Don't forget The Twelve from CW for those wanting and willing to spend for a bit more than what PRX offers; puts the squeeze on the premium charged for the PRX Powermatic.
I guess it's technically competition, but with the same movement family inside and both owned by the same parent company, I feel like this is more a PRX for markets where Certina is the more popular option.
With my wife we have a total of 4 certina watches (so far) in a collection of many other brands - Certina is always our go-to for design, quality and overall value.
Great video Teddy. I had a cool idea for a video series that others might like as well. It would be to highlight watchmaking in different regions/countries. Basically you pick a region/country and find definitive watches for different price points
Tried the PRX and Tsuyosa. Sold them both. The 40mm & case shape was way too big for my 17,5cm. Plus this particular genre & style demands a more elegant look, that you can not provide, if you offer a bigger case design. Now I am very happy with my light blue Certina DS 7! You can click the endlinks even down and reduce the lug to lug span & the case design on the edges feels more „correct“ than on a PRX.
Nice alternative. I'm still wishing that Swatch Group had left an easily adjustable regulation lever (as on ETA 2824) when they introduced the eighty hour pr movements. It's telling that Tissot used a 2824 on their recent heritage 1938 chronometer reissue.
Great video Teddy. I bought the DS-7 black dial a few months ago and I really like it. Yes Certina is my favorite brand and I like the style so I had to get it. I have both quartz and auto PRX models but the Certina is a more modern take. Even if the Tissot looks more flashy and is very well finished, the Certina feels more premium and you have to hold it in hands to see it. The case finish feels so smooth, no sharp egdes, very comfortable. The crystal has more anti reflecting coating and the bezel is much more complex. You pay a bit more but yes you get a bit more in my opinion. Also some don't like Tissot's Powermatic 80 23 jewels version you get with the PRX. And thanks for adressing the movement confusion, many still mixing Powermatic with the Swatch System51 for some reason. I guess when other famous UA-camrs give false informations for years about this it doesn't help (yes talking to you, Tristano)
@@Seajay2016 I had one of mine serviced from an independent watchmaker but he didn't have to replace parts. Still most of the parts are identical to the 2824-2 so if it doesn't need replacement of a Powermatic specific part it shouldn't be a big deal.
@@Dazulolwarrior is this about the plastic parts? Because you should know that these movements are easily serviceable at a low price from Tissot. Nobody has reported the nylon parts inside the watch breaking so far. It's just watch nerds making a mountain out of a molehill. The only weakness this calibre is known to have is that hand winding it too often can damage it (causing spinning rotor syndrome). But that's hardly a dealbreaker. The ETA C07.111 and C07.611 are solid movements and the people hating on it are largely misinformed.
These are great looking watches and they look like they're solidly made. Very informative video too. I may have to keep these on my radar. I think they look more unique than the PRX.
Very nice watch,looks very good and finishing realy precious...at the same price than prx i go for the certina who is also a brand with good reputation and old historical...
To me, the 1888 on the dial is one of its drivers. looks great. I seem to recall viewing a pretty Certina without the 1888 and was like, nah...too much lost appeal.
The Titanium version, with the Powermatic 80, costs under 1000€, where I live, that's crazy. Might actually get one, this watch wasn't on my radar at all! I'm also glad they're using the better version of the Powermatic 80, without the plastic escapement, contrary to the PRX.
I have seen them all live. Maybe because I am from Denmark (EU). They are very nice - looks to me like you get a lot of watch for the money. The Titanium with the blue dial stands out because that blue is much stronger / striking than you might expect.
Let's be honest, no one can beat the PRX, especially the automatic version, in that price segment, even watches that are a few thousand dollars more expensive. Why? 1) Bracelet quality is almost at the same level as luxury watches, I even claim it is better than SMP 300 ugly bracelet, oyster bracelet etc. 2) The mechanism may be low 3hz beat , but this watch keeps time very well, it did not deviate even 1 minute on my wrist in a month. 3) The brand, yes it is not as cool as luxury brands, but Tissot is a really nice watch brand with a good history. 4) Leather strap and rubber strap offer options suitable for all seasons and tastes. 5) It is versatile 6) Yes, this is a characteristic watch that deserves to be included in a distinguished collection. 7) It has excellent finishing on its case and bracelet. 8) The anti-reflection coating on the sapphire glass has a high-level coating. Brands need to work much better to compete with this watch.
