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This catamaran looks just amazing 😍👍🏼👍🏼⛵️ I can’t wait see you in Delos 2.0 ❤️👌🏼 I guess you have talked to your fellow sailors and vloggers at Sailing la Vagabonde, the Australian couple Riley and Elayna that has also gone from monohull to a catamaran, and have a long experience with it, before they went with their trimaran.
Wow, looking a some of those comments, you seem to have rattled the nay sayers nest. Dont listen to them. You do what you want, we will watch and support your channel.
Hello . I am a retired welder. I have a life time of experiences with structural , Pressure welding an millwrighting . Thought about this for awhile. Think the best plan might be to help design the interior, the sail plan , rigging , systems . Then leave the building of the hull to the experts . That way you can still be making sailing content with Delos , in till you jump on the new boat . Your sailing content I think is why you are the best sailing channel. Not that you could not complete a vessel yourself, but I think it would be overwhelming building an making the content . Just my thoughts . Excited to see what your future brings you 👍
Yes, I totally agree with @deweerd3155. Having done this for many years restoring cars, it will take a ton of intellectual and emotional energy. I'm sure Brian will reach out to some of the builders who have blazed this trail already and see how this commitment will impact his family.
I agree as well. Managing a project this size will be a full time and a half job. I would love to follow the building of a new boat design with innovative features on You-tube. Tally Ho is turning out way better than I every thought it would.
After watching you work in Delos over the years, I’d recommend buying a bare hull and decks, like that boat is now, and then fitting it out yourself, so you then know all the systems onboard. That would be more valuable than learning how to weld.
The hull is about 40% of the cost, but more than 50% of the build time, and I think it's a really good idea to let the pros manufacture the hull, and do the rest of it.
@@charonstyxferrymanI’ve built som boats, which were mainly racing epoxy/ glass trimarans, meaning barely any interior and sophisticated rigs. Still the calculations come out way worse than even your estimate. Making the hulls and platform structures was typically less than 10% of purchase cost and far less than 10% of total building time. Adaptions and details take a LOT of time. The vast number of things to buy for fitting out makes for a big bill. Especially a good sailing rig racks up costs at an alarming rate.
Agreed fit out an existing hull and decks would be a far more manageable and realistic goal to aim for that building an entire boat from scratch with zero knowledge and experience in boat building.
Guys we love you!!!! I built a lot of things, fixed a few boats, worked with wood and metals and all kinds of equipment. Here is what I think :-). Do not bury yourself in a project of that magnitude. I have no doubts you can do it, but the world needs you as the most interesting adventurers out there. I understand that you want to build it your way so get into a half built boat or retrofit some solid hull. From scratch… will take years, it will take a toll on your health welding metal and sanding tons of interior, spraying horrible finishes, the situation can change with your loved ones, also especially these days when the prices of material become unaffordable…and we need you to travel more amazing places. Spend a year or two, not more. Sorry, I’m being honest because we truly love you guys.
"the world needs you as the most interesting adventurers out there" They should do things for themselves and not based on random people rather wanting to see them sail... Maybe they want/need a break from the ocean and Sierra getting a few years of regular school is not a bad thing.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I don't think a home-built 63' aluminum catamaran is something to be taken lightly even by someone with tons of experience with welding/fabrication and/or boat building. Getting from zero to successful completion on this may take more than you have to give to it.
Very well said! A project like this would end with selling a half built boat, bankruptcy, then the big D! We all Love you and want the best for you all!👍👍👍
I highly recommend that you have the metal CNC pre-cut and have a professional builder with experience with aluminum hull fabrication) build the hull for you. You can then build out the interior (wiring, systems, cabinets, paint, ...) yourself. With your technical skills that should be feasible (I am sure you will get lots of help). Fabricating an aluminum hull requires a shit load of trade skills. Aluminum warps like crazy when applying heat from welding. I am sure you found Plukky's Elcano videos and "Distant Shores". If you still consider doing it yourself, start by building an aluminum dinghy. There are plans for that available for purchase. The only problem I see with having the hull build for you is that you will most likely will need to finish the boat in the same location (or close by) as where you have the hull built. I assume cost is important for you, so you would have to use a hull builder from cheaper places like Vietnam, Thailand or Philippines. And shipping an unfinished hull to a different part of the world is going to be expensive.
