What's the Deal with Nash Guitars? | Nash Guitars S63 Stratocaster Sonic Blue
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Would you buy a Nash guitar?
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Yes! I LOVE Nash guitars.
Absolutely! I've owned many Strats over the last 3 decades - 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s Fenders mostly...but the best so far has been my 2008 Nash S-57
The wayfarer looks a bit like an Epiphone Wilshire. I find the Nash sounds sounds pretty good with country and jazz rock styles .
Yes he makes them better then fender. He used to build 100% fender replicas on ebay. He got way to big too fast. Fender gave him a s/d order on using the fender logo.
Posted in another reply. Two of my four main stage guitars (Tele style, Strat style, R8 Les Paul, Es 335) are Nash. S-57 and T-52... and I don't even really care for relic'd instruments. They just played and sounded better than any Fender or F style I'd previously picked up.
But quality control and consistency: Picking up any two of the exact same model, one I'll love and one I wouldn't touch again, and for me it's been about one in four or one in five that I've played that I like.
I have an S63. I was never a fan of relics until I picked it up in a store. It was one of those “I cannot leave without it” moments and now it’s my #1. Best feeling neck I’ve ever played and the lollars are incredible sounding.
Nash licenses the headstock shape from fender. That’s how they can use those parts.
I've had owned and played a lot of different Tele's through the years, but once I got my Nash T63 I finally understood what a really great Tele is like. It's insanely loud acoustically and sustains for days. Fretjob was fantastic and of course, the Lollar pickups were the icing on the cake.
absolutely. Since picking up a T63 in December I have yet to put it down.
@@dukeviking Congrats on the guitar Duke! And totally agree, it's hard to put one down once you pick one up, fantastic guitars!
It's not snake skin print vinyl. It's alligator. I've made an amp cover out of black alligator vinyl.
I really like the sound of that guitar. It's alternately chiming, snarly and snappy.
Quite impressed with those pickups
Lollars are definitely sweet. It sounded good to me on all settings, clean and dirty.
I accidentally walked into a boutique guitar shop one day and walked out with a Nash T63. I never had any interest in teles but I fell in love with it. Ended up buying an S57 not long after that. They aren't collectors items (though I've kept my eye on the second hand market and they definitely hold their value) but they're great to play.
Those Lollar pickups sound amazing!
Normally nash doesn’t clear coat over the work area. That was probably a request from a customer. Most nash guitars are custom made from stores like ours. You can have them do almsot anything. And that neck shape was definitely a custom order. Normally nashes have a chunky more modern neck. Kinda close to modern Gibson 50s standard neck size. But I’m sure they would do more thin style. Just pay attention to the listing If you are looking for one. That neck is referred to as a “boat” neck. I wish you did a bit more research on these wonderful instruments. Nash is one of the best in the bizz. They have better output then any modern fender you will try. Even most custom shop fenders fall short to them. As nash are known as custom shop killers at the Chicago music exchange. Don’t let nostalgia of fender sway you’re idea of them. They are fantastic
this thing looked like a garbage partscaster… their logo tells me all i need to know. someone type that up in office 95? lol
@@looking_33 They're far from garbage. Decal logos don't tell anything and they certainly don't make anything good. Properly selected and dried wood, good fretwork, snug neck-pocket fitment, proper alignment of neck-strings-pickups-bridge, good electronics and clean wiring fundamentally make good guitars. Anyone and everyone who knows well made guitars knows this. There's not a thing in them that's junk. Their setups from factory come at about 8 out of 10 by pickiest standards.
That V neck was a surprise. Medium C profile is their typical.
@@YTPartyTonight that’s definitely the boat neck. We ordered some nash t63 teles and that’s still an option. The standard c shape is definitely the way to go
@@YTPartyTonight Spot on!
I saw one of those at a pawn shop in Nashville just a couple days ago. Don't remember how much it was.
It's so strange seeing the "worn through" part of the finish be glossy.
