Power a car subwoofer with HT Receiver! - Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- This is how you can power your car subwoofer with a home theatre amplifier. The amplifier I used in the video is a 270W Sony STR-DH130 Stereo Receiver, and the subwoofer is an MTX Audio 5515-44 Dual 4-Ohm 400W sub. Got any questions? Leave it in the comments and I will reply!
Thanks for watching ;)
No such thing as underpowering a sub, your subs wattage ratting is just a thermal limit and has in reality nothing to do with output... a great sales pitch is all it is!
Driving a sub with 1w can not hurt it so long as the signal is not clipping the power rails in the amp... basic stuff
If you got the HT amp/receiver for free there's no reason to not use it... but for the price of buying one you can buy proper plate amp or a PA amp and a basic active Xover if you main HT amp hasnt got a inbuilt xover.
If your looking for a lowpass filter for your subwoofers you can use a crossover from old vintage tower speakers fisher tower speakers they are commonly found inside fisher tower speakers
what a fool! just use pre outs to a active crossover & then into power amp for sub/s.
BECSUSEthe HEAT he speaks of is inefficency which will burn its components out damaging everything
A speaker is a speaker. You can power any speaker or car sub with a home receiver. I had my MTX box hooked up to my Kenwood receiver in my bedroom all through high school. The neighbors didn't like it though.
Absolutely not you can’t run any speaker on anything
Running a car subwoofer without a low pass filter sends extremely high frequencies to a car subwoofer which can shorten the life of a car subwoofer because it can heat up the voice coil and damage the car subwoofer I've ran a car subwoofer without a low pass filter before and sent really high frequencies to a car subwoofer before but I only did it for a few seconds and didn't do it for too long because it would have blown the subwoofer that's why I recommend using a low pass filter for car subwoofers because you won't blow your car subwoofers if you use a low pass filter
It's been running for years without any issue.
@@EndermanEngineering yaa, me too
@@EndermanEngineering, nothing will happen, if low frequency also, goes to the subwoofer, together with mid & high sry for poor english
This will terribly underpower your car subwoofer. Don't do this unless the wattage on the stereo is very high
+Albert White Its 400W RMS, I was driving it at about 200-250W. Yes its underpowered, but it was definitely loud enough for a large room. A sub won't get damaged from being underpowered, only overpowered :)
+Enderman LP pretty sure over powering a subwoofer is almost impossible. under powerig a sub is not good for your sub. look it up. but non the less good stuff.
+jesse ver I think you're a bit confused...Underpowering a speaker = lowering current, this means it plays quieter. If underpowering a speaker was bad for it that means we have to listen to everything at 100% max volume, and this is not true. Overpowering a speaker sends extremely high current into the voice coil, which is what makes the driver blow. You can see plenty of videos of subwoofers getting blown and having their voice coils catching on fire. This is why subwoofers (and all speakers) have a maximum wattage rating. If you exceed this rating by a lot, that is when the voice coil gets destroyed.
+Enderman LP i agree with you. problem is with under powering a sub is that 99% of people turn the gain up all the way and that send clipped signals. over powering is ofcourse possible. but not possible if 200watts above rms is given. to blow a sub takes quite a bit. i should have explained a little better. ;)
+jesse ver Oh you're talking about clipping, I see, yeah it is bad when a sine wave clips then because the voice coil can get a squared-off wave, which causes the coil to heat up more. I did make sure though that I was sending the subwoofer an unclipped signal at full volume. :)
I actually tried this with 2 dual dws12 car subwoofers from Walmart and realized that it's nowhere near as powerful as a car amplifier and realized that the subwoofers were severely underpowered by 50 watts rms when I powered them with a vintage realistic sta 785 stereo receiver I cranked it up the volume really high on the receiver and the whole house was shaking but there wasn't a whole lot of rattling only my bedroom door rattles
just get a plate amp or run a subwoofer amp from a car off a 12v power supply
dwayne dub you can use plate amplifiers to power car subwoofers indoors but the problem with plate amplifiers is that they are designed for 8 ohm subwoofers and if you run 4 ohm car subwoofers on a plate amplifier you could potentially damage a plate amplifier
The easiest way to run car subwoofers indoors is to use a pro audio amp if your receiver only has a subwoofer pre amp output and not a amplified subwoofer output
Yup, also get much better quality, but that involves spending money :)
Travis Gulley waif can you tell me how to set this up because I have a recurved with a subwoofer output and I wanna hook up a 12 and I have a amp with it but idk how to set it up
ur sub is playing full range and that enclosure isnt meant to be used with high excursion drivers
You can damage your sub by playing mids trough it. You can either get a low pass filter from another speaker or get a power amplifier with sub filter that would be ideal for power and the filter.
