I've done large parts of my PhD on the Radeon VII. We bought 10 of these at the price of 1 Nvidia V100 16GB, providing 10x the memory and performance. I've used them for computational fluid dynamics simulations.
I've just ordered its professional sibling, called Instinct MI50. For $150. I have no idea why i may need this, but the price was too good to reject :)
One of the best looking cards ever....I think AMD should offer their top tier cards in a limited edition that looks like this, i.e. a 6900XT that looks like this, a 7900XTX that looks like this, and an 8000 series that looks like this
The card was never a great performer vs its 2080 competition, but 16GB of VRAM in early 2019 was amazing. And the red shrouded anniversary edition is one of the best looking GPU shrouds of all time IMO.
depends what you can bring out of the system in which you put it. I honestly lOl at the occasional bad mouthing of certain hardware limitations and under 60 fps nonsense. Ive always been able to get 60+fps @ 1080p on high settings first with my gtx 1070, now with my rtx 2060 inside an aging 4th gen i7 setup. I read somewhere that comparative benchmarking is a sham, and should be taken with a pinch of salt. A simple way to test games is to switch up hardware, putting together odd configurations and stress testing them. Windows is a b***h too, as are certain in game engines.
I've always found this era of Radeon cards to be so stylish. They really do look so well designed, like they should have a bookshelf of industrial/commercial design awards.
Hey the Radeon VII! This was my wife's GPU back then until she upgraded and she had a love hate relationship with it. It played pretty much any game she had at 1440p, but she had driver issues constantly. Looking forward to seeing it again.
The Radeon VII! I used to have one from late 2019 to early 2021. It definitely felt inefficient, all things considered, but it was cool to have! I ended up selling it for double the amount I had paid for it, so I was happy with how it ended for me
This card really shines with dxvk and vulcan. I have pushed mine to the extremes and still kicks strongly in a ton of games. Personally I think most of the problems the card had was not being fully utilized with the drivers. It's a whole different beast under a vulcan api with around 35 to 50 percent in performance.
Always wanted one of these but never plucked up the courage especially after the initial issues the card had with the drivers. Pleased you found one at the right price, thanks for sharing 🙂
G'day Bob, Yeah one of these for the collection would be nice but as you & Steve said at the right $$$, I just had a look on Ebay down here & the cheapest is $999AUD🤨, with a couple of people wanting $2250AUD & $2500AUD😱
Amd always was mire generous than nvidia in that regard... Even back in 2013 with the 290x 8gb model... Best nvidia had was 780 ti 3gb... They also had a 780 6gb but slower
@@nicane-9966 Nvidia is way too stingy with vram, to the point that they only give you more for SKUs that are otherwise too easily beaten by the AMD equivalent, such as when they increased the VRAM on the 2060 and 3060, but not on the higher end SKUs. The 3060 12GB had more VRAM than all of their GPUs up to 3080 Ti and later 3080 12gb.
@@deepspacecow2644 that's quite literally the same with nvidia though, they just put smaller ram chips on the cards and give them different drivers and higher clocks
The noise might be remedied by changing the thermal pad with thermal paste and use the washer mod. Currently have a Radeon VII on water so i've not tested the stock cooler in ages
When i saw those fans of Vega 7 in 2019 i knew it would be shrill. But such cooler mistakes are common for reference Radeon cards. Reference Vega 64 actually was not a bad card when you fixed AMD's mistake, which was thermal rather than noise pitch issues. Dremel bracket airflow mod plus better thermal paste stopped most of the clock throttling while retaining the soft woosh of the stock fan curve.
i love the radeon VII not because of it's preformance, but because of how cool it looks and how interesting it is with the hbm and being the first 7nm gpu. same how i love the amd fury because of just how unique it is. i am currently running an r9 nano in my pc, and it runs all i want it to run. i love that little card with all it's power
i rememeber my oncle having a saphire r9 fury damn that thing could mine and heat the room... he bought it for i think 200€ mined 6 months and sold it again for 200€ good days. but that thing was a beast, massive gpu.
you're a person after my own heart. Even if I get less frames I enjoy each frame more when I know I'm squeezing them out of some sort of funky card. Same reason I stuck with a watercooled r9 fury for a long time.
@@armando1is1great Back in the day, I hated AMD because of drivers. For some reason though, in 2018, I switched to AMD. Started at RX580. Then to 5700XT to 6700XT to 6800XT. I play a ton of games. Probably too many. I have had no show stopping driver bugs TBH. I know some people had black screen issues with HDMI a few years ago on the 5700XT. That was patched out by the time I got to that card. I do remember reading about Radeon VII having problems at launch though.
@@F1neW1ne yeah to be honest though all cards have problems at launch it is just a thing that happens that is why i for the most part don't get any thing new first day i always a few months before doing it just to make sure all the kinks are out.
The stuttering in newer games is caused by devs using UE4 and DX12 without compiling the game's shaders at the start, like they do with consoles. That leaves the GPU to compile the shaders on the fly, which is way slower than having them saved in the system. The only fix is that devs patch their games to compile them at the start or maybe Microsoft can forced them when using DX12.
Not the GPU, Unreal Engine compiles shaders on the CPU using the DirectX Compiler (DXC) or the HLSL Compiler (HLC) and it's done as part of the asset pipeline.
Thanks for covering the GPU I am currently using! You could have tested the Amernime Drivers as well in order to activate SAM - in some titles it really gives you the edge especially in 1440p =)
Legacy SAM/ReBar works with official drivers too, no need for custum ones. just paste this code in notepad and save it as .reg (not .txt) Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000] "KMD_EnableReBarForLegacyASIC"=dword:00000001 "KMD_RebarControlMode"=dword:00000001 "KMD_RebarControlSupport"=dword:00000001 run, and add it to the registry, restart PC, enjoy 5-15% more fps.
Would be nice to see a follow-up video with the GPU undervolted and using Nimez Drivers (resizeable bar+RDNA driver optimizations) since that provides a boost in modern games.
I bought this GPU on launch ($700) and was able to buy a 6900 XT and pocket $500 by selling it during the mining craze. I'll never be able to do that again.
Vega 64 and radeon 7 were my dream cards. Upgraded from an rx580 (less than 200) to vega 64(£220) and the difference felt huge. Both bought new. Then after a month of buying the vega I've seen a new radeon 7 for £500. I was so pressed to buy it but i didn't. I'm glad that i didn't as for that money i bought a 3070ti last year. But amazing cards. They were good enough
yeah same the vega 56 and vega 64 and radeon VII where those cards i always dreamed off but they disappeared befor i could try and buy one and then mining came and there price went crazy high, it was that wierd gen of cards that launched and then went quiet and disappeared...