I have a JM63 that is absolutely incredible. We end up using that guitar in damn near everything we record though I have a large collection of vintage and new guitars. It just has that mojo that makes it have that vintage tone with modern capabilities
From what I know they build their offsets with an increased neck angle and a special tremolo system for better sustain and string action. Is it really as good as everyone describes it being?
It has a mastery bridge and I’m not sure about the tremolo or how it differs from the Fender. I know they lined the pick up beds with copper and there is no hum and they sound great with distortion or overdrive. That guitar has become the sound of the band. I have a couple nice Fender Jazzmasters and the Nash blows them away.
@@tonyhill1141I've considered a JM63 but I don't care for the roller bridge that they come with. Do you know if the bridge holes on yours had to be filled and re-drilled to accommodate the Mastery bridge or was it just a matter of swapping out the thimbles and popping it in?
I don’t see any fill ins. I bought it from a luthier and he copper lined the pickups and put on the mastery. I’ve played other ones that just don’t sound as good as this one but don’t get me wrong they were all quality guitars. I’m probably just biased for mine.
@@tonyhill1141 Understandably so! I was just curious. I've had 2 Novo Serus Js with Mastery bridges and vibratos and one Mexican road worn Jazzmaster with a vintage style bridge that I put a Mastery vibrato on and the Mastery hardware is just flawless. I know replacing a vintage style bridge with a Mastery requires boring/drilling the post holes to a slightly larger size, which is no biggie, but I wasn't sure about the post spacing or the hole size of the roller bridge that Nash uses.
As a guy who reworks guitar electronics, I absolutely love the electronics in this guitar. Fokin way better than gibson.
I have a T52 Tele and a Tele Duluxe and they are my favorite guitars. I used to play a MIM Tele Deluxe forever and upgraded to the Nash and have been so happy with it. So much so that I had to get another. I know they are a little expensive but I will have these guitars for the rest of my life. Lollar pick ups are thee best pick ups too. Just ask Jason Isbell. I play in two bands and can play as hard as I like with the Nash’s and they stay in tune. My Gibsons are good but I feel I have to be more gentle with em.
I made a double cut telecaster in 97, designed the body and routed it as well. It’s made out of one piece Honduran Mahogany. I should have patterned it. It’s modeled after a 72 thin line Tele, fender engraved humbuckers, high output.
Sounds awesome! Love Nash's choice of Lollar pickups in interesting and beautiful body configurations. I like the 3xHB Wayfarer, a way better 'Wilshire' than Epi's double cut take. Going to go see what our local Nash dealer has. Can't stand 'vintage zombie' truss adjustment though (zombie cause neck/head has to be removed).
Hi Austin, love the show.I have heard you on several occasions mention how the knobs on Strat and Teles pickup selector switches can fall off and then get lost. Here is a little tip...buy a packet of bicycle inner tube valve dust covers. They are cheap as chips and a perfect push on fit.
I have a Nash T52, best neck shape I ever played, but the finish at the back of the neck is bare wood and pretty rough, shd I sand it down to 1500grid to make it softer??
Just ordered a heap of parts to do a custom strat build. All black hardware with locking tuners. It’s going to have 3 hot rails pickups which will be switchable with my usual mad scientist wiring. Not sure how I’ll finish it yet. I’m thinking a metallic black with some airbrushed galaxy elements to give it a pop of colour.
Some of your best playing was on this guitar. You should check out the Friedman vintage T.
Agreed! My FRIEDMAN has become my #1 player. Killer guitar.
My three fave colours for strats are sonic blue, daphne blue and good old three-colour sunburst, so this is very much to my taste... apart from the relic.
Unrelated but will you be featuring one of the Epiphone Adam Jones Silverburst Les Pauls? A Norlin era inspired Epiphone Silverburst Les Paul would be cool considering your expertise on Norlins. Maybe you can even compare it to the Gibson Silverburst. Great stuff as always, appreciate the work and time you put into these vids!
Cool review!
I have a 2019 S-63 in grape metallic and it’s fantastic. It’s got a “normal” medium C neck shape…I’m guessing your review piece was a custom order with a huge honkin’ neck. I find myself actually playing mine more than my Fender Custom Shop (not reliced).
