@@meiru2453 That's not been my experience at all. I don't get why people keep saying that. For me, TS4 sims interact with each other so much more naturally than in TS3 most of the time. I've seen some crazy drama unfold in TS4 that's like watching a movie, I never saw much of that in TS3.
You know a game is complete dog dookie when you actually need mods to play the game ie “i wish the $60 expansion pack could alow my sims to do the thing I bought the pack for welp I’ll just download 30 mods so it’s fun “
the most tragic thing... is that everyone is pretending the Sims 4 is a great and fun game, the sims community is really brainwashed. I'm so shook ngl.
Is it possible that maybe people have different interests and different standards for what a "fun game" is? Like I'm certainly not the most avid Sims player and I agree TS3 was better than TS4, but I enjoy the game for what it is. I don't have a million DLC packs (I think I have...3? One of which I got free?) and again I'm not saying that it's the best game ever, but I absolutely disagree with saying it's the WORST game.
@@kyle-bi1uu why would she be delusional just beacuse she likes play the game, thats not ok to say, we all like different games and for many playing games maby is a time when we can escape our own life and just enjoy playing a game. Even if it has its faults etc. Most of us know sims4 has faults and Ea is not best company. But we all need to accept that some ppl like and some ppl dont likr. Name calling is not ok, both ways
@@aarachnophxbia yes!! So many people have reported to EA. But they keep ignoring it. This game that is suppose to be “lag free” is super laggy compared to the last three games.
and isn't it funny, that Maxis excuse for making the Sims 4 a closed world and not having half of the features of the previous games was because they wanted everyone to be able to play the game even on low end computers? That excuse was such a cop out for their laziness. The more packs Maxis puts out, the laggier the game gets.
If you think this is bad, wait until The Sims 5 launches as a cross platform online focused free-to-play mobile game riddled with microtransactions, and an in game currency to be exchanged for real world money. When that happens, not even the mods will save you since games that deal directly in real money typically frown upon any kind of modification/hack, to the point of the companies issuing full bans.
Or more likely mods and CC will be sold for cash in the game store. (The creators will be paid in honorable mentions, as usual.) Of course, the mods must not affect the game's PEGI rating. As an online game, there can't be any woohoo, imagine the lawsuits.
@@MagnusItlandI don’t think you could make a sims game without woohoo. It’s not the most important thing, but woohooing in risqué locations has been featured since at least Sims 2
I've refused to give EA any more money, stopped playing, used my saved money to buy a beefy PC, and I am currently enjoying my time IMMENSELY in the sims 3 🥰
As easy at it is to blame EA for the state of the Sims 4 we can't ignore the role the playerbase had. People are far too forgiving when it comes to the Sims 4. How many times have people expressed disappointment with how broken or lackluster a pack released only to say they'll buy it anyway because "the modders will fix it" or "at a discount when EA gets it together and fixes their stuff" or even "I don't care about the problems with the pack it has X feature I really like." Guys, EA doesn't care how you feel about their game because they _know_ you'll throw money at them anyway. All they gotta do is put out a pretty pre-rendered trailer to get people hyped and you're hooked. Other gaming communities would've straight up stop giving the developers money for putting out low quality content like this. Just look at gaming disasters such as Redfall, Fallout 76, and No Man's Sky at launch. Those games got torn to shreds when people saw the state they were in. The difference is that at least No Man's Sky actually fixed their game and put out all their promised features and then some. The sims 4 on the other hand...👁👁
Totally, enabling gamers, that ask for more but also defend the game with all their breath are toxic and community member such as Simsies acting like playing the game is endless entertaining is strange and misleading if anything.
yup. i’ve been a loyal player for years and never bought into the hype. i only just got sims 4 a few months ago because it was free and that’s it. but i’m still paying for sims 3 expansion packs (they were $10 a few days ago!! all of them!!) because no way am i spending money on a worse game
simmers will bend backwards to justify giving ea money. and ea doesn't need to try and create a good game, because if they wait the controversy out, people will start buying again
don't forget the "I don't like it but i have to buy it for my collection" fans. The day journey to batuu came out and people bitched but bought it I knew this community loves to spend money if it means having the "complete set"
One thing I hate about Sims 4 is I have to keep constantly fighting my Sims where in Sims 3 my Sims do what I tell them and things go the way I want to.
@@stanloonaguys_Autonomy fully off usually isn’t fun. I want my sims to make basic choices on there own. Sims 3 sims were actually pretty good about this. And I believe you can control the level of autonomy in Sims 3, it isn’t just on/off.
Mmaybe, but if there was only SOMETHING interesting to do in Sims 3, I'd probably be more upset that Sims 4 isn't more like it. I'm just hoping Sims 5 will be more like Sims 4 than Sims 3.
@@CureSmileful I do the same but on tumblr! There are quite a few people dedicated to converting cc froms sims 2 or sims 4 and convert them for sims 3!
@@N30KID I follow Around The Sims, she has a lot of wonderful conversions! The downside of this is her stuff, as well as all the other CCs I have are starting to make the build/buy mode too cluttered, thank goodness Lazy Duchess created the catalog search mod. 😂😂😂
it's not even these points that sadden me, it's the fact that NOTHING happens organically in the game if you don't make it happen. Every sim is the same and act the same, with terrible autonomy. Which means no stories or cool events happen, no chaos (unless you consider poorly coded fire ovens chaos) arise... sims are just kinda there and struggling to get through the day
The Sims 2 just has so much personality, life, details, whatever, all the little things like going shopping, how the cars worked, the most indepth gene system I've seen in a game, how sims could get one sided crushes it just has so much love in it, while sims 4 is just this sterilized mess created solely as a sequel because they wanted more money with no care at all
perfect timing! i downloaded sims 4 like 3 days ago because i somehow wanted to play after seeing all this horse stuff (i don’t have horse ranch but after seeing sims 4 content so much lately i just wanted to play it) and i have never been that disappointed, i opened it and immadiately regretted it because it was that boring and after playing only sims 2 and 3 for the last months i noticed how little gameplay there is… so i’m going back to my lovely sims 3 lol
I just dont understand how toxix simmers on twitter still get excited about eps and when I say sims 3 so much better they literally attack to me with words saying animations are better in ts4? nonsense.
Youre absolutely right. I bloody hate when people pretend the Sims 4 is good. Its the biggest piece of 💩 i've ever played. I regret spending so much money on the DLC. And dont get me started on the updates. They broke my save files
I used to play sims 3 a lot before 4 came out. 4 came out when I was like 12 so I was super excited and immediately made the switch to 4. after a few years I realized I have been playing the sims less and less than I used to, thought I was just growing up and growing out of sims. couldn't put my finger on why the game wasn't enjoyable to me anymore. like I would just make a family, a house and then never play them. I completely forgot what it was like to play sims 3 then a few months ago decided to just see what sims 3 was like for fun again, just to reminisce those times. turns out I didn't "grow out" of the sims, the sims 4 is just so bad. even though I used to play sims 3 a lot, I completely forgot a lot of features and I was just so surprised finding out about them again. and now I can spend hours in game again. it's truly amazing how horrible they have managed to make the sims 4 and how they've been able to market it in a way that most simmers don't see it
The thing that sticks with me is that a few years ago they were committed to pack refreshes to fix a bunch of things fans complained about.. and to date.. they’ve done 1 refresh. Also, I remember when people were upset with Stuff Packs beginning in TS2, but now we have 4 types of DLCs and DLCs for DLCs. I’m really saddened by how EA is handling one of my favorite IPs.
The sunk cost fallacy was actually why it took me until My Wedding Stories to actually uninstall the Sims 4, even though I had already given up on the game by that point.
I bought cottage living thinking I would get new and fun gameplay, but I was incredibly disappointed. The aesthetics surrounding the pack seemed interesting to me, and I liked the idea of owning and running a farm. Cottage Living was incredibly lackluster to me and I regretted shilling out the money for it tbh
@@elixtirr2611I ran a very successful farm in Sims 3. They became millionaires after I found this rare coffee bean worth a lot of money and mass produced it. They owned multiple lots.
Reject the sims 4, return to the sims 2. While you’re at it: pirate the game. It’s very easy. You can get an installer made by a passionate TS2 community member that installs the ultimate collection for you and automatically applies all the patches it needs to run well on modern machines/monitors. Even installs clean noncorrupted versions of the hoods for you. All for the low cost of free and no money in greedy EAs pocket. TS2 community also is very passionate about addressing various bugs/quirks that the game has. There are hundreds of different fixes you can easily find and apply to address every issue you can think of basically. No waiting on EA. Just do it yourself.
Unfortunately I'm stuck with this game until I can purchase a new gaming laptop to play sims 2 and sims 3. However, I'm always baffled that players always try to excuse E.A. laziness by saying "their trying," yet the Caliente update took nearly a year to just change them in CAS. Mind you, I did my own Caliente refresh, with lore, and relationship updates, etc that took me the most under 2 hours. Then they tell the players that Katrina is obviously a clone, to justify not doing their research on the families as if we the players are stupid for not realizing Katrina a clone Dina and Nina made. Despite the fact that E.A. couldn't even be bothered to know the lore on their own game 😂😂😂.
