So, it is a bad design, the cyclist is simply following the roundabout and is not crossing. If it was done for safety, to make sure the cyclist would stop and look, make the cycle path further away from the roundabout, so it is a real crossing.
You'd need a neck like an owl to be able to check for vehicles approaching from that angle. A better design would be to put the cycle crossing slightly further down the road from the roundabout and have it on a raised / humped platform that forces motorists to slow down.
@@philroo1 priority is given not taken. You shouldn't be jumping out in front of cars and demanding they stop. You stop. They see you. If they give priority, you cross. If they don't, you don't. Them's the rules and whilst motorists should be giving priority we all know that 99.99999% don't. So why on earth would you assume that they will?
@@raithrover1976 that roundabout is no different from any other roundabout or junction. The problem isn't an inability to physically see. It's that the rider didn't bother to slow appropriately and look adequately. We whine and moan about cars not being attentive and then ignore when we operate in an equally cavalier fashion and somehow still find someone else to blame. Yes, the on the road, on the pavement, on the road, across the carriageway, on the pavement again cycleways are terrible and dangerous. Knowing that, why is the rider not being extra cautious? Stop. Lifesaver. Proceed if it safe to do so. If you can't physically look over your shoulder then you shouldn't be operating any vehicle on the road.
Germany also builds sh*t like this, where cyclists have to turn left to continue on the cycle path that goes round the roundabout, with cars coming from behind exciting the roundabout
I mean that's really debatable bc in the US it's so bad you won't go anywhere on a bike. Here it is saying "come ride your bike" then putting you into a death trap. I think first option sounds better to me. But that's personal opinion. 😅
The council will claim that as 100m of cycle infrastructure to meet their targets
You'll see the car by stopping and looking before crossing the carriageway.
So, it is a bad design, the cyclist is simply following the roundabout and is not crossing. If it was done for safety, to make sure the cyclist would stop and look, make the cycle path further away from the roundabout, so it is a real crossing.
According to the HC cars should be stopping and giving priority to crossing peds and cyclists
You'd need a neck like an owl to be able to check for vehicles approaching from that angle. A better design would be to put the cycle crossing slightly further down the road from the roundabout and have it on a raised / humped platform that forces motorists to slow down.
@@philroo1 priority is given not taken.
You shouldn't be jumping out in front of cars and demanding they stop. You stop. They see you. If they give priority, you cross. If they don't, you don't.
Them's the rules and whilst motorists should be giving priority we all know that 99.99999% don't. So why on earth would you assume that they will?
@@raithrover1976 that roundabout is no different from any other roundabout or junction. The problem isn't an inability to physically see. It's that the rider didn't bother to slow appropriately and look adequately.
We whine and moan about cars not being attentive and then ignore when we operate in an equally cavalier fashion and somehow still find someone else to blame.
Yes, the on the road, on the pavement, on the road, across the carriageway, on the pavement again cycleways are terrible and dangerous. Knowing that, why is the rider not being extra cautious? Stop. Lifesaver. Proceed if it safe to do so.
If you can't physically look over your shoulder then you shouldn't be operating any vehicle on the road.
I am Dutch. I did not laugh, but was appalled to see what a city planner can come up with.
Thanks but it is pathetic with all that spare grass, mind you if they did use the grass areas they would not keep it clear for long.
Germany also builds sh*t like this, where cyclists have to turn left to continue on the cycle path that goes round the roundabout, with cars coming from behind exciting the roundabout
Still better than the US
I mean that's really debatable bc in the US it's so bad you won't go anywhere on a bike. Here it is saying "come ride your bike" then putting you into a death trap. I think first option sounds better to me. But that's personal opinion. 😅
Where is this? There are now gov guidelines on how this should be done.
Noice!