@@PoweredByLS2 yes and no. So at first i was a bit upset about it but then i remembered how huge my backlog is anyway. Also i thought about it and realised that in the future i can move this 3070ti in my itx and get a better card for my main rig. But if i do that i obviously need to move this huge rig downstairs if i have a 4K tv or get rid of the 1080p monitors and get a 4K monitor... So it isn't the end of the world. Besides i have 3 other devices to play on so.... most likely the 3070ti will die before i will feel its obsolescence as i don't play new games. I still haven't tried witcher 3 because i lack the time... i have red dead 2 installed since December 2021 and i am still at chapter 5... i wish i could play more but yeah... Edit: adult life sucks but tending to responsibilities allows me to have all this tech. Hopefully i will have a kid that can use all this to its full potential and wear it out earlier so i can get new tech without feeling guilty for hoarding tech and not using it
@Barbus Bogdan Oh geez, your reply just hit me hard. I just upgraded to a shiny new 6950XT and 850 Watt PSU to drive it in order to get more FPS on my games that I rarely play due to life getting in the way. Haha
@@PoweredByLS2 yep that is the truth. It is sad but i guess this is what life is and if we want to live up to a certain standard and achieve some goals we need to play less and dedicate our time towards reaching those goals. On the bright side i could always build a PC with the 3070 performance and be more than happy with it haha.
Fun fact: In Steam games on Linux, you don't get the DX12 and Vulkan shader compiler stuttering, because Valve distributes prefilled shader caches as part of their their SteamPlay project (the specific tech behind this is fossilize).
I know this is a gaming channel but it's probably worth mentioning that this card has 1:4 rate Double Precision compute resulting in 3.36 TFlops of FP64 compute performance. This is one of the best cards for Milkyway@Home if you're into volunteer computing.
This card is really torque-y if that makes sense. Can't really do 1080p 100fps+ in most games, but boy will it chug through games at 4k while maintaining a smooth 60fps. Probably all the Vram...
Bought this card on release. I still use this card. And they kept updating it frequently until 2023. Also AMD said they still have an update eventually just not as frequent anymore. It was definitely a beast card for it's time and is still a decent card to this day for 1440p games. Just saving up for the new gpus now but not having to upgrade for basically 5 years was a good investment in retrospect. Plus I get the added historical reference factor that this card had during it's hey day which was the crypto currency boom and bust. Meanwhile I just used mine for gaming. Probably going to put it in a display case one day once I build a new PC.
I was happy with my Radeon VII. I love the minimalist design, it is beautiful. Funnily enough, a couple weeks after I bought mine, they announced the Anniversary edition. I was tempted to do a return and get the red one.
I bought one, when AMD introduced something newer, so I got a discount. I use it for editing 4K and 6K movies. I capture in Blackmagic Raw, and use DaVinci Resolve. The 16 GBy Video Ram makes for smooth scrubbing, plus very quick export.
I love seeing these rare beasts show up, and I totally get the collector’s item feel to it. I bought an r9 Nano a few years back for the same reason since I always wanted one back when they first came out. Great video!
An absolute unique card, I'm looking forward to testing it in the next new titles. In terms of this card volume, maybe the card needs a new thermal paste on the core? Just be careful with cleaning the thermal paste around the HBM2 memory, it's easy to damage the connections, it's better to leave it and wipe only the very top, just like on the core.
@@_B.C_ Its true, i think they use graphite or something like that for the core and Thermal Pads for the rest. I was pretty surprised at the time to use something else than Thermal Paste.
This card was just AMD prototyping a new cooler while simultaneously using up reject silicon from expensive datacentre gpus. remember prior to this they were using blowers on all their reference cards. also this card responds really really well to watercooling and undervolt/overclock similarly to the vega 56/64
RandomgaminginHD : the Radeon 7 eats around 20-21 AMPs via those two PCI EX connectors....for example my RM850X is able to deliver on max continuous of 14 AMPs / PCI cable. So you connected the daisychained PCI EX connector and use only 1 PCI EX cable. Unless you have a at least 1200 Watts PSU with relatively few connector, I know for a fact that you got lower results because you didnt use 2 cables. I also have a MSI Radeon 7 an I've tried it in borh combos on my RM 850X ans I did notice a difference as I do with many other GPU if an improper amount of current is being fed to them.
The stuttering in modern games you mentioned is due to DX12 shader caching. Depending on how it was created, the game needs to build and cache shaders to your drive. Some games do this the first time you boot it up, other games don't... And that's why you see the stuttering. The game is having to load and cache shaders on the fly, causing pauses. If a game has DX12/11/Vulkan support, you will only see the stuttering in DX12.
Loved my VII, I had replaced my old Zotac 1080ti with a VII after my 1080ti's third RMA. The card did great over all and even better when I water blocked it with EK parts. I ended up getting a 6900XT and putting the air cooler back on the VII it sat on my shelf for a year or so as I really liked it as a collectors item. Eventually it went to a friend in need who had no gpu in their build. I havnt seen it in forever, but I know its serving someone else and not just sitting. I hope to get it back one day and return it to my collection. I do miss my VII.
I bought 1 of these broken during the mining craze for $450. Though I got a deal until I got the card and it was basically bent in half. Never buy pc hardware with stock photos. Ended up drilling a hole in it to clear a short, and then had to reball the core. Booted it up, driver installed, and then I found out the hbm2 was dead. Shocker. The HBM2 on this card is extremely seen it I’ve. Not saying a bent board wouldn’t have caused this, but HbM2 failing on this and the Vega 56/64 is VERY common, and those cards were very good for mining at the time so the majority of these cards used will likely be dying or dead due to failed memory.
if you plan on keeping longterm , i would suggest replacing the thermal pad use on the main gpu with another or possibly thermal pasting it , since the card trends to run hot .. mine has overheated a couple of time in RDR 2 (was running at a rez of 3440*1440,with evrything pushed to maximum in video settings )
There is a way to get Sam enabled on the card. I just did it now on my radeon vii. Basically you download a registry and it enables it on amd official drivers
I was wondering about it. It might need a revisit on another video. How does it fare on your side ? @RandomGaminginHD are you aware of the registry tweak on guru3D forums ?
@railpao so far I'm still testing my games. Halo infinite I did see benefits for Sam. I got about 8 more fps in the campaign. I went from 67 fps to 75.
This is a nice looking card, love the design! Performs well too, but others are faster, quieter and use less power... But I have 2 Vega 64 cards and the driver issues I had lately make me wonder if I really should go for the RX6800XT what I had planned!
If you click the "Auto Undervolt" button in the Adreneline driver, it reduces the fan noise considerably without hurting the performance much at all. I have one of these in my gaming PC. I like it.
