@@ZeldaCDI99 In the part where he tells the player about how his personality and false memories came from a real person who wasn't a synth like him, his exposed wires spark just a little too precisely. Mine don't do that.
Not the current, obvious Nick Valentine. The original 'human' Nick Valentine from before the bombs fell. Why would the institute install the perfect brain scan of a random pre-war cop? And how would a brain scan for a pre war medical procedure perfectly integrate into a supposedly brand new post war tech? OG Nick was also a synth.
There’s a theory that Nate could be the Hero of Anchorage. Which would explain his visit to the Veterans Hall(possibly receiving the Medal of Honor). Love that fan theory. Actually I think it’s true. It would explain why he’s so skilled on the battlefield. Plus, his experience fighting the stealth dragoon soldiers, would give him an edge against the Coursers.
The Dogmeat theory is extremely likely, if for no other reason than the fact that there is only one known dog breeder in the commonwealth. Dogmeat is in great health, has no scars, is the only know dog of his breed, and the dog breeder does not immediately recognize him when you meet him out in the wastes. You know that clingy s.o.b. remembers every dog he's ever had sired.
@@lostbutfreesoulI always feel like Somebody's watching me And I have no privacy I always feel like somebody's watching me, Tell me, is it just a dream?
Rip the ghoul serum lore. Rip to the nuka dlc, The show rewrites continuity and the fallout 4 "free content" that we recently got fixed the continuity from the show and the game. Lazy, and disrespectful to the current lore. All those ghouls that we talked to that knew there was no cure, no longer hold there weight anymore.
"That's only a local thing" I'll bet that's gonna be the excuse for it, so those moments still hold weight. They'll just say "oh, well the cure isn't known on that side of USA" or "it's only in New California territory" something to that effect, so they don't have to rewrite anymore than they already decided to. Or need to, for that matter
Much like Deacon’s little shack by 111, there’s a chair next to a tire that has an ashtray with a cigar in it overlooking the Red Rocket and the radio has the classic station on it. My head canon has Kellogg watching you meet Dogmeat 2:17
Synth dog eat always made sense to me. You mean to tell me out of nowhere, hundreds of years after nuclear Armageddon, a rad free, pure bred German Shephard just suddenly pops up?
Joel Burgess, one of the devs for FO4, has said Dogmeat is "trapped out of time" and "does not belong in 2287” so I always assumed he had been frozen or something like the sole survivor. But idk
Would have been handy if 111 had some terminal entry with a throwaway reference to animal subjects. That'd explain why he looks like Pre-War Dog. And no doubt a Vault-Tec animal being so intelligent and trained wouldn't he the weirdest thing.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Tbf, in the tv show *(spoilers)* ...cryo sleep seem to be a completely safe procedure/tool/whatever youd call it, lol, which further strengthens this theory that animals, especially *Fo4 dogmeat,* couldve been prewar test subjects etc.
@@The_Lucent_Archangelno dogs were in vault 111. I recently played through the beginning again and in a terminal in vault 111 they do have entries of the residents supposed to be entered into cryo chambers. One entry mentions a family with a dog and it says something like Spike (Do Not Allow)
One funny thing about the Dogmeat theory: some people accidentally let slip that they’ve never heard of a dog whistle before, because when Nick uses one they assume it’s some kind of special Synth radio device
@@helmutkok7833 He's supposed to imitate a human in all aspects. Obviously, the design has a number of flaws in terms of passability, but mechanically, they nailed it. Installing a couple of airbags as lungs would be a lot easier than functioning fingers
The range of most, if not all, dog whistles barely hits a mile. It's certainly less of a stretch to say dog meat is a synth than it is that the same dog perched up at red rocket near sanctuary was wandering the mutant infested streets of downtown Boston And that's ignoring the fact that Nick, you know, summons him in a house in the middle of a bustling town
Another note regarding Lanius not being a real, single person: his last legate failed him and he had to make a statement of him. I don't know that Caesar would want to actually share power again with a new legate, but would definitely still want a potential scapegoat if their Mojave campaign continues to undersucceed.
I believe a former Bethesda employee has come out and said that Fallout 3 was supposed to take place 50 years after the bombs fell. But they changed it to 200 years. That’s why there isn’t much work to get DC back on its feet.
There's a few things that don't track there. If aspects like Harold and such were always planned, 50 years would have put him still being out West and getting mutated at Mariposa. If he just up and went East then he wouldn't be there to meet the Vault Dweller and Chosen One in Fallouts 1 and 2. I think it just makes more sense to ascribe the lack of something akin to the NCR out East to other factors not explained yet. In light of 76, maybe something yet to occur in that game will help explain why the Capital Wasteland is behind by the time 3 takes place. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility, especially considering the entry on Vault 76 that you can find in 3 is redacted.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel”if aspects like Harold and such were always planned…” That’s a big if. Let’s be honest, Harold is pretty much an Easter Egg in 3.
In my own personal opinion, 3 is intended to take place no more than thirty years after the Great War, with “Dad” being a student/graduate of a prewar university… Maybe even the CIT…
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Maybe so. But what if Harold started as an Easter Egg, and then the developers decided to go all in with him. It would mess with their original timeline, so the devs pushed it back 150 more years to make it make sense. A few quick adaptations and changing of a few words of dialect, and it’s covered. DC would still be in ruins, since there isn’t any heavy machinery to move the rubble.
Fallout 3 being originally set earlier in the timeline would have been very interesting. We get that in Fallout 76, but having a more desolate wasteland with barely any civilization or resources would have been great to really sell the post apocalypse feel of the series.
one of the worst aspects of Fallout is the timeframes presented. Even with a suspension of disbelief and post apocalypse population decline, there shouldn't be a single can of Scram left and the countryside would be exploding with plant life. That level of desolation yet availability of materials and wooden structures still standing in comparatively good state lends itself to 10-20 years, not 200 years. The big hurdle for Bethesda that they copped out of by setting the timeline so far ahead, is having to spend more time writing the thoughts and behaviors of people that can still remember where everything is, what every appliance does, the phone numbers of their neighbors, still having all of their ingrained social behaviors and government propaganda etc etc. Fallout is a post-post apocalypse story with a world that somehow cant manage to get to the post-part.
