Tesla vs CCS In The Race To Vegas! 5 Electric Cars Push The Charging Networks To The Max - Pt. 2
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2022
- We're back for part 2 of the Race To Vegas! This is a challenge to find out if the Tesla Supercharger Network is faster than the public CCS networks, primarily Electrify America. Find out who wins between the Hyundai IONIQ 5, Porsche Taycan, Tesla Model 3, Ford Mustang Mach-E, and Tesla Model X.
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The experience of plugging into the Electrify America stalls is like playing the slot machines at Vegas...
I really didn't want to get a Tesla, but ultimately the supercharger network was one of the main reasons I did.
It’s really a shame. I honestly thought manufacturers would take the charging network more seriously by now. Tesla clearly still leads the way in such a critical aspect of ev usage.
@@PumpUptheJam81
What's sad is the CCS consortium has been discussing (and I assume refining the protocol for) ISO 15118 (CCS3?.... Plug and charge) since 2010, that'll (probably) be about the same time Tesla started on the Superchargers. The "Start-up" devised a system, built the prototypes and built an impressive network within 8 years.
Just bought my first full electric and can confirm that functionality is hit or miss.
Electrify America by VW
Kyle: We're going to arrive with 2%. Perfect!
Brandon & James: We're going to arrive with 7%. It's gonna be tight!
Those ioniq guys looked like they were driving in a sauna.
@37:40 confimed at @52:15
arriving with nothing left is the way to go, get them big watt charging speeds!
Tesla's (mine at least) doesn't charge too fast below about 8%. The Porsche does. So the tactic is slightly different.
@Jonathan Loeppky Battery cells have a minimum voltage, below which they can be permanently damaged. When an electric car is at an indicated 0% charge, the cells are all still above that minimum threshold. Damage is only done if you drive till 0% and then leave it unparked for a long time (days at least but it varies) without plugging it back in, such that it drains to below the minimum voltage level. Leaving an EV parked and plugged in at 1%, 0%, 20%, 10%, is all fine. In fact those low states of charge is where degradation happens the slowest. Manufacturers advise against going below 20% only to avoid accidental bricking of battery packs should you do something unusual like drive down to 5% then leave on vacation for 3 months without plugging the car in, and ruining it.
The strength of the charging network and the facilities around them is what will make the difference to any road trip in a EV.
much has to be improved, saturation is one thing but the efficiency and usability have some way to go.
These chargers are way easier to build and place than gas stations and will quickly overwhelm the number of gas up spots available.
Our family owns 4 EV’s, one of which is a Tesla and is, by far, the easiest to charge.
@@Merakis100 still, it takes time, we will just have to be patient. I can foresee gas stations will slowly replace these gas refuel kiosks into electric charger kiosks.
@@Merakis100 WRONG!!!!! Tesla litetraly had BUNCH of problems and in some towns,counties,states WERE LITTERALY BANNED/RESTRICTED TO EVEN BUILD SUPPERCHARGERS!!!!!!!
Tere were litteraly places where Tesla litetraly had to wait for hal;f ayear to several years JUTS TO INSTAL 1 SUPPERCHARGER.
Then there were places/owners who demanded big unreasonable rates/cuts from charging station instalment.There is a BUNHC of reasosnt that HURTS EV supercharging networs epsecialy Tesla supercharging network from legislators to politicians to stuborn people demanding extremely higher cust/tips/money for instalmet of supercharger on their property.
The reason why SOME of the chargers aare much quicker nad faster to insatl is due to being GOVERMENTAL body that does it or BEING UNDER GOVERMENTAL HAND so to say.
Hey, EA. Make your 350s stand out from the rest of the cabinets. You should be able to differentiate them upon first pulling into the facility.
We should start an EV owner groundswell and get large conspicuous stickers to do ourselves
EA should charge more per kWh for the 350 cabinets
To make it easier for a slow charging EV to find it and take it up, thinking it will charge faster?
it does seem they are numbered left to right, so if you look at the app before you arrive you'll know which #2 are 350.
Cars slower than 152 kW should pay a penalty if they take up a 350 station if a 150 is available.
9:19 Kyle: We have to find a faster charger, because the last one only went to 259 kW... 🤣
Very mem er of this Race would have been perfectly Fine. Not Kyle. He is the King of EV Road Trips . Perhaps only Björn (from Norway) could match him. This would be a true Race.
