Ive had mine for 4 days, Ive never hated anything or anyone like I hated OT for the first 3hrs session I spent with it. Now I've got it doing stuff i'm obsessed with it, OBSESSED!!!
First to answer your question from "setting slices" section - full sample vs slices, and that glitchy thingy - it all depends on your settings, but the reason it works in this scenario is that you have set time stretch algo on auto, and enabled slice - when you create a grid, you get perfect 16 slices that are also fully stretched to fit the grid of 16 steps. Try switching the stretch off, you are most likely to hear the similar effect. Also, maybe you can try using one-two rather than one, as a trig record option. his gives you option to stop recording off the grid and do some whacky stuff. And ultimetelly, since what you are doing is toggling between scenes, you can set lfo 1 to the slice/start parameter, and lfo 2 (especially if you use custom lfo from the lfo designer) to lfo 1 speed. Then, leave it all at zero. Scene change your lfo 2 speed to the slider, and you will start "shuffling" resampled slices in so many great ways. OFC , experiment with speed and intensity. To top it all, connect Midi to Microcosm and use midi lfo on microcosm parameters like speed, intensity and filter. Or just change algorythms with program changes! Great work btw.
Thank you!!!! Min 16:30. I was driving myself crazy thinking I was doing something wrong when setting up my OT. Every time I turned off my OT my slices would get all messed up. I’m glad that you mentioned that you have to go into the audio editor and reset your slices every time you turn on your OT. I thought I was messing up my settings every time and have spent hours trying to figure out why my slices get all messed up and glitchy every time I turn it off. Now I know I’m not crazy! Thank you!!!!!🙏 I sure wish Elektron would fix this. Maybe it’s not possible to fix?
@@OoraMusic With octatrack we need to learn from a LOT of videos :D in octatrack Mk1 you can click TRACK + ARM and you dont need have that track selected so its quick to record a new take. Maybe you knew that already :D Great video. Thanks!
If you want to have the resampling in time with the live you can set QREC on Rec Setup page 2 to a number of beats so it waits for that time before starting recording and it all stays in sync (thanks to EZBOT for helping me understand this!) On the other hand, having the recording not quantised does give you this nice shifting effect from happy accidents that is such a feature of your lovely music works really well here!
You can also use oneshot record trigs and in options you can activate shift yes to arm the trig (which is helpful to not accidentally activate the recording).. So you can decide during ur session when u want to record with just one shift click
Late to the party, nice demo! 19:49 You can also hold the track button (T7) and press Yes and it will arm just the recording trigs for that track. Super useful, especially if you have multiple recorders and you don’t have to leave step mode to arm.
Great video! Explained it better than many tutorial videos. Is the K-Board for quickly assigning pitch changes to p-locks in the OT? Hooked up via usb?
Signature sound as always, awesome! side question: are you happy with the keith mcmilllen k-board? is it sticky :)? still use it nowadays? or did something else take over? looking for a small midi keyboard for my synths.
If you set record setup 2 to quantize the recording to PLEN you can just press rec3 to record internal to that track and it will quantize the recording so it sounds right triggered on trig one, faster than arm all I think :) didnt know about the FX clear! thats a good one. Also wish there was a way to automatically trigger the slice that would normally play on that step rather than e.g. set slice S9 for the trig 9 manually, so that you can mangle the first half of a loop, then have the 2nd half play usually, but a fast way of doing that because I dont like losing the time setting correct slice. you can kind of do this sort of thing with trigless locks (parameter locks) but not quite
Hi! Great video. Could you please tell me how you connect the midi keyboard and midi controller at the same time with the octatrack. With a midi merger?
Thanks for the video. What is the difference between choosing inputs for your recording on the record 1 page. Ab Cd, or main/ internal vs holding down your one shot rec trig and selecting the inputs from the 3 rec buttons on top? Like what if in the rec 1 page you select to rec main and turn ab cd off. But then you hold down the trig and choose rec 1(ab) which tells the trig to listen to ab. What is the purpose of these 2 ways.
Excellent video as always! Hoping to see Torso T-1 in this combination sometime. Have you tried that? Torso on midi and Octatrack just for audio? That would be great to see how that workflow goes.
Nice video. Just need to know If track 8 is a Thru machine what is the input you use, as you did not say. And is track 3 also a thru track for the 303. What is the input on the OT you use ? Thanks
@@el_dani even I thgt so. But he did not confirm. I asked simply because I use AB. CD. On the OT as thru. My cue out goes into my efx so I was wishing my efx out could go back to the OT and bring that on another track 😜
@jo you can do this but have to sacrifice stereo inputs. I sent the cues out to a hall of Fame reverb then had the return come in on input D and had this as an input to a thru track. I then put a spacialiser effect on the thru to simulate stereo. It worked ok but I’ve decided I’d rather use the internal reverbs in the OT as the advantages of an external reverb just weren’t enough to sacrifice inputs
@@urbancanyons8871 probably you already have a mixer in your studio anyway? so why returning the reverb signal to the OT? there is even a way to build scenes as send-fx, a bit complicated but doable..
