what the original's hardware cannot do: dynamic lighting. if it had dynamic lighting the game doesn't need to slap a consistent hue to an area to simulate daylight/dark area. you can see this at its best at 2:11
@@Hato1992 if you actually looked at them side by side they look different. They have similar features like I noticed the noses are the same but these models do look different.
@@Senji_223 Right? It would be amazing to see what it could truly be. The trilogy had great characters and a good story, but the gameplay aged HORRIBLY and let's be honest, gameplay wasn't really good to begin with, imo. But, imagine if Yoko Taro teamed up with Platinum again, oh my godddddddddd, the gameplay would more than likely be amazing!
@@_Glamor i think platinum even had like a scrapped drakengard game where you control a dragon and also have ground combat maybe they could reuse assets and gameplay from that it’d be amazing
@@bruhgator i really like the game, don't get me wrong and i finished it on the highest difficulty. But personally i would ranked the movement and fighting in this game very low. Didn't enjoy the fighting, cause it didn't felt responsive, no real control about geralts animation and like 0 hit feedback. In that regard i found the Nier 1 fighting way better. Not incredibly good, it's very simple. But it didn't feel that clunky like witcher 3. And there isn't that much decision making in the witcher fights. After 1 hour you know the whole game, there are no new mechanics or even enemy patterns. You get still different weapons and magic spells in Nier, which feels very different from each other and give some experimental decisions. For such a praised game like witcher 3, too less people analyse that fighting system. I don't want to compare 2 very different games here, only the fighting system and the bad reputation of nier 1. Which is decent compared to most western fighting systems.
@@michaelnguyen6891 There were two versions of the game, one where Nier was a father (Only this one was released in the west) and one where he was a brother. This is a redo of the second version, where he is younger and thank Yoko Taro that he lost that gel...
@@AgentSapphire i think it’ll be fine. They realized the success of automata so they’re gonna try to keep it similar cause if it ain’t broke... don’t go fu%#*= it up lol
@Christian Longogranted it was an easy platinum but still the current percentage for plat is 30.81 which is actually quite low when notoriously difficult games like nioh have a higher percentage of people platinuming them
I like the new face models better. The old models had pointy chins which made the whole face look elongated, and the colder color Palette is kinda growing on me too.
Yeah, the old one had a warmer tone. I wonder why they didn't keep it in backgrounds to intentionally give a bit more to give contrast with the characters. Same for some of the darker or more colorful clothes, the new version really go for that cold and monotone art direction. Not in a bad way, but it make me wonder how it would look under other direction choices that give more place to contrasts.
@@makotheshark3365 cash grab? wouldn't call it that yes they toned down the colorfullness but improved on the graphics and reworked the entire gameplay it's more like Automata now which was highly praised i don't like square enix these days but compared to other stuff they Remastered like KH or older FF titles this is everything but not a cash grab
@@ResistanceForever I was using older TV that was kinda blurry back when I played the original, now I have a bigger, better TV that's crystal clear and could actually show every little details of the game for me. So yeah, it wasn't HD for me before but it will be once this got released. Good for you that it was HD for you even back then.
I gotta be that person. The green yellow tone was ugly and had to go. The colour isnt gone, they just went towards a more blue palette (which people sometimes register as grey I guess) and the super saturated bits have been toned down Thank God. It ultimately works better, especially since the battle mechanics are coded by reddish tones.
I think that Nier gestalt and replicant were meant to look quite grimy and dirty, at their core they are a parody of traditional jrpg's so they purpousely had that green lighting. Though the original still exsists and I wouldnt want my remake to be a carbon copy of the original.
I agree, this remake has done a good job of taking artistic decisions from the original and giving them more consideration than before. I like how the encounter with Emil's sister is now almost totally monochromatic, because it gives extra attention to those big red eyes that she has. It not only gives the scene an overall more medical and sanitary impression that ties into Emil's backstory as an experiment, but doubles down on the overall cold atmosphere of the story moment as a whole. We need more remakes from this studio.
I never played Nier gestalt but watching this trailer comparison some scenes are more interesting/appealing in the old version mainly because of the color palettes. I think there are quite a few like me who get bored with "realitistic" washed out colors, even though it probably fits thematically. I don't really need realitic lighting and color in a fantasy based entertainment, even if it's well done. I rather watch an well animated Anime dragon than a high budget Hollywood CG dragon anytime (for example). But when playing the game I'll be totally fine in this case, because the character design is still interesting. ... Anyway, I am much more bothered that they didn't improve the animation.
Ill be playing for the 1st time with this new release, im so curious about the outfit does it get explained or is it just creative direction of the design team?
I have only played Automata, so it's interesting to see both versions of Replicant like this. The old one didn't age poorly at all and the new one is simply gorgeous! I think the desaturated new version will contribute to enhancing all the depressive feels xD
I'm happy I get to see Devola's curly hair from the old concept art. And from what I've seen, I'm pretty sure these redesigns are probably more faithful to the concept art than the one from ingame of PS3. You can see it if you compare the redesigns of Nier and Devola with the concept arts. Orrrrr they just wanna make it consistent with the art style of automata :)
This is just a preview. Let's just hope that 1.5 will better in everything. Opinion, I much prefer the new one. Arguably when it comes to graphics it would most likely get higher sales if there's a new person that has no knowledge in NieR, OR really likes this type of graphic. The twins are pretty accurate imo, since they're androids, they need to look a bit more "attractive" than the majority of the Replicants. Gameplay wise by watching the trailers it improved by a lot. While a lot of people keep complaining that the new colours look "washed", I actually like it. It doesn't sting my eyes nor the lighting is too harsh. For a game that's depressing, esthetic is not exactly the main point there, but the story. Facial expression, I'll pass on it for now because there's not much to see tbh. Personally excited for the music, to see if they made it more impressive or worse.