Yes, this offering from Certina is OK but falls short of the PRX in terms of aesthetic appeal and bang for buck. I got my PRX in December and wear it more than anything else . . . Longines and Oris included. Everything else looks boring in comparison, including this DS-7.
I have been collecting for over 20 years with over 100 pieces currently, agnostic to price and brands. I have the ice blue 40 mm prx and 40 mm nordic blue cw twelve. Except for the movement, the prx is a level or two below the cw. The movement is not important to me because when I look at my wrist, 2 s/d difference is inconsequential. The sharp underfinished case and bracelet, especially the sharp underside, with flatter lugs, and clasps hot spots are some revealing differences. The prx is good and probably segment leader for integrated under 1k (gently used for around 450 usd). However, approaching 1k, the cw and the f77 have to be the first choices. Additionally, I have the blue ds 2, and the ds case of Certina has to be factor to consider for a beater. I am looking at my 4 integrated (prx, cw, atelier wen, and 15550) now and the cw is the best bang for the buck. Imho
@@awnik99 This is your own personal opinion, the sales figures and the success it has created show that your argument is limited to you and not about general people's preference.
Man. Certina has so many sick designs in perfect sizes for smaller wrists, but I can't find any in the NY area and I'd like to try on any watch before ordering one. Maybe I just have to take a trip to Cleveland.
Teddy, I'm always curious about which watch you have on in each video. While stating in each video what is on wrist may not be something you want to do, I think having it in the description would be great. It'll give ppl an idea of how a particular watch wears naturally on a person with similar sized wrist. And I think ppl in general would like to know what you wear and what's in your collection. ;-) But seriously, the size for reference would be great from a zoomed out view.
Ah, I hoped it would have a screw down crown. Even if it isn’t necessarily needed for water resistance, a screw down crown still provides a feeling of security. Mido TV Big Date has a screw down crown for example.
I know it costs more but the CW Twelve is still the king of integrated bracelets under 2k. Outstanding value for money, great design, amazing details, great finish overall. It gets a lot of attention on the wrist without being tacky or flashy. I own one and it's really one of my best buy recently.
I like the bracelet on this more than my prx & that it's available in titanium too. But I think the dial & how the case transitions into the bracelet is much nicer on the PRX. Plus lets face it, that waffle dial has become iconic! Long story short- It's a good contender & a great choice for many, but I'm happy with my prx.
Sounds cool! I'm glad to hear that Teddy's video is about to hit 1 million views. That's a major milestone to celebrate. As for the congratulatory gifts
I'd personally say it comes very close but I'd still give the money to Tissot. The PRX imo was a pure home run and like you said... It sorta pays to come first. Great review as always mate.
Good review. I really like Certina and feel that their watches look and feel a little more premium than equivalent Tissot offerings . . . then again they usually cost slightly more. You hit the nail on the head with the character comment. The DS-7 is a nice watch but to me the design doesn't have the same coherence as the PRX or indeed some of Certina's other offerings . . . I would maybe pick one up at the right price but not a 'must have' like the PRX.
Very nice watch and as usual awesome review. I dont see how it competes with PRX as the case design is pretty different. Only similarity is the integrated bracelet but I dont see how it competes anymore than any other watch in the price point. BTW the PRX design style is awesome no matter how fatigued people may be about it..
The problem is the swatch group have really downgraded some of the brands longines for instance should really be a brand up there with Rolex omega and certina should really be a premium diving Watch
So regarding the esthetics, I think the bracelet in the certain is nicer the dial colors I actually like more. But the prx I just think overall, when you look at it ...looks more unique
I love titanium. Light, soft on the skin, very lowkey and not flashy. I prefer lighter watches. I know some people love heavy watches but I'm not one of them.
See, I’m a Tissot fan and I just think they are finished slightly better. Very comparable but, as a little example, the date window on the PRX is framed, whereas the Certina is just cut out. It’s the little details…
I really try to like this one and it for sure is not a bad watch! But... I feel like the bracelet tapers too early and too much, this way the round case somehow doesnt look right to me. Definitely a worthy oponent for the PRX though and I think it just comes down to preference (as almost always)
Is it worth it to invest in a "gold" watch? It seems that watch manufacturers increase the cost of the watch way higher than the market value of the metals used. I really think you could do an in depth analysis of this. Add on top of that the diamonds and stones. It seems they take a $1k stone and sell it for 5k when its on a watch.
