Hey TFL, have yall got an in order in for the new GMC sierra? If so what trim, and when will you get it? I have one ordered in the SLT and would love to see a real world walk around and road test (in the pacific blue with the dark walnut interior) ... Anybody have pictures of this exact example?
I own a 2nd Gen Raptor, when you buy something and drive it day to day, your view of what is important changes. The 20-22mpg for cruising on the highway is a pretty big perk when you go on trips, or a general commute too. While having a significant off road capability when you choose to do so.
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@@MrDawnkeeballs I am not gonna take a v8 seriously who loses to a v8 personally. I don't care what engine it has, if it can beat the shit out of other vehicles it's just badass, even more so for using a so called "less powerful engine". Porsche for example is highly respected for what they do.
@@raionshishi8290 sure if you’re talking about racing, take the faster engine. Ima be driving it as a daily so no I don’t wanna hear a little v6 sound coming from the engine bay of my full size truck 😂that’s laughable. In-line 6s have my respect tho, but not the v6s
A $65k base Raptor is well optioned for a daily driver where you have to spend $85k to on a level 2 TRX to get some of the “free” Raptor features. If you have the extra $20k for your fun Truck then TRX wins hands down. It’s great that Ford and now Ram have street legal trophy trucks available, golden age of automobiles!
Choosing power and acceleration for vehicles that are designed for off road capabilities is a very poor conclusion. You should test them in the environment they were developed for and choose the best one. That’s are many off road situations that power and acceleration are your worst enemy and weight and suspension are your best friend.
Jackyl Smith I fully understand your point. However both are fairly similar in there off road capabilities. Strong suspension with plenty flex, similar weight tho I think trx may be heavier and all the different drive modes which are very effective. Similar gearing ratios and low range gearing I would assume. The power is what differentiates them. There are certain circumstances off road where you need to absolutely power out of a situation and that's where the trx comes into its own. I'm not saying trx is better off road than raptor but just showing that power does make a huge difference
They make videos for the typical consumer. Most people who own these vehicles drive them way more on the street than offroad. This is the perfect comparison for the majority of people who will own these trucks.
@@anthonyramdin1037 Tho the thing is off roading is not about just power, and when it coms down to it, too power and too much weight is actually bad. The Raptor beats the TRX on any race because it's lighter and it has quick and easy power delivery, it's super nimble and quick around corners and certain areas where the TRX would have to brute force itself through, not to mention the amount of gasoline you would use, the Raptor would still be going down the trail while the TRX is dead in the water. So many factors they ignored, not to mention the Raptor beats the TRX in pretty much every category, same way the TRX did with the 2 gen raptor and everyone praised the heck out of it than so why isn't the raptor getting an advantage here ?
Excellent video with so much info. I like how you broke up the comparison into specific topics. I've already voted by ordering a TRX that has an estimated ship date in early March. Can't wait!
Couple things, I just got the 21 Raptor on 37s. It doesn’t require premium fuel. I’m sure it will run better on it. But when I was deciding between these 2, I was having a hard time thinking about paying for premium fuel knowing how bad they both drink gas. The other thing that put me over the top was all the infotainment issues I had with my 20 Ram 1500. I had a lot of touchscreen issues and Apple Car Play issues and knew that if I spent that much on a TRX and had those issues I would lose my mind. Love my Raptor!
My Ram had a lot of issues with the infotainment and Apple car play as well not to mention my transmission issues so I agree. I love the feel and look of my Ram but not the issues.
They're always trying to discount Ford with all these so-called better trucks. And yet when it comes down to sales leader Ford always stomps the composition and everything they say is better. Well done Ford. It only took Ram 20 years to catch up.
Love the TRX, take that any day of the week. Have always liked the looks of the Raptor just not a fan of the v6 and for this price point I want the best interior which goes to RAM.
I'm a huge Raptor fan but, gotta to agree , the TRX has the edge. Pretty hard to ignore the supercharged V8. It's not like Ford isn't already working on a V8 performance package but, I like the idea of the more fuel efficient turbo engines giving it some more range.
It’s not a fair comparison. You are comparing 3.5 eco-boost to supercharged V-8. BTW that eccoboost will smoke any other Ram 1500. Just not that supercharger.
@@daves913 price point is on par so how is it not a fair comparison what I find not fair is a Raptor costs the same price as the TRX and it comes with a V6 TT
rumor has it that the raptor r is getting the 5.2 supercharged V8 from the gt500. way to late if you ask me. and of course the price will be ultra premium
Hope everyone enjoys the Hemi while we have it. It doesn't sound like it will be around much longer. Also, would love to see a limited edition Raptor with a HO coyote or VooDoo engine. Or better yet a supercharged 7.3!!
The difference in suspension feel is probably most due to the 37” tires on the Raptor. It would be better to compare the 35” Raptor that has more suspension travel.
Nope. Would have a lot more to do w/ the fact the Raptor has proper 3.1” dual rezzy Active “live valve” FOX shocks & weighs around 700 lbs less than the TRX, while the TRX (700 lbs heavier over the nose btw) has 2.5” bilstein shocks (consider the weight difference, the diameter/fluid capacity of the shock, & the sheer rep of each manufacturer in the offroad space…& you SHOULD be able to figure out why the Raptor is a better off-roader….the TRX is just fast in a straight line on pavement, off pavement? It outruns its suspensions capability well before the Raptor does
Raptor 35 has significantly higher RTI score than 37. 37 is less than a KDSS 4Runner while 35 Raptor is close to Land Cruiser in RTI.. all for 1” of clearance? No thanks.
One is considerably more expensive. It all comes down to what how much cash ur willing to spend. One truck is bred from offroad racing. The other is not
Not really apples to apples since you don't have the V8 Raptor yet. Pretty impressive for a V6 though. I want to see a head to head when they are both V8 powered.
They don't want to put it against the new raptor because they know what's going to happen and it will make them look like fools for buying a TRX and that's why they keep putting it against V6 version of the raptor
@@028943182 pretty much. They act like it is an actual comparison but it's not because you are not representing the best Ford has to offer. Just wait until the Raptor R comes out....there will be a LOT less hype on the trx.
LMAO, not apples to apples?!?!? Why because RAM dropped a big V8 powered supercharged engine into it? Something Ford never would’ve done had RAM not done it first. Even then the V8 version they plan on releasing won’t be mass produced like the TRX is, you’ll be one of the lucky few to get your hands on one. Please…. I swear you fanboys are all the same, look for any reason to diss the competition or come up with anything to say isn’t fair. These are the top two trucks of each company, RAM won. Hell the 2nd gen Raptor is faster than the 3rd gen on 37’s. I’ve been waiting for a TRX since the concept but I’ll admit I love the looks of the Raptor but just can’t stand the v6. Was disappointed they dropped a v6 in it.
