Hit the Golf Ball Further with "Forearm Supination"
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Do you want to hit the golf ball farther? There are lots of ways to gain club head speed in the golf swing... but one I bet you haven't heard about is forearm supination. Sounds complicated, but in today's lesson I'll show you how this often overlooked factor can add serious distance to your golf swing.
We'll take a look at how baseball pitchers use this same principle to add velocity to their fastballs, and then give you a simple drill to practice at home. - Спорт
Best employable explanation of the use of the right hand and arm I have seen. So clear, so doable.
Great stuff Zach. Thank you so much for the tips
While I agree with everything you showed in this video, I was a tournament level tennis player and this is exactly how we hit a modern forehand, I would add that in golf, while this technique absolutely generates more speed, it introduces the 'potential' problem of more erratic face control through impact. The one thing I would add to you video, and I think it is extremely important, is that nearly all pros, as the clubs comes into Position 6, have the Toe of the Club slightly down, whereas most if not nearly all slicing amateurs, have the Toe of the club in a slightly toe open position - and the technique you are showing, on its own, is very likely to cause a further open face coming into impact. In fact, you can see many times in this video that as you are demonstrating the technique in slow motion, the club is open at position 6. I would thus add, that as a checkpoint when working on this technique, that it is critical to check the club's face angle at position 6 so that it is not open. The more you look to add to your source of power in this area of the swing using this technique, the more 'twisting' force you are going to have to apply to keep the face from being open while gaining the added power. When pros swings are compared to amateur swings using sensors, one of the many areas of big differences is the twisting force that they apply to the club in order to harness this increased lag - if you can't apply this type of force to offset the lag and control the face angle, you are not going to be hitting many fairways when you add this source of power. When I have shown this 'tennis' / baseball technique to people and shown them the position the club has to be in coming into position 6, and then had them hit 10 balls doing this, they all immediately will say that their right forearm is in pain - ie they have never used it to hit a ball before. Just found your channel - great video.
Thank you Zach! Best tip ever! I have searched for lag the last 30 years.. now with this swivel, which to me at first was the opposite to what I thought the right hand/forearm should do, I lag and speed up like a turbo! I had a very Good swing and decent power... but this is what I had been looking for. Thanks again. Mabye I will send you a before and after video 😁
Excellent video. Very helpful in understanding how to get body in correct position to get into your magic move to shallow the club.
Roger
Thanks for this excellent video Zach, I have been doing external extension of my right arm incorrectly hence why my elbow has been hurting. I will rehearse with the swivel of the arm/wrist. Looking forward to hitting some balls. Cheers!
That's a new move for me and with a couple of simple practice swings, it feels like a more natural throwing & swinging motion...Now the Hogan toss makes more sense with relation to the golf swing. Thanks, Zach.
That was the best explanation I’ve heard Zach. Thanks !
Thanks Zach, your explanations are on another level, really concise!
This completely improved my swing.
I had read elsewhere that the toe of the club closing through impact was an important contributor to clubhead speed. Now I know the information that was left out. A heartfelt thank you for all your clear instruction. This is a great piece of supplemental info to go with your "Ballstriking Blueprint."
Overbrook Studio great idea, will see if we can add this in.
Great stuff Zach, just like skipping stones!
Thank u. I am convinced I need this. I have it in my tennis serve, now to duplicate it to golf.
Thanks Zach, good stuff. For me, who has always lacked rotation, along with your insightful use of the right arm/hand motion I also like to think of fingernails of left hand up through impact. Although this is never achieved it aids me in arm rotation.
This highlights how important it is to have the proper grip on the club. For years my right hand was too much on the side of the club instead of on top. Really improves striking.
Great video
You are such a great teacher. You teach us things that other teachers never speak or show us. I've gotten so much better by doing these tips that you give. God Bless. and Thank You.
Robert James thank you for the great compliments, glad to hear you are getting better.
