These Fans do EVERYTHING - Phanteks D30 Review
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- The Phanteks D30 review is finally here. Are these the best 120mm fans you can buy right now if you're looking for RGB fans or are there airflow issues due to the design?
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Phanteks D30 Regular Black - geni.us/D30BRegular
Phanteks D30 Regular White - geni.us/D30WRegular
Phanteks D30 Reverse White - geni.us/D30WReverse
Lian Li AL120 V2 White - geni.us/AL120V2WHITE
Lian Li AL120 V2 Black - geni.us/AL120V2Black
Antec Performance 1 FT (Sponsor) - geni.us/PERF1FT
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Where the D30-120 Hits
0:46 - D30 vs Lian Li AL120 V2
1:08 - SO MANY Parts
3:58 - Regular vs Reverse D30
5:21 - INSANE RGB!
6:31 - Sponsor Spot
7:01 - Control Limitations
7:50 - Airflow Sacrifices
8:40 - D30 Regular Sound Samples
9:22 - D30 Reverse Sound Samples
10:15 - Unrestricted Airflow Testing
12:28 - Restricted Airflow Testing (Radiator)
14:29 - AIO Temperatures
15:15 - Air Cooler Temperatures
16:02 - The Ultimate RGB Fans or a Failure?
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Fan review videos like this might not be the most exciting, but I think a lot of PC enthusiasts like me will find it to be quite interesting and very informative. Keep up the good work guys.
downright fascinating... detailed high-quality explanations accompanied with an excellent video representation (A+ work H.C.)
Yup, well spend the money where it counts
Yeah, I like fans
These are probably the only fans i'd buy to replace my Silent Wings PRO 4's, the D30's look amazing. When i bought my current fans, i tried to find reviews for a bunch of different fans i had considered but finding decent reviews was difficult at times. So i really appreciate videos like this as well.
You guys are always a lifesaver with these fan reviews! Helping myself and others save money, keep things quite, and choose the right fans for our use case. It is much appreciated and thank you! Keep up the hard work that goes into these videos. You guys rock!
Wow, excellent job, Phanteks! I'm actually impressed by the thought that has gone into these fans, particularly the reverse model is a beautiful little detail.
They are loud fans
I am still so happy with my trio of thermalright TL-C12C-S from your last video. They are great on my my front mounted radiator. They still look so good on these charts too. I accidently screwed through the wire on one during installation and it frayed it. Just easily bought another without worry. They are so inexpensive and quiet.
You're the king of fans. I love your breakdowns. Might consider one of these for exhaust just for looks.
The NV7 case took my breath away and so the D30s were a must. The overall aesthetics with the case and fans is just stunning and worth the extra noise levels which aren't even that bad since I have 12 fans and the airflow of the case is so good.
soo, how many reverse fans do i buy, ill be buying a phanteks aio as well so im kinda confused as the orientation of them, 12 fans, how many reverse fans do i buy, and what orientation(intake or exhaust)
@@exot1c_dark066 if youre gonna do 12 fans, 8 intake and 4 exhuast would be good, so 8 reverse and 4 regular. or get all regular but 8 of them would be facing the opposite way as the regular fans always push air out the back
Seven 120mm four 140mm for me. The key is to turn down the remaining because no many fans still kick ass
I have always preferred the look of outer leds rather than the ones mounted to the fans themselves, love the halo ring effect. Looks great !
Just got them for a new build can't wait to see them in action , Thanks for more information.
This is worth the money and with their new cases, these new fans will look amazing and should work well. Thanks for the review
love the noise-speed-temp comparisons, charts were easy to read and compare!
Great review guys! Definitely gonna consider this for my future Game Dev Rig upgrade.