@@dolivares81 I like the styling of the Raptor better too. The Raptor is what started the off road super truck category and with a V8. It didn't have any competition. Then they gave it more power but with a V6 probably due to their long term goals with the motor in other platforms. It will always be a back and forth driven by trying to out perform the other company. I am glad the TRX came out because it forced Ford to step it up. I was pretty disappointed when they went through all the work to redesign the 3rd gen Raptor but did not add power to the ecoboost.
Basically, if you wanna drag race get the Dodge. For everything else, the Raptor works. Not that anybody would get these trucks for gas mileage but right now...10mpg VS 16mpg = quite a bit of money.
These TRX comparisons have just become stupid. How about creating an off road course where you get to work both trucks as the pre-runners that they are and see which one is quicker through the course. Getting really tired of seeing 0-60 comparisons. You guys are great but TRX vs. anything 0-60 has become old.
@Mike I don’t play video games, it’s just what I saw in another video. The Raptor seems to handle better and be a lot quicker in desert running situations with bumps and turns. Since your giving people advice I’ll give you some in return… they are just trucks man, if you like the TRX better that’s great but don’t assume things about other people and tell them what they should and should not do.
@Mike I don’t understand!? Look up Ben Hardy “TRX vs Raptor” he did race them on a small course one at a time and timed them. That is the video I saw. Not sure how I’m full of crap, look it up. Don’t get so but hurt about a couple of trucks! They are both nice! The TRX sounds great and has tons of power and the Raptor is tuned better for high speed off road.
It's funny how you guys have never gone against a vehicle that you've purchased for the channel no matter how bad it is you stack it against other vehicles that aren't in the same class to try to make your purchase not seem as bad as it is. The only thing the TRX has going for it is horsepower power it loses on everything else
I think the TRX would be king if they gave it a low range and dumped the hellcat for a 6.4 HEMI. putting super chargers and turbos on off roading machines just doesn't make sense to me.
There is just something about driving a big aggressive looking truck that requires a V8 engine mode and exaust. I went from a Gen2 to a low mileage Gen1 and the experience is so much better. It’s not as nice or as fast, but it sure makes you smile when you lean into the gas pedal. I’m hoping to buy an R when it comes out to park next to my Gen1. If Ford doesn’t make enough, I’m gonna have to order a TRX. Ball is in your court Ford! I know a lot of Raptor owners are being very patient…
Both are cool but more toys than trucks. BTW, not a fan of either brand, but I just configured a Ram Rebel online and RAM is basically approving dealer markups. This is what they say under the price: “Pricing provided may vary significantly between website and dealer as a result of supply chain constraints. Pricing is nonbinding and does not constitute an offer. Contact your dealer for updated vehicle pricing.” While I can’t stand dealers that apply markups, RAM is not only acknowledging that it’s happening, they’re condoning it. That just took them out of my selection process.
Great video. Both trucks are great, they have their pros and cons, and both do the job. I would prefer the Ford because I like the looks overall, but if someone said I had to take the TRX, I would not complain.
1.5 seconds faster on 37’s probably equates to about 3/4 second faster than Raptor on 35’s. Just pointing out most 2021 Raptors won’t have the 37” tire package. Very hard to get
Great in video promotion for KEEPS, thanks Case. Point to ponder: WHY - Toyota is one of the world's largest automakers with money to spend on R&D. The American truck market would be a cash cow, can't they put together a truck to compete?
Tbt I don’t think ford tried with current GEN. They just did their thing. Putting most focus into their new products. Now the rumored v8 they have coming might do it. Personally I like the price, mpg, screen and looks of the raptor better. I like the TRX for the power and sound
Thats funny cuz it took Ram how many years to respond to the Raptor? 😂😂 Raptors on its third gen and its only disadvantage is power which Ford is rumored to have fixed in the upcoming raptor R with 750 hp. Absolutely dillusional comment.
If you are looking for a truck 95 percent of the time, the TRX is going to be the more fun vehicle. But with the raptors superior suspension tech and much lighter weight it’s the better driver in high speed off road situations
Love the TRX. If I could get one with no camera at I'd buy it. I just don't trust the technology to always be as helpful as my own eyes and 45 years of driving, including off road.
On the tires, you guys should mention too, the Ford has 124R 8-ply tires vs the TRX having 127R 10-ply tires. This equates to a higher load rating on the TRX. Plus a theoretical less chance at puncture off-roading at high speeds in the TRX. 😎
@@michaellarson2506 Obviously I missed that in the vid. Would be cool is they pointed this out more often. Just a quick look search online for replacement tires shows the Duratrac with 127R rating. I’m guessing that the lower ply and load rating allow the higher speed rating.
That ain’t a very fair comparison, it’s a 3.5l V6 against a 6.2l V8, but I gotta give credit to the Raptor tho, just wait until the Raptors R comes out.
I don't understand why you're not using Launch Control for your 0-60 runs when the TRX has it? Just because the Raptor doesn't have it, doesn't mean it's not one of the features of the TRX. I mean, by that logic you might as well unplug two spark plugs since the Raptor doesn't have a V8...
3:37 I dont care if some people think they're outdated. Physical gauges are better than a full screen. Its like going from a well made wrist watch to an apple watch. The screen looks cheap in a way, appeals too hard to tech feature people, & the graphics will look dated in a few years.
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I absolutely love this new raptor it looks so good very aggressive and from everyone I’ve spoke to and most of the videos I’ve watched they actually prefer this truck over the ram for carving through terrain and general off routing but it is no comparison in a straight line race the ram has it with 700 hp
Absolutely, I watched a video on the Raptor and TRX and in a straight line the TRX got it but when they carried them out & actually raced them on a dessert course the TRX couldn't keep up the Raptor slaughter it bad.
I completely agree, the Ford should have a v8 option at least and guaranteed it would sell more than that Honda Civic sounding engine. Come on Ford, at the people the option to choose. I’m a ram guy but there’s no substitute for the power and sound of a healthy v-8
@Mike you clearly don’t know how to read. I said “basically the same, one is just faster.” Not sure how me saying one is faster instead of saying one is 1.5 seconds faster to 60 means I know nothing about cars or trucks. Also when I say they are basically the same, they have similar size, capabilities(towing/hauling), suspension, technology etc. engine is only major difference.
