This phone costs less than AirPods! - POCO M5s
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
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POCO has been making great budget phones for years now and their latest M5s looks to continue the trend of shaking up the flagship space. Bell's here to see if the M5 is worth checking out or if the price tag is too good to be true.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 But how?!
0:24 The loot box
0:56 Unboxing
1:34 Design, buttons, ports, and cameras
4:45 Sponsor - Secret Lab
5:06 Display, specs, fingerprint scanner, and bloatware
7:28 Speaker impressions
7:56 Camera testing
10:16 Gaming and battery life
11:20 Missing features, pricing, competitors, and overall thoughts
12:59 Outro - Наука та технологія
If he's happy to do them, more Bell on camera please. Absolutely killed it here!
Yeah, I love Dan but felt a void when he stopped appearing on WAN show, so it's great to see him here!
No.
no thanks annoying voice not good for presenting
I love it
The only thing smoother than Bell's voice here were his transitions between talking points. Top notch work!
We all agree Bell is great on camera, but kudos to the editor giving music that really suits his voice and energy. Nice vibes.
no thanks annoying voice not good for presenting
This fan is Redmi Note 10s 😂😂😂😂😂 .
Redmi Note 9 Pro Max (Redmi Note 9s)
Poco💩
I guess today is Cheap Phone Day at Linus Media Group.
Another CCP-phone which phones home when Xi orders it to. No, thanks 🤮👎
Cheap is relative
@@valtarg1299 your mom is relative
@@curiousfullstacks your mom is relatively cheap
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
I'm going to guess that the extra 2 gigs of ram isn't actually ram. Some phones (samsung for example) will things "in memory" on the flash storage. Still faster than loading from scratch, but slower than actual ram.
it is exactly that, i have a poco f3 and most pocos have that option. Useless imo if you have anything more than 4gigs of ram on the phone but it can be turned off tho
So basically swap files, what every operating system has done for decades, now sold as a new feature... Geez
and it wears out your actual storage way faster. storage is one of the most common parts of the phone that fails.
because it's not supposed to be regurally used as RAM. it's just in case if the main runs out and not supposed to be using it as RAM actually...
(it degrades storage too)
Just wanna throw in this Techquickie from 8 years ago
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I like Bell, he is very fluent (for not being in front of the camera that much) and punctual with the information!! Great work mate, I'd love to watch more ShortCircuts with Bell
This man can read the phone book and I would be enthralled.
ecstatic
IR blaster is such a nice thing to have, its a shame we don't see it more!
I have a phone with one, but I've never found myself in a position do to get into to using it instead of included remotes.
Probably because my dad is too cheap to buy a new TV that lets me use it 😏
I had a phone with IR for 5 years, now that it died, I felt like I lost an arm... been using it around the house with TVs and airconditioners.
Agreed. I have a Poco X3 Pro and I use the IR blaster for TVs and an RGB led strip (though this requires a different app, vRGB).
That's why im keeping my Poco F2 as second phone to my ip 11 pro
I hate searching for AC remote when travelling
@@gets0410 Sadly Harmony Hub is now unsupported but I'm sure there's an alternative out there. And prolly cheaper than Hub was.
The best part of Short Circuit is the host variety and Bell is no exception. A different flavor with every person
I have been using my Poco F2 Pro for a few years now, and I still love it. The IR blaster is making it hard for me to switch to a phone without one.
My f2pro died recently, switched to realme gt neo 3t.
Everything almost the same, but I still miss ir blaster and 3.5 Jack.
@@ashfaw wait the f2pro has a headphone jack?
get a xiaomi phone (they own poco and redmi btw) almost all of them have an ir blaster
@@GigantTech i thought about it, but at the time I bought 3t 8/256 at nearly 2/3 of anything at the same level Xiaomi offers.
I took a hit on 3.5 and ir, but got snap 870 and 8/256.
My bt headphones are with ldac, so 3.5 is not much needed.
Oof, a fellow F2 Pro user in the wild. This phone is a beast but flashing a custom rom make its shine
Poco phones are amazing but as a heads up they usually subsidize the cost by cramming the phone with apps that display ads, if you buy 'em be sure to check a guide on how to turn the ads off.
Idk, I don't have problems with ads.
@@Rudy97 It takes 5 minutes to disable them
also they are not really "cheap" its a fake price they put at the start so it gets headlines like this video title
@@mod4rchive wdym fake price? I've bought all my pocos and redmis at or under MSRP, never had a problem.