I'm sure there will be mods that end up swapping in the old character models, music, along with a reshader, so they probably should just not. The improved framerate and gameplay is worth far more, since that what really hinders the original.
It's just a very vocal minority nitpicking rather than giving actual complaints really. Don't mind them, this remaster/remake is already amazing the more they show it.
I think a lot of us are just worried about the outcome. The combat definitely needed updating, as did visuals, but it feels weird to drastically change faces shapes so much. Like why is Kaine's nose suddenly so much shorter? And why is everyone suddenly so pale? I get it's a style change, but they could have still kept the overall face shape with major improvements. Kaine's my favorite character of all time and one of the things I've always loved about her is she was pretty, but not traditionally pretty if that makes sense so some of these changes feel off. Also I think a lot of people are concerned with them adding new scores instead of keeping old ones, I hope they keep the old ones in with the new. The old OST is what made me try the game, so maybe they're have the option to unlock the OG scores in game. Fingers crossed.
old one had unique character design, proper emotions, eye movements. New one looks ugly, feels more like Nier Automata with Replicant Costume. Automata was great, don't get me wrong, but this remake failed to meet the expectations.
Yes, she's pretty, too bad this thread is people shitting on the game because they want a nostalgia trip, when this game isn't even meant to be a remake, but a version up.
I love how the atmosphere is so much realistic and cold, like in Automata. But yeah, this is different for sure. The new designs looks great anyway and the graphics are top notch !!
Kaine looks pretty in some scenes and in the others she kinda looks like Michael Jackson. I can live with that. BUT her nape is really misaligned. They gotta do smth about the model, either scale her head or connect her neck better. 0:41
I love the new faces, no idea why people are complaining about it, but everyone can have their own opinion. I think it looks great. Though I do prefer Emil’s older model, but it isn’t that big of a change. Super excited!!
1:41 Is it just me or does the old model have way more detail in the clothing? The new model looks kinda off, however the faces are definitely improved. Also the old game seems to have a lot more depth, perhaps because of more aggressive shaders. All the new content looks a bit flat in comparison.
I think the old version used 3D model to build every piece of clothing. And now they use mapping pasted on the body model instead. That explains why the old version has more wrinkles on the clothing but less detail on a plane (like the bandage)
3:03 I miss the old _-undies-_ graphics :( Jokes aside it's really good to see the improvement in graphics. However, I think the creepiness vibe on emil's mask is better in the older version.
why do i feel like kaine lack some kind of emotions compared to the older one, she looks more angry (or smth, I'm bad with words) before. and also 3:03 got nerfed? that's important to her character.. emil's 2nd form kinda lacking details too, i prefer the older one for him. others are fine, I'm looking forward to the remaster/remake, can't wait to cry again.
I would say that they are rather more realistic proportions, the old model is somewhat forced in the way it handles certain curves and lines. They are also roughly the same size when viewed from afar. Also certain old models can be seen with more emotions, especially anger, because the modeling lines are much straighter and harder, while the new realistic models are softer, which naturally lowers a certain intensity in the expressions.
They made the girls look too cute! Kaine's eye color totally changed, the eyes in general seem more cartoony, and Emil's head looks dirtier in original. They are also conspicuously whiter, they were more tan originally. That said, the game still looks great overall so I'm not totally dissing it.
I think is related to character style. The new one seems close or used Automata as references. I'm not so sure but I think they might be using a different team for character designer.
@@JohanIngeborg strange, my feeling is the old ones were generic. Pretty similar faces everywhere and all with this kinda Final Fantasy look to them. Personally I think the new ones are def improved, as they now have an original art style and don't look like characters in any other game except for Nier:Automata, which is part of the franchise anyway. Yes, they seem more doll-like. Each of them. But doesn't this fit?
It's not that the characters are whiter, it's that games in those days had a gross dark filter over them to make up for the fact that Lighting was a shitstorm to work with. It's why games like Resident evil 4 and 5 are buggershit brown, but take off the filter and the game world becomes a vibrant landscape.
I've always loved NieR despite it's many flaws. It was one of the first games I got on the PS3. And I'm tbh so hyped for this since they are using Automata's engine and updating the combat. Nier Automata was perfection as a whole but I love the originals story a lot more. The superior story of the first combined with everything Automata did right, is gonna equal an amazing game!
Japanese devs do seem to have a habit of making their characters look very young or have a "baby face" the remake of shadow of the colossus a good example
@@tomrichards1764 its what japanese wants. They wanted the game to be successful! Not like western game like tlou2. Their face got worse and worse even though is detailed. talk about worshipping ugly faces
Nier looking like 9S will bother me. The producer for Automata showed during the Masterline Statue interview that he thinks of 2B, 9S and A2 as Nier, Emil and Kainé, respectively. So it's Emil who should look like 9S, I'd say. Hopefully it's just an artstyle change and they don't try to justify it. Kainé's face makes sense at least. According to the lore, A2 was designed after Kainé, and 2B after A2, so they all should look alike.
I think the whole reason for Kainè's redesign is due to a line in NieR: Automata in which Emil states that 2B looks a lot like Kainè They were trying to get her close but not quite identical to 2B in appearance in this Remaster
I just hate the new Kaine so much. Seriously, they dolled her up so much SHE LOST HER GOTH MAKE-UP. look at the damn comparisons. She had dark lipstick with dark eyeliner... remake: PINK.
consistent differences: the human characters now have anime-shaped faces like automata had (like at 4:35. kaine has a shorter jaw here) the movement speed is more dynamic like in automata (because seriously, the originals had the stiffer movement) emmisive materials. ie: glowing surfaces
Kainé new eyes are way less expressive, but new graphic is decent in 2021. I think that the most important thing for the remake are quality of life changes like combat and a bit of gameplay. The game was amazing in storytelling and bad/meh in almost everything else. I want to platinum this so bad.