Also, for what it’s worth, if you contact Nash with a question or issue, they’ll respond QUICKLY. Even traded a few emails with the man himself. Very friendly folks who seem to love what they do.
Oh…but I hate those cases. They SEEM fancy and I love the form factor (they don’t take up a lot of space), but they’re cheaply made and the latches and interiors do not hold up. Both of my Nashes live in G&G Fender cases now.
Got to try a Nash a couple months ago when I went to Chicago Music Exchange - goddamn those are something special
It's got all the specs I like, besides the relic job. As like many others, I prefer my own mojo over time. I understand it, but for less than half that money I'd have more fun just building my own Warmoth version to break in.
Fran Capitanelli uses a bunch of Nash guitars on his fabulous channel (which revolves around bands like VH and Zeppelin), including that 12-string T-style 😀👍 And I looove Sonic Blue! 😍
I have 2 s63’s and t63’s from 08-13. None have that gloss coat over the relicing. I don’t know if they changed things or if this one was a request. Best fender style guitars I’ve ever played. I sold my custom shops and never looked back. Two of each because one strat is normal tuning, other lives half step down. One tele is normal, other is in open G.
I have a S-63 and a T-63. Love them both!
I've got a 60's strat Nash, ordered it in '04, direct from Bill Nash. Has fender decal on headstock.
Great playing today..the pups sounded pretty nice to me
I can’t believe how polarizing relics are and have been. It’s just a finish option. I don’t love pointy guitars or blue guitars so I don’t buy them but wouldn’t see the fun in posting comments about how I prefer sunburst etc
Agreed. Gotta love them stolen valor fellas on the interwebs...
I've played a couple Nash guitars. They're pretty nice! Their version of the Jazzmaster was pretty impressive in that the rhythm selection sounded very good where sometimes it isn't as usable on some Fenders that I've played. They're kind of expensive, but they're nice and you can see a lot of attention to details. The necks feel very good and soft.
I own a Nash S-63 HSS. It’s a heavy relic and it’s absolutely amazing in every way. I can’t put it down.
Been looking at the S-81 for an HSS style Strat. They look killer. I'd love it if he would make a Tele with humbuckers and a floyd rose (sort of like John 5 plays, although I like a single coil in the neck). Not sure how easy it is to make custom orders from them, seems like you have to look at their dealers and either go check one out that happens to be close to you or buy online from a dealer.
could you sand away the gloss on the “worn parts” to really feel the wood underneath or would that most likely ruin it
I think the gloss finish over the top was a request. I have four, none have the gloss over the relicing. The writing at the tip of the headstock used to be store identifier and current number that have been sent to that store. I’m assuming GUY 4 is the same. You can always contact Bill with that identifier and he will give you the information about the order of the guitar. That overcoat over the relic is super out of character. You should definitely review another one with the C shape neck.
Thanks for the review! The "GUY" might be the code for the dealer it was originally made for. I have a Nash Tele that I got from Killer Vintage in Missouri, with a serial number that starts KV.
I think you are correct. They have a dealer in Ohio that is Guitar Guys and I bet that this guitar was ordered through that dealer.
I wish you'd do a review on Fraser guitars from Dean Fraser of England. His relic guitars are like no other
Did you ever review some of Godin's higher end electric guitars? Montreal Premier, A6 Ultra, Avenue, Kingpin, Derry Grehan signature etc?
Trogly, you should definitely do a review on one of their Les Paul relics. That would be quite interesting!
They only do Fender styles, don't they?
i have a LSL saticoy its kinda the same deal ..its amazing
hey trogly i have a Mayback Strat and Tele they are Czech made guitars and handmade pickups aged for the half price as a fender
Dust in the Wind & Sultans of Swing. Interesting choices, oldies but a goodies.
Indeed yes (good song choices).
