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Sheik.. you are the most balance preacher out there, clear cut, humble and straight to the point
Mad respect for this young shaykh.
How do i tag shamsi and spubs?
Yes, Allah SWT did not send a madhab or fiqh school. BUT it was the Sahaba themselves that created 'madhabs' or schools of fiqh according to their understandings.
1) after the battle of ahzab/khandaq, the Prophet ﷺ told the sahaba (raa) to march to Quraiza and to read asr salah there. But during their travel, maghrib time was getting close so some sahaba were of the OPINION/FIQH/MADHAB to read asr there rather than make it late.
The other sahabas FIQH/MADHAB/UNDERSTANDING was to do as the Prophet ﷺ said even if asr gets delayed.
One saying/text, yet two understandings of it. Two fiqhs. And the Prophet ﷺ said that both groups were correct - i.e both fiqhi opinions /madhabs were correct.
2) two sahabis were traveling and there was no water for wudhu so they did tayammum & prayed salah. Later they came across some water and there was still plenty of time remaining for the next salah. So 1 sahabi said he will do wudhu with water then repeat his salah while the other sahabis opinion/fiqh/madhab was that he had completed that action correctly so there is no need to repeat it.
[ had there been more sahaba, then they may have had even more views/opinions/fiqhi understandings /madhabs]
Later on, when they had informed the Prophet ﷺ he told them that the one who did not repeat the salah had the correct opinion/ fiqh while the other one got extra reward for more good actions!
Therefore, madhabs / differences of opinion did exist during sahabas time.
Sahaba (raa) did taqlid of Prophet (saw).
And some Sahaba did taqlid of other Sahaba who knew more sunnah.
Tabieen (AbuHanifah) did taqlid of Sahaba.
Taba-tabieen (Malik, Shafi'i, Ahmed) did taqlid of tabieen.
All 4 madhabs were completed in the time of taba-tabieen. [ the Sunnah was spread via these 4 schools of Fiqh]
According to the well known hadith, these are the best generations. "Khayrul qurooni qarni - thummal ladhina yaluna hum - thummal ladhina yaluna hum."
Therefore, this deen/religion must be taken from the above mentioned best generations.
The muhadditheen came AFTER the Sunnah had already been established by the 4 fiqhs /madhabs.
The hadith books came AFTER the BEST GENERATIONS had established the 4 schools of ahl as Sunnah.
Anybody who takes his deen/religion from hadith books [such as Bukhari/Muslim etc] then he is taking his religion from a generation AFTER the best ones!
One can learn knowledge from hadith books but should NOT take amal (actions) from them.
Hadiths are NOT the same as Sunnah.
But the Madhabs were taking from the same pool of hadeeth that the Muhadeethin were grading. You do realise the Muhadith were not inventing or innovating hadeeth, there were merely grading what was there into who had the most authetic chain of narration. There were many hadeeth which were fabricated and went against Quran and more authentic narrations, so there had to be a filtering process. Also Malik was also a Muhadith and Abu Hadeefa and Ahmad were fughaha.
Also the muhadeeth are studying and grading the sayings of the Prophet and Sahaba, so surely by look at their folio of narrations we would be technically taking knowledge from the first 3 generations as well.
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 - you do realise that Imams Abu Hanifa & Malik relied upon what they SAW with their own eyes rather than hear something via a long chain of narrators!
e.g: When Imam Abu Hanifa heard a Companion or a Tabi' relate any hadith, there would only be 1 or 2 ppl in the sanad /isnad/chain BUT that same hadith would have 6-9 narrators by the time Imam Bukhari heard it & if any 1 of these ppl in the chain were unknown then that same SAHIH hadith will now be labelled WEAK!
But the main thing is that the earlier Imams SAW THE SUNNAH AS PRACTICED by the Sahaba and their Students
And we follow that same Sunnah today.
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 - the hadith books were not to be used to REPLACE OR CHANGE the Sunnah.
Hadith are raw historical data /information only to be used by Specialists (Mujtahids /Faqihs) and NOT for the general public to use as Sunnah books to practice whatever they read!!
Such ppl go astray & this is what has happened to the Salafi Sect.
That’s right....I don’t do Taqlid of Albani, Uthaymeen, Fawzan nor your local salafee Imam. The view that some opinions are weak is merely a view of some salafee scholars not revelation from Allah.
is sticking to a mathhab would that make it a sect
You can never ever compare salfi scholars to any 1 of the 4 fiqhs/madhabs.
Yes, AbuHanifah is dead & the sahaba (raa) he followed are dead and the one they followed (salallaahu alayhi wasallam).... BUT the Fiqh is alive and they KNEW BEST because they are thr closest to THE SOURCE.
And this was several generations BEFORE Bukhari or Muslim etc.
You are comparing hors and a Different donkey
Which masjid is this ?
He is the fool for calling people who follow a madhabh , misguideding people who are following people of sunnah
Backbiting another brother is haram. We as muslims should watch what we say.
@@ia1399 he is making public statement, I am making statement back in public, saving people from his misguidance.
@@mohammedansar109 Even if that is right for arguments sake it can still be done without backbiting another Muslim. I hope you can understand what I'm saying akhi.