@@cordkretzschmar5693 I want to see this race. Come on Bjorn!
Seems like Kyle doesent care about Battery life.There is alot of reasons why Chargers and software in Tesla are designed/made that way bcs they are more of a proach of battery longevity in mind/oriented (constidering battery packs being expensive as hell to change/replace) while it seems otehr companies arent so much keen on that aproach.
@@goranstojanov1160 That is what a sore loser would say. Everything better than Tesla must be bad for batteries, for sure...and only their 4680 has low resistance for fast charging, nobody else.
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The most important point is that none of the cars ran out of battery. Range Anxiety isn’t a thing anymore. This video really demonstrates that.
Well. I think the anxiety comes from the persistent planing and actions that ENSURE that the cars don't run out of charge. The anxiety is in the background.
I have a Kia EV6 and as far as I know I can't see the battery temp anywhere.
@@toiletpaper4 18 and paycheck to paycheck is the type of person that CANNOT afford an EV.
@@suserman7775 I have to use a phone app to see battery temperature off an OBD2 adapter. We REALLY need a battery temp gauge. It would be super useful.
I am super surprised given how hard some of them pushed the range.
love that the mach e group gets caught up chatting with other drivers. people sharing the passion for evs and talking about their cars/seeing others ev choices and options is always fun
Love hearing this, Jack! That's part of what we love about EV road trips is meeting other EV owners at charging stations along the way! 💙
@@Livshaka you guys were awesome!
@@brich2929 aww thanks brich!! 💙⚡
They weren't going for the win from the get go. They went for confort. Think Mach-E could've done okay or better had they pushed range, etc. Same for MOdel X.
Yeah, in my country EVs are a common thing now and charging is basically flawless. I kinda miss the days when EVs were exciting and chargers were few and far between. You know, the kind of adventures you get now. And the chats with strangers who were curious and often puzzled by EVs or geeking out with other EV owners at the charger. Good times, enjoy them!
I’ve been watching this channel so much I’m fully invested in everyone who appears on it😂 I’ve been waiting for this episode of their cannonball run
The keys to a successful transition to EV's for everyone - beyond the price of the car: 1) Frequency of charging stations, 2) Charging speed, 3) Ease of use, and 4) Charging quality - meaning that it should be easy to connect to the charging station and that it should work properly. That last point seems to be an issue more often than it should be.
Oddly, most of the charging issues were due to 'Plug & Charge', vs just using the app.
I wonder how many people actually need any of those. If there is an EV with none of those, but less than $10k, I would get that and just rent an ICE for the few times I need to go on a trip, which is almost never.
This series was excellent!
There is just 1 thing missing which is how much did each vehicle have to pay for charging? It would be great to see how much it cost for each vehicles.
The Ioniq 5 comes with 2 years of free Electrify America charging... so prob nothing for them.
Without looking at the final side by side data, my first impression overall is that a 1.5 hour gap between Kyle, the fanatical optimizer, in a high priced Porsche, and the last place Model 3 with a pregnant woman, a dog, and some pretty a-typical charging experiences, means that I would probably choose whichever EV I buy based on other factors than range and charging speeds. The difference, net net, is marginal. Great videos, I look forward to the data review!
yeah the Taycan might be the best performer machine but all of them seemed like good commuters, I would've loved if they could've appointed some old Model S in the fleet for comparison
I also got the feeling that the ioniq 5 guys turned off all climate control. Why were they so sweaty.
I’m like 99% sure the model 3 wasn’t last lol. If you watch the end of the video you can see the model 3 come in and then the Mach-e finishes like 30ish minutes after them
nice thing about tesla chargers for me is no need to use an app, just stuff the cable in. has always worked so far! apps can eat a dick.
Yeah, but if you can afford it, most people would take the Taycan over the other cars because it's really superior in every way except cargo space... I've test-driven lots of different BEVs in the last 2-3 years, and nothing comes close to the Taycan in terms of fun and enjoyment behind the wheel...
I love these road trip races. More videos like this 👍🏽
More to come!
@@OutofSpecMotoring Now do cannonball with everyone.