I do think the remake looks better, but I also feel like some good things were lost, like some of the color variety and saturation. Everything has a bluish grey tint to it now. It also seems like the character designs have moved slightly away from a gritty realistic design and closer to an anime design. The faces are prettier sure, but some of the texture and detail is lost. In the end, I think it will be a positive change. The original didn't seem super confident in its art style, but this dreary atmosphere and doll-like anime character design feels distinctly NieR to me.
Only thing I dont actually like is Kaine's eyes. In the original they, maybe unintentionally, had a mad glint all the time, which really fit. Here they seem alot softer
Anyone else think all the new female faces look a bit weird? Like I think they went a bit too "cute" on the new faces while the original and automata went for "mature"
I kind of don't like the lighting in the new version and the tone is so cold. I mean, I know it's a dark game but those warm tones gave it some life. The updated characters are really good though, especially Nier
@@inyrui Yeah, the color is more cohesive in the remake. The materials just look super bland. Whereas the original's materials had more reaction to lighting but not necessarily realistic. I don't know that I would've released this comparison video though if they weren't planning on pushing the graphics more.
This is just my opinion but, you can see that most video games nowadays usually stick to one colour for a specific tint, the original had somewhat of a yellow and greenish tint making it hard on the eyes to adjust to sometimes. The new one may look bland in comparison but I'm glad they did that way, they're sticking to one colour for aesthetic and by colour theory and logic of the game, making it pale just gives me this feeling of emptiness and somewhat pureness in it.
I gotta admit whilst the newer version definitely has better graphics it kinda lakes the charm and uniqueness of the original, the remade version looks like a generic anime to me. Edit: just realised the twitter mob are gonna lose their minds when they see Kaine's incredibly revealing outfit.
I prefer the new style, but there definitely is charm to the janky nostalgic 8th gen look of the original, as well as the more realistically proportioned characters
I honestly like the new look of the game. Nier lost his anime hair gel thank god. Although less colorful it shows the stark apocalyptic setting of Nier. However, I really hope they're able to capture the feelings in Popola. Also, I swear if Kaine isn't voiced by Laura Bailey I'm going to scream like 9S on the bridge.
I feel like Kainé is someone else. They changed her eyes color entirely, and made her look even younger somehow, softer or something. To me she's almost closer to Drakengard's Zero than Kainé. But hey, we'll see how it turns out.
This may be surprising, but its based off the original concept. Remasters are usually like that. I understand the nostalgic attachment to the way things used to look.
Honest opinion incoming. Overall, I think the remake looks amazing. They've already shown some gameplay a while ago and it's clear they've impoved it a lot so we've got that part covered too. The graphics look great. The colors are clearly less warm to adjust to modern aesthetics (and to Automata), but I think it's the kind of thing you only notice in comparison videos like this but while playing you won't mind it at all. It worked great in automata and it's going to work great for this too. The character models also look like they've been improved, especially Nier and Yonah's. Emil might look like a downgrade due to the head looking more smooth & clean but again I think it won't be too noticeable while actually playing the game. I'll be honest, idk how to feel about Kainé's new face. She looks pretty, but also younger and more doll-like. I wish she looked a bit more mature honestly, just like her voice sounds, but i might also be partial due to playing Gestalt, so papa Nier + more mature Kainé made sense together. Maybe younger-looking Kainé makes more sense for brother Nier. Either way, can't wait to hear her curse like a sailor every 5 seconds again. Best girl. I do feel like this brother Nier looks /really/ young too, which I wasn't expecting (i always thought brother Nier looked like a mid to late teens kind of character, while I feel like in the remake he looks like hes barely in his early teens) but that's not necessarily bad, just surprising. Soundtrack's amazing as always, though the new versions of the songs might take some time to get used to. Honestly I hope they give us a way to switch from brother Nier to papa Nier so that western and Japanese fans that loved Gestalt can also experience papa Nier's story in HD, not just brother Nier's. I just feel like there's a different kind of desperation to a father fighting to save his darling daughter compared to a brother fighting to save his sister. I'm going to miss that. (...Though on the other hand, if you've ever read any of the extra stories that weren't in the game itself, brother Nier has done some really desperate shit for Yonah's sake, including prostituting himself to a slimy old man just to be able to pay for her medicine, so I guess that makes up for it...) But at this point I'm just rambling. I love this game with all my heart. Has anyone else preordered the collector's edition of the remake as soon as it was announced or is it just me? I can't wait!
Much narrower colour spectrum with a lot less contrast between the lights and the darks in the scene. Shadows no longer look as good as they did in the older game and everything just seems greywashed. A lot less vibrance and smaller details lost as a trade off for nicer models. Emil's face no longer looks as nice without the harsher shading.
Also. Unrelated, however: Bioware: we are going to edit out Miranda's but shots because reasons. Yoko Taro: HAHA! Kaine in lingerie go brrrrrrrrrr God bless this man.
The color palette and tone is more desaturated. It looks like they're making its art style match Nier: Automata's grey look.
what the original's hardware cannot do: dynamic lighting.
if it had dynamic lighting the game doesn't need to slap a consistent hue to an area to simulate daylight/dark area.
you can see this at its best at 2:11
@@TheHammerGuy94 cleverr I like that.
I notices that as well but as mentioned above. The lightning system is different. So ots to be expected. Still looks really good.
@@jehuty8839 this way you can see every model’s literal true colors.
Like what ANG21 said, there's probably going to be some sort of mod or reshade for the pc version that restores NieR's PS3 shading.
Left: When Yoko Taro was a Cloud fan.
Right: Yoko Taro is now a Sephiroth believer.
cloud simps vs average sephiroth enjoyer
This is somewhere magical between update, remaster, and remake. NieR forever.
It's amazing. When they said update, I was expecting the bare bones.
This is blowing my expectations out of the water.
Just as planned I suppose.
