Rollers are great for improving balance, pedal technique and your core strength. I’m disabled and ride 20mins every day in a door way. They have done wonders for me. Love the channel, keep it up!
Your spot on. Rollers helped my pedal cadence tremendously. You'll have a hard time with a choppy pedal cadence. After a couple good falls I did put a set of platform pedals on the bike I was using and built a 4" tall box to dismount onto. I felt like it takes better balance than riding on the road, of course I'm not a pro. LOL!!!
I've put ~10,000mi or so on my rollers. You can change the resistance by changing gears. Key to not falling off is to keep your eyes fixed forward (don't look down), such as on the center of a TV screen or something like that. It's pretty easy once you get the hang of it. The heat build up is brutal on tires, however.
I have both. Much preferred using the rollers. In fact, after using them all winter of last year, when I started out on the road again after the snow melted, I felt my pedaling technique was better. I actually was faster and less tired than when I trained with turbo trainers. Great channel, BTW!
I can't think of another cycling related channel that has 100% like rate - shows how awesome your content is. You deserve like 1000x the subs that you currently have, keep up the awesome vids 😘
I have a turbo trainer and I don't use any virtual training app either for the same reason as you. I tried to watch TV shows and UA-cam videos, but I found that it doesn't motivate me. Then I found that GCN has some indoor training videos in a similar fashion like a spinning class. I really like those, I sweat much more when I follow one of those. Give it a try on the turbo.
Another thing you may encounter with the trainer and the rollers that close to your wall is debris and shreds from your rear tyre will end up putting a black stripe on your wall. As a recent subscriber to your channel and a fellow cheapskate, I am loving these videos! Quality entertainment and tightwad reviews. Right up my street. 😁
Damn I was anxious with the wheel riding THAT close to the wall on the rollers!! hahah never would've done that.. was also waiting for the fall, been there.. hahah be aware it gets easier after sometime, tho, been using rollers for 3 weeks now and I can space out on my podcasts or fitness app and still pedal straight no problem - doing good 1-2hours workouts.. Now, I see that Weimo shirt and the Giyo gloves (I have the same ones!) and it brings one subject to the videos.. chinese cycling clothes! Apart from the bad quality "replica" ones, there is good offer of original brands like Santic, Rion, Phmax, Spexcel, Cheji.. All with good products at competitive prices, you should check on that! Great vid as always! Loved the pro camera and fan setup, and the visual effects are on point.. keep the good work Luke!
A tip for rollers - moving them a little further from your wall gives your elbows and shoulders a bit more freedom to move naturally. A full length mirror in front also helps massively in monitoring your bike placement
I prefer it next to the wall for now, as a bit of a novice, gives me a little bit of assurance in case i need to stop suddenly :S The mirror is a great shout tho!
I have used rollers for the past 10 years. After a month of riding on rollers, I became confident enough to be able to watch TV or videos while riding. Originally I was using rollers made with plastic, however, the plastic rollers tended to only last year before they would crack. I spent a larger sum for Kreitler rollers with aluminum rollers and haven't any issues with cracking, nor have I had to replace any parts beyond the elastic band. The only part that I seem to wear out often is rear tires. Between the heat and the weight pressure on the rear, I am only getting about 3 months of riding per rear tire (riding 6 days a week). The front tire doesn't seem to wear as quickly and I replace them every other year. I took an old Schwinn Caliente frame and rebuilt it for use exclusively for rollers. The parts tend not to wear to badly since I am not getting them wet or otherwise facing the elements. I buy 4 of the cheapest Vittoria tires once a year when they are on sale. Thanks for what you do, Luke.
I picked up Elite V-Arion rollers for 25 bucks yesterday. They're old, lack any smart features, but the rolls themselves works great. Lots of good deals on the used market, just be sure you check that the rollers bearings are smooth and nice before you hand over the cash.
It's nice seeing other people's opinion. I prefer rollers too. I rode a trainer and spin bike hours upon hours every week when I raced 20 years ago... I think that mental torment permanently ruined my ability to enjoy any type of indoor cycling. Basic rollers are terrific for warming up, because they also warm-up your equilibrium, brain, and other core muscles necessary for balance, but the resistance is too minimal for serious training... unless you buy a smart roller. I've tried a Zwift/smart trainer setup and was indifferent, but to be honest, skipping a ride every so often these days for bad weather isn't the end of the world to me; I would rather do other indoor exercise to round out my health. It also just makes me appreciate my time outdoors on the boke that much more and helps burnout.