@Mike it’s amazing you think you know so much about my knowledge of cars. It’s all good. TRX is a great truck with impressive engineering for speed. But 700+ horsepower in a truck like that is for pure fun, not function. Yes I am also talking about the Raptor R when it comes and will also probably have over 700HP. I stand by my statement that these 2 truck are very similar, one is just faster.
@Mike I have never built my own but have helped build at different stages friends. I have been to the track racing many times. Swapped many engines. Don’t own either truck, and will never been in the market because I tow an haul too much. FYI. I live near charlotte. It’s car build and race town USA.
@Mike I am not a mechanic, but I do well fixing cars. Although I can’t reprogram new cars. Although I dabbled in it while changing my trucks infotainment from my ford touch to sync 4. That was a much harder and time consuming project than I expected.
The trx is a 33 gallon tank. Still less than the raptors 36, but not as significant. I think it should be at least a 40 gallon on either. But, I'm the kind of guy that has a ram 5500 with the dual tank setup to be 74 gallons from factory, and added on a 118 gallon auxiliary tank. (192 gallons, total fuel capacity)
My perspective is that the review had some good comparisons, but these trucks are not in their element. There was no Baja style test done where you’re going over woops, to show which vehicle’s suspension fades less after extended use, or if those 37s soak up the holes better to help keep a higher constant speed while off-roading. There was no mention of suspension travel or ground clearance. You can have 700 hp all day long, but if you can’t mash the throttle cuz your suspension and tires can’t handle the woops and the jumps, then what’s the point? I get it though. It’s hard to find something like that in Colorado maybe. Colorado is rock crawling, mountain climbing, approach/departure angle central. But that’s not where shocks that have bypasses and additional reservoirs for cooling, really shine, is it? For that you need speed… and woops. Hope to see you out in Southern California’s Ocotillo Wells, Glamis sand dunes and/or Johnson Valley for a REAL test of what these trucks were designed for. 😉
Yeah electrics are crazy fast but overall as a vehicle, nowhere near the level of internal combustions which have been mastered over decades. Maybe in a couple years electric vehicles will improve
@@anthonyramdin1037 I hear ya but I had to jump on that generic hold my beer comparison. Hey, I soooo miss the sound of my 93 Fox body with its catless flow master H pipe equipped exhaust. That little beast would roar.
i have the 2022 duramax trailboss eco deisel and i have to say i freaking love this pickup...obviously the trailboss is like entry level compared to these two but damn is it a nice pickup. the turbo inline 6 deisel has some serious torque and the powerband is very low which makes it feel like a sports car when im not hauling shit.
Really? Trx is heavier, more numb, bilstein shocks, 5 mpg, and the typical reliability you get with any Chrysler product. The raptor has far superior suspension and handling when running at high speeds off road. There’s a reason Ram is too afraid to take their truck to Baja
The TRX's fuel economy is just too impractical Car & Driver's longterm 40k mile truck is getting 10mpg and they have similar ET's as a Focus RS all so I can race entry level sports cars in a truck I bought for offroading when it's the worse offroad truck of the two. That's $22,000 more in fuel over 150k miles save that money & use it to buy a sports car to go with the Raptor & you'll have the best of both worlds.
Anytime You Accelerate The TRX It Runs Like A Mosquito,But That Truck Sets Up For The Fast & Furious Movie Along With The Tesla Model S Plaid Which Is An Electric Car In By Dominic Torreto.
Hi love your channel I also own a TRX here in Canada. I have a question and was wondering if you could look into this if it’s true or false!! I’ve heard RAM is stopping all new orders for the TRX I believe by end of February and will not be producing any more with the 6.2 s/c engine??
I like your honesty Andre. Owning a Ford F150 doesn't influence your opinion. Maybe with the money saved on the Raptor it will pay for the same shocks that the TRX has.
@@victorgirouard1543 the 6.2 in the TRX is a very well proven engine. The ZF8 and Dana 60 are also very well proven. It's likely a TRX will last just as long as a Raptor.
13 miles per gallon on the TRX maybe if grandma drives it. As far as the raptor I run regular gas never premium in my 2021. I own the 19 rebel quad cab. When it came time to purchase a 21 model I looked at the TRX. Didn’t like the camera system for the boogie hood you can’t see over. Absolutely love the raptor. Good job Andre
I had an 89 IROC Z w the 5.7 liter bored .30 over, flowmasters and racing chip. I never timed it but I loved that car, the sound and torque was amazing.
The TRX sounds worlds better than the raptor. The TRX is faster on pavement than a Raptor. With that said, my pick is the Raptor. For my money the Raptor is a better truck, even if it sounds like a modded 370Z and has 250 less HP than the TRX.
Regarding the T-Rex eating a raptor--not all raptors were or are dinosaurs. The term also includes many birds including hawks, eagles, owls, vultures, condors, falcons, and more.
I don't like the fact that the Ford only has DIGITAL Gauges. The Ram has both Digital and analog gauges. I personalty like the Analog gauges. Both trucks are way OVERPRICED!
Easily?? Hard no. You need to go check out Ben Hardy‘s channel he owns both of these trucks and he’ll be the first to admit that the Raptor is the better truck. Hell the raptor is even better off-road than the TRX is.
@@Matts000 way to many issues with the raptor since the 3.5 and 10 speed. Remember it's an Ford 👎my raptor was always in the shop until I sold it. But hey believe what some kid says lol. Look at street speed 717 he has consistently said the trx is better in every way.
@@fireant1272 What do mean there's issues with the transmission because it's a Ford? You do know that transmission is not a Ford transmission it was co-developed by GM & Ford to put into a bunch of vehicles from Camaros to Silverados Raptors and Mustangs. The transmission is used about 20 different vehicles and is well proven. Also EcoBoost engines are used in a dozen of or so vehicles as well including alot of fleet vehicles which get 200,000-300,000 miles before they're sold such as police cars, Sprinter vans like Amazon delivery, and shuttles like Airport shuttles, my work has one in a company shuttle with 250,000 miles and no problems. These engines are well proven and the Raptor's H.O. EcoBoost should be even better with better oiling and featuring direct and port injection both adding to reliability.
@@fireant1272 How is the TRX better when these are offroad trucks and the TRX is worse offroad? It has worse suspension it's active shocks vs semi active, less suspension travel, less approach departure and brake over angle, less range offroad, it bottoms out on the nose over fast bumps, it's handles worse, and it doesn't have the Raptor's Torsen differential.
