Testing the gears! Will it drive? Ongoing pre-war car renovations & improvisations at OCC HQ

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  • @oldclassiccarUK
    @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому +3

    *Hi all, if old cars are your thing, please check out the other vids now on the OCC channel: **ua-cam.com/channels/KaTg9fPUvmUQi94FcnDbrg.html** If you too are a fan of pre-war era cars, please pop a note in the comments section below and share your own interest in these intriguing machines. Should the Talbot be restored fully? Or should it be preserved in as original-a-condition as is practicable, wearing its age on its sleeve as it were? Comments welcomed as always. Thanks for watching, RJ.* 👍

    • @paulsutton5896
      @paulsutton5896 3 роки тому

      My preference is to bring the car back to showroom condition.
      But then, I'm not doing the work.

    • @davidcoleman6032
      @davidcoleman6032 3 роки тому

      Whether to fully restore or not ?Well that's a very tricky question.I had a mk2 Triumph vitesse which I got in1990,I ran it as an everyday car until 1993,by then it was ROUGH, so I took the decision to fully restore it,a fortune and 11and a half years later I had a concours example.BUT as much as I loved what I had achieved,I found the motoring I had in it was not as enjoyable as before the restoration.I worried where I parked it,stone chips,the pain of sorting it all out if someone went into it etc.Eventually sold it.I find pre-war cars interesting,even more than I thought,as more companies were then independent before the later mergers and badge engineering. If it were my Talbot I would tidy it up,but wouldn't be tempted to create an all-new car again. Great channel!👍🙂

  • @WeeShoeyDugless
    @WeeShoeyDugless 3 роки тому +6

    Love it!!
    I am on the top side of my mid 60s and the 1st start you did on this Talbot took me back to when I was a 15 year old whippersnapper driving through town with my dad.
    As we passed one particular steep drive, I noticed an Armstrong Siddley Sapphire looking as though it hadn't moved in years so I asked my dad to stop.
    I knocked on the door and when an elderly gentleman appeared, I asked him what his plans were for the car?
    "Take it away if you want it" was his reply!
    It was a one lady (Lady, as in Lord and Lady) owner and it had lain on his drive for 20 years.
    Then he told me "I have another car in the garage if you want it too!".
    So, I was suddenly the proud owner of an Armstrong Siddley AND a 1950 Hillman Minx all for free!!
    The Siddley was the easiest 'Will it start' ever, dropped the bowl off the carb, cleaned it out and filled with fresh petrol, stuck a half flat battery in it for ignition and 3 half turns of the starting handle (battery too flat to turn the engine) and hey presto, she sat ticking over like a pussy cat!!
    I am torn between keeping your Talbot original or leaving her as she is with the oily rag treatment.
    I'd go for the latter as it has sooooo much more of a tale to tell than a show queen.
    Good luck in whichever way you decide to go and keep up the videos, love them.
    Adam.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Adam, what great memories to have, I'm glad that the Talbot's resurrection reminded you of the Minx and Sapphire you found. As for the overall look, I think I can make it look better, whilst keeping most of the paint that's still clinging to the bodywork :-)

    • @WeeShoeyDugless
      @WeeShoeyDugless 3 роки тому

      @@oldclassiccarUK Go for it, its amazing what a sympathetic restoration can do.
      I look forward to your progress on it 👍

  • @PaulinesPastimes
    @PaulinesPastimes 3 роки тому +5

    Excellent. Nice history of the car too. I love all the old tools, by the way. The top radiator hose on my Austin A60 is made out of a section of hose from a Toyota Camry! Needs must, you know. 😊👍

  • @alanorion1
    @alanorion1 2 роки тому +3

    Very interesting, I like cars up to the war from the 20’s.However I enjoy interesting post war cars as well Bringing the Talbot back to life has been very enjoyable. It is a joy to be able to access everything on the engine, and not having all vital components covered in plastic shielding Alan

