RADEON Vii can overclock! Move over Nvidia!
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- AMD Radeon Vii launched with some question of whether or not it would be able to overclock. The 19.2.2 driver update unlocked a staggering 200mhz worth of overclocking potential, but is that enough to match the likes of the Nvidia's 1080 ti or 2080?
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AMD not in the rush to push this card out fast in mass production.
AMD runs on decibel power. "Is it too loud?" isn't the right question. The question should be "How loud can we get?" We should demand louder cards that we get to rev up like car engines by pressing on the spacebar.
"Hey, is that an AMD card?"
"What???"
"...an AMD card!?!?!"
"What?????"
Pippi the Poltergeist that just killed me
It's my only problem with AMD cards.
I just have to have the quietest I can afford and that's usually an Nvidia card.
@@letni9506 Not a single AMD card (since 4870x2), or Nvidia Card I've owned so far has been loud - no LC, no Blower or custom cooler they've been all whisper quiet.
I hear if you scream at the card while it's at load you can eek out a little extra performance.
The last AMD cards I owned that were loud was two HD 4850X2s in Quad Crossfire. I've owned a few AMD cards after that 2 HD6970s, R9 Fury X, RX Vega 64 LC. Granted that the last two are watercooled all of these cards are very quiet.
Hey timmy the orange curve is for adjusting voltage u can move it up and down I did an overclocking undervolting video if ur interested !! I got 2021 MHz but people in my discord have got 2100mhz !! My voltage at 2021 is 1.075 volts or 1075 mv !! Hope this helps!! Cheers Paul
While it may not be absolutely higher than the 2080 or 2080 Ti, it's a heck of a lot more stable and no stutter compared to Nvidia cards in select games, especially in 'heavy' frame hurting games that eats up VRAM like no tomorrow.
These cards are capable of 2200+ but they lack the cooling. Under water these cards are routinely getting 2150+ core.
So I am hoping the waterblocks EK puts out in about 2 months will do good for these cards.
I know my Vega64 is a silicon lottery winner. 1855Mhz is where mine tops out at. HBM2 is iffy.. 1150 is possible but only under 42C. Generally I am stuck around 1100 on the HBM2. So you'd think these 7nm cards could hit the 2.0-2.2Ghz marks.
@@nathans3022 HBM generate vthe most heat. So finding a good speed and undervolt hbm might free a few temps for core oc.
@@dra6o0n Oh, I am not worried about temps really. I keep my Vega64 at 1750Mhz core, 1100 HBM 24/7. Vega64 gets far better results with HBM2 overclocked than with core. My HBM2 stays the same temp as the liquid temp. Which is anywhere from 42-51C depending on ambient temp.
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You can drop about -100mV on these cards and its pretty much guareenteed to work, so looks like you have a good chip that should be able to do 2000MHz at 1.1mV range, this will drop the temps a good amount and keep those fans down... I have a dud that does only 1900MHz at 1140mV only...
Congrats on getting the Radeon 7, you have some amazing loving fans dude
And this things Fan's love him :p
Isn't this a bit misleading, Rtx 2080's can hit 2100 MHz, but to be fair Radeon VII's don't die as frequently lol.
only the rtx 2080 ti died allot the normal one not :)
My 2080 hits 2100 MHz on the core, And 2000 on the memory no problem and never hits 70C.
@@docrx1857 I can cook a egg on my 2070.......
@@grasshopper1g I have serious airflow in my case. 4 120mm in 3 120mm out only suggestion ocan make is add some fans .
@@Pand0rasAct0r_ not rly, i sqw enoug dead 2070 and 2080and those wasnt founder edition lol
To anyone who wants to buy a card but can't because they are out of stock in the typical retailers such as newegg/etc - you can now order the cards directly off of AMD's website where they ARE in stock. I hope this helps if you're looking to buy, and please don't fall for the scalpers on places like ebay.
Must be a regional thing. I scanned the whole AMD website from top to bottom, from bottom to top and diagonally and didn't find anything apart from the classic "where to buy" page, and I'm in Europe. Could you please share a link if possible?
@@previousslayerYou can buy from AMD if you live in the US...
@@SeriousSam101 Thanks for the info 👍 Now that's a bit of a pity (not that we're scarce on good retailers - we're not - but still).
@@SeriousSam101 Also available in Canada via AMD...$925 CAD at this time.
