Michael had 1 weakness. No scottie pippen he wouldnt have won 6 undefeated appearances in the finals he would've lost 1 and messed his perfect record up bcz without scottie he would've lost to Utah the 2nd time.
Raw honesty 🤣😂 Hakeem wouldn't have won if MJ didn't retire, but he was one of the best players I've ever seen. Took it for granted at the time, but between him, Stockton and Malone, Ewing, Chuck and Reggie ... Nothing was better than the Eastern Conference playoffs in the 90s!!
@@topspot4834 yea but Tbf and you can’t deny it the bulls did struggle against Hakeem lol he was still hard for them to cover but honestly Michaels legacy is always lowkey untapped just because of his breaks
Hakeem is like like "ahahah we would have murdered Lebron everytime he drove the lane.... like we tried to Jordan....the difference is Lebron would die...wheras Jordan...would get angry and then violate us in unspeakable ways....just ask Isaiah or Dominique"
@@topspot4834 Raw fax....Bulls were 1-6 vs Olajuwon during THE DAMN 3 PEAT. Only a jordan nut hugger would say some dumb shit like that, lol. Jordan was Olajuwon's bitch. Wtf u looking at? Wasn't the games....lol
I never used to feel anything about Lebron really, but as I've watched him, and evolved, I've learned to appreciate just how great he is. That being said, I was privileged to grow up in the Magic/Bird era, which overlapped Jordan. Listen, I'm a Celtics fan. Lifelong. I got nothing in this fight. To this day I've never seen anything like Jordan. It has nothing to do with Lebron. Lebrons an all time great. Anyone who is my age who watched Jordan his entire career knows exactly what I'm talking about. There is nothing like him. Literally, nothing in my lifetime. Ok, that's all...
I’ll say this: if it wasn’t for the Bad Boy Pistons, Michael would not be considered the G.O.A.T. Hulk Hogan beat the hated Iron Sheik and Jordan eventually slayed the hated Pistons. The hero overcoming and defeating the villain is what makes greatness. LeBron never did that. Not once. Neither did Kobe. Neither did Wilt. Neither did Russell. Neither did Kareem. In a way, Magic and Bird both did to each other and that is why they are living legends to this very day. They may both not have the insane stats the rest do, but their rivalry made them great and greater than they would have been without it.
Nash's take really struck me, Jordan used to cause fear in the entire league because literally if you did anything to motivate MJ it was over. Never felt that way about LeBron, never feared him
Pretty hard to ‘fear’ a guy who can’t shoot free throws and a team can leave you open at the 3pt line as a strategy. Also, hard to fear a guy who wears shorts with a suit jacket carrying a man bag…..
That to me is the difference. Jordan didn’t want to beat you. He wanted to humiliate you. He wanted to make sure people would chuckle if your name ever got brought up. LeBron wants to win but he still wants to be friends at the end of the day. Jordan wants you humiliated and laughed at.
LeBron not even top7. Top7 are killers. Larry Bird is killer, MJ is killer, Magic is killer. LeBron is for playground. Even the championship with Cavaliers, the main one I respect, it is other guy that showed valuable support in the finals.
It's never just one thing. Agreed, it's not just the six rings. Btw, the way guys form super teams today and "take their talents" someplace else every other year, I'm not impressed when a guy has rings. For example, Kevin Durant? Sorry, those two rings in Golden State don't impress me. Great, you went to a 73 win team and won? Must have been really tough! LeBron hoping teams any time he feels like his teammates are no longer good? Imagine if MJ went to the Celtics. And when Larry's back got bad, went to the Pistons. Then back to the Bulls. He'd have 12 rings if he wanted.
There's always room in second. let's put MJ in the safe spot, why argue when almost all the greatest are saying MJ is the goat the debate should be, who's in second?. All of that said, we can all put who's in second in our opinion.
@sltschooloftruth4347 or Bron signed with Miami because he knew they would attract players 😂😂😂Bron made the finals with an underperforming team his first go around with Cleveland Mike never made the finals his first 8 years with the Bulls he was stats padding against plumbers 🤣🤣
@@donkrider72caprice The Bad Boy Pistons were also losing until they put a roster together. You forget Jordan was a champion and player of the year in college with no Pippen around bro. Eventually Jordan would win 6 rings, 5 MVP's and 10 scoring titles. Did Pippen do all that for him?
I'm a huge Jordan fan and personally my eyes tell me that Jordan is the Goat. I don't look at stats or rings its really because of his play on offense and defense but also the impact he has on the game.
Your eyes can deceive you. Numbers don’t lie. Lebron made more points in way less shot attempts than Jordan! So he’s a more efficient scorer, he gets way more rebounds, and way more assists. He involves his whole team and Jordan tries to do it all himself. Pippen carried him his whole career and ended up with more rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks than Jordan in every Finals run. Lebron leads in all stats in every Finals run on his own squad. And several times he’s lead in every stat on both squads. There’s no question Lebron is better! Period!
Lebron has longer career than MJ. MJ played only 13 or 14 seasons only. Lebron is playing his 19 season i think. Rules changed alot. MJ is the goat of basketball man. There a lot of 90’s bulls games in youtube. Watch and compare to todays nba. MJ is the goat
i am 48 year old and i watched MJ play through his entire career...and this is what i feel as far as MJ and lebron...i remeber as a fan watching MJ and knowing that i was about to lose especially in the play offs when ntheres only 5 seconds left...the whole world knew who was about to get the ball...and yet you couldnrt stop it..that feeling..i have never felt with lebron..i actually feared MJ..not with lebron..i think theres really no comparison
@@mirak63 team down by 1-3 with 5 seconds and you need a bucket to tie or take the lead. In both playoff and regular season lebron shoots under 20% in that situation. MJ on the other hand shoots 50% which is the same as his fg %. Thats the defintion of clutch
This is such an artificial debate created by the media to get attention as there is a drop in NBA viewers. LeBron is a fantastic player, but he's not even better than Kobe, how can he compare to MJ? I only started watching the NBA because of MJ (in 1989) and since he retired the second time (1998) I've been losing interest year after year. Bball isn't as tough as it was in the 80's and 90's with great defenders and legendary players not as plentiful as they once were. Overprotecting players with new rules created a boring game with weak defenses and 3-point shots. I feel sorry for the new generation that hasn't seen real bball.
Load management is something MJ would have been insulted by if it was ever proposed to him. His mindset of giving his absolute best every time he was on the court is unmatched. He was willing to put his physical and mental sanity in order to win it all, I think Kobe is the only one to share that insane drive. Also MJ never shied away from taking over when a game was on the line, he never disappeared when his number was called upon and when he passed the ball in clutch situations it's because he had carried the team on his shoulders and he recognized that taking that last deciding shot wasn't the best basketball play.
In th '86 1st RD vs BOS, Many remember Jordan's 63 pt game. The very next game, He got outscored by 3 "studs" in an 18 pt season-ending home loss. J Paxson (23 Pts), D Corzine (22 Pts), & D Ainge (20 Pts). In 1988 ECSF, Let's see how Jordan did. G3: scores 3 4th Q points in a 22 point home loss G4: scores 8 4th Q points in a 19 point home loss G5: scores 5 4th Q points in a 7 point loss In 1989, Jordan's Bulls went up 2-1 in the ECF, but then lost 3 in a row. Let's see how he did in those games: G4: Scored 11 points over last 3 quarters in a 6 point home loss G5: Scored 1 4th Q point in a crucial 9 point loss G6: Scored 6 4th Q points in 9 point season ending home loss. In the last 5 minutes, Jordan scored just 2 points, and didn't take a shot in the last 3 minutes of the game. Result? Bulls go home. Jordan made just 9 shots COMBINED over Game 4 and Game 5 (both losses) In the '90 ECF. The Bulls lost all 4 games on the road. Let's see how Jordan did in those games: G1: 3 4th Q points (lost by 9) G2: 5 4th Q points (lost by 9) G5: 5 4th Q points (lost by 14) G7: 9 4th Q points on 10 shots (lost by 19). Jordan scored 0 points in the last 4:50 of game 7.
@@dynamic6645 Assuming this is true I'm sure you're disingenuous self knows why Jordan's output fell. Due to the Jordan rules. Once he had another player who could take away some of the focus from the triple defense there was almost no looking back.
@@dynamic6645 look at you, I bet you researched all day/night looking for a 10 point or less playoff game by MJ only to be disappointed. If you think that equates to LBJ choking in the 2011 finals then what the hell do you consider 88 of LBJ’s teammates outscoring him in playoff games while MJ only had 13 teammates outscore him...
MJ was better, regardless of stats. You can see it just by comparing the two on the court. MJ's movements were so clean and quick compared to all the other big men. He was the perfect storm of size, skill, agility, and leadership. When you're 7 feet tall, you're lumbering and a little awkward. I think 6'5 - 6'6 is perfect for Mike and the type of player he was. Like those fundamentals and his movements put him above pro league. He was a damn art form.
There was legitimate fear when Mike stepped on the court, every single night. The streets were deserted by 5pm PST when Mike played on TNT. Guys were leaving work early to go watch Mike score over 40 points on any given night. The reverence was at biblically epic levels. Tears were literally shed both when Mike retired the first time and finally after his last bucket as a Chicago Bulls player; the crossover on Bryon Russell, and who would forget Elo throwing up his arms in aghast frustration and futility, justifiably so, when Mike nailed the final bucket, winning his 6th and final championship. "if this is the last we see of Jordan, how sweet it is.“ -Bob Costas
@@ssfouryou They totally do not know the fear that MJ struck in his opponents; they were defeated before Mike made a move or took a shot. They'll be on the court paralyzed and spectating in awe as if they were not NBA players. MJs opponents admit to it. I've never heard an opponent of LeBron express fear of him on the court.
Jordan was aesthetically pleasing,a joy to watch.Neither LeBron or Kobe had the athletic grace that Mike had.There is a entertainment factor in today's sports.No player has ever been as beautiful to watch as MJ.
@@carlosvaldez3093 LeBron is hard to play with because he dominates the ball too much he stifles his teammates game.Luka Doncic is like that too.MJ scored a lot but he let his teammates breath.
@@ralphgreenwood2469 Bruh speak on Luka!! Everyone keeps blaming Porzingis(he does deserve a lot blame)but the problem is Luka has the ball in his hands like 90% of the time and it's no exaggeration! He is a stat filler but it is hard to get in the flow when he has the ball so much.
