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Best video ever for this sponsor, what a drama saga story. Good the gentleman can look back to improving so many patients lives with his engineering talent.
The classic car industry is full of greed and crooks I restored a 246 Dino wide arch ( flares) one of only eleven RHD cars. I sold it to a famous DJ who auctioned it ( He’s actually a car dealer) I know it went through Derek Hoods hands and DK Engineering…. Small point I know, but at some stage it miraculously gained its original blue warranty card…… very strange considering it was never with the car when I owned it ha ha It’s pretty obvious it’s a fake… Most of the people who buy these cars are totally unaware of all the trinkets in the way of books and tools that should be with these vehicles!
James ... just brilliant. Suggestions: 1. Have a shorter interview just for car people not interested in his full life story which I loved as he's from Yorkshire stock... good and sound people the one's I've met / worked with... 2. You've hit an a massive subject IMHO... Box set Series 1 the Classic Car province / integrity sourcing business... Box set Series 2 the Classic Car parts / refurbishment business...
I worked for Mike for many years, an absolute Gentleman and true genius of the engineering world. Sad day when Finsbury orthopaedics came to a surprising end. I was lucky enough to see some of the most exotic cars on earth that he used to drive in every morning. I remember the day he arrived in the Bugatti that he just purchased off Jenson Button. Fully deserved, great memories. Good people.
I am ashamed to say that I worked within the Car / Classic Car Game for some years 😔 . I made it my Personal Business to make sure that I never betrayed the trust of those relying on me for honest repairs or for an honest purchase . I therefore, never made any money ! I was constantly working - doing MOTs, resprays, repairs, MOT’s, scouring scrap yards to save the Customer money ! I really don’t know why I bothered ! I had three Children - soon to become six - so I had to to work harder and harder to try and bring in a few quid to pay for for food, rent, clothes, bills but it didn’t work - my Wife left me ! And why wouldn’t She ? My Second Wife did exactly the same ! My Experience of the Car Game is that they would just as soon Lie to you and rip you off - as look at you! I tried to be be different - I tried to be honest - What a Fool I was ! I have had opportunities to pull the wool over customers eyes - but to to what effect ? To show that I was Scum - like the the rest of them - to show that a couple of hundred quid meant more to me than Customers happiness ? Wow - what a Big Man that would make me 😡 ? I could have been an arsehole about every purchase and sale I have ever made “but to what end ?” It could have made me the “Master of Misery !” “ Good luck “ if that is what you are after - but - not me ! What kind of low - life “Tosser” relies on the misery of others to make themselves feel good ! Seem’s like there are more of them out there than we might imagine ? I wish that I could intervene “Personally” on behalf of your Friend / Subject matter but that would be a very quick way to make an unfortunate matter go very bad - very quickly ! Suffice to say that - I have since changed Occupations from - Mechanical Engineer to Chartered Surveyor and have at last been able to become a “Guiding” presence in a World full of “Strife” rather than what is often considered to be - a “Duplicitous” presence in a World pre - medicated by those whose self - interests take priority. Regards, William 🙂 I trust that the World is treating you more kindly 😀.
What a nice guy. Talking in millions which he had earned and not been left. Scary money and someone lose thought it ok to take it from him I thought I would've turned off but I found him fascinating. Someone who you're bound to enjoy an evening in a quiet pub supping real ale. 😮❤❤
@@williamrafferty5732Hi,I’m not ashamed of working in the classics industry but I absolutely agree with everything you say. I’ve had my own workshop, worked for some of the biggest names in classics, repaired classics for traders. The industry is riddled with corruption . Fortunately I’m now virtually retired, would I do it again? Not a chance
@@stevem3akm Apologies if my original post was a little over dramatic ? I am just thankful that I have been able to move on and find a fulfilling Career where I am paid for what I know and not necessarily for what I do. Thanks for responding and all the best, Will.
Now this is an epitome of a gentleman. Well spoken, poised despite all the ordeal he's been through and still with a spark in his eye about his career. Wishing you all the best dear sir.
I can’t believe how calm he was. If I’d been ripped off by £40m, I would be fuming. In a different world I could imagine a fictional Hollywood movie where Del Boy rips off the wrong people and ends up floating down a river face down.
@@stephenbland7461 I suppose the fuming phase will have been there, but with the duration of the entire process will have been long gone by now. When something like that happens, you have to find a way to cope with it in order to not let it ruin you mentally and hope for the best outcome. Seems like he's found new energy in his new company; that he's a very resilient man is what I take away from this video.
What a gentleman. Great video and a privilege to watch. What a remarkable fellow. We are here to learn about cars, but I was impressed by his desire to save the company and his old team from ruin. That takes character.
Also! Jayemm - you made the right call on edits. I thought this was great. This was almost a public service announcement! Needed to be said. But the key message for me was - find an adviser who supports your interests when you are doing these kind of transactions. You need someone in your corner before you darken the doorstep of Derek Hood. The second message - eyes open on unsecured creditors. My hat off to Mike for sharing. We can all learn a lot. Thank you.
I wouldn't have missed a moment of that. As an engineer, I was fascinated by Mike's professional journey and can empathize with a lot of it. What a humble, down to earth and responsible human being. I'm so glad he was able to tell his story through your channel and I hope he has had at least some personal benefit from doing so. I certainly feel better knowing that there are still good people in the world.
JayEmm THIS, is an epic video. Please don't apologize for the length or anything else. While unique, this video brings great entertainment and huge value in many ways. As well as life lessons from him and yourself. Seriously, don't underestimate your influence. A++ viewing 👍👍
What a nice and brilliant guy Mr Tuke is. I wish hime every success with his ceramic hip replacement. There must be thousands of people out there who owe there improved mobility directly to him and his company's innovations. On their behalf I'd like to say a big THANK YOU! All the best, Chas.
Probably one of the most interesting, in-depth, honest accounts of an individuals life I've seen on UA-cam, a working class lad who through hard work made his mark, then met a conman, kept his integrity in tact and his first thought when his old business was in trouble was to save the jobs of others Top bloke.
As a doctor with an interest in hip & knee pain, an amateur engineer, and a car enthusiast, I found this really fascinating. I've been stung by doing work for companies which have wound up in administration: you get nothing and there's no point in wasting your time at creditors meetings. What I would advise is this: if anyone says: "you can trust me, I'm a professional" they are almost certainly lying and you should get the Hell out of Dodge.
I have no words.....a man that has done so much good and who's very life has helped thousands to lead a pain free life , thank god there are people like him, thank you Mike you are a credit to the human race.
As someone who is due a new hip Thankyou Mr Tuke And James this is probably the best film that you've made I hope many people watch and fully appreciate your skill in letting him tell the story in his own style I think you might have made a good friend there Thankyou.
Thank you for allowing Mr Tuke to talk about his engineering background and how he entered the industry. There’s not enough engineering apprenticeships these days, and something the U.K sorely misses. A really great watch, thanks for sharing James.
I agree, the government should really do more to support quality apprenticeships. The bigger the company the worse I have noticed, they run their schemes because they want to look good on paper, poor training. Working with skilled people is the best way to learn, the problem is it costs a lot of money to have an apprentice, especially for the first few years. Showing them how to do things a hundred times and checking all their work, it takes longer to do everything.
This is one of those stories of the slippery characters that can be found in all manner of businesses. In my own experience the sharks are often thickest when you are selling a business. Beware if you are! Very kind of Mike to be so frank as few can be but this is much more common than anyone might think. Contrary to some other comments, great story. Thanks Jay
Sadly calling these conmen 'sharks' would be a major insult to sharks. At least sharks only eat when they're hungry. Not when they're already full and want to accumulate capitals in any possible way or form.
I had a very unpleasant experience with a classic car conman in the past, ended up in court and won my case. He put his hand on the bible and said 'I promise to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God' and then proceeded to lie through his back teeth to wriggle off the hook. Absolute scum. He's conned many others as well.
This charming, intelligent, and HONEST man, whose work has helped many thousands of people, made the mistake that many honest people do- He thought this man, whom he thought was as a friend, had the same ethical framework as he did. All the best to him, he's a wonderful human.
What an amazing man. My Dad always said he was the 12th person in the world to have a replacement hip operation which lasted until he died in 2021 so thank you so much for all of the hard work in that field .He deserved all his success but certainly does not deserve all the hassle.
Wonderful thank you James. Didn’t go quite where I expected!! 17 years ago I had the cobalt chromium hip resurfacing Mike invented (aged 30) and I had no idea where it came from. It changed my life, and is still going strong. What a total legend!!
This was a long video and at times I was thinking why don’t you get to the point. But sitting here now having watched the entire video I’m glad he told the entire fascinating story of his life and how things went wrong with his collection. If you had edited out any of it we would have missed a great story. Well done. Mike you should be proud of your life’s work. It’s something that has literally helped improve the lives of millions of people and will continue to do so after you’re gone. It may not have in the end financially rewarded you as it should have the way things turned out. But there are a lot of wealthy people whose existence hasn’t made the world a better place the way yours has. Well done to you sir.