From what I understand, the sims 4 and gallery had very restrictive rules where you couldn't use certain names. One of those was "Nighat" (because of the first few letters). Also I tried to make my friend "Jewel" years ago and it wouldn't let me
@@Rekowcskii feel like the gaming industry should have some like what the food industry have the FDA. Cuz if they did Sims would Not be this messed up and way less none-functional.
2020 was the year I gave up on Sims 4, ugh BATUU. So much of giving a benefit of the doubt since 2014. Now I sit back and laugh at the constant cycle of "hype, excitement, disappointed and angry then silence" in each DLC announcement.
for me the most annyoing thing is that there is always a load screen... switching between my households is such a pain. when two of my household hang out at the same lot I wish I could just switch between them to control... it's so annoying that I have to go to load screen all the time!!! that's literally my number one thing that I dislike the most
I watched a few LPs which were cute, but as a gal who owned horses, the animation for the horses is very cartoon-ish and childish. The sims 3 horses (and unicorns, ahem), move very realistic and regal, just like real horses. I'd love to see someone post a side by side comparison. Appreciate your opinions, very true.
I agree with everything in this video. My biggest problem with the sims 4 is that it just feels so soulless; I want my sims to feel distinct and have personalities that make them fun to actually play with. I’ve been playing the sims 3 for the past 2 years and I think the traits make all the difference, only having 3 traits per sim and the variety being so limited really kills the sims 4 for me and makes it feel so inferior to the sims 2 and 3 that it’s laughable. I honestly don’t think I’ll ever touch the game again and I have absolutely no interest in the dumpster fire that is most likely to be the sims 5
You are not alone! Sims 4 was a no go for me from the first. When I heard the game was going to launch without pools or toddlers that was a deal breaker for me. They've done nothing to make me change my mind, either.
I recently started a lepacy challenge on Sims 3 (you start with base game only and gradually add new packs in release order throughout the generations) with the goal of completing every single lifetime wish, and I was shocked to realize that after years of always playing with packs... sims 3 base game is fun!! I miss seasons, pets and generations, my most used packs, but you can have a really good time playing with no add-ons, and it actually makes me excited to add more stuff later and actually engage with each pack to the fullest (something I never really did before). This is unthinkable for Sims 4: its base game has no substance and each new pack is as disappointing as the last. Sims 3 remains unbeaten for me (but Sims 2 is also a blast).
Sims 3 is like a cheeseburger... and the expansion packs are like fries, coke, and a mcflurry. Sims 4 is like a hamburger bun ...and the expansions are the meat, cheese, lettuce, tomato, mayo and mustard haha
“what your experience with the sims 4 has been?” got a new pc just for the game in 2014 and was instantly disappointed “do you have any hope for sims 4?” no “did you stop playing altogether?” yes, a few months after trying to enjoy it. never bought any dlc for it and im proud of that i got sims 2 ultimate collection and have sims 3 with most expansions and they are soooo superior
The reason Sims 4 is so bare bones and has no real lore is because Sims 4 was supposed to be an online multiplayer game. When EA realised that players wouldn't accept that, they got cold feet and redesigned the game rather haphazardly.
After playing for a couple of years with just sims 3 basegame and University pack, I decided to try the sims 4 around the time the farms expansion came out. I bought a few DLC that I thought I would enjoy and I got quickly bored. When the wedding pack came out and we all realized it could only be played with fixing mods, I decided to go back to the sims 3. I'm not paying EA for DLC only modders make playable, and besides, I was bored to death... I'm back to the sims 3, bought all the expansions for around 50 euros, and I know I have years of fun ahead...
Yep, I had the Sims games in the past and I kinda fell away from them. Then when 4 came out I said, why not? So I went to Origin and downloaded it. I think it was within an hour I realized this was not a good game. Fortunately I still owned 3, and I downloaded that again. Now, mind you, I have a lot of complaints about Sims 3 (go to a club where your Sim says "where is everybody" and then go to a hotspot where no one is at either) but these are complaints about how the game could be even better, not about how the game is not good to begin with.
That’s like me with Sims 2, I have a couple small nitpicks like community time (which Mods fixed) but even if I didn’t have that mod, my unmodded Sims 2 has entertained me for litteral YEARS.
@@TheDawnofVanlife Are there any mods to do "story progession" so i dont have to go around aging people, and what are the essential mods, last time I tried to play 2 I could not get it to stop crashing
I officially went back to sims 3 when all my packs disappeared for the umpteenth time, I’ve started about 4 saves and lost everything due to the game not working or breaking with updates multiple times, plus the game is boring as a whole. I wish I could get back my money, glad I only buy when there’s a sale
I gave up on The Sims 4 back when they released the My First Pet stuff pack thing. It was crystal clear at that point what direction the game was going in. And indeed, it got worse with each pack. The Sims 4 is a soulless, boring cash-grabby game. Comparing it to the glory days of Sims 1-3, it breaks my heart. This isn’t my beloved Sims game anymore. I don’t have high hopes for Sims 5. Hopefully Paralives and Life By You carry the baton like Cities Skylines did with SimCity.
When they released Journey to Batuu, I literally uninstalled sims 4, because (as you say) it was CRYSTAL CLEAR the future was never going to be as good as the past. Nostalgia aside, the best sims game that will ever exist has already been released. Idk which one it is, but they're all better than 4, or 5 is going to be.
This just made me realize that I play the sims 4 almost everyday for HOURS but I never actually play the game, all I do is create a family and once they kids grow and I have nothing more to do I create a new game. I spend hours downloading cc to make the most realistic and pretty sims I can, and then decorating their house (because I suck at building), but then at the end I never actually play, I just keep making sims and decorating houses over and over again because I feel like I already did everything I could in the game (and still, I have like 7 dlc packs that I only got on discount because 39,99€ and 19,99€ for a dlc is just extremely expensive for a dlc that only adds a few things to the game). Today I decided that I wanted something new, and since I’ve seen so many people talking about how the old games were amazing and detailed, I went to CEX (a second handed store of electronic devices, games, etc) and bought The sims and The sims 2 (both were deluxe versions) and some of their expansion packs, all of this for 9,50€, cheaper than basically any pack of the sims 4. 😭😭😭 I still have to find a way to play it on my pc, since it doesn’t have a disk player, but I won’t give up. I am sure I’m going to love both games, and even though The sims 4 it’s not the best game, I still enjoy to play it. It might not be as interesting as the other sims games, but I still manage to do fun things in the game and having a good time playing it (even if I don’t spend that much time playing the actual game and just creating sims and decorating) 🫶
I've been on a cycle of continuously coming up with storylines, creating different sims and scenarios in The Sims 4, but quitting and not actually playing anything. I thought that was a me problem, turns out I just need to downgrade to a previous game.
It's so sad that people who have only played TS4 believe that it's the best game ever. It feels so wrong. In a perfect world, I wish EA made a game with TS2 gameplay, TS3 open world, story progression, and the colorwheel, and graphics like TS4. I am sick of TS4 being so mind controlling in such a bad way. If you compare an expansion from TS3 to a TS4 one, you can see who EA has really become. Barely any content and still tricking players. Then, the Sims team tries to guilt trip us and try to make us feel pity for them, but as a buyer's POV,. this shouldn't be the case. At the end of the day, we are buying a product and expect it to work. Imagine getting a brand new car and the dealer is like "Look at this brand new amazing car with so many feature! Oh... but ignore the fact that it is missing two wheels, it stalls a lot, and the paint job is half done"
For DLC, many of the Sims 4 packs can be in one pack. I remember playing the sims 3, and there was Late Night which came with apartments, fame, an acting career, and vampires, dance clubs and lounges (which had so much detail in comparison to sims 4, despite clubs and lounges being base game. The gameplay is just so shallow), and even the basic interactions such as slow dancing added so much depth to the sims 3. In Sims 4, to access all this you need city living, get famous, vampires, get together (if you want to add more gameplay for clubs), my wedding stories (to have the slow dancing interaction without mods, which is ridiculous that they’re charging so much considering the pack is broken and it’s even worst then dining out. At least with dining out, there’s a mod to fix it for PC/Mac players. But with “My Wedding Stories” the pack is just unplayable. If you add all these packs together, it will be $160. Which is so much money just so you can have the same or similar amount of gameplay. Not to mention the world is so much bigger in Sims 3, they include apartments, and then they have upper and richer celebrities on the other side of the map. Late night is what Get Famous wished it was. Apparently in the new expansion pack, they are adding the option to build your own apartments which should of been City living, as the entire point of city living was literally living in apartments.
It's frustrating. I WANT to like the game. I do. But I can't. It bores me very quickly and the gameplay is so shallow. I have way more fun playing the first 3 Sims games. What also frustrates me is how much money I spent on it since it came out (back when the basegame was full price around $60, before it was free every 5 seconds, and before DLC was always on sale). Say what you want about Sims 3's store system, but you have to admit that when you play Sims 3, you can tell the Sims team still had SOME love and care for the game and the players. And the store was optional add-ons; not mandatory or anything, but your game can feel complete without it...store items just spruce things up. 4's DLC packs feel mandatory to make the game even remotely fun, but that fails miserably. Nowadays the Sims team are of touch and shallow. Ugh.