I restored a hurricane damaged boat, like Colin (but a Leopard 48) and it took me about 18-22months, in Antigua. I'm also a software guy like you Brian, and only did (alot) of youtube before. But building from scratch is a whole other level. You really wanna spend 4-5 years on land? Have you seen what Plucky is doing? (sailing into freedom). I would suggest you do something similar, just be heavily involved rather than doing it all yourself. It's sooooo much work.
I have been full expecting B&K to give up their salty ways when Sierra reached school age. I figured they'd sell off Delos and take up with MorMor in Sweden until the child was maybe 18 and in college. So this is a whole new ball game opening up here and I'm surprised and excited for them. Good luck with your new vessel, Guys!
As someone who has done high latitude sailing for 33 years, I can tell you that you're on the right track with an aluminum catamaran. I've travel to very remote places on aluminum jetboats that only have a 4" draft and can basically operate in less than a half foot of water. Been in them in really bad weather here in Alaska, where the hull was just slamming and pounding into big storm driven waves and the boat just eats this type of weather up like it's nothing. I would worry less about the hull than I would the mounts on the engine, it's that tough! That said, and based on years of traveling to fjords and glaciers, I would look for the following in your new boat: 1. Combination of wind and solar for power generation. High latitudes are known for cloudy weather. I live in a temperate rain forest, so go w/ solar cells that are shade resistant, and get two wind generators. When it's dark here, the wind still blows and we get a good amount of wind most of the time. 2. Skeg hung rudder. The yacht in your video has the prop shaft and prop coming out of the hull between the skeg and the rudder. Perfect. Add a folding prop and you're golden. In icy areas, some small bergs and/or submerged logs will impact the hull and having the protection of the skeg for both the rudder and the prop and shaft will ensure protection for both. Because of our high tides, we can have a lot of flotsam in the water during different times of the year. 3. Watertight bulkheads, forward. Between the boat's bow and forward cabin, there should be a watertight bulkhead, in case of collision. Also, perhaps bulkheads in the stern between engine rooms and interior space. 4. Very good insulation. Not only for cold weather and interior heat but also for hot weather sailing, to help keep the interior at the perfect temp, year 'round, no matter the outside weather might be. The insulation will also help keep humidity down on the inside of the boat because it moves the dew point closer to the outside of the hull, rather than inside of it. 5. Hanging locker for foul weather gear. Heated if possible. Drains to bilge, etc... 6. Full cockpit enclosure. Makes the cockpit into an extra room that can be used even in cold weather. My cockpit is half enclosed and the heat rises out of the salon and heats that area up nicely. Plus, it's nice on rainy days to sit out in the cockpit w/out worrying about the wind and rain making it miserable! 7. Hard bottom RIB. I believe Maggie is hard bottomed. You'll need that to get close to glaciers and to land on remote beaches. Wish I had one. Also important if you're using it as a lifeboat because if you need to get to shore but it's a rocky shore, a hard bottom RIB stands a better chance of withstanding the beating than other options. Also, some dinghy wheels because the tides in Alaska and other places can vary up to 24', so if it's a flood tide and you want to get the dink up the beach, the wheels come in real handy! That's about all I can think of, but I'm sure there's more. Garcia yachts makes a nice 54' aluminum cat but it has saildrives and I wouldln't use those in areas where logs and ice might be in the water. I'm sure there's a manufacturer out there who will let you be part of the build process and wish you luck in your search!
David de Villiers has some great designs and Nahoa's 55 looks amazing. But, have a capable yard build it and you can have input along the way. I've been following you since day one, but not keen on watching another channel doing a 3-5 year DIY boat build. Do what you do best- travel to amazing places and let us follow along. Leave the boat build to the the pros!
A project like this takes an enormous amount of emotional and physical energy and stamina. The same energy required to equip, prepare for and carry out ocean expeditions only more gruelling. It's likely to take at least five years if you remain 100% committed to it. You only have so much of this energy and this could be very draining for you. I know you will be thinking of this but having been through this myself, I would suggest you save your energy for sailing and get someone else to do most of the building. You can be very involved but being able to take time out to sail and enjoy your family and know that the project is still moving ahead is really valuable. Whatever you choose, good luck
I feel sad for the Delos 1.0 because it has all, I mean ALL of the amazing memories which includes all people that the boat went with thousand of nautical miles, and baby Nugs grew there for the first 4 years of her life... but, it's amazing that you GROW in all technical, relationships, and intellectual sense. We're also excited for you. Let's go Delos 2.0!!!