Thankyou. I did have the same thought process - I knew it wasn't "Direct and to the point", but had I cut out those pieces it would have lost the heart of the story, the human element
Well Jay, I think you have made the most interesting Video I have ever seen ! I spent half of my life working on Historic/Classic cars mainly making aluminium bodywork. I know there is a fair deal of not so great goings on hidden in this market! But there are also a lot of good people in the Historic car scene ! Unfortunately Mike was taken in by an expert fraudster ! What a loverly hero of a man Mike is, his contribution to humanity is fantastic. Thank you both.
Thanks James for this fascinating story, glad you didn’t edit it too much as it stands alone as an epic tale. Mike is clearly a decent bloke - full credit to him for sharing not only his appalling treatment by JD Classics but also his fascinating background in manufacturing orthopaedic devices and the frustrating legal challenges he’s had to face.
At first, given my background, I was very happy to hear of the story relating engineering with medicine and cars. Then I was saddened as the story of JD Cars unfolded. But this is my experience of car dealerships. To give one example, one sports and classic dealership and proclaimed Ferrari specialist based in "St Albans" (closer to Luton) had done similar tricks with me. Claiming they had carried out work on the car that was later shown to be untrue and claiming there to be issues so they could make an offer of £40k less than the market price. These were important lessons to share with us. Thanks for the work, Jay, to bring the story to us.
@@Spenny909 Their are a few places I have noticed claim a town in their address they are miles away from that just causes confusion. I suspect a poncey resident who had some position of power at the council or was friends with an MP once lobbied for, to make their property a fraction more valuable. Markyate, it’s about 20 minutes from St Albans, your not kidding anyone.
It happens in too many businesses. Just last week my stepfather walked into his club's Pro Shop (he'd been a member for decades, bought untold amounts of golf equipment from that shop) to a) buy a new bag for himself and b) he convinced me to be their customer as well, to repair my golf club there. As a thanks for him bringing in my business and decades of his own to that shop, the owner ripped him off by selling a bag to him far above what it's worth and then I even saw him sneaking to the side to rip off a "____ Brand bags now 30% off" sign which was on the wall! Yes, you guessed it: what he sold my stepfather was exactly that brand of bag and no, he did not give that 30% discount.
I had imported a car myself, and it had a valid warranty. It had a major fault in its hybrid system which is not only covered by that warranty but is also very firmly covered by the manufacturer's own hybrid system warranty. I told them my car is under warranty and gave my warranty card (to the warranty company based in another European nation) and they said they refuse to contact the company! I finally persuaded them to do so, especially as the company had said all they need to do is call and say which shop they are, what the fault is to get the approval and then send the bill when they're done. But then when the car's repair was finally done after a month it turns out the had not even bothered to make that one phone call and they tried to bill *_me_* that extremely expensive repair, even though it was under the manufacturer's own hybrid system warranty if nothing else!! Then they claimed I had never said anything about any warranty! I had to send them several very tough e-mails and they still tried to bill me, but eventually they just stopped trying to collect. Luckily I was prepared: I had recorded my phone calls with them proving I did mention the warranty and with them agreeing to call the warranty company. Imagine: those people never got the warranty money just because they for some reason refused to make one phone call and send one bill! And they never managed to bill me. What?
Not all heros wear capes. That phrase has never been so true. James, how do we get this man a knighthood? His passion for making hip joints better, despite what he has been through...many would have just given up.
James. Thank you so very much for this video. It's been a personal one for me for 2 reasons. My late father (which my grandfather founded) owned a prosthetic company on the production and fittings of prosthesis until he sold the business to a large German company in 1997. He also loved his cars as do I. I'm an established mechanic of 25 years with my own company which I'm proud to have achieved and therefore say. Mike is an inspiration and I feel an exceptional man. That was a pleasure to watch and listen to. Please find others out there to make more videos like this. Not that car reviews are bad may I quickly add!!!! All the best.
This was an amazing 'interview' displaying two sides of humanity ! I am not surprised at the 100,000 views on the first day of release. James has the knack of letting his subjects chat away without interruption. Mr Tuke came across as a humble genius who really must have played down his suffering. A good man.
My heart goes out to Mr. Tuke, honest decent human being. I went through something much smaller but the thief in my case was the government. I was forced out by local Bureaucracy, and between the Feds and State they took 46% of everything I worked for. The amazing criminal crap that comes out of the closet when you have worked hard to try and have a little piece of the "American Dream" boggles the mind. God Bless you Mr. Tuke.
I bought a Mk II from JD Classics many moons ago. It was fine once I restored it. I live in Maldon and a JD Classics building that was a workshop is now a builders suppliers, This video is the best thing I have ever seen on YT and totally engrossing.. Mike, you are a very brave man and thank you for baring your soul like that and for teaching me so much fascinating information about orthopaedics engineering and thank you James for broadcasting this incredible story. .
How refreshingly interesting, humble story amid many of those fantastic, white-teeth influencers telling you how to live your life and be happy in front of the unpaid cars, houses or boats. This is the real life, this is the reality that can hit you doesn’t matter how passionate and successful(or not) you are. Great job James. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks to both of you for providing this background. Mr Tuke has shared his life story which is quite amazing. I’m sorry that he was conned, but given the way he has detailed it he hasn’t allowed it to change him. Win, lose or draw in court, he’s won in life. When he’s worn out the hips in long distance walking, maybe he can come back and tell us how the new ceramic hip does!😁
Truly shocking story, but what an amazing, true gentleman Mike is, and a hero with regards to his work on hip and knee replacement that has helped to so many people. His use of the word "fun" so many times during the film speaks volumes for his character
As an aside to my last comment, this is what a man that has given his careers life blood for the good of everyone and asked for nothing looks like. Honestly and integrity are valuable qualities very very few people have nowadays. It simply blows my mind that this man's work has improved the quality of tens and tens of thousands of people's lives .
Loved listening to Mike and his horror story. Have myself been too trusting in the past and paid the price but nowhere to the extent that Mike has so have some empathy. Thank you for taking so much time to bring us this amazing man and his story. I am at the start of hip issues so who knows maybe I will end up with a ceramic one! Thanks again James. Best wishes. Terry.
@@JayEmmOnCarsoh it's definitely interesting - and helps build the picture of what a great guy Mike is and helps build the empathy for his situation. No-one should come away from this thinking this is an 'oh dear some lucky millionaire lost a few of his millions - I'm sure he didn't notice and deserved it anyway' situation. It's so far, far from that! Mike has worked so hard, from nothing, doing great things that absolutely transform people's quality of life - and then shown continued support and commitment to that and his employees, when it looked like that was going to be shut down not long after he'd sold it! What a guy.
@@JayEmmOnCars great video! I thought that bit was the best bit. Someone knowledgeable and talking passionately is always good. Plus it was the happy part of the video compared to what happened next…
Being an osteopath, I geeked out on the orthopaedics… But I felt myself cringing when Mike started reeling off the list, and cost of cars that he was enticed to buy…I can only wish him good fortune for him and his family.
There was a classic car dealer in Maldon known as Robin Hood.... This is a gripping video, excellent interview. Its quite unbelievable seeing the same JD Classics trucks in paddocks at historic race meetings with the same sign writing on them, bizarre decision to reuse the name.
Around the same time as Mr Tuke was going through this, perhaps a few weeks earlier we were going to buy 2 x 250 GT SWB from JD. In the middle of the deal they suddenly dropped the price a lot . And guess what, an American snapped the cars up! But then suddenly the American would resell the cars to us for a much higher price. We just said: Run Forest Run! A month later the house of cards fell down.
Thankyou Mr.Tuke for being so open from your years of bad misfortune. I think that was very brave on your part to tell the whole truth but also to open other people’s eyes to these conmen. I cannot believe that the British judicial system is so complicated and slow. It is also sad that the Police don’t have the resources to deal with fraudsters. It would interest me to know what this criminal is doing now, without sitting behind bars. Well done Jayemm for sticking with the story, that is true, professional journalism. Let’s hope the European fiasco treats the fantastic ceramic hip replacement with respect and it gets it’s stamp of approval.
Many years ago the business my mother ran was a victim of a con merchant, it cost her a fortune and took years to get a result, although it hardly covered the financial cost, let alone the years of stress. In this case the Police were involved, but it still took them many years of investigation to build a case that the CPS would go to court with, they have to feel they have a good chance of a successful prosecution before proceeding, no doubt many Constabularies look at the resources it takes for a case that may never happen and decide its better to put them elsewhere.
What a fascinating chap. I got ripped off by a fraudster. I got nowhere as a creditor to his business but he went to prison and police proceeds of crime found hidden bank accounts and after 10 years I got it all back. It was thousands rather than millions, but he shouldn't give up hope.
These type of videos are the best thing you do....and IMHO the best of there type on UA-cam. Great "entertainment" if that's the correct word! Thanks for taking the time to film, edit and post 👌 Cheers Alistair 👍
You've done a Good thing, giving Mike a platform to tell his story James. I'm sure it's helped Him just to get it off his chest & given the warning to the rest of us, that he wished passed on. Great Work.
