The New Logic Pro Mastering Assistant Replaces ALL My Plugins?! (Walkthrough)
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Logic Pro just dropped their brand new Mastering Assistant. This means that you have a new INCLUDED option for FREE (assuming you already own Logic) that can... potentially give you pro mastering on your tracks? But how does it REALLY stack up against what professionals use in the studio on a normal basis? X O'Connor (GRAMMY winning producer) dives in to compare.
In case you missed the announcement from Apple, here's a quick summary:
Apple has released a significant update to Logic Pro for both Mac and iPad, enhancing the music creation process with new features. The Mastering Assistant helps users fine-tune their mixes, ensuring professional quality by adjusting dynamics, frequency, and loudness. On Mac, Logic Pro introduces 32-bit recording for higher audio quality and two innovative tools: Sample Alchemy, which transforms audio samples into new sounds, and Beat Breaker, a plugin for reshaping and resequencing audio.
For iPad users, Quick Sampler Recorder mode has been added, allowing the capture of sounds via the built-in microphone to create custom instruments. Improved multitasking features and project round-tripping between iPad and Mac enhance workflow flexibility. New sound packs, improved browsing, and additional in-app lessons further support creators in exploring these updates.
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Thank you for this video!! As a student producer, this new feature is helping me understand mastering a lot better, and i feel WAY more confident about how to go about polishing my mixes now that I've seen you explore it. Thanks for your honest and optimistic review of this, I'm so excited to get mixing!!!
I just used the Master Assistant and I LOVE it. I mix a live orchestra and vocals and it keeps it warm and vibrant.
Nice I have it on ipad i wanna see what it does
Bro Apple snapped with this plugin. I tried it this morning, and I was like... I like this.. An no disrespect to you, but it sound better than all your expensive plugins. That's not a knock to you, but more to show how good it actually sounds.
I like more the plugins. And the comparation with Ozone and LANDR? Anybody know?
If you not running the new silicon chip like the M1,M2 or M3, the mastering chain doesn't work...I'm still running the last Intel chip on my Imac Pro 2020...can't charge between the characters on this tool if you not using an M chip...
😂😂😂😂😂
It’s a master assistant, not a mixbus assistant so I would keep the Pultec and SSL bus comp plug-ins on when you compare to logic’s mastering. Great video !
I work with Logic since it ran, under another name, on the Atari 1040. Nevertheless mastering was always a myth to me. A friend of mine did it for me. But now I am sure I can get where I want (including your advice on some extra eq and compression) with this fantastic tool. Thank you a lot for this unbiased test.
FYI You could have adjusted the lows and mids with the manual EQ adjustments
That's it, I'm upgrading from Monterey to Ventura to get this tool! I have a small UA-cam channel with shinobue flute and still don't have a go-to master chain, and I love that this is so simple and costs nothing to me! Thank you so much for this video!
This will be absolutely perfect for you with this!
Needs Apple silicon
Dont do it! Other tools are coming out daily that u can use with any DAW; dont get locked into one software. Even Landr has one now that is decent.
@@mhavockWhy would you give that horrible advice not to do it? Unless you work inside the Apple ecosystem you may not realize the genius of this mastering tool. Like all Apple tools, the more you work with it, there is massive power inside each tool… most only use 25% of each tool’s true potential. Even the most bare synth VST inside Logic can do what most paid VST’s do and more.
What are your thoughts on the Andre 3K flute album?
I’m glad you put that out there I’m checking correlation meter and what not. Studying how to work with others in music production and mastering songwriting and musicianship. But had to stop and figure in this new mastering assistant. I’m actually going to release my first song using it. This is some interesting. Will I only use just that? I think it can in mastering.
You can also analyze specific regions (like in this video) by highlighting the yellow, or entire song by not highlighting a region
Great, honest review, thank you sir! Loudness ain't the beAll/endAll no mo', gorgeous tune btw!
Exactly! Thanks a bunch!
Logic is amazing. I’ve had the pleasure to mix through RND MBP hardware unit lately and I feel my masters are pretty much done, we’ve been using the new Slate Virtu AI mastering for a final touch and that’s about it! Thanks for the video dude.
My mastering chain is Logic's stock adlimiter, the stock channel EQ, the stock Gain, and the Logic Pro X Loudness Meter. If a mix seems lacking highs I put either the Steven Slate Fresh Air on top of the chain, which is my only outboard plugin, and/or the stock Exciter at the top or bottom of the chain, depending on what type of overhead enhancement I want to enable. After these chain elements, I put the Loudness Meter on the bottom to measure the LUFS. The Logic Pro X Mastering Assistant is good, but how I have used it does not top my chain. However, I have yet to use the Loudness feature and the EQ slider on the Assitant module, which will be my next project's objective.
