Thanks for saving me 200 bucks buddy. I was trying to figure out what the point of Mia was when I watched your video. I use my phone for navigation with either Calimoto or Google. I use the Uclear Motion communicator with my helmet. I thought Mia would work like Android auto does for automobiles and that I'd be able to see my phone's screen on my Guzzi dash. I guess that's not the case at all. Thanks again for sharing this review!
Good points. The navigation of my moto morini xcape has the same issues. No avoidence options, road closures and is subscription based. Luckily it mirrors gmaps on the 7 inch display.
Thanks for the Demo! I just bought the V85tt Travel version and found the Nav App was slow and primitive and thought i was doing something wrong. You're absolutely correct, charging 200 bucks for 1990's GPS technology is not cool. Otherwise, i love the bike and have your videos to thank in part for the choice. Looking forward to more vids from you. Cheers!
Thanks for the review! I am planning on buying a V85 very soon, in fact I was just at Gateway Cycles today looking at them. I wasnt sure which model I wanted to get. I stumbled onto your video while trying to figure out if the Nav system was worth the money. Thanks to you I am going to save some money! I will be cheking out your others videos shortly. This video is 2year old. Do you still like your V85? New sub for a fellow Kentuckian!
I appreciate your review of the MIA. I really liked your phone holder and it's placement too. Can you tell me the brand and if you had to do anything custom for that location? Thanks,
If you already have a music/voice system working as you like it, no, the MIA is not worthy. Another thing I don't like it is the search system, it is impossible for me to find any special place as "John's sports bar", or places like that, I have to enter the address. Also, I cannot place a mark in the MG map and navigate to it. I ended up using Google Maps for roads and Osmand for off road and track following. Great vids, btw. Greetings from Spain.
Hi! Greetings from Spain. I've just bought one v85TT and I agree. The Maps are like they use as a roadbook in rally. Much better Google on the phone and if you have music in your phone...whats the point? The screen probably its bigger than the guzzi's dash.. thx for sharing and apollogies for my poor english if I made many mistakes😅
Bonjour cubbysue, Merci pour ta vidéo, mon anglais n'est pas top, mais je comprends les grandes lignes de ce que tu dis, désolé je suis français 😁😂, merci encore et au plaisir de te voir. Ciao
Is there a Report function in the map app so folks can report issues or closures? Is the map online and updates? Or is it some kind of static offline map? Interesting video. I really like this bike. I have been riding a modified DR650 for 12 years and am starting to want for something different. Scooping up my dads old R1200RT since he stopped riding, but its not the kind of bike I want to ride to work or take short day trips on.
I never saw a report function in the app and the app is all online. I have quit using this Mia after I made this video, so there is a chance that it has improved since then. Either way, I will not use it again.
@Cubbysue…thanks for the video. I have the phone paired and connect to see phone calls and get extra bike data. The challenge I am having is paring my Sena 20 with the bike…what do you do? Put the headset in paring mode then look for it in the MG app? Not seeing it…any tips would be appreciated. I have an iPhone.
Starting at about 3:28 on the video I showed how it worked for mine. I did have to unpair it from my phone first. It kept wanting to keep connecting to my phone instead of the going through the app. Once you do that, it should be visible to connect to. Hope that helps you.
Give them a Chance! They are still working on it. There are still better ones, but I hope, they are still working ... My V85TT is coming Saturday :-))) And please excute my bad english - rolleyes
I understand it does more than navigation but it relies on a smart phone connection through there app. If I'm going to use my smartphones data, Google maps is by far better than the navigation on the app. As for volume control, I use a Cardo in my helmet. I literally just say "hey Cardo, volume up" and it turns up the volume.
I like the MIA app, but def not worth the money. I feel that all it offers can be done directly through the phone and helmet headset. I use a dedicated satnav as the nav on the app is not great. I do like being able to see the bike stats on my phone, but with the dongle on the bike not having it's own GPS, the find my bike is pretty pointless and can't even be used as a security device to find the bike if it gets robbed.
Did you play music through the MIA? It is impossible for me to go to next track or previous track. When I go up/down with the bike's button it skips 4-5 tracks. I can never go to te previous or next track.
Seems underwhelming so thank you for the review! One thing though, how could a navigation system give you directions if it didn't know where you are all the time???
To use the app, you must have your phones location on at all times so it knows where you are....ALL THE TIME. It never stops tracking you. I'm not a fan of that.
@@cubbysue Yes think stand alone GPS unit better idea, but navigation will not work if it does not know where you are. Getting a V85 but not with MIA. Most folks walk around all the time with their phones tracking their location and they dont even know it.