I think one of the problems with the performance of the card in this testings was the fact that you need to put 2 individual 8 pin power chords to the card (an individual cable can deliver up to 175w if I remember correctly + the 75w of the PCI-E motherboard, the Vega 64 could eat like 300w so... I guess this could be the same or even more) and the fact that you need to up the power limit of the card to the max to let her perform as much as it can, then you can play with the undervolt if you want to save some power and heat, but basically you need to plug 2 individual 8 pin cables and put the power limit to the max to let her perform the max she can, you should give her another try with this advices, and maybe as I said you could play a little bit with the UV settings! Great videos as always my friend.
I had a radeon VII in 2020 and 2021 and it was a good time. Its just that they were selling for so much used that it didnt make any sense to keep it. (Mainly due to miners buying them all).
@@solocamo3654 Yup. I had a 6900xt as well. Great card. To avoid depreciation, I sold it a while ago and bought a 6800xt instead, but even 6800xt performance is way more than I need. 1440p ultrawide just isn't that big of a challenge anymore. Maybe if 2160p gaming ultrawides become available, I'll upgrade, but for now the prices don't make any sense. Lets hope AMD and Nvidia learn their lesson, because I'm kinda over the "x percent better for x percent more money" thing.
@@b127_1 I was considering it, but I needed all the juice I could get for 4k. Almost pulled the trigger on a 7900XTX but like you said, the market is out of control to justify it.
Provided you can cool it, that card can actually overclock decently as well. I managed to get 2100MHz+ out of it with a relatively middling Bykski block, so that's an additional 15-20% more performance out of it when you combine it with a memory overclock
I really like the look of this card, I might save up for one and upgrade from an RX 5500 XT. It’s a subtle looking card without any “EPIC GAMER RGB” which I totally dig
This card costs much more than other options that provide the same (or better) performance (5700 XT, 6600, 6600 XT, RTX 3060, etc.), while using a lot more power and not being powerful enough to make much use of the 16gb frame buffer.
I have this card and bought it in December of 2019. Watercooled mine as well. It's still plenty great for davinci resolve. In cod I do struggle to play at low settings 3440x1440 and 110fps (refresh rate of my monitor.) That being said this card has aged well I think and the 16gb of vram will help it for another 4 years.
The Deadspace stuttering probably comes from DX12 being wonky, unfortunately it is like that sometimes. Though I doubt there was any driver optimization done for this card, either.
The upscaling bandaids slapped on games are due to the lack of performance being pushed out by our beloved gpu makers. Game optimization will help very little if the hardware, no matter how absurdly expensive (cough mid range 4080 for $1200) is built to show off new technology on old games (portal being the #1 example). The marketing angle is now to show you that you can now play dated games at extremely high frame rates with upscaling, but only if you buy the newest hardware. A couple of months go by after the cards release, and boom a handful of games drop that barely run on the new hardware without the upscaling crutch, and the hardware from a generation or 2 ago don’t even have enough vram to run the games without them being a stuttering mess.
My Vega 64 at 2560x1080 did great, however at 3440x1440 it struggled. Owned my GPU for 5 years then bought a 7900 XT to match my 5800x3d. P.S don't daisy chain pcie cables, my Vega 64 had issues when i did that.
I got this card near launch day and I really loved it. I didnt have many issues with drivers as others say, performance was good (better than the 2070 before) and with overclock I got really good results. Also frametimes were so stable for some reason and some games had amazing performance cause it just have so much power. Its a shame amd didnt continue with drivers, I miss it :(
I have a collection of the high end Radeons from 2002 to 2009(or 9700 Pro to HD 4890), I really like how they all look, but man, the VII is in my top 5 of good looking graphics cards, and if I had the money and shelf space, I'd definitely have that as one of the highlighted ones :D. Great video btw!
I always wanted one of these as well. It’s just something about the way it looks that was always striking. Hell I think it looks better than the reference 6000 series if you ask me.
I bought this in 2019 as it was a great card to fit inside my Node 304 mini ITX setup. Never mined anything with it, used for Maya/Blender and occasional gaming. It’s a beauty to look at too.
Vega Frontier Edition user here. My GPU no longer has gaming drivers support, but it used to have both gaming and pro drivers when it was released. I heard that Radeon Vll had monitor flicker issues caused by drivers back at the time. I guess I should be happy that my current GPU still works, but surely like Radeon Vll esthetics more
I have really been debating on getting one. I use a 2009 Mac Pro and for that reason for compatibility in macOS, I need a Vega or Polaris card. I have an RX 590 and it does great, but until I can afford to build a dedicated PC for gaming, I figured one of these would be my best choice. Thanks for posting this, hogwarts legacy and CP2077 were the two games I was mostly wanting to see this card in.
the stutters are caused by shared compilation, since new gen of consoles, the shader quality went up, but only couple of games pre-compile shaders leaving us with tons of stuttering. On second playthrough it should be better, but devs need to do better.
Ive had one.... Bought it for 750€, put it into my PC, was super unsatisfied....... It acted wierd in Games like WoW where i was getting like 30fps than 60fps and back to 30fps, so on and so on... In The Division 2 it was stable with maxed settings 1440p at 60fps but super loud.... I was so mad that within 2 hours of having it in my system, i was sending it back to Amazon whilke purchasing a MSI RTX 2080 Duke at the same time. Problems solved. The big 16GB HBM2.0 Memory would have come in handy in Video Edition, if any Edit software would support AMD cards. All in all, a huge disapointment for me. That was 2 weeks after its release, so i learned the hard way to never be a early adopter again, when it comes to AMD Products.
I bought 2 of these brand new and mined on them 24/7. They mined 90Mh/s on ethminer and sold the cards after 2 years of mining for more than I paid for the cards. They still ran great and they were a beast of a card.
Radeon VII was the last "GCN" card, I don't know why it performs relatively bad, the RX 580 held its place for a long period and had almost the same architecture. Maybe AMD didn't really wanted to support the card because they focused on the new RDNA cards. Who knows... it was a 7nm card with HBM memory so it should have been perform better IMO.
I still have my Radeon VII that I bought right around launch day. Just got around to water cooling it, so that should hope keep it alive for a long time.
VII is just a 20% underclocked 6800 both are 7nm, have 60 CUs, 16GB VRAM this card aged extremely well thanks to the VRAM unlike some of the newer stuttering 8GB offerings.........
Just a heads up, mining, especially when done properly, doesn't work a GPU as hard as normal gaming does. Also turning on MSAA when you're using 2160p is pointlessly putting extra strain on the performance
The 2019 "Driver issues" are gone as a 5700XT and RDNA 1 User myself for 3 years i love my AMD GPU. i love the fact that i paid under $400 for it and i love the fact that it's an alternative to spending $100 more for "Raytracing" and not Rasterization.