I've always been tempted with rollers but I will stick to my fluid turbo trainer and zwift/sufferfest videos to pass the time for now. Thanks for the vid' Luke
I use the Minoura MOZ rollers and they’re perfect, small rollers but smooth and relatively quiet. I rescued an older aluminum Cannondale CAD3 from the trash and restored it…it’s used as my primary trainer while giving my carbon racer a good winters rest. Training rollers are an excellent workout and will leave you feeling well worked when finished, not to mention it works your core by making you concentrate on smooth power transitions, pedal technique and holding a good solid line. I love them….
@@TraceVelo it's the wheel on version I bought so not as crazy cost wise as the direct drive ones. I had a normal turbo before and I will say using the likes of zwift makes using a trainer actually fun and not soul destroying 😂 great channel keep it up 👍
Just subbed man. I appreciate your cheapskate mindset and aim for simplicity. Most bike UA-camrs are dropping big bucks or are corporate sponsers. You're kinda just a guy who wants to bike on a budget.
Hi Trace (Luce) As always, fantastic Video. I really like your intros and i only can imagine the effort you invest. And your jokes are funny. Move on exactly this way and your counter will BLOW-UP.
I'm pleased to hear you like the rollers. I love mine. I do use a turbo too but the rollers feel like cycling. And for not much extra you can get some with magnetic resistance to add a little something
Use a towel to mop up the sweat and clean the bike after every session. A floor mat to protect the floor and deaden any noise. I got a six piece one for £10 from Halfords and 3 pieces is ideal for my trainer set up; so I use the other 3 pieces elsewhere. When I started I used the GCN workout video's on youtube (free) which I found passed the time and gave me a structure to my workout. Respect with the rollers and as always an entertaining and informative video.
Another top video Luke - careful on those rollers! Like some others have asked, a review of any clothes you've bought from China would be good too - I've had stuff from Thailand and the sizing is always very hard to get right, plus the fit can be proper wonky, so further input would be useful. Keep up the good work!
I've had this comment a few times. Def going to get that video done in the next few weeks. You're right about fit tho, difficult to get right with cheap jerseys ect
"Dumb" trainers or rollers are great, but the speed/cadence sensors aren't great if you're doing structured indoor training. Either a power meter or smart trainer is a huge upgrade when you can actually measure and pace your efforts. But if you're just riding for fitness, it's not needed. I run a power meter with a Kinetic fluid trainer. Great video as always
New to indoor training measure in miles, seasoned indoor trainer, measure in hours 😊 Kudos on the roller mastery tho Luke, it is a surprisingly high and precarious perch when starting... . 😁
The only thing I enjoy about riding a bike is being outside and constantly thinking my way through complex single track, so rollers aren’t for me. Great video as always though
You did really well for a first try, well done. I've got those Giyo mitts from Aliexpress as well, they are the nicest ones I've ever owned for £6.95 ridiculous!
Geez, that was a great save from falling off the rollers! Split second reaction time! I would've hit the deck hard as I'm still quite new to clip-in pedals.
Lol, thanks dude. Yeah it was lucky my cleats weren't even tighter. I usually ride them super tight, but happen to have loosened them for the previous video on the Magnesium pedals...
I bought a cheapo turbo trainer and have added sensors and a computer for indoors training. Just got a powerrrrr meter crank and will be using Rouvy linked up to my 10" tablet.
Hi Luke, I‘m using an improved version of the Elite Arion, called the Arion Elite Smart Digital B+. Is basically the same roller but it has a built in resistance AND interactive (means its Zwift compatible). However my point is is that it can simulate up to 5% slope gradient. Maybe if you want some more adventure you can get it secondhand in the market 😁 i absolutely love it
Well, that's persuaded me to stick with my exercise bike. I can change the resistance up or down. I just go by the feel of it - there are no fancy controls. And it doesn't take up much room, and is ready to go right away.