Lebron dunked most of the time on fast breaks jordan dunked in faces in traffic yet lebron is bigger so it should be easier for him to do so but that,s not the case in most cases in the NBA the height difference is six inches. so it was your ability to jump and hang in the air until everyone comes down that was one of his strengths I dont think no one will catch him someone may match him in points and surpass him and they have but no one can score like him he can score when there no. shot but he always found away to score no one did that better that is why he is almost unstoppable he could score wherever he wanted to
There's a story about Jordan playing when he was still at NC. I guess this was like MJ second year and the players were talking about just how good he was even at that time. So, every practice the guys would look on the schedule to see who they had to guard the next day. One day, one of the guys on the team looked at the schedule and saw that he would have to guard MJ, the next day at practice. His teammate said his friend had this sick look on his face all the way home. And as soon as they got back to the dorm, he threw-up all over the place! Lol, now that's FEAR!
@theoburden6592 You really don’t know anything about basketball.. he declared for the draft after his true junior season. Please don’t speak on things you don’t know.
My resonó.. big arsenal of skills. I prefer Pippen handles, are so fluid and smooth. AI had better crossovers. But in general MJ and his skills and atittude..never choke never fear. Great players can lose but they can not choke
Jordan was 6ft 6" shooting guard who dominated the NBA during an era when so many elite shot blocking dominating centers & HOFS roam the middle & they couldn't do anything with him except to hope that they weren't posterized by MJ.
@@user-ci7vu7eo9w Even though the Pistons employed special dirty tactics trying to keep him in check that didn't stop MJ from sweeping them the year the Bulls won their first title.
@@user-ci7vu7eo9w MJ was still dominating on an individual level so much the Pistons came up with "Jordan rules" trying to contain him because they couldn't play him straight up.
4:34 Michael Jordan hitting a stepback in the 90s when it wasn't even popular..... If you think MJ wouldn't adapt to today's game you are absolutely fooling yourself.
Jerry West said it the best. No one has the speed, jumping ability, lateral movement, hangtime, knowing how to create space, and has the large hands along with the ferocious competitiveness as Michael Jordan. There have been some copycats since MJ retired but no one will ever match the greatness of MJ
He also had ridiculous stamina and motor, especially in the 80s. He was the most complete athlete in NBA history if you add everything up. He was also very strong and durable.
if you really wanna know what truly separates Jordan from LeBron. It's their mentality and killer instinct. Jordan never had a finals meltdown like LeBron in 2011. I've seen LeBron quit not only on his teammates but himself plenty of times. He doesn't hustle back on defense and he constantly take plays off. I've honestly never was a fan and never will be a fan of LeBron the basketball player.
All of this. He’s been doing that passive approach when losing, quitting etc at times when things aren’t going well. Then you see him stat pad in garbage time to fool his fans into thinking he played “all out” the entire game when he didn’t. Boxscore watchers. His fans see it but then they blame it on his teammates. The “why would he continue to play for these scrubs” excuse. It’s why he gets a lot of criticism by other fans bc of this. Was never a fan of his either, don’t like his game or his obsession of having to have the narrative in his favor at all times. The “look at my stats, give me respect” can easily rub people the wrong way.
@@jacoblee5796 this makes no sense because he had a meltdown in his first finals. Got outscored and outplayed by Jason Terry who was a role player and not a Hall of Famer. There's no coming back from that.
Michael Jordan is the no.1 and the greatest player of all time, no question about that. No.2 for me is Kobe Bryant amd no.3 is Lebron James. Michel Jotdan still the G.O.A.T. of the history of NBA.
when legitimate G.O.A.T candidates start saying lebron is unquestionably the best, then it may be comparible. When you are good at something you will tell everyone(like bron saying he was goat) When you are the best at something everyone will tell you!!
No doubt that Jordan can control the game whenever he wants. He's way far from the other players and I think no one will be compared as like him ever again. Once in a lifetime GOAT
This is not even a discussion. MJ is by far the best player to ever lace up a pair basketball shoes. His fierce, unwavering hatred of losing and his love of basketball propelled and inspired him to another level. He was the best defensive and best offensive player at the same time.
Exactly, let's not forget that prior to the triangle offense being implemented he played the PG for a few stretch of games and in just that time, he has more +10assists games straight than Jason f' Kidd, he guy sitting on the second spot all time in assist.
I experienced my youth in the nineties. Most of that decade, he was in the paper almost every day, on tv, on tv commercials. Everybody knew MJ. You either loved him or hated him. But he and the bulls took over the league. They were invicible because of him. He was a role model worldwide. And the nba league took off because of him as well as Nike. The nba playoffs were always streamed on national tv with a high rating in my country, now that doesn't happen anymore.
Houston Rockets fan in the 90’s, but when Jordan was playing I always wanted to watch his games too and rooted for him, just something different seeing him play. But I’d also say Hakeem may be one of the best centers of all time in my opinion.
All I know is I have 10s of old VHS tapes with recorded footage of games Jordan played in, as well as dunk contests and such. Gave me something to look forward to as a child and made me want to excel also. MJ is Legend.
When everything depends on it, do you pick a “killer” or a “facilitator?” I’ll take the killer every time. The only two people who would disagree are Lebron and Isiah Thomas, who’s been butthurt since he led the Pistons dishonourable walkoff in 1991.
David Falk: "When Michael signed with Nike (for $250k), they were HOPING to sell around $3.5 mil by year 4. By the end of year ONE, they had sold $128 mil..."
Jordan is #1 and the most electrifying player ever. It’s offensive to compare anyone to MJ. No matter what MJ did people never stop doubting him and always waiting to see MJ fail throughout his entire career. MJ is strong and people even today hate that and smile in his face out of envy. Every player that has lost to MJ knows there’s nothing they can do.
Man this is why i tell people Jordan over Lebron. Everytime i watch a video like this about legends they say "Lebron is a Great player for sure, but he IS NOT Michael Jordan"
Mate, Jordan is the GOAT for sure. No question about it. But where is this "Lebron or Jordan goatness rivarly" obsession coming from? I am always fuming hearing the s**t! Have they all forgotten about Kobe?!?
@@clintliston5358 i mean, Kobe was and imo will always be 2nd to MJ. With Lebron 3rd. MJ Himself said Kobe is 2nd so 🤷 but honestly people like debating. The whole "Goat" Arguement is something i dont put myself in at all. I just go by what i hear and what ive seen. Kobe is my favorite Player though.
@@brizzain7618 My opinion is MJ and Mamba is the same shelf! OK, Jordan has more rings and bigger hand size. But their mindset, the skills, the heart and "that something" is the same level. And I hated Lakers and Kobe as a Bulls fan. But nobody can argue with facts...
@@clintliston5358 bro hand size? MJ Is the Greatest to ever do it. If you're putting Kobe in the shelf than you have to have a debate for why. The mentality yeah. But MJ was a Different Beast in the finals/playoffs Kobe was too but Kobe is one shelf below but Barely touching MJ's Shelf
When Jordan could tell you what he was going to do to someone or tell that person what he was going to do to them …and did it?! That was beyond amazing. I’ve just never seen shine before, during or after that can do what he did.
A lot of teams confessed that they knew they couldn't stop MJ and their strategies were to stop the four other guys and let mj score 50, in some of the games when he did score 40, 50 points all the other guys had career low, so it worked, but the other team still loss
4:45 funny how MJ averaged 1 assist less than Magic in the finals (11.4 vs 12.4). He did what his team needed. He had multiple games with 12-15 rebounds because Rodman had some issues. He covered both offensive and defensive load when Pip was injured. As what MJ said, he was the utility man of the team, he did what his team needed him to do. Let's not forget when he dropped multiple triple doubles when he was made pg... He can pass but he's in charge of scoring. Why pass when you're arguably the best perimeter shooter in the game?
People forget to mention these things. He did what he was asked. Lebron does only what he can do. Jordan can do everything Lebron can and then some but Lebron can't do everything Jordan could.
*Jordan was a GENIUS that only happens a couple times in human history. We have yet to see anyone else in his level, and maybe never will. Might actually take 100+ more years IF we do.*
The only other 2 guys who had that was Babe Ruth and Ali. Babe Ruth could go drinking all night and, with no sleep, hit a couple homers. Ali already knew how he was gonna subdue his opponent before it happened. NOW Ohtani might be that next guy, if he helps his team win a championship is to be seen.
When he jumped the dude would fly. I have never seen an NBA player do that. It's like gravity did not affect him. It was amazing watching him do what he did. Switch hands dunk. I'm still amazed with what I seen him do in the 80s '90s. It's crazy ..
Everytime jordan stepped on the court the energy just changed and became electric. Plus you never knew what jordan was going to do when he was on the court which made it more exciting and jordan just had this ability to strike fear into his opponents even shaq said he was afraid of mj and hell the pistons invented the jordan rules just so they could stop him because Daley said if mj gets going he is monster to stop
That's what people that weren't there don't get. He brought a higher awareness in people when he played. You were present when he played. It was more than just basketball.
@@thomash1268 Y’all really are skewed on this alternate reality. Jordan fans unite in these types of posts. This is where y’all congregate to worship that dude.
Michael Jordan footwork was just immaculate. Me personally I think he took ballet and perfected it on to the basketball court.in come fly with me he showed the whole world that he was even handed. the man could turn and shoot the basketball with the right then turn and shoot with the left I mean who really could guard a man like that basically nobody.the man had no weakness.now Kobe Bryant may God rest his soul he got close but not close enough no disrespect to that man Kobe Bryant wasn't even handed like Michael Jordan but Michael Jordan had already perfected the game when Kobe Bryant came on the scene.like the old heads use to say to us there's no room for second place.
Skills, athletics, rule changes, different eras none of that matters. What matters is just how much of a competitor MJ is. Lebron could never match Mike’s Will to win at all costs. A huge part of it was Lebron was so gifted and so big and strong at a very young age. He always had to play a bit softer and not bully kids. That crept into his mentality on the court. If Lebron had Jordan’s killer instinct he would be by far the greatest. But he doesn’t and for that reason even if Lebron breaks every record it’s still MJ!!!
Nash nailed it. MJ put the fear in people’s hearts, he was a killer and he made sure you knew it. Nobody ever lost a night’s sleep before a game with Lebron.
Okay I think we are being a bit too dramatic here. I'm sure lebron has instilled fear on his opponents at some points but the frequency is what makes it unmatched.