  • @neilwilliams6716
    @neilwilliams6716 3 роки тому +3

    For me, I think preserve it as it is, they're only original once. I absolutely love pre war cars, looking forward to more progress on the fleet.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      I know that if I were to go down the resto route, it'd probably be in pieces for years and cost a fortune

  • @connieschmitt714
    @connieschmitt714 3 роки тому +4

    I enjoy watching the videos of the older cars and hearing about their history

  • @jagvette1
    @jagvette1 3 роки тому +2

    OK at the end of the video now and heard your comment about prewar cars lack of interest, BULLSHIT they are very interesting, my preference is 60's cars but I love the prewar ones but not antique ones, please keep them coming. Don't listen to those that don't like them they can go watch a honda civic video :)

  • @michaeld7409
    @michaeld7409 3 роки тому +1

    I love the elegant lines of this pre-war Talbot, i have a soft spot for six-light designs. How nice she sounds and a delight to see the gauges work. If it would be mine, i‘d try to keep it as is, but in working order. Won‘t go for a restoration.
    Must be lovely to see it next to the Ford Anglia ❤️❤️

  • @kellybrickey4300
    @kellybrickey4300 Рік тому +1

    The engine Sounds lovely. Well done. Also, I just have to say, I love how legible the instruments are. By any chance are they lit with black light? I've had some postwar US studebakers that were. Wonderful at night.

  • @grantparsons6205
    @grantparsons6205 Рік тому +1

    Marvellous old car. A genuinely exciting find. And the old side valve Rootes motors were virtually indestructible & terribly forgiving.

  • @assettrader1587
    @assettrader1587 3 роки тому +2

    Hi RJ, great vid , very interesting car, must be very rare now, I note the registration number, is of course originally a Bournemouth number, have you had any opportunity to check the car's history ? A quality car in it's day, did I notice a supplying dealer badge on the dash board ? I couldn't read the detail.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      Hi, yes I've got the first old logbook so have done some research on the first owner, a lady nr Brighton. One of the earlier vids shows the dashboard better I think. The original dealer was Motor Mac's of Bournemouth. There's an ongoing thread about the car over on my site's forum: www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21877 rgds RJ.

    • @assettrader1587
      @assettrader1587 3 роки тому

      @@oldclassiccarUK Thanks for that, I have now caught up with the previous vids. You mention Motor Mac's premises still exist, I lived in Bournemouth for 40 years, and worked in the motor trade for over 25 0f them. I'm well over 70 now, but don't remember Motor Macs, I'd love to know where they operated from. Very enjoyable, keep up the good work.

  • @BigAmp
    @BigAmp 3 роки тому +2

    Sounds sweet. Nice car, well done bringing it back to life, good on you.

  • @ruskiryan2398
    @ruskiryan2398 3 роки тому +1

    You waffle on too much, nice car though but lose the Rhubarb!

  • @justinwatson4792
    @justinwatson4792 3 роки тому +3

    lovely to see these proper cars come back to life

  • @trapt5962
    @trapt5962 Рік тому +1

    I have ford 10 original shell and lock

  • @leonarddriller2608
    @leonarddriller2608 3 роки тому +3

    Great to see the old girl running, Can't wait to see her on the road again.

  • @morrisophile
    @morrisophile 3 роки тому +2

    Lovely! There's so much real-time detail in your videos but it never fails to keep my interest.

  • @radds0191
    @radds0191 3 роки тому +1

    Great old car .... so good to see it coming back to life. Really enjoyed the video , keep them coming! Love the pre war cars.

