What is a Sufi? Sufism, Tasawwuf? Islamic Mysticism?

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  • @Det.Ash12
    @Det.Ash12 5 років тому +45

    Mashallah, this Mufti unlike others in the West has the knowledge of the wide spectrum of Sufism which ranges from permissable all the way to shirk and kufr, while others say all of what they do is misguidance. He is correct there are Tariqa's which are purely based on sunnah and proper aqeedah and others lead astray.

  • @MrMiddlepath
    @MrMiddlepath 7 років тому +13

    jazakallahukhair. thank you for the video. May Allah reward you akhi

    • @user-zm3hq1gf4y
      @user-zm3hq1gf4y 3 роки тому

      Tasawuf - Zuhud and purification of the soul.
      VS.
      Tasawuf - spiritualism and mystic way (Pir, Awliyah and Murid).

  • @Humbleanalyst
    @Humbleanalyst 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing. May Allah swt bless you enormously

  • @manofihsan8300
    @manofihsan8300 5 років тому +2

    As salaamu alaikum, May Allah bless Mufti Muneer. He’s doing great work.

  • @branineimages3358
    @branineimages3358 5 років тому

    وفيت و كفيت بارك الله فيكم

  • @abukids2176
    @abukids2176 5 років тому +11

    I just find your lectures they’re amazing Jazaakalaah bro.

  • @abdulmalikh5841
    @abdulmalikh5841 5 років тому +1

    Jazaka Allahu khiran

  • @thabrooklynfellah
    @thabrooklynfellah 3 роки тому +1

    Hamdulillah u explained further brother may Allah reward you

  • @Maliknoor2005
    @Maliknoor2005 24 дні тому

    Barakallah fi dunya and akhira ❤️🤍

  • @ibraheem896
    @ibraheem896 6 років тому +8

    To those following their desires, humble yourselves and follow the truth when it comes to you.
    Listen to 14:15

  • @AbdulMajeedHamid
    @AbdulMajeedHamid 5 років тому +21

    Nice answer, I don't like it when some people just blindly condemn all sect without actually given their students a concrete knowledge on it. Thank you brother for the explanations.

  • @shubelmiah3520
    @shubelmiah3520 3 місяці тому

    What a beautiful response. May allah accept from you and I

  • @GloryBelongsTo_ALLAH
    @GloryBelongsTo_ALLAH 4 роки тому +1

    May Allah unite all of us!!!

  • @youngomniverse35
    @youngomniverse35 Рік тому +2

    Mufti made some good points, but the things he's speaking of are by no means mainstream Sufism. It would be very easy to find Sufis who reject all of what the Shaykh condemned, not only that but you find major scholars who agreed with certain stances on things often labelled as being "deviant Sufism". For example ibn Hajar Asqualani supported celebrating the mawlid, meanwhile you can find Sufis such as the Deobandis who regard it as bidah.
    When it comes to Tsawwuff, major Sufi critics such as Ibn Taymiyyah himself, is that Sufism is from the sunnah and from the Salaf.
    Ibn Taymiyya (661 - 728 AH) “Tasawwuf has realities and states of experience which they talk about in their science. Some of it is that the Sufi is that one who purifies himself from anything which distracts him from the remembrance of Allah and who will be so filled up with knowledge of the heart and knowledge of the mind to the point that the value of gold and stones will be the same to him. And Tasawwuf is safeguarding the precious meanings and leaving behind the call to fame and vanity in order to reach the state of Truthfulness, because the best of humans after the prophets are the Siddiqeen, as Allah mentioned them in the verse: “(And all who obey Allah and the Apostle) are in the company of those on whom is the grace of Allah: of the prophets, the sincere lovers of truth, the martyrs and the righteous; Ah! what a beautiful fellowship.” (an-Nisa’, 69,70)
    “…some people criticised Sufiyya and Tasawwuf and they said they were innovators, out of the Sunnah, but the truth is they are striving in Allah’s obedience [mujtahidin fi ta’at-illahij, as others of Allah’s People strove in Allah’s obedience. So from them you will find the Foremost in Nearness by virtue of his striving [as-saabiq ul-muqarrab bi hasab ijtihadihi]. And some of them are from the People of the Right hand [Ahl al-Yameen mentioned in Qur’an in Sura Waqi’ah], but slower in their progress.
    … And this is the origin of Tasawwuf. And after that origin, it has been spread and [tasha’abat wa tanawa’at] has its main line and its branches. [Majmu’a Fatawa Ibn Taymiyya al-Kubra, Vol. 1 1, Book of Tasawwuf, p. 497].

