavior, citing evolution and psychology. at the end, however, his worldview changes in a way that is more supernatural, talking about feeling his daughter's presence. it's in the supernatural where he finds some kind of redemption. interestingly, that final scene brings the natural and supernatural together when cohle uses the physical light and dark of the night sky as a metaphor for the supernatural light and dark
Love this show. Seen it several times and always catch new things. There is a link between water and carcosa that is only eluded to. There’s a specific scene that shows a boat at the end after discussing carcosa. And its the reason why so many people go missing near water. The boats were probably used to transport. We actually never see the yellow king too which I love. Even childress isn’t the true big evil. They were all worshipers and he was close to ascending before being killed by hart. They born a monster that came back to haunt them. “You know what they did to me…”
@@johnnyboy2537 it's the worst I've ever finished. GoT s8 would be the worst had I finished it, and yea I've hated Marvel since Age of Ultron so I'm sure they're bad. But True Detective S2 was a terrible detective story, and as a sequel to S1 it's an outright crime. Atleast I really hated it. It was the same writer, great cast, and yet I hated every character, every plot-point, every line of dialogue-- as a fan of the genre I found it to be unforgivably boring and occasionally straight up retarded. there's a random sub-plot in one episode where a cop files sexual harassment claims against the lead female cop cuz he's mad at her, so she goes to rapist counseling and when they ask why she's there she answers "You know, I just really like big dicks." That's the whole scene, it serves no purpose and is cringe af. There's a scene where Vince Vaughn's wife is giving him a sloppy toppy and when he can't get it up she says-- verbatum-- "Suck your own dick." This is not played for laughs. Vaughn's character does nothing but furrow his brow for the entire series. Colin Ferril beats the shit out of a child for no reason, zero consequence or development. There's a million characters, none of them have a personal stake in the narrative and all of them are unlikable. You're just meant to take these miserable people seriously. It's pointlessly depressing and has none of the heart of S1 and no identity of it's own. It is without merit. 0/10
I hold Season 3 dearly in my heart as it was my first exposure to this series. And mostly because I remember tuning in to watch each episode with mom and dad when it was all new. Then dad passed away on December 2019 right before the entire world went insane. Memories of watching Season 3, "Escape at Dannemora" and the "Catch 22" miniseries with dad are some of the dearest memories of those final couple of years of calm before the storm in my life. I absolutely believe you and many others about Season 1 being the best, I haven't seen it yet, but I'm just saying that even after doing it Season 3 will very likely still have a sweet spot for me. I also agree on Cary Fukunaga being a damn good creator with a very few duds. I remember enjoying "Maniac" (another nice memory of those "calm before the storm" years) and I actually got to read his treatment for the first part of the "It" movie adaptation and while there's obviously differences, I was surprised at how much of his script was kept in the finished product. I remember reading how some threw Cary under the bus with the argument "He wanted to keep the controversial sewer orgy from the book!" which I have severe doubts. On the other hand in his treatment I noticed that the big difference is that MIKE and his family gets a LOT more flashing out than how he ended up being in the finished film where he's instead one of the least flashed out Losers. Primarily, in the original script Mike's father gets beaten to death by Bowers' evil cop father and at the hospital before dying he confesses to Mike how he encountered Pennywise himself when the KKK set ablaze the Black Spot bar and he saw Pennywise snatching up the panicking black people in the river. And in the flashback just like in the book his fellow survivor of the Black Spot fire is Dick Hallorann from "The Shining". I think the studio wanted to trim down Mike's importance and Fukunaga was having none of that and that's the reason reason he left for creative differences. I also wouldn't be surprised if he left because they wanted to direct the movie with conventional jumpscares. Another thing I loved in his script was how insane and surreal Pennywise's lair was described, it definitely tackled more into the cosmic aspect of the character. Man, I wish he didn't leave the project and got to do "Chapter 2" his way and changing anything he wants if it means the adult section/ending won't suck. Overall, I do agree that "Chapter 1" is good because they sticked with 75% of his vision.
Fukunaga is why NTTD is as good as it is, because it does have a lot of good in it, especially in comparison to Spectre. But yeah, this show is fucking awesome.
The allegations against the director seem to be a complete nothing burger. "Grooming" between adults isn't a thing, adults are - in fact - allowed to persue relationships (sexual and/or romantic and/or otherwise) with eath other, age gap or not.
. . . .the Thing about grooming IS Not really someone being underaged, you can manipulate and condition someone in a weaker Position No Matter their age. And Just because adult relationships are mostly legal does Not Always mean they should BE presued
On the subject of the "believability of the detectives' actions in accordance with SOP": Do keep in mind what time and age in which the show's past is set in. Crooked cops, as well as good chiefs willing to cover up their agents bending the law to do good work, was probably more common than we'll ever be made privy to. That's part of the charm of the future interview sections; two rookies, every now and then, can hardly believe what they're hearing about the way our leads conducted their investigations. It's good stuff. On the topic of whether or not the cosmic horror is real: Cole witnessing the universe in Carcosa... Could be drugs, but could also be real. The meta analysis is primarily the most resonable one though.
I think you misread the character of Rust. He was the only self-governed, self-driven character in the show. Everyone else needed the church/community/family/a debt to stay decent and on-task. He did not. He was a hero archetype. Just a non-traditional one.
Season one of this show will forever be cemented in my mind as one of the greatest shows I've ever seen. It's almost like an 8 hour movie, I couldn't stop thinking about it for weeks
Is it Fargo season 1 good?
@@HistoryNerd8765 way beyond that I swear man.
This is still my #1 pick. Hope season 4 is good.
I don't know if season 1 is my favorite show of all time but I do think it has my favorite writing of all time
loved the season 1, but i hate the ending, hospital part, rust surviving. dialogue at the end was a lethal weapon level of shit
I've been shot at three times in my life, and everytime it was in Louisiana, so I'd say this show portrays the setting perfectly
Twice for me in NOLA
What?! But it's perceived as such a party city?!