@@idrathernot_2 Yeah, Bethesda seemed to have completely missed that the country is supposed to have mostly recovered by the time the games take place. The Interplay games usually took place at a time when people had managed to solve their problems of basic subsistence, created organized societies, and were just starting to poke around in the ruins of the old world to find out what was there. If you look at every other major tragedy in human history, that's what happens. The tragedy happens, the survivors solve their immediate problems, and then the curiosity takes over and they start asking questions about what happened before. Medieval scholars, for example, were obsessed with the Roman empire, and finding out if there was anything they could learn from the Romans. Fallout was about the last step in that process. Then Bethesda came along and completely forgot about that
@@idrathernot_2 My retcon theory (i do think the F3 map was made for 10 to 50 year setting) is that DC keeps getting nuked every now and then like how we can launch an ICBM what if per-war weapons in other parts of the world are being set off at random a computer resets; a scaver throws a switch; a repair bot powers on; and the old world reminds us it still is not fully dead.
@@filmandfirearms Sometimes recover. The Mayans for example didn't. There's also a little known theory that the areas that would become North and South America there were giant kingdoms like one would find in medieval Europe and Asia. However something bad happened like a pandemic or regional war or whatever that caused the whole thing to collapse. The survivors eventually become what are known as the Native Americans/Indians and their individual tribes. The closest European explorers got to finding anything remotely looking like a traditional empire or country were the Aztecs and Incas.
@@chadharger9323 If they don't recover, it's because they were replaced by another group. The Bethesda Fallout world is one where humanity doesn't even try to build back
The Dogmeat theory has one other clue that cements it as true in my head. You find him at the Red Rocket Gas Station just outside Sanctuary. Inside that very station, is the only radio in the entire commonwealth, naturally tuned to the classical radio station. The very same station that the Institute uses for the molecular relay and sending coded messages to their agents in the field.
About Liberty Prime. Keep in mind the same people that ignored LP for almost 200 years are the same people that completely ignored Metro Men. How can something that has appeared in just about every Fallout game in way or another be completely ignored by both prewar civilization(there are ZERO references to them in any magazine or computer) and by post war people who are very curious about the past(Piper and especially Brotherhood of Steel).
I’m usually not a fan theory backer but, the Legate Lanius one is something I’ve always wanted to be true. The idea that Lanius’ reputation is fueled by multiple tall tales works well for a group like the Legion.
One origin story has Lanius' face being disfigured. In game if you kill him and take his helmet his face doesn't even have a single scar but does have a bitchin handle bar moustache.
Another piece of evidence for the FO3 theory is that Moira Brown asks you to help with her survival guide. Why is someone just now deciding to make a survival book? Why on Earth would she think a place like the super duper mart would still have supplies after 200 yrs of scavenging? At least in FO4 they can blame the lack of regional progress on deliberate sabotaging by the institute. Imo, the FO3 timeline theory is just a fact
Moira is a bit out of it in a lot of ways, but her assumption that some areas may be unlooted due to nearby danger is kinda a core element of the games lol. I'm sure other people have pitched making survival guides, but few would be in the position to write it, pay someone to do the exploration for it, and then be able to actually produce copies (even an old timey printing press could be a hard bit of tech to put together and maintain, and having someone copying it by hand isn't exactly ideal). Most of the timeline stuff for 3 ends up making sense. I'm pretty sure the Pentagon had automated defences before the BOS arrived, and I always imagined that Lamplight gets food and meds donated by those who grew up there or who left their kids there. The Super Mutants made rebuilding hard, and not only did the Capitol not have the key heroes earlier in the timeline that California did (VD and Chosen One), but the only GECK in the region was in the very Vault that was the source of the overrunning super mutants.
@byron2FZ lamplight is weirdly enough the one settlement that has everything. Like they even have a farm in the back. Sure it's small, but yeah weirdly the one town that is only kids is the one town that has most of the basic stuff that is needed for a town. Now a different question is where does all the kids come from, like do the ones that leave, just return Any kids they create?
@@theotheyoutubewatcherista Doesn't matter what they call themselves or what cliques they create. At the end of the day they are free XP that all die the same way.
The lead theory is probable, but I think it’s much simpler than that… I have cancer and nerve damage and I know for a fact pain and sickness makes you cranky. Basically everyone in the wasteland has cancer and various illnesses and infections at all times, they’re uneducated, malnourished, and probably high on whatever they can get to dull the pain and try to feel better. You’d expect those kinds of people to be violent, unpredictable, selfish and stupid. Lead probably plays a very small role in how those bandits and raiders act, it’s just miserable people having a horrible life and taking it out on anyone and everyone they see.
In the pre-war opening you can find a dog dish on the floor. When activating it the MC says something about their dog having gone missing. What's the first thing you find outside of Sanctuary? A dog. What was the point of adding the pre-war dog dish and story about a missing dog?
maybe to subtly say how the main character is used to a dog and why dogmeat would come up to him/her instead of any other person, in FO 3 you found dogmeat after the his master is killed which makes it reasonable why he will follow him, but in FO 4 he is just there after who know how long
@akumu9188 Or he could be this dog. Notice that ghoulified gorillas in Nuka-World don't look much different, except for the scars from fighting gatorclaws. So maybe some animals are enough rad-resilient to change internally, but not externally?
When some one can say that horrific violent tendancies due to prolonged lead exposure is mundane, and not be incorrect, you know the world has gone to hell
You forgot with Dogmeat, another factor is how he looks. No other canine looks good and healthy yet Dogmeat looks like he was cryofroze too in comparrison to all orher dogs. NV had cyberdogs. The institute was known for entering other regions so there's little doubt they wouldn't have found them. Plus the gorillas in the institute kind of play into messing with nature.
I mean, cats and birds (minus seagulls) seem to be pretty healthy. And they appear in places like Appalachia and New Vegas (the birds), so you can't just say "those creatures were synths too".
I think both Dogmeat and the Sole Survivor are synths. I also don't think Father is actually Shaun, he's just some guy. Mainly because this would make the game more interesting, not because it's actually likely.
My theory is that Dogmeat has psyker abilities. Perhaps a type of precog ability like Mama Murphy. Someone does hint that Dogmeat appear at the right time, right place when needed.
Red rocket that radio in the garage always stuck out to me because we learn in the story that the institute relay through the classical radio station and what’s playing on the radio
The only way I ever explained little lamp light. Was that the 16 year olds would be required to have at least one baby before leaving but even then unless it was a really large field trip I'm pretty sure they would have that many people at the end
After the fallout show I feel like dogmeat might one of those dogs that where trained and experimented on to be a perfect dog that knows all commands and is a good companion
The idea that Mark is the Mysterious Stranger is kind of impossible, considering the fact that the Mysterious Stranger appears in Fallout 76, well before he should have been alive.