It will be a live service game and fully online, it will run like an online MMO and they will operate it for more than a decade. It may be the last, but it will be like IMVU and other online role playing games especially that they want cross play (PC and Mobile) If that happens, I think the social interactions will regress more since their goal is to make it online like how Sims 4 was supposed to be.
oh yeah, definitely. i don't understand how so many people are excited about it or think it'll change for the better when ea's got negative incentive to make it better.
Update: EA has decided to not make a Sims 5 (at least anytime soon) because apparently, "people will be sad that their data will be lost in Sims 4". Pure rubbish.
I bought the sims 4 a few years after it came out, about 2016. Compared to the sims 3 base game, it was was so boring I couldn’t play more than 4 hours on it. I haven’t bothered since then.
yeah I recently switched back to playing the previous games, especially 3, since it has some legit mods as well. The Sims 4 really does seem designed to forever dangle the promise of a full and satisfying game, but NEVER deliver it, no matter how much money you spend. it's a scam.
FANTASTIC video! 👌🏾👌🏾 The Sims 4's first advantage for me was being able to be played on any computer easily, but that's not true anymore for a while now. I got the Sims 4 shortly after launch in a giveaway and I still managed to play 2 and 3 more. I uninstalled 4 a couple years ago. I still enjoy watching videos about it from people who like it (and don't like it), but that's the extent of my interactions with it. I don't even watch the trailers anymore. I'm so disappointed. The second advantage: the mods for 4 are amazingly cool. That kept me from uninstalling the game in the past -- but modders for the older games have been catching up. I can get all the CC and almost all the mods I could want without having to go through the weaker game. So it's sayonara. It felt like a breakup, but uninstalling it made more hard drive space to download more stuff for the older games. You win some, you lose some. 😝
100% if they combined packs like cottage living + cats & dogs + horse ranch + my first pet stuff as a single pack for only $20..... many people would be okay with sims 4
Sims 4 gameplay is boring. Safe, predicatble, repeatative. It's a simple do some chores game. Sims have no personalities, the game is overly safe - like can't even lose a job accidentally, because they kindly write it out which option will kick us out.... And they just make packs after packs, when instead they should just remaster sims 2 and 3 - those game at least were fun!
SIMS 4 is only enjoyable thanks to the modders in the community, it is not a memorable game though, previous sims games didn't need mods to make it enjoyable and memorable-
I deleted Sims 4, about 3 years ago and started playing Sims 3 instead. Both Sims 2 and 3 are far superior to 4 and as your hints kinda point towards. I think the Sims 4 seems like a soulless cash grab from EAs side, and nothing more.
The vibe just used to be different. It was a very specific tone and theme, and now it's just the same ol ESG theater kid BS that is in every facet of media now. It's just got this corny Pixar sheen to it.
I just recorded my first ever speed build in the sims 2 because i'm terrified to even touch the sims 4 after the horse update another thing i noticed after attempting to play sims 4 right after having played sims 2 and 3 for a while, is that the actual interactions menu popping up is SO SLOW OMG in sims 2 you click on things or get your sims to do things so quickly and smoothly it's ridiculous, in sims the actual speed at which the menu appears really stresses me out I'll admit it's a shame for me cause i do really enjoy the build buy mechanics in sims 4, the mods people have made, and the cas but until they stop patching up the game and it's over and the DLC releases are finished im not even gonna try, and i only say this cause im more of a builder/maker than player
what breaks my heart the most is that the game had potential. It's got great style, the CAS is gorgeous, the build mode is fluid and intuitive and the DLCs introduce features that at the first glance can bring additional charm to the game. The game threatens to become good - until you turn it on and try it out. It's not as much infuriating as disappointing - y'know, like an abusive lazy ex who promises to change but never does, haha.
I got the free Sims 4 base game and THAT'S IT. Way too much money was spent getting all the expansion packs for Sims 3. I refuse to put myself through that again.
@@Rekowcskiyeah, I'm still upset that the Late Night trailer tricked me into thinking I'd have a full band with a SINGER. Uhg! Lesson learned. I just kept getting the packs to complete the game and swore to myself I'd never ever do this again. ESPECIALLY, after they released Island Paradise and left it a completely unplayable mess to abandon everyone for the Sims 4. I felt hoodwinked.
The sims 4 is following a similar path. Usually it takes 3 to 5 packs to get the same content that the sims 3 gave us, and now all the new packs break the game 😞
@@Rekowcski yeah, when i saw how little there was in the base game and how i received no enjoyment from it like i did the sims 3 base game, i knew things weren't going to go well. So i stuck with what i had.
Every time i try play, if its no fun without mods or a crap ton of packs. If i play with loads of packs, it's glitchy af. Mods break every other week with the stupid updates. It's just unplayable. I enjoy the building, the CAS is good (ignoring the actual personality customization). It's just....its a money grab. That's it. It's so sad. Just go play ts3 or ts2.
After years of frustration, I straight up deleted the sims 4 from my computer and moved on to the sims 3 I'm done with that game and I used to try and use cautious language when criticizing it but you know what? The sims 4 is a shit game Am I a sims 4 hater? Yes Do I hate EA? YES
I'm not touching Sims 4 until the Gallery gives me notifications again. The main reason I play is to share my builds and sims. Getting a notification while I play that someone liked my stuff gives me a serotonin boost to keep going. If I have to go into my catalog to see that, the serotonin isn't there. On the older builds, I have no idea if anyone likes it if EA won't tell me. I've been playing TS2 and TS3 basically since Growing Together. Currently I'm working on making a Strangetown downtown so it has a consistent desert look. I might even make a desert shopping district. Sims 4 could never.
Sims 4's gameplay is shallow compared to TS2 and TS3. It lacks the humor and quirkiness of the previous installments. Also, the game is plague with bugs and glitches.
Still playing….and still complaining. I just don’t have another game I like, unfortunately. The one bright point for me, the gameplay being so shallow has made me into a builder. I also am a lot more creative with how I structure my worlds once I begin to play. Alas, I still do a lot of what my children used to do when they were little; set it all up painstakingly, then walk away. :(
I am one of those people who actually enjoy playing the sims 4, and i still have no argument to tell you that it is a good game. It's like a toxic relatioship
Got the horrible news today that Life by You is delaying early access release from September to March, 2024. Then I saw your video. Yay!!! Sims 4 bashing!!! I really needed this Rekowcski - thank you. ;)
Sims 4, I hate the game because I still make myself play it from time to time… I see a moderately fun let’s play and I’m like “okay, there is something nice going on here” but when I myself go to play it… I get bored after 2 or 3 1 hour sessions of this game… I hate that I spent so much into it because I thought maybe the next expansion was the missing link. I hate the community drama every time there is something for the game (I bet EA does it on purpose, to build clout, even if it’s bad publicity). I hate… so many things about it. I essentially returned to Sims 3 at this point, or just go play something else
my problem is that i absolutely love building and creating sims and in that aspect sims 4 absolutely rules 😩 but actual gameplay? it sucks. i just started playing ts2 again a week ago and its such a stark contrast. like i literally dont give a damn about how my sims or house looks bc i am so focused on gameplay and having fun. really puts it in perspective again. all the little details (the couch and water physics for example)
Avid Sims 3 player here, I can say that I've tried to play TS4 YEARS ago and could not. I maybe had it installed for a day or two before I deleted it entirely. I second-hand watch from Simmer on UA-cam who play TS4 but man, what a shitshow. All of it. I do wish that the build mode in Sims 3 was as high-tech as it is now but I make do and I have lots of fun with creating solutions with cheats. I'll play all the Sims, excluding the 4th, until the end of time. It's my creative outlet and has done so much good for me without any stupid kits. When will EA hear our voices, ENOUGH DAMN KITS!! Focus on the gameplay.
I left Sims for more than a year out of disappointment for TS4, and then started plying TS3 again. Had some issues with Korean version(which never occurred back then), and uninstalled in the hopes of installing English version. Now EA app won't let me download any EPs, even though I bought them. It seems that this has happened to many people and EA doesn't bother to fix it for months. Maybe I'm never playing the sims again, because they locked me out of the game I own.
I've been playing The Sims since I was 5. And I was 5 in 2001, so I got to play TS1, then 2 (here, in Russia, the base game and, I believe, University came out in English first, but starting with the next packs, the game got a Russian release, so we had to buy the og game + University again) and 3, I saw them come and go. Those games were full of content, and even to this day, I like to come back to all of them, even the very first game, which might not have aged as well as the other two, but it's still full of charm and heart. Many find it eerie, but I find it oddly comforting and welcoming. With this background, of course I was waiting for TS4. I wasn't too big on the way it looked, but I was interested because, hey, it's The Sims! And oh how disappointed I was. It was raw, boring, with not much to do. Sure, the CAS was great, but what's the point if I do not want to do anything with these characters? I like building houses in TS4, but yet again, what's the point if I don't want anyone to live there? What's the point of having these few good things if the main point of the game, which is life simulation, is boring and practically non-existent while potentially interesting gimmicks, cause that's what active careers and whatnot are, get old in about an hour? I only ever paid for the base game, which cost me nearly 3000 rubles in 2014, which was very expensive at the time, and never paid for a single pack. I pirate it every now and again to build a few houses and see what it has to offer, but I am not going to pay for a game that is this lazy and half-assed, not to mention so blatantly greedy. Edit: Forgot to add, but there is one thing in particular that shows just how empty TS4 is. And for me, it's cheat codes. Rejuvenation chamber for TS1 (CC), need cheats for TS2 and TS3, I use them so that I can explore areas, mechanics and features. It may not be as challenging, sure, but the point is, there is stiff to do. In TS4, however, there's nothing to do. And what is there does not leave a lasting impression and is repetitive.
most sim youtubers have too much money so when a new pack comes out they hype it so much as they know they are going to get it so they are just gonna treat it like a brand new base game update, but for everyone else it just gets them excited for something that they really shouldnt be.