I think it should be called Cannon ball charge, no t more than 5mph over speed limit from NY to CA
Try an ev6 next time
I can’t remember when I last waited so impatiently for a video to come out! Huge thanks to you all, that is a serious amount of driving and no way I could do that. Huge thanks to the editor as well! Next time I want to see Kyle in the slowest charging car :)
A Bolt?
I was dying for it to come out hehe
And use the heating/air. They need to pack a lunch. I felt sorry for her to have to eat something she didn't like
@@rosmarin2438 I was hoping for a Bolt as well.
This is one of the coolest videos on this channel. I absolutely love everyone's EV motivations and I've been wanting to get one now solely because of all the great work Kyle and Out of Spec have done highlighting cars and charging infrastructure. It needs work but what these videos prove is that it is possible. Thank you Kyle and everyone in this video!
Except in this case, what should happen is either everyone is "educated" regarding the "expert tips" (example, don't select a charger as a destination, to avoid premature preheat) or, drive as an "EV Newbie" would, to highlight deficiencies and give information to the providers to improve the system.
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85% of users won't be familiar, or necessarily care about changing from range mode to performance to "game" the battery temp.... Defeats the object of the exercise?
The laughter and camaraderie throughout the trip was infectious! Very enjoyable to watch your friendly competition. I especially liked the differing styles of driver risk taking with how low to arrive at each charger.
This must have been a mammoth editing job with all the sources all the footage. Thank you!
I loved this series! It does show how experience in EV charging can make a difference. The Model X team was terrible at optimizing their charging sessions. The Ioniq and Mustang team also overcharged several times. I expected Taycan, X, 3, Ioniq, Mach-E.
I expected the Ioniq to be right with the Taycan, honestly. As Kyle mentioned they screwed themselves on the first charge. If Kyle was driving the Ioniq, it would have won over the Taycan.
@@AK2CO Once the Ioniq gets preconditioning, it's pretty much game over as long as the chargers are functioning...
The X (and 3) drivers had no idea what they were doing (vs Kyle who knew everything). The Tesla Map shows the charging speed for all stations -- not utilized even once during the trip. Little or no reason to stop at 150KW stations. Also, to match Kyle's planning -- the X / 3 should have hand-picked each station instead of just going when the car suggested. Kyle would have won in the X, 3, Ionic or Tycan (maybe even the Mach E). Video highlighted a few to me: 1) driver matters; 2) non-Tesla charging stations are still difficult (bad screens, connection problem, slow to start, sometimes broken, have to worry about them being in use b/c there's only a few at each stop). 3) All cars did well on this route and capable of a road trip... and this will get better as more chargers roll out. I just hope all chargers get to the point where they're as easy as Tesla superchargers (plug-in... no screen to read, no buttons to push, no phone / app, etc.).
@@KenPaulsen13 I guess... this is a good representation of 'needing to know what you're doing' to roadtrip an EV optimally - even if you're driving a Tesla. Compared to an ICE vehicle where you don't need to know or do anything beforehand.
The nice thing about a gas vehicle is you just fill it to full and not have to sit there and do the math of how far to next charging station to how much range you need. That trip I maybe would have had to stop twice for gas but may have just been once. Never done that route so not sure how the climbs would affect my range. I will stick with gas engine for trips like this.
This has got to be one of the best pair of videos Out of Spec has produced (well done, Alyssa!). The range of seriousness was crazy with the Taycan and Ioniq 5 being super intense contrasted with the easy going Mach-E folks socializing and getting more charge than necessary.
Ikr 😆🥰😎
Loved this!!! I was waiting all week for part 2. More races please 😬.
The headache of the public CCS chargers is painful to watch. Having done long road trips in both Tesla & CCS cars, the ease of simply plugging in and walking away is worthwhile.
... and essential for widespread BEV adoption... automakers need to grasp this fact NOW (they can't rely on unaffiliated charging companies alone; they need to be intimately involved in charging stations)...
Nice, been waiting for this all week
Cannot believe I just watched a 1 hr UA-cam video and the interesting part is that I want to watch it again!!!!
I always watch longer videos at 1.25x speed...makes it look like they're driving too fast though lol
i like how everyone seems chill yet brandon and james are like goo goo goo
there should be a race back now that every one know there mistakes and really get full range of the car
I'd love to see this with even more of the EVs and more realistic conditions like having A/C on etc. My big takeaway was that road tripping is perfectly viable with any of the cars and for those of us with younger kids the charging breaks are actually a good thing.