"It can be extremely complicated, so let's keep it very simple for now." [11:03]
Greatest Octatrack quote ever.
:)
Ive had mine for 4 days, Ive never hated anything or anyone like I hated OT for the first 3hrs session I spent with it. Now I've got it doing stuff i'm obsessed with it, OBSESSED!!!
Finalmente un video sull'octatrack con i tempi giusti di spiegazione e dimostrazione. Bravissimo
grazie!!!
First to answer your question from "setting slices" section - full sample vs slices, and that glitchy thingy - it all depends on your settings, but the reason it works in this scenario is that you have set time stretch algo on auto, and enabled slice - when you create a grid, you get perfect 16 slices that are also fully stretched to fit the grid of 16 steps. Try switching the stretch off, you are most likely to hear the similar effect. Also, maybe you can try using one-two rather than one, as a trig record option. his gives you option to stop recording off the grid and do some whacky stuff. And ultimetelly, since what you are doing is toggling between scenes, you can set lfo 1 to the slice/start parameter, and lfo 2 (especially if you use custom lfo from the lfo designer) to lfo 1 speed. Then, leave it all at zero. Scene change your lfo 2 speed to the slider, and you will start "shuffling" resampled slices in so many great ways. OFC , experiment with speed and intensity. To top it all, connect Midi to Microcosm and use midi lfo on microcosm parameters like speed, intensity and filter. Or just change algorythms with program changes! Great work btw.
Thanks mate, really good advices , will try this right now!!
@@OoraMusic I must admit I picked this up from Cenk, Dataline himself, and applied to my music in my own way (Lfo1>Lfo2).
Thank you!!!! Min 16:30. I was driving myself crazy thinking I was doing something wrong when setting up my OT. Every time I turned off my OT my slices would get all messed up. I’m glad that you mentioned that you have to go into the audio editor and reset your slices every time you turn on your OT. I thought I was messing up my settings every time and have spent hours trying to figure out why my slices get all messed up and glitchy every time I turn it off. Now I know I’m not crazy! Thank you!!!!!🙏
I sure wish Elektron would fix this. Maybe it’s not possible to fix?
My favorite setup! Nice demonstration :)
Thanks mate, your octa stuff is always amazing!
@@OoraMusic With octatrack we need to learn from a LOT of videos :D in octatrack Mk1 you can click TRACK + ARM and you dont need have that track selected so its quick to record a new take. Maybe you knew that already :D Great video. Thanks!
Y'all are both bonkers with this setup. E.Z.M.P. and OoOoO
If you want to have the resampling in time with the live you can set QREC on Rec Setup page 2 to a number of beats so it waits for that time before starting recording and it all stays in sync (thanks to EZBOT for helping me understand this!) On the other hand, having the recording not quantised does give you this nice shifting effect from happy accidents that is such a feature of your lovely music works really well here!
Thanks!!! EZbot is a great source of ideas!
You can also use oneshot record trigs and in options you can activate shift yes to arm the trig (which is helpful to not accidentally activate the recording)..
So you can decide during ur session when u want to record with just one shift click
thanks for this tip!
Late to the party, nice demo! 19:49 You can also hold the track button (T7) and press Yes and it will arm just the recording trigs for that track.
Super useful, especially if you have multiple recorders and you don’t have to leave step mode to arm.
true!!
So inspiring - wow I need to practice this ! Exciting to see the possibilities and really clearly explained thanks 🙏
thanks!
Thanks for taking the courage to cover this topic!
My pleasure!
Always helps to get another take on the complex functions, EZBOT and CENK have taught me much, but more always helps, cheers!
Ezbot is a true teacher.
Cenk a performer
thanks! both of them are great inspirations!
This is a great demo and information discussion. Thank you!
Your videos are so good! I’m inspired every time I watch one. Thank you!
Glad you like them!
Great video! Explained it better than many tutorial videos. Is the K-Board for quickly assigning pitch changes to p-locks in the OT? Hooked up via usb?
OT has no USB-MIDI… would be interested in that part of the setup aswell. how to integrate the k-board. cheers
I am using a Kenton usb-midi interface for that!
@@OoraMusic absolute genius setup. Wish I’d thought of this when I owned my old Octatrack hahah
This is a great video, i actually understood it
thanks :)
You should always call it downstairs. :) great video
:)
thank you hi from Melbourne Australia best wishes
Same to you!