NieR forever is my new slogan man fuck i love this series
Yeah, it's similar to the Return to Arkham and Saints Row Third. Lots of new assets, not just an upscale with fixed aliasing and lighting.
Imagine stanning a coomer game. Males be like
@@cleigh3796 ???
I can finally cry in 4k.
Out of all the new models, my favourites are devola and popola. They look STUNNING
Well, those are models from Automata.
@@Hato1992 no it’s not, they actually look different
@@alia020501 I don't see a difference from those short videos.
@@Hato1992 if you actually looked at them side by side they look different. They have similar features like I noticed the noses are the same but these models do look different.
really? i thought the Replicant Version looked better but well different tastes would be boring if everybody would like the same things
Now go remake Drakengard and show us the potential it could've had! Lmao
we can only hope that’s next man
You know you're not wrong, I would love to see a remake of the trilogy.
@@Senji_223 Right? It would be amazing to see what it could truly be. The trilogy had great characters and a good story, but the gameplay aged HORRIBLY and let's be honest, gameplay wasn't really good to begin with, imo. But, imagine if Yoko Taro teamed up with Platinum again, oh my godddddddddd, the gameplay would more than likely be amazing!
@@_Glamor yeah man one day
@@_Glamor i think platinum even had like a scrapped drakengard game where you control a dragon and also have ground combat maybe they could reuse assets and gameplay from that it’d be amazing
I JUST REALIZED THAT THE ANCIENT OOGA BOOGA PEOPLE ARE WHERE THE DESERT MACHINES IN AUTOMATA GOT THEIR CLOTHES FROM!
You noticed that NOW? lol
Good on you^^
Fuck'n hell
Dude your right, didn't think about that.
"Ooga booga people" lmao
damn the origal still age like fine wine.
Not the gameplay tho
@@jonathancummins6234 It's fine. Not the best character action game in existence, but way better fighting mechanics than something like witcher 3.
@@Sultansekte Whaaaa??? Witcher 3 takes some getting used to but the gameplay is pretty solid.
@@bruhgator i really like the game, don't get me wrong and i finished it on the highest difficulty. But personally i would ranked the movement and fighting in this game very low. Didn't enjoy the fighting, cause it didn't felt responsive, no real control about geralts animation and like 0 hit feedback.
In that regard i found the Nier 1 fighting way better. Not incredibly good, it's very simple. But it didn't feel that clunky like witcher 3. And there isn't that much decision making in the witcher fights. After 1 hour you know the whole game, there are no new mechanics or even enemy patterns. You get still different weapons and magic spells in Nier, which feels very different from each other and give some experimental decisions.
For such a praised game like witcher 3, too less people analyse that fighting system. I don't want to compare 2 very different games here, only the fighting system and the bad reputation of nier 1. Which is decent compared to most western fighting systems.
@@Sultansekte Yeah thats totaly valid tbh, I think the Witcher 3 does feel quite clunky and the weight of Niers gameplay makes it pretty satisfying.
0:31 nier lost his hair gel
That is definitely a good thing
is that young neir? I haven’t play the original
@@michaelnguyen6891 There were two versions of the game, one where Nier was a father (Only this one was released in the west) and one where he was a brother. This is a redo of the second version, where he is younger and thank Yoko Taro that he lost that gel...
He looked like an old school cyborg 009 character 😂
@@cosmosofinfinity Why a good thing? Crazy hair is better than normal hair.
Never played replicant but platinumed automata so really really looking forward to this. Looks great
Plat isn't doing Replicant unfortunately. But the combat still looks league better than the original.
@Christian Longo and there are some Square Enix dev also helping them, dont know what team they are
@@AgentSapphire i think it’ll be fine. They realized the success of automata so they’re gonna try to keep it similar cause if it ain’t broke... don’t go fu%#*= it up lol
@Christian Longogranted it was an easy platinum but still the current percentage for plat is 30.81 which is actually quite low when notoriously difficult games like nioh have a higher percentage of people platinuming them
very good game
Just when I decide to open two windows to see both video, this one shows up. Nice
Shhhhhhhhhh. The windows, they listensssssssssss.
「10年でここまで進化するのか」って気持ちと「10年前からこんなに綺麗だったのか」って気持ちの同居がすごい
10年を経てキャラたちが若返りしたのが不思議ですねw
ニーアの謎な髪型が納得できる形になったところを評価したい
間違いない
カイネさんとかの顔は昔のままでも結構好きだったけど時代の流れで皆の好みに近ずいたのはリメイク版かもしれない
I think the 2010 Kaine's design has more personality.
I think it's the animation.
She looks more androgynous which is what shes supposed to look like in 2010's design.
Yes, but at the same time 2021 looks kinda hotter
@@akinidingus9703 LMAO!
kaine just looks like cgi zero now lmao
I like the new face models better. The old models had pointy chins which made the whole face look elongated, and the colder color Palette is kinda growing on me too.
its not colder tbh. its accurate.
and had more dynamic.
Yeah, everyone had the same elongated face in the original.
Better than the Michael Jackson doll looking
You mean the new model has pointy chin but the old one has elongated facial structure.
あんまり変わらんだろうと思っていたら、少年ニーアとかヨナの髪型、長さが結構変わっているんですね
イラストに近いデザインになったよね
nani
They did the impossible: Made the game even more colorless xD
Yeah, the old one had a warmer tone. I wonder why they didn't keep it in backgrounds to intentionally give a bit more to give contrast with the characters. Same for some of the darker or more colorful clothes, the new version really go for that cold and monotone art direction. Not in a bad way, but it make me wonder how it would look under other direction choices that give more place to contrasts.
I like it...the story wasn't supposed to be colorful...
Basically just a cash grab with cheap graphics.
@@mrlionX the original wasn´t even colorful, that´s why it´s hilarious that now it is even more colorless.