  • @windfal7
    @windfal7 4 роки тому +4

    Ibn Taymiya R called Shk Abdul Kader Jeelani RA as "my shaikh". Here you are generalising.
    Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal RA spend time with Bisher Al hafi RA. When asked why do you spend time with him when you yourself is a renowned scholar, he said bisher Al hafi knows Allah better!

  • @habibbeyah1
    @habibbeyah1 7 років тому +14

    ILM never stops

  • @Rabbihdini
    @Rabbihdini Рік тому +3

    Astaghfirullaaah no one from the sufi scholars said a waliy is better then prophet ...even higher status of awliya there aren't better than the lower sahabi this is aqida of sufism

    • @sounnahsenegaltv
      @sounnahsenegaltv Рік тому

      I know many of sufi speaker here in my country who said worst
      Someone had said his shaykh had crated Allah wal ‘iyaazubillah

  • @serpz123
    @serpz123 7 років тому +6

    Great explanation, thank you.

  • @each1teach1
    @each1teach1 7 років тому +1

    Asalam alykm wrahmatullah,
    Brother, you said if you see the prophet in your dream and he ordered you to do something, that is munkar? please elaborate

    • @mr.s6607
      @mr.s6607 7 років тому +10

      Salaam I think he meant if you say the prophet ordered you to change a ruling. He said some examples of like a person saying they don't have to pay zakat or they say the prophet said I don't have to pray I'm above that level now etc.... I think that's what he meant Allah knows best

    • @ahmed2180
      @ahmed2180 3 роки тому

      If ur dream according to shariah your dream is correct, u can act upon it.
      Sometimes if ur heart doesn't have ability to recieve the dream , then may shaitaan induces his voice which makes u understand that against to shariah.
      So there u should kept silent.

  • @alhassangangu4357
    @alhassangangu4357 3 роки тому +3

    Imam Sha'rani said in his Mizanul Kubra that you cannot practice suffism until you must fiqh because fiqh will keep you away from innovation.

    • @lumiam6982
      @lumiam6982 Рік тому

      And Imam Malik said a similar thing. He also said do not be a fiqhi without practising tasawwuf or you will be corrupted. Imam Shafi'i in his poetry made a strong warning and advised the ummah to be both a sufi and fiqhi and not one without the other.

    • @thaknobodi
      @thaknobodi 11 місяців тому

      Interesting

  • @abudi88ful
    @abudi88ful 7 років тому +2

    what is the proper way to make Ghusul? i heard there are multiple ways, i heard you can just pour water on your head. But now we have showers and baths, what is the full proper way to make Ghusul? and there are two types correct? one that is mandatory after ejaculation, and one that is not mandatory, like Friday Ghusul?

    • @MohamedAhmed-cz8mo
      @MohamedAhmed-cz8mo 6 років тому +2

      Abdelrahman Elagami
      You wash your hands thrice. Then wash your private parts with your left hand. Then make wudhu as normal. Then once you finish wudhu, pour water over the head three times, pour water over the left shoulder then the right shoulder. I think this is the best thing to do because it is what the prophet used to do. The prophet said "He who does not follow my Sunnah is not from me". So I think it's best to be safe and follow what he did. However don't take my word for it, always go around and ask how to make wudhu, start with your local imam.

    • @wahidullahpaktin4861
      @wahidullahpaktin4861 6 років тому +1

      Abdelrahman Elagami
      Abolution or ghosul which is obligatory on a person. Has specific way or has 3 things incombint which without them ghusol is not complete, They are
      1 wash your month 3 times
      2 wash your Nose 3 times
      3 wash whole body.

    • @norar6464
      @norar6464 5 років тому

      Abdelrahman Elagami not two types but a minimum and the optimal

    • @muhammedaliaydin1357
      @muhammedaliaydin1357 2 роки тому

      @@MohamedAhmed-cz8mo You start with your right shoulder

    • @abdulallahi1083
      @abdulallahi1083 Рік тому

      It's too shower and do the same things you would do in wudu also cleaning the Private area three times

  • @saddiqfavors1693
    @saddiqfavors1693 Рік тому +3

    He is wrong tassawuf means the way of spiritul purification,comes from the word ihsan.