Does anybody know if Certina still uses that shock absorber around the movement as part of the “DS” system? I read some places they still use it, and other places they don’t use it anymore .
Completely off topic for this video but I thought I would ask in the newest posted video. Why isn't Seiko astron of interest as far as your channel is concerned. And if they are why haven't you done any videos on them?
The problem with micro brands is that in recent years its become super saturated. IMHO the watch industry is moving to a point where the premium brands will now become even more 'desirable' and 'luxurious'.
It's a nice watch, but not as nice as the PRX. My personal opinion: the bezel ring is too thick, the crown guard ruins the aesthetics of an all-in-one watch, the color is interesting but doesn't go with this style of watch, and the bracelet doesn't seem to be as good as it could be (maybe it's too thin on top?)
It's a nice watch but not as nice as a PRX. My personal opinion: the bezel ring is too thick, crown guards take away from the aesthetic of integrated watches, colors are fun but don't go well in this style watch and the bracelet seems underwhelming (maybe too thin on top?)
PRX is seeing some increased competition; first the citizen tsuyosa, and now this. Great to see quality options emerge in the market
Don't forget The Twelve from CW for those wanting and willing to spend for a bit more than what PRX offers; puts the squeeze on the premium charged for the PRX Powermatic.
@@waffle911Dont forget the Casio Edifice EFR-S108D Collection in tiffany, green, blue, black, white for about 100 euros...those are valuemonster
citizen tsuyosa is beaitful watch love it color are amazing and looks perfect
@@waffle911the twelve from christopher ward has a cheaper movement though
I guess it's technically competition, but with the same movement family inside and both owned by the same parent company, I feel like this is more a PRX for markets where Certina is the more popular option.
At 39mm it hardly splits the difference between the PRX 40 and 35. 37 is probably what a lot of us is looking for.
Powermatic 80 does great in my Tissot Gentleman (Silicium).. -2 sec per day
With my wife we have a total of 4 certina watches (so far) in a collection of many other brands - Certina is always our go-to for design, quality and overall value.
@@bluesh0es Yup, DS-1 Big Date 60th Anniversary
Great video Teddy. I had a cool idea for a video series that others might like as well. It would be to highlight watchmaking in different regions/countries. Basically you pick a region/country and find definitive watches for different price points
Tried the PRX and Tsuyosa. Sold them both. The 40mm & case shape was way too big for my 17,5cm. Plus this particular genre & style demands a more elegant look, that you can not provide, if you offer a bigger case design. Now I am very happy with my light blue Certina DS 7! You can click the endlinks even down and reduce the lug to lug span & the case design on the edges feels more „correct“ than on a PRX.
Finally Certina, yes very underrated and a rare sight on watch channels. Another brand you seldom see on these videos is Eterna.
Eterna was once a great brand bit infortunately they haven't done really well in the past 10 years. It's a shame considering their history.
I'm quite surprised that Eterna still exists in 2024. They just disappeared some years ago and haven't come back yet.
Nice alternative. I'm still wishing that Swatch Group had left an easily adjustable regulation lever (as on ETA 2824) when they introduced the eighty hour pr movements. It's telling that Tissot used a 2824 on their recent heritage 1938 chronometer reissue.
This beats the prx for me, I recently wore the blue DS-7 for a while and loved it. Underrated.
Great taste as always Teddy. I’m a huge fan of Certina. Recently I posted a video about them also, though yours is a million times better 😂.
Great video Teddy. I bought the DS-7 black dial a few months ago and I really like it. Yes Certina is my favorite brand and I like the style so I had to get it. I have both quartz and auto PRX models but the Certina is a more modern take. Even if the Tissot looks more flashy and is very well finished, the Certina feels more premium and you have to hold it in hands to see it. The case finish feels so smooth, no sharp egdes, very comfortable. The crystal has more anti reflecting coating and the bezel is much more complex. You pay a bit more but yes you get a bit more in my opinion. Also some don't like Tissot's Powermatic 80 23 jewels version you get with the PRX. And thanks for adressing the movement confusion, many still mixing Powermatic with the Swatch System51 for some reason. I guess when other famous UA-camrs give false informations for years about this it doesn't help (yes talking to you, Tristano)
Isn't it hard to service the movement?