I ordered the NV7, and the fans as a bundle. I can agree with pretty much everything said. I had a clip break because I dont feel that the instructions did a super good job of explaining the specific orientations of the end clips with the power cables. I didnt notice the notches. My error but also at the time there wasnt extensive content out or any thorough reviews I could find. This video is great so that people dont break a plastic tab like I did xp... I do love these fans though, but I think to truly take advantage of them, you would need an NV7 case with the built in controller. So until they release dedicated software, if you dont have an NV7, maybe consider other options unless you love the look. Asthetically, they are pretty amazing ^-^ thanks HC for a good review!
But, for example, with the NV5 you can also control the lights, albeit "manually", right?
What about temperatures? I'm thinking of buying this cooling and I don't know whether to go NV5 or NV7. I'm really worried that they don't have dust filter.... :(
The review I've been waiting for!
OMG WOW thank you for taking the time to do a real in-depth dive into these fans..... i would have never know about the reverse ones if you didn't point it out.. i mean I was wondering how they had no fan blade supports b ut now I can make informed decisions on how many to buy for the case in reverse mode thank you much for giving a shit about the teck community
Well done. appreciate the review. Very informative.
luv new fans so good update Mike
Thank you for this awesome review! I was waiting for your review to decide which fans should I use. So, I'll go with the cheap Thermalright TL-C12C-S.
I was in the same boat. TL C12 is looking better day by day
I have 12 D30s in my new NV7 build (6 reg, 6 reverse)...they were amazing to work with. You can't see even an inch of a single fan cable, and I literally was able to just return the fan controller I'd ordered. They're cooling a 13900K on a phanteks 360 AIO, in a case with a 4090. So far with custom fan ramps setup in Fan Control the only thing that has made them audible is when the CPU is working hard on a Steam game install.
General gaming temps for the 13900K CPU are around 50-55C.
but 5 reg 7 reverse is more perfect
Hi, sry, that I ask for help: You installed the D30s? Do I understand you right, that with this fans it is possible under usual conditions to have a noiseless pc? Thx for your efforts! 🙂
@@fussnote1758 yah, it only makes noise if gaming while the room is hot, or when doing something intense like installing software, exporting videos, launching Unreal Engine, etc.
@@EPiQ_cR Thx a lot! 🙂
@@fussnote1758 also, bigger fans are quieter, so if the case fits 140s get those. also more fans lets you set them lower so they make less noise
CONGRATS on ur new bundle of joy bro! Everyone is leaving me and my wife behind maybe it's time to start a family! Love ur content keep it up!
Beautiful review and great quality 😊
Thanks Michael for the in depth video! 🤗I bought the T30 Reverse about 2 weeks ago for a 240 AIO, and watching the beginning of the charts made me worry I made a very very bad purchase.
Thank god the reverse fans seems to have good performance on a radiator and heatsink. I have watched every fan and cooler review from Michael and I will never get bored, great work! 😊
For those who wants more RGB control, I may have some solutions for you.
- I've got a 5v 3 pin ARGB to Corsair 4 pin cable to wire up the T30s to Corsair Commander Core XT. With that, I can control the individual LEDs and even the fan speed via ICUE
- Use the SignalRGB software (Some features are free, while others like fan speed control is a paid feature)
Or give OpenRGB a try and it is opensource.
I have ten of these and I absolutely love them.
What I don’t quite agree with is that LianLi has an advantage with RGB effects. Their software is horrible, like pretty much every manufacturer‘s software. But the ARGB connection of the D30 lets me use SignalRGB or OpenRGB instead, which easily beats every manufacturer software I used so far.
I kinda like lian li's software as opposed to openrgb. I understand its free and open, but ive had nothing but trouble with it one on of my machines. When building the one with my Lian li fans, it just works. Using the hub connected to USB is solid, and the strimers connect as well.
Crazy enough i am able to control the lighting on my Phanteks AOI with it as well since one of their adapters they included plugged right into the lian li hub.