@@ia1399 no, he has made public statement, you should refute in public. Otherwise how would people know, it's leading people a way from madhab, resulted in most of the pilot in September 11 from Saudi, ISIS and Al Qaida, and people following there desire in fique
@@mohammedansar109 Akhi the madhab is not the religion. Allah did not reveal to the prophet Muhammad any of the madhabs. Only the Qur'an and the Sunnah. If he is leading people away from the Madhab and to the Qur'an and Sunnah what is wrong with that.
He's a Wahabbi... The Salaf was the first 300 year of Muslims from the Prophet (SAW) and his Sahaba. You are disrespecting Scholars who where actually of the time of the Salaf, and taught from the students of the Sahaba. NONE of your Wahabbi/Salafi Scholars where among the real Salaf. Therefore with all the Knowledge you gained, turns out your the Layman with a disrespectful tongue. May Allah guide you, and humble you.
300 years? No it's the first 3 generations so that's 200 years at a push.
C'mon you can't say throw that garbage out the window... That's an extreme statement in itself. Lack of balance. Fair enough you don't want to follow madhab... But big thing to say it's a garbage. Like all scholars who followed some usool from this fiqhi madhabs
There is a lot of garbage in the books of Madhabs you would be shocked to read their fatwa books that are taught in their madaris .
@@peopleofhadith5237- such is the nonsense that these Salafi Sectarians spout!
Do you follow a mathhabs!? And do you agree that all the 4 Mathhabs are rightly guided!? Do you believe that the 4 Imams are of the Tab- Tabieen!? Do you believe that the 4 Mathhabs are the accepted schools of thought by the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah!? And do you believe that practice any mathhab is the rightly guided way!? The greatest scholars practice taqleed to these Imams, are they not rightly guided? Is it right to say and have the attitude that all 4 Mathhabs are equal and is the proper way to practice the deen!? You seemed to have a slight negative and aggressive approach to the 4 Mathhabs!!!!???
@Mohammed Mohammed Before the 4 great Imams the people were following the Sahaaba themselves and still narrating Hadith from the companions of the Prophet (pbuh) himself. These were the Tabieen and the Tab-Tabieen. The 4 Imams were apart of the salaf-e-saliheen (3 Noble generations) and they were the Tab-Tabieen. Ok so, Imam Abu Hanifa was born 80 Hijri, it was said that he was prayer over by Ali Ibn abi talib, and he (Abu Hanifa) also narrated 4,000 Hadith from the last of the Sahaaba and these imams (Hanifa, Maliki, Hanbali, Shafi) came before Imam Bukhari and Muslim etc and the narrators of our sihah sitta ( 6 canonical books of authentic Hadiths). So they mathhabs spread across the entire Muslim world rapidly. Remember they were the first to codify the Quran, Sunnah, and the Shariah Law into a particular school of thought, a practice taught and sanctioned by the Sahaaba and their students!! We, the followers of mathhabs are the closest to the Salaf-e-saliheen than anybody claiming to follow the salaf and it's not just because they (4 Imams) are from and apart of the salaf!! No one can refute or uproot their practice and ruling not even Al Albani! Think, how can you effectively run a Islamic State without fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence)!? Etc. The Mathhabs we believe each mathhab in it's own right is the complete and perfect Islam as expounded in the Quran and Sunnah. So we are not fanatics saying only our way is right etc we practice the deen differently but agree on a vast majority of issues like aqeedah and Hadith etc. They practiced the religion and learned from the most pious people of all time, they were students of the Sahaaba and their students!! How can someone come 1300 years later and tell us how to practice our religion and claim that he is better than the Salaf themselves yet claim to follow them at the same time!? Allah spoke about the salaf-e- saliheen in the Quran and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) spoke of them in Hadith! Read 4:59, ( 9:100 these ayats refer to the 3 illustrious groups of the Sunnah, the best of generations of all time and Allah expressed his pleasure with them!! ) Our Prophet (pbuh) said, " The best of age is my age, then the next age and then the following." These are the ages of the Salaf accepted and agreed upon by the entire ummah even the modernist. So when the modernist quote people who came 6 centuries Hijri and 10 centuries Hijri etc are not more credible than quoting and following the salaf themselves!!! We were commanded to follow those in authority 4:59 (this refers to the Imams appointed by the Prophet (pbuh), Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali, and the people in authority were the Ulama-e-Haqq of that time! 31:15 ( follow the path of those who turn to me) etc. So they didn't particularly follow these schools of thought but they were still producing the framework for our religion, this also help us from our religion dividing into sects and being watered down by bida etc Hope that answers your question ahki and Allah knows best.
@@alihanifa8090 my akhi, salam alekoum wa rahmatu ALLAAH wa barakatu, hé is not agressief to the four madhab but to the one doing taqlid (blind following) of the madahib. And ALLAAH knows best
@@iliasilias144 It was never about following an ulama blindly. The 4 madhhabs are rulings already laid down from the sunnah of Rasullullah SAW for us to learn and practice. These are the Alhu sunnah wal jamaah.