I already hae preodered on steam! Nier automata was a great cant wait for it. MAX SETTINGS 1440P 30+ FPS ON MY MONSTER PC RYZEN 7 1700 GTX 970 G1 GAMING 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 MP 600 2TB DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS! I will kill all the monsters!
Yeah I really don't know why they did that to kaine its really upsetting considering the rest. The remaster also looks very bright for such a dark game. Not sure.. But obviously will be playing it day 1 because nier, come on !
@@bebecchen How, she looks more human, i never played the original but she looked like a raven and her eyes look like its about to pop off in the original, nostagia talking and according to some comment her new looks Could be a spoiler
He's just like one tone though, Shiney. he's missing all the details from the first game. Looks like they just threw a shiny texture over all the old textures/details he used to have
Fingers crossed that this is more then just a remake and Yoko Taro throws a couple curveballs at us. I’m still hoping papa Nier shows up as some sort of secret boss.
They said the voice actors for 2B and 9S are going to play a part in this. I doubt we'll actually see 2B or 9S, but the fact that they mentioned their voice actors still intrigues me.
@Helianthus Well SPOILERS: In Drakengard 3, they did mention the existence of parallel worlds. It would be a very Yoko Taro-like move, though I think it would be more likely if they add in the E ending from Grimoire Nier (the Japanese-only book). Maybe there will be a secret ending like ending Y from Automata where it happens.
Interestingly enough, they were trying to preserve as many low resolution textures, as they could, It seems. :) They also made Kaine face more round and smaller, but keep the length of her neck, which looks very weird in some shots. edit: after playing I must say, that after all they did a good job with this remaster.
I don't like kaines new look. Her lower jaw is to big, her nose is much smaller, also her eyes don't have to have that deranged psychopath look and her cheekbones are way to big. Her eyeballs used to be her cheekbones, like her eyes were bulging out of her head. She has more of a male square facial structure now then a female oval shape before. You could just look at her and know she was crazy, now she looks like a manly lady
Yes he's basically just all one texture now. Before he had much more detail. For a book as old as him he should have some shiny parts but he still have some parts that show how old he is like wood grain or red. Not just silver. Look at Weiss in nier automata, he's perfect
This honestly just looks like NieR:Automata now I'm not complaining, since I love Automata's graphics and gameplay but with them making the Gestalt gameplay and graphic's more like Automata's, young Nier just looks like 9S with the young man's outfit
Omg kaine’s new face is so off, it doesnt give off the snarky, anger that the original facial features had, now she just looks apathetic and “too” pretty
Could be a spoiler: I heard that the dev team made the character faces unnatural in purpose, just like they did in nier automata. I’m not saying anymore because I don’t want to ruin any people’s fun, but I think you can understand why they did so, right?
I'm not too fond of Kaine's face to be honest. In the original she looks kind of crazy, you know she isn't exactly a polite person just by looking at her, while this new version is devoid of that and I'm disappointed.
This may be Yoko taro idea, I heard once that he likes to describe the opposite personality to the design team, so they design the characters differently of what is expected, because he don't like the stereotype/personality relation. Like 2B had a maid outfit, but she is cold and a fighter. 9S looks like a shota but he looses his mind and become insane halfway the story. Pascal was a big robot that you could expect to be made for combat, but it is gentle. Emil was a friendly kid, and his design has a sphere shaped head/skull with a creepy smile. So kaine being crazy and looking almost sane, may be part of his plan. I don't know for sure if this is true, I heard once that he usually does things like it to surprise/shock his fans, I would expect anything coming from that guy.
@@A117-b7g that is interesting. Tho I don't see 2B's outfit as a maid outfit, tbh. It doesn't really look like that in my opinion. Also I saw from other replies that Kaine looks like that to match Automata's style and to follow the lore
not fond for that reason? pft, my big irritation is that they have went the "ugly and realistic" direction, like in western games... cause cant be having attractive females nono, thats a no go
The remaster looks great. I personally liked the old version of the music more, but I'm sure the new version will grow on me, but it also sounded good. I have to say I don't like Kainè's new face. It doesn't even look like her anymore. The new face has none of her expressions, such as her fierce and confident gaze. The new face just isn't even reminiscent of her in my opinion, it looks like someone else.
It's like they were trying to capture the facial aesthetics of females from automata. Personally I prefer her old face, it's her gaze that always resonated with me and that is gone now.
@@shavooo I thought the same thing. Her new body design looks like an android from Automata is cosplaying Kaine. It's definitely not a bad design it just doesn't look like her at all. (I'll get used to it though) They could have kept her eye shape and round face the same. I don't mind if they change other parts of her.
While the OG was pretty great, I definitely prefer automata's models more than what we originally got. The faces in the OG were kinda weird regarding proportions, especially the faces regardless if it was a stylistic choice or not. What we have now is more akin to what I was expecting eversince we got a glimpse of the updated models during that TGS special, and needless to say, I am not disappointed! And when you think about it lore wise, its kinda interesting how she specifically looks like the YorHa models, what if they used her replicant data as a base for their designs? A2 even has false memories of a young girl living with her grandma too, idk just some food for thought LOL.
Here's my take on the face issue: in the old game all the characters kind of looked the same. Like same face syndrome. In the new game they made them different so they won't look like they're all the same person in a different costume. That's just my opinion I guess.