@@makotheshark3365 cash grab? wouldn't call it that yes they toned down the colorfullness but improved on the graphics and reworked the entire gameplay it's more like Automata now which was highly praised
i don't like square enix these days but compared to other stuff they Remastered like KH or older FF titles this is everything but not a cash grab
Kaine and Yonah and Nier all have interchangeable face models now
Everything looks so beautiful 😭😭 Can't wait to get depression in HD 😭
It ok we all delete our existent at the end anyway
The original was also HD.
@@ResistanceForever I was using older TV that was kinda blurry back when I played the original, now I have a bigger, better TV that's crystal clear and could actually show every little details of the game for me. So yeah, it wasn't HD for me before but it will be once this got released. Good for you that it was HD for you even back then.
@@rei1200 exactly. these people just dont want to appreciate true colors. They want an urine looking one to make the game not selling well.
Bro ia that Sans the little robot
I gotta be that person. The green yellow tone was ugly and had to go. The colour isnt gone, they just went towards a more blue palette (which people sometimes register as grey I guess) and the super saturated bits have been toned down Thank God. It ultimately works better, especially since the battle mechanics are coded by reddish tones.
I think that Nier gestalt and replicant were meant to look quite grimy and dirty, at their core they are a parody of traditional jrpg's so they purpousely had that green lighting. Though the original still exsists and I wouldnt want my remake to be a carbon copy of the original.
Green is my most hated colour when it comes to filtering, so I'm more than happy it's gone.
@@acolddarkgentlebruh8205 Yeah that's totally reasonable and I see why people are glad to see it go even if I am on the other side of the fence.
I agree, this remake has done a good job of taking artistic decisions from the original and giving them more consideration than before.
I like how the encounter with Emil's sister is now almost totally monochromatic, because it gives extra attention to those big red eyes that she has. It not only gives the scene an overall more medical and sanitary impression that ties into Emil's backstory as an experiment, but doubles down on the overall cold atmosphere of the story moment as a whole. We need more remakes from this studio.
I never played Nier gestalt but watching this trailer comparison some scenes are more interesting/appealing in the old version mainly because of the color palettes. I think there are quite a few like me who get bored with "realitistic" washed out colors, even though it probably fits thematically. I don't really need realitic lighting and color in a fantasy based entertainment, even if it's well done. I rather watch an well animated Anime dragon than a high budget Hollywood CG dragon anytime (for example). But when playing the game I'll be totally fine in this case, because the character design is still interesting. ... Anyway, I am much more bothered that they didn't improve the animation.
Not to be that guy, but isn't that kind of important to Kaine's character at 3:04? It looks censored in the remake.
True
the best part of the game :/
Ill be playing for the 1st time with this new release, im so curious about the outfit does it get explained or is it just creative direction of the design team?
@@d_shuffles There is a reason for it
they got rid of her magnum dong T_T
I have only played Automata, so it's interesting to see both versions of Replicant like this. The old one didn't age poorly at all and the new one is simply gorgeous! I think the desaturated new version will contribute to enhancing all the depressive feels xD
I'm happy I get to see Devola's curly hair from the old concept art. And from what I've seen, I'm pretty sure these redesigns are probably more faithful to the concept art than the one from ingame of PS3. You can see it if you compare the redesigns of Nier and Devola with the concept arts. Orrrrr they just wanna make it consistent with the art style of automata :)
エミール「なんかずるくないです？」
白「それ」
他がだいぶ変わってるから逆になんか安心するわｗ
エミールは可愛さが半減したと思う
少し離れ目で目が小さくなったから
This is just a preview. Let's just hope that 1.5 will better in everything.
Opinion, I much prefer the new one. Arguably when it comes to graphics it would most likely get higher sales if there's a new person that has no knowledge in NieR, OR really likes this type of graphic. The twins are pretty accurate imo, since they're androids, they need to look a bit more "attractive" than the majority of the Replicants. Gameplay wise by watching the trailers it improved by a lot. While a lot of people keep complaining that the new colours look "washed", I actually like it. It doesn't sting my eyes nor the lighting is too harsh. For a game that's depressing, esthetic is not exactly the main point there, but the story. Facial expression, I'll pass on it for now because there's not much to see tbh. Personally excited for the music, to see if they made it more impressive or worse.
Am I the only one who prefers the remastered version? It's sad to see people complaining about it
People will always find a reason to complain about something.
People who are happy about this game comment less than people pissed
I'm sure there will be mods that end up swapping in the old character models, music, along with a reshader, so they probably should just not. The improved framerate and gameplay is worth far more, since that what really hinders the original.
It's just a very vocal minority nitpicking rather than giving actual complaints really. Don't mind them, this remaster/remake is already amazing the more they show it.
I think a lot of us are just worried about the outcome. The combat definitely needed updating, as did visuals, but it feels weird to drastically change faces shapes so much. Like why is Kaine's nose suddenly so much shorter? And why is everyone suddenly so pale? I get it's a style change, but they could have still kept the overall face shape with major improvements. Kaine's my favorite character of all time and one of the things I've always loved about her is she was pretty, but not traditionally pretty if that makes sense so some of these changes feel off.
Also I think a lot of people are concerned with them adding new scores instead of keeping old ones, I hope they keep the old ones in with the new. The old OST is what made me try the game, so maybe they're have the option to unlock the OG scores in game. Fingers crossed.
2:52 Who else thinks Devola looks pretty?
on the left that is, new one is ugly
old one had unique character design, proper emotions, eye movements. New one looks ugly, feels more like Nier Automata with Replicant Costume. Automata was great, don't get me wrong, but this remake failed to meet the expectations.
@@blueice1364 especially the desert location just a lazy copypaste and faces looks horrible
Yes, she's pretty, too bad this thread is people shitting on the game because they want a nostalgia trip, when this game isn't even meant to be a remake, but a version up.