@@rizoschristodoulou9815 lebron never scared the biggest threats in the pool. think about this out of everybody lebron has faced in finals the leading player has beat lebron first. all except durant and butler. but literally the spurs,warriors & dallas had made crazy examples out of him.
@@monkukudagod1 not only that but look what a bench player in Jason Terry did to LBJ, he called out his defense and proceeded to outscore him. Then a young Kawhi in 2013 finals who averaged 13 ppg in the season completely outplayed him the last 3 games. A young Curry also beat him, we ain’t even mentioning a lot of above average players who pushed LBJ to 7 games. Even the young/inexperienced Suns last year. LBJ fans act like the Raptors (before Kawhi) were afraid of him, like naw them fools were just bad vs everyone.
@@monkukudagod1 but look at the teams tho. Bron was 22 against a Spurs dynasty and when u go to 2018 he had a team full of nobodies it’s just he was more experienced in the game
I recently rewatched the 2011 nba finals heat vs Mavs. Heat were leading by 15 pts or so with very little time left. Mavs went on an absurd run to win the game, take the wind out of the heats sails and eventually win the series. One thing stood out for me, was the lack of Leadership on the part of LeBron. Everytime down the floor it was him or a teammate shooting brick after brick. No way that sort of thing would happen to peak MJ, especially in the NBA finals. I will give credit to Bron for winning vs an atg warriors team in 2016 but that's it.
How can anyone watching all these NBA legends say all of this about Jordan and someone still says LeBron is better makes no sense. No one has more credibility than actually NBA players that played with or against both.
@@russelturner5771 LIke bruce lee? or was Bruce Lee fake? I dont think he was.. The man did 2 finger one handed pushups amongst other physical accomplisments.. he obviously trained in SOMETHING..
What you can pick up from The Last Dance that will really answer this is that players were absolutely intimidated by MJ. Teammates, opponents, even coaches. Everyone. Lebron is just not like that. He's physically intimidating, but the atmosphere he creates is just not on that level. Only Kobe came close to inducing MJ level fear.
@@nuendo2496 6 of 6 in Finals... come on now... LeBron has been to the Finals like 30 times already and hasn't even reached Kobe level. He's been in the NBA what 21 years? Jordan played 15... it's not even close my guy. Best offensive and defensive player in the entire league, never seen that before and hasnt been seen since.
I've been blessed to see Kareem, Magic, Dr J, Bird, Jordan, O'Neil and now LeBron.. I can tell you that it was a whole different basketball back in 80's and 90's then today.. I doubt Lebron lasting 10 seasons back in the day.. Defenders would have ruff up James and would have him crying..
This is crazy how people say that Jordan would adapt to these era but lebron wouldn’t be able to take the punishment from the 90s and the skinny defenders back then. Man if Jordan was running the court in these era i bet he wouldn’t have the same number of all-defensive teams he has right now. That man be too tired to carry an offense plus be a great defender. Plus with all the great stars and teams, he doesn’t win 6 chips.
Have you ever watched MJ play basketball?? The man was on a different level than anyone else. You cant rate Jordan on a scale because he is above the scale..
I always laugh when people say MJ 🐐 didn’t pass the ball as much as LeBron. Like, dude, you probably don’t know the “playmaker MJ” who had 10 triple doubles in 11 games in 1989! He clearly was capable of doing the same thing as LeBron has been doing today, PLUS his defense. So I don’t wanna hear this narrative over and over again. (Ps. I was born in 2000 but I’ve just watched a lot of MJ games, so I know)
And thats while he was serving a stint as point guard instead of shooting guard. If you asked him to, he'd put up the Westbrook numbers and then some, except without any of the Westbrick weaknesses.
Not to mention when he got those 10 triple doubles the back story before it was fire because In 1989, Bulls head coach Doug Collins decided to switch Michael Jordan to play PG after MJ expressed frustration at the team's offense. Over the final 24 games of that season, Jordan averaged 30.4 PPG, 9.2 RPG, and 10.7 APG, including a stretch where he had 10 triple doubles in 11 games. So although in a 11 game stretch he had a triple doubles in 10 of those games stretch he almost had an averaged of a triple double in 24 games which is fucking insane
Charley Barkley gonna slap him right on the damn spot, right on the damn spot. If he, a media personality tell him Lebron James is a great player is as good as Michael Jordan, competes like Michael Jordan, he's gonna slap him right on the damn spot and Barkley just gonna try his chances in the judiciary system. Barkley's words, not mine.
@@reodagreo7637 lol, that's because Barkley's old now. This dude body slamming Shaq and throwing cats out of restaurant windows in his prime. Shannon is big, but he ain't that dude.
I think what's interesting is that Durant who is still playing / said MJ was the best. Players who are as great as Durant don't normally say someone else is better. .
Jordans mentality ALONE destroys all of Lebron's accomplishments. And I know this is going to hurt some people's feelings but LeBron is not even #2, or #3 maybe #4 but that's as close as he will get to Jordan.
Let that sink in for people who don't realize how good MJ was. He was the best offensive and best defensive player in the league at the same time. Nobody could shut down his offense but he could shut down the offense of any elite players in his time. He was fierce on both sides of the court, a complete player. His skill level is unmatched to this day. When people excel at other sports they say, so and so is the MJ of volley ball or the MJ of golf; that is how good MJ was. He is the golden standard of excellence in all sports.
LeBron is one of the greatest. But to me he's not greater than MJ. Why? MJ didn't look for excuses when he failed. He didn't recruit other stars to join nor bandwaggons to increase the chances to win a chip sooner. He was fearless and only got better when being challenged and taunted.
I'm all about MJ, but lmfao at @ "he didn't recruit other stars" Bulls in their prime were PACKED (imo talent wise they weren't too far away from GSW with KD)
@@sahasrara3087 Tell me one player he recruited? Pippen, Armstrong, Grant were drafted by the bulls. They traded one of the best rebounders Oakley for Cartwright who was a rotation player at best. Kukoc came after th 1993 championship, after MJ's first retirement. Same goes for Longley. The only player after MJ's return who came to the bulls was Rodman. And that just because Grant left the Bulls. So, please don't tell me Jordan recruited superstars.
I have been around for quite awhile, seen thousands of games, and nobody comes close to MJ. He was clutch like no other. His creativity to score is unmatched. His defense was unbelievable. Lebron’s block on Iggy in the finals that everyone marveled about was routine for MJ. While Lebron is bigger, MJ was a lot quicker. His first step was unbelievable. And when it came to being flashy, smooth, athletic, MJ no doubt. I just feel fortunate that I got to watch him in my lifetime.
The league recently toughen up the rules. You can’t hook arms and shoot, can’t flop, can’t really run plays for free throws. That has hurt a lot of players, James Harden being the best example. The rules were more tougher in the 90s than the adjustment now, still. No one can put up numbers jordan did with easier rules now. What does that say?
Exactly what I’ve been saying. Jordan played in a league where the paint was guarded like the White House lol. Lebron is a menace but he’s played in a league that allows free lanes to the basket multiple times a game. Still a great player though and a top 10 player of all time (Probably top 5 but not imo personally) Btw 4 or so months later and it seems like the rules have softened up again😔
Seeing KD in the thumbnail reminded me how LeBron didn't wanna guard him in that Final minute of a critical Game 3 in the 2018 Finals. Dude rather stay on 6'3 Steph Curry and pass the 2nd Best player of the 2010s decade to Bench player Rodney Hood.
Tbf KD was more or less equal to LBH between 2014 to 2016. Since 2017 he has been better than LBJ. Also one could argue after the 2018 season Harden has also now surpassed LBJ. I mean Kawhi, Harden, KD, Curry, & Giannis are probably the top 5 players. Then the next 5 AD, Jokic, Kyrie, LBJ, & Damian. Although Luka, Booker, Porzingis, Zion are going to be the next ones coming up. After LBJ, Melo, Westbrick, Rondo, etc. are out.
McGrady is laughing at Pippen because Pippen made some comments about Jordan not being better than LeBron and he was scolded for that and now he was trying to make another statement saying that Jordan much better. Pippen is one of my favorite players but he lost his basketball Credit coming at Mike
After thinking about it, I don’t think Jordan or many of the past greats would be able to thrive if they played today, because they would get bored of it too quickly. The game today isn’t fun to watch at all.
Jordan would actually dominate much more with todays weak rules. Not being able to get physical whole guarding him will give him more opportunities to score.
The aspect of MJ’s game that has always amazed me the most is the fact that I have rarely ever seen him call for or utilize the screen to help him get to the rack ANY WAY he could/or wanted to!! He had Horace Grant, Rodman, Pippen, and a few other large bodies to work around too!! Luc Longley, Ron Harper, and Toni were all better than average players as well, but MJ IS THE GOAT!!
Every team in the league contributed a chunk of MJs salary because they owed him for filling the seats. Legit, the other teams paid him to play against them.
MJ dominated a league at 6'6" and 200 lbs. Lebron is 6'9" 250 lbs. If MJ was Lebron's size I don't think it would improve his game. However if Lebron was 6'6" and 200 lbs he wouldn't be as menacing as MJ was. You can't compare eras because Lebron's size and today's game is drastically different. Also Lebron's stats have always benefitted from playing along side other superstars, Wade and Bosh, Kyrie and Love. Today's game is mostly 1 on 1 iso. Jordan would dominate the league.
Jordan was coming for your soul that’s why he took everything personal, is not a joke, he want destroy everybody, that is mentality. He never lost a final…NEVER! Kobe and Bron are the best human being who ever played the game, but man but MJ is the best of aliens that ever land on this earth! He was from another world…and these are FACTS! 🤷🏻♂️
Robert Horry never lost a Finals either. And u gotta make it to the Finals to win/lose a Finals. Jordan fans are the only fans in the world that glorify losing before the Finals over losing in the Finals.
@@allenlucas1676 Robert Horry never carried any team on his back either.MJ lost because he didn't have his crew yet.Once he got his crew it was a wrap.
@@allenlucas1676 cool Robert horry never lost, mj was the best on those teams as he won finals mvp every time. Also, U saying that “u gotta make the finals to win them” is invalid as Jordan was playing on a bad team until scottie pippin and Horace grant developed. And when he lost against Orlando he had not even played many games and was put in the playoffs.