Delos 1.0 will be welded into Delos 2.0 in some form or fashion. There's no way there's no part of the original Delos, an important part, into Delos 2.0
Constructing your own boat from scratch is, IMO, absolutely mental. There are SO MANY fantastic boat designers out there working that have the manufacturing to back it up. I would never dream of building from scratch. From being on a couple cats, I can see several issues with this vessel already. Like there are no rear docking helms and there is no sail visibility from inside the covered wheel house. Good luck, this is a monumental challenge.
100% mental. It’s counterproductive for them, their channel. Obviously they feel they have something to prove. Will be interesting to see if they continue. Harder to bail the longer it drags on. The majority audience won’t tolerate it for long. Hardcore fans will be stretched. Everyone comes here for adventure and eye candy. This is neither. I hope it’s worth the loss in the end. I’m out. I’ll come back to laugh though!
@@johnqdoe I'm sure they're well aware of how this'll cause loss of subscribers. It's their choice to prioritise some social variety for their nugs. They'll still be living a new chapter of the dream, and will certainly pick up subscribers with boat-fitting dreams.
I also get a kick watching them. But I agree it is crazy to design and build a boat themselves. That is not something you 1 day wake up and master, being a SERIOUS safety issue.
I have had the experience building two 65' monohulls. One in the UK and one in USA RI. From lofting to completion both took more or less 18 months to luanch. Both went approx 30% over budget. You can't do it alone unless you have a lifetime or so to do it. Find the right help. Be sure to be in a place where there is a boatbuilding culture. My take away is never take short cuts and never lose sight of the big picture. Obvious right? Good luck!
Brian, we met in Grenada 5 years ago when you came up to Grenada hang with Rick Moore. Lori and I got married on Rick's boat that winter. Not to sure if I told you back then that I've now been an aluminum boat builder for 43 years. I applaud your desire to build your next boat. I will say there is so, so much to know and learn about boat building. So many talents are required and you already possess many of them. Keep your knowledgeable resources close. I'm sure many would love to offer up some guidance and how to get to your ends. After 43 years in the biz, I'm now looking at retiring from the craft that I so loved and worked passionately at through my life. My life long dream has been to get a sail boat and see the world like you have done. I wish you well in this new chapter in completing Delos 2.0. By the time you have completed your new build, you will def be ready to get back on the water to enjoy your creation. The best way to know your boat, is to just build it. Fair winds on this next journey.....
Hi Bill, what solution do alum hull designs employ to deal with surface heat from sun in hot climates? Is it just as simple as a few extra coats of paint? Thx
What I've seen done is, during the build is to spray a urethane foam in the in-between all the hull and deck frames and virtually cover and coat the hull material from the inside. This insulation method not only helps with keeping the boat warm in cold climates, but also cool in hot climates. As for the exterior deck plate, I believe there is a product you can paint on the deck to reduce the surface temp and there is also some sheet products that can be glued onto the deck to help with reducing the surface temp as well as add some non-skid properties and a nice look to the deck. I hope this helps.
Problem from the point of a Channelviewer: In the beginning it is fun to watch the learning and building process then it becomes more and more boring to see 1000times of cutting, welding, grinding, building. Making is the repetition of the same day by day. That is a big difference to boat projects there a fun to watch because u can learn, dream and there is a end on the horizion. But build a boot is a very long long travel with lots of boring parts. No Water views, no Sunshine, no Beach, no Palmtrees, no wind, no Waves, no sails just dirt. My guess after 3 month of boot building videos they will start to lose viewers.
@@stefans.3940I'm not convinced. I've been watching Tally Ho build from keel up every week for like 4 years. If you focus on different projects, it doesn't get boring. That said, what they will probably see is a change in who is watching.
Most people just sit at their computer and never take any substantial risk in their life. This channel is here because of risk (adventure) they taken. If the end result is a more comfortable and capable boat for their family, the viewer count will grow and grow over time. This is their life and home, not just a UA-cam channel.