This is actually a myth. You won't damage a subwoofer by playing high frequencies though it, it's just that either it will sound very bad (muffled) or the cone won't move at all. The amplifier will also heat up more because of wasted energy. HOWEVER the reverse is dangerous, you can certainly damage tweeters and midrange drivers by playing low frequencies through them, because they have far less power handling capabilities and will blow almost immediately. I have ruined several tweeters this way.
Ideally yes you would use a low pass filter for it to only play regular subwoofer frequencies and sound good.
FSXgta can I hook up car subwoofers directly up to the subwoofer output of a DVD player
Enderman LP can car subwoofers be hooked directly up to the subwoofer output of a DVD player
No, it's probably a preamp output, DVD players don't have amplifiers built in.
Enderman LP well okay, sorry for late response I don't think I got notified or I missed it
Can we connect car stereo to AV receiver or stereo amplifier ?
Too much mids for my liking.
Techno4more from the subwoofer? or in general?
you can always add a high pass filter to the sub so you only get bass from it
+Techno4more he needs a low pass filter in there , to many mids for my liking also ....
+88s10Durango Yeah I have one now it was not installed for the video. With a proper sub amp there would be no need for a low pass sine it only outputs the low frequencies
+Fearbleeds Im kinda new to this stuff. But how can i get my mids an highs perfect? or is that possible?
+Dylan Smiley Mids and highs need to be played through a midrange speaker and tweeter, not a subwoofer. Studio monitors are made to be as perfect (flat) as possible
with that cable left and right are not bridged. you just receive the left channel fron the tip, the right channel is shorted. mono plugs are not meant for stereo sockets.
You're right.
Enderman LP can a car amplifier and a car head unit be hooked up to a home theater receiver
low pass filter from Parts Express, $30 ish , HT subwoofer plate amp $100 and up.... Rockford Fosgate made a line of subs that were 8 ohms.... i think fusion did too.... lots of work arounds.... like, dime a dozen to pick up a Kenwood KM-208 or 207 power amp of craigs list.... 150 wpc...
Av receivers are 8 ohm stable if you run 4 ohm speakers or 4 ohm subwoofers on them wired at 4 ohms the receiver will shut off when you crank the volume up past 50 percent volume also the receiver will put out more power than what it's supposed to put out and the receiver will work harder than it's supposed to but speakers and subwoofers wired at 2 ohms is dangerous because the receiver will get extremely hot and capacitors inside the receiver will explode and the receiver will malfunction and fry on you
So I have read somewhere on the internet before and apparently some people say that you can blow a subwoofer if the subwoofer enclosure is too big and that the subwoofer bottoms out is this true or is this a myth if it's a myth will my subwoofer be just fine
If you're overpowering a subwoofer then it can bottom out in a ported or large enclosure.
I have a question I have 4 kickers l7 2 in one box to make the set in the front of my living room how can I connect them without the home theater receiver to prevent from damaging it is there another way? If so also how can I make it sound with my denon home theater receiver?
Very slim foam for this sub. I like the design but still u should have given it more power. I have designed my own power amp for my jbl 400watts sub.
So it turns out that you can run a car subwoofer as a normal speaker and run really high frequencies through it and the subwoofer will not actually blow because it turns out that it's a myth after all that high frequencies can blow your subwoofers
Glad you learned something new :)
MTX JACKHAMMER.
Sounds horrible
Hola amigo ese receptor es de apenas 100 watts maximo..lee el manual de usuario en las espesificasiones...no lo que dice la caja que es mentira..pon le parlantes de 80 watts maximo y veras la diferencia...
Quick question can a receiver shut off if you crank the volume past halfway
I've had mine at 100% with this sub and no problem. It does get hot though, so I added fans to cool it.
If the impedance is too low, like 1 ohm or 0.5 ohm it overheats and shuts down for protection, does not get damaged.
Do car subwoofers get warm if you run them for a long period of time
Can car subwoofers in a smaller enclosure take more power without bottoming out
In sealed enclosures yeah. IDK about ported.
You should video the back wires do we see
Can you power 90 watt wall hanging speakers with a home theater receiver that puts out 120 watts per channel
Yup. The 120W is only at full power, and speakers can handle peak wattage higher than the RMS without damage.
Does the subwoofer still make windows rattle when powered off a receiver
Yeah but not as much as if you had a high powered car amp. The receivers are only like 100-200W per channel. If you have a dual voice coil subwoofer (like in the video) you can attach one coil to each channel and effectively double the power.
Pretty legit!
what have u made to keep your sony receiver cool
according to the specs. the QTS is extremely high. more suited for a sealed enclosure
it really doesnt sound all that good man just being honest here
You think that the microphone on a cheap point and shoot camera can properly pick up the low frequencies that subwoofers play? .....