@@The4valanche I think they mean that they will announce an "early bird" price that's cheaper than msrp if you pre-order, but then it goes back to msrp. I wouldn't say it's that big of a deal since you can wait a bit for it to go on offer.
I had Poco X3 and then Poco F3. Loved them both. Got an amazing deal on the Pixel 6, so I got rid of the F3 but it's my fav phone ever. If the camera was a little better I'd have kept it for many many years.
yea the f3 is amazing
I also got an amazing deal on a pixel 6, really miss headphone jack though
The F3 is such a great phone. Got it for 300 bucks, what a value!
not thay amazing always switching from 120h to 60hz , apps don't work properly, glitching and unstable UI. Great Hardware but trash software by trash the worst that I use, I also have samsung a53 while that phone hardware is wayyy inferior it still more stable and snappier. Genshin Impact is probably the app/game f3 that play better than a53
@@xMig27x Huh I'm using the f3 and I don't get any of the issues you mentioned.
Finally Jake is on camera fully, nice voice and really good camera presence btw! 💪
no thanks annoying voice not good for presenting
Lol Jake?
@@KingOfCorinth his name is jake bellavance
Nobody:
LTT Fans every time someone who never goes on camera goes on camera:
Wow it was so refreshing to see someone new, please bring them on camera more often. They did so well it's nice to see other staff do review on things.
In all seriousness, ya'll do great! Just love how every time a new person is on camera you always see these comments lmao
they didn't do this with Tech Lincoln
How does the "nobody:" here add anything to this joke format? xD I'm probably missing something but it just means "no one asked" but in a more meme way
@@mini-wk4nr lmao please join me in posting this in future LTT videos
Awesome cover. This is the one thing missing on LTT and ShortCircuit. Along with Linus' cover of the A53, you guys are really branching out. Kudos!
Had a poco f3 for a while. Amazing phone for the price
I have a poco X3 for 2 years, have installed custom rom and this is a best combo that can beat most mid range phone
Love how much effort and care you guys put into less relevant hands ons like this, also the dynamic between employees is just always something that cracks me up. I know LMG it's a big brand at this point, still like to comment when you're doing something right though.
Another Like for Bell. Also, yes, I would like to see more mid-low end phone reviews. The LTT video from today was appreciated as well.
I have the pro variant of this, Redmi note 10 pro. It has everything this poco has with 120 Hz super amoled display, amazing stereo speakers, glass back, sd 732g, 6 gb ram and 128 gb storage, replaces the 2 mp macro with a 5 mp macro with auto focus that takes amazing macro photos and costs $170
The dynamic RAM option uses your phones storage as a swap space if you run low on RAM from what I understand.
I could listen to him all day
I would really enjoy more budget phone reviews. I buy a new phone about every 18 months on a under 300$ budget because I'm a clumsy broke boy and having reviews from a channel I trust like LMG is much nicer than trying to get a sense of what's out there from lots of other places I'm not familiar with. In a similar vein, a video on new vs used phones on a budget would be awesome and very helpful!
Im loving this type of videos, FINALLY you all are making videos with affordable phones cause not everybody lives in a first wolrd country
In my experience, Gorilla Glass 3 was the best. Didn't scratch at all. After that they made it slimmer and was prone to cracking at even the slightest of falla.
absolutely, have had exactly the same experience.
Oh, damn. I thought I was just looking at Gorilla Glass 3 with rose-tinted glasses. Glad to see someone else with this experience.
Glass that "don't scratch at all" sounds too optimistic
Yes, some more budget phones please.
I don't own a budget phones but they are pretty interesting and it's very intriguing
Him: Just don't drop your phone and your camera is the most important.
Me: We are too different, this relationship will never work.
Need a link to that SC wallpaper on your desktop
Great hosting! Nice delivery of info and timing with jokes. You need more camera time!
Don’t comment much but this might be one of the best videos on the channel. Doesn’t Feels like half assed like so many do. Bell is so good at this. Need more of him
Excellent observation on the bloatware aspect. I, like everyone else love when phones have zero bloatware. But having used poco, redmi, xiaomi phones for years now, what I realized is, most of the MIUI apps come in handy at some point
Poco note 10s 😂😂😂
"Dynamic RAM" is basically a page file (if comparing to Windows) or a swap partition (if comparing to Linux). I have a Poco X3 Pro myself (8gb ram variant) and it has a setting called "Memory extension" that's basically that and adds 3gb ram, well kind of but I have no need for it so I turned it off. Bloatware was a bit of a pain due to having to resort using ADB to remove them (uninstalled on userspace and not running but still on ROM).