@@dannyarcher6370 The difference with Tally Ho, is that you are watching various skilled tradesmen creating a glorious wooden vessel. That is not the same as watching a youtuber sand, fair, sand, fair for an eternity. Even if Delos 2, decided to be aluminium, that is not riveting viewing. I haven't watched an episode of MJ sailing in over a year(maybe two) because it's just not interesting to me. Various projects that are relatable, fine, but 99% of us will never build a boat because we don't want to and would rather sail.
I have a lot of experience working in machine shops that do a lot of fabrication, and I must say; I'm not sure you guys fully understand just how massive this project will be. This is a year long project for a shipyard dedicated to building custom aluminum hulls. A shipyard with dozens of skilled tradesmen, and millions of dollars of very expensive equipment. They have waterjets, sheet metal shapers, overhead gantry cranes, CNC milling machines, large hydraulic sheet metal brakes, and multiple $5,000 welders, and it still would take them a year or more to complete the build. This guy who built this thing took how long to build the first one? And he's an expert with this kind of stuff. I really think you aught to consider having at least the hull built at a shipyard. I do believe you have the skills necessary to finish out the rest of the boat, but that hull is going to be such a daunting task that I fear you'll give up on it.
Motion sickness is a huge consideration for those who spend a lot of time on the water. This is certainly a fantastic boat designed for serious offshore expeditions in some of the harshest ocean environments on the planet. My suggestion though would be to spend some time living on a catamaran before taking a very large plunge into a vessel like this. Cats and monohulls have a very different motion on the ocean and for some people, it can be a very difficult adjustment going from one to the other. Regardless, aluminum has been and will continue to be the material of choice for those seeking a serious ocean going expeditionary vessel. The material is strong, lightweight, predictable under a variety of stresses and loads, and can be readily repaired in contrast to modern carbon fiber and composite alternatives.
Couldn't agree more. There is a channel called 'Steve Lehto," or 'Lehto's Law,.' He is a lawyer who practices in "Lemon Law" in Michigan and has done several videos and is adamantly against buying a new RV. Watch him, he is very good and will tell you of the many drawbacks to buying a brand new RV. He believes that if you want to buy an RV you should rent one and keep it for a week or two or ten ...and then consider buying a used one. You have to watch him to get where I want to go with this thought.. I think you are right that the new buyers should spend time on a catamaran, two or three months, before making up their minds. They should sail in all types of weather. Get Delos to Australia, rent a catamaran and circumnavigate Australia. Let's see where you are then.
@@dirkharvey As someone who has spent time on both, your assumption is not accurate. The most significant issue is the person's sensitivity to different types and intensities of motion. Beyond that, catamarans experience twice the amount of pitching/rolling per broadside wave than mono hulls. While some reduction in overall vertical movement can be achieved with a catamaran if you're located exactly between the two hulls, some people can be more sensitive to abrupt motion shifts than raw distance of displacement in any given direction. For them, it's more unsettling on a catamaran when one hull is moving in a given direction and the other hull suddenly shifts into a different direction since the craft is effectively being agitated by two separate inputs simultaneously.
@@dirkharvey Going to weather (sailing upwind) in a cat can be tough. Once the seas are big enough to start slamming into that bridge deck, no matter how rounded it is, the motion will be much jerkier and more uncomfortable than a monohull. Another issue with cats, although this one is probably strong enough to take it, is the challenge of trying to slow down enough in heavy following winds and seas. If they get going too fast down a big wave they can "stuff the bows". Not good. Having said all of that, this is an amazing boat and most sailors would be proud to own her. I agree that the best route would be to have a reputable builder complete the bulk of the aluminum work. Still learn to weld aluminum by doing your own davits, stanchions, handrails, hold-downs etc. so you can modify/repair as you go. Pre-fab sections of the interior, for installation after insulation/interior skinning, so that you still have content and can cut the timeline down considerably. Definitely do it if you can!
Plucky is buildinng a cat from scratch in Vietnamm. There's whole crew going at it as we speak and it's coing along fairly quickly. Doing the whole thing by yourself from the start...man-oh-man! - that's a hell of an undertaking.
For some reason I thought he was in Greece, I’m glad you were here!! It was the first thing that I thought about too when I realized they were looking at Aluminum Catamarans. Thanks!
I've been following Delos for years. Mostly silently, with an occasional comment. This new chapter in your life's adventure sounds just perfect, for you guys and for those of us who follow you. Cannot wait to see what comes next. Thanks for sharing.