@@Seajay2016 I had one of mine serviced from an independent watchmaker but he didn't have to replace parts. Still most of the parts are identical to the 2824-2 so if it doesn't need replacement of a Powermatic specific part it shouldn't be a big deal.
Its quite funny because certina is very very popular here in sweden, but it is also a very popular brand in norway as well
I’ve had a prx and own this certina. Certina is amazing
Prx still looks more premium!
Way more premium looking. This one looks like a Citizen Tsuyosa with different proportions. The PRX's dial is way better.
Yea and the prx is the looks good outside, is garbage inside. Id rather get the quartz
@@Dazulolwarrior is this about the plastic parts?
Because you should know that these movements are easily serviceable at a low price from Tissot. Nobody has reported the nylon parts inside the watch breaking so far. It's just watch nerds making a mountain out of a molehill.
The only weakness this calibre is known to have is that hand winding it too often can damage it (causing spinning rotor syndrome). But that's hardly a dealbreaker. The ETA C07.111 and C07.611 are solid movements and the people hating on it are largely misinformed.
The plastic spacer is the problem not the watch or movement itself
I agree they could have done a little better with making the dials pop
These are great looking watches and they look like they're solidly made. Very informative video too. I may have to keep these on my radar. I think they look more unique than the PRX.
Very nice watch,looks very good and finishing realy precious...at the same price than prx i go for the certina who is also a brand with good reputation and old historical...
To me, the 1888 on the dial is one of its drivers. looks great. I seem to recall viewing a pretty Certina without the 1888 and was like, nah...too much lost appeal.
Same exact thought
The Titanium version, with the Powermatic 80, costs under 1000€, where I live, that's crazy. Might actually get one, this watch wasn't on my radar at all!
I'm also glad they're using the better version of the Powermatic 80, without the plastic escapement, contrary to the PRX.
I have seen them all live. Maybe because I am from Denmark (EU). They are very nice - looks to me like you get a lot of watch for the money. The Titanium with the blue dial stands out because that blue is much stronger / striking than you might expect.
Let's be honest, no one can beat the PRX, especially the automatic version, in that price segment, even watches that are a few thousand dollars more expensive.
Why?
1) Bracelet quality is almost at the same level as luxury watches, I even claim it is better than SMP 300 ugly bracelet, oyster bracelet etc.
2) The mechanism may be low 3hz beat , but this watch keeps time very well, it did not deviate even 1 minute on my wrist in a month.
3) The brand, yes it is not as cool as luxury brands, but Tissot is a really nice watch brand with a good history.
4) Leather strap and rubber strap offer options suitable for all seasons and tastes.
5) It is versatile
6) Yes, this is a characteristic watch that deserves to be included in a distinguished collection.
7) It has excellent finishing on its case and bracelet.
8) The anti-reflection coating on the sapphire glass has a high-level coating.
Brands need to work much better to compete with this watch.
Yes, this offering from Certina is OK but falls short of the PRX in terms of aesthetic appeal and bang for buck. I got my PRX in December and wear it more than anything else . . . Longines and Oris included. Everything else looks boring in comparison, including this DS-7.
I have been collecting for over 20 years with over 100 pieces currently, agnostic to price and brands. I have the ice blue 40 mm prx and 40 mm nordic blue cw twelve. Except for the movement, the prx is a level or two below the cw. The movement is not important to me because when I look at my wrist, 2 s/d difference is inconsequential. The sharp underfinished case and bracelet, especially the sharp underside, with flatter lugs, and clasps hot spots are some revealing differences.
The prx is good and probably segment leader for integrated under 1k (gently used for around 450 usd). However, approaching 1k, the cw and the f77 have to be the first choices.
Additionally, I have the blue ds 2, and the ds case of Certina has to be factor to consider for a beater.
I am looking at my 4 integrated (prx, cw, atelier wen, and 15550) now and the cw is the best bang for the buck.
Imho
9) Its one of the ugliest watches aviable
@@awnik99 This is your own personal opinion, the sales figures and the success it has created show that your argument is limited to you and not about general people's preference.