  • @paulbennell3313
    @paulbennell3313 3 роки тому +1

    Now I'm a bit torn about this. Restore or preserve? I'd lean towards preservation but obviously large patches of rust like the one on the bonnet near the windscreen on the driver's side bother me.
    Then again, this would be a simply spectacular car restored to new condition. Paint and interior would be eye-wateringly expensive no doubt but given that it's already a striking looking car, I'd find it tempting to make the most of it if finances allow.
    That engine sounds amazing! Imagine what it's going to be like with the exhaust repaired.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому +3

      I saw a similar car on sale for £££££ a few months back, all shiny and with a restored interior, and it did very little for me to be honest. To many eyes mine simply looks scruffy, and opinions at OCC HQ are split - I think leave it broadly as it is and tidy up the ugliest parts, whereas SWMBO thinks it deserves the full monty given that once upon a time it was a smart motor-car.

    • @davidjones332
      @davidjones332 3 роки тому

      @@oldclassiccarUK If your budget would run to it I think it deserves a restoration. It's only going to go on gradually deteriorating , and having survived so long she deserves to be brought back to her former glory. Personally I don't like over-restored show cars, but she would make a good basis for a rolling restoration. Tidy up the interior, give her a repaint in that lovely period green, and tackle the mechanical bits as you go along.

  • @JustAlanJohn
    @JustAlanJohn 3 роки тому +1

    Just found your channel very nice as for cleaning the carb the young man fine wire-wool and a little WD40 .

  • @stuartoneill3195
    @stuartoneill3195 2 роки тому +1

    I love old cars as well

  • @Roger.Coleman1949
    @Roger.Coleman1949 3 роки тому

    I totally agree with your preamble , a beautiful quality pre-war car, I am restoring a 1937 Austin 18 York , 6 cylinder 2.5 litre , a most beautifully appointed car.The first car I drove solo on the day I passed my test was my dad's Sunbeam-Talbot 90 Mk 1 from 1949, a lovely , sporty and durable car.The engine of the Talbot sounds so smooth, typical of a large capacity side-valve 6 and as you say , detail is wonderful , even the instruments and oil filler are so elegant.In some ways it seems a shame to completely restore it with what seems the original paint, if it were mine I would just detail it and conserve everything and clean as well as possible and just use it as it is , it will be far more fascinating to see .By the way, is the original late ' 37 Bounemouth registration secure ?- it would be a shame if not - too good for an age-related number !.

  • @jagvette1
    @jagvette1 3 роки тому +1

    It is a magnificent beast and while I do love 'original' I think I would love to bring it back to it's glory days.

  • @petergardner2334
    @petergardner2334 3 роки тому +2

    great TO SEE OUT AND RUNNING

  • @michaelbenardo5695
    @michaelbenardo5695 Рік тому

    The older cars were designed to be infinitely repairable, so if you want, you can keep them forever, but they do require maintenance and overhauls. Today's cars are designed to NOT be fixed, but instead, replaced.

  • @joedannunzio9416
    @joedannunzio9416 2 роки тому

    No need to reply. I like pre war, post war, 50's 60's and 70's cars, after that they seemed to all blend into one blob of a shape. Sad. As you may know, I am not a engin guy but more of a style guy. Good channel.

  • @stuartoneill3195
    @stuartoneill3195 2 роки тому +1

    Love pre war cars

  • @984francis
    @984francis 3 роки тому

    I'm afraid that all this stuff about collapsing and going all floppy, tells me this car is an old man. Poor old bugger. And how would I know?😬

  • @darrylmcleman6456
    @darrylmcleman6456 2 роки тому

    More Great Stuff! We are wondering what the shaft coming out of the back of the generator is driving!!! CHEERS

  • @garyjohnson9561
    @garyjohnson9561 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent, you’ve got a good un there!

  • @robertwillis4061
    @robertwillis4061 3 роки тому +1

    Are you able to completely remove the bonnet?

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      It would have come off yes, but with limited space I didn't want it to get damaged away from the car

  • @scotisland
    @scotisland 3 роки тому +1

    Yes, all very interesting, I like side valve engines, the six sounds good.