Mike’s is a fascinating story, both the obvious one of how he was tricked, but also how he’s created his own business from scratch, pretty much twice in effect. Not only that, but his business has benefited thousands of people. We could do with a few more Mikes in this world in my opinion. I hope he does recoup at least some of his money that he’s been swindled out of. It’s good of him to share his story and it’s a salutary lesson for all of us.
This was a great video - not just the car bits but also the story of Mr Tukes’s life. Such a great guy. Here’s to you Mike. Thanks for sharing your story
Beautifully told and produced story. Fabulous work - not often I find it easy to have empathy with wealthy folk who hit financial difficulty but this video really provokes a sense of understanding of a decent chap trying to do the right thing for people other than himself.
Thanks very much - this is exactly what I wanted to do by sharing the story of Mike's beginnings. Having heard it myself, and the circumstances, I realised there was so much of a human element to this tale which deserved to be shared
I did not 'skip' one second as I just had to listen carefully to every word spoken. As a person waiting for a hip replacement, I was most interested in the history and development of orthopaedic engineering and as a classic car enthusiast, the fraud story was compelling whilst at the same time, very upsetting. I'm still processing all the content, but please may I pass on my thanks to you both for having the bravery to make this superb video.
What a brilliant man. A true gentleman. He should get a lifetime achievement award. Truly remarkable. Thank you for making this public. Barry from Dublin
Thank you for making this video. Being an retired orthoapedic surgeon and evolved about the same them as Tukes. I remember attending seminars with Chanley and Freeman .. I am also a car collector and have been in similar position as Tukes. You should do the same for paintings, wine collecting and antique furniture. Exactly duplicates of what's happening in the classic car trade. Money corrupts and trust nobody
Do you mean Lovejoy wasn't fiction? I do agree though, I worked in Motorsport for many years, you have people with money and passion, but not always a great knowledge of the workings of motor racing and there are people who take them to the cleaners, although some maybe should have been a bit more hands on when they decide to buy a race team.
I feel so sorry for him. At 76 and he's still goimg through it. I hope that he has now turned the corner on this and his business enterprises and the future is bright for him. Thank you for sharing this story and making a wider audience aware of these kind of cowboys.
Welcome to the world of business and legalities. It is not so different in other countries. Having spent a lifetime in construction I can empathise with this man.
I live in the US and some years ago I was involved in the buying and selling of collectible firearms. The most important thing I learned was, 'Buy the gun, not the story'. You can substitute any collectible for 'gun' and it's just as true.
Exactly that! Too many stories with cars. I don't care who owned it, if the condition is rubbish and it drives poorly I don't buy it. Service history means nothing if it drives like a shed.
What an incredible and enthralling story, that this wonderful gentleman was swindled out of so much money by an absolute rogue shows the utter lack of justice in the world.
Even before 0:59, I knew I had to go to the kitchen and make myself a cup of tea. What a fascinating yet unfortunate tale! Mike looks like an extremely knowledgeable and humble bloke, and I can only hope he gets something positive out of this beyond the money.
The real great Classic Car Robbery in the press was Coys. Well before 2000. One _still registered as _*_stolen_* turned up in the 2023 Mercedes World auction. Same vin number.
Yes, this was a marathon piece of viewing. But it's a marathon that SHOULD be watched. Not just to learn about the malfeasance that was rampant at JD Classics, but to learn about the frankly amazing story of Finsbury Orthopaedics, an example of what we can achieve as a species when we put our minds to it. I could listen to him talking about his work developing replacement joints for weeks, and we NEED more people like him in this world. Jay, I cannot commend your piece of public service highly enough. An example of UA-cam at its finest.
I became far more glued to the science and engineering rather than the legal disquiet which ultimately is what Mike Tuke can reflect as much more important.
Nice guy and refreshingly honest video about the real difficulties of any business. I’m sick of all the smug UA-camrs boasting about the millions they’ve made. Good luck to them, but great to have some balance and recognition life has its ups and downs!!
Well there has always been something of a bad side to the UK automotive industry, but this story is on another level. But what really came through for me, beyond the car losses, is what an amazing man this is sharing his story. As an aerospace des eng, I know something of the passion and drive that's required to succeed in an industry, however it's a very rare thing to see that passion translated through to such an engaging, thoughtful and caring human being. Thanks for sharing your story, I feel a little better about the human race having heard you talk about your wider story. How fantastic that you achieved what you have, and the cars that you've owned sounded amazing. But you must have had such a positive impact on so many people's lives because of your work and products you development. What an inspirational man. Thank you Sir
What a great video. Most interesting as I am a car enthusiast and an orthopaedic surgeon who specialises in hip replacement. I nearly fell off my chair when I saw that subject of your storey was Mike Tuke. I have met him many times at orthopaedic conferences and had many a good chat with him. I never realised that he was a car enthusiast, that he was a multi-millionaire or that he had been the subject of such fraud. He is very un-assuming, just dead keen to persuade people like me to use his hip replacements!
I remember all of this going on as I was student at Imperial College at the time. Brings back a lot of memories of that time and the great people that I interacted with.
What an epic story, I rarely watch such long videos from start to finish but this story really captured me, such a remarkable and very articulate man and as sinister as what happened to him, Mike really seems to be getting on with life, thanks for sharing hope the overall message spreads far so all are aware of the lessens learned.
Wow may I wish this amazing gentlemen only the best of luck as he changed the lives of I guess in the 10’s of thousands which makes what happened worse and as others have said the horror of being conned can last a long time! it would have been so easy to cut this down to just the scandal but what we get is an incredible story - just brilliant and I think these series with cars as a backdrop to incredible life stories are amazing!
Thanks Charles. It was a bit of a risk to leave in the life story and medical part, but I personally found it fascinating and hoped that others would too!
@@JayEmmOnCars If you had left out the life story and the medical engineering part, the story would look much more like "fool and his money are soon parted, boohoo", Telling the other facets of Mike's life show us the ways in which he is otherwise very savvy in engineering and growing the company, not to mention developing products that do a tremendous public good. It is not a stretch to imagine that his penchant for classic cars to furnish his milieu, and to experience sensorily, is intimately tied to his sensitivity to the qualities that would make man-made hip joints better and better. Perhaps not required, but helps to fertilize.
Jay this good man’s story really was needing to be told to a wide audience so thank you for having him on your channel. It’s great how his life career has met your life story through your Dads life experience.
Truely horrific story and typical of the person it happens to. A genuine, lovely human being duped by the scum of the earth and failed by a corrupt judicial system. James this is, in my opinion, one of the best pieces of work that you have done. Congratulations for deciding that the story needed to be told and to your guest for allowing himself to be shown for what he is, a decent, honest, hard working man and with an amazing technology that if we can rid of this ridiculous bureaucracy will help so many people.
The judicial system isn't corrupt - as born out by this very story (Mike got the judgements he needed, just fine). It's the underfunding and under resourcing of the court system by the last government that has thoroughly backed up the system to mean it's taken him so long and then it's also the legislation behind it that has not helped Mike to be able to recover his money (the limited personal liability of directors for trading a company illegally and then putting it into administration; the legal standing (pecking order) of unsecured creditors; the process of administration and bankruptcy etc.) None of that is the fault of the judiciary.
Thanks again Jayemm for getting Mike to share his story. It's a shame it had to happen to this Gentleman. Mike admitted he didn't know anything about Classic Cars and i would question why he didn't get an expert valuer to value these cars considering the amount of money he was spending. The valuer would have saved him a fortune. Unfortunately it's been a very expensive lesson for him.
Really enjoyed that, & I feel so, so sorry for the bloke. He seems so honest & genuine, but that was ultimately his downfall. Derek probably couldn't believe his luck when Mike rocked up with £20m burning a hole in his back pocket, so he weighed him up as a gullible mark & royally stiffed him without having the decency to at least use axle grease as lubrication! Sometimes, it's better to take your medicine, walk away & move on, but I fully understand how anger at the liberties taken can prevent you from doing so. I seriously hope he gets his dough back & finds inner peace. I've had a similar experience & albeit I ultimately prevailed, looking back, it's questionable whether the toll it took on my life, physical & mental health was worth it.
And that question in itself continues to eat you up long afterwards. What you gain in satisfaction of winning, has to be balanced against the personal toll & cost it took to prevail. Most in Mike's situation only gain the satisfaction of being proved correct, but they'll never get their money back, & time spent, chasing justice. Not to mention the stress involved. This cautionary tale is bringing back bad memories for me, but I was on the opposite side as the supplier up against a dodgy Trump-like client. Business is a viper pit...
@@Ozcrazy49 Winner or loser the lawyers always get paid. If you don't or can't pay they will sue you till your arse bleeds and then charge you extra for the privilege.
A really, really worthwhile UA-cam video! Mike comes across as an honest and articulate gentleman. His contribution to medical advancement in orthopaedics is immense. I wish him all the very best for the future and look forward to seeing his ceramic on ceramic innovation become mainstream and that he gets his just reward for it. As for the fraudster his reputation is in tatters but I guess it does not bother him. His preoccupation will continue to be ducking and diving. Thanks JayEmm for your wisdom in letting the story flow from Mike without interruption.