Andre, you love the science, let me make a point about sound level comparison, dB per HP. Now I will let you choose more is good or less, but to me if you can make less dB per HP is better, we are in 21st century 😀
You except them to scour the country to try and compare every single dealership and the various markups each has? That information would generally be useless. Better to know the MSRP so that you can compare it to the dealers in your area and see for yourself how much more you'll have to pay.
@@chaseshelton1 The broken relationship between dealers and the manufacturers means that MSRP for vehicles is a complete myth for the end user. People either have to buy from a dealer that doesn't charge ADM and wait 6-18 months (looking at some of the Bronco order holders here) or pay ADM somewhere and get it sooner. Last year when I went to look at TRX and Raptors the dealers were charging 90+k for used 2020 Raptors. There were used TRX trucks that were well over 110k and there were no new Raptors or TRX trucks available anywhere without waiting. Every dealer I contacted was charging ADM and the Ford teams wanted 20-30k ADM and the RAM teams were asking 5-10k at the time. This effectively made them within 10k of each other if not the same price. If the purpose is to educate buyers then that should be mentioned. The TFL team has already covered this in other videos and podcasts so a reference to any of that content for context would help anyone actively considering these trucks.
@@alanorlikoski7744 I was lucky and got my Raptor in about 10 weeks after ordering, and at sticker. Sub $70k, they are an amazing value. If there was a $10k ADM I'm probably cross shopping a TRX at that point, way easier to get your hands on.
@ The Fastlane Truck did you ever get the 2015-2020 Yukon XL or Suburban up Goldmine Hill or are those trucks not capable I noticed the Expedition tried.
Lol I doubt that on both counts. Neither GM or Toyota have given any indication they'll build a performance pickup. The fact that the "Trail Boss" is a regular pickup with a leveling kit and black wheels and the "TRD Pro" is a regular pickup with a leveling kit and black wheels is a pretty good indication. 🤣
The exhaust system on the Ford is so juvenile. It would surely impress my 9 year old grandson. Probably designed for 10 year olds. Next? Who has the coolest decals😂😂😂
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Hey TFL, have yall got an in order in for the new GMC sierra? If so what trim, and when will you get it? I have one ordered in the SLT and would love to see a real world walk around and road test (in the pacific blue with the dark walnut interior) ...
Anybody have pictures of this exact example?
I own a 2nd Gen Raptor, when you buy something and drive it day to day, your view of what is important changes. The 20-22mpg for cruising on the highway is a pretty big perk when you go on trips, or a general commute too. While having a significant off road capability when you choose to do so.
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Hate or love but I have to say these two are currently the best production trucks in the world.
Raptors quick! But that growl and sound of the trx just does it for me!
I do not like the Whine super annoying, could do without!
Yup, I agree, if I was in the market I would go for the trx just cause it’s a v8. I can’t take a v6 sound seriously in a truck 😂
@@MrDawnkeeballs I am not gonna take a v8 seriously who loses to a v8 personally. I don't care what engine it has, if it can beat the shit out of other vehicles it's just badass, even more so for using a so called "less powerful engine". Porsche for example is highly respected for what they do.
@@MrDawnkeeballs in a Full-Size truck. A V6 sound just works with a Mid-Size truck.
@@raionshishi8290 sure if you’re talking about racing, take the faster engine. Ima be driving it as a daily so no I don’t wanna hear a little v6 sound coming from the engine bay of my full size truck 😂that’s laughable. In-line 6s have my respect tho, but not the v6s
Love the sound of the supercharger whine!
I always loved the Raptor till the TRX came along. TRX will put a bigger smile on your face just like Roman shows in theses video's.
It puts a smile on my face every single time it will never get old!!
The TRX will also put a bigger dent in your wallet.
Smile until it dents rust or breaks. JS Ram puts 707 hp cause they offer nothing else. And Raptor is Aluminum no rust. Rams rust well
@@willydiesel2081 lol, man you reach on every post!
No such thing as an indestructible vehicle so that seems like a daft response.
A $65k base Raptor is well optioned for a daily driver where you have to spend $85k to on a level 2 TRX to get some of the “free” Raptor features. If you have the extra $20k for your fun Truck then TRX wins hands down. It’s great that Ford and now Ram have street legal trophy trucks available, golden age of automobiles!
Only problem is you can order a trx with 10k off msrp and when you order raptor there is usually 5-10k adm
@@ArmasReverence Ordering is a moot point IMO when dealers are saying they're 24 months out.
Choosing power and acceleration for vehicles that are designed for off road capabilities is a very poor conclusion. You should test them in the environment they were developed for and choose the best one. That’s are many off road situations that power and acceleration are your worst enemy and weight and suspension are your best friend.
So is grammar and and and and
Jackyl Smith I fully understand your point. However both are fairly similar in there off road capabilities. Strong suspension with plenty flex, similar weight tho I think trx may be heavier and all the different drive modes which are very effective. Similar gearing ratios and low range gearing I would assume. The power is what differentiates them. There are certain circumstances off road where you need to absolutely power out of a situation and that's where the trx comes into its own. I'm not saying trx is better off road than raptor but just showing that power does make a huge difference
They make videos for the typical consumer. Most people who own these vehicles drive them way more on the street than offroad. This is the perfect comparison for the majority of people who will own these trucks.
@@anthonyramdin1037 Tho the thing is off roading is not about just power, and when it coms down to it, too power and too much weight is actually bad. The Raptor beats the TRX on any race because it's lighter and it has quick and easy power delivery, it's super nimble and quick around corners and certain areas where the TRX would have to brute force itself through, not to mention the amount of gasoline you would use, the Raptor would still be going down the trail while the TRX is dead in the water. So many factors they ignored, not to mention the Raptor beats the TRX in pretty much every category, same way the TRX did with the 2 gen raptor and everyone praised the heck out of it than so why isn't the raptor getting an advantage here ?
Ben Hardy ran both on the desert same route and the Raptor was faster then the Ram. So with all the power it’s still slower.
Excellent video with so much info. I like how you broke up the comparison into specific topics. I've already voted by ordering a TRX that has an estimated ship date in early March. Can't wait!
Congrats on the TRX. You made the better choice (in every way), by choosing the TRX.
@@jreyman Better in every way..... don't talk crap !!