@@jairocolombo4410 I also prefer the original, but after a change on the art director, the engine, and a style remake towards automata's style It was obvious that It was going to change. I think the new can be a good desing, we just need time to get used It. Although that part in 4:36 is quite strange xd
Hm, it all looks great, Kaine's face took me off-guard though. I know for series unity/continuity reasons they shifted hers a bit, but I'm hoping she still keeps the spunky angry facial expressions, otherwise I'm gonna be kind of upset. She doesn't look like an angry bitch, and that's one of the things that actually appealed to me was how unapologetically rude she was. We shall see I guess.
Kaine now has a very doll like appearance. If you look at her legs in the original you can see small imperfections and realistic skin features but on the remake it's completely smoothed out and looks like porcelain... Hmm.... Also, why did they get rid of Nier's spiky hair???
If you've played Automata, that hole at 5:15 looks like the entrance to the oil field, It seems that the remaster is trying to bring Replicant and Automata even closer
Yeah, not a fan of how her hair frames her face in the remaster. The desert city also looks like it has a different aesthetic, in the remaster it's a proper and relatively generic desert city while in the original it looks like it was worn down with moss growing on the stone everywhere and was ultra grey. I'm not sure which I like more overall tbh, though the graphical quality is clearly way higher on the remaster.
Yeah her hair just blends in with her face now that she's so pale along with her face looking much less angry when her personality is pretty damn angry.
the old one looks darker and poorer, while the new one is really pleasant for the eyes. while the old matches better with the post apocalyptic dying world ambientation, the newer looks more real and could be great for impact and contrast to its melancholic story.
Absolutely everything looks better. The environments are more detailed, the render distance is increased, the lighting is more realistic, and the characters more closely resemble their art. This is shaping-up to be fantastic.
@@MetabolicPear Yes he's referring to the concept artwork. The original models were stylistically different from the actual character concept artwork. These are pretty damn spot on and look much better imo.
@@Picxalate Have to disagree with you there. Regardless of how similar they look to their concept art of their respective versions, the characters in the remake hardly resemble their original models (and they look worse now).
@@MetabolicPear To each their own. I think the new ones look miles better. Higher quality textures, higher poly assets, better proportions, and a stronger overall art direction.
@Ruxis256 Call it what you want but yes, I did. The original game had it's own uniquely defined art style and that meant everyone had very large eyes. That's just the way the game was. Automata had a pretty graceful transition of that art style and ended up looking like a much more refined version of the original's. But not only did they fail to maintain the characters' original facial structures, it's like they somewhat botched the art style in general. People are trying to explain that maybe they're focusing on designing them more closely to their character art, and yet Nier's hair spikes are gone, Kaine's Swords still don't have chains on them, etc. The immense lack of care here really makes me wonder how invested a lot of you even were with the original.
Plus some lighting in certain scenes. Look at the skyboxes in the desert area, it's exactly what also happened with mass effect 1's Eden Prime. Why do so many remasters screw up the lighting?
i agree. the original her eyes looked like they could be inhabited by a bloodthirsty demon. the newer ones are less bold. too realistic. I doubt it will matter much to the experience though, i think its just jarring when side by side
Am I the only person who loves Kainé's new face? I always thought she looked too 'Lightning FF XIII' in the original PS3 game. It's nice to see all the characters get their own distinguishable looks and quirks
Beautiful... I'm so excited, I remember playing Gestalt almost ten years ago and always wanted to play Replicant too so I'm so happy to have my wish finally ;v; They look so good like in the original consept arts, I can't wait!!
On a technical level, the one criticism I have is the rather poor Anisotropic Filtering for the ground texture. Appreciate you taking time & resource to make this comparison.
No, they also reworked the soundtrack and the voices. They also improved the translation of the script, if you compare the Western version (Gestalt) with the newly remastered version for this segment, there's slight variation of what the characters say. I think they've honestly done an amazing job, and look forward to playing it on launch :D
@@bazi5646 I feel like other composer change alot of thing of the OG OST soundtrack some of them are not good.That how I feel like if they change the soundeffect dramatic into something weird.
Thanks for this. So far, the only thing I'm not in love with are the faces. Personally, I think they look better on the PS3 version. Other than that, it looks wonderful.
@@edwinatwell7423 Agree, she has a sharper look and her face is thinner. She looks more beautiful to me. I would said that Weiss is the one that looked better before, now just don't have that amount of details and contrast in its colors.
I don't see how the PS3 faces look better when their eyes were bulging out and the proportion were off. The newer version is a lot more consistent with Automata style.
of course it's the lightning; these days everything has to look rEaLiStIc, which is why modern games look so generic and boring, and which is why people love visuals of works like Bloodborne or Gravity Rush
Honestly the remake/remaster looks amazing so far. And the new look that Kaine has isn't all that bad. Of course it's a bit to get used to, but it looks really nice for this version. Can't wait for April to experience the entire game
I disagree, I think Kaine is now more Kaine than it was before. Like if I could think of a face for Kaine with a foggy memory of her, I'd definitely see something more like what we see now. She doesn't have tose wide dark asian eyes anymore, but she has the same face type and expression, she feels more believable. The only thing I don't like as much about it is that I liked her long chin, now she looks a bit less characteristic, more like 2B if anything. Still, love the remastered version.