Who would have known the butterfly effect between a shadowy car dealer and many thousands of people denied a pain free existence. Thank you James for sharing his story and the risks involved in the minefield of classic cars. Ed
Rare genuine Gentleman. I came to the conclusion a long time ago of staying out of the courts because my lawyer school mate pointed out it's the lawyers who always win, no one else , he's a wealthy chap !! CAVEAT EMPTOR has always been my slogan and I've never bought a 🍋 yet ⚠️
Hi James, there was no chance of me hitting the skip button. What a fascinating story, told by a lovely man. A man who is able to hold his head high with pride of all he has accomplished so far. Thank you both for sharing this story, it was evident that a lot of work went into it.
What a wonderful guy Mike is. Genuine, dedicated, loyal and kind and that was taken advantage of. I've not had any dealings with JD Classics (way out of my league!) but I rent a barn on a farm very nearby them that I use as a workshop/storage for some of my cars and tap into the automotive businesses in Maldon quite regularly too, so I'm very familiar with the original JD Classics - used to regularly drive round the showroom and workshops (a vast and very very impressive setup, taking over most of an industrial estate) to see what was in stock and dream of what might be; and I'd notice their transporter vehicles on the road and see their name at Goodwood etc - and then a few years ago I noticed the company shutter and wondered what on earth had happened. Had no idea this was behind it! Shocking. Glad you told this story.
It's amaizing the world we live in, some people devote their life to inprove and enrich others lives while others are only interested in their own wealth, both part of the same species living on the same planet. The automotive industry has always been the easy money route for any con artist or aspiring con artist and I don't see this stopping anytime soon.
Just watched to the end. An amazing story. The part that sticks with me is the intelligence and ingenuity of this gentleman in the field of orthopaedics. Proud to be a fellow British mechanical engineer working in the health tech sector.
What an absolutely interesting interview James. I confess I was captured from the first minute and didn’t skip ahead at all, watched from start to finish.
@@andrewgiblin3468 after many years not on the island ... I had to return .... damm it these islanders are really the most disgusting society I have ever been exposed to ...personally disgusted and upset at being born on this island ...( but that was of no choice of mine) 😆😊☺🌍... you observation is true ....
Incredible story about an incredible man. I have to say Mike has balls of steel to keep smiling and also setting up a new company through all of this. Thank you to the both of you for this enthralling video. Absolutely first class and a lesson in how to do UA-cam for the jump up and down while screaming about the cheapest car channels.
What an unbelievable saga this has been. Thank you both for sharing this with the wider world. Mike you are an absolute legend. I hope you succeed in business for the second time.
Thank you for bringing us this story. What a lovely gentleman Mike is and what a contribution he has brought to mankind. Unlike Derek who has seemingly done little more than take what is not his for his own gain. The equanimity which Mike has after his ordeal is inspiring. Great video!
If you want to sell your classic car use a well-known public classic car auction stick a reserve price on it and see what it makes, the safest way to sell a classic.
I mean this was 2009, these well-known classic car sites were still in infancy and many high asset value cars were still being traded by brokers and agents.
James, this is an epic story and it’s a credit to you for the telling of it. I’m likewise thankful for Mr Tuke and sharing his life story, his accomplishments and his vulnerability. I hope both you and Mr Tuke receive the best rewards for your work. The salient conclusion you so succinctly made is how one persons actions can have such a huge effect on many lives. In this instance, in stead of focusing on the negative outcome of Derek’s dishonesty, I’m thankful for the effect Mr Tuke’s life on every person who has received an artificial joint. What a remarkable man!
Fantastic piece of work James! Really enjoyed it, I love the way it's edited to look like a continuous story from Mike (I assume you are asking questions to keep it all on track, but it flows so beautifully).
What an amazing guy, fascinating stuff. Sending this to my med-tech friends. Which is weird considering it's car channel vid, but there you are. Engineering is engineering, I guess. Very good piece of journalism on the motoring scam too! Thanks for this amazing piece of work Jay.
Probably the best UA-cam episode I have watched in the past decade James. What an insight but for me, as a Design & Technology educator at heart (and a massive petrolhead), the ingenuity, design, hands on manufacture and entrepreneurial mindset of Mike to get to where he has with his orthopaedic work is outstanding, and I really do hope that Mike is able to bring closure to this professionally and personally. Enjoy the business and getting the ceramic hip over the line, enjoy the spannering on your lovely cars Mike (and yes, this episode will be shared James - we’ll done and thank you for making this and bringing awareness to what can be an unjust, unfair and gluttonous hobby due to some horrible people, as much as it can be a wonderfully fair and enjoyable one 👍)
I live in Maldon and watched JD Classics grow from a small classic restorers to a much larger business. I drooled at their 2 floor showroom (from the outside, being a mere pleb I wasn't allowed inside). It seemed to be doing well, and loved regularly spotting 'dream cars' out for test drives and MOT's etc. Shame it had such a sh*t downfall....
James, it takes a lot to get me to put pen to paper, so to speak. This is an outstanding piece of journalism outside your usual , insightful posts. Well done. Having said that, Mr Tuke deserves recognition for his lifetime’s hard work in a field that I know well. I am sorry that he fell for a conman but admire his grit in bringing him to (expensive) justice. I look forward to seeing more of your work.
That's one hell of a story! A great interview of a very interesting Man and the horrendous fraud committed on him. A big thank you to you James for making this video.
Such a wonderful episode and antidote for the ever more click bait, chaotic videos put out there on YT. Very relaxing and informative watch, fascinating to the end. Much appreciation and respect for Mike to share his story with us.
Thank you for sharing. Totally agree that suing fraudsters is expensive and you rarely get your money back. The legal system turns slowly and fraudsters are usually 5 steps ahead of it
Started watching the video thinking I’d skip it. Was glued all the way through. Great video. Very sad these days that it’s still so easy to scam good people and yet it’s so bloody difficult for that person to get their money back.
Loved this video. Reminds me of the E-type price hike scandal in the 1980’s. If you want a spectacular scandal you should cover the mid-West movie replicas (Christine’s & Bullit Mustangs), from the U.S. in the noughties. Involved state trooper shoot-outs, police raids, customers cars being hidden in a river. You couldn’t make it up.
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Best video ever for this sponsor, what a drama saga story. Good the gentleman can look back to improving so many patients lives with his engineering talent.
The classic car industry is full of greed and crooks
I restored a 246 Dino wide arch ( flares) one of only eleven RHD cars.
I sold it to a famous DJ who auctioned it ( He’s actually a car dealer) I know it went through Derek Hoods hands and DK Engineering…. Small point I know, but at some stage it miraculously gained its original blue warranty card…… very strange considering it was never with the car when I owned it ha ha
It’s pretty obvious it’s a fake…
Most of the people who buy these cars are totally unaware of all the trinkets in the way of books and tools that should be with these vehicles!
As a follow up could we see all the 13 cars ?
James ... just brilliant.
Suggestions:
1. Have a shorter interview just for car people not interested in his full life story which I loved as he's from Yorkshire stock... good and sound people the one's I've met / worked with...
2. You've hit an a massive subject IMHO...
Box set Series 1 the Classic Car province / integrity sourcing business...
Box set Series 2 the Classic Car parts / refurbishment business...
I worked for Mike for many years, an absolute Gentleman and true genius of the engineering world.
Sad day when Finsbury orthopaedics came to a surprising end.
I was lucky enough to see some of the most exotic cars on earth that he used to drive in every morning.
I remember the day he arrived in the Bugatti that he just purchased off Jenson Button.
Fully deserved, great memories. Good people.
I remember the Top Gear episode where Jenson said he was trying to sell it.
I am ashamed to say that I worked within the Car / Classic Car Game for some years 😔 .
I made it my Personal Business to make sure that I never betrayed the trust of those relying on me for honest repairs or for an honest purchase .
I therefore, never made any money !
I was constantly working - doing MOTs, resprays, repairs, MOT’s, scouring scrap yards to save the Customer money !
I really don’t know why I bothered ! I had three Children - soon to become six - so I had to to work harder and harder to try and bring in a few quid to pay for for food, rent, clothes, bills but it didn’t work - my Wife left me !
And why wouldn’t She ?
My Second Wife did exactly the same !
My Experience of the Car Game is that they would just as soon Lie to you and rip you off - as look at you!
I tried to be be different - I tried to be honest - What a Fool I was !
I have had opportunities to pull the wool over customers eyes - but to to what effect ? To show that I was Scum - like the the rest of them - to show that a couple of hundred quid meant more to me than Customers happiness ?
Wow - what a Big Man that would make me 😡 ?
I could have been an arsehole about every purchase and sale I have ever made “but to what end ?” It could have made me the “Master of Misery !”
“ Good luck “ if that is what you are after - but - not me !
What kind of low - life “Tosser” relies on the misery of others to make themselves feel good !
Seem’s like there are more of them out there than we might imagine ?
I wish that I could intervene “Personally” on behalf of your Friend / Subject matter but that would be a very quick way to make an unfortunate matter go very bad - very quickly !