Bethesda games Timelines have always bugged me, it's like their world can't move forward, the TV show makes it worse by pulling the West Coast back into these scrappy towns instead of the High tech citys from Fallout 2
My problem is that the timeline is too thick with too much information after the Great War. There's actually too much information to make self-contained main plots for the games. Also Bethesda not only won't use the rest of the planet(like London), they won't bother with other locations that can be used at the same time other major events are happening. For example the Chosen One is starting the final assault against the Enclave. At the same time another Main Character in Dallas, TX just discovered a plot to completely nuke the planet again with the thought to completely wiping out humanity or whatever.
I think the Season 2 reveal will be that there was another war after Fallout NV. It's an annoying reset I've got to say but they needed something to keep the post apocalyptic aesthetic and it would make sense with the plot of New Vegas where the second battle of Hoover Dam was just a prelude to something bigger.
To be fair to Fallout 3, the issue with the environment could be explained due to the fact the DC area was carpet bombed with nukes. The environment isn’t devastated due to radiation, but all the pollution caused by said radiation. After all, we saw what happened in similar areas like with the Glowing Sea and The Pit
Fingers crossed that after all these years, these theory’s are something new. And while writing this, I hear “dog meat is a synth”, instant like lol As soon as you leave the vault, you’re watched by Deacon. Dog meat is the perfect inversion of a spy, especially with crows being synths
On the fallout 3 theory, your dad being from outside the vault, being able to get you in, because he is a doctor (something you would maybe think the vault would want to train themselves and not some wastelander? An unexploded nuke that a rich person wants blown up (waits for you to show up) also wouldnt the tower be similar to lamp light? Like a retirement home for the rich, but in an apocolypse? Also couldnt that mean you could have been born before the war as well? Like you were born the day of or right after. Maybe your dad and mom had a spot but didnt make it cause of your birth? And thats why they needed the doctor (he was the doctor) which im sure the vault lore says overseer is whatever number (not the OG) but how long would someone keep that lie up, especially if you talked to someone who was outside?
I 100% believe the Fallout 3 timeline theory. It makes so much sense. I think 76 was them going back and giving that idea another shot after it didn't pan out in 3.
With the Dogmeat theory about watching powerful players could he been trained by Decon? I would assume Decon keeps his connections to Dogmeat a secret thats why the Railroad doesn't say anything about the dog
I like to think Lanius was real, but was an overhyped figure, who's deeds were greatly exaggerated in order to create the intimidating character you mentioned; one who could inspire the troops while making the enemy tremble in fear. Think Vasily Zaitsev and the battle of Stalingrad, or any Klingon telling the tale of his/her glorious battles. We know how his mask is supposed to cover a horribly disfigured face, but if you can get his mask off (depending on either glitches or console commands), his face is perfectly normal. (Or maybe the reason it's so difficult to remove the mask from his carcass is because the developer didn't bother to create a disfigured face, but I like to ignore that tiny detail)
Mine is that the Railroad does the memory wipes to protect themselves and no other reason. While they think this is helping the synth too it is erasing who they are. Many would think this is the same as death. I think there was a movie that had criminals memory wiped instead of executed for high crimes. Big also the Dogmeat one... the Amazon series already shows that dogmeat was part of an Enclave program and is is only what 5-10 years after Fallout 4. The program might have been going on for much longer and a few might have escaped over the years. They might have been sending them out with agents for a long time as they protected the... formula.
Not to mention with the lead poisoning causing aggression and lowered iq, that could then be reflected in their children, cause children tend to mirror the behaviour of their parents
What if Francine didn't really die, but became Miss Fortune, with Mark as the Mysterious Stranger? I still lean towards the Stranger being either a lightly ghoulified version of the human Nick Valentine, or, possibly, Gandalf.
The BoS and Enclave conflict in Fallout 3 would actually make *more* sense if it was a decade or less after the Great War, because that would imply that the newly formed Brotherhood would've gone on a rampage after the Enclave, which is the surviving remnants of the rat-king of elites that makes up the US shadow government. It would've been a much better game, and it would've prevented a few huge plot holes in Fallout 4 - namely, what the hell happened to the Brotherhood of Steel in only ten years?
One other hole I can see with Fallout 3 falling in the wrong place of the timeline is that we meet MacCready again in Fallout 4 as an adult. He's even a companion.
As much as I like the "Legate myth" theory, Fallout is not stranger to superhuman characters and scaryingly nuts characters. And the Fallout 3 timeline makes absolute sense to me.
The mysterious stranger theory is unfortunately entirely debunked by the fact that the mysterious stranger is in fallout: 76, unless he also somehow gained time travel powers as well
The Mark Theory could be true making him the First Succeful Super Human using the FEV, its like he became Cpt. America by surviving the Super Serum and the Others became the Master= the Leader and Harold a weak Hulk=failed Super Mutant.
lead idea i get but more like joker says when the chips are down these civilized people theyll eat each other. the apocalypse lets people show their true character
I just think Dogmeat is meant to be your first, main or only companion so like other games, he's tough enough to stay with you, smart enough to actually help and dedicated to you and keeping you going and helping to guide your way (Lydia on 4 legs). I can do an entire playthrough with only Buddy (Dogmeat) :).
Ohh, yeah id definitely buy any "substance poisoning" etc as a valid explanation for, well, most things tbh, lol. And definitely combined with radiation poisoning. Mysterious Mark is also an awesome theory tbh! However, is the Lanius really that much different from the player character and their accomplishments? He sounds like some sort of nemesis tbh. (edit: yeah, obv he *is* the nemesis, but only speaking of the feats here.)
The FO3 theory is even more bolstered accidentally by FO76, which has East Coast BOS and Enclave already just a few decades after the big kaboom (which of course has been criticized for putting yet more BOS content in every FO when they dont necessarily need to be there logically).
The Legate Lanius one makes no sense in my opinion when fallout is full of extraordinarily people like Frank Horrigan,Harrold the courier,Kellog and the ghoul and brain dude from point lookout or Oswald from nuka world with his magic teleporting. Why can Cesare and Joshua's stories of Lanius not be true? If Cesare found Lanius after throwing Joshua off the grand canyon it explains why Joshua has never heard of him. Also we fight him at the end of the 2nd battle for hoover dame and he's as brutal and tough as the legends make him out to be. What is that just a random legion centurion acting out a character? If so how is he able to put up such a fight against at that point a walking apocalypse known as courier 6?