The biggest difference comes down to rules. MJ played in an era when other teams were allowed to beat the crap out of him. Lebron plays now when the rules are more strict about fouls. I think Jordan could adapt to today's rules but I don't think LeBron's mindset would allow him to adapt to getting hammered every night. That's why I think Jordan is the best.
@@densincomprehend8879 I think Michael is more skilled and has more of a killer mindset. Lebron is close but I would always pick Michael first because his entire package of skill and attitude elevate him above the rest.
@@Definitelyitsallgood I don't agree. Whenever LeBron was the best he was the best of all, in league or team. Kobe let himself be outshone (3 times) by other like Shaquille. Shaquille had to be injuried and then leave to Kobe become the teamstar. I think they are in the same level, but LeBron went farther.
his huge hands made him really , really special. You just don't see those palming the ball moves in the air these days. Those moves he did because of his hand size made him a human highlight reel.
It's a silly narrative created just to give LeBron something over MJ. The fact is Jordan was a phenomenal passer, he was just that good that more often than not it was better if he didnt pass the ball. John Starks 3.6, Steve Kerr 1.8, Reggie Miller 3.0, Mitch Richmond 3.5, Latrell Sprewell 4.0, Clyde Drexler 5.6, Michael Jordan 5.3 assists per game. Jordan had a weak passing game, not for his time he didn't LeBron at 7.4 well isn't a knock on LBJ his tendency to pass instead of shoot in clutch moments?
MJ averaged like what 5-6 assists in his Career. And when asked to be a point guard he averaged 10+ assists. MJ could have been the best point scoring guard if he played that position his whole career. But, I wonder if his team won more or less rings.
It is really the qay Jordan took over games. I recently watched the last minutes of his final bulls game. He got the ball basically every single time, he was the one who took the last deciding shot for the championship. Not by surprise, everybody expected this. But nobody could stop him from scoring. He never stepped back from this responsibility.
Please observe the players calling Jordan the Goat and the players calling Lebron the Goat. You will see that players like Kendrick Perkins, Richard Jefferson, Ryan Hollins, and so on are the ones calling Lebron the Goat. It is so funny that no top 20 greatest of all time player has called Lebron the Goat before except him. Kareem still has a better case than Lebron.
And most of those players who pick LBJ over everyone have been linked to klutch sports and the two main analysts on fox Shannon/Nick have been on record before stating MJ was the goat. They changed their tune once those klutch sports checks started coming through.
My personal opinion, MJ is the GoaT. THEN we have Kareem, Magic, Kobe. And then we have LeBron and Bird. I've seen the stats, but there's nothing like to see them play, and I've seen them all play. The intensity, the drive and sheer artistry that MJ had, it's unmatched. Also he's never lost a final and never went to game 7 in the finals, and that carries a shit ton of weight.
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Your work is very good thank you I'm 47 today basketball is a different animal then I feel like that was the golden age for me
I was going to give your comment a thumb up but it was at 23 so i left this comment instead
Michael had 1 weakness. No scottie pippen he wouldnt have won 6 undefeated appearances in the finals he would've lost 1 and messed his perfect record up bcz without scottie he would've lost to Utah the 2nd time.
@@challiewallie4023 shit without Scottie, JORDAN would’ve been another Allen Iverson.
Without scottie Jordan would of just groomed another average player too be just as good as pip
I love how Hakeem opens up by saying it’s a totally not fair comparison because Jordan is just far superior to LeBron 😂
Raw honesty 🤣😂 Hakeem wouldn't have won if MJ didn't retire, but he was one of the best players I've ever seen. Took it for granted at the time, but between him, Stockton and Malone, Ewing, Chuck and Reggie ... Nothing was better than the Eastern Conference playoffs in the 90s!!
@@topspot4834 yea but Tbf and you can’t deny it the bulls did struggle against Hakeem lol he was still hard for them to cover but honestly Michaels legacy is always lowkey untapped just because of his breaks
Hakeem is like like "ahahah we would have murdered Lebron everytime he drove the lane.... like we tried to Jordan....the difference is Lebron would die...wheras Jordan...would get angry and then violate us in unspeakable ways....just ask Isaiah or Dominique"
@@topspot4834 hey man! Your right lol
And im from houston lol
@@topspot4834 Raw fax....Bulls were 1-6 vs Olajuwon during THE DAMN 3 PEAT. Only a jordan nut hugger would say some dumb shit like that, lol. Jordan was Olajuwon's bitch. Wtf u looking at? Wasn't the games....lol
Hakeem Olajuwon on Jordan: He is a far more superior player, very very creative than Lebron on a very very tough league. Nuff said, case closed.
@@munir9527 he was also his teams president lol
When Jordan was asked who he respected and would be on his hand picked team, The Dream was on that list.
When the Greatest center talks, y’all better listen.
@@munir9527 cause MJ just destroyed him :D
@@munir9527 Pat himself knew that wasn't true, it was a shot taken at Jordan because every defensive play he drew up couldn't stop him
I never used to feel anything about Lebron really, but as I've watched him, and evolved, I've learned to appreciate just how great he is. That being said, I was privileged to grow up in the Magic/Bird era, which overlapped Jordan. Listen, I'm a Celtics fan. Lifelong. I got nothing in this fight. To this day I've never seen anything like Jordan. It has nothing to do with Lebron. Lebrons an all time great. Anyone who is my age who watched Jordan his entire career knows exactly what I'm talking about. There is nothing like him. Literally, nothing in my lifetime. Ok, that's all...
I remember when I was younger, you could actually feel it while watching the games. I felt lucky to be able to see it.
Facts
Amen to that!
have you seen julian newman play?
I’ll say this: if it wasn’t for the Bad Boy Pistons, Michael would not be considered the G.O.A.T. Hulk Hogan beat the hated Iron Sheik and Jordan eventually slayed the hated Pistons. The hero overcoming and defeating the villain is what makes greatness. LeBron never did that. Not once. Neither did Kobe. Neither did Wilt. Neither did Russell. Neither did Kareem. In a way, Magic and Bird both did to each other and that is why they are living legends to this very day. They may both not have the insane stats the rest do, but their rivalry made them great and greater than they would have been without it.
Nash's take really struck me, Jordan used to cause fear in the entire league because literally if you did anything to motivate MJ it was over. Never felt that way about LeBron, never feared him
I felt that bro. Crazy
Pretty hard to ‘fear’ a guy who can’t shoot free throws and a team can leave you open at the 3pt line as a strategy.
Also, hard to fear a guy who wears shorts with a suit jacket carrying a man bag…..
That to me is the difference. Jordan didn’t want to beat you. He wanted to humiliate you. He wanted to make sure people would chuckle if your name ever got brought up. LeBron wants to win but he still wants to be friends at the end of the day. Jordan wants you humiliated and laughed at.
@@the_real_ch3 that is a FACT 😂😂😂
LeBron not even top7.
Top7 are killers. Larry Bird is killer, MJ is killer, Magic is killer.
LeBron is for playground.
Even the championship with Cavaliers, the main one I respect, it is other guy that showed valuable support in the finals.
Jordan has 6 rings but that doesn't even matter to me, it's the way he played.. Perfect.
His mid-air ball control is extraordinarily phenomenal. That's why he has the monicker "His Royal Airness".
It's never just one thing. Agreed, it's not just the six rings. Btw, the way guys form super teams today and "take their talents" someplace else every other year, I'm not impressed when a guy has rings. For example, Kevin Durant? Sorry, those two rings in Golden State don't impress me. Great, you went to a 73 win team and won? Must have been really tough! LeBron hoping teams any time he feels like his teammates are no longer good? Imagine if MJ went to the Celtics. And when Larry's back got bad, went to the Pistons. Then back to the Bulls. He'd have 12 rings if he wanted.
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Lebron’s 1 ring against GSW hold more value than all of Jordan’s 6 rings.
@@allenlucas1676 LOL, go back to you coloring books kid.
@@blobgooll9395 How old are you child?
When all of the answers starts with “First of all, let's not take away anything from LeBron”. you know that there shouldn't be a debate.
i chosed KOBE over Lebron closest to MJ
There's always room in second. let's put MJ in the safe spot, why argue when almost all the greatest are saying MJ is the goat the debate should be, who's in second?. All of that said, we can all put who's in second in our opinion.
There should be no debate... Larry Bird is the GOAT.
@@ronghores1224 And you're right.
DAMN IT!!! I was going to type those EXACT words until I saw your comment. 😂😂😂😂
"LeBron is great but he's not MJ" well said.
Not only did Jordan have no weakness, but he seemed to have perfected every aspect of the game to a level that intimidated every player in the league.
Not Bird
He was so perfect but was losing before Pippen lol y’all hilarious
@sltschooloftruth4347 or Bron signed with Miami because he knew they would attract players 😂😂😂Bron made the finals with an underperforming team his first go around with Cleveland Mike never made the finals his first 8 years with the Bulls he was stats padding against plumbers 🤣🤣
@@donkrider72caprice The Bad Boy Pistons were also losing until they put a roster together. You forget Jordan was a champion and player of the year in college with no Pippen around bro. Eventually Jordan would win 6 rings, 5 MVP's and 10 scoring titles. Did Pippen do all that for him?
@@infiniteuniverse9528 and Jordan wasn’t the best player on his championship team at NC 🤣🤣
I'm a huge Jordan fan and personally my eyes tell me that Jordan is the Goat. I don't look at stats or rings its really because of his play on offense and defense but also the impact he has on the game.
Facts for me watching him is all you need forget everything else
Your eyes can deceive you. Numbers don’t lie. Lebron made more points in way less shot attempts than Jordan! So he’s a more efficient scorer, he gets way more rebounds, and way more assists. He involves his whole team and Jordan tries to do it all himself. Pippen carried him his whole career and ended up with more rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks than Jordan in every Finals run. Lebron leads in all stats in every Finals run on his own squad. And several times he’s lead in every stat on both squads. There’s no question Lebron is better! Period!
Lebron has longer career than MJ. MJ played only 13 or 14 seasons only. Lebron is playing his 19 season i think. Rules changed alot. MJ is the goat of basketball man. There a lot of 90’s bulls games in youtube. Watch and compare to todays nba. MJ is the goat
@@allenlucas1676 and u know more than all these nba legends lol
@@TheBronke I had wgn I watched a ton of games live.
I watched Jordan and Lebron play finals live. Nobody fears Lebron, where as you could see the fear and admiration of Jordan's opponents.
they did when lebron carried cleveland in the beginning for a couple years.