@@herb2627 too bad people shitting on low quality downgraded version
I love how the atmosphere is so much realistic and cold, like in Automata. But yeah, this is different for sure. The new designs looks great anyway and the graphics are top notch !!
FINALLY SEEING KAINE IN HD. My life is complete. I can now sleep in peace.
The original was also HD.
より設定イラストに寄った感じになったね
デボルのもふもふ感が再現されていて嬉しい
I don't know what exactly it is but there is something charming about the 2000s lighting tech in the old games.
Yonah's face and expression really deliver, she looks sooooo SAD I actually can't help but hug my monitor just to say everything will be alright.
Quiet nerd
Yonah must be protected at all costs
Its nier. Nothing will be alright.
she's more expressionless and unrealistic in the remake
@@BoomKatz Get your nostalgia goggles off, she looks better.
Kaine looks pretty in some scenes and in the others she kinda looks like Michael Jackson. I can live with that.
BUT her nape is really misaligned. They gotta do smth about the model, either scale her head or connect her neck better.
0:41
AMAZING REMAKE!!! Thanks for video!)
It's not remake
@@maskva-u6f :D
I love the new faces, no idea why people are complaining about it, but everyone can have their own opinion. I think it looks great. Though I do prefer Emil’s older model, but it isn’t that big of a change. Super excited!!
They all look more dolland childish. I feel like every main character is a 10 yo and I really don't like this choice of design.
ＰＳ４の方で可愛くなったキャラもいるんだけど、なんというか厳しい環境の中生き抜いてきた感じが無くなってしまった
よう思えてならない。綺麗なんだけど人形めいているというか。個人的に好みはＰＳ３の方だな。
事実人形なので合ってるようにも思います。
・・・実際人形なんだよなあ
Well that're some bangin' royalty-free tunes
The New running animation made the game more tense as it is. I'm loving it.
1:41 Is it just me or does the old model have way more detail in the clothing? The new model looks kinda off, however the faces are definitely improved.
Also the old game seems to have a lot more depth, perhaps because of more aggressive shaders. All the new content looks a bit flat in comparison.
Nah, I think it's lighting fault. Look at 0:41, remastered bandage on the neck looks like have more details too.
See also 2:09.
I think the old version used 3D model to build every piece of clothing. And now they use mapping pasted on the body model instead. That explains why the old version has more wrinkles on the clothing but less detail on a plane (like the bandage)
@@j8232123 I think it may be bumpmapping.
@@TofuSG98 that's the word I wanted to say. thanks
Now feel depressed with High End textures
3:03 I miss the old _-undies-_ graphics :(
Jokes aside it's really good to see the improvement in graphics. However, I think the creepiness vibe on emil's mask is better in the older version.
there's something is missing, hmm .., but it was important?
血色悪いカイネさん好きだったな
石化使う時のエミールとか凄い美少年になってそう
透明感増したな
期待してる
why do i feel like kaine lack some kind of emotions compared to the older one, she looks more angry (or smth, I'm bad with words) before. and also 3:03 got nerfed? that's important to her character..
emil's 2nd form kinda lacking details too, i prefer the older one for him.
others are fine, I'm looking forward to the remaster/remake, can't wait to cry again.
Wow...
lmao, I understood what ya meant by nerfing.... xD
lmao i didn't notice 3:03, that's true man, they nerfed kainé can't believe it
I would say that they are rather more realistic proportions, the old model is somewhat forced in the way it handles certain curves and lines. They are also roughly the same size when viewed from afar. Also certain old models can be seen with more emotions, especially anger, because the modeling lines are much straighter and harder, while the new realistic models are softer, which naturally lowers a certain intensity in the expressions.
@@mythicalsalmon3621 they look more like supermodels
Just gotta say that Voices track you picked for this video was perfect....
What song is it?
They made the girls look too cute! Kaine's eye color totally changed, the eyes in general seem more cartoony, and Emil's head looks dirtier in original. They are also conspicuously whiter, they were more tan originally. That said, the game still looks great overall so I'm not totally dissing it.
Yeah, the original had a certain grittiness to it that i don't see in the new one. Was a big part of the charm, in my opinion
I think is related to character style. The new one seems close or used Automata as references. I'm not so sure but I think they might be using a different team for character designer.
Yeah, old ones had much more character in it, while new are kinda like generic anime girls. Deff underage.
@@JohanIngeborg strange, my feeling is the old ones were generic. Pretty similar faces everywhere and all with this kinda Final Fantasy look to them. Personally I think the new ones are def improved, as they now have an original art style and don't look like characters in any other game except for Nier:Automata, which is part of the franchise anyway.
Yes, they seem more doll-like. Each of them. But doesn't this fit?
It's not that the characters are whiter, it's that games in those days had a gross dark filter over them to make up for the fact that Lighting was a shitstorm to work with.
It's why games like Resident evil 4 and 5 are buggershit brown, but take off the filter and the game world becomes a vibrant landscape.
I've always loved NieR despite it's many flaws. It was one of the first games I got on the PS3. And I'm tbh so hyped for this since they are using Automata's engine and updating the combat. Nier Automata was perfection as a whole but I love the originals story a lot more. The superior story of the first combined with everything Automata did right, is gonna equal an amazing game!
Ironically the original looks better in some cases. The character's faces mostly looked more mature.
Japanese devs do seem to have a habit of making their characters look very young or have a "baby face" the remake of shadow of the colossus a good example
@@tomrichards1764 Yeah, it's not just the devs. Look at all the anime and school girls.
some lighting effects are also better in the original id say
If by mature is elongated chin then you are right.
@@tomrichards1764 its what japanese wants. They wanted the game to be successful! Not like western game like tlou2. Their face got worse and worse even though is detailed. talk about worshipping ugly faces
Kudos for that ending 😏
Let's say it's a reward for those who manage to watch entire video :D
Kaine's face looks more serious and angry in the original version but the remaster made it even better and more beautiful than ever
So nobody gonna point out how Brother and Kaine look like they got 9S and 2B faces?
possibly reused those models. y'know, Kaine gotta have those polygons
Maybe this is on purpose, to make another link between the games
In some theory, A2 (or say, No.2 series) was "manufactured" based on Kaine's outfit and memories. though it has never been confirmed officially.