Why do they change the characters so drastically? Her longer face and jawline was designed with her body type in mind, now she has a tiny head jarringly resting on a long neck.
I prefer the original Kainé. She looks more fierce and rough around the edges. Remaster Kainé looks too delicate. Glad they drastically reduced the size of Brother!Nier’s hair sausages though, LOL.
it's a remake, not a remaster. a remaster is just the same game with updated textures. remakes are made with a new game engine that's up to today's standards. yoko taro even said that this is a remake and that he added more scenarios, side quests, and extra features to the game. his exact words in the interview were, "it's like adding toppings to the world's best ramen"
Holy mackeral, they updated more than I realized. Not only are the character models all new, but the graphics are way less murky and with many added textures.
I never played Nier Saga yet, but I can tell people who played will miss the fogg and other things of the original. I wish I could play the Original, I have my ps3 but this game is one of those that you cannot find easily around you
I feel the contrast on the old was more dramatic and pleasant than the new one, they can still adjust it, most important is to fix the combat dynamics of the old which was terrible, anyway, I can't wait to play it now in 2021! I mean, as soon as it is available to PC.
i disagree, the original looks very ps3-ish. kinda like everything is under this greenish/brownish filter. the new one is more sharp, and the colors look far better as well.
@@marcosdheleno You're right about the generation looks, but the new game seems to the same quality of Nier Automata that is already 4 years old... look the graphics on the more recent AC Valhalla or Control for example... I think the shadows are too soft and light and they brake the atmosphere of the original game, some more contrast in the ambient occlusion is needed, but they still have time to fix that, or maybe you can change this in the game settings, I like the new shape on the character design though.
Everyone - Why they changed Kaine face she doesn't look like herself. *Kaine original concept art in which she looks like a doll* - They don't see us? *A2 is based on Kaine* - U see me? *Kaine concept art* - Yeah I see u To be honest.... I didn't like the original model so I'm happy with the new one :')
@@Alexander-nr5tt True, but I like to believe that they were based on that person appearance. A2 is the one who remind me the most of Kaine, with her personality or her appearance. And even if she was not based on Kaine, we have to admit that on her concept art, Kaine looks like a doll, she is way more feminine that her game model. So I think that her new model is more fainthful to her concept art, and people exagerate a lot.
I will be honest I never played this game series but the original looks of the characters look so much better as for the surroundings and lighting the remake looks much better
@@Boki_86 i mean sure, but... it's literally officially labelled as a remake, and actually there's a bit of ambiguity on wether or not this is a remake or remaster, the devs said it's an updated version and people online seem to agree it's a remaster. So there's probably no point in arguing which is better but i respect ur opinion tho, demon souls prtty gud too.
@Attaker Atex They did the opposite, they did Kainé look like the androids, since Nier Automata came before this Remaster, if you know what i mean. But i understand your point anyways.
Hm.....I don't know Kaine looks kinda like a female Version of Michael Jackson here at 4:36 Maybe it's just this one Scene and not the entire Game long.
@@jerdon5770 Unique type of face means you can tell she's from Nier. Can you even distinguish Kaine's new face from among other generic female game characters?
Right? Idk how anyone can prefer Kaine's new face. But I might be biased I guess? Kaine's my favorite video game character of all time so my standards for this remake are incredibly high, lol.
I disagree with the connections being "very loose". Automata has shit tons of call backs to the original. Just playing Automata already spoils the ending of Replicant.
The new version seems more consistent with the graphics and art style of NieR:Automata.
I think that's the point...
@@Independenceday95 no need to act smart buddy
@@bruhwereinacarexhaust tell that to the other one.
I already hae preodered on steam! Nier automata was a great cant wait for it. MAX SETTINGS 1440P 30+ FPS ON MY MONSTER PC RYZEN 7 1700 GTX 970 G1 GAMING 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 MP 600 2TB DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS! I will kill all the monsters!
@@shredderorokusaki3013 wow super duper bro
All these people complaining about Kaine and no one taking about how fucking SHINY my boy Weiss is.
Dude straight GLEAMING!
bruh, she looks like Micheal Jacksohn....
He looks amazing for being sealed for like 1000 years. It’s like he was freshly bound yesterday
Yeah I really don't know why they did that to kaine its really upsetting considering the rest. The remaster also looks very bright for such a dark game. Not sure.. But obviously will be playing it day 1 because nier, come on !
@@bebecchen How, she looks more human, i never played the original but she looked like a raven and her eyes look like its about to pop off in the original, nostagia talking and according to some comment her new looks Could be a spoiler
He's just like one tone though, Shiney. he's missing all the details from the first game.
Looks like they just threw a shiny texture over all the old textures/details he used to have
I'm totally fine with how the old NieR looked, but the remaster does look much better.
But the performance in the remastered is way better . Look at the smoothness.
@@Doctor_Duck. yes absolutely
I like the new look of everything, but I'm digging the old school kainé look more. She gives of a lil bit of a deranged vibe with her eyes
most important aspect is how this version will play far better too. nier original was very janky.
*Remake.
to be honest
i'm really going to miss the old graphics and young brother nier's spikes
In the thumbnail, the 2021 version seems like Michael Jackson
Lmao I can’t unsee that now
That was the exact thought I had when I saw it. I was like "WTF did they do to Kaine?"