@@samuraipizzacat5586 I never saw any fear tbh
@@samuraipizzacat5586 too bad no chips those first couple years
I bet to you the warriors fear lebron or else they wouldn’t have gotten Kevin Durant
@@pauljose268 So LBJ had fear when he attempted to create the supersquads in the Heat, the Cavs and the Lakers?
i am 48 year old and i watched MJ play through his entire career...and this is what i feel as far as MJ and lebron...i remeber as a fan watching MJ and knowing that i was about to lose especially in the play offs when ntheres only 5 seconds left...the whole world knew who was about to get the ball...and yet you couldnrt stop it..that feeling..i have never felt with lebron..i actually feared MJ..not with lebron..i think theres really no comparison
You are dead on bro,,,there is no comparison..
Yet Lebron made more shots with a better rate than Jordan in this situations.
I'm 51 and this ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻perfectly explains my thoughts!
@@mirak63 100% wrong
@@mirak63 team down by 1-3 with 5 seconds and you need a bucket to tie or take the lead. In both playoff and regular season lebron shoots under 20% in that situation. MJ on the other hand shoots 50% which is the same as his fg %. Thats the defintion of clutch
This is such an artificial debate created by the media to get attention as there is a drop in NBA viewers. LeBron is a fantastic player, but he's not even better than Kobe, how can he compare to MJ?
I only started watching the NBA because of MJ (in 1989) and since he retired the second time (1998) I've been losing interest year after year. Bball isn't as tough as it was in the 80's and 90's with great defenders and legendary players not as plentiful as they once were. Overprotecting players with new rules created a boring game with weak defenses and 3-point shots. I feel sorry for the new generation that hasn't seen real bball.
Load management is something MJ would have been insulted by if it was ever proposed to him. His mindset of giving his absolute best every time he was on the court is unmatched. He was willing to put his physical and mental sanity in order to win it all, I think Kobe is the only one to share that insane drive. Also MJ never shied away from taking over when a game was on the line, he never disappeared when his number was called upon and when he passed the ball in clutch situations it's because he had carried the team on his shoulders and he recognized that taking that last deciding shot wasn't the best basketball play.
In th '86 1st RD vs BOS, Many remember Jordan's 63 pt game. The very next game, He got outscored by 3 "studs" in an 18 pt season-ending home loss. J Paxson (23 Pts), D Corzine (22 Pts), & D Ainge (20 Pts).
In 1988 ECSF, Let's see how Jordan did. G3: scores 3 4th Q points in a 22 point home loss G4: scores 8 4th Q points in a 19 point home loss G5: scores 5 4th Q points in a 7 point loss
In 1989, Jordan's Bulls went up 2-1 in the ECF, but then lost 3 in a row. Let's see how he did in those games: G4: Scored 11 points over last 3 quarters in a 6 point home loss G5: Scored 1 4th Q point in a crucial 9 point loss G6: Scored 6 4th Q points in 9 point season ending home loss. In the last 5 minutes, Jordan scored just 2 points, and didn't take a shot in the last 3 minutes of the game. Result? Bulls go home. Jordan made just 9 shots COMBINED over Game 4 and Game 5 (both losses) In the '90 ECF. The Bulls lost all 4 games on the road. Let's see how Jordan did in those games: G1: 3 4th Q points (lost by 9) G2: 5 4th Q points (lost by 9) G5: 5 4th Q points (lost by 14) G7: 9 4th Q points on 10 shots (lost by 19). Jordan scored 0 points in the last 4:50 of game 7.
@@dynamic6645 good bot. Now go and search his numbers and compare them with LeBron's or anybody with the same amount playoff appearances...
... and from Nov 6. 1990 until he retired as a Bull (626 games), he never lost three in a row again.
@@dynamic6645 Assuming this is true I'm sure you're disingenuous self knows why Jordan's output fell. Due to the Jordan rules. Once he had another player who could take away some of the focus from the triple defense there was almost no looking back.
@@dynamic6645 look at you, I bet you researched all day/night looking for a 10 point or less playoff game by MJ only to be disappointed.
If you think that equates to LBJ choking in the 2011 finals then what the hell do you consider 88 of LBJ’s teammates outscoring him in playoff games while MJ only had 13 teammates outscore him...
Well MJ is still number one
in 75th anniversary of NBA
The G O A T😊
MJ was better, regardless of stats. You can see it just by comparing the two on the court. MJ's movements were so clean and quick compared to all the other big men. He was the perfect storm of size, skill, agility, and leadership. When you're 7 feet tall, you're lumbering and a little awkward. I think 6'5 - 6'6 is perfect for Mike and the type of player he was. Like those fundamentals and his movements put him above pro league. He was a damn art form.
Poetry in motion
There was legitimate fear when Mike stepped on the court, every single night. The streets were deserted by 5pm PST when Mike played on TNT. Guys were leaving work early to go watch Mike score over 40 points on any given night. The reverence was at biblically epic levels. Tears were literally shed both when Mike retired the first time and finally after his last bucket as a Chicago Bulls player; the crossover on Bryon Russell, and who would forget Elo throwing up his arms in aghast frustration and futility, justifiably so, when Mike nailed the final bucket, winning his 6th and final championship.
"if this is the last we see of Jordan, how sweet it is.“
-Bob Costas
These Lebron peeps have no clue how great MJ was. There is a reason why all the hall of famers call him the GOAT.
@@ssfouryou They totally do not know the fear that MJ
struck in his opponents; they were defeated before Mike made a move or took a shot. They'll be on the court paralyzed and spectating in awe as if they were not NBA players. MJs opponents admit to it. I've never heard an opponent of LeBron express fear of him on the court.
Jordan’s game was art in motion. It was beautiful to watch.
Lebron is great , but hard to watch. Let that sink in….
Jordan was aesthetically pleasing,a joy to watch.Neither LeBron or Kobe had the athletic grace that Mike had.There is a entertainment factor in today's sports.No player has ever been as beautiful to watch as MJ.
if only bron would be more aggressive. I hate it when he makes his well established NBA teammates become spot up shooters.
@@carlosvaldez3093 LeBron is hard to play with because he dominates the ball too much he stifles his teammates game.Luka Doncic is like that too.MJ scored a lot but he let his teammates breath.
@@ralphgreenwood2469 Bruh speak on Luka!! Everyone keeps blaming Porzingis(he does deserve a lot blame)but the problem is Luka has the ball in his hands like 90% of the time and it's no exaggeration! He is a stat filler but it is hard to get in the flow when he has the ball so much.
Lebron dunked most of the time on fast breaks jordan dunked in faces in traffic yet lebron is bigger so it should be easier for him to do so but that,s not the case in most cases in the NBA the height difference is six inches. so it was your ability to jump and hang in the air until everyone comes down that was one of his strengths I dont think no one will catch him someone may match him in points and surpass him and they have but no one can score like him he can score when there no. shot but he always found away to score no one did that better that is why he is almost unstoppable he could score wherever he wanted to
Those Bull's games in the 90's were the greatest sport's exhibitions/event I seen to date!
In the 90s only
@@user-ci7vu7eo9w Bulls vs Knicks!! Love those series but hated watching Jordan send my Ewing led Knicks packing!! LOL
I was in high school '92-'96 and die hard Bulls fan. It's just not the same anymore, I do miss Rose not being able to fulfill his career.
Agreed. I stopped watching basketball after Jordan retired. Haven’t seen a whole game since then.
We saw the best offensive and the one of the best defensive players in NBA history wrapped in the same body.... MJ
There's a story about Jordan playing when he was still at NC. I guess this was like MJ second year and the players were talking about just how good he was even at that time. So, every practice the guys would look on the schedule to see who they had to guard the next day. One day, one of the guys on the team looked at the schedule and saw that he would have to guard MJ, the next day at practice. His teammate said his friend had this sick look on his face all the way home. And as soon as they got back to the dorm, he threw-up all over the place! Lol, now that's FEAR!
Do you have a source where i can see this story?
People often forget that MJ took and made the last shot to win the National Championship at NC.
Jordan only played his junior and senior year at NC. He was trash before then
Ther you you have it! Don’t matter what any of you Lebron guys can say? Even smagic said Michael Jeffery Jordan Goat!!
@theoburden6592
You really don’t know anything about basketball.. he declared for the draft after his true junior season. Please don’t speak on things you don’t know.
Mj is the Goat but Pippen have the deepest voice ever.
My resonó.. big arsenal of skills. I prefer Pippen handles, are so fluid and smooth. AI had better crossovers. But in general MJ and his skills and atittude..never choke never fear. Great players can lose but they can not choke
@@rafaelchang6570 But Jordan did choke in the first round in the playoffs 3 times! 🤷🏽♂️
@@allenlucas1676 he lost to the Celtics with bird, mchale and parish and he balled out. His teams were trash. Hardly call that choking
Lebron didn’t even make the playoffs his first year lol
Pippen talks octaves below the lowest G on the piano.
Jordan was 6ft 6" shooting guard who dominated the NBA during an era when so many elite shot blocking dominating centers & HOFS roam the middle & they couldn't do anything with him except to hope that they weren't posterized by MJ.
BS.in the 80s wouldn.t do nothig against pistons.celtics
@@user-ci7vu7eo9w only if he had a proper supporting cast
@@user-ci7vu7eo9w Even though the Pistons employed special dirty tactics trying to keep him in check that didn't stop MJ from sweeping them the year the Bulls won their first title.
@@russelturner5771 what about before 1991?
@@user-ci7vu7eo9w MJ was still dominating on an individual level so much the Pistons came up with "Jordan rules" trying to contain him because they couldn't play him straight up.
4:34 Michael Jordan hitting a stepback in the 90s when it wasn't even popular..... If you think MJ wouldn't adapt to today's game you are absolutely fooling yourself.
Watching Jordan play was an event not just a game. The more friends with u watching a live, the better the memory.
Jerry West said it the best. No one has the speed, jumping ability, lateral movement, hangtime, knowing how to create space, and has the large hands along with the ferocious competitiveness as Michael Jordan. There have been some copycats since MJ retired but no one will ever match the greatness of MJ
He also had ridiculous stamina and motor, especially in the 80s. He was the most complete athlete in NBA history if you add everything up. He was also very strong and durable.
@Rishitiran Anandeswaran the copy can never be better than the original.
Giannis
@@checkmate8015 Giannis is great for sure and he's come a long way.He's still improving and I think the best is yet to come.