11:11 noice 👌 Glad to see you found one in the wild. I'm interested if this can beat your current gpu for editing rendering, etc, on Radeon Pro drivers
I bought one of these new and water cooled it for more professional workloads, clocks could approach 2GHz with water cooling and HBM2 frequency could increase as well. The HBM overclock tended to do far more for the computational performance but I wouldn't try it on air you do not want to burn out the HBM and the fan curve is more tuned for GPU hot spot temp. The factory air cooler was cool looking with 3 fans but very ineffective and loud.
Yay! You finally got one! This was my first ever GPU I owned in my first PC build back in early 2019. It was an underrated GPU imo (I'm now on the RX 6950 XT though)
I bought one at launch for 720€ and sold it last August for 800€. From that money I bought an RX 6950 XT for 799€. Had a great time with it and got a massive upgrade literally for free, what a great card!
I had similar stutters in Serious Sam 4 even though I have a 3080. I suspect the problem is developers are only using high-end SSD's, where most of us use what we can get away with. And perhaps even a gen3 SSD is not fast enough any more.
You are right Brother, Serious Sam Siberian Mayhem was lagging on 3900x + 6800xt at 4k with 16gb 4400mhz Ram and Pci Gen3 Drive. Once I upgraded to 32gb 3800 cl@14 with Pci Gen4 drive WD SN850X, the stutters were gone..
i had one of these cards when it launched up unti like 2021. preciously had a radeon vega64 liquid, and now have a radeon 6900xt. the vii was a great card for its time. 16gb of hbm made it great for pro workloads. if it werent for the noise and total lack of aib designs i'd totally get another one just because.
GREAT Card I wanted one sooo badly back in the day but was too expensive......then I got the RTX 2080. Last Christmas gift was a RTX 3090 and is AWERSOME ! Thanks great review
Pretty powerful and cool GPU... i somehow knew nothing about until now. Have you considered testing out modded drivers for this card? And i think there is also a workaround to enable SAM on this card.
I bought this card in 2019 to make a hackintosh build and I still use it today for macOS and windows gaming. I do like this card a lot and it still performs well. I just downloaded Hogwarts Legacy, hopefully it performs like you said it will
I made it work with Resizable Bar. Its not officialy supported. I had to get water cooling for it, as its stock cooler does lead to overheating. CB2077 - i played it on rather high settings, 1080p, later with FSR 2.1 on balanced. Hogwarts Legacy - All on ultra, FSR 2.1 on balanced, and it still looks amazing Witcher 3 - original on 4k on full, did not tested much NextGen update. Certain games such as CB2077 does not draw as much power as the card can deliver. CB seems to limit power consumption to 200 watts and less, while its capable of 300 watt power draw. In general on 4k I tend to turn off any forms of Antialiasing or use FSR instead of it. FSR is more effective technique,
Maybe something to mention. Your GPU power draw is in some titles around 140-170watts. That's seems to be not utilized completely. That's maybe engine related but worth a look up or at least a statement. Thank you for your testing it's really nice to see some older video cards. And regarding to those massive hikups (I have a v64) I see them a lot when memory or GPU is clocking down for whatever reason.
I wanted this card so much when it came out. It was like RAW power but in a chaotic unstable way that couldn't produce drivers to tame it correctly. Stil a beautiful looking card.
I just replaced my radeon VII, bought it new it's only been used for gaming, and honestly it still games, but i decided to replace it with a 7900 xtx, it will definitely go up in a display case i see the radeon VII as a "turning point" for Radeon/ati/AMD It will remain in my memory for years to come
The craziest thing about the video is the realisation of 2019 being 4 years ago.
Almost 4 years to the day since this card came out
Covid time was like a time warp..
Yeah bro it felt way to fast, crazy times
I always thought recent years went wayy too fast, glad to see i am not the only one.
@@jayruka2508 *let's do the time warp again*
Nah bruhhhh
I've done large parts of my PhD on the Radeon VII. We bought 10 of these at the price of 1 Nvidia V100 16GB, providing 10x the memory and performance. I've used them for computational fluid dynamics simulations.
Selling them when you’re done? They’re awesome for live visualizers like Magic Music Visualizer or Resolume.
What API did they use ?
Like how CUDA is on NVIDIA...
What is the response from AMD ?
@@xr.spedtech there is ROCm but is not as wildly adopted as CUDA
I've just ordered its professional sibling, called Instinct MI50. For $150. I have no idea why i may need this, but the price was too good to reject :)
@@xr.spedtech OpenCL is common
I always liked the way this card looked.
Yeah it’s a good looking beast
@@RandomGaminginHD so are you
@@danal8246 🧐
@@danal8246 ayo wtf
One of the best looking cards ever....I think AMD should offer their top tier cards in a limited edition that looks like this, i.e. a 6900XT that looks like this, a 7900XTX that looks like this, and an 8000 series that looks like this
The card was never a great performer vs its 2080 competition, but 16GB of VRAM in early 2019 was amazing. And the red shrouded anniversary edition is one of the best looking GPU shrouds of all time IMO.
I remember thinking the 16GB had to be a typo or something back in the day haha
Not just 16gb but 16gb hbm 🤤
depends what you can bring out of the system in which you put it. I honestly lOl at the occasional bad mouthing of certain hardware limitations and under 60 fps nonsense. Ive always been able to get 60+fps @ 1080p on high settings first with my gtx 1070, now with my rtx 2060 inside an aging 4th gen i7 setup. I read somewhere that comparative benchmarking is a sham, and should be taken with a pinch of salt. A simple way to test games is to switch up hardware, putting together odd configurations and stress testing them. Windows is a b***h too, as are certain in game engines.
@@mattBLACKpunk HBM2, even.
Hbm2 at that...which was so dumb lol
I've always found this era of Radeon cards to be so stylish. They really do look so well designed, like they should have a bookshelf of industrial/commercial design awards.
Hey the Radeon VII! This was my wife's GPU back then until she upgraded and she had a love hate relationship with it. It played pretty much any game she had at 1440p, but she had driver issues constantly. Looking forward to seeing it again.
Bro really got the gamer girl all the fortnite kids dream of
its better then a 1080, why upgrade
@El Cactuar 🤓
Driver issues? AMD? NEVER 😂
@El Cactuar faQ +got
The Radeon VII! I used to have one from late 2019 to early 2021. It definitely felt inefficient, all things considered, but it was cool to have! I ended up selling it for double the amount I had paid for it, so I was happy with how it ended for me
you sell it when the mining become popular?
It's bizarre to me how this card delivers RTX 3060 performance in some titles yet greatly exceeds it in others. The performance variation is wild.
Almost like the A770? *X-Files music*
This card really shines with dxvk and vulcan. I have pushed mine to the extremes and still kicks strongly in a ton of games. Personally I think most of the problems the card had was not being fully utilized with the drivers. It's a whole different beast under a vulcan api with around 35 to 50 percent in performance.
The 3060 is way faster in some, notably Cyberpunk, the RTX card can hold 75 on high, this can't even hold 60 on medium.