Roam Universal Bike Phone Mount for Motorcycle - Bike Handlebars, Adjustable, Fits All iPhone's, 12, 11, X, iPhone 8, 8 Plus, All Samsung Galaxy Phones, S21, S20, S10, Holds Any Phone Up to 3.5" Wide smile.amazon.com/dp/B01LWDCSIZ/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_7VPBKTJTQMX7Q6SAMVQD This is a phone holder, it's what I use for that phone in the video.
while MOST of the people use the google maps nowadays it is BEYOND me what the MG were thinking with trying to incorporate their own navigation software into the app. such tiny things just spoil the whole experience. now in 2024 they are releasing the new V85tt and there is no way the useless MIA app gets any substantial update. what a shame.
App want your position because it has some activity tracking, which is recorded with some kind of telemetry. You may review it later in the app. Like consumption, altitude, traction intervention, RPMs etc. and you may see it on the map on each spot you travelled. Pity is that is not possible to extract it to some usable form. I hate Here maps because you cannot use point and go function, you have to know exact name of the street which is something for me while standing under sun in gear and googling correct name of street while engine on idle and I am sweating as a pig :D Also it is only a map, not dynamic map with traffic. It is possible to use it only on long way travels where you need to remind when turn left or right in less building density villages. I can’t imagine to use it in city. Sometimes App crashing or not connect to the bike if you switch off the bike... So yes definitely not worth to buy it. I had it with my Travel packet.
Please explain this, I understand that it is not worth $200 BUT is it the MIA problem that the road is closed or the application on the phone is crap? The screen on the bike mirrors your phone , it’s not the bike that doesn’t have the latest navigation traffic or closed roads. Unless of course I didn’t understand everything here. Unless the phone is incapable of receiving updates or has cellular signal the MIA won’t do anymore than being a mirror to your phone. Therefore, I conclude that the application on your phone is at fault
The Mia device connects with the bike and communicates through the app. The app is the problem, it has its own navigation system completely separate from anything on your phone...ie; Google maps. Without cellphone signal it doesn't work. The Mia device works as it should, the app is just awful and it is what is responsible for all the directions.
Ok...but without a phone and data plan, the MIA is what? That's right....worthless. So I'll keep my phone and holder and do everything the MIA can do but better.
Not distracted, you can see down that road for over a mile and where I live, there are days when I am the only traffic on these roads. I am in a rather remote area. I do not drive that way when I go into town. Thank you for the concern though.
Hehehe, do this in liberal toilet bowl NY and you get a Tesla up your tookus. I really need to move to a beautiful red state with beautiful roads for riding. 😤NY sucks !!!
I have a Garmin, too. It is great. I refuse to use Google maps, I personally think that they are terrible. I only use WAZE because it tells you all the speed photo cameras. Yes, we have them on just about every block in NYC. Blue state thieves. Anyway, the Garmin is awesome because you don’t depend on cell phone signal and it also gives you the option to choose your route by selecting hills, back roads, on/off roads, dirt etc. that’s the joy of motorcycling, nobody wants to be on a boring interstate or the fastest route
@@cubbysue pour moi , le plus grand problème de cette moto c'est le bruit dans le casque. J'ai essayé 4 bulles différentes et il y a trop de bruit (turbulences dans le casque).
It would be interesting if there was an official response to your video by MotoGuzzi or Piaggio. It is true app nav sucks. Not accurate or intuitive at all. Most of the time, it does not get me where I want to go..
Thanks a lot for this review, exactly what I needed. I was able to see that the MIA isn't for me. Saved me 200$ champ !
Thank you. Just the sort of review I was looking for before I parted with my cash. Stay safe
Thanks a lot for your explanations !! I am planning on buying a V85TT soon... I probably won't necessary look for a travel version of it anymore.
Hint to app developers - don't name your navigation app Missing In Action
Gracias por su tiempo. Buen resumen
Thanks for saving me 200 bucks buddy. I was trying to figure out what the point of Mia was when I watched your video. I use my phone for navigation with either Calimoto or Google. I use the Uclear Motion communicator with my helmet. I thought Mia would work like Android auto does for automobiles and that I'd be able to see my phone's screen on my Guzzi dash. I guess that's not the case at all. Thanks again for sharing this review!
Good points. The navigation of my moto morini xcape has the same issues. No avoidence options, road closures and is subscription based. Luckily it mirrors gmaps on the 7 inch display.
Thanks mate you just saved me 200 bucks! I realy like your videos. 👍
Glad to hear that!
Thanks for the Demo! I just bought the V85tt Travel version and found the Nav App was slow and primitive and thought i was doing something wrong. You're absolutely correct, charging 200 bucks for 1990's GPS technology is not cool. Otherwise, i love the bike and have your videos to thank in part for the choice. Looking forward to more vids from you. Cheers!