It is. And the cheaper cars road trip great too like the Ioniq 5, model 3, ev6, and even Niro and Kona. Older cars are slower at charging like the Leaf and Bolt. But spending $22000 on a cheap bolt is a great deal if you don't mind a cheap car.
Absolutely. If you have kids, charging speeds are not a concern at all. Up until the beginning of the pandemic, we were road tripping from the Bay Area to Disneyland about 6 times a year since getting our early 2013 Model S. It charges at 90kW max and we never had to wait for the car to charge. And there were far fewer chargers a decade ago. Sometimes our stops would be 1.5 to 2 hours long because the baby was fussy and refused to get back into the car seat. Sometimes, we would have to pull over to the side of the road for an hour because a kid threw up and another was hungry. Charging the car added zero time to the trip.
@@ken830 Glad to hear you're still rocking a classic Tesla. I still love my 2015 Model S and have no plans to sell it!
@@ken830 that describes exactly why I don’t ever want kids
Thus is very fascinating information folks on this awesome road trip you folks have done with the data collected on these cars and great feed back on charging and speed. Great work folks.
Wonderful race and very nice two video's! Enjoyed them a lot. Thank you for publishing those and not cut them short. Great fun!
This has been a blast to watch - thank you so much for the ride! Awesome way to real-world-test cars like this :) A wrap up shot from around the dinner table would have been helpful - all the cars' problems with charging, what could have been better etc.
Would be interesting to see this become an annual thing, as car makers release new vehicles/improvements. As well as Tesla has greatly improved their trip planning algorithms/preconditioning efficiency.
Yes do the out of spec rest stops that are way out but in needed locations with both superchargers and ccs options for all 🙌🏼
These are great videos. Love the channel. Love this style of comparison. It mimics my real use way better than speed races. Thank you all for do this.
Great trip and very entertaining. Been waiting for this after watching part 1. Keep the content coming Kyle and team 👍
Been waiting for this all week! Great content!!!
Loved the series! Great job to everyone, great attitudes all around. Great job everybody!
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Been waiting for part two! I enjoy and respect all the work and knowledge Out Of Spec does and shares.
Great Race, Guys we just did most of that route this spring so I knew all the towns that you went thru and stopped at, Someone needed to drive a Lucid Dream Air to give Kyle a run for his money in the Taycan.
Oh my, I've been looking every day for 7 days waiting for this video!
FWIW, Kyle, that Green River coffee shop looked like a really cool location. Plenty of parking, easy access, lots of potential.
Yeah he should totally consider buying that.
It’s a blank canvas for something unique. An EV road-trip destination. I might just build a hotel next to it. With J1772 for every room.
As much as this is a “race,” these videos show it’s about enjoying life… and that’s fully possible in an EV!
Definitely
If you are not in a hurry the road trip is better.
Yea, it looked like the Mach E occupants had the best time, even though they came in last, Fast thru life isn't always best.
I totally agree. And with more and more charging locations they have more and more options that can match any style. So like to drive as far as possible then do a stop, others like me like more frequent but shorter stops. My normal trips I like to stop about every 150-200 miles for about 15 minutes.
@@techyjames1945 Back when I had my first EV - Nissan Leaf 24kWh - I did a few longer trips that inevitably required quite a few charging stops. This seemed tedious on one hand with such a short-range car (100-140km) but I found that at the destination, I felt a lot more rested and my body wasn't as stiff had I gone in single leg.
Say what you will but we should embrace stopping, taking a short walk much more often and stop focusing on the destination so much.
Really REALLY interesting!!! For a geek like me, this was really thrilling from the start to the end!!!
That was very enjoyable to watch. Congrats to all. Zach and Jordan finish was a surprise
Damn, poor Alyssa. Kyle didn't let her get her coffee at the first stop, then made her get Arby's which she doesn't like at the second. Hope she got something good once they got to the house.
Seems like that kind of relationship where the guy does whatever he wants and the girl is secretly sick of him and annoyed
Well these days their relationship is purely professional, they broke up. Perhaps unsurprisingly given what you note here.