  • @austinswallow
    @austinswallow 3 роки тому +1

    What a majestic beast! An exciting project and good progress, think you might need to use with mole grips or footprints and be brutal with the drain plug on the fuel tank, it may just need a that little extra and turn, any burring can be filed off or if you think that this is not the original, to fit an original type!
    Was cringing at the use of the Stanley blade cleaning off the old cork from the fuel pump top, expecting to see blood on camera, glad I didn't as blood is the devil's own job to clean up!
    Looking forward to more updates!

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      Thanks for watching, I'll have another crack at the drain plug this coming week all being well.
      No blood was shed while wielding the blade, not this time anyway :-)

  • @scotttait2197
    @scotttait2197 Рік тому

    Sounds lovely, I know nothing about cars of this vintage

  • @eathan323
    @eathan323 3 роки тому +1

    Really lovely to see and hear these old cars again my dad had a couple of rovers one 12 and a 14 convertible and a sunbeam Talbot saloon and all other sorts
    Are you going to do a full restore or a cosmetic tidy up and keep as much patena as possible

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      The latter had been the plan but if you see more recent vids, I'm making a few changes to the contents of the garage

  • @asciimation
    @asciimation 3 роки тому +1

    I don't think UA-cams algorithms know what pre-war cars are as it's hard to find content. With content limited you'd think it would make it easier. I am always careful to use the term pre-war rather than vintage as it seems most people don't know what vintage means and relate that to any old car rather than the true definitions. I cringe every time I see a mention of a 'vintage' American muscle car. There aren't many amateurs doing pre-war car stuff who put content up here. I suspect that's since the people with the knowledge are older than your average UA-camr. I am nearly 50 and considered young in the pre-war car world. So much knowledge and experience is disappearing now unfortunately. Parts too when people die and their families just throw out all the 'old junk'. As for the Talbot I wouldn't fully restore it. Fix any structural rust damage, oil the rest to stop it spreading and make the mechanicals solid but leave the rest with it's patina. Unrestored cars seem to be worth more than restored ones in a lot of cases. Do you know of a well sorted one to compare with? I find with not much experience with pre-war cars it's hard to know what a 'good' one should drive and feel like! Before building my Austin 7 I had only ever driven one other before and it was dreadful!

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      I sometimes include the word "vintage" with pre-war car content, simply to help to get found by people who use the term for anything really old but not necessarily 1930 or earlier in date.

    • @asciimation
      @asciimation 3 роки тому

      @@oldclassiccarUK That's a good idea I think. Increases exposure too.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      @@asciimation This is the thing, different terms used in different countries. Another word to sprinkle around is antique with reference to cars, not so much here but say in the USA it's used often.

  • @ianpetherick4326
    @ianpetherick4326 3 роки тому +1

    Colour of it looks ex, m o d

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      Think it's always been this gunmetal metallic, first owner was a lady nr Brighton. Thanks for watching it

  • @glen7301
    @glen7301 3 роки тому

    Hello,
    I have a 1925 Amilcar , and a 1928 Amilcar CGSS. The 25 car has been sold but is still with me here in France, as the buyer in England can't get here to take it back. Strange times.
    The 1928 car I have had for 25 years and is running and does about 2 / 3 events a year. Sadly nothing this year so far.
    I also have a 1936 Citroen Traction Avant. The first model made. Found in France and living with me in Banbury.
    Can send a picture if you wish.
    Regards,
    Glen.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      Sounds like a very nice collection, Amilcars are fab little cars