@@hungrymidget3896 Not true, lmao. A 5700 XT is faster than a 3060, and a Radeon 7 is faster than a 5700 XT
@@raresmacovei8382 The 3060 is factually a lot faster in Cyberpunk.
Always wanted one of these but never plucked up the courage especially after the initial issues the card had with the drivers. Pleased you found one at the right price, thanks for sharing 🙂
Thanks for watching. It’s a great card to tinker with but a lot of money to risk!
takes a heck of a psu to power it :D
G'day Bob,
Yeah one of these for the collection would be nice but as you & Steve said at the right $$$,
I just had a look on Ebay down here & the cheapest is $999AUD🤨, with a couple of people wanting $2250AUD & $2500AUD😱
Hope drunken bob finds one on sell 😂
@@shaneeslick how much would you want to pay for one I have one
Beautiful card, kinda crazy it has more VRAM than a 3080
Amd always was mire generous than nvidia in that regard... Even back in 2013 with the 290x 8gb model... Best nvidia had was 780 ti 3gb... They also had a 780 6gb but slower
@@nicane-9966 Nvidia is way too stingy with vram, to the point that they only give you more for SKUs that are otherwise too easily beaten by the AMD equivalent, such as when they increased the VRAM on the 2060 and 3060, but not on the higher end SKUs. The 3060 12GB had more VRAM than all of their GPUs up to 3080 Ti and later 3080 12gb.
It's because it's a data center computer card with a gaming cooler on it
@@deepspacecow2644 that's quite literally the same with nvidia though, they just put smaller ram chips on the cards and give them different drivers and higher clocks
@@nicane-9966AMD is better than Nvidia for me because of that I have 16 cores for less price than Intel cpus
The noise might be remedied by changing the thermal pad with thermal paste and use the washer mod. Currently have a Radeon VII on water so i've not tested the stock cooler in ages
I did the same mod to my 6800, and it’s 10C lower edge, and 7C lower junction.
If the fans bearings are the issue no thermal paste will help
When i saw those fans of Vega 7 in 2019 i knew it would be shrill. But such cooler mistakes are common for reference Radeon cards. Reference Vega 64 actually was not a bad card when you fixed AMD's mistake, which was thermal rather than noise pitch issues. Dremel bracket airflow mod plus better thermal paste stopped most of the clock throttling while retaining the soft woosh of the stock fan curve.
i love the radeon VII not because of it's preformance, but because of how cool it looks and how interesting it is with the hbm and being the first 7nm gpu.
same how i love the amd fury because of just how unique it is. i am currently running an r9 nano in my pc, and it runs all i want it to run. i love that little card with all it's power
Damn I miss my r9 fury nitro 😭
i rememeber my oncle having a saphire r9 fury damn that thing could mine and heat the room... he bought it for i think 200€ mined 6 months and sold it again for 200€ good days. but that thing was a beast, massive gpu.
you're a person after my own heart. Even if I get less frames I enjoy each frame more when I know I'm squeezing them out of some sort of funky card. Same reason I stuck with a watercooled r9 fury for a long time.
I am actually impressed that this card still pushes these games. Would be crazy to see like a 10 game comparison vs RTX 2080 in modern games!
Will u hug my fluffy batty?
Wasn't too long ago, especially for a flagship card. My 2080 still games great, so this thing should still be solid, driver issues aside
@@armando1is1great Back in the day, I hated AMD because of drivers. For some reason though, in 2018, I switched to AMD. Started at RX580. Then to 5700XT to 6700XT to 6800XT. I play a ton of games. Probably too many. I have had no show stopping driver bugs TBH. I know some people had black screen issues with HDMI a few years ago on the 5700XT. That was patched out by the time I got to that card. I do remember reading about Radeon VII having problems at launch though.
@@F1neW1ne yeah to be honest though all cards have problems at launch it is just a thing that happens that is why i for the most part don't get any thing new first day i always a few months before doing it just to make sure all the kinks are out.
The stuttering in newer games is caused by devs using UE4 and DX12 without compiling the game's shaders at the start, like they do with consoles. That leaves the GPU to compile the shaders on the fly, which is way slower than having them saved in the system. The only fix is that devs patch their games to compile them at the start or maybe Microsoft can forced them when using DX12.
Not the GPU, Unreal Engine compiles shaders on the CPU using the DirectX Compiler (DXC) or the HLSL Compiler (HLC) and it's done as part of the asset pipeline.
Man, what a clean and good-looking card, still one of my favorite designs
Thanks for covering the GPU I am currently using!
You could have tested the Amernime Drivers as well in order to activate SAM - in some titles it really gives you the edge especially in 1440p =)
Legacy SAM/ReBar works with official drivers too, no need for custum ones.
just paste this code in notepad and save it as .reg (not .txt)
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000]
"KMD_EnableReBarForLegacyASIC"=dword:00000001
"KMD_RebarControlMode"=dword:00000001
"KMD_RebarControlSupport"=dword:00000001
run, and add it to the registry, restart PC, enjoy 5-15% more fps.
Ayo LyGhT, Gex from Disc here! Completely agree try NimeZ drivers, really transform the card.. don't forget to undervolt!
Would be nice to see a follow-up video with the GPU undervolted and using Nimez Drivers (resizeable bar+RDNA driver optimizations) since that provides a boost in modern games.
Yes an updated tuned run would be very interesting, please do this.
I bought this GPU on launch ($700) and was able to buy a 6900 XT and pocket $500 by selling it during the mining craze. I'll never be able to do that again.
Vega 64 and radeon 7 were my dream cards. Upgraded from an rx580 (less than 200) to vega 64(£220) and the difference felt huge. Both bought new. Then after a month of buying the vega I've seen a new radeon 7 for £500. I was so pressed to buy it but i didn't. I'm glad that i didn't as for that money i bought a 3070ti last year. But amazing cards. They were good enough
yeah same the vega 56 and vega 64 and radeon VII where those cards i always dreamed off but they disappeared befor i could try and buy one and then mining came and there price went crazy high, it was that wierd gen of cards that launched and then went quiet and disappeared...
You're probably hurting right now tho with that paltry 8GB of VRAM.....
@@PoweredByLS2 yes and no. So at first i was a bit upset about it but then i remembered how huge my backlog is anyway. Also i thought about it and realised that in the future i can move this 3070ti in my itx and get a better card for my main rig.
But if i do that i obviously need to move this huge rig downstairs if i have a 4K tv or get rid of the 1080p monitors and get a 4K monitor...
So it isn't the end of the world. Besides i have 3 other devices to play on so.... most likely the 3070ti will die before i will feel its obsolescence as i don't play new games. I still haven't tried witcher 3 because i lack the time... i have red dead 2 installed since December 2021 and i am still at chapter 5... i wish i could play more but yeah...