  • @abukids2176
    @abukids2176 5 років тому

    Tell the truth brother and the truth will set us free from Shirk.

  • @yknows3158
    @yknows3158 2 роки тому +2

    Did the prophet tell us to be a sufi or a muslim? Islam is simple. Believe in Allah and follow sunnah to be a good muslim.

    • @pointdot094
      @pointdot094 2 роки тому +4

      Did the Prophet ﷺ ask you to be a Hambali???? Please be simple.
      What a nonsensical comment.

    • @yknows3158
      @yknows3158 2 роки тому +1

      @@pointdot094 no he did not.. i am not a “hambali” or any other name. Just Muslim so keep your nonsense labels to yourself

    • @pointdot094
      @pointdot094 2 роки тому +1

      @@yknows3158
      Don’t be an idiot is all I’m saying. No one says I’m “Sufi” just like no one says I’m a “Hambali” . What’s more important is what does it mean when you say these things.
      So when I say I’m a Sufi, I mean I’m following the ways and path of the Prophet ﷺ and the Sahaba. According to my definition of Sufi, the Sahaba were the true Sufis. To be a Sufi the equipment is to study ‘Aqeedah and Fiqh. Any deviation from Sharia’ is not Tasawwuf.
      Don’t be a jahil and you will grow in life and deen.

    • @yknows3158
      @yknows3158 2 роки тому +2

      @@pointdot094 you are describing yourself well.. according to your definition? No one cares about your definition. What is a fact is that the sahaba did not call upon saints to intercede for them on the last day or try and help them in any way after death.

    • @amandaa3713
      @amandaa3713 Рік тому

      Silly comment

  • @Gog3453
    @Gog3453 3 роки тому +3

    It comes from the science of ihsan. One of the 3 Islamic sciences mentioned in the Hadith of Gabriel

  • @kareemsayfullah7243
    @kareemsayfullah7243 3 роки тому

    Why don't mufti make more videos?

  • @wissamsf9491
    @wissamsf9491 3 роки тому

    Assalamu alakum, I have a question, my dad sent me to a Turkish islamic boarding school in London, the do a practice called rabita, they say we connect our hearts with nuur and it's a connection from Allah, to the prophet Mohammad pbuh, to a sheikh, then to us and light enters our heart, the school wants me to do this but it sounds very weird as I have never heard anything like this before, I have a feeling this is shirk or something.

    • @shahee6579
      @shahee6579 3 роки тому

      Sounds fishy to me

    • @mrs8768
      @mrs8768 2 роки тому

      It’s not part of the shariah so avoid it

  • @sp3ckedout224
    @sp3ckedout224 2 роки тому +7

    Sufism is literally Following the Quran, Sunnah, Hadith and going beyond the ordinary person in terms of doing extra dhikr and connecting with Allah. That’s all that Sufism is. Sufism isn’t a label, many Muslims are Sufi without being labelled Sufi.

    • @sp3ckedout224
      @sp3ckedout224 2 роки тому +3

      @@MuhammadAhmed-qh7ut I understand what you are saying but in terms of Ibn Arabi and the views that “Allah is everywhere”. How do you know that they don’t literally mean that Allah is everywhere but instead that Allah is all seeing and all hearing, not that Allah is literally everywhere physically. They mean it in metaphoric terms

  • @marquisarrington9379
    @marquisarrington9379 Рік тому

    In Hadith Rasulallah Salallahu Alayhi Wa Salaam said that he can be seen in dreams. And that if you see him its really him because the jinn cant imitate his form.

  • @ammirza8323
    @ammirza8323 6 років тому +5

    Now you tell me whatever he said in the video, did Aaqa Muhammad SAW practiced it.
    Did he left the worldly life. Did he remained unmarried. Did he danced the way these Sufi do ?? (Na'uzu bILLAH)

    • @serkandogan9506
      @serkandogan9506 5 років тому +2

      Sufi people get married too :) and they highly recommend it to their students
      Plus they dont dance
      They do zikr as prophet Muhammad sallallahu aleyhisselatu vesselam used to do

  • @sapienceuniversalsolution6151
    @sapienceuniversalsolution6151 4 роки тому

    جذكله خير
    أنا عهبك لله

  • @Bobbyrasuli
    @Bobbyrasuli Рік тому

    We mean Sufis Like Shaykh Ibrahim Osi Efa, Shaykh Hamza Yusef! They are from Ahyl Sunna!