I'm glad you watched the video then. I'm still stuck with mine. Maybe I'll sell it on ebay.
@@cubbysue so will I 🙂bought the used bike together with MIA...
Thanks for the great video. I see it the same way, 170 euros are too much for it.
Greetings from East Frisia (Northern Germany)
dig the tft dash on the v85. That camera angle on gopro is great.
Trying to make better videos. Glad you like it.
@@cubbysue doing good bro, your content is definitely good quality
Do you know how to adjust the headlight vertically? Thanks
Thank you for this informative video. Great shirt and Gadsen flag also.
Thanks for the review! I am planning on buying a V85 very soon, in fact I was just at Gateway Cycles today looking at them. I wasnt sure which model I wanted to get. I stumbled onto your video while trying to figure out if the Nav system was worth the money. Thanks to you I am going to save some money! I will be cheking out your others videos shortly.
This video is 2year old. Do you still like your V85?
New sub for a fellow Kentuckian!
I do still love the V85. They have the blue one at Gateway that I have been debating on for a while.....
I appreciate your review of the MIA. I really liked your phone holder and it's placement too. Can you tell me the brand and if you had to do anything custom for that location? Thanks,
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No modifications needed.
If you already have a music/voice system working as you like it, no, the MIA is not worthy.
Another thing I don't like it is the search system, it is impossible for me to find any special place as "John's sports bar", or places like that, I have to enter the address. Also, I cannot place a mark in the MG map and navigate to it. I ended up using Google Maps for roads and Osmand for off road and track following.
Great vids, btw. Greetings from Spain.
Thank you, I am happy that you like the video.
Hi! Greetings from Spain. I've just bought one v85TT and I agree. The Maps are like they use as a roadbook in rally. Much better Google on the phone and if you have music in your phone...whats the point? The screen probably its bigger than the guzzi's dash.. thx for sharing and apollogies for my poor english if I made many mistakes😅
I'm happy that you got your new V85TT. I hope you enjoy it! Ride safe.
Bonjour cubbysue,
Merci pour ta vidéo, mon anglais n'est pas top, mais je comprends les grandes lignes de ce que tu dis, désolé je suis français 😁😂, merci encore et au plaisir de te voir. Ciao
Bonjour Franck I translated it for him 😃
@@birgitfry6513 Merci Brigit 😀😀😘
Is there a Report function in the map app so folks can report issues or closures? Is the map online and updates? Or is it some kind of static offline map? Interesting video. I really like this bike. I have been riding a modified DR650 for 12 years and am starting to want for something different. Scooping up my dads old R1200RT since he stopped riding, but its not the kind of bike I want to ride to work or take short day trips on.
I never saw a report function in the app and the app is all online. I have quit using this Mia after I made this video, so there is a chance that it has improved since then. Either way, I will not use it again.
@Cubbysue…thanks for the video. I have the phone paired and connect to see phone calls and get extra bike data. The challenge I am having is paring my Sena 20 with the bike…what do you do? Put the headset in paring mode then look for it in the MG app? Not seeing it…any tips would be appreciated. I have an iPhone.
Starting at about 3:28 on the video I showed how it worked for mine. I did have to unpair it from my phone first. It kept wanting to keep connecting to my phone instead of the going through the app. Once you do that, it should be visible to connect to. Hope that helps you.
Give them a Chance! They are still working on it. There are still better ones, but I hope, they are still working ... My V85TT is coming Saturday :-))) And please excute my bad english - rolleyes
There's more to it than the navigation. For example it lets me increase and decrease volume on my headphones using the bike's switchgear.
I understand it does more than navigation but it relies on a smart phone connection through there app. If I'm going to use my smartphones data, Google maps is by far better than the navigation on the app. As for volume control, I use a Cardo in my helmet. I literally just say "hey Cardo, volume up" and it turns up the volume.
I like the MIA app, but def not worth the money. I feel that all it offers can be done directly through the phone and helmet headset. I use a dedicated satnav as the nav on the app is not great. I do like being able to see the bike stats on my phone, but with the dongle on the bike not having it's own GPS, the find my bike is pretty pointless and can't even be used as a security device to find the bike if it gets robbed.
Did you play music through the MIA? It is impossible for me to go to next track or previous track. When I go up/down with the bike's button it skips 4-5 tracks. I can never go to te previous or next track.
Yeah, oddly enough, that was one of the MIA's functions that I never had problems with.
Were other navigation systems informing you about the road closed?
Yeah, Google maps did. I don't know about other apps, I didn't try anything else.
have it on my travel
but I prefer using my phone with a quad lock and tomtom go
much better
Seems underwhelming so thank you for the review! One thing though, how could a navigation system give you directions if it didn't know where you are all the time???