Maybe it's you.
@@Flint-Dibble-the-Don 🤓
Give Iowa a chance, though you may have better luck in Missouri.
"Drunk cops fight Elder Gods" is absolutely perfect
"Well once there was only darkness.....If you ask me, light is winning" one of my favorite quotes ever
Was actually probably inspired by a moment in the comic series Top 10. It's a police procedural in a city where everyone has some degree of superpowers or gadgetry.
I just wish I could 'explain' no, no. No 'express' yeah, that's better. Express to you what it means.
Taken with the theme of alcoholism, too, it becomes even more optimistic. The point of being alcoholic is that one little drink almost inevitably leads to all-out drinking, and by analogy, that one little point of light foretells an inevitable bender of light.
Brian Cox: “hold my black hole”
I used to like it, but then I thought about how before the big bang everything was beyond light and now the universe is getting darker and darker as everything rushes away from everything else.
I live in the SE Louisiana area. I’d like to point out that there are cold case of prostitutes murdered in the 70s 80s and 90s. Then a certain sheriff died and the murders stopped. May have inspired the writer.
Certainly no mommy issues there.
You remember said Sheriff’s name or anyone who knew him?
@@Quantum1244 I know it was either in the Vernon, Beauregard, Calcasieu, Cameron, or (but unlikely) Jefferson-Davis Perishes.
Kind of like the Golden State Killer...he was a former cop.
I commented this earlier, but this is also quite similar to the Boys Town incident, with the governor and several churches/foster programs being involved. I believe this was in Oklahoma
Part of me hates that they didn't continue their story into the next season, but another part of me is glad. The longer a good story goes on the tendency is for it to fall flat or tank.
I hope they never continue it. It's perfect because it ended. If they even mention anything that happens after the ending, I personally think it will only take away from the show. The ending dealt with the hope that their cycle would break, so if they continued their story somehow... well, like it's said in the show, then things really do happen again. And again. And again.
Old showbiz saying : " Always leave 'em wanting more " .......
Marty and rust are kinda realistic friends. The “i cannot believe I have to work with this asshole.” Dynamic. Makes that scene of them talking of what they’ve been doing since the fight hit hard
Would Not call them.friends . . .
Except thats exactly what they are@@SingingSealRiana
I watched it already on bitchute and loved it, you did this series justice. True detective has everything I love. A southern gothic setting, lovecraftian inspired elements, interesting crime mystery, and flawed characters. I absolutely love this show and will forever consider it (atleast the first season) to be my favorite of all time. Thank you so much for talking about this series, I'm gonna watch it for the 5th time now, thanks loli.
Time is a flat circle.
@@TheAlmightyLoli
Time is a flat suscle
Didn't care for season too as much I'm guessing?
I can't get into crime thrillers like this cause I get so invested that I have to find out what happens and spoil it by googling what happens to all the characters or making guesses on who the murderer is (usually is a person or company mentioned in ep 1 of these types) and I just can't watch em lmao
Even fargo I found myself fast forwarding through scenes of all the characters I didn't care about 🤣
What makes this show different from say fargo or reacher or similar shows?
How does it have love craftian horror ? Fargo was kind of like that in a newer season with a UFO but no answers came about it other then the fargo area gets lots of ufo sightings 😂
@@andrew-rn9ui watch it and find out. Season 1 is widely considered to be one of the greatest pieces put to a screen. Theres only a few characters and its relatively short-- only being 8 hours long. But man not a second is wasted.
I always felt that Cole was “sensitive”. That the drugs simply emphasized his feeling that the world wasn’t quite right. Like when he talked about the town being a memory of a place. It made sense that he saw the genuinely otherworldly vision at the end, as this was a world he was brushing up against.
And he said himself that he has synesthesia.
I always felt cole fucked men. No I will not elaborate
He was psychic or something along those lines. The Yellow King was real.
@@DeadManSinging1 to what end? Who is the yellow king? What does he do? What's the point
The Yellow King is an entity that lives in another dimension, another world, in an ancient city called Carcosa. He is an unimaginable horror that the human mind cannot comprehend. The Tuttle Cult worships him and tortures/sacrifices children in his name. They do this because they think one day they will be able to go to Carcosa and be servants of the Yellow King. That’s why the old black lady they interview says “death is not the end”.
At the end of season 1, Rust Cohle catches a glimpse into that dimension when he’s in Childress’s lair.
The inverted cop buddy trope? Yeah, smashed right into an existential void. Almost every verbal exchange between Marty and Rust is barbed and cutting. Hostility is always brewing. It's a thing of beauty. LOL When their friendship reaches it's epic crash and burn, Rust finally drops him a compliment. "Nice hook, Marty." The writing is just devastatingly badass.
Two drunk detectives fighting elder gods, it reminds of me of my delta green campaign with friends sometime ago.
Reminds me of disco elysium
Sounds straightout of Lovecraftian Mythos
Yes
The monologues that Cole exudes when he is in the room with the beer can people is some of the most beautiful dialogue I've ever heard in anything.
I totally agree - 'nothin' snooty' is still my go-to line for ordering a beer.
And its all completely plagiarized. Thats part of WHY the later seasons failed. Rust’s character is cribbed almost entirely from some anti-natalist philosophy book Pizzolatto read in college.
Doesnt make the show less awesome, but it does make Pizzolatto more of a hack than you’d think
@@DarranKern Source?
I love the Rust interrogation scenes. He was brutal when he acted warm towards Charmaine (who killed her own baby) then completely pulls the plug by telling her she should kill herself at the first opportunity, then walks out of the room.
As a person that leans toward pessimism (so I'm not disappointed yet again) I loved Rust's outlook.
Easily one of the best crime shows ever put on TV. My favorite quote:
"The world needs bad men. We keep other bad men from the door."
"Once there was only dark. If you ask me, light is winning".
10/10.
It's a great quote because you don't have to look that deep into history to know that it's true.
Best standalone crime drama for sure!