Edit: adult life sucks but tending to responsibilities allows me to have all this tech. Hopefully i will have a kid that can use all this to its full potential and wear it out earlier so i can get new tech without feeling guilty for hoarding tech and not using it
@Barbus Bogdan Oh geez, your reply just hit me hard. I just upgraded to a shiny new 6950XT and 850 Watt PSU to drive it in order to get more FPS on my games that I rarely play due to life getting in the way. Haha
@@PoweredByLS2 yep that is the truth. It is sad but i guess this is what life is and if we want to live up to a certain standard and achieve some goals we need to play less and dedicate our time towards reaching those goals.
On the bright side i could always build a PC with the 3070 performance and be more than happy with it haha.
Fun fact: In Steam games on Linux, you don't get the DX12 and Vulkan shader compiler stuttering, because Valve distributes prefilled shader caches as part of their their SteamPlay project (the specific tech behind this is fossilize).
I know this is a gaming channel but it's probably worth mentioning that this card has 1:4 rate Double Precision compute resulting in 3.36 TFlops of FP64 compute performance. This is one of the best cards for Milkyway@Home if you're into volunteer computing.
This card is really torque-y if that makes sense. Can't really do 1080p 100fps+ in most games, but boy will it chug through games at 4k while maintaining a smooth 60fps. Probably all the Vram...
Bought this card on release. I still use this card. And they kept updating it frequently until 2023. Also AMD said they still have an update eventually just not as frequent anymore. It was definitely a beast card for it's time and is still a decent card to this day for 1440p games. Just saving up for the new gpus now but not having to upgrade for basically 5 years was a good investment in retrospect. Plus I get the added historical reference factor that this card had during it's hey day which was the crypto currency boom and bust. Meanwhile I just used mine for gaming. Probably going to put it in a display case one day once I build a new PC.
I was happy with my Radeon VII. I love the minimalist design, it is beautiful. Funnily enough, a couple weeks after I bought mine, they announced the Anniversary edition. I was tempted to do a return and get the red one.
I bought one, when AMD introduced something newer, so I got a discount. I use it for editing 4K and 6K movies. I capture in Blackmagic Raw, and use DaVinci Resolve. The 16 GBy Video Ram makes for smooth scrubbing, plus very quick export.
what codec do you render in?
I love seeing these rare beasts show up, and I totally get the collector’s item feel to it. I bought an r9 Nano a few years back for the same reason since I always wanted one back when they first came out. Great video!
An absolute unique card, I'm looking forward to testing it in the next new titles. In terms of this card volume, maybe the card needs a new thermal paste on the core? Just be careful with cleaning the thermal paste around the HBM2 memory, it's easy to damage the connections, it's better to leave it and wipe only the very top, just like on the core.
It doesn’t use thermal paste. It uses one of those thermal pads and a vapor chamber.
@@_B.C_ The Radeon 7 has memory chips in the gpu core, right next to core, so it uses the same thermal paste as you normally use for cpu and gpu.
@@werwito6723 not true. It doesn’t use thermal paste. Watch the gamers nexus tear down.
@@_B.C_ Its true, i think they use graphite or something like that for the core and Thermal Pads for the rest. I was pretty surprised at the time to use something else than Thermal Paste.
I used to watch you years ago and you had like 30k subs, and now about to hit 500k, awesome bro
This card was just AMD prototyping a new cooler while simultaneously using up reject silicon from expensive datacentre gpus. remember prior to this they were using blowers on all their reference cards. also this card responds really really well to watercooling and undervolt/overclock similarly to the vega 56/64
RandomgaminginHD : the Radeon 7 eats around 20-21 AMPs via those two PCI EX connectors....for example my RM850X is able to deliver on max continuous of 14 AMPs / PCI cable. So you connected the daisychained PCI EX connector and use only 1 PCI EX cable. Unless you have a at least 1200 Watts PSU with relatively few connector, I know for a fact that you got lower results because you didnt use 2 cables.
I also have a MSI Radeon 7 an I've tried it in borh combos on my RM 850X ans I did notice a difference as I do with many other GPU if an improper amount of current is being fed to them.
The stuttering in modern games you mentioned is due to DX12 shader caching. Depending on how it was created, the game needs to build and cache shaders to your drive. Some games do this the first time you boot it up, other games don't... And that's why you see the stuttering. The game is having to load and cache shaders on the fly, causing pauses. If a game has DX12/11/Vulkan support, you will only see the stuttering in DX12.
FINALLY.
Ive been waiting for years for someone to re-visit it.
Loved my VII, I had replaced my old Zotac 1080ti with a VII after my 1080ti's third RMA. The card did great over all and even better when I water blocked it with EK parts. I ended up getting a 6900XT and putting the air cooler back on the VII it sat on my shelf for a year or so as I really liked it as a collectors item. Eventually it went to a friend in need who had no gpu in their build. I havnt seen it in forever, but I know its serving someone else and not just sitting. I hope to get it back one day and return it to my collection. I do miss my VII.
I bought 1 of these broken during the mining craze for $450. Though I got a deal until I got the card and it was basically bent in half. Never buy pc hardware with stock photos. Ended up drilling a hole in it to clear a short, and then had to reball the core. Booted it up, driver installed, and then I found out the hbm2 was dead. Shocker. The HBM2 on this card is extremely seen it I’ve. Not saying a bent board wouldn’t have caused this, but HbM2 failing on this and the Vega 56/64 is VERY common, and those cards were very good for mining at the time so the majority of these cards used will likely be dying or dead due to failed memory.
if you plan on keeping longterm , i would suggest replacing the thermal pad use on the main gpu with another or possibly thermal pasting it , since the card trends to run hot .. mine has overheated a couple of time in RDR 2 (was running at a rez of 3440*1440,with evrything pushed to maximum in video settings )
I recently installed a Morpheus II cooler on mine, and it stopped overheating completely.
Ah man I absolutely loved the look of this card! I wish more GPUs went with this simple yet sleek styling
There is a way to get Sam enabled on the card. I just did it now on my radeon vii. Basically you download a registry and it enables it on amd official drivers
I was wondering about it. It might need a revisit on another video.
How does it fare on your side ?
@RandomGaminginHD are you aware of the registry tweak on guru3D forums ?
@railpao so far I'm still testing my games. Halo infinite I did see benefits for Sam. I got about 8 more fps in the campaign. I went from 67 fps to 75.
@@bryanwages3518 Interesting. It might help on the 1% and 0.1% low too.
Have fun with your testing
AMD should keep the Red R Cube for all their Founder Edition card. beautiful pattern seriously
I so want that graphics card 😃
Don't know why but I've always loved these.
This is a nice looking card, love the design! Performs well too, but others are faster, quieter and use less power... But I have 2 Vega 64 cards and the driver issues I had lately make me wonder if I really should go for the RX6800XT what I had planned!