All the theories you named off for dog meat are literally expland in the game. Nick valentine knows dogmeat because it is stated by nick and mama murphy that dogmeat likes to help people in need. Nick also says that only dogs can hear his high frequency whistle in the commonwealth. He Didn't say only dogmeat he said dogs plural as in mord than one
My personal one I developed after Dragon Ball Z. The Master isn't dead, just regaining biomass and technological mass. This is thanks to Cell, from Dragon Ball Z. Cell's ability to regenerate off of just one cell. But also hinges on the consumption of others. It's also the same power set and MO as the Master.
The reason why 200 years nobody has cleaned up is the same why nobody todays does it either ... it's to cumbersome to clean up ALL of everything + the state of mind is not anymore the same, it's only about survival and not carring anymore, a depressed world doesn't care about it's surroundings.
Maybe Nick is the mysterious stranger because they both look eerily similar hence also why Nick seems so interested in him, because Nick was a cop and the magnum was something similar to the weapons that sheriffs used to use in the wild West days
Dogmeat: Debunked. However, not fully, Dogmeat is special. What is it? We just dont know, but Dogmeat isnt a Synth. We know this for a couple reasons, Institute is set as an enemy and they dont have any files. This is important because this is where we learn crows, and many NPC are "spies". They dont know of Dogmeat... Lead: Yes, I agree it could have played a part, however, watch movie about what happened to NYC when they lost power for a long period of time. People started turning on each other. Same is happening in Fallout. Survival took over. Marc: Possible and Bethesda could make it so. If I go logically though. Unlikely. Legate Lanis isnt real: Debunked, Fallout: New Vegas debunks it in lore. You even fight him. Fallout 3 was suppose to happen earlier: Possible, because Bethesda decided to use some ideas from Fallout 3 that was never released. However, a more likely idea is Bethesda decided to make Fallout 3 like it should be. A post-nuke world. Remember, the reason they havent managed to rebuild is because the Mutants overrun DC. It wasnt until BOS came that anyone has any hope of survival there. They made survival more possible. Now, to be fair, Fallout 3 is the last true Fallout to the plot of Fallout. New Vegas is to empty, Fallout 4 is to settled and green, and Fallout 76 is all of Fallout 4 plus more. It was a change of how Bethesda saw Fallout. I admit, I never liked New Vegas and Fallout 76 because of all this. I shant give my opinion on Fallout 4, it just isnt a true Fallout plot-wise
See the part with Liberty Prime, i don't think it makes sense it would be easily accessed. A weapon like that i would keep under a lot of secuity lockdowns, not to mention physical lock downs... it could have taken 200 years worth of systems and structure degregation for anyone to even attempt to get at it.
I heard a crazy theory that Nick Valentine is a synth.
Impossible. We would be able to tell
@@ZeldaCDI99 In the part where he tells the player about how his personality and false memories came from a real person who wasn't a synth like him, his exposed wires spark just a little too precisely. Mine don't do that.
Schizophrenia
Not the current, obvious Nick Valentine.
The original 'human' Nick Valentine from before the bombs fell.
Why would the institute install the perfect brain scan of a random pre-war cop?
And how would a brain scan for a pre war medical procedure perfectly integrate into a supposedly brand new post war tech?
OG Nick was also a synth.
Lies! Slander and lies!
There’s a theory that Nate could be the Hero of Anchorage. Which would explain his visit to the Veterans Hall(possibly receiving the Medal of Honor). Love that fan theory. Actually I think it’s true. It would explain why he’s so skilled on the battlefield. Plus, his experience fighting the stealth dragoon soldiers, would give him an edge against the Coursers.
Never heard of that one, whats the theory?
Maybe that's why he was set to have a speech the same day as the great war..
@@NarbsTheGreat Basically that he's who you're playing as in the Operation: Anchorage sim in Fallout 3
In fallout 1 he was in the cutscene he was the guy laughing as the other soldier executed the Canadian
Dunno why Emil didn't try to promote that one rather than saying he shot a canadian who surrendered
The Dogmeat theory is extremely likely, if for no other reason than the fact that there is only one known dog breeder in the commonwealth. Dogmeat is in great health, has no scars, is the only know dog of his breed, and the dog breeder does not immediately recognize him when you meet him out in the wastes. You know that clingy s.o.b. remembers every dog he's ever had sired.
Makes me wonder how nick signals him. Maybe they used Bluetooth 😂
The real question is:
Railroad or Institute?
With the way Deacon was watching you....
@@lostbutfreesoulI always feel like
Somebody's watching me
And I have no privacy
I always feel like somebody's watching me,
Tell me, is it just a dream?
Said it better than I planned to.
@@Cricketmanehe used a dog whistle remember Nick says he's worked with Dogmeat before so probably ran into him a few times in different cases
As we’ve learned with the TV show. Anything’s possible.
I feel like TV shows or movies should have their own canon.
other than shady sands being moved again, the show seems pretty lore friendly
Rip the ghoul serum lore. Rip to the nuka dlc,
The show rewrites continuity and the fallout 4 "free content" that we recently got fixed the continuity from the show and the game. Lazy, and disrespectful to the current lore. All those ghouls that we talked to that knew there was no cure, no longer hold there weight anymore.
"That's only a local thing" I'll bet that's gonna be the excuse for it, so those moments still hold weight. They'll just say "oh, well the cure isn't known on that side of USA" or "it's only in New California territory" something to that effect, so they don't have to rewrite anymore than they already decided to. Or need to, for that matter
Much like Deacon’s little shack by 111, there’s a chair next to a tire that has an ashtray with a cigar in it overlooking the Red Rocket and the radio has the classic station on it. My head canon has Kellogg watching you meet Dogmeat 2:17
Actually makes sense with the way shaun planned all of it
@@stevenbolen and the fact that you get the magazine on Shaun’s balcony
Synth dog eat always made sense to me. You mean to tell me out of nowhere, hundreds of years after nuclear Armageddon, a rad free, pure bred German Shephard just suddenly pops up?
"Fallout 4 has plots holes and inconsistencies due to bad writing."
"X Must be a synth."