Nice. So I tried this with my circuit rhythm, totally works as far as resampling with that sample already sequenced. Super easy too
After you get used too it opens a lot of cool ideas
Signature sound as always, awesome! side question: are you happy with the keith mcmilllen k-board? is it sticky :)? still use it nowadays? or did something else take over? looking for a small midi keyboard for my synths.
I only use it with the live performance setup, but lately not too much. Is useful and small, convenient. Not the best surface to play with.
If you set record setup 2 to quantize the recording to PLEN you can just press rec3 to record internal to that track and it will quantize the recording so it sounds right triggered on trig one, faster than arm all I think :)
didnt know about the FX clear! thats a good one.
Also wish there was a way to automatically trigger the slice that would normally play on that step rather than e.g. set slice S9 for the trig 9 manually, so that you can mangle the first half of a loop, then have the 2nd half play usually, but a fast way of doing that because I dont like losing the time setting correct slice. you can kind of do this sort of thing with trigless locks (parameter locks) but not quite
thanks for the tip! and agree with you!!
Hi! Great video. Could you please tell me how you connect the midi keyboard and midi controller at the same time with the octatrack. With a midi merger?
Im using a Kenton midi-usb interface!
Very, very interesting... and nice. Thanks a lot
Glad you liked it!
great video, cool workflow, thx for the inspiration :) i try to emulate this workflow on maschine with jam step sequencing. :)
definitely doable!
@@OoraMusic yes :)
@@OoraMusic The Plugin ChrisGlitch from Bom Shanka Machines does a great job for that :) instant flow
Thanks for the rundown.
BTW, you’re using parameter locks… conditional trigs are something different.
oops, you are right.
Liked and bookmarked!
Awesome thank you!
Thanks for the video.
What is the difference between choosing inputs for your recording on the record 1 page. Ab Cd, or main/ internal vs holding down your one shot rec trig and selecting the inputs from the 3 rec buttons on top?
Like what if in the rec 1 page you select to rec main and turn ab cd off.
But then you hold down the trig and choose rec 1(ab) which tells the trig to listen to ab.
What is the purpose of these 2 ways.
In all honesty I don't really know the difference. I always thought was the same (confusing) result!
Thanks for sharing! How are you using & connecting the OTO Boum? Thanks!
the main out of octa goes into Boum and then into apollo sound card!
@@OoraMusic Thanks!
cool man. thx
thanks man 🤛🏻🙏🏻
:)
Excellent video as always! Hoping to see Torso T-1 in this combination sometime. Have you tried that? Torso on midi and Octatrack just for audio? That would be great to see how that workflow goes.
It is something im planning to do sooner or later!
@@OoraMusic how would that even work? T-1 midi out to midi in of OT and via OT to all the other synths?
ni Maschine+ can do live resampling very good
Nice video. Just need to know
If track 8 is a Thru machine what is the input you use, as you did not say.
And is track 3 also a thru track for the 303. What is the input on the OT you use ?
Thanks
Probably C and D separated
@@el_dani even I thgt so. But he did not confirm.
I asked simply because I use AB. CD. On the OT as thru.
My cue out goes into my efx so I was wishing my efx out could go back to the OT and bring that on another track 😜
@jo you can do this but have to sacrifice stereo inputs. I sent the cues out to a hall of Fame reverb then had the return come in on input D and had this as an input to a thru track. I then put a spacialiser effect on the thru to simulate stereo. It worked ok but I’ve decided I’d rather use the internal reverbs in the OT as the advantages of an external reverb just weren’t enough to sacrifice inputs
So the perfourmer use input A and B. Avalon is input C and Microcosm input D. Of course C D are used Mono.Hope that helps!
@@urbancanyons8871 probably you already have a mixer in your studio anyway? so why returning the reverb signal to the OT? there is even a way to build scenes as send-fx, a bit complicated but doable..
stimming use this live technic to change to new tracks thx..saved
Thanks!!
Anyone else here just because you like the sound of the Octatrak🫡
I am one of those that like octa sound
does it beat the Toraiz SP16?
Never tried the toraiz, but I don't think it has the same resampling on the fly capability
Viva italia !
:)
@@OoraMusic I tested also this wonderful groovebox (respectfully) ua-cam.com/video/uyHjgtkrfzA/v-deo.html
Gosh this looks so complicated 😅
it is, but Ezbot has more structured videos about the technique (and themessydesk about the basics)
This is a rather complex part if you are just approaching Octatrack, but once you get the basics it will come easier.
In English, the T on "listen, listening" is silent.
Thanks, noted.
And the food is way better in italian (and not silent)
Never noted this. Now that you say its extremely strange