I already have the PRX Tiffany Dial so I would have to see the Certina in person and maybe go for the Titanium option 😎
Man. Certina has so many sick designs in perfect sizes for smaller wrists, but I can't find any in the NY area and I'd like to try on any watch before ordering one. Maybe I just have to take a trip to Cleveland.
They are a bit harder to find in North America, same issue here in Montreal, Quebec
@@andrejohnson6731 I haven't even seen them in Asia or South America, somehow I never travel anywhere they retail :/
Teddy, I'm always curious about which watch you have on in each video. While stating in each video what is on wrist may not be something you want to do, I think having it in the description would be great. It'll give ppl an idea of how a particular watch wears naturally on a person with similar sized wrist. And I think ppl in general would like to know what you wear and what's in your collection. ;-) But seriously, the size for reference would be great from a zoomed out view.
I’ve never liked the PRX, but these look way better
Ah, I hoped it would have a screw down crown. Even if it isn’t necessarily needed for water resistance, a screw down crown still provides a feeling of security. Mido TV Big Date has a screw down crown for example.
Super cool dials but I think it’s a little un-proportional because it’s all dial, which looks weird on an integrated bracelet watch
Underrated brand in the US but popular in Europe.
Almost 1 million subscribers. 🎉
Not a fan of this style in general, but I always really appreciate the balanced perspective Teddy gives!
This is interesting but I think you could make another video with Certina's new GMTs
I know it costs more but the CW Twelve is still the king of integrated bracelets under 2k. Outstanding value for money, great design, amazing details, great finish overall. It gets a lot of attention on the wrist without being tacky or flashy. I own one and it's really one of my best buy recently.
It is a stunner, I prefer the Certinas looks...
Need to see a review of the new Tsoyosa small seconds….this is nice.
I like the bracelet on this more than my prx & that it's available in titanium too. But I think the dial & how the case transitions into the bracelet is much nicer on the PRX. Plus lets face it, that waffle dial has become iconic! Long story short- It's a good contender & a great choice for many, but I'm happy with my prx.
Love Certina.
Nice watch. Nicer than the Rolex OP to be honest
No doubt a better value than the PRX. It looks better IMHO. The titanium version is a killer!
This is Teddy's 911 video and he's gonna reach 1M in a few days, I think I know what the congratulatory gift is gonna be :)
Sounds cool! I'm glad to hear that Teddy's video is about to hit 1 million views. That's a major milestone to celebrate.
As for the congratulatory gifts
Ok. I want one.
Good shout for anyone with a non-large budget but who wants something cool and authentic on their wrist.
Another possibility would be the Maen. Similar price range with an integrated bracelet.
I really like Certina. I had a Multi 8 and I quite liked it. Sadly I left it at my ex girlfriends house.... wont be getting that back.
Congrats on 1M Teddy!
I'd personally say it comes very close but I'd still give the money to Tissot. The PRX imo was a pure home run and like you said... It sorta pays to come first. Great review as always mate.
Good review. I really like Certina and feel that their watches look and feel a little more premium than equivalent Tissot offerings . . . then again they usually cost slightly more. You hit the nail on the head with the character comment. The DS-7 is a nice watch but to me the design doesn't have the same coherence as the PRX or indeed some of Certina's other offerings . . . I would maybe pick one up at the right price but not a 'must have' like the PRX.
This one wins on the movement. The PRX has a plastic escapement, the Certina does not.
This is actually nice.
Congratulations on your 1M subs!
Wait: so a Powermatic with no plastic components? Am I hearing that right?
👍🏻 Pourriez-vous faire une revue de la Certina DS2. Merci.
Very nice watch and as usual awesome review. I dont see how it competes with PRX as the case design is pretty different. Only similarity is the integrated bracelet but I dont see how it competes anymore than any other watch in the price point. BTW the PRX design style is awesome no matter how fatigued people may be about it..
The problem is the swatch group have really downgraded some of the brands longines for instance should really be a brand up there with Rolex omega and certina should really be a premium diving Watch
So regarding the esthetics, I think the bracelet in the certain is nicer the dial colors I actually like more. But the prx I just think overall, when you look at it ...looks more unique
Congrats on 1M subs!