Thats the thing though, like he alluded to in the video. An exercise bike or a turbo can never improve your actual riding technique like rollers can. I've never met a bad road rider who uses rollers. They are much more technically competent, can track & keep focused a lot better. People who just use turbos don't have the same ability, they may be physically stronger. But in a group ride I'd sooner take less stronger roller lads than just turbo guys. Also Trace if you want resistance based rollers look at Elite V-Ario. Its what I use above about 18mph you can definitely feel it. After half hour or so your having to work quite a bit harder. Look at the British cycling website and GCN for training plans. 👍
If you get some wood squares and mount your trainer to the wood you can put a air mattress under it and it will give you the natural sway that you need for indoor riding 😁
Nice take on the different indoor set ups turbo vs roller. Now you have 2 indoor devices (watched most of your videos while self isolating), multiple wheels, seats, handlebars etc. Where do you find storage for all of the replaced currently unused bike parts? Now to list the unused parts on ebay so you can get some more parts from ebay and aliexpress to create more content..........thank you for the brilliant humorous content! Next thing we know BBC will have you as a presenter.
Really nice video. Well shot. Nice delivery. Quick to the point and not boring at all. Just for your info I just bought a set of elite arion mag rollers. They’re the same as the ones you have apart from they have two additional levels of magnetic resistance (which I haven’t tried yet as I am a massive lightweight) which might go some way to addressing some of the power advantages the turbo has over rollers with no resistance. I really like them.
Thank you so much for this video! You show that my Mountain, Roadmaster bike can be used with a bike trainer! Thank you again, Blessings, Nerry Jimenez Now I need to find one at a reasonable price
Thanks dude. Yeah its paired with an FX 9370 aswell, with the pretty ancient piledriver architecture. Still gets the job done tho. Gaming at 1080p is still pretty doable even with AAA titles
@@TraceVelo With a processor like that, one doesn't even need a stove to cook his meat. Seriously though man hats off not many people making quality content on AMD's 2013 architecture which almost brought AMD down.
Rollers are difficult because of the concentration aspect, and I have Velodrome Experience so I have done it plenty: I can’t do Zwift/movies and rollers at the same time and therefore rollers are only good for short sessions. (You can learn to do rollers with others things if you have natural bikehandeling skills, but it’s a steep learning curve. (Doorposts And chairs are your friend to keep upright.) TIP: if you have the space, a Spinning bike will offer a very stable platform (plenty of second hand available) and the once that work with a belt drive are the quietest if you have thin floors/walls/ceiling)
Haha, I love your channel. You make me laugh every video. As a very dedicated indoor cyclist and outdoor mountain biker you will be doing yourself a disservice to not stand and sprint while on a trainer.
I have some nice rollers I found at a thrift store, used em twice. Tire on trainer? Used it maybe 50 times. Found a used kickr for $400... Used it for 10,000 miles. Just go all the way.
The longest i could do on my turbo is about 60 minutes, then the saddle really starts to dig-in. Also, be careful of the impeller housing, on a long session it gets very hot - i have heard the oil inside crackling and popping it gets that hot.
Rollers are fantastic. You are actually riding/steering, you can't coast, & it is possible to sprint. Don't stare down at the front wheel, it's easier to pick a spot or watch a screen a few feet in front of you. 45 min. on those feels, to me, as good as a 1.5-2 hr. road ride. I always watch Ministry's 'In Case You Didnt Feel Like Showing Up (live)' video, roughly 45 min. There's also a great podcast by a DJ that's a runner, with varying tempos/intensity/mixes, that you could listen to & never repeat. Or to zone out (non-tempo), my friend's podcast, 'Spartacus Roosevelt'.
If you have an ant+ dongle you can use the rgt cycling app which is currently free. Ride real routes like stelvio and cap formentor. Won't alter the resistance on a 'dumb' trainer but certainly easier than staring at a wall.
Good work on the rollers! Rollers fan here too :). With a bit more practice, you'll be climbing out of the saddle and wanting aero bars to practice your TT position :)
Great video Luke! I really like the style of your videos and the funny way you present yourself. Could you tell us about your kit. Your jersey, shorts, and shoes looked really cool.
Nice vid but would like to see your opinion on using a smart trainer and zwift. Changed my opinion on indoor training, not the same as a good outdoor ride but a very enjoyable alternative.
I noticed you are using Shimano tiagra 4700-10speed,you can replace Rear Derailleur with Ultegra 2x11-speed Rear Derailleur RD-R8000 SS or 105 RD-R7000 SS 2x11-speed Rear Derailleur,this huge improvement in the shifting performance.