Very cool, thanks for sharing your chain. Logic definitely makes some great guilt in plugs.
This will save a lot of people from getting wound up, chasing their own tail (sometimes for weeks on end) to find the "sweet spot mix".
Solid gold info man, Tx very much.
Artists and producers also need to remember, will the punters even know (or care) about micro differences in the final outcome?
totally agree with you
this is dope. ill use it for my beat master
I'm going to give it a whirl with my latest mix. I'm excited about it though, especially as a producer who's not incredibly established yet. -Could be a make or break improvement. Your point about still adding EQ and Compression to the mastering chain is well taken.
Thanks for this. I've tried it, and it works well, especially for entry level mastering folks like myself. I'd love to see a 'best practise' video with Logic's mastering plugin along with Logic's other mastering tools, and/or free plugins
It is indeed a great entry level tool!!
This video is very helpful, thank you
You hit it at the end. If you use mastering assistant, as an assistant, in conjunction with your mastering chain, it works wonderfully. I think MA gets you right about there but if you put a pultec or other eq on prior to, it rounds it out. Try it with your regular mastering chain, then add MA at the end, re-analyze it, and see if you like it.
Thanks for sharing & testing it! :)
Great review! Thank you. What kind of headphones are you using?
Please Please Please match the GAIN whenever you compare the difference between plugins. It annoys me so much when people compare the sound of different things when the gain isn't matched. A louder volume will generally make people think it sounds better.
I generally use the Waves Impusher and it give a good result. But a free plugin to mastering like this one.. man, it was a gift!!!
I bought a mac solely for logic. I am excited to play with this stuff!
You’re gonna love it! We have more videos coming soon about the newest big logic features.
@@OfficialFCMusic was playing with the mastering assistant and I think it will probably be my new standard. I've been happy with my mixes, but my masters have always included more guess work and hard limiting than is probably ideal. the tool sounds great right away and making adjustments is like too easy.
It’s nice to hear a good quality recording and style of music being used here. It’s almost ready to go by itself but th is plug might be something to consider - now that I’ve taken months to get a great mastering chain ! Ha
Wow! Really cool tool! Logic has done it again! It's like Logic's version of Ozone. That being said, I'm with you. I like your chain better, but like you said, there's lots of dollars on that and more analog vibe, Ozone and the Inflator which are total cheat codes, lol. But man! Logic's thing sounds really good, just really clean and less vibe/excitement.
I like that you thing turning of custom EQ does anything and then stating that you noticed anything
love your energy
this is going to be so valuable for people who like to add some shine onto their rough mixes when they share them via social media or during the song writing process. In addition, even though it analyses i think its super nice that you get to manually adjust its recommendations. I believe that already understanding basic mastering chains helps you see the value in this new tool. You get EQ, metering, loudness, spread in one tool. I'm going to use if for quick and dirty improvements of social media audio. Imagine how much turn around time can be eliminated if you get good at using this tool to master your music before you dub it back into your quick share videos. And yes, i agree with the guy below...that's a really good song.
Exactly!! You get the point :)
If you do a good mix and some EQ add a little compression or a maximizer or limiter its dope
I was so stoked to try all the new features out but realized my Mac doesn’t support the new update
:( I’ve heard there’s ways to install Ventura on older macs but was wondering if it would be stable or would it just keep crashing my mac
I’m excited to start using this……also Auto Tune is updated.
Good stuff
Not replace the chain but definitely a great lift at the start of the mastering chain with a little tweaking and then build on that 🙂
Help: I have this on ipad but not on mac. Will it work if I export the mixdown and master it on ipad? Or is it multitrack based? Thx
Still need to update my Mac OS for the Logic update. How do you say it compares to Izotop's Ozone?
It’s not quite ozone but still pretty amazing - check out where we actually ab the 2 in this video - what do u think when you hear it?
Great for those who wish to revisit and reproduce the ever popular and over processed sounds so common in early 21st century music.
I think proper emphasis should be given to the word "assistant". Yes, it can give you a reasonably decent sheen. However, if you want it to match your own chain, due dligence must be done on a variety of fronts, namely eq'ing and compression / expansion, before putting the assistant to work.