@@ralphgreenwood2469 i believe so too
if you really wanna know what truly separates Jordan from LeBron. It's their mentality and killer instinct. Jordan never had a finals meltdown like LeBron in 2011. I've seen LeBron quit not only on his teammates but himself plenty of times. He doesn't hustle back on defense and he constantly take plays off. I've honestly never was a fan and never will be a fan of LeBron the basketball player.
All of this.
He’s been doing that passive approach when losing, quitting etc at times when things aren’t going well. Then you see him stat pad in garbage time to fool his fans into thinking he played “all out” the entire game when he didn’t. Boxscore watchers. His fans see it but then they blame it on his teammates. The “why would he continue to play for these scrubs” excuse. It’s why he gets a lot of criticism by other fans bc of this. Was never a fan of his either, don’t like his game or his obsession of having to have the narrative in his favor at all times. The “look at my stats, give me respect” can easily rub people the wrong way.
@@eazyduzit-tr3nx
Couldn't have said it any better bro! Your statement was better than mines
Well to be fair MJ never made as many finals to have a meltdown in…..and MJ never took a team of scrubs all the way the finals.
@@jacoblee5796 this makes no sense because he had a meltdown in his first finals. Got outscored and outplayed by Jason Terry who was a role player and not a Hall of Famer. There's no coming back from that.
@@jacoblee5796 Jacob, LeBron had melt down in his 2nd finals. At least you tried
Michael Jordan is the no.1 and the greatest player of all time, no question about that. No.2 for me is Kobe Bryant amd no.3 is Lebron James. Michel Jotdan still the G.O.A.T. of the history of NBA.
After what Nash said, I feel like you can feel the fire in Michael on the court.
You could have just stopped after Olajuwon. He summed it up perfectly and his opinion carries a tremendous amount of weight.
Fucking Done!!
And Olajuwon damn sure in the top 3 to who did Kobe go to and LeBron go to to get their feet together
when legitimate G.O.A.T candidates start saying lebron is unquestionably the best, then it may be comparible. When you are good at something you will tell everyone(like bron saying he was goat) When you are the best at something everyone will tell you!!
Only player to ever say Lebron James was the GOAT was LEBRON JAMES
@@jasondavidson7398 He thought he was god’s gift to basketball.
MJ didn’t just put up numbers, he imposed his will and mentally broke down opponents. LABron has never shown the ability to do that.
also Lebron has never had 2 guys trying to litteraly knock him down while trying to score
@@Zirion123 he's had...
@@killinghawkz who? the recent fight he got into where he ran?
@@Zirion123 skip to 2:01
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MJ would break his own teammates for fun 😂😂 so opponents never stood a chance.
Even today’s players like Durant know that he would be more dominant with the way the game is played today.
I don’t see why, the zone defense make it easier to clogg the lane.
Defenses can help quicker.
Great shooters are favored and Jordan was no Larry Bird
@@mirak63 if James harden can avg damn near 30 ppg playing 3pt lien game then jordan easily avg 30 playing in the post game
No doubt that Jordan can control the game whenever he wants. He's way far from the other players and I think no one will be compared as like him ever again. Once in a lifetime GOAT
It was so much fun to watch MJ’s games!
This is not even a discussion. MJ is by far the best player to ever lace up a pair basketball shoes. His fierce, unwavering hatred of losing and his love of basketball propelled and inspired him to another level. He was the best defensive and best offensive player at the same time.
LeBron is the GOAT.
@@willpower6720Lebron is the goat. that is soooo funny.
@@willpower6720
Look at the stats and analytics of the game. Jordan is better than Lebron!
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No. Jordan was a better scorer. LeBron is a better player.
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Better scorer but not as great a player.
Many props to some of the guys Jax and Ewing putting Kobe before James, which is very accurate. They would know far better than us mortals
Oh boy! The time when Scottie Pippen was level headed. Right before he went crazy. 😂
Jordan didnt need to pass, but when he did, he was one of the best...so technically, he had NO weaknesses.
Exactly, let's not forget that prior to the triangle offense being implemented he played the PG for a few stretch of games and in just that time, he has more +10assists games straight than Jason f' Kidd, he guy sitting on the second spot all time in assist.
I experienced my youth in the nineties. Most of that decade, he was in the paper almost every day, on tv, on tv commercials. Everybody knew MJ.
You either loved him or hated him. But he and the bulls took over the league. They were invicible because of him. He was a role model worldwide. And the nba league took off because of him as well as Nike. The nba playoffs were always streamed on national tv with a high rating in my country, now that doesn't happen anymore.
Houston Rockets fan in the 90’s, but when Jordan was playing I always wanted to watch his games too and rooted for him, just something different seeing him play. But I’d also say Hakeem may be one of the best centers of all time in my opinion.
All I know is I have 10s of old VHS tapes with recorded footage of games Jordan played in, as well as dunk contests and such. Gave me something to look forward to as a child and made me want to excel also. MJ is Legend.
I still have his vhs.... COME FLY WITH ME... Lebron my ass.....
When everything depends on it, do you pick a “killer” or a “facilitator?” I’ll take the killer every time. The only two people who would disagree are Lebron and Isiah Thomas, who’s been butthurt since he led the Pistons dishonourable walkoff in 1991.
Been swept would do that to you. Isaiah's still salty after all these years.
Isaiah beat Jordan more times than Jordan beat Isaiah! 😂
@@allenlucas1676 If u trying to say Isaiah is better than MJ I don't think you will find many supporters.
@@russelturner5771 Mike's been living rent free in Isaiahs head for 30 years
@@allenlucas1676 and yet Jordan still dealt with the 3 losses with more class than Isiah, who was unable to handle just one
David Falk: "When Michael signed with Nike (for $250k), they were HOPING to sell around $3.5 mil by year 4. By the end of year ONE, they had sold $128 mil..."
That's fucking mind blowing. He was and still is bigger than life
Very well put by these players and former players. I still don't understand how anyone can say any different.
When you think of Greatness you say he's the Michael Jordan of something.
Jordan is #1 and the most electrifying player ever. It’s offensive to compare anyone to MJ. No matter what MJ did people never stop doubting him and always waiting to see MJ fail throughout his entire career. MJ is strong and people even today hate that and smile in his face out of envy. Every player that has lost to MJ knows there’s nothing they can do.
Man this is why i tell people Jordan over Lebron. Everytime i watch a video like this about legends they say "Lebron is a Great player for sure, but he IS NOT Michael Jordan"
Mate, Jordan is the GOAT for sure. No question about it. But where is this "Lebron or Jordan goatness rivarly" obsession coming from? I am always fuming hearing the s**t! Have they all forgotten about Kobe?!?
@@clintliston5358 i mean, Kobe was and imo will always be 2nd to MJ. With Lebron 3rd. MJ Himself said Kobe is 2nd so 🤷 but honestly people like debating. The whole "Goat" Arguement is something i dont put myself in at all. I just go by what i hear and what ive seen. Kobe is my favorite Player though.
@@brizzain7618 My opinion is MJ and Mamba is the same shelf! OK, Jordan has more rings and bigger hand size. But their mindset, the skills, the heart and "that something" is the same level.
And I hated Lakers and Kobe as a Bulls fan. But nobody can argue with facts...
@@clintliston5358 bro hand size? MJ Is the Greatest to ever do it. If you're putting Kobe in the shelf than you have to have a debate for why. The mentality yeah. But MJ was a Different Beast in the finals/playoffs Kobe was too but Kobe is one shelf below but Barely touching MJ's Shelf
@@clintliston5358 Kobe ain’t even top 5
When Jordan could tell you what he was going to do to someone or tell that person what he was going to do to them …and did it?! That was beyond amazing. I’ve just never seen shine before, during or after that can do what he did.
A lot of teams confessed that they knew they couldn't stop MJ and their strategies were to stop the four other guys and let mj score 50, in some of the games when he did score 40, 50 points all the other guys had career low, so it worked, but the other team still loss
Michael had everything in his bag at all times.. dude could literally be dying from the flu and put damn near 60 on you. He was simply unstoppable!!
He challenged the flu to stop him he still did what he always does he scored 38 most players would've chose to sit it out
he didn't have the flu
@@tahja exactly,he didn't have the flu! Flu had the Jordan and couldn't handle him...hahaha
@@tahja he had food poison, even worse
@@kauanmachado4483 it's not the flu tho idk why yall still call it that
4:45 funny how MJ averaged 1 assist less than Magic in the finals (11.4 vs 12.4). He did what his team needed. He had multiple games with 12-15 rebounds because Rodman had some issues. He covered both offensive and defensive load when Pip was injured. As what MJ said, he was the utility man of the team, he did what his team needed him to do.
Let's not forget when he dropped multiple triple doubles when he was made pg... He can pass but he's in charge of scoring. Why pass when you're arguably the best perimeter shooter in the game?
People forget to mention these things. He did what he was asked. Lebron does only what he can do. Jordan can do everything Lebron can and then some but Lebron can't do everything Jordan could.
@@ericjordan6059 lol this such a lie
@@FireAngelChris ... Says the kid living in his mom's basement
@@ericjordan6059 That is a lie and I think MJ is better than Lebron.
@@MakaveliDior ... What is a lie? Expound...
*Jordan was a GENIUS that only happens a couple times in human history. We have yet to see anyone else in his level, and maybe never will. Might actually take 100+ more years IF we do.*
google julian newman
I think SAVANT would be a better description for MJ. But I don’t disagree. He absolutely was a GENIUS.
The only other 2 guys who had that was Babe Ruth and Ali. Babe Ruth could go drinking all night and, with no sleep, hit a couple homers. Ali already knew how he was gonna subdue his opponent before it happened. NOW Ohtani might be that next guy, if he helps his team win a championship is to be seen.
When he jumped the dude would fly. I have never seen an NBA player do that. It's like gravity did not affect him. It was amazing watching him do what he did. Switch hands dunk. I'm still amazed with what I seen him do in the 80s '90s. It's crazy ..
Hakeem answered that opening "yes" like he was on a lie detector lol
😂😂😭
Hakeem ? the same Hakeem who was eating Jordan's ass by blocking most of his shots ? hahahahahahaha
@@dynamic6645 I don’t think you wrote what you wanted to write.