I was waiting you to review that beast.
I'm actually planning to buy one of these, because I don't care about DLSS and Ray Tracing stuff, so that card can be a pretty good Future Proof card with its 16GB of VRAM.
Keep da good work Timmy ;)
dont. by the time games need 16gb this one will be trash.
dependend on where you live.. a rtx 2080 can be way cheaper. here 100 euros cheaper. and also more available.
you may not like rtx or dlss but.. the raw power of the new rtx series is just unmatched.
think about now and the short future. the rtx 2080 will be better.
@@Pand0rasAct0r_ i beg to differ, games are already using more than 10gb of vram, It may only be a few but there are games that use massive amounts of vram
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the 2080 only has 8gb of Vram, thats a total rip off for a card that cost 800$. you will quicker use more vram than ray tracing and dlss.
@IKSDE XD Radeon 7 has already been benchmarked on Shadow of the Tomb Raider and the RTX 2080 out performs it.
Plus I look forward to using Ray Tracing in 4 to 5 years time as realistic lighting is more appealing than fake hand placed lighting.
One thing to note is 11 current / upcoming games have RTX, and since the release of Vulkan in 2016, we only have 14 Vulkan games.
In the subject of monitors, my 43 inch Philips 4K IPS display is more expensive than my GTX 1080, and my 35 inch Asus Rog Strix 3440 x 1440 Ultra wide (sorry this will hurt, but yes it's a freesync monitor) is also more expensive than my GTX 1080, if price is a concern then why bother talking about 4K resolution? Linus did a video on how 4K on a 24 inch monitor is pointless and people can hardly tell the difference from 1080p.
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J G this is actually true. I've been using an RX 480 for a couple of years now without really feeling like I actually need an upgrade. I'll eventually actually need one, the question is when though.
@@ArtisChronicles If you do just 1080p/60 fps gaming, all you neeed is an AMD RX 480, Nvidia 1060, or similar budget cards for a good gaming experience.
I had a gtx780 for ages as I turned MSI Afterburner off so I couldn't see the fps while gaming.
I am more a rpg/strategy game player so high fps isn't such an issue for me.
In fact at the moment I have a socket 776 system recently 'Upgraded' to a Radeon R9 270! 🤣
I do 1080p but I have a 144hz monitor. I really need more power, I have a 980ti from EVGA and it's not fast enough in a lot of games.
My framerate target is over 144 fps, with everything turned up that's a hard target to hit.
I really really want an AMD card now, so looking forward to Navi.
AMD cards seem to get better when the drivers mature over time. Impressive card!
Deon Spates yeah the driver team is usually a bit behind with things. not necessarily a bad thing since it's technically become a selling point even if AMD isn't directly saying it.
its still behind a 3 years old card, with much higher wattages.....
@@trilingualkid but that card you speak of is overpriced
Just get a ugly AMD card and add a cooler, never worry about loud AMD cards again
@@fintansky9369 you can get a used 1080ti for 600 or less, I know because I'm selling one locally, or if you want to go brand new, you can get an RTX 2080 for 700 and its actually available. You can only get Radeon 7 via third parties and they charge an upward of +$300 premiums.
AMD definitely did this on purpose to create a supply and demand, very smart but evil of them.
You're like the red-headed child of tech channels.
...oh wait
Lol.
Lol he smelled the foam
Good vid can't believe you got it
Your arent looking... voltage is where it use to be, you have to slide the curve. ALL the reviewers screwed up. My day 1 drivers allowed for overclocking with an undervolt.
How’s the Vega running?
Historically when AMD launches a new card on a new die shrink they normally release a budget card. They would take an existing gpu and shrink it, then do a run of gpu's to test the new die shrink, and work out the bugs, in the past they would do this on budget cards, but this time they did their flagship card. I think in the past they avoid top tier reviews by releasing a budget card, and often it would get great reviews for a budget card avoiding negative press from releasing a top tier card on die shrink. It takes about 2 to 3 months to print a gpu, all those fabs working together making a gpu. So every time they make a batch of gpu's they can test em then tweek the next batch, etc. So this would explain why there's a small batch of AMD 7's, and why the drivers where rushed... AMD is working hard on their navie cards which might be out in 3 months or so, (cuz it takes 2 to 3 months to print those gpu's, after tweaking the first batch of gpu's (amd 7's).