With sims 2 we understand why some features are not there, basic ones like, the hour be the same when you enter or leave a community lot, sims 3 too, a simulation game in a open world before the boom of hardware power in 2015, but why sims 4 is so laggy and unfinished? Didn't make sense, why close the neighboor instead or just make open neighboors with loading between worlds? They know people will buy the game, with paralives or LBY people WILL BUY THIS, and even the mess that will be project rene, same team, same mistakes, same mess, and they know they don't need to make a good game anymore, everyone know the sims, even people that don't play, I quit being angry at this mess and now I'm just waiting for LBY early acess and Paralives launch, I'm done.
I had downloaded back the sims 3 few days ago before the horse shxt pack released. I noticed that there were way more things included in an expansion pack back in those days,and The sims 4 expansion packs are really shallow.
I grew up on the sims 4… I stopped playing and went to sims 3. I’m addicted to the sims 3 and I’ll keep it that way because at least the sims 3 is an actual game 😊
Once I tried TS4, I very quickly stopped playing and came back running to TS1 and TS2. The amount of DLC feels overwhelming yet lacking in depth. The word that describes it best to me is sanitized.
I love the Sims But i don’t know for How much longer. The game is very laggy and my Im getting quite upset about them freezing and not doing anything. Sometimes it can take up to 15-30 ’Sims minutes’ before they continue doing what they’re supposed to Do. I don’t know How much longer i can endure this, If the team don’t address all bugs and glitches..
As a kid I played the sims 2 and I LOVED it so much I spent entire afternoons playing it, I couldn't wait to get home and play it. Then I got the sims 4 and I was VERY excited to play it, and of course I did have sort of a honeymoon phase with it but the more I played it, I remember this exact moment of child me sitting in front of the monitor and thinking "I just don't feel the same good feeling playing this as when I played the sims 2" and I ended up getting bored of the sims 4.
When I launch the Sims 4 the things I find missing are all the freebies they have offered that I tried to download (Jungle Adventure, and various kits and packs) as well as the Dogs and Cats expansion I bought years ago and that had been working up until recently. EA App says they're installed but the game says they are still downloading. Online help hasn't fixed the problems. What I like to do is take Sims 3 and recreate the promo pictures of Sims 4 to the best of my ability or most recently, used a rabbithole rug to create a walk-in horse arena (rodeo style) to play in Sims 3.
I never played Sims 4, it has pretty objects and they did a good job at build mode but as I have seen many youtubers focus on building rather than playing, the look of the sims is too cartoony for my taste, even the horses look like a cartoon, The Sims 3 horses looked like an actual horse. I prefer Sims 3 which is my fav from all the Sims games, I know it has its problems but open world from the base game it's something a pretty object or a well done build mode can't beat, I play it along with Sims 2 and even Sims 1 till this very day and even though Sims 4 is free to download I am not interested in playing it, I rather have its pretty objects converted for TS3 or TS2 and that's about it.
I agree with all these points about the game, but I have another issue with EA itself that I'm surprised people aren't as angry about as I would have expected. After waiting 1.5 years, I have finally been able to buy a new gaming laptop and all I wanted to do was run the Sims 3 smoothly - but it turns out that there is a big issue with newer processors. The game only opens once and then simply never runs again for me, despite trying all the fixes multiple times. This has been an issue since at least Dec 2021 and EA has done nothing about it - they are still selling the sims 3 and it is often completely unplayable! I just don't understand why this isn't a bigger issue!
The biggest issue in my opinion with the Sims four franchise is the lack of substance. I think the graphics look great, build by is great. Even the emotions system is great, but there’s still a real lack of substance that we were exposed to in the Sims two and in the Sims three.
I haven’t BOUGHT a sims 4 pack since like the 2nd expansion I think? I wish others would follow suit and start telling EA how they feel with their pockets because the CEO doesn’t care what you say if you’re still buying the damn product. As long as the CEO’s pockets are getting filled it doesn’t matter what the devs want and it doesn’t matter what you want. But sims players just keep buying everything that comes out so the franchise is gonna be run into the ground just like fallout. I’m sure the sims 5 will be like fallout 76 and piss everyone off but I really really hope they get it together. Maybe the competitors coming out will motivate them to do more but I doubt it
For me, the Sims 4 was a shitshow in a good way, comedy gold if you're watching someone else play. So many UA-camrs just sit back & let the Sims do their chaos while stringing together a narration of the madness unfolding. The pricey DLC packs with 8 items each is unforgivable though.
The thing i hate about The Sims 4 is that you have to create a family first before you can edit the town so when u get to edit town then save and exit the game. So when i load the game back up you have to go back to the family you created before you can edit the town/world again. This was not in other sims games as you can edit the town without having to make a family first and another thing is the worlds/towns look to cartoony nothing like the other sims worlds where they looked realistic
''when you launch the sims 4, do you ever feel like there's something missing?''
yes, the actual game
I spent the first week finding what is missing in the Sims 4 base game. I'm not kidding.
I always miss "sul sul" like in Sims 2 😞
Sims 4 feels like lifeless diorama....
@@meiru2453 That's not been my experience at all. I don't get why people keep saying that. For me, TS4 sims interact with each other so much more naturally than in TS3 most of the time. I've seen some crazy drama unfold in TS4 that's like watching a movie, I never saw much of that in TS3.
You know a game is complete dog dookie when you actually need mods to play the game ie “i wish the $60 expansion pack could alow my sims to do the thing I bought the pack for welp I’ll just download 30 mods so it’s fun “
the most tragic thing... is that everyone is pretending the Sims 4 is a great and fun game, the sims community is really brainwashed. I'm so shook ngl.
Is it possible that maybe people have different interests and different standards for what a "fun game" is? Like I'm certainly not the most avid Sims player and I agree TS3 was better than TS4, but I enjoy the game for what it is. I don't have a million DLC packs (I think I have...3? One of which I got free?) and again I'm not saying that it's the best game ever, but I absolutely disagree with saying it's the WORST game.
@@azuradawn5683no, you’re just delusional 😭. idk why you sims 4 players try to defend a million dollar company that is scamming you.. very weird.
The gaming version of Stockholm syndrome.
it's the sunk cost fallacy 🤪
@@kyle-bi1uu why would she be delusional just beacuse she likes play the game, thats not ok to say, we all like different games and for many playing games maby is a time when we can escape our own life and just enjoy playing a game. Even if it has its faults etc. Most of us know sims4 has faults and Ea is not best company. But we all need to accept that some ppl like and some ppl dont likr. Name calling is not ok, both ways
The game is way more laggy than sims 3 at this point. Looking forward to Life By You and Paralives.
It's sad when the sims 3 is running better :(
exactly! my sims 3 runs absolutely smooth and lag free while sims 4 is a disaster, laggin in buy mode, live mode, at least 50% of the time
@@aarachnophxbia yes!! So many people have reported to EA. But they keep ignoring it. This game that is suppose to be “lag free” is super laggy compared to the last three games.
Really?? I don't have problems with sims 4 but it becomes laggy if I add too many broken mods lol
and isn't it funny, that Maxis excuse for making the Sims 4 a closed world and not having half of the features of the previous games was because they wanted everyone to be able to play the game even on low end computers? That excuse was such a cop out for their laziness. The more packs Maxis puts out, the laggier the game gets.
68 DLCS 😭 And It’s Still Trash
And according to EA, all that dlc is worth over 1200 DOLLARS!
If you think this is bad, wait until The Sims 5 launches as a cross platform online focused free-to-play mobile game riddled with microtransactions, and an in game currency to be exchanged for real world money. When that happens, not even the mods will save you since games that deal directly in real money typically frown upon any kind of modification/hack, to the point of the companies issuing full bans.
I would love to see the result of EA banning mods and CC from SIms 5, grab your popcorn lol
Or more likely mods and CC will be sold for cash in the game store. (The creators will be paid in honorable mentions, as usual.) Of course, the mods must not affect the game's PEGI rating. As an online game, there can't be any woohoo, imagine the lawsuits.
@@MagnusItlandI don’t think you could make a sims game without woohoo. It’s not the most important thing, but woohooing in risqué locations has been featured since at least Sims 2
We get it. Sims 4 is NOT Sims 3. Get over it already.