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one!
I think thats intentional, with kainé being intersex/hermaphrodite
Kaine's hair: aha!
Kaine's face: hmmmmm
Kaine's spoiler: oh my...
i think its just the angle in that shot she looks great in the other parts
"Well, this doesn't look suspicious at all."
Everything looks better, except for Kaine's face. They obviously did something wrong with her design so hopefully they'll fix that before release.
I kind of prefer her previous model. They might still fix it? Probs
Am i the only one who likes her new face?
@@randomcommentor2932 I think her face looks fine but the old face looks more aggressive which fits better with kaine's personality.
@@ArynBacklogDragon The old one fits her personality better but it does make sense that she'd want the newer one because she wants to be feminine.
Personally the old one’s face is giving me uncanny vibes.
This is impressive. They gameplay is much improved.
Fingers crossed that this is more then just a remake and Yoko Taro throws a couple curveballs at us. I’m still hoping papa Nier shows up as some sort of secret boss.
They said the voice actors for 2B and 9S are going to play a part in this. I doubt we'll actually see 2B or 9S, but the fact that they mentioned their voice actors still intrigues me.
Ugh, that would be so good.
@Helianthus Well SPOILERS:
In Drakengard 3, they did mention the existence of parallel worlds. It would be a very Yoko Taro-like move, though I think it would be more likely if they add in the E ending from Grimoire Nier (the Japanese-only book). Maybe there will be a secret ending like ending Y from Automata where it happens.
I guess it'd be cool if he just straight up made the Shadowlord Father Nier
Yoko confirmed new content is being added as well.
Thank you for the comparison, can’t wait for the game come out!
No problem :)
Interestingly enough, they were trying to preserve as many low resolution textures, as they could, It seems. :) They also made Kaine face more round and smaller, but keep the length of her neck, which looks very weird in some shots. edit: after playing I must say, that after all they did a good job with this remaster.
why?
They made her look like an alien.
@@dweblinveltz5035 a giraffe
I don't like kaines new look. Her lower jaw is to big, her nose is much smaller, also her eyes don't have to have that deranged psychopath look and her cheekbones are way to big. Her eyeballs used to be her cheekbones, like her eyes were bulging out of her head.
She has more of a male square facial structure now then a female oval shape before.
You could just look at her and know she was crazy, now she looks like a manly lady
Weiss looks like he's missing textures. Why is he so shiny and clean?
You know how Weiss is like.
He would pay attention that he is cleaned regulary.
that's no ordinary old book, it's the great Grimoire Weiss! a tome of such power and wisdom can't be dirty
@@satanacio7331 Except when talking about Kaine....
Yes he's basically just all one texture now.
Before he had much more detail.
For a book as old as him he should have some shiny parts but he still have some parts that show how old he is like wood grain or red.
Not just silver.
Look at Weiss in nier automata, he's perfect
This honestly just looks like NieR:Automata now
I'm not complaining, since I love Automata's graphics and gameplay
but with them making the Gestalt gameplay and graphic's more like Automata's, young Nier just looks like 9S with the young man's outfit
One word to describe this: Masterpiece.
Nah, that’s for the original
For this, it’s: Remasterpieced
it's two words. 🥸
@@TheHammerGuy94 I hope you get this word copyrighted.
@@BrokeBillionare nah, im just a very punny person.
I'm hyped for this but I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss Papa Nier.
Maybe he'll be a dlc costume.
I don't miss him at all, he was so ugly
@@Traina sojiro tho
@@DarkLyris sojiro tho
Ah yesss :(( i first knew gestalt so i was used to papa nier instead of the brother one
Omg kaine’s new face is so off, it doesnt give off the snarky, anger that the original facial features had, now she just looks apathetic and “too” pretty
Isn't it?! Something feels off about her face. Or maybe the thumbnail just portrayed her in an unnatural way
Its the angle. look at her in 5:01
"she"
@@swarthybullxxx yes, Kaine is a woman.
The old one was built to be emotive rather than pretty. Major downgrade.
nier brother in the original looks like the ice age baby
Is that a bad thing?
@@baddragon5636 Ghastly horrid thing.
@@alamtarokainkavan4524 what's horrid?
@@baddragon5636 we get it man you like the original but not everyone else does
@@bruhwereinacarexhaust how did you make this assumption? I like the newest one more...so what are you talking about?
the new models look fantastic but they should've kept the kino filter, mybe reshade can eventually help with that
カイネはオリジナルの方が美人だ。と思う．．．
髪切った女性に元のほうが良かったって言っちゃうタイプ
ほんとそれな
顔変わりすぎてショックだわ、、、
I really like the new face, it's translate Akihiko Yoshida artstyle into 3D perfectly.
Yet the face looks a lit bit weird.
Could be a spoiler:
I heard that the dev team made the character faces unnatural in purpose, just like they did in nier automata.
I’m not saying anymore because I don’t want to ruin any people’s fun, but I think you can understand why they did so, right?
@@動く城-y1j not really as
- spolier -
-they were supposed to be perfect replicants thinking they are humans-
Not really a spoiler
The moon *ISN'T* made of cheese
@@kboi1170 but is it not tho?? we wont know until we taste it
It’s understandable, if you noticed her face is identical to 2b/A2. If you dig deeper in the lore, you’ll understand.