They will probably release the card with all 64 CU active. Because it probably has 64 CU, but Radeon VII only has 60 CU active / functional. Yield and binning thing. Would be cool, if they release the one with 64 CU a bit higher clock and integrated water cooling, just like Fury X. If it is ~150$ more than Radeon VII, I will definitively grab it.
I remember AMD doing that, it was a smart move.
@@movax20h umm... This actually is a Pro card with 4 defective CUs (I guess)
@@doggSMK yes. Probably chips that have all 64 CUs functional are 1% of all chips. Most of them on a wafer will have few random ones defective. But at the moment even if only 0 or 1 is defective, and will still disable (or remove from circuit by cutting connections with laser), and deliver as 60.
Standard practice, yield, binning, market segmentation.
@@movax20h in reality, this is the card, and Radeon 7 is the leftovers from that but I think only about 20/30% or below are not fully functional www.anandtech.com/show/13562/amd-announces-radeon-instinct-mi60-mi50-accelerators-powered-by-7nm-vega
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In my country..the radeon 7 is same priced as the rtx 2080 mini,plus with that 3 free new games..thats a good deal bruhh
With this price you can get the fastest 1080ti and 6 flagship games from online.
Is it ? Because before this card came out people were going insane about spending £700 on a grapics card. Rubbish games included or not.
@@rollingdigger19 Not a single shop here has the 1080ti for sale - and no card I've ever seen comes with 6 games. either 1, 2 or 3 Games.
In my country the Radeon VII is cheaper than some 2070s.
@@rollingdigger19 Gimme the link
It seems like the Vega 64 has become a tremendous value with time. The drivers evolved, the game support improved and pricing is very favorable now.
Clearly Vega 64 is the better value today and seems to be roughly 1080 performance at well below what 1080 prices were a few months ago, and way below what they are today.
I would not be surprised if Radeon VII does not improve a lot from here. New game drivers and configs will find ways to use that extra memory and fat pipe to deliver extra performance.
Just as AMD is pushing core count on CPUs I wonder if they won't push memory speed and pipe on the GPU side. Textures and shaders are all about memory.
You're an honest man with warm heart. Keep up the great videos! Thanks Jason for providing this card to youtubers like Timmy who deserve it!
I believe AMD is saying what's the point in investing PR in Radeon VII when there aren't enough to go around? They're not trying to sell it on purpose because there's not enough stock and they definitely don't want people complaining just like they did about stock in previous generations. This card was just a stopgap until Navi arrives later this year
Navi, which is going to be a low-end affordable card that is actually worse than Radeon VII.
Lul.
@@MyouKyuubi what makes you assume that it's going to be a low-end affordable card? I wouldn't make assumptions about graphics cards that we know nothing about yet. We shall find out how it performs when it's released and then if the performance of Navi turns out to be low then feel free to lul all you please.
@@Zipzeolocke "what makes you assume that it's going to be a low-end affordable card?"
Because according to a shitton of AMD fanboys, that's what AMD said Navi was gonna be... Sorry, there's no saviour coming for you. :P
@@MyouKyuubi but they are also making assumptions about cards that haven't been released yet. I feel like people should really wait-and-see how they are reviewed before presumptuously shooting them down. it just doesn't seem right
@@Zipzeolocke "but they are also making assumptions about cards that haven't been released yet."
Well, it's not an assumption if AMD themselves said it, and these AMD fanboys are just passing along AMD's words. -.-'
Also, for the Manual fan curve. It goes off Junction temp, so when you set your curve, you'll want to be 10-15 degrees above what you'd regularly so. My card sits at 2100RPM and sits in the mid 60s during gaming.
What your radeon 7’s stock voltage in wattman bad binned cards are over 1100mv and anything under that is good and under 1050mv is golden mine was 1070mv stock. I get my best scores just oc the memory to 1200 and adding 50 to the core on firestrike graphics
Yes dude, this has been awesome, can't wait for ek waterblock to come out in a month or so. so far 1200 on memory and 1900 on core without having to overvolt.