@@kiillabytez damn, he cant have an opinion about something trivial? Tough crowd😂😂😂
I've refused to give EA any more money, stopped playing, used my saved money to buy a beefy PC, and I am currently enjoying my time IMMENSELY in the sims 3 🥰
I stopped buying sims 4 a year or two ago and have saved a fortune
Well, kudos to you. Personally, I can't stand Sims 3 and can't see how anyone would downgrade their gaming experience like that. To each their own.
@@Rekowcski You save a lot by not spending money. Duh.BTW, I hate Sims 3.
@@kiillabytezWell, you can continue getting scammed playing the atrocious Sims 4. It's a game designed for dumb people
@@kiillabytezI mean, graphic aside, their gameplay is still better than sims 4.
As easy at it is to blame EA for the state of the Sims 4 we can't ignore the role the playerbase had.
People are far too forgiving when it comes to the Sims 4. How many times have people expressed disappointment with how broken or lackluster a pack released only to say they'll buy it anyway because "the modders will fix it" or "at a discount when EA gets it together and fixes their stuff" or even "I don't care about the problems with the pack it has X feature I really like."
Guys, EA doesn't care how you feel about their game because they _know_ you'll throw money at them anyway. All they gotta do is put out a pretty pre-rendered trailer to get people hyped and you're hooked.
Other gaming communities would've straight up stop giving the developers money for putting out low quality content like this. Just look at gaming disasters such as Redfall, Fallout 76, and No Man's Sky at launch. Those games got torn to shreds when people saw the state they were in.
The difference is that at least No Man's Sky actually fixed their game and put out all their promised features and then some.
The sims 4 on the other hand...👁👁
Totally, enabling gamers, that ask for more but also defend the game with all their breath are toxic and community member such as Simsies acting like playing the game is endless entertaining is strange and misleading if anything.
@@Cheesecake_666 Exactly. You get what you pay for and if you pay EA for crap content, guess what you're going to get? Crap content.
yup. i’ve been a loyal player for years and never bought into the hype. i only just got sims 4 a few months ago because it was free and that’s it. but i’m still paying for sims 3 expansion packs (they were $10 a few days ago!! all of them!!) because no way am i spending money on a worse game
simmers will bend backwards to justify giving ea money. and ea doesn't need to try and create a good game, because if they wait the controversy out, people will start buying again
don't forget the "I don't like it but i have to buy it for my collection" fans. The day journey to batuu came out and people bitched but bought it I knew this community loves to spend money if it means having the "complete set"
One thing I hate about Sims 4 is I have to keep constantly fighting my Sims where in Sims 3 my Sims do what I tell them and things go the way I want to.
just turn autonomy off
@@stanloonaguys_Autonomy fully off usually isn’t fun. I want my sims to make basic choices on there own. Sims 3 sims were actually pretty good about this. And I believe you can control the level of autonomy in Sims 3, it isn’t just on/off.
Mmaybe, but if there was only SOMETHING interesting to do in Sims 3, I'd probably be more upset that Sims 4 isn't more like it.
I'm just hoping Sims 5 will be more like Sims 4 than Sims 3.
@@kiillabytez you clearly didn't play sims 3 if you think there's nothing to do there
@@meiru2453 Just looked at more of his replied and he's just ragebaiting, don't pay attention to him
I have no regrets dumping Sims 4 years ago. I'm only keeping up with the game to see what kind of CC the players will convert to The Sims 2
haha I am in similar situation, I check and save sims 4 cc on pinterest to convert it to 3 one day
@@CureSmileful I do the same but on tumblr! There are quite a few people dedicated to converting cc froms sims 2 or sims 4 and convert them for sims 3!
@@N30KID I follow Around The Sims, she has a lot of wonderful conversions! The downside of this is her stuff, as well as all the other CCs I have are starting to make the build/buy mode too cluttered, thank goodness Lazy Duchess created the catalog search mod. 😂😂😂
it's not even these points that sadden me, it's the fact that NOTHING happens organically in the game if you don't make it happen. Every sim is the same and act the same, with terrible autonomy. Which means no stories or cool events happen, no chaos (unless you consider poorly coded fire ovens chaos) arise... sims are just kinda there and struggling to get through the day
The Sims 2 just has so much personality, life, details, whatever, all the little things like going shopping, how the cars worked, the most indepth gene system I've seen in a game, how sims could get one sided crushes
it just has so much love in it, while sims 4 is just this sterilized mess created solely as a sequel because they wanted more money with no care at all
Even after getting all the dlcs for free I could not play this for more than ten minutes
my exact situation, didn't touch it for two years now but I frequently launch sims 3
@@CureSmileful I don't even bother to re-download it when I got my new gaming PC. 🤣🤣🤣Better save that memory space for new games and mods.
Lol I removed the Sims 4 to free up more space for my Sims 3 save files
You could play a challenge in Sims4 and be done in 3 hours. Then what do you do?
Challenges can take DAYS on the older games, if not a week or more.
Liar.
perfect timing! i downloaded sims 4 like 3 days ago because i somehow wanted to play after seeing all this horse stuff (i don’t have horse ranch but after seeing sims 4 content so much lately i just wanted to play it) and i have never been that disappointed, i opened it and immadiately regretted it because it was that boring and after playing only sims 2 and 3 for the last months i noticed how little gameplay there is… so i’m going back to my lovely sims 3 lol
I had a similar recent experience. I didn't even bother to open the sims 4 for any game play footage BC it was unbearable 😭
Sims 3 por siempre!!!!!
the sims 4 is a genuine chore to play. so much of the gameplay is just imagining a better game
"Will you gladly spend an entire day creating a family or build only to never actually do any gameplay?"
So it's not just me?
I just dont understand how toxix simmers on twitter still get excited about eps and when I say sims 3 so much better they literally attack to me with words saying animations are better in ts4? nonsense.
Hahaha this video is going to get their motor mouths running XD
By animations do they mean the same swiping animation that gets so recycled to the point it puts the eco living ep to shame?
There are countless animation comparison videos and S4 loses every single time; they’re just blinded by their love for the game
Youre absolutely right. I bloody hate when people pretend the Sims 4 is good. Its the biggest piece of 💩 i've ever played. I regret spending so much money on the DLC. And dont get me started on the updates. They broke my save files
I used to play sims 3 a lot before 4 came out. 4 came out when I was like 12 so I was super excited and immediately made the switch to 4. after a few years I realized I have been playing the sims less and less than I used to, thought I was just growing up and growing out of sims. couldn't put my finger on why the game wasn't enjoyable to me anymore. like I would just make a family, a house and then never play them. I completely forgot what it was like to play sims 3 then a few months ago decided to just see what sims 3 was like for fun again, just to reminisce those times. turns out I didn't "grow out" of the sims, the sims 4 is just so bad. even though I used to play sims 3 a lot, I completely forgot a lot of features and I was just so surprised finding out about them again. and now I can spend hours in game again. it's truly amazing how horrible they have managed to make the sims 4 and how they've been able to market it in a way that most simmers don't see it
The thing that sticks with me is that a few years ago they were committed to pack refreshes to fix a bunch of things fans complained about.. and to date.. they’ve done 1 refresh. Also, I remember when people were upset with Stuff Packs beginning in TS2, but now we have 4 types of DLCs and DLCs for DLCs. I’m really saddened by how EA is handling one of my favorite IPs.
i always say this: mods in the sims 4 are used to make the game enjoyable, mods in the sims 3 are used to make the game smoother
The sunk cost fallacy was actually why it took me until My Wedding Stories to actually uninstall the Sims 4, even though I had already given up on the game by that point.
The sims 4 is like an MLM 😭
I stopped playing Sims 4 after Cottage Living. It just wasn't what I hoped and I went back to Sims 3. Great vid!
I quit when star wars entered the franchise
I bought cottage living thinking I would get new and fun gameplay, but I was incredibly disappointed. The aesthetics surrounding the pack seemed interesting to me, and I liked the idea of owning and running a farm. Cottage Living was incredibly lackluster to me and I regretted shilling out the money for it tbh
@@elixtirr2611I ran a very successful farm in Sims 3. They became millionaires after I found this rare coffee bean worth a lot of money and mass produced it. They owned multiple lots.
i spend a lot of time pretending my sims aren't playing musical chairs when they're interacting with each other. the AI is just bonkers.
Reject the sims 4, return to the sims 2. While you’re at it: pirate the game. It’s very easy. You can get an installer made by a passionate TS2 community member that installs the ultimate collection for you and automatically applies all the patches it needs to run well on modern machines/monitors. Even installs clean noncorrupted versions of the hoods for you. All for the low cost of free and no money in greedy EAs pocket.
TS2 community also is very passionate about addressing various bugs/quirks that the game has. There are hundreds of different fixes you can easily find and apply to address every issue you can think of basically. No waiting on EA. Just do it yourself.
Unfortunately I'm stuck with this game until I can purchase a new gaming laptop to play sims 2 and sims 3. However, I'm always baffled that players always try to excuse E.A. laziness by saying "their trying," yet the Caliente update took nearly a year to just change them in CAS. Mind you, I did my own Caliente refresh, with lore, and relationship updates, etc that took me the most under 2 hours. Then they tell the players that Katrina is obviously a clone, to justify not doing their research on the families as if we the players are stupid for not realizing Katrina a clone Dina and Nina made. Despite the fact that E.A. couldn't even be bothered to know the lore on their own game 😂😂😂.