I have my POCO F3 now for over 1,5 years and it never disappointed me. Some might argue with MIUI being bad and slow, but imo it's just like many things a personal preference and opinion.
Does the AOD stay turned on with the newest MIUI or its still only 10 sec?
I had a Poco F1 and loved it. Super cheap but flagship soc. Yes it was the highest spec Snapdragon at the time. No water resistance or glass back. But I actually really liked that. Super easy to replace the LCD when there's no glued back panel or IP rating. Replaced it three times 🤣.
Isn't replacing it 3 times meant it wasn't that tough nor environmentally friendlier than a phone that doesn't break at all and can be used for 5/6 years?
@@aiki6378 I break all my phone's 🤣. Nothing bad about the Poco F1. The last time I replaced the LCD i had already bought another phone. I kept the Poco as a backup phone. I changed the battery at the same time.
I just wish they supported them longer.
Another CCP-phone? It phones home when Xi wants. No, thanks 🤮👎
I also want a xiaomi 13 pro for 200$
Change ROM :)
Still rocking a poco f1
@L. G. I rocked my redmi note 4 for 4 years, it was always as smooth as new.
I had a POCO and it was great at first.
But then I started getting spam notifications and the phone would go so slow that I can barely use it.
I tried factory resetting it but it would still get really slow after an hour or so.
I was constantly having to use their memory cleaner function which was also stuffed with ads.
I don't trust their software / brand anymore.
I would love to see more good budget phones reviewed, great work!!
There are many phones that are priced lower than airpods
TIL idiots pay 240 bucks for headphones. I thought they were legit 60-100 bucks.
@@Thedude897 Yeah, I didn't want to pay for my headphones until it dropped in price on Amazon to $115.
And I probably won't buy another one unless it's in that price range.
On top of that, I only have $10 Skullcandy headphones that I bring with my laptop. Even if I get some much nicer in-ears someday, I would want decent Bluetooth in-ears for $100 at most
@@Thedude897 I paid $20 for a really nice pair of tws
@@Thedude897 no, Airpods are not $240 USD (I assume that's the currency you're using given your use of the term "bucks" though I guess CAD isn't out of the question. If you do mean CAD then you can ignore this whole thing.) The most recent version of regular Airpods are $180 USD. Jake, the host of the show, said very specifically that he did not mean the Pros, which are $250 USD for the latest version.
@@moldyshishkabob I bought my Sony WF-1000XM3's (the in ear true wireless headphones, not the over the hear WH-1000XM3. I hate Sony's naming scheme) for $60 USD refurbished. They have ANC and pretty good audio. Having tried Airpod Pros, they are technically worse, but not by enough to make it worth the price premium.
The IR blaster is super super useful. Very convenient to set it up with the TV and receiver and be able to control them from one device without having to find a remote.
Very useful for fucking with TVs in stores. Goodbye ads.
I have been using the Poco f2 pro for years now and I don't plan on changing it, unless it dies. The front camera is hidden and pops up from the top mechanically if you need it. The IR blaster has been set up to control all the air cons around the house and I love it :D
EDIT: The fast charging in Poco is a tad crappy, I have burned through 2 sets of flat cables and now I have normal wires soldered instead of the flat ones, hopefully they can withstand the fast charging. Batter lasts 2 days of normal use and 1 day if you game.
I loved this unboxing. Very precise and on point all the time.
Glad to see Bell in more videos. Love Dan but there is something about Bell's voice in the background on WAN show that is just enjoyable.
Watching this on a regular M5 that I bought insanely cheap on a New Year's sale (like 100$ + taxes), I absolutely love it. It's amazing what kind of hardware you can get in the budget segment right now, wouldn't even dream about it 2-3 years ago.
100$ 🤯???
@@OkarinHououinKyouma$120-125 with retail tax, but was also buying it through my company so I can deduct the tax later. Listed the base value because many countries do not tax retail sales this much and either way the price was crazy attractive for what the phone offers. ;)
@@alchemik666 how is it for like normal usage?
@@OkarinHououinKyouma Pretty snappy, used an older Huawei phone from $200 range before it that was still holding on well, but M5 beats it in every metric. Apart maybe from Wi-Fi reception, the M5's antenna isn't that great. Other than that, no complaints with everyday use, running all kinds of apps or lighter games like World of Tank Blitz. Also no issues with bloatware, there are some pre-installed apps I never use and spent like an hour managing apps after turning it on for the first time, but there are some useful things (like a very rich selection of themes) and nothing genuinely intrusive. Also, just like with the S model, the battery life is phenomenal.