Hi Zac . Thank you for your dedication in helping us battlers out here. Is this total supination of the right wrist a new thing. Just wondering why you havent mentioned it before in previou videos, or have you ??wr
Zach,
When the left or right forearm is fully pronated, the wrist is DF/RD (i.e. cupped/cocked). When the left or right forearm is fully supinated the wrist is PF/UD (i.e bowed/uncocked). The Biokinetic Golf Swing Theory calls it "Omne trium perfectum" meaning that all things that come in threes are perfect if you want to learn more about it, but this is basic anatomy of how the human body works.
For a right handed golfer at last parallel pre-impact (i.e. P6 delivery/release postion that you are coaching golfer to get into in this video), the left forearm will be supinated and the left wrist will be PF/UD while the right forearm will be pronated and the right wrist will be DF/RD...call it counterwound hands on my RockBurke UA-cam channel. With a Hands Over the Top (HOTT) move in transition where the hands move up and also out toward the target line while the body stays still, the left shoulder joint will go IR and left elbow will go out and high while the right shoulder joint will go ER and right elbow will go out and low to free up the arms in transition so the body can move into position and resync with the arms and hands at P6 to be ready for the release move. This HOTT move will also allow the left forearm to further twist supinated and the right forearm to further twist pronated at P6.
Would appreciate it if you would do some self examination with the counterwound hands and HOTT move that I described and your body to gain a better understanding and learn more about your body. Would be cool for you to do a video with your newfound understanding which would be a great benefit to the golfers out there. I like how you explain your thoughts in your video and my intent is to provide guidance on what I have learned so you perform even better as a golf coacah. Best of luck and thank you for your efforts.
Thanks,
Rock
This is gold, feel weird, but after try it makes sense
So how is this different from opening the clubface up fully on the backswing???
Fantastic video, Zach. One question: Is left arm supination equally or more important than the right arm supination? . Is the idea of them working together or letting the left arm control it to avoid the right arm domination that leads to more problems? And thank you for your clarity on a really difficult, vital part of the golf swing. You did it masterfully.
Great video. so is this a right-handed or dominate hand golf swing?
excellent!!!
Would you recommend performing this action when doing speed training with sticks?
Great information Zack! Bradley Hughes has some great videos that I encourage golfers to check out. I watched a video of his in which he advocates the shaft drop behind the body on the downswing. I started using his swing tip and hit it very solid with a nice draw. Your suggestion to supinate the right arm creates the same position. Keep up the great instruction. Cheers
I was pronating the left wrist and it was hooking too often. Working on calibrating my swing yesterday on the range I realized as I was pronating my wrist it was rotating to the outside (away from my body). This caused my club head to close too much. I tweaked the pronation so my wrist rotates towards my body which led to better club face at impact.
The lead wrist pronation inwards causes the non-lead wrist/hand to point straight up (palm facing sky) at the top of the bsckswing.
Please correct me if I am wrong. If I understood your video correctly, I am on the right track with the pronation and rotation inwards.
Yes, this is another degree of freedom to exploit. It certainly looks like useful for increasing ball speed, but let me check at the driving range, if the consistency is as before.
I wonder if the extra wrist cock is worth the power. Not sure this provides accuracy or injury. Will be interesting to incorporate.
Hi Zach - How much increase of swing speed do you think we could get when properly executed ?
From 95 to 105 or so ? Am I correct when saying this concept (achieving more distance) is more important for the driver than for the irons ?
I have a bad right wrist any help or ideas
This eliminates "over the top" forever. Power in golf comes essentially from body rotation, not just the arms and hands. Timing this will square the club face when the rotation is continued, and is unconsciously learnt at the range when incorporating this forehand supination, producing the required feel. This action is one more component for adding effortless power.
"Skip a stone' across the pond is a great image.
Guys
You can't play below the swing arch, be careful with this move and getting the club behind and under, it will cause you to over rotate your body and forearms. Almost every tour player nowadays is doing everything they can to take forearms out of the swing, reducing clubface rotation. Although these moves can give you speed, it is one way to create speed, there are more efficient ways that will also keep the club square without face rotation.