From what I understand, the sims 4 and gallery had very restrictive rules where you couldn't use certain names. One of those was "Nighat" (because of the first few letters). Also I tried to make my friend "Jewel" years ago and it wouldn't let me
@@Rekowcskii feel like the gaming industry should have some like what the food industry have the FDA. Cuz if they did Sims would
Not be this messed up and way less none-functional.
2020 was the year I gave up on Sims 4, ugh BATUU. So much of giving a benefit of the doubt since 2014.
Now I sit back and laugh at the constant cycle of "hype, excitement, disappointed and angry then silence" in each DLC announcement.
for me the most annyoing thing is that there is always a load screen... switching between my households is such a pain. when two of my household hang out at the same lot I wish I could just switch between them to control... it's so annoying that I have to go to load screen all the time!!! that's literally my number one thing that I dislike the most
I watched a few LPs which were cute, but as a gal who owned horses, the animation for the horses is very cartoon-ish and childish. The sims 3 horses (and unicorns, ahem), move very realistic and regal, just like real horses. I'd love to see someone post a side by side comparison. Appreciate your opinions, very true.
Unfortunately another simmer will have to do that as I chose groceries instead of Horse Ranch this month :p
@@Rekowcski very smart choice...your food won't glitch out! 😂
youtuber ‘tintaverse’ made a comparison video!
I agree with everything in this video. My biggest problem with the sims 4 is that it just feels so soulless; I want my sims to feel distinct and have personalities that make them fun to actually play with. I’ve been playing the sims 3 for the past 2 years and I think the traits make all the difference, only having 3 traits per sim and the variety being so limited really kills the sims 4 for me and makes it feel so inferior to the sims 2 and 3 that it’s laughable. I honestly don’t think I’ll ever touch the game again and I have absolutely no interest in the dumpster fire that is most likely to be the sims 5
I used to think I was the only one that thought Sims 4 was bad.
You are not alone! Sims 4 was a no go for me from the first. When I heard the game was going to launch without pools or toddlers that was a deal breaker for me. They've done nothing to make me change my mind, either.
I recently started a lepacy challenge on Sims 3 (you start with base game only and gradually add new packs in release order throughout the generations) with the goal of completing every single lifetime wish, and I was shocked to realize that after years of always playing with packs... sims 3 base game is fun!! I miss seasons, pets and generations, my most used packs, but you can have a really good time playing with no add-ons, and it actually makes me excited to add more stuff later and actually engage with each pack to the fullest (something I never really did before). This is unthinkable for Sims 4: its base game has no substance and each new pack is as disappointing as the last. Sims 3 remains unbeaten for me (but Sims 2 is also a blast).
Sims 3 is like a cheeseburger... and the expansion packs are like fries, coke, and a mcflurry.
Sims 4 is like a hamburger bun ...and the expansions are the meat, cheese, lettuce, tomato, mayo and mustard haha
Just stop and Think . This is the only sims ( 4) game that's been give away for free permanently
I fixed an old laptop & bought Sims 1-3. Never went back to Sims4.
I'm an older gamer - I play games for the game play.
“what your experience with the sims 4 has been?” got a new pc just for the game in 2014 and was instantly disappointed
“do you have any hope for sims 4?” no
“did you stop playing altogether?” yes, a few months after trying to enjoy it. never bought any dlc for it and im proud of that
i got sims 2 ultimate collection and have sims 3 with most expansions and they are soooo superior
The reason Sims 4 is so bare bones and has no real lore is because Sims 4 was supposed to be an online multiplayer game. When EA realised that players wouldn't accept that, they got cold feet and redesigned the game rather haphazardly.
After playing for a couple of years with just sims 3 basegame and University pack, I decided to try the sims 4 around the time the farms expansion came out. I bought a few DLC that I thought I would enjoy and I got quickly bored. When the wedding pack came out and we all realized it could only be played with fixing mods, I decided to go back to the sims 3. I'm not paying EA for DLC only modders make playable, and besides, I was bored to death... I'm back to the sims 3, bought all the expansions for around 50 euros, and I know I have years of fun ahead...
Yep, I had the Sims games in the past and I kinda fell away from them. Then when 4 came out I said, why not? So I went to Origin and downloaded it. I think it was within an hour I realized this was not a good game. Fortunately I still owned 3, and I downloaded that again. Now, mind you, I have a lot of complaints about Sims 3 (go to a club where your Sim says "where is everybody" and then go to a hotspot where no one is at either) but these are complaints about how the game could be even better, not about how the game is not good to begin with.
That’s like me with Sims 2, I have a couple small nitpicks like community time (which Mods fixed) but even if I didn’t have that mod, my unmodded Sims 2 has entertained me for litteral YEARS.
@@TheDawnofVanlife Are there any mods to do "story progession" so i dont have to go around aging people, and what are the essential mods, last time I tried to play 2 I could not get it to stop crashing
I officially went back to sims 3 when all my packs disappeared for the umpteenth time, I’ve started about 4 saves and lost everything due to the game not working or breaking with updates multiple times, plus the game is boring as a whole. I wish I could get back my money, glad I only buy when there’s a sale
This needed to be 10x longer. I know you got more in you!
the script had 10 reasons, I just thought it worked better as 2 videos :p
I gave up on The Sims 4 back when they released the My First Pet stuff pack thing. It was crystal clear at that point what direction the game was going in. And indeed, it got worse with each pack. The Sims 4 is a soulless, boring cash-grabby game. Comparing it to the glory days of Sims 1-3, it breaks my heart. This isn’t my beloved Sims game anymore.
I don’t have high hopes for Sims 5. Hopefully Paralives and Life By You carry the baton like Cities Skylines did with SimCity.
When they released Journey to Batuu, I literally uninstalled sims 4, because (as you say) it was CRYSTAL CLEAR the future was never going to be as good as the past. Nostalgia aside, the best sims game that will ever exist has already been released. Idk which one it is, but they're all better than 4, or 5 is going to be.
This just made me realize that I play the sims 4 almost everyday for HOURS but I never actually play the game, all I do is create a family and once they kids grow and I have nothing more to do I create a new game. I spend hours downloading cc to make the most realistic and pretty sims I can, and then decorating their house (because I suck at building), but then at the end I never actually play, I just keep making sims and decorating houses over and over again because I feel like I already did everything I could in the game (and still, I have like 7 dlc packs that I only got on discount because 39,99€ and 19,99€ for a dlc is just extremely expensive for a dlc that only adds a few things to the game). Today I decided that I wanted something new, and since I’ve seen so many people talking about how the old games were amazing and detailed, I went to CEX (a second handed store of electronic devices, games, etc) and bought The sims and The sims 2 (both were deluxe versions) and some of their expansion packs, all of this for 9,50€, cheaper than basically any pack of the sims 4. 😭😭😭 I still have to find a way to play it on my pc, since it doesn’t have a disk player, but I won’t give up. I am sure I’m going to love both games, and even though The sims 4 it’s not the best game, I still enjoy to play it. It might not be as interesting as the other sims games, but I still manage to do fun things in the game and having a good time playing it (even if I don’t spend that much time playing the actual game and just creating sims and decorating) 🫶
I've been on a cycle of continuously coming up with storylines, creating different sims and scenarios in The Sims 4, but quitting and not actually playing anything. I thought that was a me problem, turns out I just need to downgrade to a previous game.
Depending on how you like to play, the sims 2 or 3 will be a gameplay upgrade from your sims 4 experience.
It's so sad that people who have only played TS4 believe that it's the best game ever. It feels so wrong. In a perfect world, I wish EA made a game with TS2 gameplay, TS3 open world, story progression, and the colorwheel, and graphics like TS4. I am sick of TS4 being so mind controlling in such a bad way. If you compare an expansion from TS3 to a TS4 one, you can see who EA has really become. Barely any content and still tricking players. Then, the Sims team tries to guilt trip us and try to make us feel pity for them, but as a buyer's POV,. this shouldn't be the case. At the end of the day, we are buying a product and expect it to work. Imagine getting a brand new car and the dealer is like "Look at this brand new amazing car with so many feature! Oh... but ignore the fact that it is missing two wheels, it stalls a lot, and the paint job is half done"
During quarantine I played sims 4 hours upon end… but now I’m over the constant broken updates and needing to download load of mods to enjoy
For DLC, many of the Sims 4 packs can be in one pack. I remember playing the sims 3, and there was Late Night which came with apartments, fame, an acting career, and vampires, dance clubs and lounges (which had so much detail in comparison to sims 4, despite clubs and lounges being base game. The gameplay is just so shallow), and even the basic interactions such as slow dancing added so much depth to the sims 3.
In Sims 4, to access all this you need city living, get famous, vampires, get together (if you want to add more gameplay for clubs), my wedding stories (to have the slow dancing interaction without mods, which is ridiculous that they’re charging so much considering the pack is broken and it’s even worst then dining out. At least with dining out, there’s a mod to fix it for PC/Mac players. But with “My Wedding Stories” the pack is just unplayable.