Game changer 💯🙏
I love it, but you do have to push the loudness a bit, other than that it’s a brilliant update!
I also prefer your original plugin chain. I’m yet to properly experiment with Logic’s new mastering tool but I quite like the sound of EZMix when it comes to mastering..
my preference would be to use this with dynamics set to zero in combination with the Pro-L2, which i think does a better job of limiting. you could also use this as an analysis tool to get an idea of where you might be able to improve your eq. if you just wanted to throw out a quick master for a demo, this would be invaluable. i'd like to see someone run it up against the Lurssen mastering console, just for comparison.
Great points! And yes we love the Pro-L2 for limiting.
If you know its target EQ curve you could use Match EQ, I guess.
yes your chain is better! First thing i noticed is yours is more punchy, and like you said refined.
just updated after whatching your video! now a lot of my plugins when you open them show ⍰ when it comes to selecting presets etc. any idea what to do there?
How did you get the red ring around your pointer?
nice vid my bro! You should enable the THANKS button. Cheers from NZ
A-DOGS
The thing is, you had to go back to your chain to check as opposed to identifying the issues before checking. I think that speaks, erm...volumes ;)
When will Logic Pro x.8 be out?
Ozone is my favorite, but then I discovered Sonible Smart:Limit ! It sounds incredible close to Ozone. Sonible is the new star !
Thanks a lot for this video wich is very interesting! Do you Know if the mastering assistant works in full version with the processeur intel of Mac book pro?
It should work fine on whatever Mac platform you’re using it on. I used it on my MacBook Pro and it worked just fine.
Brother, maybe you can help me. I create a new track in Logic Pro x in my laptop, but I can’t see my instruments on the left side. I checked and the sound library option on the menu says that all instruments are installed. But I don’t see them. Help please please?
What mic/compressor are you using on that lead vocal? Sounds sweet.
This was our Neumann u67 thru bae 312 into distressor
The only thing it sucks is my Mac is intel and not m1 so I’m missing some of these features and I can’t find an M1 chip and I’m not trynna to buy another m1 mac. Apple so crazy expensive and so it seems I’m stuck to just mastering it instead through bandlab mastering
Which logic osx does this work on?
Great video. Awesome tune. Now make a video that gives me your results instantly!😂
I was considering purchasing Ozone 11 and now I'm not so sure.... What should I do????
How does it compare with something like Ozone? Normally I will use Ozone and then have another limiter after for serial limiting
It’s not quite to that level but almost! we show the ab of that exact question in this video - would love your opinion! Check it out - what do you think?
For me, the Ozone line gives me choice fatigue. I find the new Logic plugin reminds me of one stops like Rich Mastering. Sometimes, less is more hah
If you were to couple this with some extra EQ and compression, what would be your signal chain?
Probably would add a plug-in alliance townhouse bus compressor first
Then a fab filter pro q3 then into a mcdsp multi and compressor and maybe a pulteq eq - into this mastering suite
This + god particle = Magic
I’ve kept Izotope ozone updated for years but I still struggle with it. The mastering assistant seems too reliant on identifying a genre and I can’t classify my tracks under any of the choices. The simplicity of the Logic version could suit me more.
Apple definitely nailed it with the simplicity here. Give it a shot!
Miss a knob for the exciter, not just on/off. Probably coming up later.
Agreed!
Most industry standard DAWs are 'the holy grail' based on your own definition.
its a bit disappointing that if you'd like to use all the "Character" features in the mastering assistant you'll need the Apple silicon
I need that mix assistant xD
Logic has created a game changer with this
Would be nice to see you try it with a song that isn’t the most generic AI-created mainstream pop track ever written..
I bought mastering plugins from waves a few weeks ago and I officially regret it 😂
I used the mastering assistant on a mix recently. It's mediocre at best. It did some very weird stuff to my mix. If you own a Mac that's not an M1 type, you only get the Clean setting to use. Very strange. My mix sounded really squashed and heavy in the midrange.
Thanks for sharing. Your mileage may vary
I didn't like the clean setting either. I think you can use this plugin but you'll need to do some prep first.
you should gain match to make the comparison
Should be standard for all plugin reviews tbh
No chance against Ozone. I have both.
what song is this??? its. soooooo good
It’s one I wrote earlier this year called how to leave. It’s not released anywhere officially. -Seth
Years of work and thousands of dollars…now just push button
You don´t need such fancy Mastering tools. It´s better to do a great mix! Then a good Brickwall Limiter only works best.