@@EasyMoneySG Got agree, L Connect 2 and 3 work perfectly and are simple and easy
Does the power cord itself daisy chain or is it just a single?
you can use Lian Li fans with Signal RGB too
I have a bunch of these in my nv7 case. I absolutely love them. Best looking fan out there
Fitted these to a couple of NV7 builds, 7 rev pulling in 5 standard pushing out with a 360 aio so the lower airflow on the rev ones is negated and gives positive pressure, great review but I did notice the whine that pitches up in the noise demo sounds like it's oscillating on the desk, mine have no whine just air noise when ramped up, temps are great and never needed full speed but it will depend on case choice etc. None of my fittings broke but if you find any are tight just reposition them and make sure you're not heavy handed, plus plenty of spares in the box.
These will be my next fans for sure!
I have been waiting for a long time
Thanks for the review and thanks for including noise samples this time!
Still, I have some (hopefully constructive) criticism to make your reviews better in the future. Having noise normalized tests is obviously the most important part of reviews to be able to compare different fans, but without any rpm number the dB numbers seem arbitrary. On your P12 Max review you included a table that showed the rpm and the corresponding dBA values which was very helpful in understanding how loud certain dB values are, as they are highly dependent on how noise is measured and noise itself is highly subjective.
On your P12 Max review the lowest rpm tested was 1710rpm, which is already very much at the higher side of the rpm range, and I would like to claim that most people don’t ever run their fans this fast. I would guess that most 120mm fans will be run at speeds up to 1500rpm (unless you use an sfx build where you crammed an unlimited i9 13900K into it and need some way to keep it below 100°C). I personally do run my fans even slower. Having used different 120mm fans so far, my maximum acceptable noise level would be around 1200rpm on an A12x25 and I am pretty sure there are quite a number of water-cooling enthusiasts out there that will run their fans at even lower rpm. Maybe it would be the best idea to do a community poll and ask the community at which speeds they do run their fans and then adjust your test setup to allow possibly way lower rpm to be tested as well. I do know that is a lot of work for retesting every fan, but if you ever decide to rework the way you test fans, please keep this in mind.
My last request would be to include a few sentences about unwanted noises a fan might produce, if present on your samples. Examples for this would be humming, bearing noises and motor noises of which certain fan brands/models suffer more than others and which, in my opinion, should be included in a review to paint the whole picture.
Sorry for this lengthy comment, I am not sure if you will ever read this, but if you do, thanks for reading it!
i was waiting for this for soo long ;-;
Thank you for this video made me finaly pick the lian li al120 v2s after hours of waiting to pull the trigger lol others were the phanteks you are discussing in this video and the lian li infinity fans which are hard to find and expensive if u want the reverse also
next gen for both is going to be amazing
Nice to see a manufacturer that makes fans innovate and try new things. It took them 30 years to surpass the Gentle Typhoon and the only fan that is near the GT in performance, yet still remains relatively quiet AND inexpensive is the Arctic. Thanks for another solidly thorough review!
Quite the opposite. There has been so little innovation since gentle typhoons that essentially every top tier fan is a typhoon replica. The only way to squeeze performance out of the same design now is to make them thicker.
@@sander373 You don't think the D30 is innovative? At last there's a somewhat competent RGB fan now. xD
@@flyinhawaiian9174 in fan design no. In the addition to make seemless and less wire clutter sure. I don't find any added rgb to fans an "innovation". If that's what they call innovation that's when they simply hit a wall on real innovation. Which is why gentle typhoon was the last real innovative fan imo.
@@sander373 Hence why I said it's taken them 30 years to catch up..
Thanks for sharing! It helpede a lot
Super interesting results. I wonder how the reversed fans would had performed when reversed on a radiator (intaking into the rad instead of exhausting just like the regular fans) to see the difference.
Super keen to see how Corsair Link fans perform!
This video was great ... was looking for fans but with computex few week away let's see what is coming out
I went with the phanteks as i liked the look of the covers over the screws and they do look great. i am running 9 of them in my current setup 6 are on rads the other 3 for air movement across the system.
I think Phanteks still need to improve these new D30's. I have the T30's and those things are AWESOME. The T30's move air like a house fan.