Suffice to say that - I have since changed Occupations from - Mechanical Engineer to Chartered Surveyor and have at last been able to become a “Guiding” presence in a World full of “Strife” rather than what is often considered to be - a “Duplicitous” presence in a World pre - medicated by those whose self - interests take priority.
Regards, William 🙂
I trust that the World is treating you more kindly 😀.
What a nice guy. Talking in millions which he had earned and not been left. Scary money and someone lose thought it ok to take it from him
I thought I would've turned off but I found him fascinating. Someone who you're bound to enjoy an evening in a quiet pub supping real ale. 😮❤❤
@@williamrafferty5732Hi,I’m not ashamed of working in the classics industry but I absolutely agree with everything you say. I’ve had my own workshop, worked for some of the biggest names in classics, repaired classics for traders. The industry is riddled with corruption . Fortunately I’m now virtually retired, would I do it again? Not a chance
@@stevem3akm Apologies if my original post was a little over dramatic ?
I am just thankful that I have been able to move on and find a fulfilling Career where I am paid for what I know and not necessarily for what I do.
Thanks for responding and all the best, Will.
Now this is an epitome of a gentleman. Well spoken, poised despite all the ordeal he's been through and still with a spark in his eye about his career. Wishing you all the best dear sir.
What a lovely gentleman. Inspired, loyal and genuine. The shame of what a sociopathic conman can do to his earned legacy. Good luck sir.
I can’t believe how calm he was. If I’d been ripped off by £40m, I would be fuming. In a different world I could imagine a fictional Hollywood movie where Del Boy rips off the wrong people and ends up floating down a river face down.
@@stephenbland7461 I suppose the fuming phase will have been there, but with the duration of the entire process will have been long gone by now. When something like that happens, you have to find a way to cope with it in order to not let it ruin you mentally and hope for the best outcome. Seems like he's found new energy in his new company; that he's a very resilient man is what I take away from this video.
What a gentleman. Great video and a privilege to watch. What a remarkable fellow. We are here to learn about cars, but I was impressed by his desire to save the company and his old team from ruin. That takes character.
Also! Jayemm - you made the right call on edits. I thought this was great. This was almost a public service announcement! Needed to be said. But the key message for me was - find an adviser who supports your interests when you are doing these kind of transactions. You need someone in your corner before you darken the doorstep of Derek Hood. The second message - eyes open on unsecured creditors. My hat off to Mike for sharing. We can all learn a lot. Thank you.
@@johang7498There was quite a bit of fuming from Leyland era Jaguar (Lucas) electrical systems!
I wouldn't have missed a moment of that. As an engineer, I was fascinated by Mike's professional journey and can empathize with a lot of it. What a humble, down to earth and responsible human being. I'm so glad he was able to tell his story through your channel and I hope he has had at least some personal benefit from doing so. I certainly feel better knowing that there are still good people in the world.
JayEmm THIS, is an epic video. Please don't apologize for the length or anything else. While unique, this video brings great entertainment and huge value in many ways. As well as life lessons from him and yourself. Seriously, don't underestimate your influence. A++ viewing 👍👍
That was the best bit of "TV" i've seen in a long time. Mr Tuke is an absolute legend. How is he not nationally renowned? What a guy...
What a nice and brilliant guy Mr Tuke is. I wish hime every success with his ceramic hip replacement. There must be thousands of people out there who owe there improved mobility directly to him and his company's innovations. On their behalf I'd like to say a big THANK YOU! All the best, Chas.
Probably one of the most interesting, in-depth, honest accounts of an individuals life I've seen on UA-cam, a working class lad who through hard work made his mark, then met a conman, kept his integrity in tact and his first thought when his old business was in trouble was to save the jobs of others
Top bloke.
As a doctor with an interest in hip & knee pain, an amateur engineer, and a car enthusiast, I found this really fascinating.
I've been stung by doing work for companies which have wound up in administration: you get nothing and there's no point in wasting your time at creditors meetings.
What I would advise is this: if anyone says: "you can trust me, I'm a professional" they are almost certainly lying and you should get the Hell out of Dodge.
White socks with brown shoes and a dark suit is a massive red flag too.
Hi , Iv had Perthes Disease since I was 7 ( 1982 )
Still waiting on surgery..........
" a good car to learn how to Ski "
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 spat me coffee out
@@nicholashacking381 Spot on Nicholas... the towel white socks is definitively a 🚑🚑🚑 alert straight away...
@@culaterw41pr white socks?
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I have no words.....a man that has done so much good and who's very life has helped thousands to lead a pain free life , thank god there are people like him, thank you Mike you are a credit to the human race.
Whose...
As someone who is due a new hip Thankyou Mr Tuke
And James this is probably the best film that you've made
I hope many people watch and fully appreciate your skill in letting him tell the story in his own style
I think you might have made a good friend there
Thankyou.
Mike has been incredible in sharing his tale, painful though I am sure it was to go through it
Thank you for allowing Mr Tuke to talk about his engineering background and how he entered the industry. There’s not enough engineering apprenticeships these days, and something the U.K sorely misses. A really great watch, thanks for sharing James.
I agree, the government should really do more to support quality apprenticeships. The bigger the company the worse I have noticed, they run their schemes because they want to look good on paper, poor training. Working with skilled people is the best way to learn, the problem is it costs a lot of money to have an apprentice, especially for the first few years. Showing them how to do things a hundred times and checking all their work, it takes longer to do everything.
@@mikehunt8823 Mike... "the problem is it costs a lot of money to have an apprentice..." C-suite bonuses come 1st... Did ya not get the email...
This is one of those stories of the slippery characters that can be found in all manner of businesses. In my own experience the sharks are often thickest when you are selling a business. Beware if you are! Very kind of Mike to be so frank as few can be but this is much more common than anyone might think. Contrary to some other comments, great story. Thanks Jay
Thanks for watching
Sadly calling these conmen 'sharks' would be a major insult to sharks. At least sharks only eat when they're hungry. Not when they're already full and want to accumulate capitals in any possible way or form.
No doubt Mike is a stand out Gentleman… but his innocence made him such an easy target… for every Mike there are 100 Derricks out there.
1:32:30 Brexit,anyone?
I had a very unpleasant experience with a classic car conman in the past, ended up in court and won my case. He put his hand on the bible and said 'I promise to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God' and then proceeded to lie through his back teeth to wriggle off the hook. Absolute scum. He's conned many others as well.
This charming, intelligent, and HONEST man, whose work has helped many thousands of people, made the mistake that many honest people do- He thought this man, whom he thought was as a friend, had the same ethical framework as he did. All the best to him, he's a wonderful human.
What an amazing man. My Dad always said he was the 12th person in the world to have a replacement hip operation which lasted until he died in 2021 so thank you so much for all of the hard work in that field .He deserved all his success but certainly does not deserve all the hassle.
Sadly Mike thought everyone was an honest, genuine man like himself . Nothing but admiration for Mike.
Wonderful thank you James. Didn’t go quite where I expected!! 17 years ago I had the cobalt chromium hip resurfacing Mike invented (aged 30) and I had no idea where it came from. It changed my life, and is still going strong. What a total legend!!
This was a long video and at times I was thinking why don’t you get to the point.
But sitting here now having watched the entire video I’m glad he told the entire fascinating story of his life and how things went wrong with his collection. If you had edited out any of it we would have missed a great story.
Well done.
Mike you should be proud of your life’s work. It’s something that has literally helped improve the lives of millions of people and will continue to do so after you’re gone. It may not have in the end financially rewarded you as it should have the way things turned out. But there are a lot of wealthy people whose existence hasn’t made the world a better place the way yours has. Well done to you sir.
Thankyou. I did have the same thought process - I knew it wasn't "Direct and to the point", but had I cut out those pieces it would have lost the heart of the story, the human element
Mike's legacy is the achievement x 2 (original and now ceramic)
The money... Don't regret it as shrouds have no pockets...
Well Jay, I think you have made the most interesting Video I have ever seen ! I spent half of my life working on Historic/Classic cars mainly making aluminium bodywork. I know there is a fair deal of not so great goings on hidden in this market! But there are also a lot of good people in the Historic car scene ! Unfortunately Mike was taken in by an expert fraudster ! What a loverly hero of a man Mike is, his contribution to humanity is fantastic. Thank you both.
Thanks James for this fascinating story, glad you didn’t edit it too much as it stands alone as an epic tale. Mike is clearly a decent bloke - full credit to him for sharing not only his appalling treatment by JD Classics but also his fascinating background in manufacturing orthopaedic devices and the frustrating legal challenges he’s had to face.
At first, given my background, I was very happy to hear of the story relating engineering with medicine and cars. Then I was saddened as the story of JD Cars unfolded. But this is my experience of car dealerships. To give one example, one sports and classic dealership and proclaimed Ferrari specialist based in "St Albans" (closer to Luton) had done similar tricks with me. Claiming they had carried out work on the car that was later shown to be untrue and claiming there to be issues so they could make an offer of £40k less than the market price.