I got 2100mhz with a slight overvolt on core
Yeah my core isn't too great, i can do 1800 at 1v but i cant overclock it higher than 1950 without going over stock, I put my morpheus 2 cooler on it today, that helped with temps but it's not helping me go higher on the core. maybe liquid cooling will let me get 2ghz, thats all i want :P
Yes agree with Timmy AMD cards super fun to play around with, especially with custom water cooling.
for all its faults.. id take that over anything and i mean ANYTHING nvidia could ever make.. i will forever hold a grudge against nvidia for killing 3dfx and Ageia Fk nvidia till there out of business i say..
well... I buy Nvidia used only. I agree we need them for competition to avoid a monopoly BUT, I would be totally content with AMD taking the lead and turning Nvidia into a much lesser company that isn't controlling everything
Yeah, well is the lesser of two evils, with it being quite consumer friendly with support and supporting open source software and hardware
well while im with u in spirit facts are 3dfx was about to go bust and nvidia took the opportunity to absorb them and make better products, anyone would do that. As for ageia well same thing, the physx card had major latency issues and few games really used it so it was nvidia or eventual bankruptcy
@@japookie it's too bad physx kinda went to nothing too. It was a cool concept at least having it as a separate card :/
I prefer amd in general, but I buy nvidia when its priced good. I bought a gtx 1070 because of the good price.
be careful bro that graphite pad is there for a reason. not all the surfaces it touches are flush to each other
Yep the gpu package was rushed out so the resin on it isn't even at all and it I have no idea how you successfully you could lap the resin which is why I don't think many people have tried.
Might be wrong, but from what I know, these were problemes of Vega 56 and 64. I remember seeing a video in which they mesured die Heigt differences between die HBM modules and the actual chip and they were non-existent
No, they are flush. The thick pad is there to bridge the thick gap...
@@xnoreq gamers nexus did pressure and contact tests on radeon 7 during their first video review what it revealed was interesting.
I removed the pad on my VII and used Thermal Grizzly paste instead. 20c lower temps instantly...
Still sitting at 2146MHz peak Clock in FireStrike at 1.17V...can't go higher with the stock cooler. I reached out to Raijintek and asked them if a Morpheus is planned for the VII or any other cooler at that, and they said that they just got the scans and are working on it. I guess we can expect some decent coolers for the VII in 2-3 months.
Still, even with that I doubt going above 2100MHz on air is not possible due to temps. Still, despite the 1.17V, the card itself roughly draws 360W peak, that is pretty nice still. Something like 2050-2080 at around 1.1V or even 1.08 if you got a decent card should be ok.
Fitted an EK block to mine running at 2200mhz now. Going from the stock cooler which couldn't even keep cool enough to stay at 1750mhz up to 2200mhz all day long has made a nice improvement in my FPS!
With these cards it’s good PC building practice to use a copious amounts of Thermal Paste
This may be the sleekest looking reference design I've ever seen. That beautiful silver shroud is nuts. Cool video👍
the thermal sheet/pad in Radeon VII works better than thermal paste with the original cooler because is has better coverage with the pressure GamersNexus did a pressure test
5:29 7nm for a Radeon VII is so efficient it runs 0mhz.
overclock it to 1mhz and you'd get 100+ FPS
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Keep it at 40%-60% fan speed all the way up too 75 degrees then 100% fan speed with your under volt core clock. It stays quiet for the most part and pretty cool.
When in doubt, hit the auto-undervolt option to look at how the performance curve operate and then clock it higher to keep it to the same ratio.
I always leave some skepticism about OEM cards versus AIB partner cards. However, that being said, Timmy have you tested it against workstation benchmarks like Blender and other professional rendering toolkits? I'm actually interested in seeing some of those benchmarks also.
ReaperX7 I was actually tempted to find and try out an oem card to see how it runs.
you can adjust voltage by dragging the curve vertically, while clocks are modified horizontally
have you tested this with the 19.3.3 driver? try using gelid thermal paste. have had some good drops in cooling with it.
Hey, can I ask you what microphone do you use? That gold one. Thanks 👌
Attention Timmy Joe: Would you recommend Radeon VII or an RTX 2080? Excluding RTX 2080 Ti that over $1200 and some AIB partner cards are more. I see Radeon VII runs like a revved engine. I was thinking about getting the Radeon VII but if the RTX 2080 which is in my possession in my PC is a heck of a whole lot better then it's a keeper.
this dude here is so appreciative of this, im impressed with alot of his videos and this dude is so down to earth and friendly and knows what hes talking about (even when he dosnt) he dosnt try to fake it hes just himself on cam as he is off cam, im def a fanboy now and shout out to Jason for hooking up timmy joe with the most bad@$$ Gpu made!