And with just cheap bluetooth capable speed and cadence sensors you can do Zwift with one of these budget setups. Zwift will work even better if you already have a power meter installed on your bike.
Cheap rollers over cheap resistance trainer. I've had both. Pro tip, if you can squeeze some crappy commuting slow rolling tire on your bike it will dramatically increase resistance.
@@stefanobellote I've just ordered the xoss g+ and with what you can add to it. Going to see how it goes soon. I managed to get rollers and turbo for £25 each but never used them yet..
@@Colin2479 the G+ is an excelent budget option, mine is working really well! Sometimes it takes a little bit to sync the GPS signal outside (like 200-300m), and, well, be aware that it is a $25 head unit and so it doesn't has a lot of functions (although it's enough for my user).. Also, it doesn't support indoor training, as it needs the GPS signal to work.. And so what I'm doing is pairing the Xoss speed and cadence sensors to the Wahoo Fitness app on my phone through BLE and it tracks my roller ride. It works really well too!
Rollers are great for improving balance, pedal technique and your core strength. I’m disabled and ride 20mins every day in a door way. They have done wonders for me. Love the channel, keep it up!
Your spot on. Rollers helped my pedal cadence tremendously. You'll have a hard time with a choppy pedal cadence. After a couple good falls I did put a set of platform pedals on the bike I was using and built a 4" tall box to dismount onto. I felt like it takes better balance than riding on the road, of course I'm not a pro. LOL!!!
What tires are best for the rollers?
I've put ~10,000mi or so on my rollers. You can change the resistance by changing gears. Key to not falling off is to keep your eyes fixed forward (don't look down), such as on the center of a TV screen or something like that. It's pretty easy once you get the hang of it. The heat build up is brutal on tires, however.
Why has it taken me this long to find your channel - by far the best I've seen!
Thanks Stuart, really appreciate it, good to have you on board!
I was thinking the exact same. Great channel, presenting and budget friendly solutions. Thanks.
That rear tyre was damn close to the wall when you were on the rollers! Well judged!
Yeah I only actually noticed that reviewing the footage, totally wasnt intentional... but then again, I do like to live dangerously!
I have both. Much preferred using the rollers. In fact, after using them all winter of last year, when I started out on the road again after the snow melted, I felt my pedaling technique was better. I actually was faster and less tired than when I trained with turbo trainers.
Great channel, BTW!
I love the Trace Velo videos so much, I watch them several times too.
That's awesome!!! Glad you like my video's Krœn T, thanks for the comment 💯 🙏
I can't think of another cycling related channel that has 100% like rate - shows how awesome your content is. You deserve like 1000x the subs that you currently have, keep up the awesome vids 😘
Thanks so so much, what an awesome comment! 🙏
Would warn against hitting the rear brake on the turbo. Tends to melt a groove in your tire :)
Ahh right, good to know, thanks for the tip!!!!
I have a turbo trainer and I don't use any virtual training app either for the same reason as you. I tried to watch TV shows and UA-cam videos, but I found that it doesn't motivate me. Then I found that GCN has some indoor training videos in a similar fashion like a spinning class. I really like those, I sweat much more when I follow one of those. Give it a try on the turbo.
Another thing you may encounter with the trainer and the rollers that close to your wall is debris and shreds from your rear tyre will end up putting a black stripe on your wall.
As a recent subscriber to your channel and a fellow cheapskate, I am loving these videos! Quality entertainment and tightwad reviews. Right up my street. 😁
Damn I was anxious with the wheel riding THAT close to the wall on the rollers!! hahah never would've done that.. was also waiting for the fall, been there.. hahah be aware it gets easier after sometime, tho, been using rollers for 3 weeks now and I can space out on my podcasts or fitness app and still pedal straight no problem - doing good 1-2hours workouts..
Now, I see that Weimo shirt and the Giyo gloves (I have the same ones!) and it brings one subject to the videos.. chinese cycling clothes! Apart from the bad quality "replica" ones, there is good offer of original brands like Santic, Rion, Phmax, Spexcel, Cheji.. All with good products at competitive prices, you should check on that!
Great vid as always! Loved the pro camera and fan setup, and the visual effects are on point.. keep the good work Luke!
That fan setup is amazing. Chapeau.