I've got myself the M4 Pro 4G and it honestly is amazing. a 10th of the price of a flagship with all the same specs
Albeta's 5G coverage is fairly extensive and i use it all the time. I barely notice the difference between being at home and being on a hill watching UA-cam (other than the data saver settings I keep enabled)
After 3 years of using a under display fingerprint I much prefer the scaner to be in the lock button, they are pretty fast and pretty reliable when you are wet or have dust on the hand.
Ok two things lol I have never seen this guy but this is one of my top short circuit episodes I liked his style. Now second he said the pictures looked pretty solid but appeared to be a completely different ethnicity in the photo on the phone lol. Either way looks like a solid phone for a younger kid that maybe prone to breaking phones or a parent like mine that literally send 10 texts a day and the rest is phone calls/google searching a quick answer.
He's usually the guy who's voice you hear from off screen
What features does a $1000+ dollar phone have that this doesn't and would you actually use any of the extra features. Why wouldn't this be a phone for your average smartphone user? Just interested!
Love seeing Bell on camera and the set looks awesome!
Just finished watching the A53’s review and now we have another budget phone? Awesome.
Great camera presence Jake! Thats his first hosting, right? I dont remember seeing him host a video alone.
I buy a new phone every couple of years and usually go with whatever the current Moto G is, for around $200-250 simply because they are the definition of "good enough" but I am interested in something a little better in that price range.
Yeah Moto Gs are good enough. I use one.
Finally someone who cares about the product their showcasing on Short Circuit
Probably because they gave him a shirt 👕 🤪
You can unlock it from table if you add index finger fingerprint, Gorilla Glass 3 is maybe less scratch resistant but it is more drop resistant than newer gorilla glass, the dynamic ram is 6+2GB because it uses 2GB form storage which is slower.
I have the M5 version, and it is pretty good, uses it for school for a whole day, played games on breaks, and it is on 68%. The good thing on the camera is there's a lot you can do on its pro mode
3:40 Amazing advice! Honestly, game changing - you've completely changed my life, thank you Bell!
Yeah, how stupid of me to drop my phone on purpose, had to watch a video to learn that it's not the way to treat a phone.
loving this guy! Have him on some more please, very quick to the point. Thorough and seems like a great host for short circuit.
Super curious about more budget phones. I feel like the high end stuff loses flavor but there's a lot of variety in the low to midrange bracket much like PCs. Keep it up!
My old P20 Pro had an IR blaster. One time, on a ferry, the TV was on and obnoxiously loud. I picked up my phone, found the TV in the app and turned it down.
I've never seen people look that impressed.
Just a heads up. For those looking to buy it for T-Mobile, well it won't work. If it's not a "US" based phone, the IMEI won't register it with the carrier. It might have to do with the Xiaomi phone us policy type deal.
Damn !
this new faces in the Linus Tech Tips Multiverse is extraordinarily impressive. love it.
side fingerprint scanner are the best... just add another finger to use it on the table. It's way more comfortable to just use your index finger on the side than on top of the phone and also it would auto unlock as soon as you press the side button.
Fingerprint reader on the side is actually my preferred placement for a fingerprint reader. It doesn't prevent you from using it when your phone is resting on the table since you can just touch the side as naturally as touching the front, and an external sensor is always going to be faster and more accurate than an under-screen one.
Used to have a side fingerprint on my Sony Xperia (forgot which model), switched to under-screen on my Samsung Note 10+ and there's been a lot more annoyances for sure
I would like to see a video where you revisit past flagship phones that's been refurbished and how they are holding up today.
Wow, Bell did an incredible job hosting this video. Would love to see more of him in the future.
Rocking a redmi note 9s myself, cant wait for their new phones with snapdragon gen 2, the gaming performance is looking insane good with this new chip as somebody reviewed today.
Hey, nice music editors. Seriously comfortable mix with his voice.
Thanks for the solid vid and great voice to listen to Bell
I like going over budget phones! Please more!
Nice, I've been wanting to see Bell as a host ever since I first time heard his voice on the background in some video.
For those specs, at that price point it is hard to compete. I just go that "beta" Nothing Phone (1) for $300. Not exactly budget but compared to the other phones out there, for 8GB RAM + 128GB storage it's really hard to beat. I'd love to see more budget phone reviews because I think it's a market that's sorely missed here in west.
First time seeing this guy as a host and boy oh boy he is killing it !! Great job !!