Had no idea Noctua fell behind in fan technology! Nice video, thank you. I use Noctua in all my builds. Now I will have to reconsider spending more on the alternatives depending on the build...
Yea they've actually been behind for a while now. The T30's really do demolish them, rightfully so since they're 30mm thick. And they look better on top ;).
to be fair I still Noctua's are still high up their in fan performance technologies. It's just the gimmicks that they lack when in comparison. Still going to stick with Noctua's
These are 30mm thick, Noctuas are 25 mm. I would say that's the biggest "technology" there.
with regard to cooling only*, not the other functionality
If they release a 3000rpm fan with 5mm extra thickness, they'll be up there again.
Great Vid! I wish Thermaltake would explain their stuff so clearly.
I'm not overly concerned about the metrics. I'm all about the eye candy! Thanks for the review!
Amazing content, as usual. Thank you!
once the NV5 releases, my plan is to get that and all D30 fans. my view 71 is showing its age and its HUGE.
These are some really nice looking fans
I have watched your videos and tried the best I can to "envision" my next build. I am not a RGB person either, sometimes I build a PC that does not even have a window.
But I decided to throw back to my childhood and build my next PC very gamer like with RGB and I am torn between the D30's and the AL V2's.
If there was a V2 of the Infinity, that would be an easy win for me, but the V1 fans just do not have enough performance IMO.
Really cant pick, leaning more for the AL V2 for the hub and software but I do like the more pronounced side lighting on the D30.
Also if they do not perform good enough for say a RTX 4090 AIO I'll put a T30 on, and can add the LED cover. In that situation it would more closely match the D30's used for the case fans.
Would the best of both worlds option be AL120 for exhaust and then the reverse D30 for intake, or would the visuals be off?
Having a reverse version would make these the better buy over the AL120 IMO.
Base on looks the d30 just blow me away. The rgb looks amazing even through videos so I have high hopes for the irl look and the general design is way more slick and beautiful then the unifans imo. Which where already quite good looking
I hope these companies pay you well, because the quality of the information you provide is amazing. There's no way I would be forking out this kind of cash of RGB fans if I didn't understand how they worked.
I ended up buying 6 (one of each kind of flow) and will prob get another 3 of the reverse as side intake--the main reason being 2 cables (4-pin pwm and 3-pin argb). Until Corsair gets their crap together to reduce clutter, while improving performance and maintaining their fantastic RGB, I'll use these Phanteks with a PirateDog adapter into an icue box (at least I hope that will work).
Great video. Will you be doing the new Thermaltake ones as well that connect magnetically?
Did the PirateDog adapter into an ice box work for you?
I have the Phanteks D30 fans in my o11 Dynamic Evo. I love them. They're absolutely beautiful. I really don't hear any noise because I have the Deepcool LT720 AIO with the included fans on it, and those fans are loud as all hell. So I can't hear the D30 fans over the deepcool fans. I have the reversed airflow and they're great tbh. I have 6 of the reversed drawing in air so its fine.
You've gotta review silverstone's shark force fans. Im 90% sure they're the highest performance rgb fans, 2500rpm, 100cfm 4.66mm of pressure (confirmed by an independent reviewer too) really curious to see how they do on the noise to performance end. They seem very promising, especially seeing those airflow specs are real.
So for best value argb fans the EK Loop is still the best to get? Im having a hard time getting the Phantek M25... Im gonna go for a aio set up next and been searching for fan upgrades haha. Thank you for this very informative video!
The nice thing for me is that they made 140mm reverse flow versions of these. They look great but i don't know whether to run these or Lian Li SL120s (who don't make 140mm reverse flow versions). In your noise testing I have a slight issue... they weren't held in place in a case which means vibration from being sat on the pad could be a large part of the noise profile making them seem louder than they actually are.