Nier looking like 9S will bother me. The producer for Automata showed during the Masterline Statue interview that he thinks of 2B, 9S and A2 as Nier, Emil and Kainé, respectively. So it's Emil who should look like 9S, I'd say. Hopefully it's just an artstyle change and they don't try to justify it.
Kainé's face makes sense at least. According to the lore, A2 was designed after Kainé, and 2B after A2, so they all should look alike.
@@rikamayhem 9s got young nier's clothing 2b got kaine's and a2 got older nier's clothes. or have there been other dlc outfits?
Kaine Look like a complete different person. Will be hard to familiarise to that
It's weird but I kind of think the environments look better in the orignal. It's weird but for some reason I like the originals art more
dont lie.
@@lunascomments3024 I agree with him
Also I miss Papa Nier...
It does pop out better the new one the characters seems to blend.
@@JC-cb8oi Papa NieR was so much better tbh
4:35 Kainé looks so beautiful in the remake. I always thought her original face looked a bit strange.
@Hi_Nu Ver 0 Zero_Tester yes, dude! Haha!
@Hi_Nu Ver 0 Zero_Tester as a huge fan of kaine im honestly on the fence about it
I think the whole reason for Kainè's redesign is due to a line in NieR: Automata in which Emil states that 2B looks a lot like Kainè
They were trying to get her close but not quite identical to 2B in appearance in this Remaster
@@supernova00500 i guess so but ill miss her old bitchy look
両方にそれぞれの良さがあるからどっちもどっちな気がする
thank you for this!! you're sooooo fast!!
No problem ;)
I bought Nier Gestalt for my ps3 recently. I think it’s actually a duty to play both versions
I'm okey with the hero, but I prefer the first kaine (considering also her true nature)
new Kaine looks like she got plastic surgery and works as a gravure idol
I just hate the new Kaine so much. Seriously, they dolled her up so much SHE LOST HER GOTH MAKE-UP. look at the damn comparisons. She had dark lipstick with dark eyeliner... remake: PINK.
@@frogradar For some reason they never get these remakes/remasters right. Such a shame.
Fun fact, the new model is much closer to the concept art created for the original game. That was how Kaine was always supposed to look
1:27 Old Emil >>>>>>> New
カイネさん凄い綺麗になってdod3のゼロに更に似たね。
エミールちょい綺麗になってるの面白いな。でもリメイク前の汚れてる感じのが好きかも
3:04 ....confirmed the junk has been nerfed
consistent differences:
the human characters now have anime-shaped faces like automata had (like at 4:35. kaine has a shorter jaw here)
the movement speed is more dynamic like in automata (because seriously, the originals had the stiffer movement)
emmisive materials. ie: glowing surfaces
カイネは明らかにps3で完成された美しさだったと思ってるのはおれだけ？
正直リメイクのカイネはちょっとって感じなんだよなあ。
分かります
俺も前のが好きだった、新しいのは個性を感じない、ただの美人
I think i preferred emil's second form in the original tho
I said it was because the color has more dynamic than ever before plus with accurate contrast making it like it was too good (the new version).
i think the lighting has more to do with it. in some scenes they look almost identical.
Kainé new eyes are way less expressive, but new graphic is decent in 2021.
I think that the most important thing for the remake are quality of life changes like combat and a bit of gameplay.
The game was amazing in storytelling and bad/meh in almost everything else.
I want to platinum this so bad.
Looking at Devola, I didn't know you can have a glow-up more than once
前作をps4でできるなんて贅沢だ😭
Thanks for making it.
I do think the remake looks better, but I also feel like some good things were lost, like some of the color variety and saturation. Everything has a bluish grey tint to it now. It also seems like the character designs have moved slightly away from a gritty realistic design and closer to an anime design. The faces are prettier sure, but some of the texture and detail is lost.
In the end, I think it will be a positive change. The original didn't seem super confident in its art style, but this dreary atmosphere and doll-like anime character design feels distinctly NieR to me.
Only thing I dont actually like is Kaine's eyes. In the original they, maybe unintentionally, had a mad glint all the time, which really fit. Here they seem alot softer
they using dynamic eyebrows that can change shape with every kaine expression.
The characters in the remaster version look a bit too young. Could be a little bit tougher, IMHO.
Anyone else think all the new female faces look a bit weird? Like I think they went a bit too "cute" on the new faces while the original and automata went for "mature"
I bet yoko taro just like,
"Hey yoko san if we make the character cuter, well get more money!"
Yoko : "okay lets go! For the beer!"
Yoko just like cute girls, that's it lol
edit: even 2b is her main, just because heels
@@mpoi3930 yeah, but even she doesn't look this doe eyed. There still a refiness about her ya know?
@@Gxmwp True true. But anyway, let's wait for the final product released. And i'm ready to cry in 60 fps
7:48 Timestamp for men of culture
It looks so beautiful. I can’t wait to play
I kind of don't like the lighting in the new version and the tone is so cold. I mean, I know it's a dark game but those warm tones gave it some life. The updated characters are really good though, especially Nier
カイネのあの声には前のグラに方が合ってる気がするな
新しいカイネは坂本真綾さん向きの顔してる。
カイネさんの過去や生き方も踏まえて、あの人相と血色の悪さが良かったのに
リメイクされて、ただちょっと口の悪いエロい娘に成り下がった気がする。。。
わかる
わかる
Original has better use of color. The enhanced has better graphics.
i'm actually glad those sickly greens are gone. everything on ps3 was green lol. the greys fit the world much better
@@inyrui Yeah, the color is more cohesive in the remake. The materials just look super bland. Whereas the original's materials had more reaction to lighting but not necessarily realistic. I don't know that I would've released this comparison video though if they weren't planning on pushing the graphics more.