Dear Delos long long time follower. So take this with the love it is sent with. You are out of your every loving mind if you take on that project. Welding Aluminum is a sub set of welding which is not an easily acquired skill. You are looking at welding for 8 hours day for 3-5 years. We have a friend who travels threw out the Midwest welding Aluminum power station for electrical companies. He travels not because there is not welders in those locations but because he is welding Aluminum which he has been for 30 years. You will not acquire that skill running a few beads on a workbench table. Brian you were right when you said you did not have a clue.
I wouldn't let the fabrication process overwhelm you. I have been a fabricator for 20 + years and I can tell you that understanding the material and having the right equipment is most of the battle. With the amount of welding that hull will take you will develop your technique very quickly. The biggest thing you need to recognize especially with aluminum welding is penetration. That is a bit trickier and takes some time to see. A good teacher would greatly expedite that. The good news is that this system appears to be constructed as an assembly which means it has instructions as to the order in which to start assembling. I also noticed that they are using notches that align the parts and help create a lot of additional welding surface and strength. At the end of the day it is just a lot of elbow grease and patience. I have no doubt you can do it. Frankly the finish work on the inside would scare me more:)
It’s so wild. I fell out of my watching routine when I caught up after watching all the videos a few years back. And I come back to start binging again and this is the most recent video. Which is interesting because I do a lot of fabrication. I personally wouldn’t take on that project without a massive team. With two people even hustling I would imagine 10+ years to build that. I’m overwhelmed just looking at all the pieces and weld joints. That’s insane. I still daydream about what boat I would buy if I decided to just sell almost everything and go live on a sailboat. Lol
SV Nahoa is building the smaller David de Villiers boat. Protected rudders, inside helm, shaft drive and football size roof for solar and protection from sun and rain. Maybe just add a glass panel in the roof to see the main sail from the helm
Nahoa, Canadians are using experienced aluminum builder in New Zealand. Australian Barefoot doctors are building a luxury aluminum cat a Portofino in Dubai. And Sailing into freedom, another Aussie is building a performance aluminum cat in Vietnam. They should have an All Alu cat rally,
1) Those are some big windows for rough seas to hit 2) You can't see the sails from the helm position - is this a sailing boat? 3) Why do you want a cat? 4) You can fix the at-anchor ventilation situation on Delos with a windscoop on a forward hatch 5) How much do you know about electrolysis and bi-metallic corrosion? How much do you want to know?
@@CJA150179Brian was an early days Microsoft software engineer. I'm pretty sure he's set up financially. Plus his more than a decade on UA-cam as one of the first successful sailing channels doesn't hurt with extra income and tons of sponsors. He can do anything he wants.
Wherever you three go, whatever you do if it’s being videoed for UA-cam, I will follow! Honestly? I’ve grown attached to Sierra! I know she has Mormor- but I have no grandchildren of my own so I live vicariously thru your little family. I adore all three of you and Delos 1.0. I know I’ll love Delos 2.0 and/or whatever you decide to do as a family. As a long time viewer, I would miss you all terribly if I didn’t get to “see” you all each Friday. This ship is HUGE! it would be wonderful for you to live on. Could you tow Delos 1.0 just for sentimental reasons? lol Thanks for all the great content, the editing, everything. I love Fridays because of Delos. 😊
Hey there! As a non-expert, I do know that improper welding of aluminum can lead to serious problems like hot cracking, breaking, and brittle metal. The effects may not become apparent until later, such as when you're at sea. Just a consideration-I'm not sure if I'd be comfortable tackling a project like this without the onsite guidance of an expert. I've been a fan of your channel for years and can't wait to see what you do next. Stay safe and keep up the great work!