Couple things, I just got the 21 Raptor on 37s. It doesn’t require premium fuel. I’m sure it will run better on it. But when I was deciding between these 2, I was having a hard time thinking about paying for premium fuel knowing how bad they both drink gas. The other thing that put me over the top was all the infotainment issues I had with my 20 Ram 1500. I had a lot of touchscreen issues and Apple Car Play issues and knew that if I spent that much on a TRX and had those issues I would lose my mind.
Love my Raptor!
My Ram had a lot of issues with the infotainment and Apple car play as well not to mention my transmission issues so I agree. I love the feel and look of my Ram but not the issues.
Does the raptor eat a lot of gas ⛽️???
@James Herrera CCTX Not while being towed.
Yes the RAPTOR is better than a trx
I'd recommend using premium, I get about 2.3 mpg better on premium in my 2021. And you get better performance.
They're always trying to discount Ford with all these so-called better trucks. And yet when it comes down to sales leader Ford always stomps the composition and everything they say is better. Well done Ford. It only took Ram 20 years to catch up.
Love the TRX, take that any day of the week. Have always liked the looks of the Raptor just not a fan of the v6 and for this price point I want the best interior which goes to RAM.
I'm a huge Raptor fan but, gotta to agree , the TRX has the edge. Pretty hard to ignore the supercharged V8. It's not like Ford isn't already working on a V8 performance package but, I like the idea of the more fuel efficient turbo engines giving it some more range.
It’s not a fair comparison. You are comparing 3.5 eco-boost to supercharged V-8. BTW that eccoboost will smoke any other Ram 1500. Just not that supercharger.
@@daves913 price point is on par so how is it not a fair comparison what I find not fair is a Raptor costs the same price as the TRX and it comes with a V6 TT
@@dor1tomcswagger69 V-8 supercharger, versus an 3.5 eco boost. I’m not taking price here!
@@daves913 Ford doesn’t have anything to run against the 6.2L supercharged motor in the F series. Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight….
I look forward to the new raptor R ( it’s rumor to have Have supercharger V-8 750 hp), then you’ll have a good comparison between 2 V-8 superchargers.
Yes,you will hear about the R,but never see one in person....like the TRX....
Ford doesn’t make good v8s😂
3.5 twin turbo vs 6.2 super charged. There is a big difference, no comparison. Ford should have the 5.0 coyote supercharged in the raptor.
Just wait for the Raptor R
With or without burning oil?
rumor has it that the raptor r is getting the 5.2 supercharged V8 from the gt500. way to late if you ask me. and of course the price will be ultra premium
@@ceverett68 way too late for what?
The raptor is better off-road
Hope everyone enjoys the Hemi while we have it. It doesn't sound like it will be around much longer. Also, would love to see a limited edition Raptor with a HO coyote or VooDoo engine. Or better yet a supercharged 7.3!!
The Coyote is coming teal soon & it's gonna have alot more power than the other.
Roman said it best, “move this ford thing aside”.
I would have no problem having the Ford thing. It’s a nice truck.
The difference in suspension feel is probably most due to the 37” tires on the Raptor. It would be better to compare the 35” Raptor that has more suspension travel.
Nope. Would have a lot more to do w/ the fact the Raptor has proper 3.1” dual rezzy Active “live valve” FOX shocks & weighs around 700 lbs less than the TRX, while the TRX (700 lbs heavier over the nose btw) has 2.5” bilstein shocks (consider the weight difference, the diameter/fluid capacity of the shock, & the sheer rep of each manufacturer in the offroad space…& you SHOULD be able to figure out why the Raptor is a better off-roader….the TRX is just fast in a straight line on pavement, off pavement? It outruns its suspensions capability well before the Raptor does
Raptor 35 has significantly higher RTI score than 37. 37 is less than a KDSS 4Runner while 35 Raptor is close to Land Cruiser in RTI.. all for 1” of clearance? No thanks.
One is considerably more expensive. It all comes down to what how much cash ur willing to spend. One truck is bred from offroad racing. The other is not
That raptor sounds like a straight piped Chevy s10 I use to own lmao
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Yeah I hate to be that guy, but if only it had s v8. Just a v8, doesn’t need supercharging or turbocharging. Just a simple v8.
I remember those days. When Chevy made good trucks.
Not really apples to apples since you don't have the V8 Raptor yet. Pretty impressive for a V6 though. I want to see a head to head when they are both V8 powered.
They don't want to put it against the new raptor because they know what's going to happen and it will make them look like fools for buying a TRX and that's why they keep putting it against V6 version of the raptor
@@028943182 pretty much. They act like it is an actual comparison but it's not because you are not representing the best Ford has to offer. Just wait until the Raptor R comes out....there will be a LOT less hype on the trx.
The 37’s use a little more energy to roll than the 35’s also
LMAO, not apples to apples?!?!? Why because RAM dropped a big V8 powered supercharged engine into it? Something Ford never would’ve done had RAM not done it first. Even then the V8 version they plan on releasing won’t be mass produced like the TRX is, you’ll be one of the lucky few to get your hands on one. Please…. I swear you fanboys are all the same, look for any reason to diss the competition or come up with anything to say isn’t fair. These are the top two trucks of each company, RAM won. Hell the 2nd gen Raptor is faster than the 3rd gen on 37’s. I’ve been waiting for a TRX since the concept but I’ll admit I love the looks of the Raptor but just can’t stand the v6. Was disappointed they dropped a v6 in it.
@@dolivares81 I like the styling of the Raptor better too. The Raptor is what started the off road super truck category and with a V8. It didn't have any competition. Then they gave it more power but with a V6 probably due to their long term goals with the motor in other platforms. It will always be a back and forth driven by trying to out perform the other company. I am glad the TRX came out because it forced Ford to step it up. I was pretty disappointed when they went through all the work to redesign the 3rd gen Raptor but did not add power to the ecoboost.
Dealers in Canada are asking 150k for the TRX before taxes and fees 😜
I think we would all love to have either one.
I would be happy with either, but if I had the money I'd go for the TRX.
Basically, if you wanna drag race get the Dodge. For everything else, the Raptor works. Not that anybody would get these trucks for gas mileage but right now...10mpg VS 16mpg = quite a bit of money.
Trx
These TRX comparisons have just become stupid. How about creating an off road course where you get to work both trucks as the pre-runners that they are and see which one is quicker through the course. Getting really tired of seeing 0-60 comparisons. You guys are great but TRX vs. anything 0-60 has become old.
I know right? Because it takes a mopar to catch a mopar
If u would watch the vidoes they made a off-road video stop complaing u baby
@@masonneerhof 😂😂😂
Both awesome but I ordered the raptor. I think they have a greater attention to detail overall, plus it's cheaper. I'm jealous of the trx speed tho.