Brilliant, bought rollers yesterday and needed some tips and confidence, now can't wait to go again tomorrow. Great channel, thanks.
Me: Captain he's at it again!!!
Cap Velo: But damn it , he's my best detective
GOD DAMMIT TRACE!
A tip for rollers - moving them a little further from your wall gives your elbows and shoulders a bit more freedom to move naturally. A full length mirror in front also helps massively in monitoring your bike placement
I prefer it next to the wall for now, as a bit of a novice, gives me a little bit of assurance in case i need to stop suddenly :S The mirror is a great shout tho!
I have used rollers for the past 10 years. After a month of riding on rollers, I became confident enough to be able to watch TV or videos while riding. Originally I was using rollers made with plastic, however, the plastic rollers tended to only last year before they would crack. I spent a larger sum for Kreitler rollers with aluminum rollers and haven't any issues with cracking, nor have I had to replace any parts beyond the elastic band. The only part that I seem to wear out often is rear tires. Between the heat and the weight pressure on the rear, I am only getting about 3 months of riding per rear tire (riding 6 days a week). The front tire doesn't seem to wear as quickly and I replace them every other year. I took an old Schwinn Caliente frame and rebuilt it for use exclusively for rollers. The parts tend not to wear to badly since I am not getting them wet or otherwise facing the elements. I buy 4 of the cheapest Vittoria tires once a year when they are on sale. Thanks for what you do, Luke.
Eyes up! Massively helps with balance ;-)
Thanks for the video, now to hunt down some rollers!
Really good to watch this channel grow. Keep it going, Luke. You got this.
Thanks Edison, appreciate the support as always!!!
I picked up Elite V-Arion rollers for 25 bucks yesterday. They're old, lack any smart features, but the rolls themselves works great. Lots of good deals on the used market, just be sure you check that the rollers bearings are smooth and nice before you hand over the cash.
You couldn't have made a better video, seriously, liked before even watching lol
Awesome, thanks Dany 🙏
Enjoyed the video as I was just about to swap my rollers for the turbos. You’ve changed my mind but you have to stay 100% focused on the rollers.
First 10 seconds and seeing you doing that skit. I already subscribed. Ik this vid is gonna be good
It's nice seeing other people's opinion. I prefer rollers too.
I rode a trainer and spin bike hours upon hours every week when I raced 20 years ago... I think that mental torment permanently ruined my ability to enjoy any type of indoor cycling.
Basic rollers are terrific for warming up, because they also warm-up your equilibrium, brain, and other core muscles necessary for balance, but the resistance is too minimal for serious training... unless you buy a smart roller.
I've tried a Zwift/smart trainer setup and was indifferent, but to be honest, skipping a ride every so often these days for bad weather isn't the end of the world to me; I would rather do other indoor exercise to round out my health. It also just makes me appreciate my time outdoors on the boke that much more and helps burnout.
You make excellent videos! I'm not even a road cyclist but I just watch because I like your style. Well done, keep it coming
thanks
I've always been tempted with rollers but I will stick to my fluid turbo trainer and zwift/sufferfest videos to pass the time for now.
Thanks for the vid' Luke
Awesome, no worries dude!
Your videos give me life mate, keep it up!
Cheers Austin!!!
I use the Minoura MOZ rollers and they’re perfect, small rollers but smooth and relatively quiet. I rescued an older aluminum Cannondale CAD3 from the trash and restored it…it’s used as my primary trainer while giving my carbon racer a good winters rest. Training rollers are an excellent workout and will leave you feeling well worked when finished, not to mention it works your core by making you concentrate on smooth power transitions, pedal technique and holding a good solid line. I love them….
these intros are absolute gold :D Bought a Wahoo Kickr Snap for quarantine and zwift, as a budget smart trainer im finding it amazing.
Thanks Sean, glad you like them! Also Whoo Kickr, freaking great choice if you can afford it
@@TraceVelo it's the wheel on version I bought so not as crazy cost wise as the direct drive ones. I had a normal turbo before and I will say using the likes of zwift makes using a trainer actually fun and not soul destroying 😂 great channel keep it up 👍
Intro in your videos gets me every time. Congrats for creativity.!
Just subbed man. I appreciate your cheapskate mindset and aim for simplicity. Most bike UA-camrs are dropping big bucks or are corporate sponsers. You're kinda just a guy who wants to bike on a budget.