@@dynamic6645 atleast he isn't lying
@@dynamic6645 Hakeem who couldn’t win a ring until MJ retired lol but tbf he was a monster of a player
Everytime jordan stepped on the court the energy just changed and became electric. Plus you never knew what jordan was going to do when he was on the court which made it more exciting and jordan just had this ability to strike fear into his opponents even shaq said he was afraid of mj and hell the pistons invented the jordan rules just so they could stop him because Daley said if mj gets going he is monster to stop
That's what people that weren't there don't get. He brought a higher awareness in people when he played. You were present when he played. It was more than just basketball.
I never saw any fan stand in line for days to get a ticket to see LBJ .
@@thomash1268 Y’all really are skewed on this alternate reality. Jordan fans unite in these types of posts. This is where y’all congregate to worship that dude.
Only current player that had a bit of that magic was 14-16 version of Steph Curry.
@@nostalgicbliss5547 but he didn't have the same type of aura
Kobe also had that 'magic' but unlike Michael he tried to be emotionless
Michael Jordan footwork was just immaculate. Me personally I think he took ballet and perfected it on to the basketball court.in come fly with me he showed the whole world that he was even handed. the man could turn and shoot the basketball with the right then turn and shoot with the left I mean who really could guard a man like that basically nobody.the man had no weakness.now Kobe Bryant may God rest his soul he got close but not close enough no disrespect to that man Kobe Bryant wasn't even handed like Michael Jordan but Michael Jordan had already perfected the game when Kobe Bryant came on the scene.like the old heads use to say to us there's no room for second place.
Skills, athletics, rule changes, different eras none of that matters. What matters is just how much of a competitor MJ is. Lebron could never match Mike’s Will to win at all costs. A huge part of it was Lebron was so gifted and so big and strong at a very young age. He always had to play a bit softer and not bully kids. That crept into his mentality on the court. If Lebron had Jordan’s killer instinct he would be by far the greatest. But he doesn’t and for that reason even if Lebron breaks every record it’s still MJ!!!
Nash nailed it. MJ put the fear in people’s hearts, he was a killer and he made sure you knew it.
Nobody ever lost a night’s sleep before a game with Lebron.
Okay I think we are being a bit too dramatic here. I'm sure lebron has instilled fear on his opponents at some points but the frequency is what makes it unmatched.
@@rizoschristodoulou9815 lebron never scared the biggest threats in the pool.
think about this out of everybody lebron has faced in finals the leading player has beat lebron first.
all except durant and butler.
but literally the spurs,warriors & dallas had made crazy examples out of him.
@@monkukudagod1 not only that but look what a bench player in Jason Terry did to LBJ, he called out his defense and proceeded to outscore him. Then a young Kawhi in 2013 finals who averaged 13 ppg in the season completely outplayed him the last 3 games. A young Curry also beat him, we ain’t even mentioning a lot of above average players who pushed LBJ to 7 games. Even the young/inexperienced Suns last year. LBJ fans act like the Raptors (before Kawhi) were afraid of him, like naw them fools were just bad vs everyone.
@@eazyduzit-tr3nx lebron is an amazing player no one can take that from him...but getting swept in finals twice is crazy
@@monkukudagod1 but look at the teams tho. Bron was 22 against a Spurs dynasty and when u go to 2018 he had a team full of nobodies it’s just he was more experienced in the game
3 rings, LEAVES THE GAME FOR 2 YEARS, comes back and wins another 3.
On that note, he did it in the years where the foul calls today didn't exist.
MJ is on a different level. Absolutely the best pro player ever!
I recently rewatched the 2011 nba finals heat vs Mavs. Heat were leading by 15 pts or so with very little time left. Mavs went on an absurd run to win the game, take the wind out of the heats sails and eventually win the series. One thing stood out for me, was the lack of Leadership on the part of LeBron. Everytime down the floor it was him or a teammate shooting brick after brick. No way that sort of thing would happen to peak MJ, especially in the NBA finals. I will give credit to Bron for winning vs an atg warriors team in 2016 but that's it.
How can anyone watching all these NBA legends say all of this about Jordan and someone still says LeBron is better makes no sense. No one has more credibility than actually NBA players that played with or against both.
Only players who call 📞 Lebron the 🐐 are the ones whose either salty or play in today weak 💧 down NBA.
Yep. They have no reason to soothe Mike's ego.
Exactly. Even if you look at these UA-cam clips of MJ. How aesthetically pleasing his game was. He had it all. I haven't seen anyone better than MJ.
@@awesom2bemelonestar10 And you probably never will. He's was a once in a lifetime show.
@@russelturner5771 LIke bruce lee? or was Bruce Lee fake? I dont think he was.. The man did 2 finger one handed pushups amongst other physical accomplisments.. he obviously trained in SOMETHING..
What you can pick up from The Last Dance that will really answer this is that players were absolutely intimidated by MJ. Teammates, opponents, even coaches. Everyone. Lebron is just not like that. He's physically intimidating, but the atmosphere he creates is just not on that level. Only Kobe came close to inducing MJ level fear.
Oh come on…it was produced by Jordan…what do you expect?
@@nuendo2496 6 of 6 in Finals... come on now... LeBron has been to the Finals like 30 times already and hasn't even reached Kobe level. He's been in the NBA what 21 years? Jordan played 15... it's not even close my guy. Best offensive and defensive player in the entire league, never seen that before and hasnt been seen since.
@@WilloPR LeGoat !!!!
@@WilloPR he surpassed kobe in 2010...if we're using rings as the measuring stick let's crown Russell
So you’re saying Jordan was an a hole and LeBron a great guy, a team builder.
“Everybody wants to play like Mike!” That’s it. Case close! Period!
I've been blessed to see Kareem, Magic, Dr J, Bird, Jordan, O'Neil and now LeBron.. I can tell you that it was a whole different basketball back in 80's and 90's then today.. I doubt Lebron lasting 10 seasons back in the day.. Defenders would have ruff up James and would have him crying..
who bill lambier? He would put those guys in an ambulance lol he would be playing by those same rules too ya know
@@jamesmatthews6520 hahahaha you funny bro...
This is crazy how people say that Jordan would adapt to these era but lebron wouldn’t be able to take the punishment from the 90s and the skinny defenders back then. Man if Jordan was running the court in these era i bet he wouldn’t have the same number of all-defensive teams he has right now. That man be too tired to carry an offense plus be a great defender. Plus with all the great stars and teams, he doesn’t win 6 chips.
Have you ever watched MJ play basketball?? The man was on a different level than anyone else. You cant rate Jordan on a scale because he is above the scale..
I always laugh when people say MJ 🐐 didn’t pass the ball as much as LeBron. Like, dude, you probably don’t know the “playmaker MJ” who had 10 triple doubles in 11 games in 1989! He clearly was capable of doing the same thing as LeBron has been doing today, PLUS his defense. So I don’t wanna hear this narrative over and over again.
(Ps. I was born in 2000 but I’ve just watched a lot of MJ games, so I know)
And thats while he was serving a stint as point guard instead of shooting guard. If you asked him to, he'd put up the Westbrook numbers and then some, except without any of the Westbrick weaknesses.
Jordan averaged 11 assists per game in 1991 finals.
MJ could have averaged a triple double for a season if he WANTED to do that.
Alot of players are capable of doing things, but they don't all consistently do them do they?
Not to mention when he got those 10 triple doubles the back story before it was fire because In 1989, Bulls head coach Doug Collins decided to switch Michael Jordan to play PG after MJ expressed frustration at the team's offense. Over the final 24 games of that season, Jordan averaged 30.4 PPG, 9.2 RPG, and 10.7 APG, including a stretch where he had 10 triple doubles in 11 games. So although in a 11 game stretch he had a triple doubles in 10 of those games stretch he almost had an averaged of a triple double in 24 games which is fucking insane
I would pay to see nick wright tell barkley that lebron is the goat.
Charley Barkley gonna slap him right on the damn spot, right on the damn spot. If he, a media personality tell him Lebron James is a great player is as good as Michael Jordan, competes like Michael Jordan, he's gonna slap him right on the damn spot and Barkley just gonna try his chances in the judiciary system.
Barkley's words, not mine.
And Shannon sharpe
That would be awesome. Add Jay Williams.
@@mikelowrey__ man Shannon whooping Barkley ass, lol.
@@reodagreo7637 lol, that's because Barkley's old now. This dude body slamming Shaq and throwing cats out of restaurant windows in his prime. Shannon is big, but he ain't that dude.
MJ ! The TRUE G.O.A.T.
I think what's interesting is that Durant who is still playing / said MJ was the best. Players who are as great as Durant don't normally say someone else is better. .
MJ - 1st; Kobe - 2nd; & LeBron 3rd. LeBron's game is less exciting to watch, & both MJ & Kobe were more HEROIC to their teams.
This should be anybody’s answer to this question “ bron is great, but he’s not Jordan “
I love Chuck, he consistently tells it like it is and makes me laugh, lol!
When he asked do u wanna compete lol
Lebron had to put together his own "Dream Teams" in order to win. Michael could win no matter what.
Jordans mentality ALONE destroys all of Lebron's accomplishments. And I know this is going to hurt some people's feelings but LeBron is not even #2, or #3 maybe #4 but that's as close as he will get to Jordan.
I agree 100% with that...
Let that sink in for people who don't realize how good MJ was. He was the best offensive and best defensive player in the league at the same time. Nobody could shut down his offense but he could shut down the offense of any elite players in his time. He was fierce on both sides of the court, a complete player. His skill level is unmatched to this day. When people excel at other sports they say, so and so is the MJ of volley ball or the MJ of golf; that is how good MJ was. He is the golden standard of excellence in all sports.
Olajuwon owned him....don't get mad, google.
@@pickzkickz Hakeem was a beast. But he never won the big one when MJ was in the league. He won 2 when he retired. Then MJ came back and won 3 more.
LeBron is one of the greatest.
But to me he's not greater than MJ.
Why?
MJ didn't look for excuses when he failed. He didn't recruit other stars to join nor bandwaggons to increase the chances to win a chip sooner.
He was fearless and only got better when being challenged and taunted.
I'm all about MJ, but lmfao at @ "he didn't recruit other stars" Bulls in their prime were PACKED (imo talent wise they weren't too far away from GSW with KD)
@@sahasrara3087 recruiting is responsibility of the front office not by players.
That is my point.
LeBron certainly crossed that line.