I like the acceleration of the trx. But I love the looks of the raptor.
I had a 66 Corvair in high school. I think Ford benchmarked a Corvair to get the sound just right. 🤠
The TRX eats Raptors for breakfast 😎
Ben Hardy did a small desert race with his TRX and Raptor and the Raptor was quite a bit faster around the course in what they are designed for…..
@Mike I don’t play video games, it’s just what I saw in another video. The Raptor seems to handle better and be a lot quicker in desert running situations with bumps and turns. Since your giving people advice I’ll give you some in return… they are just trucks man, if you like the TRX better that’s great but don’t assume things about other people and tell them what they should and should not do.
@Mike I don’t understand!? Look up Ben Hardy “TRX vs Raptor” he did race them on a small course one at a time and timed them. That is the video I saw. Not sure how I’m full of crap, look it up. Don’t get so but hurt about a couple of trucks! They are both nice! The TRX sounds great and has tons of power and the Raptor is tuned better for high speed off road.
It's funny how you guys have never gone against a vehicle that you've purchased for the channel no matter how bad it is you stack it against other vehicles that aren't in the same class to try to make your purchase not seem as bad as it is. The only thing the TRX has going for it is horsepower power it loses on everything else
I think the TRX would be king if they gave it a low range and dumped the hellcat for a 6.4 HEMI. putting super chargers and turbos on off roading machines just doesn't make sense to me.
@@ElectronicsForFun : What do you mean if they gave the TRX low range?
@@oneslackrfrom what I've heard it doesn't have a low range transfer case, it's all wheel drive which means no rock crawling.
@@ElectronicsForFun : The TRX has 4 Auto, Axle Lock, 4 Hi, 4 Lo. Heck, they even show it in this video which you obviously didn't watch.
@@ElectronicsForFun : You can see Andre discussing it right here 18:26
The Raptor sounds like a Japanese car with sport exhaust
Funny that they have "sound" settings for the exhaust.
There is just something about driving a big aggressive looking truck that requires a V8 engine mode and exaust. I went from a Gen2 to a low mileage Gen1 and the experience is so much better. It’s not as nice or as fast, but it sure makes you smile when you lean into the gas pedal. I’m hoping to buy an R when it comes out to park next to my Gen1. If Ford doesn’t make enough, I’m gonna have to order a TRX. Ball is in your court Ford! I know a lot of Raptor owners are being very patient…
Both are cool but more toys than trucks.
BTW, not a fan of either brand, but I just configured a Ram Rebel online and RAM is basically approving dealer markups. This is what they say under the price: “Pricing provided may vary significantly between website and dealer as a result of supply chain constraints. Pricing is nonbinding and does not constitute an offer. Contact your dealer for updated vehicle pricing.” While I can’t stand dealers that apply markups, RAM is not only acknowledging that it’s happening, they’re condoning it. That just took them out of my selection process.
I agree the TRX, but for price difference, I would have to go with the Raptor. That is a signifacant price difference.
TRX is the correct pick. 👍1️⃣🇨🇦
Great video. Both trucks are great, they have their pros and cons, and both do the job. I would prefer the Ford because I like the looks overall, but if someone said I had to take the TRX, I would not complain.
1.5 seconds faster on 37’s probably equates to about 3/4 second faster than Raptor on 35’s. Just pointing out most 2021 Raptors won’t have the 37” tire package. Very hard to get
Having spent time in both I prefer the TRX but they are both great trucks! 👍 👍
Great in video promotion for KEEPS, thanks Case. Point to ponder: WHY - Toyota is one of the world's largest automakers with money to spend on R&D. The American truck market would be a cash cow, can't they put together a truck to compete?
I’ll take the v8 over v6 ANY day. TRX hands down
I love how Ram doesn't just compete...they set the bar so high that it takes other companies years to catch up.
Tbt I don’t think ford tried with current GEN. They just did their thing. Putting most focus into their new products. Now the rumored v8 they have coming might do it. Personally I like the price, mpg, screen and looks of the raptor better. I like the TRX for the power and sound
Thats funny cuz it took Ram how many years to respond to the Raptor? 😂😂 Raptors on its third gen and its only disadvantage is power which Ford is rumored to have fixed in the upcoming raptor R with 750 hp. Absolutely dillusional comment.
@@logansayre8521 they need to fix their off road suspension
That's how you do a nice and helpful review
If you are looking for a truck 95 percent of the time, the TRX is going to be the more fun vehicle. But with the raptors superior suspension tech and much lighter weight it’s the better driver in high speed off road situations
Love the TRX. If I could get one with no camera at I'd buy it. I just don't trust the technology to always be as helpful as my own eyes and 45 years of driving, including off road.
Why not use the TRX's launch mode? You should do one run of each with and without it.
On the tires, you guys should mention too, the Ford has 124R 8-ply tires vs the TRX having 127R 10-ply tires. This equates to a higher load rating on the TRX. Plus a theoretical less chance at puncture off-roading at high speeds in the TRX. 😎
The TRX has an 8 ply 121/118T rated tire
Watch time 7:14, it will show the 121/ rating
@@michaellarson2506 Obviously I missed that in the vid. Would be cool is they pointed this out more often. Just a quick look search online for replacement tires shows the Duratrac with 127R rating. I’m guessing that the lower ply and load rating allow the higher speed rating.
That ain’t a very fair comparison, it’s a 3.5l V6 against a 6.2l V8, but I gotta give credit to the Raptor tho, just wait until the Raptors R comes out.
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I don't understand why you're not using Launch Control for your 0-60 runs when the TRX has it? Just because the Raptor doesn't have it, doesn't mean it's not one of the features of the TRX. I mean, by that logic you might as well unplug two spark plugs since the Raptor doesn't have a V8...
Is it just me or is there a UFO AT 2:37? Or is that a bird LOL
3:37 I dont care if some people think they're outdated. Physical gauges are better than a full screen. Its like going from a well made wrist watch to an apple watch. The screen looks cheap in a way, appeals too hard to tech feature people, & the graphics will look dated in a few years.
These are full size RC monster trucks..
Look very fun to drive
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I absolutely love this new raptor it looks so good very aggressive and from everyone I’ve spoke to and most of the videos I’ve watched they actually prefer this truck over the ram for carving through terrain and general off routing but it is no comparison in a straight line race the ram has it with 700 hp
Absolutely, I watched a video on the Raptor and TRX and in a straight line the TRX got it but when they carried them out & actually raced them on a dessert course the TRX couldn't keep up the Raptor slaughter it bad.
