I agree with the comment below, I reckon your chain is B. All in all im very very shocked by what Apple/Logic have created, it will help so many learners to achieve broadcast quality results. Ive just used it on a pro premaster for an EP that I have sent to be mastered and cant wait to do the A/B comparison on that. Thanks for the video. Lee (please tell us soon which is which)
I could tell his was b right away. I’ve noticed Logics width feature doesn’t just push the sides out farther, it’s spreads the middle. When he was playing with that towards the end of the tutorial, I noticed the piano become unfocused and bouncing around from side to side, and i noticed that in A as well, where in B, everything was focused and had a place in the stereo field, actual depth in terms of feeling instruments move closer and farther from you. A human definitely crafted that.
Yes the key component to listen to is the piano here - Logic doesn't do a great job of controlling it or recognising it as a different instrument which human would of course... maybe that's something that they will update it with
kinda wish they'd tell us which is A or B so we can assess how useful the tool could be. Either way I think A sounds better. B is pushing a lot but A feels like a normal track if that makes sense. Mastering shouldn't be awfully noticeable, it should be an invisible push, and A to me feels like a push rather than B which is a bit of a shove in my opinion.
I felt A was a little tighter, less width. My initial impact was that i liked A more. B seemed to be a little less controlled, the stereo field was almost too wide- and something dragged the vibe down a touch, A had a drop more lemon zest.
@@NoizeLondon I tried it for a short few min. to see how it works and the result was good. I think I like the convenience. As for plugins I have iztope advance and other and yes it works as well. I just would like the plugins to think for me and me concentrate on music creation.
I keep hearing about this mastering assistant and it sucks that I don't have a computer that's capable of running logic Pro 10.8. I wish I could try it
I got the last of the intel iMacs before they got rid of them. 2020 27" iMac and I can run the latest Mac OS to run Logic Pro 10.8. I tried out the new mastering assistant but since I don't have the newer M1Silicon Macs I don't get all the features. Only 1 preset "Clean" so I'm just sticking to Ozone for my master assistant with tons more features.
I prefer A as is more thin and the sound doesn't seem to be out of place everthing is in harmony in the B masteribg some sounds do stand out too much. That piano sounds loud.
Hello, unfortunately, this Assistant does not work with analog equipment and the I/O inputs introduce noise and significantly amplifies the signal, so be careful. Maybe someone has a solution to this problem ? Not being able to analyze the material with an external compressor on I/O causes silence.
Giving people a knob called "Loudness" is a recipe for disaster 🤣I can pretty confidently guess B is the Mastering Assistant because we had a sense of its character from the tutorial. But regardless, I personally prefer A here because it has a more spacious midrange and is the kind of thing you can really crank without it becoming harsh.
A is more balanced and reserved - B is more louder in Low Mid and Mid a little saturated -> B is Logic Mastering Assistent
You sir have a great ear ;)
I think B is your chain. It releases the track smoother than the first one, and has a tad more depth. Pretty darn similar though.. I'm impressed.
I think too, B seems to be the chain !
I agree with the comment below, I reckon your chain is B. All in all im very very shocked by what Apple/Logic have created, it will help so many learners to achieve broadcast quality results. Ive just used it on a pro premaster for an EP that I have sent to be mastered and cant wait to do the A/B comparison on that. Thanks for the video. Lee (please tell us soon which is which)
B is the custom chain for sure
What makes you say that?
@@NoizeLondon there’s an organic richness to B, the low end especially gave it away for me. So am I right? 😅
I could tell his was b right away. I’ve noticed Logics width feature doesn’t just push the sides out farther, it’s spreads the middle. When he was playing with that towards the end of the tutorial, I noticed the piano become unfocused and bouncing around from side to side, and i noticed that in A as well, where in B, everything was focused and had a place in the stereo field, actual depth in terms of feeling instruments move closer and farther from you. A human definitely crafted that.
Yes the key component to listen to is the piano here - Logic doesn't do a great job of controlling it or recognising it as a different instrument which human would of course... maybe that's something that they will update it with
What a great methodical way to check each component.