If you click the "Auto Undervolt" button in the Adreneline driver, it reduces the fan noise considerably without hurting the performance much at all.
I have one of these in my gaming PC. I like it.
Oh nice I’ll have to check that out thanks
You should do the Vega 64 card it’s price is only around $100 now!!! It could be an insane budge card!
It seems to be a trap.Those things chug power and were the best miners in 2 mining booms.They most likely are on their last legs.
Cheapest in the UK is £140. About the same price as a GTX 1070 Ti.
Flashed vega 56s way better as they use a lot less power for almost the same performance
I think one of the problems with the performance of the card in this testings was the fact that you need to put 2 individual 8 pin power chords to the card (an individual cable can deliver up to 175w if I remember correctly + the 75w of the PCI-E motherboard, the Vega 64 could eat like 300w so... I guess this could be the same or even more) and the fact that you need to up the power limit of the card to the max to let her perform as much as it can, then you can play with the undervolt if you want to save some power and heat, but basically you need to plug 2 individual 8 pin cables and put the power limit to the max to let her perform the max she can, you should give her another try with this advices, and maybe as I said you could play a little bit with the UV settings! Great videos as always my friend.
If you could next time test it in RTS games, something heavily computed that might be what this card could shine in
no reason not to test it next week on COH 3
My brother is running one of these. Bought it brand new and has been happy with the performance. He has his undervolted.
I had a radeon VII in 2020 and 2021 and it was a good time. Its just that they were selling for so much used that it didnt make any sense to keep it. (Mainly due to miners buying them all).
Sold mine and it more than paid for an already above MSRP 6900XT
@@solocamo3654 Yup. I had a 6900xt as well. Great card. To avoid depreciation, I sold it a while ago and bought a 6800xt instead, but even 6800xt performance is way more than I need. 1440p ultrawide just isn't that big of a challenge anymore. Maybe if 2160p gaming ultrawides become available, I'll upgrade, but for now the prices don't make any sense. Lets hope AMD and Nvidia learn their lesson, because I'm kinda over the "x percent better for x percent more money" thing.
@@b127_1 I was considering it, but I needed all the juice I could get for 4k. Almost pulled the trigger on a 7900XTX but like you said, the market is out of control to justify it.
Provided you can cool it, that card can actually overclock decently as well. I managed to get 2100MHz+ out of it with a relatively middling Bykski block, so that's an additional 15-20% more performance out of it when you combine it with a memory overclock
I really like the look of this card, I might save up for one and upgrade from an RX 5500 XT. It’s a subtle looking card without any “EPIC GAMER RGB” which I totally dig
That would be an extremely bad buy but the allure of the exotic card is undeniable...
Or just get a 6600
@@WayStedYou but I want a Radeon vii
This card costs much more than other options that provide the same (or better) performance (5700 XT, 6600, 6600 XT, RTX 3060, etc.), while using a lot more power and not being powerful enough to make much use of the 16gb frame buffer.
@@yasu_red but the Radeon VII looks cool
I have this card and bought it in December of 2019. Watercooled mine as well. It's still plenty great for davinci resolve. In cod I do struggle to play at low settings 3440x1440 and 110fps (refresh rate of my monitor.) That being said this card has aged well I think and the 16gb of vram will help it for another 4 years.
The Deadspace stuttering probably comes from DX12 being wonky, unfortunately it is like that sometimes. Though I doubt there was any driver optimization done for this card, either.
Driver for it only dropped today
The upscaling bandaids slapped on games are due to the lack of performance being pushed out by our beloved gpu makers. Game optimization will help very little if the hardware, no matter how absurdly expensive (cough mid range 4080 for $1200) is built to show off new technology on old games (portal being the #1 example). The marketing angle is now to show you that you can now play dated games at extremely high frame rates with upscaling, but only if you buy the newest hardware. A couple of months go by after the cards release, and boom a handful of games drop that barely run on the new hardware without the upscaling crutch, and the hardware from a generation or 2 ago don’t even have enough vram to run the games without them being a stuttering mess.
My Vega 64 at 2560x1080 did great, however at 3440x1440 it struggled. Owned my GPU for 5 years then bought a 7900 XT to match my 5800x3d.
P.S don't daisy chain pcie cables, my Vega 64 had issues when i did that.
Could you try it to run AI models like llama-3.1-70B?
The 16g of HBM2 memory could make it a great value at ~300€
I got this card near launch day and I really loved it. I didnt have many issues with drivers as others say, performance was good (better than the 2070 before) and with overclock I got really good results. Also frametimes were so stable for some reason and some games had amazing performance cause it just have so much power.
Its a shame amd didnt continue with drivers, I miss it :(
it supports the ones released literally today what are you talking about
@@AncientED5 But no improvements at all for vega, it gets randomly really bad performance in some new games cause they dont care about it
@@ElRubio864 I wouldn't call the performance in the video bad lol edit: other than dead space, but idk if that was the card or something else
I have a collection of the high end Radeons from 2002 to 2009(or 9700 Pro to HD 4890), I really like how they all look, but man, the VII is in my top 5 of good looking graphics cards, and if I had the money and shelf space, I'd definitely have that as one of the highlighted ones :D. Great video btw!
I loved the 200 series OEM Nvidia cards.
Radeon VII 👍
I had a radeon vii and I loved that bad boy it was really fun to play with. Surprisingly it's very efficient as you can see mostly under 225 watts.
You can get the TDP down to 180 watts for the same exact performance. You can also get graphite pads to cool it better and the fan won't go above 40%
I always wanted one of these as well. It’s just something about the way it looks that was always striking. Hell I think it looks better than the reference 6000 series if you ask me.
I've waited so long for you to review the radeon vii, it's one of my wishlist, great video 👍🏻
Thank you, it’s been on my list for a while too
Almost at 500k bro! keep up the great work:)
I bought this in 2019 as it was a great card to fit inside my Node 304 mini ITX setup. Never mined anything with it, used for Maya/Blender and occasional gaming. It’s a beauty to look at too.
Vega Frontier Edition user here. My GPU no longer has gaming drivers support, but it used to have both gaming and pro drivers when it was released. I heard that Radeon Vll had monitor flicker issues caused by drivers back at the time. I guess I should be happy that my current GPU still works, but surely like Radeon Vll esthetics more
Those frontier editions look awesome too!
I have really been debating on getting one. I use a 2009 Mac Pro and for that reason for compatibility in macOS, I need a Vega or Polaris card. I have an RX 590 and it does great, but until I can afford to build a dedicated PC for gaming, I figured one of these would be my best choice. Thanks for posting this, hogwarts legacy and CP2077 were the two games I was mostly wanting to see this card in.
