If you're using a wifi-only iPad, like I am, you don't have to attach a router to the back of the iPad, but it makes it easier to move around and not lose connection to the cameras. The cellular version is obviously a cleaner setup, but this $50 router saved me hundreds of dollars and switching iPads is easier if something happens to this one.
This was fantastic - I got an refurbished 13'' ipad air (M2) from best buys for $500 w/ cellular in it. Only using it for monitoring, so the iPad pro would have been overkill and way more expensive. Thanks for this - helped make my buying decision.
I also am going to watch your video until the end now but I also have an Ipad that has not celular data among other problemas I have had with the connectivity even with my iPhone.
So, i have an issue with mine, i have connected mine in the same way as this is already part of my setup for other things, i have 3 compatible cameras all connected to the router, all even have internet, my tablets are also connected to the router, however it constantly says no compatible cameras to connect to, i can connect individually and i can see on the router they're connected to the hotspot when trying multi cam but the list is always empty, also all are on latest and compatible firmwares
Nice set up! Would you say the router add not only a bit more range, but speed to the M&C app? meaning that if you have several cameras connected, you'd drop less frames with the router on?
With the router, the multicam-view's frame rate is still pretty slow when there are 3 cameras connected and displayed all at once. Off the top of my head, I think it's between 6-10 frames per second for each camera. Going into a single camera view, you can choose to prioritize image quality (but have less frames) or frame rate (but have lower image quality)
Yesterday I was on a shoot and it was kind of a nightmare, and I was just trying to use 1 camera (FX30) and my iPhone. Took me forever to get it connected but once I did it worked until I turned off my camera or closed my iPhone. When starting my camera back up it would always give the failed to connect to the camera warning and then I would have to fiddle for over 20 minutes trying to get it to connect again. Cannot remember what sort of worked but basically kept having to turn off bluetooth or remove the camera from the app other wise it would never pair even after pairing the first time before I shut the camera down? Any body have success getting it to work properly or what the exact way is to get it working and keep working automatically every time I want to use it or turn my camera off? Seems pretty useless if just turning the camera off makes this happen? Thanks !
@@keith-knittel if you were to go down the cellular route would you need to have a big data plan? Or is it just the network that the iPad will create that you will use and not the data?
@@petercarneyphoto You do not need to have a data plan at all, the wifi network that the iPad creates does not need to be connected to the internet for the multicam to work. The wifi only version of iPad is unable to create a wifi network, that is why you need a router to create a network for you. If you have the wifi+cellular version, you don't need the router.
I literally have the same exact setup! Even the NP-F to vmount adapter. Handles and all.😁.... But what I didn't know is that they had the nato rail version of the handles 🤔.wish I went that route instead. I have the dji sdr transmission system hooked up to it . But good stuff man! Love the content.
@@keith-knittel I love it! But I have to agree, screwing and unscrewing to add/remove your iPad takes a little time, so for me I tend to leave it in there if I know I have a shoot or two coming up but other than that I take it out when idle. But I feel like the overall kit is worth it for anyone who wants a director/client monitor or in your case multicam and protect their iPad at the same time. Plus it looks really professional 😁.
Yeah, you don't need a router. You can use your phone hotspot and connect both the cameras and the tablet to it. I'm not quite sure why he used a router, must be something I'm missing...
@@keith-knittel I'm European, so I don't understand the Apple hype that's happening in the US. I've been living in LA for 5 years and I'll never understand why someone would choose to work on a Mac or iPad, but it seems like a lot of creatives are. It just feels like most creatives are using Apple stuff. I work in video production - cinematographer, editor, VFX, motion graphics, Blender... And it would be impossible for me to do it on a Mac. It's actually easier to develop for Android, they just choose to not alocate resources into that.
@@keith-knittel Oh, why didn't you just use your phone hotspot instead of a whole router setup? I have an FX6 and two FX30s and I use my phone to connect all three cameras and the tablet to. It works perfectly.