Trace back with that good good
A true man of the people everyone Trace Velo for priminster 2020
Based upon this comment, I would like to officially announce my candidacy for 10 Downing street!
Doooood you're videos are getting better man, keep them up bruh 😎
Thanks Noorman!!!
When you get more used to rollers you can watch a movie or stand up and sprint, you just need to practice on them a little bit.
Hi Trace (Luce)
As always, fantastic Video.
I really like your intros and i only can imagine the effort you invest.
And your jokes are funny.
Move on exactly this way and your counter will BLOW-UP.
NOICE, thanks Phillippe!!!!
Watching one of the many FREE training videos on UA-cam whilst using your turbo/rollers makes indoor trg much more enjoyable.
I'm pleased to hear you like the rollers. I love mine. I do use a turbo too but the rollers feel like cycling. And for not much extra you can get some with magnetic resistance to add a little something
Awesome Luke! May the force continue to be with you,
Use a towel to mop up the sweat and clean the bike after every session.
A floor mat to protect the floor and deaden any noise. I got a six piece one for £10 from Halfords and 3 pieces is ideal for my trainer set up; so I use the other 3 pieces elsewhere.
When I started I used the GCN workout video's on youtube (free) which I found passed the time and gave me a structure to my workout.
Respect with the rollers and as always an entertaining and informative video.
Precisely what I was looking for, thank you for your video and take difference. Love the call out of being a cheapskate, same here, lol.
Luke you crack me up! Love your frugal tendency!!
Another excellent Trace Velo production! Love your stuff man.
Thanks buddy, appreciate it!
agree, a turbo is like a hugely boring torture device whilst rollers has the element of skill and finnesse to them.
Another top video Luke - careful on those rollers! Like some others have asked, a review of any clothes you've bought from China would be good too - I've had stuff from Thailand and the sizing is always very hard to get right, plus the fit can be proper wonky, so further input would be useful. Keep up the good work!
I've had this comment a few times. Def going to get that video done in the next few weeks. You're right about fit tho, difficult to get right with cheap jerseys ect
Biggest indoor cycle flex of 2020 😂. Ohhh that made me crack up.
"Dumb" trainers or rollers are great, but the speed/cadence sensors aren't great if you're doing structured indoor training. Either a power meter or smart trainer is a huge upgrade when you can actually measure and pace your efforts. But if you're just riding for fitness, it's not needed. I run a power meter with a Kinetic fluid trainer. Great video as always
New to indoor training measure in miles, seasoned indoor trainer, measure in hours 😊 Kudos on the roller mastery tho Luke, it is a surprisingly high and precarious perch when starting... . 😁
The only thing I enjoy about riding a bike is being outside and constantly thinking my way through complex single track, so rollers aren’t for me.
Great video as always though
Great video luke... really enjoyed this one. Loved the desk fan and the fall.
Cracking me up dude! I opt for the rollers, all day long. You’re actually “riding” your bike. Can’t stand a turbo trainer.
Love watching your videos. Stay honest! Thanks.
Love your videos m8!! keep it going!
You did really well for a first try, well done. I've got those Giyo mitts from Aliexpress as well, they are the nicest ones I've ever owned for £6.95 ridiculous!
Geez, that was a great save from falling off the rollers! Split second reaction time! I would've hit the deck hard as I'm still quite new to clip-in pedals.
Lol, thanks dude. Yeah it was lucky my cleats weren't even tighter. I usually ride them super tight, but happen to have loosened them for the previous video on the Magnesium pedals...
I love your videos man!
Thanks dude!
I bought a cheapo turbo trainer and have added sensors and a computer for indoors training. Just got a powerrrrr meter crank and will be using Rouvy linked up to my 10" tablet.
Excelent video Luke.. The roller type is the only one that I also use.
Hi Luke, I‘m using an improved version of the Elite Arion, called the Arion Elite Smart Digital B+. Is basically the same roller but it has a built in resistance AND interactive (means its Zwift compatible). However my point is is that it can simulate up to 5% slope gradient. Maybe if you want some more adventure you can get it secondhand in the market 😁 i absolutely love it
Just wanted to say that I only found you a few days ago and I'm already totally addicted! :o) xx
really love your videos man! keep up!
Thanks Sam, appreciate it!