The Wire is the best of all time
Its something that is overlooked or denied in our day of false morality and shallow virtue. We have strong laws but the weakest executives and people who take there safety so for granted the idea of defunding the police and abolishing prisons is treated as if it's a viable and sober proposal and not that of an idiot or a liar and a power hungry politician seeking to eliminate the greatest obstacle to implementing a socialist agenda by force. Nearly a century makes it plain anywhere they can't simply overthrow the police by force the calls for defunding begin. Socialism 101 nothing original. The police are a rather sad group on the whole anyway they don't make much and are vilified by much of our culture, standards have been cut for decades for numerous reasons and it shows. Many departments are forced to hire people who they never would have considered simply to get bodies on the street, they have no way to compete for the best and the brightest young people and from the already meager pool the least able are promoted to leadership positions for many reasons least of which is merit and this is largely to thank for the rise of activist cops and DA undermining they're departments from within whether intentionally or simply the demoralization that sets in anywhere incompetents and ideologues are in leadership. The crime problem in America is largely one of refusal to accept reality because its mean or the facts are uncomfortable and thus must be spun and skewed by those in power and academia and most especially the media who insist reality is what they say it is even though they have to engage in deliberate lying, suppression, manipulating statistics etc. Its a false humanity that refuses to do what is necessary in order to cling to comforting delusions and theories about rehabilitation and human nature. Or rather to cling to what serves they're political and corporate agendas. A fraction of the manpower and technology could largely eliminate crime especially serious offenses and it would involve a fraction of the human suffering but because of the squeamishness and self righteousness of many people who know nothing about how to protect society or the criminal mind we continue to flail about at the leaves of evil rather than striking at the root.
Inside your wolves are two sheepdogs, because you’re all the same joker we live in a society.
You forgot to mention one moment where it's also left ambiguous if there's actual supernatural stuff happening. When Cohle reaches the Carcosa church, that's the exact moment his hallucinations kick in and he sees a spiraling black hole on the skies above.
Some people theorize that drugs alter your perception in a way it makes you aware of different dimensions. I don't necessarily believe that but I think the showrunners were going for that vibe when they made that scene, the idea that Cohle may or may not have tapped into dark forces associated with Carcosa and its evil cult.
I’m gonna be totally honest. I way prefer it to be actually supernatural instead of it just being the drugs. It elevates the story to a whole new level.
Well, it's definitely made clear that Rust and Marty are in over their heads... fighting an evil they can't fully grasp. I always thought that the "Yellow King" was some malevolent being manipulating events from afar (Marty shooting ledoux, Marty cheating again, Cops trying to arrest Rust) to keep that evil functional and secret. It eventually fails which ties back into the final quote "You ask me, the light is winning".
Cohle kept me engaged throughout the entire show.
Its sometimes called “permatripping” being in a constant semi-hallucinatory state due to excessive hallucinogen abuse. Synesthesia is a potential symptom. I disagree that the supernatural is explicitly real in this series. It could be, but there is no legitimate evidence to support the conclusion
@@DarranKern And you're... looking for legitimate evidence... of unprovable phenomena? Can you not just apply some theory of mind here and note that from the meta of the writer's own choices, it's meant to be a valid interpretation based upon many earmarks of how the supernatural implications are regularly presented to the audience, without one of the detectives always defaulting to that conclusion as if they believed the theory and it had been obfuscating their judgment?
I'm getting some "most of the skeptics in the comments section don't read, like, books" vibes here.
Season 1 of True Detective is like the first 4 seasons of Game of Thrones, perfect TV that will be forever remembered.
I've consistently said season 1 is one of the best pieces of television ever made
Agree completely.
They set the bar too high with that first season. There was no way they could follow it up.
Yeah. But season 2 makes it retroactively worse
nah you said it wasn’t on two separate occasions, pretty inconsistent if you ask me 👎
@@ConsciousExpression Lol what? How does that work? If season 2 story was a continuation of season 1 story, I'd agree with you. Same way that Game of Thrones as a whole was completely tarnished by the final season.. but True Detective season 1 and 2 have absolutely nothing to do with each other. So season 2 should not impact season 1 at all.
Nice to see Louisiana gettin some love with this review, RE7 saferoom song also a nice touch. Thanks for the content loli
Louisiana being the setting also probably had to do with the call of cthulhu. Cops stopped a pagan ritual in the bayou and the protagonist dug up the records found by his uncle in New Orleans. Also it does make for great spooky settings with the cemeteries and the famous house that the family had flayed their slaves and buried them alive in the walls. You know, just normal wholesome stuff.
Also we use a literal morgue for Santa's workshop
There was also a real school/church that was caught doing a weird occult murder ring In Louisiana. Can’t remember the name off the top of my head. A similar thing was the Franklin coverup.
@@makerstudios5456 yup and that boys club
Oh fuck
@@mainsource8030Franklin Boys Town.
The single tracking shot at the hells angel club house is fantastic.
“Why Cajuns are not people”
Damn cuz, what I ever do to you? 😢
I adore how, the Resident Evil 7 save room theme which is great in it's own right, all of this video's soundtrack is SH2. God tier OST to fit to this GOD tier show
It was indeed a great fit
Both set in Louisiana too
@@MrMrgodzilla567 great catch
No doubt the RE7 developers were inspired by this extraordinary series. The Childress estate looks a lot like the Bakers estate.
That save room theme is so .. idk something about it just can't explain it. Like re4 they both have a feeling of peace combined with vulnerability I think
Thanks to this video I just binged the entire first season on my off night. I stopped before I got to the spoiler section. Also fun fact, in Call of Cthulhu there's a specific reference to a police raid on a voodoo cult in Louisiana. Further inspiration most likely
I’ve read that the originally ending had Rust and the killer disappear showing that the cult was actually right…
Season 2 really tried for something different and season 3 tried to recapture the feelings, but season 1 will always hold a unique place in my heart above all the other drunk cop shows.
I think season two tried to do “L.A confidential” but just had too many moving parts to keep track of.