Joel Burgess, one of the devs for FO4, has said Dogmeat is "trapped out of time" and "does not belong in 2287” so I always assumed he had been frozen or something like the sole survivor. But idk
Would have been handy if 111 had some terminal entry with a throwaway reference to animal subjects. That'd explain why he looks like Pre-War Dog. And no doubt a Vault-Tec animal being so intelligent and trained wouldn't he the weirdest thing.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Tbf, in the tv show *(spoilers)*
...cryo sleep seem to be a completely safe procedure/tool/whatever youd call it, lol, which further strengthens this theory that animals, especially *Fo4 dogmeat,* couldve been prewar test subjects etc.
I think he a leftover test mutt like CX 404 in the show but that whole time thing sounds like a set up for a scape goat if they need it later
Zetan frozen perhaps..
Humans arent the only ones keeping things on ice
@@The_Lucent_Archangelno dogs were in vault 111. I recently played through the beginning again and in a terminal in vault 111 they do have entries of the residents supposed to be entered into cryo chambers. One entry mentions a family with a dog and it says something like
Spike (Do Not Allow)
One funny thing about the Dogmeat theory: some people accidentally let slip that they’ve never heard of a dog whistle before, because when Nick uses one they assume it’s some kind of special Synth radio device
but how do Nick blow air?
@@helmutkok7833hell, how does nick smoke cigarettes?
@@dr.rockso2703 His cool factor
@@helmutkok7833 He's supposed to imitate a human in all aspects. Obviously, the design has a number of flaws in terms of passability, but mechanically, they nailed it. Installing a couple of airbags as lungs would be a lot easier than functioning fingers
The range of most, if not all, dog whistles barely hits a mile. It's certainly less of a stretch to say dog meat is a synth than it is that the same dog perched up at red rocket near sanctuary was wandering the mutant infested streets of downtown Boston
And that's ignoring the fact that Nick, you know, summons him in a house in the middle of a bustling town
Another note regarding Lanius not being a real, single person: his last legate failed him and he had to make a statement of him. I don't know that Caesar would want to actually share power again with a new legate, but would definitely still want a potential scapegoat if their Mojave campaign continues to undersucceed.
I believe a former Bethesda employee has come out and said that Fallout 3 was supposed to take place 50 years after the bombs fell. But they changed it to 200 years. That’s why there isn’t much work to get DC back on its feet.
There's a few things that don't track there. If aspects like Harold and such were always planned, 50 years would have put him still being out West and getting mutated at Mariposa. If he just up and went East then he wouldn't be there to meet the Vault Dweller and Chosen One in Fallouts 1 and 2. I think it just makes more sense to ascribe the lack of something akin to the NCR out East to other factors not explained yet. In light of 76, maybe something yet to occur in that game will help explain why the Capital Wasteland is behind by the time 3 takes place. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility, especially considering the entry on Vault 76 that you can find in 3 is redacted.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel”if aspects like Harold and such were always planned…” That’s a big if. Let’s be honest, Harold is pretty much an Easter Egg in 3.
In my own personal opinion, 3 is intended to take place no more than thirty years after the Great War, with “Dad” being a student/graduate of a prewar university… Maybe even the CIT…
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Maybe so. But what if Harold started as an Easter Egg, and then the developers decided to go all in with him. It would mess with their original timeline, so the devs pushed it back 150 more years to make it make sense. A few quick adaptations and changing of a few words of dialect, and it’s covered. DC would still be in ruins, since there isn’t any heavy machinery to move the rubble.
@@____________838 It’s plausible. But “dad” doesn’t look all that old (late 20s-early 30s) when you were born. He’d have been real young in college.
Fallout 3 being originally set earlier in the timeline would have been very interesting. We get that in Fallout 76, but having a more desolate wasteland with barely any civilization or resources would have been great to really sell the post apocalypse feel of the series.
one of the worst aspects of Fallout is the timeframes presented. Even with a suspension of disbelief and post apocalypse population decline, there shouldn't be a single can of Scram left and the countryside would be exploding with plant life. That level of desolation yet availability of materials and wooden structures still standing in comparatively good state lends itself to 10-20 years, not 200 years. The big hurdle for Bethesda that they copped out of by setting the timeline so far ahead, is having to spend more time writing the thoughts and behaviors of people that can still remember where everything is, what every appliance does, the phone numbers of their neighbors, still having all of their ingrained social behaviors and government propaganda etc etc. Fallout is a post-post apocalypse story with a world that somehow cant manage to get to the post-part.
@@idrathernot_2 Yeah, Bethesda seemed to have completely missed that the country is supposed to have mostly recovered by the time the games take place. The Interplay games usually took place at a time when people had managed to solve their problems of basic subsistence, created organized societies, and were just starting to poke around in the ruins of the old world to find out what was there. If you look at every other major tragedy in human history, that's what happens. The tragedy happens, the survivors solve their immediate problems, and then the curiosity takes over and they start asking questions about what happened before. Medieval scholars, for example, were obsessed with the Roman empire, and finding out if there was anything they could learn from the Romans. Fallout was about the last step in that process. Then Bethesda came along and completely forgot about that
@@idrathernot_2 My retcon theory (i do think the F3 map was made for 10 to 50 year setting) is that DC keeps getting nuked every now and then like how we can launch an ICBM what if per-war weapons in other parts of the world are being set off at random a computer resets; a scaver throws a switch; a repair bot powers on; and the old world reminds us it still is not fully dead.
@@filmandfirearms Sometimes recover. The Mayans for example didn't. There's also a little known theory that the areas that would become North and South America there were giant kingdoms like one would find in medieval Europe and Asia. However something bad happened like a pandemic or regional war or whatever that caused the whole thing to collapse. The survivors eventually become what are known as the Native Americans/Indians and their individual tribes. The closest European explorers got to finding anything remotely looking like a traditional empire or country were the Aztecs and Incas.
@@chadharger9323 If they don't recover, it's because they were replaced by another group. The Bethesda Fallout world is one where humanity doesn't even try to build back
The Dogmeat theory has one other clue that cements it as true in my head. You find him at the Red Rocket Gas Station just outside Sanctuary. Inside that very station, is the only radio in the entire commonwealth, naturally tuned to the classical radio station. The very same station that the Institute uses for the molecular relay and sending coded messages to their agents in the field.
I've forgotten where I heard/read it but the institute admits they lost track of the sole survivor when he left the vault.
I've forgotten where I heard/read it but the institute admits they lost track of the sole survivor when he left the vault.