I love the casual, fun nature of your channel that most tech review channels lack. Why can't more people be casual and give their honest opinion? You deserve more views XD
you are correct - the other reviewers were told no overclocking when in fact it was the driver. they were given duff info by amd themselves.
I increased the power table on my vega 64 registry to 150% power. It runs about 10% faster with the water cooling loop getting around 70c. I can stable clock at 1704mhz at 1050mhz memory.
New to your channel and loving the content. Question though: why are you not running water cooling on your Vega?
timespy is nvidia biased, unlike firestrike, which is better for comparing nvidias zu amds
I hate to say it because the initial cost is high, but custom loop is the way to go for no noise. Its a pain to setup and to maintain, but silence is golden and in my opinion, worth it.
What is your stock voltage on that card Timmy Joe?
Ctrl+Shift+O = Radeon Wattman Overlay
Set it up in Wattman to Monitor what you want and for placement...
Please please please, let me know how that water block works. I took the shroud off my Radeon VII along with the fans and have it vertically mounted with a Vornado room circulating fan attached to a cut out hole in the plexiglass. Works pretty good, but this beast needs to be water cooled to sustain high core frequencies for hours on end, even after under volting.
if the price comes down a little bit and 3rd party cards can reduce the ridiculous noise, there's some potential here for a great mid-high end card. Especially considering the smoothness of the experience (these cards have better 1% lows than even the 2080 Ti in the testing I have seen so far).
Love the video can't wait to see how far you can push it
I love to tweak with my computer, so that's why I love Vega. Plus I think Vega was a future looking GPU in a way, especially VRAM wise with the 16GB now on VII and HBCC. I've added my system memory to my PC and allocated 12GB to my 56 using HBCC, it's makes a difference in smoothness in some games. You buy a VEGA you can keep it for a while...
My Radeon still shows an occasional artifact in Unigen Heaven when overclocking to 2000MHz even with the voltage bumped up to 1200mv. On the flip side it stays quite at stock.
Can't wait for water cooled versions to come out, or 3rd party versions if Radeon even does that.... This should be a nice upgrade from my Radeon R9 Fury
The 'conditions' on which he has to follow up on getting this card...... He has to take naked photos with the Radeon 7 and send them to the guy. I heard one of them, he put the Radeon over his Schlong.
/s
Have you tried the automatic undervolting feature that AdoredTV mentioned in his video?
AND ITS SO LOUD THAT YOU NEED TO SPEAK LOUDER DURING THE TEST PHASE DUE TO OVERHEATING CHIP
Totally agree, AMD's BIGGEST mistake with the Radeon VII was not being diligent enough with their marketing. It was funny and SOOOO on point watching Steve scolding AMD for the terrible launch. They probably had so much confidence in what the card can do that they didn't pay attention to the details. I ordered mine after watching Jay, Steve @ GN, Digital Foundries, and der8auer. In fact it was Jay saying he would use the Radeon VII and der8auer hitting 2100mhz on dry ice with bad drivers, that did it for me and aside from not yet having good drivers and straightforward overclocking or undervolting capabilities in Linux, I don't regret getting the card
Cant be all bad
Weren't they sold out
@@zye8355 Yup, they were, but think they are back in stock now. At least the one Timmy has which was likely ordered directly from AMD.
They are good cards, I never imagined I'd hear even Buildzoid say he would pay $1,000 for a Radeon VII if AMD restored the 2 or 4 VRMs missing from the pcb and marketed it as something like a Radeon VII-X. A lot of the drama on the interwebs came because of the botched launch, the price and no 8GB version. Hence the who needs 16GB of VRAM.
I can safely say from playing the latest Star Citizen alpha at 4K ultra on Linux using WINE/DXVK, I have seen the game using 9-10GB of VRAM not simply requested but actual used VRAM.
@@elr77 Just how in the world are you guys ordering directly from AMD? I'm in Europe and their website is null on this "buy directly" thing when accessed from my IP, Google doesn't help either. Could some1 please share a link?
@@previousslayer I believe you can only order from AMD if you live in the US.
@@footballjake18 Understood, thx :)
My number one question is, why didn't AMD make a GPU that could rival the 2080 on default settings?
because they lack r&d funds.