@@parkerhuff9995 Indeed. If anything the title 'true detective' almost becomed an impediment to the story in season two and three. Lots of supernatural elements or forced interview scenes were not necessary for season two. And season three, well, they did not need to lock in to just two detectives and did not need to make the case unreasonably surreal.
Season 3 is an outright catastrophe
It’s a shame how the other seasons turned out, but the show still did have some good standout moments.
Season 3 was pretty good and the second had it's moments despite it's bad and bloated beginnings. Definitely weren't as good though.
Season 3 is definitely a worth
Rewatch season 2 if you seriously think it's bad.
@@johnnyboy2537 Honestly, what finally made me lose my enjoyment for the second season was the ending, because if the finish was stronger, then maybe the rest of the low points might have been worth it, but nope. Season 3, however, was a major improvement and imo isnt that far away from being as good as the first season.
Season 3 is pretty good. Not as good as season 1 but good none the less.
Season one of true detective is a masterpiece and is brilliant in every way
As an enjoyer of cosmic horror and someone who read and was familiar with King in Yellow long before the show ever existed, True Detective season 1 holds a special place in my heart. It's one of the most grounded examples of how horror can intersect with the idea of drama and a couple of scenes just really drove that home in such a beautifully dark way. It's the mundaneness of life that Cole regularly argues about contrasted with the events of the final episode and how it changes him as a person.
"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward then, brother, that person is a piece of s***. And I’d like to get as many of them out in the open as possible. You gotta get together and tell yourself stories that violate every law of the universe just to get through the goddamn day? What’s that say about your reality?" -Rust Cohle
"Can you see Texas from up on your high horse?"
It's a good breakdown of his perspective, but it should also be kept in mind that this chain of thinking is explicitly a weapon against well-meaning people.
Should a good man have to suffer while never expecting anything for his trouble? While those of moral disinterest, or outright evil practice, live easier lives? Were you a God, what would be your excuse for knowing the plight of the loving father taken by cancer while you watched on? Would you then be a God with no empathy? No sympathy? Were you just a man, would you watch that loving father die and never tend to his grave, nor visit his family? If you did so, what would it mean to you when that man's lowly brother, absent for his life and death, implied you were just doing it for attention? There is the woeful casket of the well-meaning man; you and he both lie within it, dead before the eyes of those who refuse to understand basic empathy, whose only goodwill is toward their own purposes and lazy comforts of being. The world of that woeful casket is what you beggar when you believe the good man is beneath ever deserving an ounce of favoritism.
Of course good people get rewarded; they're the only ones explicitly defined by seeking virtuous purpose _that can be taken as_ worthy of rewards outside of the rules. The only ones stopping everyone from being good, are they themselves, spitting in the eye of the well-meaning by saying "You'd be just like me, just exactly like I am, if you didn't think there was something waiting for you." Good isn't held as a virtuous principle because people think it's more profitable; it's taken because many realize the profits of wicked, or simply earnestly disinterested lives, can in their own self be held as disgusting for a man who always wishes for something he can be held by himself as respectful for. There is always choice in the observer, and I believe those who give willingly of themselves have made the better choice than those who take, and I hold some respect for those who simply feel there is no need that they get involved - but I, myself, have always taken that as an excuse when it lacks explanation in earnest.
Reducing moral volition to an act of greed? Chimp-brained. As close to a genuinely villainous sentiment as anything incapable of understanding a world broader and taller than the base means and need for survival could evoke.
It is, it always is, a thought-trap; it's an old and well-practiced means of demeaning those who seek a greater purpose and meaning in life, by saying that they are nothing more than those who choose to do worse than they. And in doing so it tells the lie, for it exposes the jealousy towards conviction, and the despair of one's own actions, inherent in the mind of a wicked person.
"I don't like you, because you're just like me, and trying to be more. I don't like me, and I don't believe I CAN be more."
No religious sermon here, just high-effort moralflagging.
Your retrospectives/analysis videos are solid.
Down to the calm narration, without being artificially slowed down for time, no excess fat on the scripts, having a point that leads somewhere, a conclusion derived here and there with the video having almost always a culmination and not just a wiki plot read with a video edit.
We appreciate you.
I vividly remember getting chills during the ending shot of Ledoux in the gas mask holding a machete, the frame just lingers on him before cutting to credits. 17 year old me was shook, I had watched a lot of horror movies as a teenager but that affected more than anything else up to that point. Total mental paradigm shift
holy shit i remember half paying attention to the first two episodes while my parents were rewatching it, but then when those episode 3 credits i freaked out, watched the entire show that night, then rewatched it three times in that week lol, creepiest shit ever
@@elizaday284 "To realize that all your life, all your love all your hate all your fears, all your memories, all of it was the same thing; it was all the same dream. It was all dream inside a locked box, a dream you had about being a person. And, like a lot of dreams... there's a monster at the end of it."
Crazy how 17 year old me just saw that scene the other night and was also chilled
it freezes for a second 2! i only got that he wears the mask cause of cooking meth like on the 7th time i watched it recently!
I think its so creepy because he looks at the camera. It gives you the sense that he becomes aware of you and looks right at you
Wierd timing. Literally just finished the show last week and have been obsessed. Fucking legendary series. We don't talk about season 2 though...
I do want to build on the point of the cult just being crazy. As I dont think that's ENTIRELY true. Beyond the meta perspective of the audience, Rust and Marty, because of their involvement in the case, are stuck in a loop. From the 3 different time periods, that being 1995, 2002, and 2012, many plot points and parallels are repeated in each era. I can't list all of them since they're scattered all over the show, but easiest example is Marty cheating. He cheats in 95, is forgiven, then goes back to cheating in 2002. Rust is isolated and going insane in 95, and in 2002 he seems to be doing better and has more a grasp of a social life, then is dragged back down to isolation and insanity from the case. Both of thier lives after they abandoned the case have become meaningless cycles of themselves. I could go on and on. Also Rust hallucinations tend to have actual connections. The flock of birds outside the church form a spiral foreshadowing the symbol of the cult and the endless cycle of suffering in life. Throughout the whole show rust makes it clear that he know what's a hallucination and whats not. But that final one he has when chasing Childress, makes him look very confused and uncertain. As the sacrifices were done so Childress can reach ascension and not be reborn into the cycle of life, is it possible that he was tapping into an old unknowable evil? Or maybe rust was just fucking crazy. Thats what I love about the supernatural elements of the show. You can view it however you want.
