I love seeing isfjs in a setting where they can express themselves. I feel like, in the wild, they're hard to get-to-know because they're always making room for everybody else. I think we could all learn a lot if there were more opportunities in society for their insights. Broadly it seems like we "lean" on them when we should be listening to them 😊
I find that the Si-Ti combination is great for science. Someone said in a previous video that ISxJs are very process oriented. That combined with your sense of details as well as logic, categories, etc. makes you perfects for the scientific process! I vote for more ISFJs in science and STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math) 😍
My mom’s a pharmacist and ISFJ. She raised her manager basically from tech to pharmacy student to pharmacist to manager. She has helped so many people and was an insanely wonderful mother. I spent A LOT of time in the library with my Mom growing up. Then I hung out with my husband in libraries falling in love, doing lots of homework and retrieving books for us. I was once eaten by a reference section that automatically moved after you retrieved the book and I imagined the headline “Nursing student in seminary library reserved reference section dies of consumption by library shelves.” My novel is all about books and we visit a LOT of libraries in it. In Love in the Library by Jimmy Buffet is like perfect for college love and I would die without an IxFJ in my life, either that or their books and shelves would kill me. Wow, the death motif in the jokes really happened here. My Mom’s house and traditions haven’t changed in years and I trust Si so much to help me with ordering things. Sometimes I can’t handle her sensor report… actually all of the time in always saying get to the point first please!!! My mom used a little notebook in her pharmacy job that her coworkers called the Bible. I did the same on the nursing floor and got some giggles until I could pull it out and reference the protocol and their changes over time ;). My Dad is an ENTJ and when he was looking for the perfect wife mom he chose my mom. She wasn’t really offended by that, I feel like an fi might be haha.
Thank you for sharing this and providing a platform for ISFJs to express themselves. As an ENTJ with an ISFJ daughter, this helped me gain understanding and appreciate her even more. As she starts to contemplate her future career paths, I know to worry less now.
It’s so interesting what Julie said around the 32 minute mark about asking lots of questions to do the best job she can. That’s exactly what Melissa (ENTP) said when she was on this channel. She also said people at her job commented on how many questions she was asking. Don’t know if this is necessarily a typology thing, but it stood out to me. Maybe it’s the combination of functions (Ti-Fe in particular) that wants to know how everything works in advance so they can do a good job right away, rather than just get started and figure stuff out along the way. In contrast, Se might be more trial and error and Te might instinctively find the most efficient way on its own. I‘m conflicted about the Te thing, though. I could also see a Te user bombarding people with questions because they assume there is already a system in place that they can use. And then they might point out all the inefficient things about the established system on their first day 😅
Interesting observation. I always asked a lot questions growing up. The Ti hero parent would scream at me, "Figure it out yourself!" The Se hero parent would say, "You're smart; you don't need me to tell you how to do it. Just figure it out as you go along."
I’m conflicted on my type being enfp or infj….I know they have totally different functions ..however they’re each other’s shadows, so perhaps I’m integrated to a point where I relate to both..anyway, point being, I’m one of those people who asks tons of questions at a new job. I want to make sure I learn as much as possible at the beginning so that I can do a good job. I’m not sure if it’s related to type at all.
@@ac-jn1iq Differentiating Ne/Si from Ni/Se first could be really helpful. Don’t even worry about the judging functions for the moment. I find that Ne/Si does such unique things that Ni/Se just doesn’t do and it didn’t take long for me to know that I‘m on the Ne/Si axis. If you get strong associations with objects or places, so if they remind you of someone or a particular situation, that’s the Ne/Si axis doing its thing. For me, those associations don’t make any sense a lot of the time and I don’t know if I‘m just weird or if other Ne/Si people get this too, I haven’t heard someone describe it exactly as I experience it. For example, when I was working on a thesis on climate adaptation for uni, I had a picture of my grandparent‘s garden fence stuck before my inner eye and it just wouldn’t go away. Climate adaptation obviously has nothing to do with my grandparent‘s garden fence, at least it didn’t before I made the random connection. Now, whenever I see that fence, I think of my thesis. And whenever I think of my thesis, I get a picture of the garden fence before my inner eye. There are other examples of random connections, so this happens somewhat regularly. Ni/Se would never do that because it’s concerned with what’s actually present in the physical world and whether it has a deeper meaning or ties into a bigger picture. If it doesn’t, an object remains an object with a purpose and a use but nothing more. And a research or podcast topic doesn’t uncover the deeper meaning behind a randomly generated inanimate object or place (given, of course, the podcast or paper isn’t about and doesn’t even mention said object or place). I don’t know if that was helpful or confusing and weird, but even if that wasn’t helpful, I really think that going deeper into the this that are unique to each axis will make it clearer where you stand.
Relatable to my personality also as far as planning but it seems to me that ISFJ are OCD; they lack flexibility in planning and aren't very adept at change, and this also leaks over to their supervisory roles, as they emit a lot of anxiety if things aren't the way they like them to be. This has been my observation.
Hmmm interesting. Could it be maybe a bit of bias at play? For example, if you see someone who's very inflexible about doing things their way, would you subconsciously associate that with IS*J? I only mention it because I catch myself doing that often, as in looking at the behavior and then trying to fit it in a box instead of trying to understand the motivation of that behavior
About the classroom/meeting thing. If an opening doesn't come for me, I have a tendency to try to hang back when it's over and say what I want. It can sometimes give people the wrong impression, like when my health teacher thought I had HIV because I stayed after class to ask a question.