I have the LL SL120 x 9 in a LLo11d case, set allt fans to minimum where 3 of them is on an AIO from ASUS and im happy with them, they are black so dust is seen quit often :( - next build should be white i think with NV7 or 9 i think those D30 would fit really nice in there with custom watercooling.... really good video :)
Will you also do a video on the Thermaltake SWAFANs and how they compare to the Phanteks D30s in performance, noise, etc.?
My newest build is on hold til I return from the road.
I've been bouncing back in forth between the d30 and the swafan ex. Hard decision.
I like the swafan ex ability to disconnect blade to clean and swap to reverse blades. Also the magnetic connection.
The d30 has a better look from the side.
I really like the look of those fans and the daisy chain method but I'm not about to spend more on my case fans than my RAM.
Are these the best looking fans.. wish there was a led light evenness test and led quality side by side test comparison with the infinity.
The colors of fans was from Motherboard or conroller from nv7? Can i take this fans with aio MSI S360? Thanks and good video. I hope you can understand me. From Germany 😅
With the three pack they throw in more than 1 connector. The plastic bits seem to be a set it and forget it type of scenario for me at least. They're great fans
Hoping you can check out the new Lian Li P28s soon!
I got these a week ago without waiting for reviews as the reverse blade is clean on a side intake aio, I was really happy with the performance and the low noise level…. Until I watched your video.
I was throughly disappointed for the first half, then was relieved after especially seeing the reverse performance on the aio. Phew
How are they holding up? 4 of ours came from retail and they were all perfectly good but there are a few reports of a bad batch that was DOA.
Would love to see you review the new 30mm frame APNX FP2's! :D
I am thinking of going for Grey and White design for my next PC upgrade.
Currently I am running 4090 TUF and Carbon grey cablemod. I think they will look great in a white case that might have some grey in it and a motherboard with grey and white color scheme. Maybe i should look up these fans.
T30 ...
U're right D30 are astonishing, the most beautiful ones but... these results proved that not only Lian Li but even Phanteks m25 are better (among the others). Curious about Cooler Master Mobius now😅
Got these in an NV7 very expensive (when you need 12!) but they are pretty awesome
Any reason you left the 2nd highest performing fan on noise normalized restricted airflow off the AIO test?
they look sooo good
I just ordered two sets one reverse for my In Win 101C case to clean up the wiring and have a better look on the bottom instead of seeing the back side of the fans I already have in it and for my aoi radiator on the side.
Please review the Lian-Li TL120 fans!
I just want either of them in 140mm size as I am using a 420mm radiator.
Does the power cord itself daisy chain? I’m gonna run a couple push pulls so I’ll need to connect the cords themself
The problem with the AL-120 is the AL-140. It took Lian Li over a year to finally release the 140mm version of the same fan. And when they finally did release the AL-140, the LED's didn't match. You can't get the colors to match on two Lian Li fans from the same product line in different sizes. It's a real shame that project was so poorly managed.
why is this noise normalized at 36 dba but your prior silent wings test was at 39dba, and the temps are higher at 39 dba on that test than this 36 dba test
You can't find the Black D30's in single packs in the UK at the moment, only triples, someone must be buying them.
Do they mount onto other AIOs like a normal fan or are you forced to use their AIO also?
I'd pay it, I love Phanteks quality
You could attach these to an Aquacomputer Farbwerk 360 for more robust RGB effects through Aquasuite (actually good software). Corsair's hubs are also an option... but iCUE sucks.
what is better than icue? :)
How is the Phanteks Glacier One 360T30 Gen 2 D-RGB AIO when it comes to cooling a Ryzen 9 7950X?
Years ago I had an Antec P190 😂
I’ve gotten too used to Lian Li style dual chamber so radiator in the side with push pull, 3 at the bottom for intake, 1 at the rear and 3 in the roof all exhaust and I can’t see myself going for anything different now 🤷🏻♂️
Relying on motherboard control is not a bad thing when OpenRGB exists.