Oh you've finally got it. That's a seriously beautiful card right there
I was one of the first 10 buyers of the Radeon VII and I received a hand written note from Lisa Su in my package.
the stutters are caused by shared compilation, since new gen of consoles, the shader quality went up, but only couple of games pre-compile shaders leaving us with tons of stuttering. On second playthrough it should be better, but devs need to do better.
This and Zwormz Gaming are some of the best PC gaming channels. I appreciate how you make videos on the older GPUs
Thanks :) I’m a big fan of zwormz myself too
Ive had one.... Bought it for 750€, put it into my PC, was super unsatisfied....... It acted wierd in Games like WoW where i was getting like 30fps than 60fps and back to 30fps, so on and so on... In The Division 2 it was stable with maxed settings 1440p at 60fps but super loud.... I was so mad that within 2 hours of having it in my system, i was sending it back to Amazon whilke purchasing a MSI RTX 2080 Duke at the same time. Problems solved. The big 16GB HBM2.0 Memory would have come in handy in Video Edition, if any Edit software would support AMD cards. All in all, a huge disapointment for me. That was 2 weeks after its release, so i learned the hard way to never be a early adopter again, when it comes to AMD Products.
I bought 2 of these brand new and mined on them 24/7. They mined 90Mh/s on ethminer and sold the cards after 2 years of mining for more than I paid for the cards. They still ran great and they were a beast of a card.
Radeon VII was the last "GCN" card, I don't know why it performs relatively bad, the RX 580 held its place for a long period and had almost the same architecture. Maybe AMD didn't really wanted to support the card because they focused on the new RDNA cards. Who knows... it was a 7nm card with HBM memory so it should have been perform better IMO.
I still have my Radeon VII that I bought right around launch day. Just got around to water cooling it, so that should hope keep it alive for a long time.
Thanks you m8 for your effort making all this epics videos.
VII is just a 20% underclocked 6800
both are 7nm, have 60 CUs, 16GB VRAM
this card aged extremely well thanks to the VRAM unlike some of the newer stuttering 8GB offerings.........
Just a heads up, mining, especially when done properly, doesn't work a GPU as hard as normal gaming does. Also turning on MSAA when you're using 2160p is pointlessly putting extra strain on the performance
The 2019 "Driver issues" are gone as a 5700XT and RDNA 1 User myself for 3 years i love my AMD GPU. i love the fact that i paid under $400 for it and i love the fact that it's an alternative to spending $100 more for "Raytracing" and not Rasterization.
thats a beast of a GPU, ownd it since 2019 works fine, had to replace the fans. my only issue is with the VRAM it get hot so fast
11:11 noice 👌 Glad to see you found one in the wild. I'm interested if this can beat your current gpu for editing rendering, etc, on Radeon Pro drivers
what codec
I bought one of these new and water cooled it for more professional workloads, clocks could approach 2GHz with water cooling and HBM2 frequency could increase as well. The HBM overclock tended to do far more for the computational performance but I wouldn't try it on air you do not want to burn out the HBM and the fan curve is more tuned for GPU hot spot temp. The factory air cooler was cool looking with 3 fans but very ineffective and loud.
i've wanted one of these since they came out, but only recently was able to acquire one. So far i love it
Yay! You finally got one! This was my first ever GPU I owned in my first PC build back in early 2019. It was an underrated GPU imo (I'm now on the RX 6950 XT though)
I bought one at launch for 720€ and sold it last August for 800€. From that money I bought an RX 6950 XT for 799€. Had a great time with it and got a massive upgrade literally for free, what a great card!
I had similar stutters in Serious Sam 4 even though I have a 3080. I suspect the problem is developers are only using high-end SSD's, where most of us use what we can get away with. And perhaps even a gen3 SSD is not fast enough any more.
You are right Brother, Serious Sam Siberian Mayhem was lagging on 3900x + 6800xt at 4k with 16gb 4400mhz Ram and Pci Gen3 Drive. Once I upgraded to 32gb 3800 cl@14 with Pci Gen4 drive WD SN850X, the stutters were gone..
i had one of these cards when it launched up unti like 2021. preciously had a radeon vega64 liquid, and now have a radeon 6900xt. the vii was a great card for its time. 16gb of hbm made it great for pro workloads. if it werent for the noise and total lack of aib designs i'd totally get another one just because.
One of the best looking cards of all time
GREAT Card I wanted one sooo badly back in the day but was too expensive......then I got the RTX 2080. Last Christmas gift was a RTX 3090 and is AWERSOME ! Thanks great review
Pretty powerful and cool GPU... i somehow knew nothing about until now.
Have you considered testing out modded drivers for this card? And i think there is also a workaround to enable SAM on this card.
Yeah, with amernime modded drivers, you can enable SAM on virtually all gpus...
I bought this card in 2019 to make a hackintosh build and I still use it today for macOS and windows gaming. I do like this card a lot and it still performs well. I just downloaded Hogwarts Legacy, hopefully it performs like you said it will
Always loved the design of this cooler.
Forza Horizon 5 performance never ceases to amaze me and I think I’ve said that as many times you said respectable. 😅
I made it work with Resizable Bar. Its not officialy supported. I had to get water cooling for it, as its stock cooler does lead to overheating.
CB2077 - i played it on rather high settings, 1080p, later with FSR 2.1 on balanced.
Hogwarts Legacy - All on ultra, FSR 2.1 on balanced, and it still looks amazing
Witcher 3 - original on 4k on full, did not tested much NextGen update.
Certain games such as CB2077 does not draw as much power as the card can deliver. CB seems to limit power consumption to 200 watts and less, while its capable of 300 watt power draw.
In general on 4k I tend to turn off any forms of Antialiasing or use FSR instead of it. FSR is more effective technique,
Maybe something to mention. Your GPU power draw is in some titles around 140-170watts. That's seems to be not utilized completely. That's maybe engine related but worth a look up or at least a statement. Thank you for your testing it's really nice to see some older video cards. And regarding to those massive hikups (I have a v64) I see them a lot when memory or GPU is clocking down for whatever reason.
I wanted this card so much when it came out. It was like RAW power but in a chaotic unstable way that couldn't produce drivers to tame it correctly. Stil a beautiful looking card.
I really hope you hold on to it. What a simple yet elegant looking card. And twice as obscure.
I remember asking for this such a long time ago. so excited :O
never let that card go. its design is so straight laced its a classic to cherish until the end of time. =)
One of the bigger issues with the VII is the HBM tends to nuke itself during load. happened to myself and others
I just replaced my radeon VII, bought it new it's only been used for gaming, and honestly it still games, but i decided to replace it with a 7900 xtx, it will definitely go up in a display case i see the radeon VII as a "turning point" for Radeon/ati/AMD It will remain in my memory for years to come
Stutters in dead space is because of denuvo. Cancer of a drm that makes extremely aggressive checks that skyrockets cpu usage.