I'm not too fond of Kaine's face to be honest. In the original she looks kind of crazy, you know she isn't exactly a polite person just by looking at her, while this new version is devoid of that and I'm disappointed.
This may be Yoko taro idea, I heard once that he likes to describe the opposite personality to the design team, so they design the characters differently of what is expected, because he don't like the stereotype/personality relation. Like 2B had a maid outfit, but she is cold and a fighter. 9S looks like a shota but he looses his mind and become insane halfway the story. Pascal was a big robot that you could expect to be made for combat, but it is gentle. Emil was a friendly kid, and his design has a sphere shaped head/skull with a creepy smile. So kaine being crazy and looking almost sane, may be part of his plan.
I don't know for sure if this is true, I heard once that he usually does things like it to surprise/shock his fans, I would expect anything coming from that guy.
@@A117-b7g that is interesting. Tho I don't see 2B's outfit as a maid outfit, tbh. It doesn't really look like that in my opinion. Also I saw from other replies that Kaine looks like that to match Automata's style and to follow the lore
not fond for that reason? pft, my big irritation is that they have went the "ugly and realistic" direction, like in western games... cause cant be having attractive females nono, thats a no go
kaine's face looks like michael jackson... 4:51 I hope it would be only that scene
heeee heeeeee
I literally said the same thing when I saw it. I hate her new face so much, lol.
So I wasn't the only one who thought that too XD.
Well I can't un see this one
*When you have no idea what MJ looks like*
The remaster looks great. I personally liked the old version of the music more, but I'm sure the new version will grow on me, but it also sounded good. I have to say I don't like Kainè's new face. It doesn't even look like her anymore. The new face has none of her expressions, such as her fierce and confident gaze. The new face just isn't even reminiscent of her in my opinion, it looks like someone else.
It's like they were trying to capture the facial aesthetics of females from automata. Personally I prefer her old face, it's her gaze that always resonated with me and that is gone now.
@@shavooo I thought the same thing. Her new body design looks like an android from Automata is cosplaying Kaine. It's definitely not a bad design it just doesn't look like her at all. (I'll get used to it though) They could have kept her eye shape and round face the same. I don't mind if they change other parts of her.
While the OG was pretty great, I definitely prefer automata's models more than what we originally got. The faces in the OG were kinda weird regarding proportions, especially the faces regardless if it was a stylistic choice or not. What we have now is more akin to what I was expecting eversince we got a glimpse of the updated models during that TGS special, and needless to say, I am not disappointed!
And when you think about it lore wise, its kinda interesting how she specifically looks like the YorHa models, what if they used her replicant data as a base for their designs? A2 even has false memories of a young girl living with her grandma too, idk just some food for thought LOL.
@@bruhwereinacarexhaust Aww yeah I for got about that lore about A2 and Kaine. What you said is every ture but I still don't like Kaine's design.
@@simsimma3839 das okie, I can see why peeps prefer the old design, more power to you :D
this looks awesome, almost like they did a remake, plus the gameplay improvements, i can't wait!
Here's my take on the face issue: in the old game all the characters kind of looked the same. Like same face syndrome. In the new game they made them different so they won't look like they're all the same person in a different costume. That's just my opinion I guess.
Kaine in 5:00 doesn't look so bad, it's quite great, although I hope that they perfectionate that 4:36 E.T. look
I prefer the original,.much more beatifull
Original much better because of feminine face structure. The updated version much more square/masculine
@@The7AceGaming I'm curious if this is a deliberate change, because of her character's situation.
@@jairocolombo4410 I also prefer the original, but after a change on the art director, the engine, and a style remake towards automata's style It was obvious that It was going to change. I think the new can be a good desing, we just need time to get used It. Although that part in 4:36 is quite strange xd
@@The7AceGaming yes, thats the exact point
Me who already preorder this game on pc. Lets goooooo loooks like a beauty
Go where?
Go where?
Go where?
Kinda gonna miss our main character as the dad, but still I’m hyped
@endeegetto I heard they were planning to release it as dlc IF this sells well, but take that with a grain of salt. I can't find any sources on this.
I miss that silvery shine Kaine has in the original
After so many years and PS3's Cell processor remains a total beast of power!!!😎
Hm, it all looks great, Kaine's face took me off-guard though. I know for series unity/continuity reasons they shifted hers a bit, but I'm hoping she still keeps the spunky angry facial expressions, otherwise I'm gonna be kind of upset. She doesn't look like an angry bitch, and that's one of the things that actually appealed to me was how unapologetically rude she was. We shall see I guess.
p' sure her dialogue's still going to portray how much of an angry bitch she is though
except this time, she's cute now
@@lvcrimosv So. Basically she became A2 now by design and personality all the way.
Oh wait...
@@lvcrimosv "cute" did we really watch the same video? Or are you comparing her face to other "ugly and realistic" females in western games?
@@YuudachiPois i'm not comparing anything, she's just cute to me ?
old kaine or new kaine, i'll still love her design either way
Kaine now has a very doll like appearance. If you look at her legs in the original you can see small imperfections and realistic skin features but on the remake it's completely smoothed out and looks like porcelain... Hmm....