If you add all these packs together, it will be $160. Which is so much money just so you can have the same or similar amount of gameplay. Not to mention the world is so much bigger in Sims 3, they include apartments, and then they have upper and richer celebrities on the other side of the map. Late night is what Get Famous wished it was. Apparently in the new expansion pack, they are adding the option to build your own apartments which should of been City living, as the entire point of city living was literally living in apartments.
It's frustrating. I WANT to like the game. I do. But I can't. It bores me very quickly and the gameplay is so shallow. I have way more fun playing the first 3 Sims games. What also frustrates me is how much money I spent on it since it came out (back when the basegame was full price around $60, before it was free every 5 seconds, and before DLC was always on sale).
Say what you want about Sims 3's store system, but you have to admit that when you play Sims 3, you can tell the Sims team still had SOME love and care for the game and the players. And the store was optional add-ons; not mandatory or anything, but your game can feel complete without it...store items just spruce things up. 4's DLC packs feel mandatory to make the game even remotely fun, but that fails miserably. Nowadays the Sims team are of touch and shallow. Ugh.
I got a feeling that The Sims 5 will be the last nail in the coffin for the series… I hope I’m wrong but the future does not look good for the sims
It will be a live service game and fully online, it will run like an online MMO and they will operate it for more than a decade. It may be the last, but it will be like IMVU and other online role playing games especially that they want cross play (PC and Mobile) If that happens, I think the social interactions will regress more since their goal is to make it online like how Sims 4 was supposed to be.
oh yeah, definitely. i don't understand how so many people are excited about it or think it'll change for the better when ea's got negative incentive to make it better.
Update: EA has decided to not make a Sims 5 (at least anytime soon) because apparently, "people will be sad that their data will be lost in Sims 4". Pure rubbish.
I bought the sims 4 a few years after it came out, about 2016.
Compared to the sims 3 base game, it was was so boring I couldn’t play more than 4 hours on it. I haven’t bothered since then.
Glad you got out before anyone got hurt
You know their community is braindead when they excited for dusting dlc. Maybe the next dlc will be iron your clothes 🤣
I liked the laundry pack but it's only because I was desperate for a sims 3 feature 😭
Bro 😭
modders' backs breaking from carrying the sims 4 for the last 9 years
Agreed. Without them, I would have dropped this game ages ago.
yeah I recently switched back to playing the previous games, especially 3, since it has some legit mods as well.
The Sims 4 really does seem designed to forever dangle the promise of a full and satisfying game, but NEVER deliver it, no matter how much money you spend. it's a scam.
FANTASTIC video! 👌🏾👌🏾
The Sims 4's first advantage for me was being able to be played on any computer easily, but that's not true anymore for a while now. I got the Sims 4 shortly after launch in a giveaway and I still managed to play 2 and 3 more. I uninstalled 4 a couple years ago. I still enjoy watching videos about it from people who like it (and don't like it), but that's the extent of my interactions with it. I don't even watch the trailers anymore. I'm so disappointed.
The second advantage: the mods for 4 are amazingly cool. That kept me from uninstalling the game in the past -- but modders for the older games have been catching up. I can get all the CC and almost all the mods I could want without having to go through the weaker game. So it's sayonara. It felt like a breakup, but uninstalling it made more hard drive space to download more stuff for the older games. You win some, you lose some. 😝
The sims 4 mod creators unfortunately are stuck doing EAs job, making the game fun and engaging
100% if they combined packs like cottage living + cats & dogs + horse ranch + my first pet stuff as a single pack for only $20..... many people would be okay with sims 4
My favorite hobby is watching you roast the shit out of ts4
My favourite part is when the girlies get upset that their echo chamber has been shattered 😭
Sims 4 gameplay is boring. Safe, predicatble, repeatative. It's a simple do some chores game. Sims have no personalities, the game is overly safe - like can't even lose a job accidentally, because they kindly write it out which option will kick us out.... And they just make packs after packs, when instead they should just remaster sims 2 and 3 - those game at least were fun!
SIMS 4 is only enjoyable thanks to the modders in the community, it is not a memorable game though, previous sims games didn't need mods to make it enjoyable and memorable-
I deleted Sims 4, about 3 years ago and started playing Sims 3 instead. Both Sims 2 and 3 are far superior to 4 and as your hints kinda point towards. I think the Sims 4 seems like a soulless cash grab from EAs side, and nothing more.
@@danishdude2191 i quit sims 4 when they released batuu and I finally saw the light ✨
The vibe just used to be different. It was a very specific tone and theme, and now it's just the same ol ESG theater kid BS that is in every facet of media now. It's just got this corny Pixar sheen to it.
I just recorded my first ever speed build in the sims 2 because i'm terrified to even touch the sims 4 after the horse update
another thing i noticed after attempting to play sims 4 right after having played sims 2 and 3 for a while, is that the actual interactions menu popping up is SO SLOW OMG in sims 2 you click on things or get your sims to do things so quickly and smoothly it's ridiculous, in sims the actual speed at which the menu appears really stresses me out
I'll admit it's a shame for me cause i do really enjoy the build buy mechanics in sims 4, the mods people have made, and the cas but until they stop patching up the game and it's over and the DLC releases are finished im not even gonna try, and i only say this cause im more of a builder/maker than player
Imagine they tried to update sims 2 or 3 I would play offline forever lol
They should have just kept on adding onto sims 3.
what breaks my heart the most is that the game had potential. It's got great style, the CAS is gorgeous, the build mode is fluid and intuitive and the DLCs introduce features that at the first glance can bring additional charm to the game. The game threatens to become good - until you turn it on and try it out. It's not as much infuriating as disappointing - y'know, like an abusive lazy ex who promises to change but never does, haha.
How about you make video like "playing the sims 4, when i get bored the video ends" the video would be 0,01 second in length
The sims 4 was the first sims game I played. I thought it was good. Then I played the sims 3
I got the free Sims 4 base game and THAT'S IT.
Way too much money was spent getting all the expansion packs for Sims 3. I refuse to put myself through that again.
If you were disappointed with the sims 3 expansions then the sims 4 would make you cry 😭
@@Rekowcskiyeah, I'm still upset that the Late Night trailer tricked me into thinking I'd have a full band with a SINGER. Uhg! Lesson learned. I just kept getting the packs to complete the game and swore to myself I'd never ever do this again. ESPECIALLY, after they released Island Paradise and left it a completely unplayable mess to abandon everyone for the Sims 4. I felt hoodwinked.
The sims 4 is following a similar path. Usually it takes 3 to 5 packs to get the same content that the sims 3 gave us, and now all the new packs break the game 😞
@@Rekowcski yeah, when i saw how little there was in the base game and how i received no enjoyment from it like i did the sims 3 base game, i knew things weren't going to go well. So i stuck with what i had.
The Sims 3 has a smooth patch mods and now I never return to The Sims 4 again.
Same haha
All they did was generate some random sim, slapped red hair on her and called her Dina and that was it.
Ive never heard this theory before, but I absolutely agree and think that makes the most sense 😂 😭
Every time i try play, if its no fun without mods or a crap ton of packs.
If i play with loads of packs, it's glitchy af.
Mods break every other week with the stupid updates.
It's just unplayable. I enjoy the building, the CAS is good (ignoring the actual personality customization).
It's just....its a money grab. That's it. It's so sad. Just go play ts3 or ts2.
After years of frustration, I straight up deleted the sims 4 from my computer and moved on to the sims 3
I'm done with that game and I used to try and use cautious language when criticizing it but you know what? The sims 4 is a shit game
Am I a sims 4 hater? Yes
Do I hate EA? YES
I'm not touching Sims 4 until the Gallery gives me notifications again. The main reason I play is to share my builds and sims. Getting a notification while I play that someone liked my stuff gives me a serotonin boost to keep going. If I have to go into my catalog to see that, the serotonin isn't there. On the older builds, I have no idea if anyone likes it if EA won't tell me.
I've been playing TS2 and TS3 basically since Growing Together. Currently I'm working on making a Strangetown downtown so it has a consistent desert look. I might even make a desert shopping district. Sims 4 could never.
ooo, that strangetown downtown sounds cool. i'd kill to have that in my ts2, will you be sharing it anywhere?
Sims 4's gameplay is shallow compared to TS2 and TS3. It lacks the humor and quirkiness of the previous installments. Also, the game is plague with bugs and glitches.
you know a game is bad, when playing it only becomes fun if you use mods/fan content.
Still playing….and still complaining. I just don’t have another game I like, unfortunately.
The one bright point for me, the gameplay being so shallow has made me into a builder. I also am a lot more creative with how I structure my worlds once I begin to play.
Alas, I still do a lot of what my children used to do when they were little; set it all up painstakingly, then walk away.
:(
I am one of those people who actually enjoy playing the sims 4, and i still have no argument to tell you that it is a good game. It's like a toxic relatioship
Got the horrible news today that Life by You is delaying early access release from September to March, 2024. Then I saw your video. Yay!!! Sims 4 bashing!!! I really needed this Rekowcski - thank you. ;)
I think they are delaying it to make necessary changes, and I hope they use the time well. I am looking forward to playing it.