@@Dr.WhetFarts That explains
Huang's comments about "did AMD thought about this launch one day before?" Is true, AMD really did rush this out because Navi came back with problems which pushed launch way back. Vega 7 was never intended to be released to counter Nvidia RTX, it's a stop gap, also AMD don't have funds and don't give a shit, people buy Nvidia anyways, like how the 1050ti outsold the RX570 despite costing the same or more and performs much worse.
Just out of curiosty, what are your settings for vega 64 undervolt? Im having trouble getting mine to stay over 1600 when undervolting. Thanks!
It's great to see some enthusiastic competition between company products. Software will be improved over time and hopefully.. Hopefully Navi is similar enough in software implementation that ports between XBoxes and Sony 5 's to PCs will be improved in performance. Since many reviewers don't actually 'own' a Radeon 7 will not see the improvements over time due to tuning and cooling improvements.
Best Radeon Vii video I've seen yet!
TJ a good way to watch what the card is doing while running games or doing benchmarks is to use AMD Link, AMD's phone/pad app. I use it on my iPad next to me when I play intense games or run BM's so I can see what the stats of the card are real time while the benchmark or game is running.
I clicked the thumbs up at the beginning of the video. That's faith in you Timmy!
I was afraid you'd be biased from the title, but i'm impressed. Nice honest review!
What wattage does your 64 use at max load? Mine only uses 210 at max load.
Why does everyone have to do weird setups like this that risk condensation on components? You could just use a window AC unit, bits of flexible hosting for dryers, and have it suck air from a coole,r and dispense cold air back into said cooler. Drop the rig inside, and you have a contained loop that'll keep the system super cold. Toss some silicone packets in there to absorb any humidity.
I love mine. So far I can OC to about 2025 at 1075mv but I can keep 1830mhz stable at .980. Which is what I've been doing mostly.
Timmy can you make a video on how to use wattman? I want to give it a try and I don't understand the whole changing states thing. I'm also not very experienced in overclocking and rhere are no good tutorials out there.
Your video quality has improved the new camera is awesome.
Your math is bad tim... 12:28 it is actually 316 points slower, or you could approximate it directly at 200-300... Isn't that hard... If it was 1000points slower it was way slower than in your test.
Graphics score is what I was going for there. It's 1000 points behind in the graphics score. That means the timespy run I did with the 1080ti was probably not nearly as stable as the run with Radeon Vii
@@TimmyJoePCTech oh sorry! My bad.
Timmy Joe's selling himself on the street to get computer parts haha. Love your videos man, keep up the good work.
It's not a pad. It's a powder that melts on first time heating up and then increases its size by ~15% before turning solid again. This allows the substance to perfectly fit inbetween the GPU die and the Heatpipes. It's a very good solution and even applying LM will maybe only increase temps by 1-2°C. Not worth it.
Wish it was available for us end users.
12:20 Timmy there was / is a bug with the highest tier Threadripper on Windows that might limit the graphics performance too. I don't knwo when they will release a fix for that but Wendel from L1 Techs was showing that bug.
Oh and how much RAM is inside your computer?
You said what kind of RAM it was but not how much it is.
reminds me so much of my powercolor reference 290X, just needs a water block. it made a huge difference!
Didn't you tried applying liquid metal + a raijintek morpheus 2 (idk if they are compatible but if they are you can get 2 good 120 mm fans and get a lot more of room + less noise)
more VRAM and I don't have to support Nvidia so its a win for me. Just got mine today and I have to say that 4K looks beautiful on my 55" Gaming TV With Freesync. Its buttery smooth in Sniper elite 4, Subotica, and Dark Souls 3. I'm happy to support AMD and hope they continue to drive innovation. With DLSS being shit because it's making everything blurry and ray tracing being another completely worthless feature when your not in specialized cinematics, I am looking forward to playing the 3 new games I got bundled with the Radeon VII and eventually putting a water block on the card.
@El diablo da Costa you paid 2x the amount i did. thats just not worth it for that extra 10% - 20% more performance for me.
@El diablo da Costa People don't need 120Hz... And he has the right to do what he want to do with HIS money right ?
I don't think having thermal paste will increase performance. They had to use the graphite pad because the cooler plate doesn't perfectly fit the die because of production variations. The guys at Gamers Nexus replaced it with thermal paste, they noted lower temperatures at the edges of the die but higher ones at the center, as the plate didn't make proper contact with the die in that area with thermal paste. Maybe you are lucky and your cooler plate fits better and sits evenly in the die, in that case thermal paste will be an improvement.