I really think the cult was so close. We do see the vortex that the cult had been trying to "make" with all the cult stuff they did.
@@Huyle18Kind of funny to think that maybe their ancestors could actually do this stuff, but now everyone is just dumb and can’t quite get it right.
@@rgaud8 we do know one generation of Tully/childress did the ritual correctly and that nights cult members all disapeared.
We do talk about season 2. It’s great
You are reading WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much into it
Woody Harrelson's father was an irl famous career criminal that would've fit right in as a character in the fictional True Detective
Elaborate
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 woody Harrelsons dad was a convicted hitman who was charged for murdering 2 people I think, at different times, and acquitted of one
@@kenbews458 some suspect he was one of the "hobos" in Dallas, November '63
@@buhdas56 you're right, I never picked that piece of info up before
This was one of the best detective shows I've ever seen. Woody and Mathew were the best actors for their roles. The writing was excellent, and they built a great atmosphere.
As crazy awesome as this show was, it happened to be mostly filmed in a small town in st Charles parish Louisiana. Very small population but I’m from there. My aunt was an extra in the tent revival scene 😂 the little banh mi shop they were eating at outside is actually a snowball (Italian ice) stand. I remember them filming at certain spots around town and actually seeing the story on screen was so profound and beautiful. Such an amazing story.. and you’re right.. s2 and 3 were mediocre.
In my opinion, True Detective Season One is a masterpiece. I have watched it many many time with my wife, and we both agree on this point. Everything about it is just beyond anything attempted in the media. The writing, the characters, the actors, the setting, the direction, the tone, etc... everything. It is my favorite live action series, its not even a close race. I think a lot of people feel this way.
Season 1 is one of the greatest edge of your seat existential thrill rides ever. Wish these 2 would do a follow up season with these characters again.
Also thank you. I needed something good to watch. Posted a ridiculously long video in honor of you on my page recently if you wanna check it out. A Berserk AMV.
As much as I'd like that too, I dont see them doing it. Choles days of being undercover would be a good mini series.
no, I wouldn't want them to touch Season 1 again. It's pretty much apparent with Season 2 and 3 that the main writers behind the series lost their magic or peaked in season 1.
@@jac1207 I'm really trying to be optimistic for season 4 but idk man.
Time is a flat circle... there was a horror movie I watched about this. It was about a cult that two guys left as kids then decided to come back to just to visit later. The story was so good.
Wasn't it a Netflix movie?
@@christianlowman2698 I have no clue. But when I heard those words, I immediately thought of the guy trapped in a sub 10 second time loop where all he does is try to reach the edge of the circle that constrains the loop and explodes right before he escapes his tent.
The endless is the title. Its a sequel of sorts to resolution. The first movie by the directors
“What is that Neichze? Shut the fuck up” is my favorite line in the series.
When Rust talks about his human programming and how the honorable thing to do would to be go extinct sounds like it was ripped from Thomas Ligotti's The Conspiracy Against The Human Race
Alot of dialogue from the show is literally ripped from CatHR.
Ligotti is a treasure and TCATHR is a masterpiece.
Pizzalatto took major influence from Ligotti
@@whitekony1006 I'm sorry but what is that exactly?
@@ravenwhiteduck6460 the book in op's comment, conspiracy against the human race.
I rewatch this 2-3 times per year. It is without a doubt the best single season of a show ever made. I've never seen a show more perfect than season 1. This is a great review, well done.
In addition to references to The King in Yellow, as well as the first season taking place in Louisiana, in “The Call of Cthulhu”, there was a discovery of a cult dedicated to Cthulu in the Louisianan swamps in 1907. There, the New Orleans police discovered the existence of Dagon-human hybrids as well as a small totem of Cthulu, which butterfly effect-ed its way to the awakening of Cthulu. Just something to think about
the ties to the governor of the state reminds me of the two boys on the track case in arkansas
Rust isn't an asshole. He is damaged. Marty is the asshole.
Rust is actually more kind IMO
@@Astorath_the_Grim He's honest.
Yeah, a very common type of hypocritical, run of the mill a**hole. Dime a dozen. Penny a hundred.
His jealous fit over his mistress was perfect.
The Silent Hill tracks really fit the highlights of this show
Big true
Jane "air" not Jane "eerie".
alexandra daddario Is a reason to watch
2 big reasons
I went to the school that this story is based on. They definitely captured the correct vibe.
Brilliant video. Well researched and fair.
Season One of True Detective truly changed the landscape of contemporary television drama. So many people forget or just neglect the importance of Fukunaga’s directorial touch and blindly praise Pizzolatto - who absolutely deserves the praise, but certainly has his own creative inabilities.
Keep up the content!
His creative inability is just not being able to work under a deadline. HBO wanted more seasons, and that got to him and affected the quality of the story. You could tell he worked for years on the first season of the show, and it was very close to him.
@@GannohI think having Cary iron out his pretentiousness helped
The show was already perfect, but then it was like "Hey, check out Alexandra Daddario". Just to spoil us.
Time Point 8:00 Cohle isn’t crazy, remember this is the Lovecraftian universe. Cohle has been studying and meditating on so many wonky subjects that he is essentially a self made Shaman. The spiral in the last episode was Errol Childress’ ever opening gateway to his ascension. It was slowly opening and a few more sacrifices it would be fully open. Only an acolyte or a person with an enhanced awareness could see it and feel it. Cohle’s awareness was such that he saw it and even felt the presence of his daughter and father. That’s why Childress said “Take off your mask”- he knew that Cohle was more than a lawman.