Been waiting on this! Can’t wait to see the finish
A race designed by Kyle to be won by Kyle. Route well known to him, with 350KW CCS chargers all along and only one 250 KW for Teslas to use. Also some inexperienced drivers in most of the other vehicles. Final result not that surprising!
Yeah sadly I have to agree. This race was still really exciting but there were lots of factors imo that slowed the other cars down, especially the Tesla’s. The 3 had a swap and both the x and the 3 hit really slow charging almost the whole route.
@@Jaxamuss I’ve driven up and down CA and have hit numerous slow superchargers. OR, a long wait as they can get pretty busy.
Explain away all you want, it is not a coincidence that the 2 winners are the cars with 800 volt architecture. The fact is that Tesla has an outdated architecture that hurts them on charge speed. I am sure we will see Tesla switch over soon.
@@vmanrn2906 Actualy ist NOT OUTDATED!!! ITS DUE TO 1)SUPERCHARGERS 2) IST BCS TESLAS ARE MADE BY DESIGN TO SAVE BATTERY LIFE!!!!!!!! SINCE ITS INCEPTIO THE SOFTWARE THAT IS BASCISALY ATATCHED TO ABTTERIES/CONNECTED TO IS AMDE TO THINK ABOUT BATTERY LONGEVETY!!!!!!!!
TAHST TEH REASON WHY THERE ARE LIMITERS!!!!
TESLA IS MAKING CHARGERS AND DOING INCRIMENTAL UPDATES WITH THE MIND OF BATTERY LONGEVITY IN MIND WHILE OTEHRS DONT FOLLOW THAT PRACTICE.
@@goranstojanov1160 It is clearly outdated and it has nothing to do with battery life. All EV companies have software that trottles the charging speed. Of course some are more agressive than others, but Tesla is actually being more agressive with their batteries than the competition.
Kyle, Love your road trips with Alyssa and your friends- learn a lot and helps me narrow down my EV choices - you also have a lot of natural comedic dialogue between you and Alyssa! Looking forward to the next one. Stay safe.
Someone that gets it.
Wearing
Really good idea and enjoyed the videos. I think Kyle would’ve won with the Ioniq and maybe even the model x. I thought there were a few questionable decisions by the other drivers. The driver won the race not the car…..
well the road/rout was planned by Kyle and was planned to be won by Kyle.Atleast i commend him for admitting to it stating that Tesla chargers on that rout arent all V3 charegrs (and even if it was Tesla V3 chargers and still its software is designed for battery longevity so even if there was 500kw charger the Software itself would limit the charging speed due to being designed to maintain longevity of th battery lifespam)
The best channel for real world testing and information! Good stuff guys keep it up!
This is quite possibly your best video yet! I love a good race. Bjorn would be proud 👌
If you buy the coffee shop, have some swag. There will be pilgrimages. Maybe a helpful sign with fast trip/charging tips. Name all the drinks after EV culture. Electrek Espresso, Fully Charged Frappe, DCappuccino, Kyle's Strawberry Infusion, EV Energy Drinks, Battery Boba Tea, Charged-Up Chai, Kw Latte, "You did it, Mary" Macchiato, AC/DC Decaf.
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EV1 getoverit biscotti
@@rp9674 Coal Rolled Cold Brew
Interestingly for us in the UK and the rest of Europe our Tesla models have to use the CCS port as standard (for all manufacturers now). So we get the best of both worlds - Tesla superchargers or the option to use any public CCS.
What is the max charge rate you get with ccs? Thx
@@suresh_elonbro around 180kW, ccs at non tesla chargers is limited to 500A.
At the Supercharger you can get 250kw. At an Ionity charger which is Europe‘s Electrify America you can get 180-190 max with a Tesla and also at other Fast Charging Stations. The ionity Stations also have 350kw max but this is only achievable with an 800v based car like the Taycan.
Same story with Australia. We get the euro spec Tesla with CCS.
Love the horse and buggy music at the chargers-mostly at EA. So true to my experience. Great video!
Great review! Coffee and cooking dinner while waiting it - love it!
Next test it would be interesting to use only proprietary route planning apps.
This has been an entertaining couple of videos. I do hope that in the upcoming summary video you will give the efficiency numbers and the cost for each vehicle to make the drive. Many of the people that are switching from ICE to EVs are driven to do so in response to the high cost of gasoline and these figures are just as important to them as how fast can they get from point A to point B.