About Liberty Prime. Keep in mind the same people that ignored LP for almost 200 years are the same people that completely ignored Metro Men. How can something that has appeared in just about every Fallout game in way or another be completely ignored by both prewar civilization(there are ZERO references to them in any magazine or computer) and by post war people who are very curious about the past(Piper and especially Brotherhood of Steel).
I’m usually not a fan theory backer but, the Legate Lanius one is something I’ve always wanted to be true. The idea that Lanius’ reputation is fueled by multiple tall tales works well for a group like the Legion.
One origin story has Lanius' face being disfigured. In game if you kill him and take his helmet his face doesn't even have a single scar but does have a bitchin handle bar moustache.
Another piece of evidence for the FO3 theory is that Moira Brown asks you to help with her survival guide. Why is someone just now deciding to make a survival book? Why on Earth would she think a place like the super duper mart would still have supplies after 200 yrs of scavenging? At least in FO4 they can blame the lack of regional progress on deliberate sabotaging by the institute. Imo, the FO3 timeline theory is just a fact
Moira is a bit out of it in a lot of ways, but her assumption that some areas may be unlooted due to nearby danger is kinda a core element of the games lol.
I'm sure other people have pitched making survival guides, but few would be in the position to write it, pay someone to do the exploration for it, and then be able to actually produce copies (even an old timey printing press could be a hard bit of tech to put together and maintain, and having someone copying it by hand isn't exactly ideal).
Most of the timeline stuff for 3 ends up making sense. I'm pretty sure the Pentagon had automated defences before the BOS arrived, and I always imagined that Lamplight gets food and meds donated by those who grew up there or who left their kids there. The Super Mutants made rebuilding hard, and not only did the Capitol not have the key heroes earlier in the timeline that California did (VD and Chosen One), but the only GECK in the region was in the very Vault that was the source of the overrunning super mutants.
@byron2FZ lamplight is weirdly enough the one settlement that has everything. Like they even have a farm in the back. Sure it's small, but yeah weirdly the one town that is only kids is the one town that has most of the basic stuff that is needed for a town. Now a different question is where does all the kids come from, like do the ones that leave, just return Any kids they create?
@@luclin92 I think that is the case, and also regular wastelanders who aren't able to take care of their kids will leave them there.
That could explain why there are just generic raider clans in Fallout 3. They haven't had enough time to develop interesting quirks.
And then Fallout 4 has the same problem, despite it being set even later than New Vegas
@@filmandfirearmsI mean at least in 4 they had dedicated groupings (even though they didn't have names) territory, and what not
@@theotheyoutubewatcherista Doesn't matter what they call themselves or what cliques they create. At the end of the day they are free XP that all die the same way.
They're all raiders the same, there's no real difference between the OG Khan's and the Scorpions
The lead theory is probable, but I think it’s much simpler than that…
I have cancer and nerve damage and I know for a fact pain and sickness makes you cranky. Basically everyone in the wasteland has cancer and various illnesses and infections at all times, they’re uneducated, malnourished, and probably high on whatever they can get to dull the pain and try to feel better. You’d expect those kinds of people to be violent, unpredictable, selfish and stupid. Lead probably plays a very small role in how those bandits and raiders act, it’s just miserable people having a horrible life and taking it out on anyone and everyone they see.
In the pre-war opening you can find a dog dish on the floor. When activating it the MC says something about their dog having gone missing. What's the first thing you find outside of Sanctuary? A dog. What was the point of adding the pre-war dog dish and story about a missing dog?
maybe to subtly say how the main character is used to a dog and why dogmeat would come up to him/her instead of any other person, in FO 3 you found dogmeat after the his master is killed which makes it reasonable why he will follow him, but in FO 4 he is just there after who know how long
Because the implication is that dog meat is a direct descendent of your original missing dog.
Sparky?... maybe?
@akumu9188 Or he could be this dog. Notice that ghoulified gorillas in Nuka-World don't look much different, except for the scars from fighting gatorclaws. So maybe some animals are enough rad-resilient to change internally, but not externally?
When some one can say that horrific violent tendancies due to prolonged lead exposure is mundane, and not be incorrect, you know the world has gone to hell
Well that and the fact that most of the planet probably has brain tumors
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 yeah..... yeah...... 🫠yeah
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 good point
You forgot with Dogmeat, another factor is how he looks. No other canine looks good and healthy yet Dogmeat looks like he was cryofroze too in comparrison to all orher dogs.
NV had cyberdogs. The institute was known for entering other regions so there's little doubt they wouldn't have found them. Plus the gorillas in the institute kind of play into messing with nature.
Except you can get Rottweilers in F4
I mean, cats and birds (minus seagulls) seem to be pretty healthy. And they appear in places like Appalachia and New Vegas (the birds), so you can't just say "those creatures were synths too".
I think both Dogmeat and the Sole Survivor are synths. I also don't think Father is actually Shaun, he's just some guy. Mainly because this would make the game more interesting, not because it's actually likely.
My theory is that Dogmeat has psyker abilities. Perhaps a type of precog ability like Mama Murphy. Someone does hint that Dogmeat appear at the right time, right place when needed.
Red rocket that radio in the garage always stuck out to me because we learn in the story that the institute relay through the classical radio station and what’s playing on the radio
My canon is that Dogmeat, a singular being, has been the dog companion in every Fallout game and is the actual main character.
Immortal dog
The only way I ever explained little lamp light. Was that the 16 year olds would be required to have at least one baby before leaving but even then unless it was a really large field trip I'm pretty sure they would have that many people at the end
The blinking lights of the antenna tower came into focus just as I heard a loud snap.
After the fallout show I feel like dogmeat might one of those dogs that where trained and experimented on to be a perfect dog that knows all commands and is a good companion
My theory is that dogmeat is nicks original pet before Nick got turned into a synth but the story never elaborates on that
The idea that Mark is the Mysterious Stranger is kind of impossible, considering the fact that the Mysterious Stranger appears in Fallout 76, well before he should have been alive.
Man I hope this dude gets some merch going. Him and rad king are the highlights of my dad on a long drive or workday
Compassion and happiness are not a sign of weakness but a sign of strength.
When N_orte uploads the fallout community goes crazy 🗣🗣🗣
The most complicated achievements of thought are possible without the assistance of consciousness.
I didnt realize it took so long to phase out lead from gasoline...