Exactly. Cohle saw a glimpse of the portal into Carcosa.
This comment section is fascinating. I have NEVER met a fan of the show who interpreted Cohle’s hallucinations as literally real. But here you guys are. Hundreds of you. So weird
I gotta watch this show also BUSSY KING BRIDGET FOREVER
The next chapter of the culture war begins.
The trap wars have begun
The troons will suffer
@@Senator-Wary execute order 41%
you guys need to
get a grip
EROL CHILDRESS IS NOT THE FUCKING YELLOW KING, HE WORSHIPS THE YELLOW KING. THE YELLOW KING IS NOT HUMAN. HE IS AN ELDER BEING OF PURE HORROR.
THE PORTAL RUST SAW IN THE FINAL EPISODE WAS A REAL PORTAL THAT WAS THE ENTRANCE TO CARCOSA, THE HOME OF THE YELLOW KING.
Alright, while I broadly agree, I think the idea is moreso that there's "something" and it's "out there". Both the "something" and the "out there" are true factors within this story; to imply that the cult actually knows what's going on, that seems like a stretch.
People who write off the supernatural aspects are telling on themselves - people who worship the comfort that science gives them, and hide from the greater implications of every new thing we learn. An ant, ever closer to us in many ways than we comfortably admit, could never conceive of what a human truly is - a man, though, can consider a God. Within the realm of observation that the mind can conceive of, then, there is already room in consideration for a God. A God, to wit, naturally has the faculties of change and creation that we mostly rely on technology for; he has all the functions within reality baked into himself as natural functions he can assert power over. To say nothing is a God is to say you only define what a God is by your elevating skepticism; you would never let anything have the title. You enter the discussion not in earnest, but for your own comfort.
To say, then, that even from our current philosophical perspective, that the Carcosa he perceived cannot be, is ludicrous and begs for the comforting rationality of our limited knowledge. I do agree with and like the supernatural theory; however, don't get so mad that you shout at TAL for it.
It's very, very easy to get filtered by your own skepticism, no matter how many times you see evidence of proof. Some people need a Shoggoth's willy to smack them in the face before they admit there can be one, and most will then seek a reason why that Shoggoth is not a Shoggoth in supernatural terms, but rather something else that they can emotionally handle.
The supernatural being real doesn't ruin the story; it makes Rust's final realization far, far heavier. He doesn't know if it's true, but he's agreed to a philosophical paradigm that works in both cases.
Whether or not God and the Devil are out there, you still notice it when Good wins something.
I’ve actually come around to think Cole’s final “vision” might be real … we’re given a few clues it might be. Either way, if you rewatch with this perspective, it’s REALLY scary in a different way!
It was real. He saw a glimpse into another world: Carcosa
Strongly disagree.
If you watch the show, Cohle is deeply traumatized by resuming drug use and his encounter with Ledoux. The things they said to him made sense in his mind, played on his preconceptions of predestination and fate. He *believed* them.
There’s nothing outside of Cohle’s specific and uniquely unreliable perspective that suggests the supernatural is real in this show. I understand the fan theory, but there’s nothing there that proves it.
And not only that, the supernatural is irrelevant to the show’s conclusion and value. It doesn’t NEED to be real. It only has to have the suggestive influence on Cohle.
Absolutely my pick for deserted island watching. I could rewatch this over and over and STILL be amazed by the brilliance of the cinematography and the context of it all.
I have rewatched season 1 countless times and I always notice some new little detail each time. Such a fantastic season with incredible atmosphere and world building.
Another cool little not to Call of Cthulhu is the fact that there is also a cult in the Louisiana Bayou in the story that is broken up by a detective named LeGrass, who found them through a series of ritualistic murders.
One of my favorite things about this show is how well the writers did their research on the rural south. A lot of hollywood projects can make southern characters feel like caricatures, but true detective does the opposite of this. A lot of the characters felt like real people i’ve met before, or i’ve walked past on the street, which is rare and hard to do. It made the horror so much more effective for me because of how it hit close to home.
Wish you talked about the gang escape scene in episode 4 cause holy shit was that fucking great. Good work man
The Silent Hill of TV series, every season has diferent levels of quality and cant seem to surpass the quality of it's best entre.
There's one thing that will always bother me as someone born and raised in Louisiana. You see I'm from North-North-Central LA. Further south is where all the iconic landscapes are. But I digress, I was never really bothered by the abandoned homes out in the bayou.
What always bothered me were the homes built out in the fields. The homes themselves were near the road but they weren't farm houses, they were just there and behind them were these empty fields. That always bothered me. The emptyness out there. Maybe it's because I grew up surrounded by forest but all that nothing never felt right.
We got that down in south louisiana too, usually old sharecropper shacks
I absolutely love True Detective. Rust Cohle is a character I truly identify with. If my life if it went more off kilter I could become like him. So much so, a girl at work said he reminded her of me years back.
The story, the mystery all of it is so brilliant. Just amazing from start to finish.
Yeah, I vibe hard with him
Just binged Season 1 it upon your recommendation. The ending is truly masterful. Don't know why I skipped on this one for so long. Great review.
Another cool thing to mention: Alexandra Daddario shows everything in the first season. And I do mean everything.
A man of culture
Thats why I started it. I was delighted that there was a really good show
Tbh I actually preferred the other girl that also shows everything and also has a sex scene with Marty in one of the last episodes. Alexandra is hot, but there’s just something about that other girl that I enjoyed lol
@@TheJok3rManAlex seems a bit prudish
Saw this video months ago, started it, went "you know what i should really watch this show first". Life got in the way for awhile but i literally just finished the 8th episode and now im back to finish this video. I owed a debt.
One thing I enjoy about your movie/show reviews is that you acknowledge the writers, and other stuff they've worked on. They're very undertalked about in the industry, but everyone acknowledges that they're some of the most important.
Thank you Loli! Remember Time is a Flat Circle.