I'm commenting to boost the standing of this content in the algorithm
Nicholas... You legend, thank you, really appreciate it!!!👌😎
Well, that's persuaded me to stick with my exercise bike. I can change the resistance up or down. I just go by the feel of it - there are no fancy controls. And it doesn't take up much room, and is ready to go right away.
Thats the thing though, like he alluded to in the video. An exercise bike or a turbo can never improve your actual riding technique like rollers can.
I've never met a bad road rider who uses rollers. They are much more technically competent, can track & keep focused a lot better. People who just use turbos don't have the same ability, they may be physically stronger. But in a group ride I'd sooner take less stronger roller lads than just turbo guys.
Also Trace if you want resistance based rollers look at Elite V-Ario. Its what I use above about 18mph you can definitely feel it. After half hour or so your having to work quite a bit harder. Look at the British cycling website and GCN for training plans. 👍
If you get some wood squares and mount your trainer to the wood you can put a air mattress under it and it will give you the natural sway that you need for indoor riding 😁
Some rollers do have resistive elements. Pretty easy set up. Definitely a roller fan!
Thank you for this. Just got subbed after this video. Keep it up 👍🏾
Nice take on the different indoor set ups turbo vs roller. Now you have 2 indoor devices (watched most of your videos while self isolating), multiple wheels, seats, handlebars etc. Where do you find storage for all of the replaced currently unused bike parts? Now to list the unused parts on ebay so you can get some more parts from ebay and aliexpress to create more content..........thank you for the brilliant humorous content! Next thing we know BBC will have you as a presenter.
I can see those cheap Aliexpress cycling gloves!! Can you give us a review of cheap Aliexpress cycling clothes if you have anything more to show us.
Yes please
Looks like AliExpress jersey as well although he’s wearing shorts not bibs!?
I certainly like the shorts. Where are they from? TIA
I am with you guys, Chinese clothing please!
played off that brown pants moment very well mate! :)
Really nice video. Well shot. Nice delivery. Quick to the point and not boring at all. Just for your info I just bought a set of elite arion mag rollers. They’re the same as the ones you have apart from they have two additional levels of magnetic resistance (which I haven’t tried yet as I am a massive lightweight) which might go some way to addressing some of the power advantages the turbo has over rollers with no resistance. I really like them.
Thoroughly enojy your channel Luke youre a very creative guy.
I want a cheap powermeter
Will Trace velo able to provide??
Xcadey, you're welcome
I use the Xcadey I bought from AliExpress for like 180€. Very accurate and nice
Fabian Verolme I have had that one and now I have a carbon power2max with fsa carbon cranks, and I can tell you, they’re not as accurate as you think
@@HeathyRoidz my tacx gives like almost the same numbers
Fabian Verolme I have a tacx flow smart, and the number are different from the powermeter itself, sometimes a 10-15W difference
Thank you so much for this video! You show that my Mountain, Roadmaster bike can be used with a bike trainer! Thank you again, Blessings, Nerry Jimenez Now I need to find one at a reasonable price
tip on the turbo, don't use your back brake since you create more friction between the tire and the turbo resistance wheel, just let it roll til stop
I saw an ASUS Radeon card box in the back there. I don't think I can trust your frugality and budget setups anymore. That's a rich man setup
Ha good spot, that's the R9 290x I use, a true powerhouse of 2013 GPU technology
@@TraceVelo NGL You make quality videos for a Graphics solution that dated
Thanks dude. Yeah its paired with an FX 9370 aswell, with the pretty ancient piledriver architecture. Still gets the job done tho. Gaming at 1080p is still pretty doable even with AAA titles
@@TraceVelo With a processor like that, one doesn't even need a stove to cook his meat. Seriously though man hats off not many people making quality content on AMD's 2013 architecture which almost brought AMD down.
Rollers are difficult because of the concentration aspect, and I have Velodrome Experience so I have done it plenty: I can’t do Zwift/movies and rollers at the same time and therefore rollers are only good for short sessions. (You can learn to do rollers with others things if you have natural bikehandeling skills, but it’s a steep learning curve. (Doorposts And chairs are your friend to keep upright.)