The original looked yellowish like pee. Idk how that is better use of color!
This is just my opinion but, you can see that most video games nowadays usually stick to one colour for a specific tint, the original had somewhat of a yellow and greenish tint making it hard on the eyes to adjust to sometimes. The new one may look bland in comparison but I'm glad they did that way, they're sticking to one colour for aesthetic and by colour theory and logic of the game, making it pale just gives me this feeling of emptiness and somewhat pureness in it.
7:55 Dunno why you even have to add this, but I noticed how they nerfed them a bit.
Great comparison. I go against the grain, apart from the frame rate and the improved gameplay, I prefer the original.
I gotta admit whilst the newer version definitely has better graphics it kinda lakes the charm and uniqueness of the original, the remade version looks like a generic anime to me.
Edit: just realised the twitter mob are gonna lose their minds when they see Kaine's incredibly revealing outfit.
I prefer the new style, but there definitely is charm to the janky nostalgic 8th gen look of the original, as well as the more realistically proportioned characters
I think it's supposed to look like an anime
Finally i found the original version of Nier Replicant and not the Gestalt one. Thank you
リメイクの方が出血抑えられてるな
やっぱり昔より規制が厳しくなったのかな
I remembered the original looking fine so I didn't think v1.22 looked especially amazing but side by side I can definitely tell how better it looks.
もはや別人
画像は綺麗だけど個性的な顔がなくなったのは残念
Coming from someone who never played the original, I kinda prefer its look and camera placement over the remake.
しかしすべてが美しいな、本当に
I honestly like the new look of the game. Nier lost his anime hair gel thank god. Although less colorful it shows the stark apocalyptic setting of Nier. However, I really hope they're able to capture the feelings in Popola. Also, I swear if Kaine isn't voiced by Laura Bailey I'm going to scream like 9S on the bridge.
デボルが可愛くなりすぎよ
カイネさんも元が良かった分、とびきりの美人になっちゃって
00:31 luckily I played the Gestalt version, this haircut in the original Replicant is horrible.
Weiss (the book) isn't looking very good. Hes only got one colour in the remake. Silver.
Im surprised more people are not up in arms about the Bulge being gone.
Kainee looked like a matured woman, now she looks like an overgrown child.
I see what you did there
she looks like a doll
She is 17
She is not a mature woman to begin with
@@_greenrunner_ half of her body isn't hers tho
@@BrosL0L what does that have to do with being 17? She’s still 17, and every part of her IS hers it’s just being possessed by the shade inside her.
Why is the remade characters so pale?
White is best lol
@@Lilithsblackm00n That would explain the shift to more gray environments too. And the art style change of the eyes.
I feel like Kainé is someone else. They changed her eyes color entirely, and made her look even younger somehow, softer or something.
To me she's almost closer to Drakengard's Zero than Kainé. But hey, we'll see how it turns out.
This may be surprising, but its based off the original concept. Remasters are usually like that. I understand the nostalgic attachment to the way things used to look.
It surprised me too, but looking at her official art, age etc. This new version makes more sense. She's not meant to be a grown woman.
Honest opinion incoming.
Overall, I think the remake looks amazing. They've already shown some gameplay a while ago and it's clear they've impoved it a lot so we've got that part covered too.
The graphics look great.
The colors are clearly less warm to adjust to modern aesthetics (and to Automata), but I think it's the kind of thing you only notice in comparison videos like this but while playing you won't mind it at all. It worked great in automata and it's going to work great for this too.
The character models also look like they've been improved, especially Nier and Yonah's. Emil might look like a downgrade due to the head looking more smooth & clean but again I think it won't be too noticeable while actually playing the game.
I'll be honest, idk how to feel about Kainé's new face. She looks pretty, but also younger and more doll-like. I wish she looked a bit more mature honestly, just like her voice sounds, but i might also be partial due to playing Gestalt, so papa Nier + more mature Kainé made sense together. Maybe younger-looking Kainé makes more sense for brother Nier. Either way, can't wait to hear her curse like a sailor every 5 seconds again. Best girl.
I do feel like this brother Nier looks /really/ young too, which I wasn't expecting (i always thought brother Nier looked like a mid to late teens kind of character, while I feel like in the remake he looks like hes barely in his early teens) but that's not necessarily bad, just surprising.
Soundtrack's amazing as always, though the new versions of the songs might take some time to get used to.
Honestly I hope they give us a way to switch from brother Nier to papa Nier so that western and Japanese fans that loved Gestalt can also experience papa Nier's story in HD, not just brother Nier's.
I just feel like there's a different kind of desperation to a father fighting to save his darling daughter compared to a brother fighting to save his sister. I'm going to miss that.
(...Though on the other hand, if you've ever read any of the extra stories that weren't in the game itself, brother Nier has done some really desperate shit for Yonah's sake, including prostituting himself to a slimy old man just to be able to pay for her medicine, so I guess that makes up for it...)
But at this point I'm just rambling. I love this game with all my heart.
Has anyone else preordered the collector's edition of the remake as soon as it was announced or is it just me? I can't wait!
Much narrower colour spectrum with a lot less contrast between the lights and the darks in the scene. Shadows no longer look as good as they did in the older game and everything just seems greywashed. A lot less vibrance and smaller details lost as a trade off for nicer models. Emil's face no longer looks as nice without the harsher shading.
Did you atleast play with color in shader like reshade or something? Or like everything. narrower chroma and luma? Are you fking kidding me?
Also. Unrelated, however:
Bioware: we are going to edit out Miranda's but shots because reasons.
Yoko Taro: HAHA! Kaine in lingerie go brrrrrrrrrr
God bless this man.