Also, why did they get rid of Nier's spiky hair???
I played nier automata and that is one of my most favorite games of all time but I never played the original Nier so I'm super hyped to get into it
If you've played Automata, that hole at 5:15 looks like the entrance to the oil field, It seems that the remaster is trying to bring Replicant and Automata even closer
Everything is literally so much better except Kaine's face. Anyone's with me? 😂
Yeah, not a fan of how her hair frames her face in the remaster. The desert city also looks like it has a different aesthetic, in the remaster it's a proper and relatively generic desert city while in the original it looks like it was worn down with moss growing on the stone everywhere and was ultra grey. I'm not sure which I like more overall tbh, though the graphical quality is clearly way higher on the remaster.
Yeah her hair just blends in with her face now that she's so pale along with her face looking much less angry when her personality is pretty damn angry.
I agree.
@@johnnyshins511 Yea, exactly what I'm thinking. Her old face suits her more.
She look like Micheal Jackson somehow.
the old one looks darker and poorer, while the new one is really pleasant for the eyes. while the old matches better with the post apocalyptic dying world ambientation, the newer looks more real and could be great for impact and contrast to its melancholic story.
@In the name of scientific progress it's a design choice, not an artistic failure. Original one's faces design isn't realistic too, may you notice.
Absolutely everything looks better. The environments are more detailed, the render distance is increased, the lighting is more realistic, and the characters more closely resemble their art. This is shaping-up to be fantastic.
More closely resemble their art? Which art are you talking about? They look almost entirely different now.
@@MetabolicPear Yes he's referring to the concept artwork. The original models were stylistically different from the actual character concept artwork. These are pretty damn spot on and look much better imo.
@@Picxalate Have to disagree with you there. Regardless of how similar they look to their concept art of their respective versions, the characters in the remake hardly resemble their original models (and they look worse now).
@@MetabolicPear To each their own. I think the new ones look miles better. Higher quality textures, higher poly assets, better proportions, and a stronger overall art direction.
@Ruxis256 Call it what you want but yes, I did. The original game had it's own uniquely defined art style and that meant everyone had very large eyes. That's just the way the game was. Automata had a pretty graceful transition of that art style and ended up looking like a much more refined version of the original's. But not only did they fail to maintain the characters' original facial structures, it's like they somewhat botched the art style in general.
People are trying to explain that maybe they're focusing on designing them more closely to their character art, and yet Nier's hair spikes are gone, Kaine's Swords still don't have chains on them, etc.
The immense lack of care here really makes me wonder how invested a lot of you even were with the original.
pause on 2:29 and look at the eyes.
the remake lacking that crazed energy
Plus some lighting in certain scenes. Look at the skyboxes in the desert area, it's exactly what also happened with mass effect 1's Eden Prime. Why do so many remasters screw up the lighting?
i agree. the original her eyes looked like they could be inhabited by a bloodthirsty demon. the newer ones are less bold. too realistic. I doubt it will matter much to the experience though, i think its just jarring when side by side
You right
Well if you pause at 2:30, the remake looks quite crazy (just as she's about to duck out of the frame),
Am I the only person who loves Kainé's new face?
I always thought she looked too 'Lightning FF XIII' in the original PS3 game. It's nice to see all the characters get their own distinguishable looks and quirks
Beautiful... I'm so excited, I remember playing Gestalt almost ten years ago and always wanted to play Replicant too so I'm so happy to have my wish finally ;v; They look so good like in the original consept arts, I can't wait!!
This isn't just a remaster....its a sequel too.... You can't trick me.
On a technical level, the one criticism I have is the rather poor Anisotropic Filtering for the ground texture. Appreciate you taking time & resource to make this comparison.
* Slaps SMT Nocturne *
THAT'S how you do a rerelease.
SMT3R huge achievement: looking at that Dx2 mobile game model, looking back at SMT3R model: *BRUH*
lmaoooooo
They did it like XBC definitive edition! Where its a Remaster but they did more texture work & new models, mostly its the same! Looks fantastic
No, they also reworked the soundtrack and the voices. They also improved the translation of the script, if you compare the Western version (Gestalt) with the newly remastered version for this segment, there's slight variation of what the characters say. I think they've honestly done an amazing job, and look forward to playing it on launch :D
@@bazi5646 I feel like other composer change alot of thing of the OG OST soundtrack some of them are not good.That how I feel like if they change the soundeffect dramatic into something weird.
Now kaine have a similarity with zero, i love it
You make a really good point there
Thanks for this. So far, the only thing I'm not in love with are the faces. Personally, I think they look better on the PS3 version. Other than that, it looks wonderful.
I think the new Kaine is way prettier than the old Kaine.
@@edwinatwell7423 Agree, she has a sharper look and her face is thinner. She looks more beautiful to me.
I would said that Weiss is the one that looked better before, now just don't have that amount of details and contrast in its colors.
@@edwinatwell7423 big agree
I don't see how the PS3 faces look better when their eyes were bulging out and the proportion were off.
The newer version is a lot more consistent with Automata style.
Ew
Why does Kaine look like E.T in the thumbnail?
Edit: her face at 5:01 looks a lot better than the thumbnail
she only looks "better" because she's further from the camera at the 5min mark
@@BrixieGunMage that.. that's not a good sign is it?