That raptor sounded like a kid trying to play a trumpet for the first time...
I completely agree, the Ford should have a v8 option at least and guaranteed it would sell more than that Honda Civic sounding engine. Come on Ford, at the people the option to choose. I’m a ram guy but there’s no substitute for the power and sound of a healthy v-8
No it won't. The EcoBoost vastly outsells the V8s. Even the 750 hp Shelby.
No a natural V8 can't compete with this TTV6. It's fast as hell. I've had a v8 the last 10 years and don't miss ot at all!
Basically the same, one is just faster. It would be fun if you could have them on the same tires.
@Mike you clearly don’t know how to read. I said “basically the same, one is just faster.” Not sure how me saying one is faster instead of saying one is 1.5 seconds faster to 60 means I know nothing about cars or trucks. Also when I say they are basically the same, they have similar size, capabilities(towing/hauling), suspension, technology etc. engine is only major difference.
@Mike it’s amazing you think you know so much about my knowledge of cars. It’s all good. TRX is a great truck with impressive engineering for speed. But 700+ horsepower in a truck like that is for pure fun, not function. Yes I am also talking about the Raptor R when it comes and will also probably have over 700HP. I stand by my statement that these 2 truck are very similar, one is just faster.
@Mike I have never built my own but have helped build at different stages friends. I have been to the track racing many times. Swapped many engines. Don’t own either truck, and will never been in the market because I tow an haul too much. FYI. I live near charlotte. It’s car build and race town USA.
@Mike I am not a mechanic, but I do well fixing cars. Although I can’t reprogram new cars. Although I dabbled in it while changing my trucks infotainment from my ford touch to sync 4. That was a much harder and time consuming project than I expected.
Fuel tank size is very important to me. My F-150 had 36 gallon tank. My nephew's Ram Has a 32 gallon tank. That 4 extra gallons comes in handy.
The trx is a 33 gallon tank.
Still less than the raptors 36, but not as significant.
I think it should be at least a 40 gallon on either.
But, I'm the kind of guy that has a ram 5500 with the dual tank setup to be 74 gallons from factory, and added on a 118 gallon auxiliary tank. (192 gallons, total fuel capacity)
Raptor sounds nice with that exhaust. Acceleration through the snow was definitely more enjoyable to watch with the TRX
My perspective is that the review had some good comparisons, but these trucks are not in their element. There was no Baja style test done where you’re going over woops, to show which vehicle’s suspension fades less after extended use, or if those 37s soak up the holes better to help keep a higher constant speed while off-roading. There was no mention of suspension travel or ground clearance. You can have 700 hp all day long, but if you can’t mash the throttle cuz your suspension and tires can’t handle the woops and the jumps, then what’s the point? I get it though. It’s hard to find something like that in Colorado maybe. Colorado is rock crawling, mountain climbing, approach/departure angle central. But that’s not where shocks that have bypasses and additional reservoirs for cooling, really shine, is it? For that you need speed… and woops. Hope to see you out in Southern California’s Ocotillo Wells, Glamis sand dunes and/or Johnson Valley for a REAL test of what these trucks were designed for. 😉
TRX: 4.76 to 60, bro!
Rivian: Hold my beer!
Yeah electrics are crazy fast but overall as a vehicle, nowhere near the level of internal combustions which have been mastered over decades. Maybe in a couple years electric vehicles will improve
I’m close to sea level and get 3.9’s all day. That with the sound is an unmatched combination.
@@anthonyramdin1037 I hear ya but I had to jump on that generic hold my beer comparison. Hey, I soooo miss the sound of my 93 Fox body with its catless flow master H pipe equipped exhaust. That little beast would roar.
@Mike ha! So true!
i have the 2022 duramax trailboss eco deisel and i have to say i freaking love this pickup...obviously the trailboss is like entry level compared to these two but damn is it a nice pickup. the turbo inline 6 deisel has some serious torque and the powerband is very low which makes it feel like a sports car when im not hauling shit.
Unless your a hard core Ford fan boy. Its clearly TRX for the win.
Really? Trx is heavier, more numb, bilstein shocks, 5 mpg, and the typical reliability you get with any Chrysler product. The raptor has far superior suspension and handling when running at high speeds off road. There’s a reason Ram is too afraid to take their truck to Baja
The TRX's fuel economy is just too impractical Car & Driver's longterm 40k mile truck is getting 10mpg and they have similar ET's as a Focus RS all so I can race entry level sports cars in a truck I bought for offroading when it's the worse offroad truck of the two. That's $22,000 more in fuel over 150k miles save that money & use it to buy a sports car to go with the Raptor & you'll have the best of both worlds.
113 decibels isn't that close to 114. It's 33% less loud.
Gawdamn!! 4.6 0 to 60 in that monstrosity...incredible. I wish I had stupid money so I could buy one
I'd like to see a video with the Ford F-150 Raptor R vs the Ram TRX that would be nice video
They are both great trucks but the suspension is king in the raptor.
Great job
Anytime You Accelerate The TRX It Runs Like A Mosquito,But That Truck Sets Up For The Fast & Furious Movie Along With The Tesla Model S Plaid Which Is An Electric Car In By Dominic Torreto.
Hi love your channel I also own a TRX here in Canada. I have a question and was wondering if you could look into this if it’s true or false!! I’ve heard RAM is stopping all new orders for the TRX I believe by end of February and will not be producing any more with the 6.2 s/c engine??
I like your honesty Andre. Owning a Ford F150 doesn't influence your opinion. Maybe with the money saved on the Raptor it will pay for the same shocks that the TRX has.
will wait till the raptor R comes out to go against the TRX for any comparison
I’ve been watching for many years now. I’ve always driven a Tacoma and just bought a used 2020 Ranger FX4 after watching all of your reviews.
these are the ultimate compensation vehicles
That's your justification for not being able to afford one. LMFAO 😂
@@Nick_Gir true lol
@@Nick_Gir I can afford one, but I am already 6 inches soft so I am good.
Yep. Park it next to the corvette. Testosterone substitutes.
@@Lex-Rex mm aren't inches, son
Cool video, Peace of mind of what truck I'm purchase ,thanks .
You gotta include the Excursion in a video with these, and call it "You'd need a Visa to Discover this American Excess"
While i love the fire breathing v8….i will take a FORD truck over ram anyday.
It will definitely outlast the ram by alot!!