I love seeing isfjs in a setting where they can express themselves. I feel like, in the wild, they're hard to get-to-know because they're always making room for everybody else. I think we could all learn a lot if there were more opportunities in society for their insights. Broadly it seems like we "lean" on them when we should be listening to them 😊
I find that the Si-Ti combination is great for science. Someone said in a previous video that ISxJs are very process oriented. That combined with your sense of details as well as logic, categories, etc. makes you perfects for the scientific process! I vote for more ISFJs in science and STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math) 😍
My mom’s a pharmacist and ISFJ. She raised her manager basically from tech to pharmacy student to pharmacist to manager. She has helped so many people and was an insanely wonderful mother. I spent A LOT of time in the library with my Mom growing up. Then I hung out with my husband in libraries falling in love, doing lots of homework and retrieving books for us. I was once eaten by a reference section that automatically moved after you retrieved the book and I imagined the headline “Nursing student in seminary library reserved reference section dies of consumption by library shelves.” My novel is all about books and we visit a LOT of libraries in it. In Love in the Library by Jimmy Buffet is like perfect for college love and I would die without an IxFJ in my life, either that or their books and shelves would kill me. Wow, the death motif in the jokes really happened here. My Mom’s house and traditions haven’t changed in years and I trust Si so much to help me with ordering things. Sometimes I can’t handle her sensor report… actually all of the time in always saying get to the point first please!!! My mom used a little notebook in her pharmacy job that her coworkers called the Bible. I did the same on the nursing floor and got some giggles until I could pull it out and reference the protocol and their changes over time ;). My Dad is an ENTJ and when he was looking for the perfect wife mom he chose my mom. She wasn’t really offended by that, I feel like an fi might be haha.
Such a calm energy, love it!
Thank you for sharing this and providing a platform for ISFJs to express themselves. As an ENTJ with an ISFJ daughter, this helped me gain understanding and appreciate her even more. As she starts to contemplate her future career paths, I know to worry less now.
I've seen the dynamic of an office become self-conscience about it's group-snipe when a parental big minded perspective becomes present.
I have this problem at my work now. I’m not an isfj though lol
Glad Nat managed to get the white out off 😎
Hahahaha
enjoyable interview 👍🏻👍🏻
my Phone is on 24/7 silent 🥳
It’s so interesting what Julie said around the 32 minute mark about asking lots of questions to do the best job she can. That’s exactly what Melissa (ENTP) said when she was on this channel. She also said people at her job commented on how many questions she was asking.
Don’t know if this is necessarily a typology thing, but it stood out to me. Maybe it’s the combination of functions (Ti-Fe in particular) that wants to know how everything works in advance so they can do a good job right away, rather than just get started and figure stuff out along the way.
In contrast, Se might be more trial and error and Te might instinctively find the most efficient way on its own. I‘m conflicted about the Te thing, though. I could also see a Te user bombarding people with questions because they assume there is already a system in place that they can use. And then they might point out all the inefficient things about the established system on their first day 😅
Interesting observation. I always asked a lot questions growing up. The Ti hero parent would scream at me, "Figure it out yourself!" The Se hero parent would say, "You're smart; you don't need me to tell you how to do it. Just figure it out as you go along."
I’m conflicted on my type being enfp or infj….I know they have totally different functions ..however they’re each other’s shadows, so perhaps I’m integrated to a point where I relate to both..anyway, point being, I’m one of those people who asks tons of questions at a new job. I want to make sure I learn as much as possible at the beginning so that I can do a good job. I’m not sure if it’s related to type at all.
@@ac-jn1iq Differentiating Ne/Si from Ni/Se first could be really helpful. Don’t even worry about the judging functions for the moment. I find that Ne/Si does such unique things that Ni/Se just doesn’t do and it didn’t take long for me to know that I‘m on the Ne/Si axis.
If you get strong associations with objects or places, so if they remind you of someone or a particular situation, that’s the Ne/Si axis doing its thing. For me, those associations don’t make any sense a lot of the time and I don’t know if I‘m just weird or if other Ne/Si people get this too, I haven’t heard someone describe it exactly as I experience it.
For example, when I was working on a thesis on climate adaptation for uni, I had a picture of my grandparent‘s garden fence stuck before my inner eye and it just wouldn’t go away. Climate adaptation obviously has nothing to do with my grandparent‘s garden fence, at least it didn’t before I made the random connection. Now, whenever I see that fence, I think of my thesis. And whenever I think of my thesis, I get a picture of the garden fence before my inner eye. There are other examples of random connections, so this happens somewhat regularly.
Ni/Se would never do that because it’s concerned with what’s actually present in the physical world and whether it has a deeper meaning or ties into a bigger picture. If it doesn’t, an object remains an object with a purpose and a use but nothing more. And a research or podcast topic doesn’t uncover the deeper meaning behind a randomly generated inanimate object or place (given, of course, the podcast or paper isn’t about and doesn’t even mention said object or place).
I don’t know if that was helpful or confusing and weird, but even if that wasn’t helpful, I really think that going deeper into the this that are unique to each axis will make it clearer where you stand.
Relatable to my personality also as far as planning but it seems to me that ISFJ are OCD; they lack flexibility in planning and aren't very adept at change, and this also leaks over to their supervisory roles, as they emit a lot of anxiety if things aren't the way they like them to be. This has been my observation.
Hmmm interesting. Could it be maybe a bit of bias at play? For example, if you see someone who's very inflexible about doing things their way, would you subconsciously associate that with IS*J? I only mention it because I catch myself doing that often, as in looking at the behavior and then trying to fit it in a box instead of trying to understand the motivation of that behavior
About the classroom/meeting thing. If an opening doesn't come for me, I have a tendency to try to hang back when it's over and say what I want. It can sometimes give people the wrong impression, like when my health teacher thought I had HIV because I stayed after class to ask a question.
I think ISFJ's are the most common type.
6:41 Awkwaaaaaard 😬lol
Julie might be a 1, but that bit about asking questions is very e6.
So if she's 1 core, her 6 is second.