That might actually explain a lot about me.
I like the theory Dogmeat is a enclave experiment. I know the Fallout show was made after Fallout 4 but,I'd believe it be retconned as that.
Everyone was curious about the large white blimp that appeared overnight.
Bethesda games Timelines have always bugged me, it's like their world can't move forward, the TV show makes it worse by pulling the West Coast back into these scrappy towns instead of the High tech citys from Fallout 2
My problem is that the timeline is too thick with too much information after the Great War. There's actually too much information to make self-contained main plots for the games. Also Bethesda not only won't use the rest of the planet(like London), they won't bother with other locations that can be used at the same time other major events are happening. For example the Chosen One is starting the final assault against the Enclave. At the same time another Main Character in Dallas, TX just discovered a plot to completely nuke the planet again with the thought to completely wiping out humanity or whatever.
How many Tandi's weren't saved?
I think the Season 2 reveal will be that there was another war after Fallout NV. It's an annoying reset I've got to say but they needed something to keep the post apocalyptic aesthetic and it would make sense with the plot of New Vegas where the second battle of Hoover Dam was just a prelude to something bigger.
@@dfsnsdfn war never changes...
The mysterious stranger is named Farmer. He's an Eldritch Creature. According to the original lore
To be fair to Fallout 3, the issue with the environment could be explained due to the fact the DC area was carpet bombed with nukes. The environment isn’t devastated due to radiation, but all the pollution caused by said radiation. After all, we saw what happened in similar areas like with the Glowing Sea and The Pit
As a child of the 1900-2000. I can confirm that lead and mercury were fun to play with.
As a child of the 70s-80s, we had asbestos.
I like the wall cotton candy
Dogmeat has 150 HP.
Me: huh wait till you mod him into a deathclaw
Fingers crossed that after all these years, these theory’s are something new. And while writing this, I hear “dog meat is a synth”, instant like lol As soon as you leave the vault, you’re watched by Deacon. Dog meat is the perfect inversion of a spy, especially with crows being synths
Could these wild fan theories be true?
Ancient astronaut theorist say yes.
Dogmeat did come through with the settlers. It makes sense that he could have met dog meat.
I like the idea of legate lanius as a walking and ever-growing legend
the mask and armor just make it easier
On the fallout 3 theory, your dad being from outside the vault, being able to get you in, because he is a doctor (something you would maybe think the vault would want to train themselves and not some wastelander? An unexploded nuke that a rich person wants blown up (waits for you to show up) also wouldnt the tower be similar to lamp light? Like a retirement home for the rich, but in an apocolypse?
Also couldnt that mean you could have been born before the war as well? Like you were born the day of or right after. Maybe your dad and mom had a spot but didnt make it cause of your birth? And thats why they needed the doctor (he was the doctor) which im sure the vault lore says overseer is whatever number (not the OG) but how long would someone keep that lie up, especially if you talked to someone who was outside?
I 100% believe the Fallout 3 timeline theory. It makes so much sense. I think 76 was them going back and giving that idea another shot after it didn't pan out in 3.
N_orte uploaded a video, my daughter sighs in sadness of what's to come, me getting giddy pressing play on the video:
Damn he abuses his daughter
@@heyli2197 I grew up in a basement, she's watching game theories. Our abuse ain't the same 🤣
@@azorith6779 damn you were role playing as a mole rat for 18 years
Thats though
@@heyli2197 more so roleplaying as "captive" in an upcoming doco featuring Mussolini
@@azorith6779 damn they brought him back from the dead
The children in Little Lamplight are the children of raiders.
About Lanius, i think hes real, can end things peacefully with 2 speach checks, one actually speach, the other barter.
0:20 I stg he says dog meat is a simp 😂😂
Nah frrr💀💀
Who knew dogmeat was the real bay harbor butcher
The lead theoy has been used to explain the brutality of the Roman empire as all the pluming used lead pipes.
With the Dogmeat theory about watching powerful players could he been trained by Decon? I would assume Decon keeps his connections to Dogmeat a secret thats why the Railroad doesn't say anything about the dog
Dogmeat is one of Rex and Roxies Boston Terrifiers
Also Dogmeat is the only dog immune to radiation in Fallout 4 💪
Bro struggled way too hard on a novice lock
I like to think Lanius was real, but was an overhyped figure, who's deeds were greatly exaggerated in order to create the intimidating character you mentioned; one who could inspire the troops while making the enemy tremble in fear. Think Vasily Zaitsev and the battle of Stalingrad, or any Klingon telling the tale of his/her glorious battles.
We know how his mask is supposed to cover a horribly disfigured face, but if you can get his mask off (depending on either glitches or console commands), his face is perfectly normal. (Or maybe the reason it's so difficult to remove the mask from his carcass is because the developer didn't bother to create a disfigured face, but I like to ignore that tiny detail)
Mine is that the Railroad does the memory wipes to protect themselves and no other reason. While they think this is helping the synth too it is erasing who they are. Many would think this is the same as death. I think there was a movie that had criminals memory wiped instead of executed for high crimes.
Big also the Dogmeat one... the Amazon series already shows that dogmeat was part of an Enclave program and is is only what 5-10 years after Fallout 4. The program might have been going on for much longer and a few might have escaped over the years. They might have been sending them out with agents for a long time as they protected the... formula.
The green tea and avocado smoothie turned out exactly as would be expected.
Not to mention with the lead poisoning causing aggression and lowered iq, that could then be reflected in their children, cause children tend to mirror the behaviour of their parents
I've found myself wondering before if there really is a legate lanius or if he's really just kind of the spirit of the legion
Dogmeat isn't a synth, Dogmeat is an immortal spirit of the wasteland.
That's my personal theory. He's even on the Vaulttec billboard. The little girl is holding him.
im pretty sure the mysterious stranger is Fredrick Rivers or one of his students or descendants
you forgot one detail about dogmeat. the dogmeat specific magazine that you find in the Institute.
I theorize that the mysterious stranger:fallout protagonist::Viktor Reznov:Mason after Vorkuta
Be a good listener. Your ears will never get you in trouble.
Okay, I thought you called Dogmeat a simp and not a synth. Made no sense for a second.
What if Francine didn't really die, but became Miss Fortune, with Mark as the Mysterious Stranger?
I still lean towards the Stranger being either a lightly ghoulified version of the human Nick Valentine, or, possibly, Gandalf.