Record in 30 fps not 24 on the webcam
So I used this for the first time yesterday and I absolutely hated it. It gave me a bad EQ, and any time I tried turning the loudness up I felt like the entire mix was getting completely squashed
However I will say I think it did something beautiful for your song. Maybe I need to try out some other stuff with it, but for right now my stance is it really depends on the song/project you have
Your mileage may vary :)
@@OfficialFCMusic Sorry I'm confused on what you're saying
@@nateiott4346 It's an American phrase which typically means: it might work for you, it might not.
@@KevinBSelby Gotcha. I'm American but I've never heard that one before. Thanks!
Wish I had this a few months ago 😂
Finally apple silicon machine learning is showing its meat
Спасибо👏👏👏✨🤸🏻♂️
I use FL Studio since it was Fruity loops 😂 lol but these stock plugins make me want to switch logic pro
Might be worth looking into! :)
I tried it on my club mixes, really not that impressed to be honest. I prefer Newfangled elevate.
Yep you gotta use what works for you :)
You are too happy
200 Dollars?
you forgot to mention the hidden price of buying a 5000 dollar apple computer to run it on!
Works perfectly on a $2k mba with m1.
You think $200 is a lot for an incredible world-class piece of software?😅
@@telemachia I never said that. I responded to bhaigeniushoon.
I bought a mac-mini with Logic pre-loaded 2nd hand for $250. I'm going to upgrade to this version if my hardware is suitable.
@@telemachia you think 200 USD is all you need to run this software?
You might have missed the fact that all the mastering plug-in does is things possible with the built-in plug-ins since 2013. It's just a comprehensive skin that does them a bit more elegantly. Once you learn and understand them, it's patently obvious you could have accomplished the exact same things all along.
If you know how to MIX really well, and LOUD, THIS TOOL gives us the POLISH Logic had been missing. Literally the ENTIRE reason why So many bounce out of Logic and into another DAW for mastering.
P.S
I did some studying on my latest album with this tool, i will NEVER set my track level to -1.0 Db. You can TRUE PEAK at 0.0 Db 🤫🤫🤫🤫
I'd rather only use the logic mastering instead of paying $1200 for something that really won't be the most important thing of the track. Nice video!
It really is incredible what they’ve built and included with it!
Best value for your $$$ for a daw imo@@OfficialFCMusic
Analyzing Transients 😅
It's over, Logic Rules
Some say the "assistant" is cheating. I disagree. It's there to put the shine on an already nice mix. It's not a turd polisher.
-9 is too loud. Outside of that both methods sound great.
Love Logic. Been using it for all most all my life. But if you are really serious about your audio stay away from the stock plugins. Every time i use them i feel like the audio is degraded...
there was literally 3 dots there for you to manipulate the curve and he was like trying to find it for 45 min
Considering it’s a 12 min video … lol chill
How You Not Mention FL Studio When They're The One's Who Done This First ? Now You Owe Us A Comparison Test With FL Studio 21's A.i. Mastering (Lol). And By The Way, FL Update Was Free To It Producer Edition Owner's.
Hehe cool
Average results
I just finished a song. The master assistant sounded amazing. Its awesome. Then I shared it to iTunes... now it sux. It sounds small and flat. A great party in somebody's elses house. I just bought Ozone this morning. I'm not even going to bother. Are we all in denial. As soon as a song gets formated into a wave or mp3 the dynamics go bye bye. Frustrated and done.
You are doin something wrong
My wav sounds awesome
But I pretty much mix/master then see what it did
Was about the same
Wav doesn’t flatten your mix
@13thJ Hey you're right. What i meant to say is what ever file iTunes take. Mp3s or something. . I just heard my Wave file. It's perfect. But how do I share it with anyone?
Apple Music has a different format if that’s what you mean by ‘sharing to iTunes’ the whole business of mastering is so complex I’m going to pay an engineer then specify for Spotify or Apple Music or cd because they are all different formats
@@hilaryburrows9487 that makes absolutely zero sense. No matter which platform you choose at the end of the day the best audio file you can upload is going to be a WAV
People on Spotify or people on Apple Music will determine the outcome of your results based on the stereo, system, headphones, or whatever speakers they are going to listen to your music on.
So you could pay an engineer to specify whether you want it mixed for headphones or whether you want it mixed for a club or for a car stereo but you’re never going to be able to specifically dial in a mix for Apple or Spotify
these always have the worst churchy music...where's my metal at???