I think the only part you have wrong is that Carcosa was not "a tomb built by settlers centuries before hand", it is instead an old Civil War Battery/Fort, which happens to be on the Childress property.
All in all great video, and one of my favourite shows ever. I've lost count how many times I've seen it. Maybe 3 times a year at least since release.
Also that Childress isn't the Yellow King - Childress worships the Yellow King
I am surprised at how many things TAL got wrong in this review. They were small mistakes but they were oddly inexcusable mistakes. Just pulling stuff out of his butt a couple times
Id say my biggest hangup with season 2 is that the three cop characters were all torn from the same adlib page, and only had one blank space different from each other. Collin Farrell was crooked, Rachel McAdams was sexualy traumatized, and Taylor Kitsch was closeted gay and in denial about it. Other than those three differences, they were all the same carbon copy character, an emotionally broken police detective burnt out on the job and life, but not played by Mathew McConaughey. Vince Vaughn carried that season.
This is my favorite series by far and I watch it one a year. And It got me,a cosmic horror fan, hooked into Lovecraftian Noir Detective stories and the Noir genre in general.
Any other Lovecraftian Noir Detective shows, novels, or books you know?
@@thrice2565Sorry for the late reply but yt doesn't always notify me:
No series but a few books.
First is the Midnight Eye Files book one: The Amulet. Top quality noir/Lovecraftian story. I recommend buying the volume one collection because it comes with two other good noir style stories that while they are not as good as the first one they hold up. Vol 2 is just a few small stories.
There's also the two stories published by the Bizarchives (Weird Tales spiritual successor) The Molybdus Articulate and the Shanghai Horror. Haven't read them but apparently their very good pulp/detective horror stories, the first one delving into pure Lovecraftian horror.
Season 1 of True Detetive remains my all time top non comedy tv show.
I can’t think of any other show that explored grounded cosmic horror like the first season did. The characters were so realistic. All of the stuff these guys go through fucks them up in more ways than one. You rarely see that happen to the extent this show does. The cosmic horror aspect is there but never the focus, the characters are always front and center, and when The Yellow King or Carcosa does pop up, it makes it all the more effective.
Rust is not cuckoo, he sees the world as it really is and that fuels his addiction issues. But Marty is still seemed to be normal? No man. In a functional world, Rust is not cuckoo.
I agree with you. Marty is the real troubled one. He Lies to himself and is full of excuses. Rust knows who he is and doesnt pretend. Terrific acting on both sides❤
❤typo error
You need therapy
@@DarranKernWHO does Not?!
@@SingingSealRiana decent point. Also nobody says Marty is normal
I watched the first season a few times and it's one of my favorite shows, but I've never seen the other seasons; Because of this review I think I'll start watching them now.
Season 2 is...
Meeeehhhh......
Season 3 is still solid, and it gave me a new found respect for Stephen Dorff.
Dont bother
@@DarranKern thanks for the advice
Dude, yes!!! S1 had me so captivated. I was completely immersed and so enveloped in it, I was ready for a cosmic horror beast to appear. Can't praise the first season enough. Great review.
P.s. love how you say "save spoilers for later" while showing the big bad. Hah
"Marty!...this is the place."
Favorite. Show. Ever.
I don’t remember when I started watching your chancel but you have become one of my favorite UA-camr of all time keep up the amazing work man also I’m definitely gonna be buying that merch soon ❤
First thing you should do a video on once spooky season's over: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners.
Follow that up with the Chainsaw Man anime.
Season 1 was absolutely amazing, and I still think about it today. And idk if I could ever rewatch it. That barn scene…. It haunts me…
I don't recall ever hearing about this show before and I really like both actors, thank you for the brief spoiler warning as you said shows like 8 years old but I'm going to go watch it right now just based on the first 12 minutes of this video.
😄👍
Great choice of music. Silent Hill 2 in many ways is very similar to True Detective, like the concept of a broken man as protagonist or goin deeper into the core of darkness.
Very good review, thoroughly enjoyed it.
One of the reasons Season 1 is so good is because it's very focused and clear. No surprise since Pizzaman been writing the scrip for a long time, it turned out his magnum opus.
Season 2 is all over the place, too many characters, too many interactions, antagonists are bleak and forgettable, despite its early play with Lynchean themes like in Mullholland Drive it eventually turns into a plot about some robbery from ages ago. It has many good things and overall a good show but it could've been so much better. I think they should've taken more time to polish the script.
Season 3, as you said, focuses very hard on one detective instead of two, it provides some twists and turns out to be not what people expected, it's different and good in its own way. I am excited that they are making Season 4, Alaskan setting and female lead might turn out very interesting.
Season 3 is quite arguably worse than 2. And 2 was quite bad.
The background music in the video is from Akira Yamaoka's Silent Hill 2 soundtrack. masterpiece of a game. Track titles: "Alone in the town," "True," "World of Madness," and a few others. "Promise Reprise" is amazing.
I think this story also includes elements of The Green man mythology. Also a real life case where the detective who investigated the torture and murder of several young girls. The tapes of the murders haunted him, and he ended up not being able to live with it. Depressing stuff.
"you just need characters who believe it's real" is right. cohle and hart missed this aspect of dora's murder. they dismissed her diary entries as drug induced. which of course may be the case in the natural world but she, childress, ledoux, and possibly the tuttles were operating on a supernatural level and that's what connected them. cohle and hart stopped at the druggie due to a lack of (supernatural) imagination.
we see this natural vs supernatural theme in cohle as well. his substance abuse, hallucinations, and ramblings are attributed by him and others as mental health issues, grounded in the physical natural world. cohle seems to give "logical" explanations for human behavior, citing evolution and psychology. at the end, however, his worldview changes in a way that is more supernatural, talking about feeling his daughter's presence. it's in the supernatural where he finds some kind of redemption.
interestingly, that final scene brings the natural and supernatural together when cohle uses the physical light and dark of the night sky as a metaphor for the supernatural light and dark
"Don't go in expecting a Shogussy"
:(
Love this show. Seen it several times and always catch new things. There is a link between water and carcosa that is only eluded to. There’s a specific scene that shows a boat at the end after discussing carcosa. And its the reason why so many people go missing near water. The boats were probably used to transport. We actually never see the yellow king too which I love. Even childress isn’t the true big evil. They were all worshipers and he was close to ascending before being killed by hart. They born a monster that came back to haunt them. “You know what they did to me…”
S2 holds up if it's binged, but I can see why people hated it having to wait each week for a new episode
Watched the series all the way through, twice. Was very excited to see this thumbnail! Top tier television with a top tier review
Season 1 of True Detective is the single best season of TV I've ever watched.