Kyle-
This was so much fun to watch! As you say, it does prove that efficiency matters, BUT charging speed matters more, whether Tesla or CCS! Thanks to the whole crew for doing this!
Who knew a charging race would be so much fun to watch! Great job guys
I noticed Zach mentioned (@37:43) that Kyle probably wouldn’t charge his phone…
Then @52:15 the Porsche screen said his phone battery was low.
Zach was correct, in knowing what Kyle would do. It was interesting to me to see proof of that random tiny detail.
Also true about being conservative with the climate controls in the car.
If Kyle used the climate control like he would in day-to-day life, I wonder how much that would’ve impacted the range.
It is a grain of sand on a beach. I think Kyle knowledgeable enough to figure that out
Kyle also seemed annoyed with Alyssa in part 1, when she bought a whole case of water saying that could lower the efficiency of the Taycan, never mind that Alyssa is probably lighter than all of the other drivers/riders in the race...
Ioniq has been charging very defensively, like when needing 55% going up to 70%. Which is basically what they're talking about around 38:00. I think it could've done much better with a little more aggressive strategy. But considering its basically half the price of Porsche and Model X it's very impressive.
also that's more comparable to what regular people would do
Well yeah the real comparison would be the model Y LR which it’s much more similar in price to. Honestly the Model Y would do even better than the Model X here with better efficiency and same charging rates. You definitely start to get diminishing returns on EVs once you get over 60-65k IMO
@@philorgneopolotin8762 Nope. The new X gets similar efficiency to the Y and the X has a larger battery.
I'm guessing most EV drivers keep SOC between 20%-80%, not 5%-55% like Kyle did in this race. Taycan's charging peaks at 250kw between 5%-25% (vs Ioniq 5's 235kw 10%-45%) It's also fairly apparent that Kyle has driven in this particular route and was familiar with charging situation at various charging stations while others weren't. I feel that this race was somewhat pointless in that it tested Kyle's knowledge of this particular route and Taycan, not the charging speed/battery range of all EV's in the race.
@@tooltalk Taycan can still charge at 269 kW at 46 %.
That was actually pretty enjoyable watch .. did not even fast forward through any of it. Good editing .. made you feel like you were in the race 👍
Same. At first I planned on watching this over a couple of days but wound up just watching both parts right behind each other.
Enjoyed your race to Las Vegas very much, thanks. Well crafted, good editing, good shooting.
Great interview of the coffee shop
owner Liv 21:21
Thanks Mr. Novak! She's so sweet and she's made such a lovely establishment!
Considering the price differences Ionic 5 did a tremendous job keeping up not only with Teslas but also with the Porsche.
Great fun! Drove an M3LR from MN to CA in Feb. Tesla SC makes cross-country travel possible and worry
-free. Strategically located and well maintained. Did the same trip last year in an ICE vehicle. Compared to ICE the the M3LR added ~1 hr to daily drive time. I’m old so only do 500-600 miles/day.
enjoyed both videos and will wait for the debriefing for those sweet numbers of the Taycan vs Ioniq 5
Yes, you should have an Out of Spec coffee coffee shop. It will be a phenomenal place to "recharge"!
This is so good it should be a Netflix series.
This was nice. It reminds me of my family’s road-trips together with all my extended family.
This was an excellent video to watch! If you decide to do another one, I would definitely want to see Kyle paired with the underdog car knowing that he is going to spend the most amount of effort optimizing his route.
I am amazed the Teslas weren't the first to arrive. They have such a good, robust network that I assumed they would just make it faster.
Really cool to see that the infrastructure is around for any EV to make a trip in a similar amount of time!
You could put Kyle in a ten-year old Nissan Leaf and he'd still win. His willingness to push to the very limit of battery capacity is awe-inspiring.
Wooo! Been waiting for this 😎
That was fun, and it makes me happy that we bought an EV6 GT. Great job of filming, and putting it all together. Thanks
at about 49:50 mark he says they are going from there to the house with just enough juice, but they should've made a rule stating they have to arrive at the house with at least a certain amount of range or percentage of charge left--like 50 miles range or more.
The Ioniq really surprised and showed how experience with EVs is as good as a good EV in a trip race.