@@lukastemberger I have a mac and build custom PCs - I tend to like the simplicity of a mac better. After the apple silicon chips, I feel like apple has a great lead on performance and stability with larger projects, but they cost a LOT and you can't upgrade them after the fact. I feel like the real power of the apple ecosystem comes together when you have an iPhone, mac and iPad. You could be using them all together, and your airpods just work with all of them depending on what one is playing sound at the current time. A lot of small conveniences like that add up to a better user experience IMO. Thats why I tend to use my apple products more
@@lukastemberger My first instinct was to use my phone hotspot, but I like the idea of having one device be the "camera feed". I can keep a dedicated iPad near my camera and router, but if I'm using my phone, have to step away from the cameras, take a call, etc - the cameras and iPad being connected to my phone could lose connection. Or if my iPhone's battery dies, the iPad is useless at that point because it wont receive a signal. It could work, but it seems fiddley and fiddley on set usually leads to issues. A $50 router that plugs into the iPad v-mount, or can even be powered by plugging it into the wall seemed like a better fit for me
I was able to get a signal about 100 feet away through 4 walls before the signal dropped out, If you have a lot of area to cover, taking the router off of the ipad and placing the router between the ipad and cameras will help a lot, or if you really need to, use a mesh network. Most of the things I'm doing with Sony multi cam, the camera is within 50 feet of the iPad, so I just put it on the back of the iPad. I'm sure this isn't the optimal use-case for the router's signal, but it's working fine for what I need it to do
Agree, if transmission is your main objective, there are much more reliable and high resolution options out there - but when it comes to operating multiple cameras and changing settings in the same area with a small team, this has been fantastic to use
If you're using a wifi-only iPad, like I am, you don't have to attach a router to the back of the iPad, but it makes it easier to move around and not lose connection to the cameras. The cellular version is obviously a cleaner setup, but this $50 router saved me hundreds of dollars and switching iPads is easier if something happens to this one.
This was fantastic - I got an refurbished 13'' ipad air (M2) from best buys for $500 w/ cellular in it. Only using it for monitoring, so the iPad pro would have been overkill and way more expensive. Thanks for this - helped make my buying decision.
I also am going to watch your video until the end now but I also have an Ipad that has not celular data among other problemas I have had with the connectivity even with my iPhone.
Amazing workaround! Just ordered the whole lot (for my WiFi only IPad) You’re the best.
Thank you! Let me know how this works for you. I've been really enjoying this setup so far
@@keith-knittel how are you using the router? access point mode I presume? or Hotspot mode?
So, i have an issue with mine, i have connected mine in the same way as this is already part of my setup for other things, i have 3 compatible cameras all connected to the router, all even have internet, my tablets are also connected to the router, however it constantly says no compatible cameras to connect to, i can connect individually and i can see on the router they're connected to the hotspot when trying multi cam but the list is always empty, also all are on latest and compatible firmwares
Hey… link for the npf to vmount adapter?
can you use this set up for livestreaming?
Sorry, I'm not familiar with live streaming from the Monitor and Control app
Nice set up! Would you say the router add not only a bit more range, but speed to the M&C app? meaning that if you have several cameras connected, you'd drop less frames with the router on?
With the router, the multicam-view's frame rate is still pretty slow when there are 3 cameras connected and displayed all at once. Off the top of my head, I think it's between 6-10 frames per second for each camera. Going into a single camera view, you can choose to prioritize image quality (but have less frames) or frame rate (but have lower image quality)
Awesome video! I was just trying to engineer a solution like this and here you've done it for me. Thank you!!!!
Awesome! Let me know how you like it and if you made any updates! This setup has been working great for me so far
This is the exact problem I had
Yesterday I was on a shoot and it was kind of a nightmare, and I was just trying to use 1 camera (FX30) and my iPhone. Took me forever to get it connected but once I did it worked until I turned off my camera or closed my iPhone. When starting my camera back up it would always give the failed to connect to the camera warning and then I would have to fiddle for over 20 minutes trying to get it to connect again. Cannot remember what sort of worked but basically kept having to turn off bluetooth or remove the camera from the app other wise it would never pair even after pairing the first time before I shut the camera down? Any body have success getting it to work properly or what the exact way is to get it working and keep working automatically every time I want to use it or turn my camera off? Seems pretty useless if just turning the camera off makes this happen? Thanks !
great setup! thanks for sharing!
Thank you!
So - you don't actually need internet for this work, it's just using the access point to stream the cameras all together right?
Correct, you do not need to be connected to the internet, just a wifi network generated by the ipad or router
@@keith-knittel if you were to go down the cellular route would you need to have a big data plan? Or is it just the network that the iPad will create that you will use and not the data?
@@petercarneyphoto You do not need to have a data plan at all, the wifi network that the iPad creates does not need to be connected to the internet for the multicam to work. The wifi only version of iPad is unable to create a wifi network, that is why you need a router to create a network for you. If you have the wifi+cellular version, you don't need the router.
@@keith-knittel thanks for the explanation. Appreciate it.