@@victorgirouard1543 the 6.2 in the TRX is a very well proven engine. The ZF8 and Dana 60 are also very well proven. It's likely a TRX will last just as long as a Raptor.
13 miles per gallon on the TRX maybe if grandma drives it. As far as the raptor I run regular gas never premium in my 2021. I own the 19 rebel quad cab. When it came time to purchase a 21 model I looked at the TRX. Didn’t like the camera system for the boogie hood you can’t see over. Absolutely love the raptor. Good job Andre
12-13 secs used to be my 1989 chevy camaro z28 with the 5.0 l engine ... times r a changin
I had an 89 IROC Z w the 5.7 liter bored .30 over, flowmasters and racing chip. I never timed it but I loved that car, the sound and torque was amazing.
@@josephwatts2904 the iroc z 350ci could beat the supra turbo easy all the way to 100 mph n that with a slow 4 speed auto...great car for its day !
Not for long!!! Raptor v8 is here 0 to 60 with 37" 3.9 seconds.
The TRX sounds worlds better than the raptor. The TRX is faster on pavement than a Raptor. With that said, my pick is the Raptor. For my money the Raptor is a better truck, even if it sounds like a modded 370Z and has 250 less HP than the TRX.
Regarding the T-Rex eating a raptor--not all raptors were or are dinosaurs. The term also includes many birds including hawks, eagles, owls, vultures, condors, falcons, and more.
Andre sounds like the terminator ! Get into the raptor!!! Come with me if you wanna off-road 😅
I’ve never even seen a TRX on the road. Raptors are everywhere. 😂
Cause they are always broke
I don't like the fact that the Ford only has DIGITAL Gauges. The Ram has both Digital and analog gauges. I personalty like the Analog gauges. Both trucks are way OVERPRICED!
Enjoy that V8 while last. Soon it will be reduced to a 3.1L Supercharged V6 because of CAFE regs lol.
Trx is easily the king of trucks!
Easily?? Hard no. You need to go check out Ben Hardy‘s channel he owns both of these trucks and he’ll be the first to admit that the Raptor is the better truck. Hell the raptor is even better off-road than the TRX is.
@@Matts000 way to many issues with the raptor since the 3.5 and 10 speed. Remember it's an Ford 👎my raptor was always in the shop until I sold it. But hey believe what some kid says lol. Look at street speed 717 he has consistently said the trx is better in every way.
@@fireant1272 lol ok
@@fireant1272 What do mean there's issues with the transmission because it's a Ford? You do know that transmission is not a Ford transmission it was co-developed by GM & Ford to put into a bunch of vehicles from Camaros to Silverados Raptors and Mustangs. The transmission is used about 20 different vehicles and is well proven.
Also EcoBoost engines are used in a dozen of or so vehicles as well including alot of fleet vehicles which get 200,000-300,000 miles before they're sold such as police cars, Sprinter vans like Amazon delivery, and shuttles like Airport shuttles, my work has one in a company shuttle with 250,000 miles and no problems. These engines are well proven and the Raptor's H.O. EcoBoost should be even better with better oiling and featuring direct and port injection both adding to reliability.
@@fireant1272 How is the TRX better when these are offroad trucks and the TRX is worse offroad? It has worse suspension it's active shocks vs semi active, less suspension travel, less approach departure and brake over angle, less range offroad, it bottoms out on the nose over fast bumps, it's handles worse, and it doesn't have the Raptor's Torsen differential.
always imitated never duplicated. Raptor on top!
Corwin Ford in Reno Nv has a Raptor with a $30K market adjustment! NOT for Me!
Lmbo. Nathan with the curly hair and facial expressions 😂😂😂
Thanks!
Whats the intro song name 😍
Andre, you love the science, let me make a point about sound level comparison, dB per HP. Now I will let you choose more is good or less, but to me if you can make less dB per HP is better, we are in 21st century 😀
Price comparisons should include additional dealer markups and time to wait to get one. MSRP means nothing these days
You except them to scour the country to try and compare every single dealership and the various markups each has? That information would generally be useless.
Better to know the MSRP so that you can compare it to the dealers in your area and see for yourself how much more you'll have to pay.
that's a tricky one though, not all dealers are marking up and prices vary greatly nationwide.
@@chaseshelton1 The broken relationship between dealers and the manufacturers means that MSRP for vehicles is a complete myth for the end user. People either have to buy from a dealer that doesn't charge ADM and wait 6-18 months (looking at some of the Bronco order holders here) or pay ADM somewhere and get it sooner.
Last year when I went to look at TRX and Raptors the dealers were charging 90+k for used 2020 Raptors. There were used TRX trucks that were well over 110k and there were no new Raptors or TRX trucks available anywhere without waiting. Every dealer I contacted was charging ADM and the Ford teams wanted 20-30k ADM and the RAM teams were asking 5-10k at the time. This effectively made them within 10k of each other if not the same price.
If the purpose is to educate buyers then that should be mentioned. The TFL team has already covered this in other videos and podcasts so a reference to any of that content for context would help anyone actively considering these trucks.
@@alanorlikoski7744 I was lucky and got my Raptor in about 10 weeks after ordering, and at sticker. Sub $70k, they are an amazing value. If there was a $10k ADM I'm probably cross shopping a TRX at that point, way easier to get your hands on.
freakin spit coffee all over the macbook when i saw Nathans wig lmfao
Keep Them for 10 years,and that TRX is going to kill that Raptor in value. Enthusiasts Will allways value that TRX higher.
Kinda embarrassing for Ram. A little V6 on 37 inch tires less than 2 seconds slower.
Hope you do another video with the Raptor type R , 776 hp. Yep should be interesting
@ The Fastlane Truck did you ever get the 2015-2020 Yukon XL or Suburban up Goldmine Hill or are those trucks not capable I noticed the Expedition tried.
TFL Truck will need to redo this test when the Chevy 1500 ZR2 comes out maybe Toyota Will offer something to complete with them
Lol I doubt that on both counts. Neither GM or Toyota have given any indication they'll build a performance pickup. The fact that the "Trail Boss" is a regular pickup with a leveling kit and black wheels and the "TRD Pro" is a regular pickup with a leveling kit and black wheels is a pretty good indication. 🤣
On both counts it would be comparing regular trucks with offroad parts bolted to them to two trucks purpose built from the frame up for offroading.
The exhaust system on the Ford is so juvenile. It would surely impress my 9 year old grandson. Probably designed for 10 year olds. Next? Who has the coolest decals😂😂😂