* sees Kainé *
look how they massacred my boy
"Boy"
@@sinolevi8735 did I stutter? lol
"Boy"
fuck u
Something about the old one makes me like it more.
Its the better lighting. So much more interesting.
Cuz you have your nostalgia glasses on.
I guess might be the color work, I haven’t play replicant but agree with you, it feels less flat but les realistic and Automata like
@@Asupernaruto1 screw off with that shit. I can see the original having some better parts too, and I didn't even play it
of course it's the lightning; these days everything has to look rEaLiStIc, which is why modern games look so generic and boring, and which is why people love visuals of works like Bloodborne or Gravity Rush
Honestly the remake/remaster looks amazing so far. And the new look that Kaine has isn't all that bad. Of course it's a bit to get used to, but it looks really nice for this version. Can't wait for April to experience the entire game
I know it's still unfinished but they better not forget about Nier's hair spikes
I'd rather they just let us play as Papa Nier tbh
Original Kaine's looks better than the Remaster
I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw her appear.
No, looks uncanny, and the faces all look too samey in the original. Take off the nostalgia goggles
I disagree, I think Kaine is now more Kaine than it was before. Like if I could think of a face for Kaine with a foggy memory of her, I'd definitely see something more like what we see now. She doesn't have tose wide dark asian eyes anymore, but she has the same face type and expression, she feels more believable.
The only thing I don't like as much about it is that I liked her long chin, now she looks a bit less characteristic, more like 2B if anything. Still, love the remastered version.
Old one is more expressive and violent tbh
@@nessy3338 i'm playing the first game rn, nostalgia my ass. the new design SUCKS
カイネが初めて大人になったニーアを見た時のあの表情が再現出来てるなら即買う
新しいムービー上がっててそのシーンあったけど一瞬だけだったから表情がよく分からなかった
I like kaine's Original face
Why do they change the characters so drastically? Her longer face and jawline was designed with her body type in mind, now she has a tiny head jarringly resting on a long neck.
Hopefully they might fix a few things, that long neck made me question my sanity too.
I prefer the original Kainé. She looks more fierce and rough around the edges. Remaster Kainé looks too delicate. Glad they drastically reduced the size of Brother!Nier’s hair sausages though, LOL.
this version is closer to designer intent Akihiko Yoshida.
Same the untouched whites feel less depressing which is the point of NieR pretty much
- Ruined Kaines face
- NIER looks 10
- Ruined Temple of drifting sands music
being consistent with Automata isn't always a good thing.
it's a remake, not a remaster. a remaster is just the same game with updated textures. remakes are made with a new game engine that's up to today's standards. yoko taro even said that this is a remake and that he added more scenarios, side quests, and extra features to the game. his exact words in the interview were, "it's like adding toppings to the world's best ramen"
Taro said that this isnt a remake or remaster, its a upgraded version, something between remake and remaster
@@fettibomba4504 i see :o
Change in textures looks impressive!
Holy mackeral, they updated more than I realized.
Not only are the character models all new, but the graphics are way less murky and with many added textures.
4:35 I don't know if they making a new kaine or its just michael jackson in cosplay
Her models horrible. the face and neckvat least.
I never played Nier Saga yet, but I can tell people who played will miss the fogg and other things of the original.
I wish I could play the Original, I have my ps3 but this game is one of those that you cannot find easily around you
Hopefully they give kaine's face the sonic treatment.
I feel the contrast on the old was more dramatic and pleasant than the new one, they can still adjust it, most important is to fix the combat dynamics of the old which was terrible, anyway, I can't wait to play it now in 2021! I mean, as soon as it is available to PC.
i disagree, the original looks very ps3-ish. kinda like everything is under this greenish/brownish filter. the new one is more sharp, and the colors look far better as well.
@@marcosdheleno You're right about the generation looks, but the new game seems to the same quality of Nier Automata that is already 4 years old... look the graphics on the more recent AC Valhalla or Control for example... I think the shadows are too soft and light and they brake the atmosphere of the original game, some more contrast in the ambient occlusion is needed, but they still have time to fix that, or maybe you can change this in the game settings, I like the new shape on the character design though.
I like the old Kaine's thin long face more though
I think her old face fits her personality more. Also If I'? Not mistaken they shortened her legs
kaine looks fine in the earlier scene, shown at about 5:00. maybe its just the angle or that scene in particular is where she looks weird
Thank you
Everyone - Why they changed Kaine face she doesn't look like herself.
*Kaine original concept art in which she looks like a doll* - They don't see us?
*A2 is based on Kaine* - U see me?
*Kaine concept art* - Yeah I see u
To be honest.... I didn't like the original model so I'm happy with the new one :')
@@Alexander-nr5tt True, but I like to believe that they were based on that person appearance. A2 is the one who remind me the most of Kaine, with her personality or her appearance.
And even if she was not based on Kaine, we have to admit that on her concept art, Kaine looks like a doll, she is way more feminine that her game model. So I think that her new model is more fainthful to her concept art, and people exagerate a lot.
@@Alexander-nr5tt no one is definitively saying that, its just pure fun speculation, with the false memories only helping that speculation.