It's nice, lightweight, open source software that is compatible with a plethora of RGB devices
can I connect 4 D30 fans instead of 3 on the side in the Phanteks NV7 case?
but what about the D30 140mm fan.?
*6:24** - SUPER !!! Fantastic !!!!*
Are you going to test the Thermaltake SWA fans? They have reverse blades in the package.
Yes.
You can use SignalRBG to control all forms of RGB devices including these D30s
I personally went with the infinity unifans from Lian li. I was debating between those and these phanteks ones.
Ya this was what made me hold off on buying lian li fan because I saw the preview for this. So waiting on a direct comparison.
Noise is good?
if lian li can provide a reverse version of their fans would go for it no questions asked but sadly they dont
The first fan lights up and everything but not nr 2 or 3. 2 and 3 still spin tho... What did i do wrong? there's only one bringe per fan that connect both rgb and power right?
I bought a bunch of Thermalright C12's (forward and reverse versions) because I'm a cheap bastard, glad to see they're still a sensible choice :D
Why put links if they don't link to the product? These would be amazing in the all white build I have planned. But it's phanteks seems it's not available in Canada or just not feasible to sell here.
They link to the product in many regions
@@HardwareCanucks damn that's cold lol they don't wanna send stuff up here
Ordered the fans, because its a nightmare with the NV7 case when you have regular fans
I was scared for a minute... until i saw the radiator noise normalized tests since thats the most important thing for me
Why aren't Lian Li Uni Fan SL120 included in these tests?
36db is so loud why do you normalize for 36 instead of like 30 or 25 which are way more acceptable(while still not actually quiet)?
please do a test on the 140mm..
That missing in these charts is a db per RPM. I like to run my T30s at 800. I can't hear them at all and they move a good amount of air. So how does that compare to the D30s, or anyone else?
As a case fan, it's not great, but it seems on par for radiator use.
I'm probably going to get myself Some Phanteks, I've gone through a set of lian li's cheaper ST 120 fans and had 4 die on me within a year, now with the al 120s i have god awful uniformity on the Centre rgb of the fans while also having the rgb die entirely on one of the fans. I contacted lian li saying all 9 fans are having uniformity issues and they sent me 2 replacements while saying the other 7 are good enough and are not worth replacing despite all of them having 2+ LEDs showing a completely different color than what's intended leaving me with a bad looking gradient i can't fix. I've been using Lian Li for years and have probably spent $2,000-$3,000 on Lian Li's products alone (O11 Razer, O11 White and grey, O11 mini white and grey, O11 Mini Snow White, Lian li Galahad 360 X2, ST 120 X18, SL 120 v1 X9, AL 120 V1 X9) Lian Li used to be good but in the last 2ish years their quality control has slipped BIG TIME. Also them refusing to replace obviously poor quality products is appalling.
As long as it performs as good or better as the T30
i went with the d30s for my next build since i also bought the NV7 case from phanteks as well, getting away from corsair fans and all their cables
Hi james
Was going to go for your exact build you have i.e Nv7 case and these fans ( was waiting for this review 😀)
How does your build look and perform? 😊
@Centurion haven't turned it on yet lol, looking pretty good so far in all white. Waiting on a few more cables to come in before I pull psu and m.2s out of current pc
make sure your cables are long enough to reach the GPU, just finished my custom liquid cooling build using both NV7 and D30 couple weeks ago, loved the end result with clean cable management.
@magtral went to micro center last weekend to buy a white 4080, got some cable mod extensions since the original cable I ordered was for a different vase and gpu lol
@@AnotherLazybum That GPU cable length are the only minor problem i found with NV7, hope you enjoy your build. Have a nice day.
Can you put the new LiLan Li P28 in the comparison since it’s the newest high performance with RGB from LiLan Li
how are the lian li infinity fans for airflow and pressure?
I thought, FINALLY somebody made a reverse fan for those of us who hate looking at those brackets. But now I see why companies avoided doing it. I didn't think it would be that difficult to put the brackets on the opposite side.