Greetings Sarge
I was gifted a S67 in 2014. That guitar changed my life and still does to this day. Mine has a solid ash body so it’s quite a bit heavier than most strats, and the neck profile is the D shape that’s 1.00 at the 1st fret and 1.05 at the 12th. I was never a fan of relics until that guitar came to me and now I only want that one. I loved it so much I played through the frets in just over 3 years. Tone Shop Guitars in Addisonx TX is a Nash Dealer so I had them put stainless frets on and it bends smoother than a roller skate on a greased ice rink. Every guitar player I let try it has this moment where they just go “woah”. The tone is unmatched of any other guitar I’ve ever owned or tried out, some multiple times the amount as mine. Bill Nash is also known to donate guitars to charitable causes, which is pretty cool for a small boutique guitar maker.
That is an awesome story! If any guitar inspires that much, then it's truly worth every penny now matter what it is. What it's all about. I love stainless frets, too. My first experience with them was with Parker, but now the only one I think I have with them is a Music Man Cutlass that plays like butter.
I have a Nash tele, strat and jazz master. Best feeling guitars I’ve ever played. Absolutely love how comfortable the necks are.
Which one do your prefer?
"Sonic Blue" is actually a '54 Cadillac color. That's also the same exact color Fender has used over the years.
Nice review, I think you'd like the 3 pickup Wayfarer more
I quite like it. Looks great, sounds great. Only thing is the abundance of signatures on the headstock including the logo it’s just too much. And also the finishing over the arm wear mark is odd. But yeah I think it’s awesome
Yeah, even if it was custom built for me alone, I wouldn't want my name scribbled in Sharpie at the end of the headstock.
Hell yeah, now that's a strat I'd play and not just collect
Lollar pickups are some of the best money can buy.
Truly interested in seeing you get into any interesting brands apart from the Big 3. This was a cool choice with really intriguing specs
Last 90 odd videos were Gibson. Nice to see variety.
I’ve always wanted that color combination. But when I found my Strat for life, alas it was a maple neck / sunburst relic. So be it
Great review, and a genuine review (not like some of the PRS DGT SE 'reviews' going around right now). Surely that grain is indicative of ash, not alder, yeah? Great shout out on the the forearm carve wear. What would Nash put a finish over it...?
I suspect it was a request. I have 2 s63’s, 2 t63’s and none have a finish over any of the relicing.
I owned a '61 Strat whose neck was a Very V "V". Compared to an old Gretsch Rancher which was a V neck. I hated it. It was stolen in '82. I had a '65 Strat I liked more, it was stolen too.
The Pacific Northwest is a hotbed of the Guitar industry. Warmoth, TV Jones, Lollar all in the Seattle area. Check out Pin-Up Guitars. It was started by a guy who used to work for Emerald City Guitars, a shop that has Joe Bonamassa as a customer.
I have a 2008 Nash and it does have the Fender logo. I bought it second hand, so I can’t confirm that they used to put them on there, but the evidence is pointing towards yes. It also has a pretty traditional neck shape.
That's so ridiculous of them.. I mean go ahead build an S style guitar but using the EXACT headstock and the Fender logo is just stupid
I think it was before Nash was super popular. More of an homage to Fender using licensed parts than ripping them off. Once the company grew, they started using their own logo.
@@garyburginjr1366 also its a fiesta red sparkle over a 3 tone sunburst. So the parts of the red that are worn away are sunburst. I don’t think the custom shop was doing that sort of thing in 08’. Apparently back in the 60s the bright colors were more popular in other countries, so fender would just spray a new finish over the existing before theyd ship them to international shop. Bill Nash kind of hopped on that train before the Fender custom shop from my understanding.
The early headstocks were blank; generally logos added after the fact by owners to make it look less plain. That’s what I did…
@@poisonedpens7390 good to know. I’ve had a 3 Nash guitars over the years, but my current strat is the first one without a Nash logo
Very nice soldering.
I own one Nash. I know and have seen enough correlating information to be about 99% certain Nash sources their bodies and necks from Wildwood Manufacturing in Northern CA. Their necks don't run thin, front to back. Bodies are 1-3/4" thick, typical of parts makers including Warmoth. 1-5/8" to 1-1/2" is the correct/typical thickness for Fenders, including '63s. Fretboard radius is 10". The serial and signature on the headstock are Sharpie marker'd.
These are pretty cool. I used to own one before.