Enderman LP if my old 5 megapixel cam can atleast give an idea of whats playing and this cam witch is far beter btw cant then yeah im not hating on the speaker but it still shouldve given off a small idea atleast of how it sounds not just noise but thats just my opinion man
The image of this camera is ok, the microphone isn't. Irl it doesn't sound like it does in the video at all. The point of the video was to show that it works. If you want to know what it actually sounds like then you need to build it and listen to it yourself. Or I need to buy an external mic, but that probably won't happen for a while.
Enderman LP dude its fine i just told you how i felt on the audio and atleast you also know that in the future something better is needed hell even i want to get a new cam to record better audio etc. With
Yeah I wasn't sure if you were talking about my camera audio or the audio from the sub, cause nobody should judge the audio from the sub based on what they hear through my camera :P
that doesn't look like 270 watts
***** Its a 270W two channel sony stereo receiver135W per channelI have each channel connected to one voice coil giving a total of 270W without bridging
The sub is barely moving!
***** It's an 800W sub... of course its not going to have max excursion at 270W but its still loud enough to fill a 500+ sq ft room
are you sure the 270w is RMS and not peak? cos it looks like it's getting barely any power at all
***** yeah 270W at 8ohmsim actually running them on 4 ohms per coil so its probably more than that, but the specs don't list power output at 4 ohmsalso irl the cone moves way more than it looks like in the video, my camera doesn't pick it up very wellkeep in mind this is a 15" sub with an inverted surround, so the surface area is huge compared to a 12" sub, which is why it can produce higher output with less excursion
Cool, but subs aren't made for doing all the work so it is very pointless the way you set it up.
+Stolz TheBest No, this is just for the sub. I have other speakers for all other sound frequencies. Using just a sub for music is horrible.
+Enderman LP Like i said, the way you set it up (Just the sub making sound) is pointless.
It was a test...to see if it was possible to bridge a receiver...im not going to set up 10 other speakers if I just want to see if something works
So what happens when you hook another receiver up to the subwoofer output of a home theater receiver
It will receive low frequencies only and in mono.
So if I take my LS10 Solo barrick woofer which is 600 watts rms and dvc I believe... the jbh monoblock amp 650 watt rms out of my car....power those up and get the signal from my active sub in my home theater? From my av receiver I have an active sub running from the sub out port. Can I disconnect it from my sub in on the active sub....put a y adapter to the analog and run another set to my car amp for audio signal? The amp has low pass filter, but if it’s coming out of active sub won’t the crossover in active sub already take care of the mids and highs? If it’s possible I’m about to have a really good time tonight? If not don’t crucify me because I am just curious🤷🏻♂️ my closet has 2 pioneer 10 inch woofers, 1 pioneer 12 inch premier! 1 kicker 10 woofer, 12 inch black mamba dvc woofer, 2 different 900 watt amps! Along with 3 av receivers...one is a Yamaha Rx -v685..a Yamaha htr- 5650...and a Technics Sa-dx930...and that beast lil L7 running off the mono block in my car 🤔.....if anything cool is possible with what I have please reply because it’s about to get crazy up in this bitch🤪
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You would need to find the audio output from your music deck. You would also need 120v ac in your car.
The entire point of this video is to use a sub in your home, not a car. If you want it in your car buy a proper subwoofer amplifier and get it professionally installed.
Can 25 watt speakers be hooked up to a home theater receiver
Yeah but be careful you don't blow them with the volume up too high.
What are you saying? SaabWoofer?
Lol I like how people say mtx is cheap
I've hooked up my car's woofer to my reciever and it works but it plays more than just the bass, it plays like a normal speaker that just has tons more bass than treble (it is a rockford 15 inch btw)
+leaksxc hm, that sub much have a larger frequency range then. There are a few things you can do: 1) connect that receiver to the subwoofer output of a PC that has 5.1 or 7.1 audio (the ones that have like 4-6 audio jacks at the back) 2) add a low pass filter either before or after the receiver (I did this using a low pass filter I took from another sub, worked pretty well) or 3) turn the bass all the way up and treble all the way down on the receiver (this is not the best bass, but it sorta works) I would personally do option 1 if possible
+Enderman LP jesus christ i fucking hella appreciate that reply :o ill try them all :) much love brother
+leaksxc You're welcome :) good luck
not bad, but you just cant use the receiver for other speakers if you hook the subwoofer up to it
as long as you hook it up correctly, and start with the volume low, it should not. The only thing which might damage your amp is if the subwoofer is really low impedance (like 4 or 2 ohms) and will cause the amp to heat up if you put it near max volume. The receiver I used is from sony and has temperature and overcurrent protection, and it still works fine. Of course you do this at your own risk, but for me (and the sony receiver I used) it worked with 0 issues.