The World is so much more alive, and vibrant in the Remake version
I will be honest I never played this game series but the original looks of the characters look so much better as for the surroundings and lighting the remake looks much better
Original had better (dark) atmosphere
Wonder if we will get a nier gestalt remaster as well
カイネの顔これじゃない感ある。
造形の違和感と言えるのか、
担当の人も間に合わせるので手一杯みたいだけど、
顔のテクスチャもうちょい作り直してほしい。
自分はめっちゃタイプ
It's so much better but there are a ton of particle effects missing, like smoke or sand in the wind. Why is that? Makes it looks better but "flat"
オリジナルの方が重厚感あって好きなんだけどなぁ。リマスターは綺麗だけどなんか垢抜け感あって...
This looks so goooood! I can't wait.
Looks like this will be the new gold standard for REMASTERS.
i would argue that Demon's Souls is already the gold standard.
@@Boki_86 isn't that a remake tho
Lul Xenoblade 1 say hi
@@ariffahmi3051 not really it is still the oroginal code running with updates and a graphics overhaul
@@Boki_86 i mean sure, but... it's literally officially labelled as a remake, and actually there's a bit of ambiguity on wether or not this is a remake or remaster, the devs said it's an updated version and people online seem to agree it's a remaster. So there's probably no point in arguing which is better but i respect ur opinion tho, demon souls prtty gud too.
I think the new faces look better. Old one was going for an anime look with big eyes and pointy chins. Remaster looks more natural
I can't wait for Illidan to tell me to stop pounding him again.
Can't tell if it's a remaster or a remake because damn the visuals are like night and day. Can't wait to start playing this game soon.
The facial models sure took a hit while the environment looks amazing
nah.
Gotta love the "different" = "bad"
they look totaly fine ×_×
@@akiinmoonlight79 they look fucking awful, especially Kaine's new face
Face models look worse than the original, specifically Kaine's face model. This reminds me of FFX character face remodeling😬😬
so we not gonna talk about how long is kaine neck ?
This actually looks amazing. But I just cant bring myself to play it without daddy Nier
He's upcoming DLC. Checkout the DLC trailer.
I was waiting for this for sooooo loooong))) now i can experience this game again
Oh no Kaine what happened
Wish they were more faithful to the original's atmosphere and lighting
this is the original atmosphere and lighting. Cavia wasnt able to do it because budget and technology.
Will there be anewly added content that the original doesnt have one?
Yes.
Kaine's face looks like just a copy paste from Nier Automata's female androids. But the rest it's looking freaking amazing.
Yes, I agree. She looks more like A2 now. Kainé is unisex, and her androgynous face in the original better suited her character...
@Attaker Atex They did the opposite, they did Kainé look like the androids, since Nier Automata came before this Remaster, if you know what i mean. But i understand your point anyways.
I mean.... Story wise, A2 is based on Kaine, so it's logic.
Been minute since I’ve seen a true remaster
Really not liking the re-done faces.
They made the facial models look less Japanese. Fits with Automata
Honestly, I think they look way better.
ps3 faces are ugly because they are old.
the new faces are ugly because they look generic (and kaine looks like micheal jackson)
@@Ted_Kenzoku Kaine is transgender
@@beezusHrist micheal jackson is transgender?
Also kaine is intersexual.
Did it need remastering? I'm not convinced. I will buy it when it goes on deals, I've played it so many times in in no rush
I'm super excited for the remaster. The janky gameplay from the original is definitely improved which is great.
@@mikelemos87 how do you feel about the new soundtrack?
Hm.....I don't know Kaine looks kinda like a female Version of Michael Jackson here at 4:36
Maybe it's just this one Scene and not the entire Game long.
Some areas feels a bit too bright imo, i always loved the gloom atmosphere in nier back then
Kaine's face changed from one of the most unique to indistinguishable mess.
Agreed. As she is unisex, her androgynous face in the original was more suited to her character.
All the old female faces looked the same so tf you on about unique
@@jerdon5770 Unique type of face means you can tell she's from Nier. Can you even distinguish Kaine's new face from among other generic female game characters?
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED! I've been waiting for this game to make it to pc or get ported but this is even better!
The original Kainé looks so much better, holy shit.
What the hell did they do to Kaine's face? I'm glad this is an early graphics comparison, or else I'd be worried for the final product.
I mean the game is gonna be out in 2 months, I wouldn't expect any changes at this point
their new faces look weird
Kinda, in the case of Nier it looks better, but Kaine looks a little strange, maybe it is to match the designs seen in Nier: Automata.
@@thechrissguy i know why they did it. Im just personally not a fan
Nah fam it’s the old faces that look weird
@@rvnhty Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Mine also still stands.
@@desireehayles9353 Yeah, you are
1本の動画だけで判断するには色々と情報量が不足していますから、他の動画が出るなら違うのも見たいですね。
特にカイネ。新しい感じも嫌いではないんですけどね。
Omg Remastered Kaine looks strange...
Strange? More like horrible
Guys are tripping now.
michael iaaackson!!
Right? Idk how anyone can prefer Kaine's new face. But I might be biased I guess? Kaine's my favorite video game character of all time so my standards for this remake are incredibly high, lol.
@@Castardly the new face lacks expression and the badass feel she always gave
What's the relation between this and Automata? Are they connected?
I disagree with the connections being "very loose". Automata has shit tons of call backs to the original. Just playing Automata already spoils the ending of Replicant.