One thing to bear in mind is that they’re technically Partscasters. Bodies & necks are Warmoth, I believe. Even the nut is a precut TUSQ nut.
So, keep that in mind when buying one new or secondhand.
Evening all!!
That Nash neck appears to have a similar profile as a Warmoth 'Boat Neck" profile.
Exactly what I was thinking. I built a Warmoth Tele with the Boat Neck years ago and it's beefy alright. Having big hands, it fills up the palm nicely and feels great. It has a Broadcaster bridge pickup, Strat style Hot Rails in the middle and P90 at the neck, so it covers the tones. All tung oil finished.
Sounds good I swear I heard a little Kansas at the start!
*"All we are is dust in the wind, dude."*
*"Dust. Wind. Dude."*
1:36 you got the labels wrong. JG is for the Jaguar ( right) and JM for the Jazzmaster (left).
I had Nash build me a 65 strategy back in 2012. It was a way better playing and sound guitar over my 62 fender custom shop.
The Lollars are something to write home about. Hey, what's up with Jericho Guitars? Owned by Gibson?
5:10 That's a weird statement, telling us what our personal reasons should be for buying a relic guitar. I absolutely buy em because I think they look cool. I also make sure it's a quality guitar, but what attracts me to them 1st is the look.
Personally it's all about resale value. I gig quite a lot, and there's no way to distinguish the relic job from actual dings post buy, which is a relief when carrying an expensive guitar everywhere.
man that thing sounds amazing
i dont like v necks either
and that contrast between the colors sucks
but man that thing sounds really spot on
Man,I am out of the loop...never knew about these...thanks for the video...
Love it thanks Trogs
Finally it’s loaded. A quick break at work is required.
My buddy has a Nash tele and i love how it sounds and plays, but i have the same exact feeling about the "duck bill yellow" coloring on the neck. Not authentic at all , hope Nash takes a closer look at that.
Hey Trogly instead of the guitar background during your playing demos could you edit in a nice picturesque scene? Like some seagulls flying or some dudes racing sailboats? It would really take this thing up a notch.
I totally got "catfished" with your title. I was in Les Paul mode and thought the "Nash" reference in the title was a Nashville guitar. I was a little pleasantly surprised to see a Strat copy. If it is a Fender I tend to go for a Tele but I do love small shop custom guitars.
Noel Gallagher has 2 of these,A white one with a star design on the body and a black one,He’s been using them as his main guitars since his last album in 2017,
I think it’s backwards at 1:37
These are amazing
super Demo. appreciate brah
I've never been a fan of fake mojo. I don't see why I'd ever pay so much for someone else to beat up my brand new guitar. I have to disagree about why people buy these, it's definitely the look over playability.
@@Krullmatic automobile enthusiasts have their own "relic" category: the rat rod. I hate them. It takes no talent to produce a vintage "patina". I guess you know how I feel about these guitars.
@@Krullmatic true. It's actually worse than a rat rod when you put it like that.
It's all about sound and playability...
Makers of orchestral instruments have been doing relicing for a long time. Violins, cellos and basses, along with some brass and woodwind instruments, often feature a finish designed to give it an aged appearance. Don't be such a prude about it.
It’s not snakeskin, it’s alligator.
that is the only way a strat trem should be set up, with all springs installed
Wow that thing sounds great! Nice guitar
I love that guitar!
Nash also relics actual Les Pauls. A friend had one and it was his main axe for years. He now plays a Baker. He does not keep many guitars around.
Nice seeing something other than a gibson!
I'd like to see an EGC on your channel.
Woot woot Trogly's guitars 🎸 🙌
they pay a fee to FMIC for use of the headstock. MJT does the same thing.
There seems to be a huge gap on the underside of the neck pocket while you’re playing.
i have nash tele early one, without decal, and for over 10 years i owe it , this is very reliable guitar. sounds cool. but i think mjt aging is much better. i think if you spend some time on mjt setup you can get also great sounding guitar but almost half of the price less and much better aging.
A Nash guitar is more American made than an American fender.