Hey I have a question how much do Home theater receivers and stereo receivers cost on amazon and at a store
Depends on the quality and features. I bought a stereo receiver for $50 from craigslist
Enderman LP i just got a Yamaha htr 5440 home theater receiver for 60 dollars
I would like to set up a subwoofer in my room.
would it be possible to run a subwoofer off a home amplifier. I have looked around and I have seen home amplifiers that can give off a 4000 watt peak and a 1100 watt rms.
does this amplifier run by its self or does it need to be connected to a receiver?
because if you can connect a home amplifier to your home receiver shouldn't that produce plenty of power to say power two home tower speakers and a subwoofer all in the wattage range the amplifier and receiver supply?
a receiver is basically a speaker amplifier but if you have a dedicated amplifier like an inuke then you don't need to do this, you can hook it up directly to your source(like a PC) or a "preamp" subwoofer output that some receivers have
+Enderman LP so if I get the home amplfier I can directly hook it up to my speakers and subwoofer and directly hook it up to my computer to play music?
no, you can only power a subwoofer with a receiver if you don't hook up speakers to it. I would recommend you get a home receiver to power your speakers that has a "preamp subwoofer out" port on the back, then connect that to a subwoofer amplifier which powers your subwoofer.
+Enderman LP alright thank you very much!
what receiver would you recommend that would work best with the set up I am wanting?
+Enderman LP I have a 12" subwoofer. 4ohm, single voice coil, 250rms and 1000w peak.
how would I get enough power to power it and also be able to power two decent tower speakers?
I'm a little new to all of this and I'm wanting to know what would be best for what I want. I'm willing to spend $400-$500 on the receiver and amplfier.
God thoes spekers in the background scream vintage
+Terfay777 Terfay777 yup
now I have upgraded to studio monitors :)
Nice diy fan 👍
Does spreading the speakers far apart in the room make the music sound louder
No, it just gives more even coverage of a large room.
making it high does foe mids and highs, subwoofers alway stay together
Can we connect a car subwoofer with Sony STR-DH790 ?
Yes but you need a subwoofer amplifier
Not without 2nd amp you use its pre outs to go to 2nd amp & a active Xover for bass management!!!
@@joeyallcock1011 Oh yes definitely I'm going to use an amplifier. Thank you 👍
So if you have a sub with only one coil do you still have to bridge the left and right
Nope.
Enderman LP I have a question so I have a yamaha 500 watt receiver and a kicker comp S and when I put the receiver on 7ch stereo the sub don't give alot of bass but when I put it on direct stereo the smaller speaker distorts how do I fix this
What smaller speaker? If you're using a sub directly connected to a receiver like this, there should be no other speakers connected to the receiver. The volume needs to be up a lot for the sub to move, and that would make any other speakers way too loud.
Enderman LP so then only the sub can play?
Enderman LP I was planning to use it in a home theater
Reply me fast
Good!
ok so I have a 1000w Pyle sub that has a rca cable and I have a Yamaha av receiver is there any way I could hook that up?
And the RCA is directly hooked up to the sub with no amplifier or anything? Usually a subwoofer with an RCA jack is a powered subwoofer.
+Enderman LP yeah it's not powered or nothing it's a www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EM7C85C/ref=s9_psimh_gw_d0_g267_i1?pf_rd_p=1c5f02ae-183e-4906-990b-5a293310a66c&pf_rd_s=blackjack-personal-1&pf_rd_t=Gateway&pf_rd_i=mobile&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=HH8PZCW4QEGMAD8A31HJ I got it and idk what to do with it at this point
Oh yeah, so that connection on the back you can plug that straight into your receiver with a speaker cable and it should work.
+Enderman LP I tried with a Yamaha av receiver and nothing happened
And you turned it up a lot? If your receiver works, and the sub isn't damaged, hooking it up with a simple cable should work. You're using a speaker cable, right? Not an RCA cable? Because those are very different things.
How would i set this up with other speakers from the receiver as well
+LNP Gaming (Ginger Gamer) You would need to use a different receiver, because the subwoofer volume needs to be a lot higher than regular speaker volume
+Enderman LP thanks for the quick reply, so i would run an input lets say from my computer out to two amps one running the sub and another running the mids and highs?
+LNP Gaming (Ginger Gamer) yup, that's how I did it :)
+Enderman LP Awesome thank you
+LNP Gaming (Ginger Gamer) you're welcome :)
Can a subwoofer be mounted into drywall by cutting a hole into the drywall