I literally have the same exact setup! Even the NP-F to vmount adapter. Handles and all.😁.... But what I didn't know is that they had the nato rail version of the handles 🤔.wish I went that route instead. I have the dji sdr transmission system hooked up to it . But good stuff man! Love the content.
Haha love it! How have you been liking the setup? Big fan of nato handles
@@keith-knittel I love it! But I have to agree, screwing and unscrewing to add/remove your iPad takes a little time, so for me I tend to leave it in there if I know I have a shoot or two coming up but other than that I take it out when idle. But I feel like the overall kit is worth it for anyone who wants a director/client monitor or in your case multicam and protect their iPad at the same time. Plus it looks really professional 😁.
Was configuring the router from iPad to iPhone complicated?
I do not use my phone with this setup. I'm connecting the ipad to the router, then the cameras to the routers wifi network
Oh yes! I am totally doing this! Great idea with the router. 👊
Love to hear it! This setup has been working really well for me so far
Really unique rig- I dig it
It took a while to get this to where it is, but it's working pretty well! Just need to find a bag or case to put this in while transporting it
Ah ha! .... I was wondering why I couldn't multicam using my phone hotspot. So multicam monitoring ONLY works on ipad?
Yeah! As of now, multi cam is only supported on the tablet versions of the app
Yeah, you don't need a router. You can use your phone hotspot and connect both the cameras and the tablet to it. I'm not quite sure why he used a router, must be something I'm missing...
@@lukastemberger for sure u missing some grey metter
@@simoz78 Lol no. I'm using my phone to connect 3 cameras. No routers.
Where did you get the iPad cage 😮
Is there an 11 “ version 😮
@@LouisLuzuka Accsoon PowerCage II can fit 11'' iPad.
@@jasonberkey9151 😍
Dope video! Really enjoyed this!
Thank you! 🙏
Great video, thanks!
Thanks, John!
Nice setup !! Fire Fire
Thank you!
3:26 Nice
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nice setup & bad conect preview
I just wish they would add multi-cam to Android tablets too...
Yeah, seems like many companies are making apps for iOS first. Is the Android market smaller or more difficult to develop for than iOS?
@@keith-knittel I'm European, so I don't understand the Apple hype that's happening in the US. I've been living in LA for 5 years and I'll never understand why someone would choose to work on a Mac or iPad, but it seems like a lot of creatives are. It just feels like most creatives are using Apple stuff. I work in video production - cinematographer, editor, VFX, motion graphics, Blender... And it would be impossible for me to do it on a Mac.
It's actually easier to develop for Android, they just choose to not alocate resources into that.
@@keith-knittel Oh, why didn't you just use your phone hotspot instead of a whole router setup?
I have an FX6 and two FX30s and I use my phone to connect all three cameras and the tablet to. It works perfectly.
@@lukastemberger I have a mac and build custom PCs - I tend to like the simplicity of a mac better. After the apple silicon chips, I feel like apple has a great lead on performance and stability with larger projects, but they cost a LOT and you can't upgrade them after the fact. I feel like the real power of the apple ecosystem comes together when you have an iPhone, mac and iPad. You could be using them all together, and your airpods just work with all of them depending on what one is playing sound at the current time. A lot of small conveniences like that add up to a better user experience IMO. Thats why I tend to use my apple products more
@@lukastemberger My first instinct was to use my phone hotspot, but I like the idea of having one device be the "camera feed". I can keep a dedicated iPad near my camera and router, but if I'm using my phone, have to step away from the cameras, take a call, etc - the cameras and iPad being connected to my phone could lose connection. Or if my iPhone's battery dies, the iPad is useless at that point because it wont receive a signal. It could work, but it seems fiddley and fiddley on set usually leads to issues. A $50 router that plugs into the iPad v-mount, or can even be powered by plugging it into the wall seemed like a better fit for me
Clever
Modern problems require modern solutions ha
i like this, but this is a substantial investment for a very weak and short distance signal.
I was able to get a signal about 100 feet away through 4 walls before the signal dropped out, If you have a lot of area to cover, taking the router off of the ipad and placing the router between the ipad and cameras will help a lot, or if you really need to, use a mesh network. Most of the things I'm doing with Sony multi cam, the camera is within 50 feet of the iPad, so I just put it on the back of the iPad. I'm sure this isn't the optimal use-case for the router's signal, but it's working fine for what I need it to do
WiFi is sadly such a poor unreliable solution that is subject to more interference than a true video transmission link.
Agree, if transmission is your main objective, there are much more reliable and high resolution options out there - but when it comes to operating multiple cameras and changing settings in the same area with a small team, this has been fantastic to use