I love titanium. Light, soft on the skin, very lowkey and not flashy. I prefer lighter watches. I know some people love heavy watches but I'm not one of them.
CONGRATS ON THE 1M SUBCRIBERS
See, I’m a Tissot fan and I just think they are finished slightly better. Very comparable but, as a little example, the date window on the PRX is framed, whereas the Certina is just cut out. It’s the little details…
Good video. Wish you would do one on the DS2
Im glad that the movement inside isnt the garbage that is the prx powermatic 80
Look at the dial, its a Powermatic 80. It's the same one, Nivachron hair spring and all.
1 million subs here we come
I really try to like this one and it for sure is not a bad watch! But... I feel like the bracelet tapers too early and too much, this way the round case somehow doesnt look right to me. Definitely a worthy oponent for the PRX though and I think it just comes down to preference (as almost always)
I like Certina watches but I want not the Powermatic 80 innards but an ETA Precidrive quartz, roughly +-10 seconds a year. But I’m weird.
Got a prx got a tsuyosa can't get my hands on one of these looks pretty nice in the vids.🤷🏽♂️
Why don’t you review Mathey Tissot? Does MT doesn’t good enough to compare with? What’s your opinion?
Teddy can you please start letting us know whether the bracelets are pin, pin & collar or screw adjusted? Thanks!
For me, Certina looks better but it is a personal decision!
I'm sorry, but this looks miles better than the PRX. That awkward flat lip running around the entire case on the PRX has always looked terrible IMO.
So you can now pick between 2 integrated swatch watches
Is it worth it to invest in a "gold" watch? It seems that watch manufacturers increase the cost of the watch way higher than the market value of the metals used. I really think you could do an in depth analysis of this. Add on top of that the diamonds and stones. It seems they take a $1k stone and sell it for 5k when its on a watch.
Waited for that vid for months! Thx! But finally I‘m not buying, I would compare the design more to Christopher Ward Twelve.
Do a pr516 tissot review when you find time
1M subs let’s goooo!
It looks better than the PRX
When are you coming to Australia Teddy?
Teddy can you talk about the Citizen Tsuki-yomi A-T ATOMIC TIMEKEEPING MOON PHASE because its by far my favorite watch under citizen.
Does anybody know if Certina still uses that shock absorber around the movement as part of the “DS” system? I read some places they still use it, and other places they don’t use it anymore .
Completely off topic for this video but I thought I would ask in the newest posted video. Why isn't Seiko astron of interest as far as your channel is concerned. And if they are why haven't you done any videos on them?
Was actually looking at this watch on your site but apparently you don't ship it to Canada?
Would the Canadian website offer Certina watches soon ?
1M subs coming up 👀
prx proportions seems to be better imo
What titanium grade is used in titanium version, grade 2 or grade 5?
I thought Citizen Tsuyosa was the new PRX.
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What about the DS-1 are they any good?
The problem with micro brands is that in recent years its become super saturated. IMHO the watch industry is moving to a point where the premium brands will now become even more 'desirable' and 'luxurious'.
PRX better still
More than the PRX, it looks a lot like the Seiko SUR555
They should release the green dial one with titanium, because the only option currently is that boring looking blue dial.
never understood PRS valuation
Uses a version of the PRX movement. Powermatic 80
Yes, a better one. 25 jewels.
Yes it is. No argument there
Way better than a prx
Tbh I think the dial looks too large. Would be much better with a larger bezel
PRX looks good until you put it on your wrist. It’s too boxy. This and the CWard Twelve are way better.
The bracelet tapering to case size proportions dont work very well, and they should given its 'integrated' as in part of the design.
HERE BEFORE 1 MILLION SUBS
This is much better.
It's a nice watch, but not as nice as the PRX. My personal opinion: the bezel ring is too thick, the crown guard ruins the aesthetics of an all-in-one watch, the color is interesting but doesn't go with this style of watch, and the bracelet doesn't seem to be as good as it could be (maybe it's too thin on top?)
999k!!!
It's a nice watch but not as nice as a PRX. My personal opinion: the bezel ring is too thick, crown guards take away from the aesthetic of integrated watches, colors are fun but don't go well in this style watch and the bracelet seems underwhelming (maybe too thin on top?)