These were important lessons to share with us. Thanks for the work, Jay, to bring the story to us.
Basically, they are all just second car dealers. Arthur Dailey's with posh accents.
@@mytinplaterailway and larger numbers involved.
@@Spenny909 Their are a few places I have noticed claim a town in their address they are miles away from that just causes confusion. I suspect a poncey resident who had some position of power at the council or was friends with an MP once lobbied for, to make their property a fraction more valuable. Markyate, it’s about 20 minutes from St Albans, your not kidding anyone.
It happens in too many businesses. Just last week my stepfather walked into his club's Pro Shop (he'd been a member for decades, bought untold amounts of golf equipment from that shop) to a) buy a new bag for himself and b) he convinced me to be their customer as well, to repair my golf club there.
As a thanks for him bringing in my business and decades of his own to that shop, the owner ripped him off by selling a bag to him far above what it's worth and then I even saw him sneaking to the side to rip off a "____ Brand bags now 30% off" sign which was on the wall! Yes, you guessed it: what he sold my stepfather was exactly that brand of bag and no, he did not give that 30% discount.
I had imported a car myself, and it had a valid warranty. It had a major fault in its hybrid system which is not only covered by that warranty but is also very firmly covered by the manufacturer's own hybrid system warranty. I told them my car is under warranty and gave my warranty card (to the warranty company based in another European nation) and they said they refuse to contact the company! I finally persuaded them to do so, especially as the company had said all they need to do is call and say which shop they are, what the fault is to get the approval and then send the bill when they're done.
But then when the car's repair was finally done after a month it turns out the had not even bothered to make that one phone call and they tried to bill *_me_* that extremely expensive repair, even though it was under the manufacturer's own hybrid system warranty if nothing else!! Then they claimed I had never said anything about any warranty!
I had to send them several very tough e-mails and they still tried to bill me, but eventually they just stopped trying to collect. Luckily I was prepared: I had recorded my phone calls with them proving I did mention the warranty and with them agreeing to call the warranty company.
Imagine: those people never got the warranty money just because they for some reason refused to make one phone call and send one bill! And they never managed to bill me. What?
Not all heros wear capes. That phrase has never been so true. James, how do we get this man a knighthood? His passion for making hip joints better, despite what he has been through...many would have just given up.
James. Thank you so very much for this video. It's been a personal one for me for 2 reasons. My late father (which my grandfather founded) owned a prosthetic company on the production and fittings of prosthesis until he sold the business to a large German company in 1997. He also loved his cars as do I. I'm an established mechanic of 25 years with my own company which I'm proud to have achieved and therefore say. Mike is an inspiration and I feel an exceptional man. That was a pleasure to watch and listen to. Please find others out there to make more videos like this. Not that car reviews are bad may I quickly add!!!! All the best.
Imagine the irony if in the future Dereck the conman suffering hip issues finds himself in dire need of Mike Tuke's invention.
A very good point!
Hello Derrick, We meet again. Your hips will cost you £20m.
@@nakoma5 he gets the metal one.
@@BrooklynBear63 Fit Derek with a lead brain implant.
The last SAW film???
This was an amazing 'interview' displaying two sides of humanity ! I am not surprised at the 100,000 views on the first day of release. James has the knack of letting his subjects chat away without interruption. Mr Tuke came across as a humble genius who really must have played down his suffering. A good man.
My heart goes out to Mr. Tuke, honest decent human being. I went through something much smaller but the thief in my case was the government. I was forced out by local Bureaucracy, and between the Feds and State they took 46% of everything I worked for. The amazing criminal crap that comes out of the closet when you have worked hard to try and have a little piece of the "American Dream" boggles the mind. God Bless you Mr. Tuke.
City governments are some of the worst customers and some of the main sources of personal debt for self employed people and small businesses.
Hawk Tuke spit on dat ting
I bought a Mk II from JD Classics many moons ago. It was fine once I restored it. I live in Maldon and a JD Classics building that was a workshop is now a builders suppliers,
This video is the best thing I have ever seen on YT and totally engrossing.. Mike, you are a very brave man and thank you for baring your soul like that and for teaching me so much fascinating information about orthopaedics engineering and thank you James for broadcasting this incredible story.
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How refreshingly interesting, humble story amid many of those fantastic, white-teeth influencers telling you how to live your life and be happy in front of the unpaid cars, houses or boats.
This is the real life, this is the reality that can hit you doesn’t matter how passionate and successful(or not) you are.
Great job James. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks to both of you for providing this background. Mr Tuke has shared his life story which is quite amazing. I’m sorry that he was conned, but given the way he has detailed it he hasn’t allowed it to change him. Win, lose or draw in court, he’s won in life.
When he’s worn out the hips in long distance walking, maybe he can come back and tell us how the new ceramic hip does!😁
Truly shocking story, but what an amazing, true gentleman Mike is, and a hero with regards to his work on hip and knee replacement that has helped to so many people. His use of the word "fun" so many times during the film speaks volumes for his character
As an aside to my last comment, this is what a man that has given his careers life blood for the good of everyone and asked for nothing looks like. Honestly and integrity are valuable qualities very very few people have nowadays. It simply blows my mind that this man's work has improved the quality of tens and tens of thousands of people's lives .
The way he sat and told his story, this guy is a very natural speaker I really could listen to him for hours.
Loved listening to Mike and his horror story. Have myself been too trusting in the past and paid the price but nowhere to the extent that Mike has so have some empathy. Thank you for taking so much time to bring us this amazing man and his story. I am at the start of hip issues so who knows maybe I will end up with a ceramic one! Thanks again James. Best wishes. Terry.
An amazing Gentleman. I am forty four minutes into video and the engineering content on joint replacement is incredible.
I'm so glad you said that! I was in two minds about whether to keep it, but I found it absolutely fascinating so I hoped someone else would too
@@JayEmmOnCars James I have to agree with @mischafalkenau4537. This unexpected detour is fascinating!
@@JayEmmOnCarsoh it's definitely interesting - and helps build the picture of what a great guy Mike is and helps build the empathy for his situation. No-one should come away from this thinking this is an 'oh dear some lucky millionaire lost a few of his millions - I'm sure he didn't notice and deserved it anyway' situation. It's so far, far from that!
Mike has worked so hard, from nothing, doing great things that absolutely transform people's quality of life - and then shown continued support and commitment to that and his employees, when it looked like that was going to be shut down not long after he'd sold it!
What a guy.
@@JayEmmOnCars great video! I thought that bit was the best bit. Someone knowledgeable and talking passionately is always good. Plus it was the happy part of the video compared to what happened next…
Being an osteopath, I geeked out on the orthopaedics…
But I felt myself cringing when Mike started reeling off the list, and cost of cars that he was enticed to buy…I can only wish him good fortune for him and his family.
There was a classic car dealer in Maldon known as Robin Hood.... This is a gripping video, excellent interview. Its quite unbelievable seeing the same JD Classics trucks in paddocks at historic race meetings with the same sign writing on them, bizarre decision to reuse the name.
Man - I love listening to real experts. How he explains so clearly the knee and hip replacement parts is beautiful
Around the same time as Mr Tuke was going through this, perhaps a few weeks earlier we were going to buy 2 x 250 GT SWB from JD. In the middle of the deal they suddenly dropped the price a lot . And guess what, an American snapped the cars up! But then suddenly the American would resell the cars to us for a much higher price. We just said: Run Forest Run! A month later the house of cards fell down.
Mirror of Coys 1983.
Well done for running.
Thankyou Mr.Tuke for being so open from your years of bad misfortune. I think that was very brave on your part to tell the whole truth but also to open other people’s eyes to these conmen. I cannot believe that the British judicial system is so complicated and slow. It is also sad that the Police don’t have the resources to deal with fraudsters.
It would interest me to know what this criminal is doing now, without sitting behind bars.
Well done Jayemm for sticking with the story, that is true, professional journalism. Let’s hope the European fiasco treats the fantastic ceramic hip replacement with respect and it gets it’s stamp of approval.
Many years ago the business my mother ran was a victim of a con merchant, it cost her a fortune and took years to get a result, although it hardly covered the financial cost, let alone the years of stress. In this case the Police were involved, but it still took them many years of investigation to build a case that the CPS would go to court with, they have to feel they have a good chance of a successful prosecution before proceeding, no doubt many Constabularies look at the resources it takes for a case that may never happen and decide its better to put them elsewhere.
What a fascinating chap. I got ripped off by a fraudster. I got nowhere as a creditor to his business but he went to prison and police proceeds of crime found hidden bank accounts and after 10 years I got it all back. It was thousands rather than millions, but he shouldn't give up hope.
These type of videos are the best thing you do....and IMHO the best of there type on UA-cam.
Great "entertainment" if that's the correct word!
Thanks for taking the time to film, edit and post 👌
Cheers Alistair 👍
Thanks for watching Alastair
You've done a Good thing, giving Mike a platform to tell his story James.
I'm sure it's helped Him just to get it off his chest & given the warning to the rest of us, that he wished passed on.
Great Work.