To use the app, you must have your phones location on at all times so it knows where you are....ALL THE TIME. It never stops tracking you. I'm not a fan of that.
@@cubbysue Yes think stand alone GPS unit better idea, but navigation will not work if it does not know where you are. Getting a V85 but not with MIA.
Most folks walk around all the time with their phones tracking their location and they dont even know it.
What gps mount did you use?
Roam Universal Bike Phone Mount for Motorcycle - Bike Handlebars, Adjustable, Fits All iPhone's, 12, 11, X, iPhone 8, 8 Plus, All Samsung Galaxy Phones, S21, S20, S10, Holds Any Phone Up to 3.5" Wide smile.amazon.com/dp/B01LWDCSIZ/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_7VPBKTJTQMX7Q6SAMVQD
This is a phone holder, it's what I use for that phone in the video.
while MOST of the people use the google maps nowadays it is BEYOND me what the MG were thinking with trying to incorporate their own navigation software into the app. such tiny things just spoil the whole experience. now in 2024 they are releasing the new V85tt and there is no way the useless MIA app gets any substantial update. what a shame.
App want your position because it has some activity tracking, which is recorded with some kind of telemetry. You may review it later in the app. Like consumption, altitude, traction intervention, RPMs etc. and you may see it on the map on each spot you travelled. Pity is that is not possible to extract it to some usable form.
I hate Here maps because you cannot use point and go function, you have to know exact name of the street which is something for me while standing under sun in gear and googling correct name of street while engine on idle and I am sweating as a pig :D
Also it is only a map, not dynamic map with traffic. It is possible to use it only on long way travels where you need to remind when turn left or right in less building density villages. I can’t imagine to use it in city.
Sometimes App crashing or not connect to the bike if you switch off the bike...
So yes definitely not worth to buy it. I had it with my Travel packet.
I agree. At least with other navigation apps, I can just tell it to take me to a location with voice commands. Don't need to Google the address.
Please explain this, I understand that it is not worth $200 BUT is it the MIA problem that the road is closed or the application on the phone is crap? The screen on the bike mirrors your phone , it’s not the bike that doesn’t have the latest navigation traffic or closed roads. Unless of course I didn’t understand everything here.
Unless the phone is incapable of receiving updates or has cellular signal the MIA won’t do anymore than being a mirror to your phone. Therefore, I conclude that the application on your phone is at fault
The Mia device connects with the bike and communicates through the app. The app is the problem, it has its own navigation system completely separate from anything on your phone...ie; Google maps. Without cellphone signal it doesn't work. The Mia device works as it should, the app is just awful and it is what is responsible for all the directions.
Ugh they should have used Google Auto/Apple Carplay maps reflected from the phone, not roll their own!
No benefit?? how about not having some clunky holder plus phone on handlebar???
Ok...but without a phone and data plan, the MIA is what? That's right....worthless. So I'll keep my phone and holder and do everything the MIA can do but better.
6:03 right through a stop sign. Don't know if you were distracted by making the video. Be careful out there dude, just saying.
Not distracted, you can see down that road for over a mile and where I live, there are days when I am the only traffic on these roads. I am in a rather remote area. I do not drive that way when I go into town. Thank you for the concern though.
Hehehe, do this in liberal toilet bowl NY and you get a Tesla up your tookus. I really need to move to a beautiful red state with beautiful roads for riding. 😤NY sucks !!!
$200 every two years??? P-U...no way.....Love my Garmin
I'm with you.
I have a Garmin, too. It is great. I refuse to use Google maps, I personally think that they are terrible. I only use WAZE because it tells you all the speed photo cameras. Yes, we have them on just about every block in NYC. Blue state thieves.
Anyway, the Garmin is awesome because you don’t depend on cell phone signal and it also gives you the option to choose your route by selecting hills, back roads, on/off roads, dirt etc. that’s the joy of motorcycling, nobody wants to be on a boring interstate or the fastest route
Peut être que c'est ta barbe qui donne des interférences entre le smartphone et le tableau de bord de la moto 😂🤣
I AN NOT CUTTING THE BEARD. : )
@@cubbysue 🙂👍
@@cubbysue pour moi , le plus grand problème de cette moto c'est le bruit dans le casque.
J'ai essayé 4 bulles différentes et il y a trop de bruit (turbulences dans le casque).
It would be interesting if there was an official response to your video by MotoGuzzi or Piaggio. It is true app nav sucks. Not accurate or intuitive at all. Most of the time, it does not get me where I want to go..
I doubt they would ever worry about what I have to say. Would be nice though.....
6:04 The stop sign ""doesn't apply"" to me in many cases, but at least I'm slowing down