I have a graphite pad so I can trace the one they out in if needed
When your smashing keys and cannibal corpse is making ears bleed, fan noise is an afterthought.
Can you use hwinfo osd to see the gpu frequency during gameplay?
I wonder if there are any blocks for it yet? actually it might not even need a full cover block as the HBM2 and the gpu die are on the same package, one of those nzxt aio things might do the trick, just make sure its atleast 240m
#ExpectBetterCableManagmentFromTimmyJoe :P By the way love your videos, please keep it up.
Naww I won't give up don't you worry :)
Put CPU waterblock on it. I have done it on my rx 480, i could hit 1500mhz, but in some games that crash easier than others its not possible.
Hello Timmy, use HWinfo to get all the info you need, turn on the osd on the setings. Worked for me.
Jimmy, next time monitor the MHz with AMDLink on your phone. Pretty neat program and improved since release last year
Pretty sure and put the carbon pad on because of height difference of chips that paste wouldn't work with.. Or may work but not cool all parts under the copper
im so confused by all of you tech youtubers. *my massively overclocked 1080ti beat it by less than 300 points in a synthetic... must not be very good* wtf.. really? what does radeon have to do, double the performance to get notice? amd has always been for smarter pc builders who can squeeze performance out. Can't wait for everyone to eat their words over the next year. open source ray tracing coming soon™
theres already an opensource raytracer by amd, Radeon Rays back in 2016
@@Theironlefty i know right, had it running on an 8350 or 8150fx with an r9 290 i believe
Ray tracing isnt a big enough difference for me to waste all my money
well the 1080ti is a much older card you know ..
i just love the smell of brand new computer parts when they come out of the box
Optimum Tech managed to get their Radeon VII, on day one, to overclock, undervolt and stay cool enough to only have to run the fans at 1500 RPM. Impressive stuff!
Honestly I think its cover is too restrictive for the air. And BTW I always wondered if there is some very short PCI-E raisers that could move the card just a bit far away from the motherboard, so it can have more space for proper exhaust. That needs some DIY brackets and case modding probably, but sounds doable. I also have an exhaust fan (can't remember 92x92 or 120) attached from the outside of the PCI-brackets area by the cable ties nicely. Always wondered why case manufacturers never thought about adding a fan slot here, because nowdays people use only one or two top slots anyway
To figure out the MHz of the card - why don't you hook up the other display you have on your table to it and have the Radeon software on the other display?
Or if you have an old Android unit lying around - then use AIDA64 along with a plugin to display system information live on the android device, it's quite doable and just requires a little bit of research.
Where is the audio from the intro sourced from?
Hasn't been cold enough to try my Crossfire ROG Vega 56 outside just freakin rain.
maybe it helps with the noise when you brush the sharp edges of the cooler with steelwool
I wish AMD finds a way to cut down its TDP without losing performance through software.
Good strategy- send to reviewers and have none to sell so people hold off on buying NVidea cards.
Considering with all that ram they reportablly can't turn a profit at RRP.
Good to see you smaller guys getting them though and benefiting from knowledge obtained thus far re undervolting and better drivers. Would be awesome to see an aftermarket cooler on this.
Since you mentioned undervolting vega (56), i managed to have a stable 1650mhz+- without having it to sound like a jetengine.. Right now im playing far cry new dawn and i can barely hear the fans.. Gta v makes it a little more noisy but i can hardly hear it trough headset.. I use msi afterburner.. Memory is clocked at 870mhz.. And core undervolting is set to minus - 125 and it fluctuate between 1030-1050.. Also power is set to +50%.. Memory is not set higher than 870 cuz it will cause graphics artifacts.. Core clock at 1700mhz on msi reading (1650mhz)
ITS 300 POINTS BEHIND A 1080TI IN TIMESPY
Graphics score is what I was going for there. It's 1000 points behind in the graphics score. That means the timespy run I did with the 1080ti was probably not nearly as stable as the run with Radeon Vii
Yeah, I was going to say the same. Common Timmy Joe, give it some credit.
Ohh ok
Jesus, I was checking the pricing in South Africa. The price of the 1160ti is out now it will cost 507 dollars, while amd vega 64 costs 456 dollars. While the 2080 ti costs 1,786 dollars.
There's also issues with the resin package on the gpu die not being even making cooling painful.
I scored well on mine, 2000/1180 on 1080mv