TIP: if you have the space, a Spinning bike will offer a very stable platform (plenty of second hand available) and the once that work with a belt drive are the quietest if you have thin floors/walls/ceiling)
😂 love it. After your UA-cam career, Hollywood is waiting for you 😬
Haha, I love your channel. You make me laugh every video. As a very dedicated indoor cyclist and outdoor mountain biker you will be doing yourself a disservice to not stand and sprint while on a trainer.
Great information- thank you!
I have some nice rollers I found at a thrift store, used em twice. Tire on trainer? Used it maybe 50 times. Found a used kickr for $400... Used it for 10,000 miles. Just go all the way.
Solid tires are a good option for a turbo as well, since you're not concerned about ride quality
The longest i could do on my turbo is about 60 minutes, then the saddle really starts to dig-in. Also, be careful of the impeller housing, on a long session it gets very hot - i have heard the oil inside crackling and popping it gets that hot.
Super cool video!!
Rollers are fantastic. You are actually riding/steering, you can't coast, & it is possible to sprint. Don't stare down at the front wheel, it's easier to pick a spot or watch a screen a few feet in front of you. 45 min. on those feels, to me, as good as a 1.5-2 hr. road ride. I always watch Ministry's 'In Case You Didnt Feel Like Showing Up (live)' video, roughly 45 min. There's also a great podcast by a DJ that's a runner, with varying tempos/intensity/mixes, that you could listen to & never repeat. Or to zone out (non-tempo), my friend's podcast, 'Spartacus Roosevelt'.
Awesome vid! I have been thinking about trying the rollers myself.
Thanks Ryan! But yeah, def reccomend it. Takes a bit of practice to master, but well worth it IMO
Nice catch!
If you have an ant+ dongle you can use the rgt cycling app which is currently free. Ride real routes like stelvio and cap formentor. Won't alter the resistance on a 'dumb' trainer but certainly easier than staring at a wall.
Good work on the rollers! Rollers fan here too :). With a bit more practice, you'll be climbing out of the saddle and wanting aero bars to practice your TT position :)
Great video Luke! I really like the style of your videos and the funny way you present yourself. Could you tell us about your kit. Your jersey, shorts, and shoes looked really cool.
I don't have rollers myself, but from what I've read/been told, you should look forward whilst pedalling, instead of down at your wheel.
Hey trace, your channel is gonna spread like wild Corona lol
Ha, thanks Damogan!! 🙏
Nice vid but would like to see your opinion on using a smart trainer and zwift. Changed my opinion on indoor training, not the same as a good outdoor ride but a very enjoyable alternative.
You're chuffing good at this, thank you.
“Come off and hit the lino at that speed” lmao killed me
Loving the content! Keep it up!
I noticed you are using Shimano tiagra 4700-10speed,you can replace Rear Derailleur with Ultegra 2x11-speed Rear Derailleur RD-R8000 SS or 105 RD-R7000 SS 2x11-speed Rear Derailleur,this huge improvement in the shifting performance.
The rollers make your bunch riding skills brilliant.
I’m already live with the turbo trainer for one month since quarantine
Can you please make a video about cheap chinese Lycra? Would be very interesting.
Btw, that intro was genius 👌
And with just cheap bluetooth capable speed and cadence sensors you can do Zwift with one of these budget setups. Zwift will work even better if you already have a power meter installed on your bike.
Cheap rollers over cheap resistance trainer. I've had both. Pro tip, if you can squeeze some crappy commuting slow rolling tire on your bike it will dramatically increase resistance.
Time for you to look at speed and cadence sensors! Tired of paying over inflated prices for products made in China anyway 😂
magene ones are great
Yeah the one in the video cost me £8 from AliExpress, had it for 3 months or so, and it's been prefect so far!
second that! I have the Xoss ones for a little over a month now and working perfectly!
@@stefanobellote I've just ordered the xoss g+ and with what you can add to it.
Going to see how it goes soon.
I managed to get rollers and turbo for £25 each but never used them yet..
@@Colin2479 the G+ is an excelent budget option, mine is working really well! Sometimes it takes a little bit to sync the GPS signal outside (like 200-300m), and, well, be aware that it is a $25 head unit and so it doesn't has a lot of functions (although it's enough for my user)..
Also, it doesn't support indoor training, as it needs the GPS signal to work.. And so what I'm doing is pairing the Xoss speed and cadence sensors to the Wahoo Fitness app on my phone through BLE and it tracks my roller ride. It works really well too!