Very clean sound❤❤❤❤
I live in WA and own an S-57 and a T-52 Nash. Nash, I believe, is still based in Olympia. For the main parts, body and neck, there are three great makers in the immediate area to them. Warmouth in Puyallup is a licensed by Fender maker, but there is also Best and USA Custom in Tacoma. Both of those makers have headstock designs that... can be creatively sanded with minimum effort into the Fender shape. There is a strong rumor as to which of those three companies Bill Nash gets his parts from, but let's say it's fairly certain that he's using one of those three companies.
Lollar pickups are based out of Vashon Island WA.
The funny for me about Nash guitars is I'm not really a fan of relic instruments, but the very first Telecaster I played was the best playing and sounding Tele I'd played to date. better than Fender Custom Shop, better than tens of thousand valued vintage ones I played at Emerald City Guitars. And... unfortunately I did not get that one, but when I picked up the white Strat with 57 specs I play, I found the same experience for an S style. And I did eventually find a Nash Tele that seems as good. :)
But the main caveat I have to offer with these "magic" instruments that I own s that is that in trying out several Nash instruments, I only find about one in four at the most is a truly "special" one, and the rest I don't like at all. I should also note that the two I own have big baseball bat profile necks, which I love but folks who like "slim taper" or Ibanez RG slim type ones would probably hate.
Interesting comments. Which dealers in WA typically carry Nash? Would like to try one (or more).
@@willgo7898 I got mine through Tommy's Guitars in Everett, but they don't still carry them. Looks like Dusty Strings and Thunder Road Guitars.
Seems to be quite a few on Reverb
@@cataclysmicconverter Yes, but that's sort of why I was talking about the quality control. At one point I held my own S-57 and played it, and I love it, and played another S-57 from the wall of the store I was teaching at a few years ago, same specs, same parts... it was a boat anchor with strings. Two of the four main stage guitars, the ones I would never part with, are Nash... but I would never think of dropping two grand on one without playing it first.
@@guitarcd I completely understand that for sure. Even with a few of the LP Standards from the Demo shop I've gotten in the last couple years. The latest was a Classic that everything just felt right about and I love the most. Just subtle differences, but this one resonates like magic and with a slimmer taper neck than I usually prefer. Bottom line is the instant connection they make and when you know, you know.
seems to be quite innovative , it’s a fender copy ❤️
JG and JM are switched in the video! you labeled JG the jazzmaster and JM the jaguar =)
Warmoths licence with fender says that they can not sell the headstock with any kind of branding on it... So them passing them off to Nash and then putting a logo on wouldn't fly. Fender wouldn't stand for it.
You're free to put your own logo on a warmoth (I think warmoth even gives you one) .. but not over and over again for resale.
I thought you might have taken the neck off to have a look at the heel. If it was warmoth it would have had a turtle in there....
There’s a used nash neck that sold on Reverb. No turtle, but it is stamped nash down there with a blank spot from where it was held to be sprayed, and a serial number. Very interesting.
I've read that they also use Musikraft and Allparts bodies and necks on their builds.
I just wish I could get one without the relic job, like Fender's NOS or closet classic.
The Closet Classic has some finish checking...
@Matt Rogers I know. I don't mind that, it's the beat-to-$hi+ that's over-the-top for my taste. (Side question-you aren't originally from Stevensville, MI, are you? Went to school with a guy by the same name.)
@@cpfs936 No, I grew up on the West Coast.
I never thought I was narrow minded and I could embrace new the ways of doing stuff. But, I have a problem of justifying guitars that look like crap! I'm missing something about that is wrong. I buy my guitars and take better care than those guitars that look like I'm a pig on taking care of my guitar the majority are steel string guitars and I'm planning to have my own handmade electric guitars and 5-string basses. Keeps me out of trouble. Cheers!
I have an S63 and my neck at the 1st fret is .83 which is what stock Nash comes with. This guitar must be a special order neck. It is a medium C shape.
Original Parts Casters! You can use a Fender Headstock if you don’t put a Fender logo on it.
Oops!
1:38 Jazzmaster* but tbh Jagmaster sounds cool too