  • @harunskywalker4942
    @harunskywalker4942 5 років тому +2

    Not a good exposition as you have mixed between different types of mutasawwifa. Next time take the opinion of Ibn taymiyyah on the issue

  • @jaggafeen
    @jaggafeen 6 років тому +4

    lanat on all those who associate partners with Allah lord of the supreme throne

  • @UltimateFreekickerzdok
    @UltimateFreekickerzdok 4 роки тому +2

    Bro you have misunderstood several things about sufism..

  • @siyawashnishat
    @siyawashnishat Рік тому

    Al Ehsan or tasawoof is true

  • @UltimateFreekickerzdok
    @UltimateFreekickerzdok 4 роки тому +13

    Wahabis/salafis really had a lot of money to spread this ideologi.. We ahle sunnah will not let you hijack the term 'ahle sunnah' InshaAllah!

    • @nazaninkhan492
      @nazaninkhan492 3 роки тому

      What's wahabi/salafi?

    • @mughal_r9374
      @mughal_r9374 3 роки тому +2

      @@nazaninkhan492 you know very well my guy

    • @adam6543
      @adam6543 2 роки тому +2

      @@nazaninkhan492 it is someone who follows Qur'an and sunnah and when they differ on something, they don't go back to imam so and so but back to Qur'an and sunnah

    • @PSNloversalu
      @PSNloversalu Рік тому +1

      @@nazaninkhan492 they don't like People learning Islam in Saudi Arabia, hence, 'salafi'/'wahabi'. Even though only Allah is 'Al-Wahab', dunno why they call people 'Wahab'.

    • @amandaa3713
      @amandaa3713 Рік тому

      @@adam6543
      Hahaha

  • @_HamzaShaf
    @_HamzaShaf Рік тому

    Lies upon lies

  • @bilalsiddiqui2177
    @bilalsiddiqui2177 5 років тому +10

    All real Sufi orders follow Imam Ashari or Imam Maturidi in Creed and Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Imam Shafii or Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal in fiqh( jurisprudence). Anyone out of this is not part of Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah, such as the Salafi heretics or Rafdhi Shia

    • @hmmm3210
      @hmmm3210 3 роки тому +3

      Barelvi and Quboori heretics calling others heretics lol

    • @atharnabil8684
      @atharnabil8684 2 роки тому +1

      Ah, it looks like bilal bro has the permission to kick people from Ahlus sunnati wal jama'ah

  • @Britishfever456
    @Britishfever456 6 років тому +8

    The biggest problem with the Sufi thinking is what is completely alien to Ahlus-Sunnah in the understanding of who Allah is. As with the Ashari's and Maturidi's, they put the intellect first as a means to understand the religion. The people of Sunnah put the Kitaab and Authentic Hadeeth to formulate the understanding of who Allah is. In this regard you could argue that the Sufi, has major errors because his principal aqeedah and basic understanding of Tawheed is non-existent. Therefore, claims of ittibah are meaningless.

    • @AbdallahEsa
      @AbdallahEsa 6 років тому +1

      Britishfever456 You told a lie on Ahlus Sunnah (Ash'aris/Maturidis).They don't take the intellect over the nusoos Kitab and Sunnah.

    • @Britishfever456
      @Britishfever456 6 років тому

      Abdallah E Religion isn't about claims my brother. It's about practise.

    • @AbdallahEsa
      @AbdallahEsa 6 років тому

      You're right Deen isn't about claims that's why you have to know what you're talking about before you say it.You should ask about and study from scholars who know the 'aqida Ahlus Sunnah (Ash'aris/Maturidis) instead of its opponents then you will realize that the so called Salafis just parrot what their teachers say regarding the Ash'aris and Maturidis without knowledge.