  • @richardcreaser308
    @richardcreaser308 Рік тому

    I expect that I may be trying to teach my grandmother how to suck eggs but it could save one of your viewers some real heartache.
    Before removing a drain plug make sure that you can remove the filler plug first.
    I had a 1000 cc BMW motorcycle & decided to change the gearbox oil. I removed the drain plug & drained the oil. Re-fitted the drain plug & found the filler/level plug. It was designed to be removed with an Allen key. It was difficult to gain access to it so I used a long series Allen key that had a ball end on it. The ball end snapped off in the level plug! I couldn’t remove the plug by any other means unless I removed the gearbox to use vice grips on it. If I had snapped the end of the Allen key off in the level plug before draining the oil, I could at least have continued to use the bike.
    The “book” told me the oil capacity, now I just needed to turn the bike upside down to put the correct amount of new oil in it through the drain plug hole. No simple matter when you are a weedy guy like me & the bike weighs somewhere between 400 to 500 pounds. I had to remove all the fluids, battery etc & a couple of hefty friends turned it upside down for me. The moral of my story - remove the filler plug before removing the drain plug. Your experience with draining the fuel tank demonstrates exactly what I mean, even tho’ the filler can obviously be removed.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  Рік тому

      Great story and yes something I'll bear in mind with future tinkerings!

  • @itsonlyme9938
    @itsonlyme9938 3 роки тому

    In 1960 a Austin 7 second value was £5

  • @3cjallen
    @3cjallen 2 роки тому

    Love your videos keep up the good work so jealous 😔

  • @shaneraven2621
    @shaneraven2621 3 роки тому +1

    Great to see and hear her running, so what's the next step oily rag or restoration? Thanks for sharing 👍👍

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      In the near future I need to jack up at the wheels and see how good/bad wheel bearings etc are I think

  • @NickRatnieks
    @NickRatnieks 3 роки тому

    Back in 1963, two cars were dumped beside my primary school- one was a Humber from the early 1930s or so, I imagine it was a close relative to this car. Well, the cars were quickly pulled to pieces by the kids and it was not long before the council picked them up with some kind of crane and tossed them into a wagon- and away they went- I could watch this operation from my classroom. At this time, there were abandoned cars everywhere!

  • @richardsellers-smith9496
    @richardsellers-smith9496 3 роки тому +1

    Loved watching your progress on the Talbot, sounds really great. I note your concern on Hydraulic Brakes on older little used cars. It is well founded as corrosion within the brake system charged with conventional brake fluid is common as it is hydroscopic and will absorb water from the atmosphere. The result of which is that in storage rusting within the cylinders will take place. As you are planning to move back onto the Morris which of course has these brakes, you may well find this has happened. Many owners of Morris 8's have chosen to change to Dot5 Silicone Brake Fluid. It does require cleaning out the system and replacing the brake rubbers. The advantage is that it is not hydroscopic and storage and little use ceases to be a problem. It will not cause corrosion. I am changing my Morris 8 to silicone as part of the restoration. I may add that the cylinders on mine with just 10yrs storage were rusted solid and I have had to refurbish the lot.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      Yes I fully expect the Morris' brakes to be in a bad way. Do you have to replace all the pipes too? (they'll probably need replacing anyway). Thanks for the feedback on the vid too!

    • @davidjones332
      @davidjones332 3 роки тому

      I've a kit car which was filled with Silicone when it was built 30 years ago. It stood on blocks for about sixteen years before being recommissioned several years back, and the brakes are still perfect with no attention whatever. Dot5 is brilliant!

    • @michaelbenardo5695
      @michaelbenardo5695 Рік тому

      Silicone brake fluid doesn't absorb water, but it DOES absorb air. Not a problem in later model cars with the rubber bladder in the master cylinder cap, but can be a problem in older cars with a vented master cylinder cap.

  • @itstime6495
    @itstime6495 3 роки тому +1

    There is a lovely red 3 litre tourer occasionally in TV dramas.

  • @davecharlton6697
    @davecharlton6697 3 роки тому

    beautiful old motor . The engine sounds brilliant . Well done you for getting it going like that . Would love a drive in that old girl . Dont think many will have survived in this condition ,

  • @johnmcmahon4364
    @johnmcmahon4364 Рік тому

    Great video with good content, very informative for its age fantastic

  • @alantraish3368
    @alantraish3368 3 роки тому

    Glad the banger racers never got their mits on it. Well done for saving this beautiful classic

  • @bertiewooster3326
    @bertiewooster3326 3 роки тому

    Duck oil old chum Duck oil !!