Mike’s is a fascinating story, both the obvious one of how he was tricked, but also how he’s created his own business from scratch, pretty much twice in effect. Not only that, but his business has benefited thousands of people. We could do with a few more Mikes in this world in my opinion. I hope he does recoup at least some of his money that he’s been swindled out of. It’s good of him to share his story and it’s a salutary lesson for all of us.
Mikes...
@@resnonverba137Where the more than one Mike?
@@peterlee5535 'We could do with a few more Mike’s in this world...' Does that answer your question?
@@resnonverba137 It does indeed and I stand corrected :)
@@peterlee5535 You are a gent 😁
This was a great video - not just the car bits but also the story of Mr Tukes’s life. Such a great guy. Here’s to you Mike. Thanks for sharing your story
Beautifully told and produced story. Fabulous work - not often I find it easy to have empathy with wealthy folk who hit financial difficulty but this video really provokes a sense of understanding of a decent chap trying to do the right thing for people other than himself.
Thanks very much - this is exactly what I wanted to do by sharing the story of Mike's beginnings. Having heard it myself, and the circumstances, I realised there was so much of a human element to this tale which deserved to be shared
Mike Tuke is a superb man. A true gentleman. Wish him well.
I did not 'skip' one second as I just had to listen carefully to every word spoken. As a person waiting for a hip replacement, I was most interested in the history and development of orthopaedic engineering and as a classic car enthusiast, the fraud story was compelling whilst at the same time, very upsetting. I'm still processing all the content, but please may I pass on my thanks to you both for having the bravery to make this superb video.
What a brilliant man. A true gentleman. He should get a lifetime achievement award. Truly remarkable. Thank you for making this public. Barry from Dublin
Thank you for making this video. Being an retired orthoapedic surgeon and evolved about the same them as Tukes. I remember attending seminars with Chanley and Freeman .. I am also a car collector and have been in similar position as Tukes. You should do the same for paintings, wine collecting and antique furniture. Exactly duplicates of what's happening in the classic car trade. Money corrupts and trust nobody
Agreed, all of those industries have their fair share of dodgy characters.
Do you mean Lovejoy wasn't fiction?
I do agree though, I worked in Motorsport for many years, you have people with money and passion, but not always a great knowledge of the workings of motor racing and there are people who take them to the cleaners, although some maybe should have been a bit more hands on when they decide to buy a race team.
I feel so sorry for him. At 76 and he's still goimg through it. I hope that he has now turned the corner on this and his business enterprises and the future is bright for him. Thank you for sharing this story and making a wider audience aware of these kind of cowboys.
Welcome to the world of business and legalities. It is not so different in other countries. Having spent a lifetime in construction I can empathise with this man.
I live in the US and some years ago I was involved in the buying and selling of collectible firearms. The most important thing I learned was, 'Buy the gun, not the story'. You can substitute any collectible for 'gun' and it's just as true.
Exactly that!
Too many stories with cars.
I don't care who owned it, if the condition is rubbish and it drives poorly I don't buy it.
Service history means nothing if it drives like a shed.
@@MrSloika in the UK,, Provenance is Very Very important ,, the same as car number plates,, a form of old fashioned snobbery
What an incredible and enthralling story, that this wonderful gentleman was swindled out of so much money by an absolute rogue shows the utter lack of justice in the world.
Even before 0:59, I knew I had to go to the kitchen and make myself a cup of tea. What a fascinating yet unfortunate tale! Mike looks like an extremely knowledgeable and humble bloke, and I can only hope he gets something positive out of this beyond the money.
Would be nice to hear a story on the crooked dealings of Coys as well.
Not enough space on UA-cam
The real great Classic Car Robbery in the press was Coys. Well before 2000.
One _still registered as _*_stolen_* turned up in the 2023 Mercedes World auction. Same vin number.
London Met still have them.
Yes, this was a marathon piece of viewing. But it's a marathon that SHOULD be watched. Not just to learn about the malfeasance that was rampant at JD Classics, but to learn about the frankly amazing story of Finsbury Orthopaedics, an example of what we can achieve as a species when we put our minds to it. I could listen to him talking about his work developing replacement joints for weeks, and we NEED more people like him in this world.
Jay, I cannot commend your piece of public service highly enough. An example of UA-cam at its finest.
I became far more glued to the science and engineering rather than the legal disquiet which ultimately is what Mike Tuke can reflect as much more important.
Nice guy and refreshingly honest video about the real difficulties of any business. I’m sick of all the smug UA-camrs boasting about the millions they’ve made. Good luck to them, but great to have some balance and recognition life has its ups and downs!!
Well done to all involved. A truly courageous piece of film making.
Well there has always been something of a bad side to the UK automotive industry, but this story is on another level. But what really came through for me, beyond the car losses, is what an amazing man this is sharing his story. As an aerospace des eng, I know something of the passion and drive that's required to succeed in an industry, however it's a very rare thing to see that passion translated through to such an engaging, thoughtful and caring human being. Thanks for sharing your story, I feel a little better about the human race having heard you talk about your wider story. How fantastic that you achieved what you have, and the cars that you've owned sounded amazing. But you must have had such a positive impact on so many people's lives because of your work and products you development. What an inspirational man.
Thank you Sir
What a great video. Most interesting as I am a car enthusiast and an orthopaedic surgeon who specialises in hip replacement. I nearly fell off my chair when I saw that subject of your storey was Mike Tuke. I have met him many times at orthopaedic conferences and had many a good chat with him. I never realised that he was a car enthusiast, that he was a multi-millionaire or that he had been the subject of such fraud. He is very un-assuming, just dead keen to persuade people like me to use his hip replacements!
I remember all of this going on as I was student at Imperial College at the time. Brings back a lot of memories of that time and the great people that I interacted with.
What an epic story, I rarely watch such long videos from start to finish but this story really captured me, such a remarkable and very articulate man and as sinister as what happened to him, Mike really seems to be getting on with life, thanks for sharing hope the overall message spreads far so all are aware of the lessens learned.
Wow may I wish this amazing gentlemen only the best of luck as he changed the lives of I guess in the 10’s of thousands which makes what happened worse and as others have said the horror of being conned can last a long time! it would have been so easy to cut this down to just the scandal but what we get is an incredible story - just brilliant and I think these series with cars as a backdrop to incredible life stories are amazing!
Thanks Charles. It was a bit of a risk to leave in the life story and medical part, but I personally found it fascinating and hoped that others would too!
@@JayEmmOnCars If you had left out the life story and the medical engineering part, the story would look much more like "fool and his money are soon parted, boohoo", Telling the other facets of Mike's life show us the ways in which he is otherwise very savvy in engineering and growing the company, not to mention developing products that do a tremendous public good. It is not a stretch to imagine that his penchant for classic cars to furnish his milieu, and to experience sensorily, is intimately tied to his sensitivity to the qualities that would make man-made hip joints better and better. Perhaps not required, but helps to fertilize.
Jay this good man’s story really was needing to be told to a wide audience so thank you for having him on your channel. It’s great how his life career has met your life story through your Dads life experience.
Truely horrific story and typical of the person it happens to. A genuine, lovely human being duped by the scum of the earth and failed by a corrupt judicial system. James this is, in my opinion, one of the best pieces of work that you have done. Congratulations for deciding that the story needed to be told and to your guest for allowing himself to be shown for what he is, a decent, honest, hard working man and with an amazing technology that if we can rid of this ridiculous bureaucracy will help so many people.
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed the story
The judicial system isn't corrupt - as born out by this very story (Mike got the judgements he needed, just fine).
It's the underfunding and under resourcing of the court system by the last government that has thoroughly backed up the system to mean it's taken him so long and then it's also the legislation behind it that has not helped Mike to be able to recover his money (the limited personal liability of directors for trading a company illegally and then putting it into administration; the legal standing (pecking order) of unsecured creditors; the process of administration and bankruptcy etc.)
None of that is the fault of the judiciary.
Thanks again Jayemm for getting Mike to share his story. It's a shame it had to happen to this Gentleman. Mike admitted he didn't know anything about Classic Cars and i would question why he didn't get an expert valuer to value these cars considering the amount of money he was spending. The valuer would have saved him a fortune. Unfortunately it's been a very expensive lesson for him.
Really enjoyed that, & I feel so, so sorry for the bloke. He seems so honest & genuine, but that was ultimately his downfall.
Derek probably couldn't believe his luck when Mike rocked up with £20m burning a hole in his back pocket, so he weighed him up as a gullible mark & royally stiffed him without having the decency to at least use axle grease as lubrication!
Sometimes, it's better to take your medicine, walk away & move on, but I fully understand how anger at the liberties taken can prevent you from doing so. I seriously hope he gets his dough back & finds inner peace.
I've had a similar experience & albeit I ultimately prevailed, looking back, it's questionable whether the toll it took on my life, physical & mental health was worth it.
That's the question isn't it - not can you win, but what is the cost of winning?
And that question in itself continues to eat you up long afterwards. What you gain in satisfaction of winning, has to be balanced against the personal toll & cost it took to prevail.
Most in Mike's situation only gain the satisfaction of being proved correct, but they'll never get their money back, & time spent, chasing justice. Not to mention the stress involved.