    • @serkandogan9506
      @serkandogan9506 6 років тому

      Sufi people says there is only way is following Quran and sunneh
      I have been witness of it myself
      So whatever you said is wrong about them. As I know sufi people are Sunni because they teach Sunni akidah and itikad such as eşari and maturidi. Plus they say we have to follow and understand Quran and sunneh as ehli sunnet vel cemaat

  • @zeeshazkhan3720
    @zeeshazkhan3720 6 років тому +25

    At 6.33 he just lied .No musim group or any sufi tariqa have this aqeeda that a wali is greater than ambiya .
    Its just lack of knowledge bro, you need tarbiya.

    • @ammirza8323
      @ammirza8323 6 років тому +3

      Zeeshaz Khan but most of it was truth. And Aaqa SAW didn't practice many such things that are practiced in Tasawuf

    • @xingyimaster1987
      @xingyimaster1987 5 років тому +13

      There are sufis who have this belief

    • @mohamedelsiddig7027
      @mohamedelsiddig7027 5 років тому +14

      No he didn't lied about this matter cuz here in Sudan we have some sufis saying that in their poems and it's written in their books.

    • @Junuu
      @Junuu 5 років тому +2

      Zeeshaz Khan your laymen do

    • @AHK4680
      @AHK4680 5 років тому +1

      Zeeshaz Khan That’s a big accusation bro, what have you studied? Where’s your evidence?

  • @serkandogan9506
    @serkandogan9506 6 років тому +18

    he doesn't know what he is talking about
    As I met many sufi they are the real muslims and they all say everything has to be from Quran and sunneh

    • @PaulMauser
      @PaulMauser 6 років тому +8

      Serkan Dogan That doesn’t many anything. Much of what they follow comes completely from innovation. And they abandon much of the Quran and sunnah,

    • @serkandogan9506
      @serkandogan9506 6 років тому +12

      I have been with Sufi people 7 years and whatever they taught me is all shown from Quran and sunneh and I read them myself
      So go and spend time with them and shame of yourself :-)
      Sufi people are Sunni too they follow Sunni tribe

    • @PaulMauser
      @PaulMauser 6 років тому +7

      Serkan Dogan Study the sunna and you will find they are innovators. They make their own interpretation of the Quran. They are not Sunni. Sunni isn’t a tribe. I know this because I used to be Sufi before studying the Sunna.

    • @PaulMauser
      @PaulMauser 6 років тому +3

      Serkan Dogan I think think certain people you label as Sufi might not be full on misguided Sufi. In most of the the world Sufism has pagan like practices and sometimes even combines pagan rituals into Islam. This is why Jihad was declared in 19th century Nigeria and successfully created the sokoto caliphate it was because the Islamic leaders had many pagan customs they were bringing into the local Islam..

    • @serkandogan9506
      @serkandogan9506 6 років тому +3

      Well in almost any Islamic way or known as Islamic, has some falls community in them that involved with wrong itikad. The community I have been and know they all say you can't be really sufi without knowing şeria law and practise as you know. I don't know what you mean by saying they are innovators :-)
      Elaborate it please what they innovated?

  • @karimshah8535
    @karimshah8535 6 років тому +2

    Sufi hadra is good exercise makes people slim n fit.

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  • @enesguzel2313
    @enesguzel2313 6 років тому +7

    Doesnt really know what hes talking about. This young man should stick to what he has studied and not feel obliged to answer questions on areas he hasnt studied properly. Young man all of a sudden big shiekh may Allah guide him and protect him amin

    • @realdeal332
      @realdeal332 5 років тому +8

      This "young man" has a bachelors and masters degree from the U of medina and currently studying to get his PHD in America, so I think he has an idea about what hes talking about.

    • @Ikleel827
      @Ikleel827 4 роки тому

      ENES Guzel He is sticking to what he has studied.