Season 2 of True Detective is the worst season of TV I've ever finished.
I've seen way worse than season 2 of TD. Just throw a dart at any recent Marvel show.
@@johnnyboy2537 it's the worst I've ever finished. GoT s8 would be the worst had I finished it, and yea I've hated Marvel since Age of Ultron so I'm sure they're bad.
But True Detective S2 was a terrible detective story, and as a sequel to S1 it's an outright crime. Atleast I really hated it. It was the same writer, great cast, and yet I hated every character, every plot-point, every line of dialogue-- as a fan of the genre I found it to be unforgivably boring and occasionally straight up retarded.
there's a random sub-plot in one episode where a cop files sexual harassment claims against the lead female cop cuz he's mad at her, so she goes to rapist counseling and when they ask why she's there she answers "You know, I just really like big dicks."
That's the whole scene, it serves no purpose and is cringe af. There's a scene where Vince Vaughn's wife is giving him a sloppy toppy and when he can't get it up she says-- verbatum-- "Suck your own dick."
This is not played for laughs. Vaughn's character does nothing but furrow his brow for the entire series. Colin Ferril beats the shit out of a child for no reason, zero consequence or development.
There's a million characters, none of them have a personal stake in the narrative and all of them are unlikable.
You're just meant to take these miserable people seriously. It's pointlessly depressing and has none of the heart of S1 and no identity of it's own. It is without merit.
0/10
I hold Season 3 dearly in my heart as it was my first exposure to this series. And mostly because I remember tuning in to watch each episode with mom and dad when it was all new. Then dad passed away on December 2019 right before the entire world went insane. Memories of watching Season 3, "Escape at Dannemora" and the "Catch 22" miniseries with dad are some of the dearest memories of those final couple of years of calm before the storm in my life. I absolutely believe you and many others about Season 1 being the best, I haven't seen it yet, but I'm just saying that even after doing it Season 3 will very likely still have a sweet spot for me.
I also agree on Cary Fukunaga being a damn good creator with a very few duds. I remember enjoying "Maniac" (another nice memory of those "calm before the storm" years) and I actually got to read his treatment for the first part of the "It" movie adaptation and while there's obviously differences, I was surprised at how much of his script was kept in the finished product.
I remember reading how some threw Cary under the bus with the argument "He wanted to keep the controversial sewer orgy from the book!" which I have severe doubts. On the other hand in his treatment I noticed that the big difference is that MIKE and his family gets a LOT more flashing out than how he ended up being in the finished film where he's instead one of the least flashed out Losers.
Primarily, in the original script Mike's father gets beaten to death by Bowers' evil cop father and at the hospital before dying he confesses to Mike how he encountered Pennywise himself when the KKK set ablaze the Black Spot bar and he saw Pennywise snatching up the panicking black people in the river. And in the flashback just like in the book his fellow survivor of the Black Spot fire is Dick Hallorann from "The Shining".
I think the studio wanted to trim down Mike's importance and Fukunaga was having none of that and that's the reason reason he left for creative differences. I also wouldn't be surprised if he left because they wanted to direct the movie with conventional jumpscares.
Another thing I loved in his script was how insane and surreal Pennywise's lair was described, it definitely tackled more into the cosmic aspect of the character. Man, I wish he didn't leave the project and got to do "Chapter 2" his way and changing anything he wants if it means the adult section/ending won't suck. Overall, I do agree that "Chapter 1" is good because they sticked with 75% of his vision.
Fukunaga is why NTTD is as good as it is, because it does have a lot of good in it, especially in comparison to Spectre. But yeah, this show is fucking awesome.
Spectre is the worst bond movie ever made. Makes Quantum of Solace look like Citizen Kane
TL:DR Watch in this order for a build to a great finish: 2, 3, 1. If you're only going to watch one, it's S1 all the way. Good work here.
The allegations against the director seem to be a complete nothing burger. "Grooming" between adults isn't a thing, adults are - in fact - allowed to persue relationships (sexual and/or romantic and/or otherwise) with eath other, age gap or not.
. . . .the Thing about grooming IS Not really someone being underaged, you can manipulate and condition someone in a weaker Position No Matter their age.
And Just because adult relationships are mostly legal does Not Always mean they should BE presued
On the subject of the "believability of the detectives' actions in accordance with SOP": Do keep in mind what time and age in which the show's past is set in. Crooked cops, as well as good chiefs willing to cover up their agents bending the law to do good work, was probably more common than we'll ever be made privy to. That's part of the charm of the future interview sections; two rookies, every now and then, can hardly believe what they're hearing about the way our leads conducted their investigations.
It's good stuff.
On the topic of whether or not the cosmic horror is real: Cole witnessing the universe in Carcosa... Could be drugs, but could also be real. The meta analysis is primarily the most resonable one though.
S1 True Detective and Silent Hill 2 music goes so fucking well together.
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this one ever since you mentioned it on stream. Always a good time with you sir. Keep up the good work!
I think you misread the character of Rust. He was the only self-governed, self-driven character in the show. Everyone else needed the church/community/family/a debt to stay decent and on-task. He did not.
He was a hero archetype. Just a non-traditional one.
Disagree
Yeah!
7:19 Cole was even able to smell it at the locker room lol
Have you tried watching Fargo, which is also a seasonal anthology crime drama?
Loli what the fuck. First Berserk, now True detective....get out of my head.