This cautionary tale is bringing back bad memories for me, but I was on the opposite side as the supplier up against a dodgy Trump-like client.
Business is a viper pit...
@@JayEmmOnCars Unfortunately its not the "winning" that really matters, its the reward from winning.
I'll tell you there are definitely winners in these situations; the legal "profession".
@@Ozcrazy49 Winner or loser the lawyers always get paid. If you don't or can't pay they will sue you till your arse bleeds and then charge you extra for the privilege.
A really, really worthwhile UA-cam video! Mike comes across as an honest and articulate gentleman. His contribution to medical advancement in orthopaedics is immense. I wish him all the very best for the future and look forward to seeing his ceramic on ceramic innovation become mainstream and that he gets his just reward for it. As for the fraudster his reputation is in tatters but I guess it does not bother him. His preoccupation will continue to be ducking and diving. Thanks JayEmm for your wisdom in letting the story flow from Mike without interruption.
Who would have known the butterfly effect between a shadowy car dealer and many thousands of people denied a pain free existence. Thank you James for sharing his story and the risks involved in the minefield of classic cars. Ed
Rare genuine Gentleman.
I came to the conclusion a long time ago of staying out of the courts because my lawyer school mate pointed out it's the lawyers who always win, no one else , he's a wealthy chap !!
CAVEAT EMPTOR has always been my slogan and I've never bought a 🍋 yet ⚠️
A very dodgy industry with some very dodgy individuals. Some even have UA-cam channels. Thanks for bring this to everyone’s attention Jayemm
care to name names.
Absolutely not
@@tomnewham1269 Vintage & Prestige of Northampton Ltd
@@davey235 If they have UA-cam channels then I would like to know, that way I'm not supporting dodgy people and not wasting my time watching them.
@@davey235 Ah go on Davy... Give us some pointers...😀😀😀
Hi James, there was no chance of me hitting the skip button. What a fascinating story, told by a lovely man. A man who is able to hold his head high with pride of all he has accomplished so far. Thank you both for sharing this story, it was evident that a lot of work went into it.
JayEmm, this gentleman made my day. His presentation was very jocular and serious at the same time. Thank you.
What a wonderful guy Mike is. Genuine, dedicated, loyal and kind and that was taken advantage of.
I've not had any dealings with JD Classics (way out of my league!) but I rent a barn on a farm very nearby them that I use as a workshop/storage for some of my cars and tap into the automotive businesses in Maldon quite regularly too, so I'm very familiar with the original JD Classics - used to regularly drive round the showroom and workshops (a vast and very very impressive setup, taking over most of an industrial estate) to see what was in stock and dream of what might be; and I'd notice their transporter vehicles on the road and see their name at Goodwood etc - and then a few years ago I noticed the company shutter and wondered what on earth had happened. Had no idea this was behind it!
Shocking.
Glad you told this story.
It's amaizing the world we live in, some people devote their life to inprove and enrich others lives while others are only interested in their own wealth, both part of the same species living on the same planet. The automotive industry has always been the easy money route for any con artist or aspiring con artist and I don't see this stopping anytime soon.
Just watched to the end. An amazing story. The part that sticks with me is the intelligence and ingenuity of this gentleman in the field of orthopaedics. Proud to be a fellow British mechanical engineer working in the health tech sector.
What an absolutely interesting interview James. I confess I was captured from the first minute and didn’t skip ahead at all, watched from start to finish.
What a Gentleman, straight talking and honest bloke .pleasure to sit and listen to you talk.
Remember when Brits were like this gentleman, now when I visit the UK I simply don’t recognize this work ethic and innovation.
British people have always come in all shapes, sizes and characters
@@JayEmmOnCarsas opposed to English .
@@andrewgiblin3468 after many years not on the island ... I had to return .... damm it these islanders are really the most disgusting society I have ever been exposed to ...personally disgusted and upset at being born on this island ...( but that was of no choice of mine) 😆😊☺🌍... you observation is true ....
Incredible story about an incredible man. I have to say Mike has balls of steel to keep smiling and also setting up a new company through all of this. Thank you to the both of you for this enthralling video. Absolutely first class and a lesson in how to do UA-cam for the jump up and down while screaming about the cheapest car channels.
very god i was a mechanic for 48 years i had a ceramic hip replacement in2009 still going strong god bless mate we all get stung sometimes thank you .
That wasn’t a sting , that was the cat n nine tails with salt rubbed in afterwards with a Brillo pad !
What an unbelievable saga this has been. Thank you both for sharing this with the wider world.
Mike you are an absolute legend. I hope you succeed in business for the second time.
I couldn't stop listening. What an interesting man and story. Thank you. Hit all the buttons.
Thanks for listening
Thank you for bringing us this story. What a lovely gentleman Mike is and what a contribution he has brought to mankind. Unlike Derek who has seemingly done little more than take what is not his for his own gain. The equanimity which Mike has after his ordeal is inspiring. Great video!
If you want to sell your classic car use a well-known public classic car auction stick a reserve price on it and see what it makes, the safest way to sell a classic.
I mean this was 2009, these well-known classic car sites were still in infancy and many high asset value cars were still being traded by brokers and agents.
Sounds like he wouldn't been any worse off with we buy and car. 🤣At least they don't get you to finance an additional £10m of cars to buy yours.
James, this is an epic story and it’s a credit to you for the telling of it. I’m likewise thankful for Mr Tuke and sharing his life story, his accomplishments and his vulnerability.
I hope both you and Mr Tuke receive the best rewards for your work. The salient conclusion you so succinctly made is how one persons actions can have such a huge effect on many lives.
In this instance, in stead of focusing on the negative outcome of Derek’s dishonesty, I’m thankful for the effect Mr Tuke’s life on every person who has received an artificial joint. What a remarkable man!
Fantastic piece of work James! Really enjoyed it, I love the way it's edited to look like a continuous story from Mike (I assume you are asking questions to keep it all on track, but it flows so beautifully).
Thanks Jason - yeah it is basically an interview but with the questions cut out
Very well produced.
I was aware of the bankruptcy but this is the first time I hear the full story Thank you for telling the story
What an amazing guy, fascinating stuff. Sending this to my med-tech friends. Which is weird considering it's car channel vid, but there you are. Engineering is engineering, I guess. Very good piece of journalism on the motoring scam too! Thanks for this amazing piece of work Jay.
Probably the best UA-cam episode I have watched in the past decade James.
What an insight but for me, as a Design & Technology educator at heart (and a massive petrolhead), the ingenuity, design, hands on manufacture and entrepreneurial mindset of Mike to get to where he has with his orthopaedic work is outstanding, and I really do hope that Mike is able to bring closure to this professionally and personally.
Enjoy the business and getting the ceramic hip over the line, enjoy the spannering on your lovely cars Mike (and yes, this episode will be shared James - we’ll done and thank you for making this and bringing awareness to what can be an unjust, unfair and gluttonous hobby due to some horrible people, as much as it can be a wonderfully fair and enjoyable one 👍)
I live in Maldon and watched JD Classics grow from a small classic restorers to a much larger business. I drooled at their 2 floor showroom (from the outside, being a mere pleb I wasn't allowed inside). It seemed to be doing well, and loved regularly spotting 'dream cars' out for test drives and MOT's etc. Shame it had such a sh*t downfall....
James, it takes a lot to get me to put pen to paper, so to speak. This is an outstanding piece of journalism outside your usual , insightful posts. Well done.
Having said that, Mr Tuke deserves recognition for his lifetime’s hard work in a field that I know well.
I am sorry that he fell for a conman but admire his grit in bringing him to (expensive) justice.
I look forward to seeing more of your work.
That's one hell of a story! A great interview of a very interesting Man and the horrendous fraud committed on him. A big thank you to you James for making this video.
Thanks for watching
Such a wonderful episode and antidote for the ever more click bait, chaotic videos put out there on YT.
Very relaxing and informative watch, fascinating to the end. Much appreciation and respect for Mike to share his story with us.
Thank you for sharing. Totally agree that suing fraudsters is expensive and you rarely get your money back. The legal system turns slowly and fraudsters are usually 5 steps ahead of it
Started watching the video thinking I’d skip it. Was glued all the way through. Great video. Very sad these days that it’s still so easy to scam good people and yet it’s so bloody difficult for that person to get their money back.
Um, fascinating story. The court system has been broken for a very long time. The little man/woman just get crushed... thanks for sharing. John
What a remarkable and wonderful man. No consolation for your financial loss but your attitude and behaviour is extraordinary. Every best wish. Peter
Loved this video. Reminds me of the E-type price hike scandal in the 1980’s. If you want a spectacular scandal you should cover the mid-West movie replicas (Christine’s & Bullit Mustangs), from the U.S. in the noughties. Involved state trooper shoot-outs, police raids, customers cars being hidden in a river. You couldn’t make it up.
I'm going to have to look into that now
Unbelievable Geoff. Sat watching this in my Freelander, glad It survived
Great video James. You deserve massive credit for having the patience and courage to make and share such content.
Thanks for watching!