  • @bs7157
    @bs7157 3 роки тому

    very interesting. i love these old cars. such caricature. and the smells inside them are devine. thanks for these lovely vids.

  • @rubbishsignup
    @rubbishsignup 3 роки тому

    Would be interesting to learn more of the history of this beautiful old survivor.

  • @davemiller6893
    @davemiller6893 3 роки тому

    ...and not a curcuit board or bit of plastic to be seen. What a wonderful old girl.

  • @timbrookes3699
    @timbrookes3699 3 роки тому

    Great! Very interesting and explained in a nice relaxed way. Apologies, but I’m afraid that having managed to get an old car running,stopping etc, I would have to bring the inside and outside up to scratch as well. The pleasure for me would be having the car look as it used to when young. Thanks for the video.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      I know what you mean, my wife thinks the same!!!! Maybe she's right

  • @rubbishsignup
    @rubbishsignup 3 роки тому

    Great work.

  • @hendrixblues2540
    @hendrixblues2540 3 роки тому +1

    What a great old car. Love it

  • @geoffcrabbe4323
    @geoffcrabbe4323 3 роки тому +1

    Super Job..

  • @waja0209
    @waja0209 Рік тому

    How many this model was made?

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  Рік тому

      Probably not many, it was replaced by the updated Sunbeam-Talbot 3 Litre after a year or so

  • @Lfig012
    @Lfig012 3 роки тому +1

    Great vid thanks.........

  • @glen7301
    @glen7301 3 роки тому

    Well done re the video and getting the car running. I enjoyed the film. Encourages me to get to the garage.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      Great news, what do you need to get working on in your garage?

  • @mrh8854
    @mrh8854 3 роки тому

    Just found this channel....had to subscribe....absolutely brilliant.....

  • @steveparkes1
    @steveparkes1 3 роки тому

    What a beautiful old girl! Thank you for posting,

  • @youngmuttley
    @youngmuttley 3 роки тому

    Love the videos, can’t wait for the update on the Morris 8.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому +1

      I hope to spend some time on the M8 this weekend coming up, fingers crossed ...

  • @GEOFF0906
    @GEOFF0906 3 роки тому

    Lovely car! and started life in Bournemouth, at least according to the reg. Do you know who the first owner was?

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      It was a lady who lived over nr Brighton

    • @paulwootton5378
      @paulwootton5378 2 роки тому

      @@oldclassiccarUK strange that these old Sunbeams (Talbots) seem to have survived "down south" my 1947 car started life (and ended) in Portsmouth area. parked up in 1962 and rescued in 2017. I have it in running order now, but not yet back on the road...I have another interest in my car world/life at the moment so "she" is sat undercover...but in much sunnier climes!

  • @LZDEN
    @LZDEN 3 роки тому

    magnificent.

  • @leonarddriller2608
    @leonarddriller2608 3 роки тому

    I forgot, please fully restore her she deserves a restoration.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому

      I know where you're coming from, my missus would agree. I saw a restored example, slightly later than mine, for sale a while ago - all shiny, new interior etc, and it did absolutely nothing for me at all. Whereas being a bit shabby but original warms my cockles, to coin a phrase.

    • @leonarddriller2608
      @leonarddriller2608 3 роки тому

      @@oldclassiccarUK --Whether you fully restore her or leave her a bit shabby, I think it's a great old automobile. I would use her as a daily driver. Think of how jealous of you people will be to have an automobile like this.

  • @martinnorth2680
    @martinnorth2680 3 роки тому

    Wonderful!

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Martin, yes it's a handsome old thing (albeit a little shabby right now)

  • @davidcoleman6032
    @davidcoleman6032 3 роки тому

    So true what you were saying-amazing how many classics have survived!Aswell as the one's that are molested/bodged up by different owners.

    • @oldclassiccarUK
      @oldclassiccarUK  3 роки тому +1

      Agreed there are still finds out there to be had, thanks for watching