6:00 it uses internal storage as "ram extension" it's andoird 12 feature, can turn it off.
Great video, lately this category of phones didnt receive alot of attention
I believe the budget/mid range phones are the most interesting these days
Same comment as the a53 vid, its great to see affordable stuff being reviewed
Bell looked like a Poco employee with that shirt 🤣
0:22 why was I expecting "is this segue, to our sponsor"
if you need an android phone for something, such as app testing, this is definitely a great, cheap option
This man needs to do more videos! 👌
Additional two things I would care about in a phone is repairability and custom firmware support. Would be nice to see at least some hints to those in reviews!
Simple answers would do: does it have a glass back panel? Any screws around the case? What are the steps to unlock bootloader?
Xiaomi midrange phones with snapdragon probably has the best custom ROM support this one is mediatek so nope it won't have that good. Bootloader unlocking is very easy for all Xiaomi phones the only thing is the first time you do you need to apply for it and wait for 1 week
The back is polycarbonate, do you mean like actual literal screws sorry I am confused lol, it's a simple process to unlock the bootloader as I said a 5 mins yt vid will help you
Hope I could help.
Wow he did really good. Not sure if it's his 1st video hosting but it's the 1st time I've seen him. Seemed very natural. Nice.
Yes please some more of that beautiful Bell voice in my ears
Wait, is that "mi remote" a remote app for the mibox and your tv?? That's amazing, I lost my mibox remote and hate needing to navigate through the awkward Google Home menu on my phone to get to the remote
Nice to see Bell on camera! Nice video
Just went from a poco m3 to an 11promax not cause I wanted to but that phones lasted years I can only imagine this one
I love the fact that Xiaomi puts macro cameras on their phones. I don't use my camera often, but I think from the times i did use it, I've used the macro camera the most. Taking apart electronics with little progress pics, to know where all the screws go, has never been easier! Just as handy as the IR blaster.
Also, did you put genshin into 60fps mode? I haven't seen a single phone that doesn't default to 30 at first.
my favorite phone i've ever had, an lg g3, had an IR blaster and it was great when the remote was lost in the couch or whatever
however all of my TVs now use bluetooth remotes and i don't like having all those devices paired so i see how it has less utility
At that price I'm half tempted to get one as a general purpose camera for streaming things like cooking and sculpting. Throw some IP camera software on it and you don't have to deal with a laptop (and maybe external webcam) to get what you want, just set it in a mini tripod with a cheap adjustable phone holder.
I have a Umidigi Bison GT Pro (8+256 non 5G) and it goes 3-4 days for me on a full charge, has a ton of features, is ultra reliable, great cameras, great screen, ip ratings and all the normal things you'd find on a far more expensive phone. My 3rd Umidigi now and they've all been really good phones, the Bison was about GB£280 when I bought it but prices vary, especially if you buy from Aliexpress or Banggood.
8:49 that's a nice pose right there. Artists should use it as reference.
even before the headphone jack issue, i hardly use it as i love wireless on peripherals from mouse keyboard and headphone/headsets ..
This guys voice is great for this. Soothing AF lol bring him back for another segment for sure
Loving having Bell on camera super good voice for videos
I still remember the budget pixel 3 video using the poco F1
The cropped pic of James is priceless😂😂😂😂
The "plus 2GB" RAM are basically just SWAP memory, a bit of flash storage reserved for times when the actual RAM is filled up.
I don't know how many times i looked into budget phones. Every time i think it would be enough for me and every time i by a flagship. So big thumbs up for the budget gone day.
I have the Redmi Version of this phone the Redmi Note 10S and I love it it's a very good phone for the price and love how it looks and it's also very good in battery life it lasts for a good while if you use it normally
Great review except, why take photos in portrait mode? Surely landscape would give a better view of the image as well as reducing the need to zoom simply for full screen image playback.
One thing to take in mind is that these phones have adds. Yeah...
You can avoid them easily, but they are there, specially in the pre instaled apps. Like fie explorer, themes, background, stuff like that.
The 2GB extra "RAM" is just swap partition.
I really enjoyed this video. Nice host & keeps it real. TBH I’m an iPhone 📱 user (14 Plus) but know I’m lucky in my situation. Glad phones like this exist & get coverage.
One absolutely important thing to note about an IR blaster. A lot of places, in Greece in particular, do not offer aircon included in the hotel room price, so you would have to pay a few euro to get a remote for yours. BUT if you have an IR blaster on your phone you will be able to use it for the AC unit!