@@sahasrara3087 true
@@sahasrara3087 Tell me one player he recruited? Pippen, Armstrong, Grant were drafted by the bulls. They traded one of the best rebounders Oakley for Cartwright who was a rotation player at best. Kukoc came after th 1993 championship, after MJ's first retirement. Same goes for Longley. The only player after MJ's return who came to the bulls was Rodman. And that just because Grant left the Bulls. So, please don't tell me Jordan recruited superstars.
So LeBron should have just stayed with a mediocre Cavs team and wasted his whole career? Then people would compare him to Barkley.
Thanks 🙏🏻 Rodman finally someone agrees with me MJ all day
I have been around for quite awhile, seen thousands of games, and nobody comes close to MJ. He was clutch like no other. His creativity to score is unmatched. His defense was unbelievable. Lebron’s block on Iggy in the finals that everyone marveled about was routine for MJ. While Lebron is bigger, MJ was a lot quicker. His first step was unbelievable. And when it came to being flashy, smooth, athletic, MJ no doubt. I just feel fortunate that I got to watch him in my lifetime.
Furtunate is a great way to describe it. The anticipation. Knowing that at any second you might see something that you've never seen before.
But hasn’t hit more clutch shots than Bron😂😂
@@donkrider72caprice Jordan never choke in a series Bron did to many times
@@donkrider72caprice Jordan never been to game 7 🐐
The league recently toughen up the rules. You can’t hook arms and shoot, can’t flop, can’t really run plays for free throws. That has hurt a lot of players, James Harden being the best example. The rules were more tougher in the 90s than the adjustment now, still. No one can put up numbers jordan did with easier rules now. What does that say?
That Jordan is an alien with super soldier serum 🤣
@@MrSailorboykelly lol
james got 19 free throws recently
he really isn't hurt by the rule change
Exactly what I’ve been saying. Jordan played in a league where the paint was guarded like the White House lol. Lebron is a menace but he’s played in a league that allows free lanes to the basket multiple times a game. Still a great player though and a top 10 player of all time (Probably top 5 but not imo personally)
Btw 4 or so months later and it seems like the rules have softened up again😔
Seeing KD in the thumbnail reminded me how LeBron didn't wanna guard him in that Final minute of a critical Game 3 in the 2018 Finals. Dude rather stay on 6'3 Steph Curry and pass the 2nd Best player of the 2010s decade to Bench player Rodney Hood.
Tbf KD was more or less equal to LBH between 2014 to 2016. Since 2017 he has been better than LBJ. Also one could argue after the 2018 season Harden has also now surpassed LBJ. I mean Kawhi, Harden, KD, Curry, & Giannis are probably the top 5 players. Then the next 5 AD, Jokic, Kyrie, LBJ, & Damian. Although Luka, Booker, Porzingis, Zion are going to be the next ones coming up. After LBJ, Melo, Westbrick, Rondo, etc. are out.
curry was the second greatest player of the 2010s
@@JKTProductionzIncNCo jordan is clearly the goat but durant wasn’t better than Lebron until 2019.
@@JKTProductionzIncNCo never talk basketball
@@JKTProductionzIncNCo Durant was only better in 2017 finals and 2019
McGrady is laughing at Pippen because Pippen made some comments about Jordan not being better than LeBron and he was scolded for that and now he was trying to make another statement saying that Jordan much better. Pippen is one of my favorite players but he lost his basketball Credit coming at Mike
MJ could pass he didn't pass a lot but when he passed, he always made the right pass. John Paxton-Steve Kerr.
When LBJ gets 5 rings (like Kobe).... Then we will talk about who's second best .....
Dude it’s not about rings. It’s about performance..
Except Kobe only had 2 finals MVPs. And 1 regular season MVP. And Lebron passed him in scoring when he's not even a shooting guard. Try again.
It’s not about rings he can get 100 rings for all I care Jordan is still better every player who’s played with both lebron and Jordan would agree😂🤣
with all the hand checking in the 90's he still couldn't be stopped. incredible player on both ends of the floor
a WHOLE LOT of hand-checking. lol
"I don't get 5 championships here without him" - Kobe's comment about Michael Jordan 🐐 in the Last Dance Documentary
Watching this video 📹 brought back so many memories 👍
After thinking about it, I don’t think Jordan or many of the past greats would be able to thrive if they played today, because they would get bored of it too quickly. The game today isn’t fun to watch at all.
I can't really watch it hardly anymore and I've always loved basketball.
Golden state is super fun to watch
That's why MJ is the OG "":D
Jordan would actually dominate much more with todays weak rules. Not being able to get physical whole guarding him will give him more opportunities to score.
@@dredgewalker I AGREE 100%!
The aspect of MJ’s game that has always amazed me the most is the fact that I have rarely ever seen him call for or utilize the screen to help him get to the rack ANY WAY he could/or wanted to!! He had Horace Grant, Rodman, Pippen, and a few other large bodies to work around too!! Luc Longley, Ron Harper, and Toni were all better than average players as well, but MJ IS THE GOAT!!
Every team in the league contributed a chunk of MJs salary because they owed him for filling the seats. Legit, the other teams paid him to play against them.
MJ dominated a league at 6'6" and 200 lbs. Lebron is 6'9" 250 lbs. If MJ was Lebron's size I don't think it would improve his game. However if Lebron was 6'6" and 200 lbs he wouldn't be as menacing as MJ was. You can't compare eras because Lebron's size and today's game is drastically different. Also Lebron's stats have always benefitted from playing along side other superstars, Wade and Bosh, Kyrie and Love. Today's game is mostly 1 on 1 iso. Jordan would dominate the league.
Jordan was coming for your soul that’s why he took everything personal, is not a joke, he want destroy everybody, that is mentality.
He never lost a final…NEVER!
Kobe and Bron are the best human being who ever played the game, but man but MJ is the best of aliens that ever land on this earth! He was from another world…and these are FACTS! 🤷🏻♂️
Robert Horry never lost a Finals either. And u gotta make it to the Finals to win/lose a Finals. Jordan fans are the only fans in the world that glorify losing before the Finals over losing in the Finals.
He never even had to go to 7th game.Put his opponents out of their misery early.
@@allenlucas1676 Robert Horry never carried any team on his back either.MJ lost because he didn't have his crew yet.Once he got his crew it was a wrap.
@@allenlucas1676 Dont be a clown. Robert Horry is a role-playing player.
@@allenlucas1676 cool Robert horry never lost, mj was the best on those teams as he won finals mvp every time. Also, U saying that “u gotta make the finals to win them” is invalid as Jordan was playing on a bad team until scottie pippin and Horace grant developed. And when he lost against Orlando he had not even played many games and was put in the playoffs.
The biggest difference comes down to rules. MJ played in an era when other teams were allowed to beat the crap out of him. Lebron plays now when the rules are more strict about fouls. I think Jordan could adapt to today's rules but I don't think LeBron's mindset would allow him to adapt to getting hammered every night. That's why I think Jordan is the best.
Only mindset ?
Is a jordan a better player to u skillfully
Or just because of his mind set?
@@densincomprehend8879 I think Michael is more skilled and has more of a killer mindset. Lebron is close but I would always pick Michael first because his entire package of skill and attitude elevate him above the rest.
@@densincomprehend8879 bro Kobe is better … all that stat padding in a soft league ain’t mean much 😂
@@Definitelyitsallgood lol i agree kobe better then lebron
@@Definitelyitsallgood I don't agree. Whenever LeBron was the best he was the best of all, in league or team. Kobe let himself be outshone (3 times) by other like Shaquille. Shaquille had to be injuried and then leave to Kobe become the teamstar. I think they are in the same level, but LeBron went farther.
The dream!!! Greatest center ever. Jordan is from another dimension.
his huge hands made him really , really special. You just don't see those palming the ball moves in the air these days. Those moves he did because of his hand size made him a human highlight reel.
MJ did NOT have a passing weakness, Thats absurd!!! MJ got passed to period and when he felt like passing his passes were just as good as his scoring
It's a silly narrative created just to give LeBron something over MJ. The fact is Jordan was a phenomenal passer, he was just that good that more often than not it was better if he didnt pass the ball. John Starks 3.6, Steve Kerr 1.8, Reggie Miller 3.0, Mitch Richmond 3.5, Latrell Sprewell 4.0, Clyde Drexler 5.6, Michael Jordan 5.3 assists per game. Jordan had a weak passing game, not for his time he didn't LeBron at 7.4 well isn't a knock on LBJ his tendency to pass instead of shoot in clutch moments?
MJ averaged like what 5-6 assists in his Career. And when asked to be a point guard he averaged 10+ assists.
MJ could have been the best point scoring guard if he played that position his whole career. But, I wonder if his team won more or less rings.
When MJ took over he stopped hall-of-fame players from getting rings. That's all I need to know to call him the GOAT.
He and Charles Barkley had several battles and CB has absolutely not one ring! Damn
they made rules to slow down Jordan, now they're making rules to speed up James.
It is really the qay Jordan took over games. I recently watched the last minutes of his final bulls game. He got the ball basically every single time, he was the one who took the last deciding shot for the championship. Not by surprise, everybody expected this. But nobody could stop him from scoring. He never stepped back from this responsibility.
Please observe the players calling Jordan the Goat and the players calling Lebron the Goat. You will see that players like Kendrick Perkins, Richard Jefferson, Ryan Hollins, and so on are the ones calling Lebron the Goat. It is so funny that no top 20 greatest of all time player has called Lebron the Goat before except him. Kareem still has a better case than Lebron.
And most of those players who pick LBJ over everyone have been linked to klutch sports and the two main analysts on fox Shannon/Nick have been on record before stating MJ was the goat. They changed their tune once those klutch sports checks started coming through.
What you said meant nothing, MJ isn't the goat, and it can't be proven.
My personal opinion, MJ is the GoaT. THEN we have Kareem, Magic, Kobe. And then we have LeBron and Bird.
I've seen the stats, but there's nothing like to see them play, and I've seen them all play. The intensity, the drive and sheer artistry that MJ had, it's unmatched. Also he's never lost a final and never went to game 7 in the finals, and that carries a shit ton of weight.
@Meer Meer How bout you shut up keyboard warrior, don't get all emotional about your childhood crush not being the goat.
@Meer Meer Nah definitely not hurt, it's just you MJ fans making things up as always, trying to put y'all guy as the goat.
Wanna know who the GOAT is? He's the guy that every other player compares themselves with. Case closed.
lebron? lol..
It’s good to hear that players who played against both MJ and Lebron can have a good first hand experience. Overall picking MJ as the goat