    • @enesguzel2313
      @enesguzel2313 4 роки тому +1

      Don't worry I've studied in madinah university aswell having a degree doesn't necessarily indicate to the level of knowledge you have this is a western mentality and only came into the muslim world in recent 80years ijazah is the correct terminology and ijazah is 100% credit. Now you also have to look which area he studied if he studied hadith he should stick to that not end up in other areas where he could easily end up in errors. A person of hadith maybe a pharmacist by has not a doctor he can't tell you how to apply a faqih can a person who for example has studied Shariah for 10 20 years. It's not a certificate you pick up in 8 years and then start talking and giving verdicts. The Ulama of the past studied for 20 40 years there whole life and will stick there speech to what they have studied. Now in regards to Sufis Tasawwuf you will be shocked to know that majority of the scholars where people of Tasawwuf so my point is there are alot of different groups tariqa of sufis alot of them nowadays are misguided but originally weren't and also till today there are proper sufis who are guided. It's a very vast topic and needs to be very well studies and pout forwa3d to not commit wrongdoings to anyone and therefore fall into sin.
      Allahu alem

    • @zedmelor8842
      @zedmelor8842 3 роки тому

      @@enesguzel2313 Sheesh, he certainly has Islamic studies background and he is qualified to teach already. You don't need to wait until another 20 40 years before you can pass on your knowledge to the community. I bet you failed your study in that university coz you don't sound knowledgeable at all.

    • @enesguzel2313
      @enesguzel2313 3 роки тому +1

      Allah Alem may Allah aid us all and unite us Ameen

  • @pointdot094
    @pointdot094 2 роки тому

    Bruh first thing you should’ve clarified is that Ash’aris and Sufis are Ahlussunnah wal Jama’.
    There are so many mistakes I’m not even going to waste my time with this guy. From the concept of Bai’ah etc…he is so wrong.
    If a Sufi believed a non-Prophet is better than a Prophet then he is not a Sufi.
    A Sufi that dances etc is not a Sufi…
    A Sufi is someone that is strict on Sharia’.
    I’m sick of this strawmaning. It’s like talking about Khawarij and labeling them as Salafees because they call themselves Salafees.
    Mufti Muneer please learn more you have a long way to go.

  • @selinaworld3364
    @selinaworld3364 4 роки тому +1

    You know less young boy..study more.

    • @MuslimPrince_
      @MuslimPrince_ 4 роки тому

      I’ve seen ur name b4

    • @user-we6kz8nj6s
      @user-we6kz8nj6s 3 роки тому +2

      Bet he knows more then your whole family.

    • @zedmelor8842
      @zedmelor8842 3 роки тому +1

      I am not surprised if your knowledge is less than 0.0001 % than what he knows. He is an Islamic scholar, graduated from the University of Madinah. And you?

  • @saquibrangrez1809
    @saquibrangrez1809 6 років тому +5

    He's out of his mind what he is taking about and he is from salafi'ahlee hadees'wahabi

    • @jaggafeen
      @jaggafeen 6 років тому +7

      lanat on all those who associate partners with Allah lord of the supreme throne

    • @norar6464
      @norar6464 5 років тому

      Ndl soild read verses 74,75 qassas. Be prepared to give evidence for your Sufi practice YOU HAVE NONE

    • @aboutthat1440
      @aboutthat1440 5 років тому +1

      Sawuib, did you even listen to his comments. It seems you only want to hear that they are all kufaar. Regardless of their being differences among them. Some that DO take some of them out of Islam. And some that may be wrong and doesn't take them out. The discussion is much more nuanced in some cases. Others are blatantly kufr. That was his point. His last statements answered your rhetorical comment.

  • @nissanmicra9277
    @nissanmicra9277 6 років тому +3

    This man has no knowledge of Sufism. He does not represent the ahlus sunnah wal jammaa. He’s just an average joe that studied a few years of the Islamic sciences without any application or true spiritual guidance. I disagree with every point this man has mentioned.

    • @carlosvela488
      @carlosvela488 5 років тому +8

      Well stop watching his video

    • @sumnerslandscaping5565
      @sumnerslandscaping5565 5 років тому +3

      Please elaborate on who or what is the ahlus sunnah wal jamma? Jazakallah khayran

    • @khalidhamza135
      @khalidhamza135 5 років тому +2

      @@ThriveWithLouise put on a hijab & watch your tongue..

    • @khalidhamza135
      @khalidhamza135 5 років тому +2

      @@ThriveWithLouise i instructed you to remember your place. No harm came from my mouth ir actions. Your just seeking attention in the wrong places. Peace be upon YOU

    • @norar6464
      @norar6464 5 років тому +1

      Nissan Micra read verses 74,75 alqassas and prepare an authentic evidence of your Sufi practice instead of wasting your time and the others belittling the sheiks