I think Kyle needs to be handicapped and drive an underdog with all his tricks vs. everyone else following their native charging route the car has.
Next time maybe Kyle should do this race in a Subaru solterra or Toyota bz4x….
@@Wasabi9111 That’s just silly.
The Taycan and Mach E groups should switch on the way back to show how much closer they would be with a driver who knows all the tricks.
@@Cornelius87 yes!
@@Wasabi9111 they'd still be on the road. lol
Best beard growing contest ever!
Kudos Kyle for the win.
Thanks everyone else for your good spirit.
Brian
Great videos. Very entertaining.
I was shocked, Kyle in a Taycan won. Who would have thought??? 🤣
Loved every minute, wish I lived in Colorado to participate in such shenanigans.
Great video! I think the Tesla drivers could have been a bit better with their stops and saved a good amount of time. Just did a trip from Idaho to Indiana and I never plugged in unless I was below 5% - made each stop very quick! I was getting 149/150kw and 235/250kw at level 2 and 3 chargers respectively.
Very fun. I hope you do more. As someone new to EVs I actually learned things as well
I just love the music for the not so smooth charges. Great video.
Was looking forward to part two and was not disappointed. Thank you. Way to go Ioniq 5 team!
Idea for the next race. Maxe range Lucid Air v Tesla Model S v Merc EQS
That would interesting
The view's on your road trip are brilliant, great viewing 👍 👏
8:34 imagine touching your door. Honestly the best part of owning a model X lol
This was such a fun trip to follow! Love this concept! Only car I wish would have been represented was the Polestar 2, however at 150kW max, the Mach-E represented the issue with that pretty well.
Mach E charges at decent speeds up until the point that it doesn’t and jumps down to L2 speeds.
While the PS2 has a more linear charge curve that starts falling off in the low 40’s and takes a nosedive at 80 and 90%. It really would have had to be a FWD with heat pump to have a fighting chance.
I wonder how the EV6 would have placed, being slightly more efficient at highway speeds vs. the Ioniq 5, but with the same charging capability.
Ioniq 5 now also comes with the larger ~77 kWh as the EV6 so it's not a massive difference now compared to the "old" ~72kWh Ioniq.
@@_TrueDesire_ U.S. spec has always been 77 kWh.
@@psnbrry we got the short stick 😂
Awesome series! Keep it up team!
Love this type of comparison series. I expected longest range car would win the race but in fact it was the charging speed and the range combination.
Loved this video can’t wait for the final wrap up. One thing is for sure the charging network needs plenty of work. With such poor reliability on the EA chargers it’s a wonder you guys even finished. Common throughout both videos “Please charge” Please connect” ohh only 1 350 charger. What no V3 supercharger “ car won’t sync” this one working this one’s not. App says it works but it’s not. Use the app over the station on and on all of that makes me happy I ordered the Model X. Ionic 5 would be an Awesome second choice but I prefer the 6 seater is amazing how many times we’ve gone out with a group of friends really nice to go in 1 car
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Even when Electrify America stations work, they take way too much time "Initializing". Pretty frustrating product.
Awesome video!! Surprising results. You should do this every year with new cars. It will be interesting to see how as they sell more ev’s how crowded these stalls are going to get.
Need more of these cross country road trips/ races
With the speed rules, Kyle in the Ionic5 would have had the record time!
I'm from Charlotte area and have limited AWD IOniq 5. If you guys have any of such road trips (in and around Charlotte till tail of dragon or whatever), please let me know.
In fact I drove from NY to Charlotte when I picked up my vehicle. 760 miles
It was very enjoyable to watch from begging to the end 👍👍👍
Excellent reporting. A real time test of current charging infrastructure. Keep telling the truth!
Buy the coffee shop. Create your own drink.
haha he could call it the Pink River
@@Livshaka I want to buy that coffee shop and just hang out all day with EV drivers.
@@loriallen67 that would be so fun. And have EV themed drinks and food ⚡😃
@@Livshaka oooooh. High voltage black coffee, thermal management iced coffee, pack preconditioning espresso shots, EVSE iced tea…….
Are both the Tesla's wrapped ? It's great to see Tesla's that are not all the same !
Yup, somehow Tesla still only offers 5 colors.
Soooo glad I’m subscribed !
Love to see more from this channel. Great videos