There are two ways to play, Zach definitely demonstrates one very well here however, I would argue option 2 is more efficient and reliable.
I tried doing thing a few years ago and started drop-kicking the ball or hitting weak pull hooks. While trying to adjust my impact and keep this FEELING, I began sh@n*ing the ball. The speed of your body in correct alignment with a good grip will help you supinate and release the club. Your little muscles will feel like they're doing work but that isn't the case. Big muscles rule. Anything else will be inconsistent and require too many hours of practice. Slow down his swing and you'll see he's just swinging on plane. No magic hands. The feeling of throwing a ball is good. It can improve the downswing of most over-eager, over-the-top swings. Turning my wrist like that is painful and not how I throw any ball. Good luck
I have torn my rotator cuff and now I'm unable supinate my to rt arm much.my shoulder joint is arthritic so I don't have much movement for a lot of sidearm action. Any suggestions ?
Dennis Lavia that is tricky, would probably need to see you move in person, but the key is using all the healthy body parts to their full range of motion. This move would be difficult with a hurt shoulder.
tks
So the lead arm pronates in transition and then supinates through impact? I’m having a hard time feeling these two different concepts.
Thanks for the great tip. One correction however, supination is pronounced a bit differently than you have been saying it. It is more like soup-in-ation. John
natalie c thanks for the correction
As if that made any difference! I understood exactly what he was saying and here in the UK we pronounce it the same way as Mr Allen.
Serigio is probably the best example of that
Can you overdo this? Can this lead to being stuck?
Yes
Getting stuck is mostly a product of your pelvis, like turning it improperly, firing the legs at the ball, or early extending. Not what the arms are doing.
The actual clubface upon actual swing is not so shallow as the instruction. If its too much from inside, one is creating a draw or top spin , right to left spin onto the ball.
Ah, the missing link.
Aren't we NOT supposed to flip and roll the wrists over at impact?
I used this particular move, rotating the forearms open, and then rotating closed at impact for four or five years. I worked well for hitting the ball farther. But, then I developed a vicious hook, and was very inconsistent. I finally went back to just straight back and straight through. The true keep in golf is rotate the body. Not just the arm or hands.
Great question, the key difference is it’s not a wrist flip, it is forearm supination, with the wrist unhingeing. Notice as I hit half shots in the video, my swing does not appear flippy, however there is a large degree of forearm and wrist movement.
Hope this video doesn't do too much damage to free lesson seekers on UA-cam.
Yeah this is gonna be a mess for so many. Too much to think about it and too much movement. The body does this stuff naturally. The moment you think of it you ruin the flow
You da man…
Practiced this the other day. Liked how It gave the ball more velocity. But it’s a timing issue. I was always pulling everything left until I figured out I was over doing it at impact. The trick is to do short shots at first. Get your wrist use to doing a new movement. It kind of reminds me of the impact snap.
Sounds very good in theory. I can see that I will be hitting the balls all over the place😅
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Lol ok 👌 much easier just saying bow your left wrist
Obviously you dont understand that alot of people dont have the flexibility that you do. We cant get our elbow and hand to do what you can do.
Scott Lewis try and take advantage of whatever your particular range of motion is. One might argue, that it is even more important to implement some of this if there is a lack of mobility. If not it is going to be tough to the ball any significant distance.
This drill will open too much the club face. You will look like tiger but 90 yards to the right. The key is in rotation not in arm drills to have a nice iphone shallow swing
You must follow the motion all the way to the end. By pronating the right forearm/wrist on the release, the club squares. Watch the pitchers release by pronating.
It should happen naturelly, you can’t manipulate the club.
Best regards.Alain
Is this how small guys like Chi Chi Rodriguez were able to hit the ball so far?
richard johnson yes, look up some pictures of his swing, and notice where he is just before impact. Small man, but one of the longest on tour at the time.
I liked the video, but for those of us that are left-handed, but golf right-handed, practicing throwing a golf ball with our right arm doesn't make much sense.
We just learn how to do this move from Zach's video, it definitely improves the result of the swing