I do think that the lead poisoning theory is completely canon, save for the fact that literally no-one in canon references it
Great video, N_orte I’m ready for the spooky videos
The BoS and Enclave conflict in Fallout 3 would actually make *more* sense if it was a decade or less after the Great War, because that would imply that the newly formed Brotherhood would've gone on a rampage after the Enclave, which is the surviving remnants of the rat-king of elites that makes up the US shadow government.
It would've been a much better game, and it would've prevented a few huge plot holes in Fallout 4 - namely, what the hell happened to the Brotherhood of Steel in only ten years?
One other hole I can see with Fallout 3 falling in the wrong place of the timeline is that we meet MacCready again in Fallout 4 as an adult. He's even a companion.
As much as I like the "Legate myth" theory, Fallout is not stranger to superhuman characters and scaryingly nuts characters. And the Fallout 3 timeline makes absolute sense to me.
The mysterious stranger theory is unfortunately entirely debunked by the fact that the mysterious stranger is in fallout: 76, unless he also somehow gained time travel powers as well
Dogmeat is a good boy. How dare you.
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The Mark Theory could be true making him the First Succeful Super Human using the FEV, its like he became Cpt. America by surviving the Super Serum and the Others became the Master= the Leader and Harold a weak Hulk=failed Super Mutant.
Francine is secretly lady luck
76 ruins the Mysterious Stranger Theory since he exists in 2102.
You are always free to change your mind and choose a different future, or a different past.
Counter theory: Dogmeat is a genetic engineering experiment and not a robot.
Could possibly be an attempt to make Scooby level sentience in a dog.
lead idea i get but more like joker says when the chips are down these civilized people theyll eat each other. the apocalypse lets people show their true character
The fallout 3 theory makes a lot of sense
I too believe that dogmeat is a simp
I just think Dogmeat is meant to be your first, main or only companion so like other games, he's tough enough to stay with you, smart enough to actually help and dedicated to you and keeping you going and helping to guide your way (Lydia on 4 legs). I can do an entire playthrough with only Buddy (Dogmeat) :).
10:07 what is Mark turned Francine into Miss Fortune?
Mark turned into Marcus the super mutant in New Vegas that runs Jacobs town
I’ll be honest N_orte, I forgot that Screen Rant does anything other than Pitch Meeting. Fallout Pitch Meetings could be fun someday.
Ohh, yeah id definitely buy any "substance poisoning" etc as a valid explanation for, well, most things tbh, lol. And definitely combined with radiation poisoning.
Mysterious Mark is also an awesome theory tbh!
However, is the Lanius really that much different from the player character and their accomplishments? He sounds like some sort of nemesis tbh.
(edit: yeah, obv he *is* the nemesis, but only speaking of the feats here.)
The FO3 theory is even more bolstered accidentally by FO76, which has East Coast BOS and Enclave already just a few decades after the big kaboom (which of course has been criticized for putting yet more BOS content in every FO when they dont necessarily need to be there logically).
N_orte back again with another banger, love the content bro!
The Legate Lanius one makes no sense in my opinion when fallout is full of extraordinarily people like Frank Horrigan,Harrold the courier,Kellog and the ghoul and brain dude from point lookout or Oswald from nuka world with his magic teleporting. Why can Cesare and Joshua's stories of Lanius not be true? If Cesare found Lanius after throwing Joshua off the grand canyon it explains why Joshua has never heard of him. Also we fight him at the end of the 2nd battle for hoover dame and he's as brutal and tough as the legends make him out to be. What is that just a random legion centurion acting out a character? If so how is he able to put up such a fight against at that point a walking apocalypse known as courier 6?
All the theories you named off for dog meat are literally expland in the game. Nick valentine knows dogmeat because it is stated by nick and mama murphy that dogmeat likes to help people in need. Nick also says that only dogs can hear his high frequency whistle in the commonwealth. He Didn't say only dogmeat he said dogs plural as in mord than one
My personal one I developed after Dragon Ball Z. The Master isn't dead, just regaining biomass and technological mass. This is thanks to Cell, from Dragon Ball Z. Cell's ability to regenerate off of just one cell. But also hinges on the consumption of others. It's also the same power set and MO as the Master.
I'd like to see a theory crafter admit that they were wrong. Since you theory crafted before N_orte, will you do that?
Dogmeat a cyber dog more like
The reason why 200 years nobody has cleaned up is the same why nobody todays does it either ... it's to cumbersome to clean up ALL of everything + the state of mind is not anymore the same, it's only about survival and not carring anymore, a depressed world doesn't care about it's surroundings.
Maybe Nick is the mysterious stranger because they both look eerily similar hence also why Nick seems so interested in him, because Nick was a cop and the magnum was something similar to the weapons that sheriffs used to use in the wild West days
I saw this theory recently. Kinda cool
Dogmeat: Debunked. However, not fully, Dogmeat is special. What is it? We just dont know, but Dogmeat isnt a Synth. We know this for a couple reasons, Institute is set as an enemy and they dont have any files. This is important because this is where we learn crows, and many NPC are "spies". They dont know of Dogmeat...
Lead: Yes, I agree it could have played a part, however, watch movie about what happened to NYC when they lost power for a long period of time. People started turning on each other. Same is happening in Fallout. Survival took over.
Marc: Possible and Bethesda could make it so. If I go logically though. Unlikely.
Legate Lanis isnt real: Debunked, Fallout: New Vegas debunks it in lore. You even fight him.
Fallout 3 was suppose to happen earlier: Possible, because Bethesda decided to use some ideas from Fallout 3 that was never released. However, a more likely idea is Bethesda decided to make Fallout 3 like it should be. A post-nuke world. Remember, the reason they havent managed to rebuild is because the Mutants overrun DC. It wasnt until BOS came that anyone has any hope of survival there. They made survival more possible. Now, to be fair, Fallout 3 is the last true Fallout to the plot of Fallout. New Vegas is to empty, Fallout 4 is to settled and green, and Fallout 76 is all of Fallout 4 plus more. It was a change of how Bethesda saw Fallout. I admit, I never liked New Vegas and Fallout 76 because of all this. I shant give my opinion on Fallout 4, it just isnt a true Fallout plot-wise
See the part with Liberty Prime, i don't think it makes sense it would be easily accessed. A weapon like that i would keep under a lot of secuity lockdowns, not to mention physical lock downs... it could have taken 200 years worth of systems and structure degregation for anyone to even attempt to get at it.