Thanks
You're most welcome :)
kinda wish they'd tell us which is A or B so we can assess how useful the tool could be. Either way I think A sounds better. B is pushing a lot but A feels like a normal track if that makes sense. Mastering shouldn't be awfully noticeable, it should be an invisible push, and A to me feels like a push rather than B which is a bit of a shove in my opinion.
I felt A was a little tighter, less width. My initial impact was that i liked A more. B seemed to be a little less controlled, the stereo field was almost too wide- and something dragged the vibe down a touch, A had a drop more lemon zest.
Nothing like a bit of citrus 🍊
Thank You for the video I’m a beginner waiting to get my MacBook Pro then logic just watching and learning.
B sounds fuller.
A more airy.
Both could be custom, or Logic.
Plot twist - Everything is AI, including Noize London, and this comment response
@@NoizeLondon 😂😎🤖
B seems more open and organic but both very similar. Which is which?
I tried logic mastering and it’s really good - external plugins will start to fade slowly, it’s given and just a matter of time
Have you tried combining the two?
@@NoizeLondon I tried it for a short few min. to see how it works and the result was good. I think I like the convenience. As for plugins I have iztope advance and other and yes it works as well. I just would like the plugins to think for me and me concentrate on music creation.
I think it’s at its best working over a premix with other vest’s implemented.
It’s surgical and pragmatic. You need to mix in the life before using it imo.
I keep hearing about this mastering assistant and it sucks that I don't have a computer that's capable of running logic Pro 10.8. I wish I could try it
I got the last of the intel iMacs before they got rid of them. 2020 27" iMac and I can run the latest Mac OS to run Logic Pro 10.8. I tried out the new mastering assistant but since I don't have the newer M1Silicon Macs I don't get all the features. Only 1 preset "Clean" so I'm just sticking to Ozone for my master assistant with tons more features.
I’m pretty impressed with Logic’s results.
Yeah I thought so too - have you tried it out yet?
Louder is not always better. Dynamics are what create the emotion. Slamming the signal becomes tiring very quickly. Just my personal opinion.
Yes I agree - it depends on the genre and what the client wants - what LUFS do you tend to aim for when working?
lol
Yep
A is lacking a bit of clarity that B offers. A is Logic Pro?
I prefer A as is more thin and the sound doesn't seem to be out of place everthing is in harmony in the B masteribg some sounds do stand out too much. That piano sounds loud.
I agree ;)
I like A. Clearer to me. Though I'm listening on a tablet
Where most people listen to music these days eh
B sounds the best
Hello, unfortunately, this Assistant does not work with analog equipment and the I/O inputs introduce noise and significantly amplifies the signal, so be careful. Maybe someone has a solution to this problem ? Not being able to analyze the material with an external compressor on I/O causes silence.
I would recommend using your analog gear prior to the mastering assistant and then using this to 'finish' things off :)
B wider and less muddy than A
A > ai
B > Pro
B sounds richer, smoother, fuller to me... Think that's you're pro master... Did you master the track yourself? (the non logic x version)
B sounds better, wich one is it?
I think it's the chain
Like more B , what is?
A sounds better period
I'm going with B. Both sound good but B has more definition; cleaner bass and punchier snare.
B is what tho?
@@NoizeLondon B is your chain.
Giving people a knob called "Loudness" is a recipe for disaster 🤣I can pretty confidently guess B is the Mastering Assistant because we had a sense of its character from the tutorial. But regardless, I personally prefer A here because it has a more spacious midrange and is the kind of thing you can really crank without it becoming harsh.
Also totally with you on the loudness dial haha
B is wider, breath a bit more, and sounds a bit more crispy.
However, it's hard to say who's A or B
They're so close - intentionally so btw ;)
i A/B ed it against Izotope Nectar,
Its OK, But Nectar is Far Superior.
We think so too ;)
The louder I turned it up the harsher B got. I would say A is yours, feels more balanced.
Yours is B? Gotta say that this new LPX update has some great new features tho.
Yeah man it's dope!!
B is Logic
A sounds better on iPhone 14 speaker
B.
B for better
A Logic, B 3rd party. Am I wrong? :)
A B sounds the same
Are you sure? Listen one more time...
like butter can't tell the difference
Both mixes sound mediocre
thanks so much !!