@@Rekowcski You and me both
Sims 4, I hate the game because I still make myself play it from time to time… I see a moderately fun let’s play and I’m like “okay, there is something nice going on here” but when I myself go to play it… I get bored after 2 or 3 1 hour sessions of this game… I hate that I spent so much into it because I thought maybe the next expansion was the missing link. I hate the community drama every time there is something for the game (I bet EA does it on purpose, to build clout, even if it’s bad publicity). I hate… so many things about it. I essentially returned to Sims 3 at this point, or just go play something else
If The Sims 4 would be the best, EA wouldn't put it free on its app ;) ;) ;)
my problem is that i absolutely love building and creating sims and in that aspect sims 4 absolutely rules 😩 but actual gameplay? it sucks. i just started playing ts2 again a week ago and its such a stark contrast. like i literally dont give a damn about how my sims or house looks bc i am so focused on gameplay and having fun. really puts it in perspective again. all the little details (the couch and water physics for example)
Avid Sims 3 player here, I can say that I've tried to play TS4 YEARS ago and could not. I maybe had it installed for a day or two before I deleted it entirely. I second-hand watch from Simmer on UA-cam who play TS4 but man, what a shitshow. All of it. I do wish that the build mode in Sims 3 was as high-tech as it is now but I make do and I have lots of fun with creating solutions with cheats. I'll play all the Sims, excluding the 4th, until the end of time. It's my creative outlet and has done so much good for me without any stupid kits. When will EA hear our voices, ENOUGH DAMN KITS!! Focus on the gameplay.
Not even an AI supported, nitrogen-cooled, Quantumsupercomputer can run The Sims 4…
I started playing the sims 4 in 2017. It's been six years I am now going back to sins 3. I don't even have the willpower to play the sims 4 anymore
I left Sims for more than a year out of disappointment for TS4, and then started plying TS3 again. Had some issues with Korean version(which never occurred back then), and uninstalled in the hopes of installing English version. Now EA app won't let me download any EPs, even though I bought them. It seems that this has happened to many people and EA doesn't bother to fix it for months. Maybe I'm never playing the sims again, because they locked me out of the game I own.
I've been playing The Sims since I was 5. And I was 5 in 2001, so I got to play TS1, then 2 (here, in Russia, the base game and, I believe, University came out in English first, but starting with the next packs, the game got a Russian release, so we had to buy the og game + University again) and 3, I saw them come and go. Those games were full of content, and even to this day, I like to come back to all of them, even the very first game, which might not have aged as well as the other two, but it's still full of charm and heart. Many find it eerie, but I find it oddly comforting and welcoming.
With this background, of course I was waiting for TS4. I wasn't too big on the way it looked, but I was interested because, hey, it's The Sims! And oh how disappointed I was. It was raw, boring, with not much to do. Sure, the CAS was great, but what's the point if I do not want to do anything with these characters? I like building houses in TS4, but yet again, what's the point if I don't want anyone to live there? What's the point of having these few good things if the main point of the game, which is life simulation, is boring and practically non-existent while potentially interesting gimmicks, cause that's what active careers and whatnot are, get old in about an hour? I only ever paid for the base game, which cost me nearly 3000 rubles in 2014, which was very expensive at the time, and never paid for a single pack. I pirate it every now and again to build a few houses and see what it has to offer, but I am not going to pay for a game that is this lazy and half-assed, not to mention so blatantly greedy.
Edit: Forgot to add, but there is one thing in particular that shows just how empty TS4 is. And for me, it's cheat codes. Rejuvenation chamber for TS1 (CC), need cheats for TS2 and TS3, I use them so that I can explore areas, mechanics and features. It may not be as challenging, sure, but the point is, there is stiff to do. In TS4, however, there's nothing to do. And what is there does not leave a lasting impression and is repetitive.
most sim youtubers have too much money so when a new pack comes out they hype it so much as they know they are going to get it so they are just gonna treat it like a brand new base game update, but for everyone else it just gets them excited for something that they really shouldnt be.
Sadly I think you're right :(
With sims 2 we understand why some features are not there, basic ones like, the hour be the same when you enter or leave a community lot, sims 3 too, a simulation game in a open world before the boom of hardware power in 2015, but why sims 4 is so laggy and unfinished? Didn't make sense, why close the neighboor instead or just make open neighboors with loading between worlds? They know people will buy the game, with paralives or LBY people WILL BUY THIS, and even the mess that will be project rene, same team, same mistakes, same mess, and they know they don't need to make a good game anymore, everyone know the sims, even people that don't play, I quit being angry at this mess and now I'm just waiting for LBY early acess and Paralives launch, I'm done.
I love SatchonSims, he's the only simmer on UA-cam thats realistic and brutally honest, while still making hilarious videos.
I had downloaded back the sims 3 few days ago before the horse shxt pack released. I noticed that there were way more things included in an expansion pack back in those days,and The sims 4 expansion packs are really shallow.
I grew up on the sims 4… I stopped playing and went to sims 3. I’m addicted to the sims 3 and I’ll keep it that way because at least the sims 3 is an actual game 😊
Once I tried TS4, I very quickly stopped playing and came back running to TS1 and TS2. The amount of DLC feels overwhelming yet lacking in depth. The word that describes it best to me is sanitized.
I love the Sims But i don’t know for How much longer. The game is very laggy and my Im getting quite upset about them freezing and not doing anything. Sometimes it can take up to 15-30 ’Sims minutes’ before they continue doing what they’re supposed to Do. I don’t know How much longer i can endure this, If the team don’t address all bugs and glitches..
The ironic thing is that now, the sims 3 runs way better than sims 4 😭
As a kid I played the sims 2 and I LOVED it so much I spent entire afternoons playing it, I couldn't wait to get home and play it. Then I got the sims 4 and I was VERY excited to play it, and of course I did have sort of a honeymoon phase with it but the more I played it, I remember this exact moment of child me sitting in front of the monitor and thinking "I just don't feel the same good feeling playing this as when I played the sims 2" and I ended up getting bored of the sims 4.
When I launch the Sims 4 the things I find missing are all the freebies they have offered that I tried to download (Jungle Adventure, and various kits and packs) as well as the Dogs and Cats expansion I bought years ago and that had been working up until recently. EA App says they're installed but the game says they are still downloading. Online help hasn't fixed the problems. What I like to do is take Sims 3 and recreate the promo pictures of Sims 4 to the best of my ability or most recently, used a rabbithole rug to create a walk-in horse arena (rodeo style) to play in Sims 3.
Everything in the sims 4 looks big , bulky, square.
I never played Sims 4, it has pretty objects and they did a good job at build mode but as I have seen many youtubers focus on building rather than playing, the look of the sims is too cartoony for my taste, even the horses look like a cartoon, The Sims 3 horses looked like an actual horse. I prefer Sims 3 which is my fav from all the Sims games, I know it has its problems but open world from the base game it's something a pretty object or a well done build mode can't beat, I play it along with Sims 2 and even Sims 1 till this very day and even though Sims 4 is free to download I am not interested in playing it, I rather have its pretty objects converted for TS3 or TS2 and that's about it.
I agree with all these points about the game, but I have another issue with EA itself that I'm surprised people aren't as angry about as I would have expected.
After waiting 1.5 years, I have finally been able to buy a new gaming laptop and all I wanted to do was run the Sims 3 smoothly - but it turns out that there is a big issue with newer processors. The game only opens once and then simply never runs again for me, despite trying all the fixes multiple times.
This has been an issue since at least Dec 2021 and EA has done nothing about it - they are still selling the sims 3 and it is often completely unplayable! I just don't understand why this isn't a bigger issue!
i am terrified to update anything in my PC, in fear that Sims 2 or 3 will break :(
@@Rekowcski Every time my PC asked me if I want to upgrade to Win 11, I just said no. XD
The biggest issue in my opinion with the Sims four franchise is the lack of substance. I think the graphics look great, build by is great. Even the emotions system is great, but there’s still a real lack of substance that we were exposed to in the Sims two and in the Sims three.
I just love watching shittalk videos about ts4 😂❤ it's my guilty pleasure.
It's kind of like someone talking bad about an ex haha
@@Rekowcski 👏EXACTLY👏
I haven’t BOUGHT a sims 4 pack since like the 2nd expansion I think? I wish others would follow suit and start telling EA how they feel with their pockets because the CEO doesn’t care what you say if you’re still buying the damn product. As long as the CEO’s pockets are getting filled it doesn’t matter what the devs want and it doesn’t matter what you want. But sims players just keep buying everything that comes out so the franchise is gonna be run into the ground just like fallout. I’m sure the sims 5 will be like fallout 76 and piss everyone off but I really really hope they get it together. Maybe the competitors coming out will motivate them to do more but I doubt it
For me, the Sims 4 was a shitshow in a good way, comedy gold if you're watching someone else play. So many UA-camrs just sit back & let the Sims do their chaos while stringing together a narration of the madness unfolding. The pricey DLC packs with 8 items each is unforgivable though.
bestie do u really need 5 reasons? the sims 4 itself IS the reason
The thing i hate about The Sims 4 is that you have to create a family first before you can edit the town so when u get to edit town then save and exit the game. So when i load the game back up you have to go back to the family you created before you can edit the town/world again. This was not in other sims games as you can edit the town without having to make a family first and another thing is the worlds/towns look to cartoony nothing like the other sims worlds where they looked realistic