This is amazing news! I say go for it. I was diagnosed with an Inguinal Hernia about 7 years ago and I was floored at the cost of the surgery to repair it, even after medical insurance. I watched some UA-cam videos and found the process to repair pretty straightforward. Being pragmatic, like you, I decided the best course of action would be to take a leave of absence from work and learn more about surgical processes and surgical equipment. I toured a Med School hospital surgical suite and met a lovely Doctor that invited me into a surgery from a viewing room. I was amazed and instantly knew, “I can do this”! So began my journey. I bought some scalpels on Amazon and watched re-runs of every 90’s hospital show. I started buying whole hogs and performing “mock” surgical procedures and testing different forms of Spinal anesthesia that I could do on my own. As soon as I had recovered from the sepsis from one of my self performed spinal taps, I knew I was ready to finally eliminate my little bulging intestinal amigo. The day finally came and by all accounts my self-surgery went to plan. Yes there was some excessive uncontrollable bleeding but I expected that because my homemade vacuum pump motor kept seizing up (Damn Chinese products on Amazon), but otherwise a success. Roughly 60 days later there was a problem, I quickly got my garage setup for another surgery and did a little poking around. The Smell was unbearable. Turns out the staples I used (damn Office Max) were not rated for the application and began to degrade in my diaphragmatic incision. Well, after rushing myself to the ER and 4 surgeries later, I have become used to living without one of my legs and my wife has gotten used to changing out my colostomy bag twice a day. I guess what I’m trying to say is “follow your dream” - “save some money” - “who needs expert proven professionals when it’s all on UA-cam”. Whats the worst thing that could happen, it’s only transoceanic sailing….. it’s not surgery, its only cutting, fitting, welding and problem solving heavy format aluminum plate on a boat that your children will be living on in the middle of the ocean…. Go gettum tiger! Gotta go now, my family has to load me in the van for a Dr’s Appointment. Only 3 more months of blood transfusions to hopefully rectify this nasty blood poisoning.
A note of caution. Watch mat and Jessica sailing. They are building a cat and it is taking way longer than they imagined. At a boat yard a cat will take a year with 15-20 skilled workers. Do two people learning will take ten years. But it is a great challenge if you are willing. But hire a lot of skilled help to make the build time reasonable.
There is so much to love about this design. Three things stand out to me. The aluminum hull, the pilot house and the rudder skeg. That is the best rudder design I have ever seen on a catamaran. I could really see you guys making this a home. Besides, you only have one continent left. ❤❤❤
Delos watcher here from the beginning. In 2012 we bought quality Farrier 40' trimaran hulls from a builder who gave up. Still took four more years to launch a proper long-range adventuring boat. Late night watching Delos out there "doing it" helped keep my sanity and motivation. Learned along the way you DON'T build big multihulls to save money or get the one you want. Because a good-enough boat for you already exists, and it's cheaper. You DO build because you love the process, it's the work you want to do, and you are totally fine having the project completely consume your lifestyle. Full time boat-building, even if just managing others doing the work, is very tough on raising kids. (says me and others who worked alongside Delos in the Cabrales yard, B&K :)
Hey Brian, just a heads up, I’m a comm fisherman in Alaska, built a new aluminum gillnetter 2 yrs ago, if you don’t know already, they are LOUD inside. Think pennies in a pop can. LOUD!!!!! Did I mention they’re loud???
I was excited to think you were getting a new boat! Maybe a beautiful new catamaran like the one "Wynns sailing" finally just moved on. You are my favorite sailing channel, and have been watching you for at least 8 years now. When Ran sailing, (they too have a beautiful daughter Vera about the same age as Sierra) another favorite sailing site, decided to build their own boat, I watched a couple dozen shows about construction and sanding and then finally gave up! Although I like the family dynamics, I found that I really tuned in to watch the sailing adventures. I respect that you want to move back onto the land for a number of years as I too used to live on a boat and know that you can never rest knowing that you could sink at any moment. I wish you well! Perhaps I will start watching you again once Sierra is in her early teens!
Wow! This is going to be like starting all over again. Brian, I'm sure you are feeling many of the same emotions as when you first decided to chuck it all and set off on Delos. Kazza, you too had to take a giant leap of faith when you first decided to set sail with that crazy pirate of yours. Now, as you are about to embark on your latest adventure together, (with the nugget in tow) I want to thank you for sharing your lives with me online. I doubt I will ever get to travel to many of the places you have visited, but I thoroughly enjoy seeing them through your lens. Each of your videos is a precious gift. They brighten my day and lift my spirits when I am feeling blue. Good luck to you.
The sheer amount of work that Dan is doing in awe inspiring. That all looks incredibly intimidating but I know you guys could do it. Two things that came to mind are flush hatches on the deck and rain capture. You probably already thought of that. The best design I have seen is the Wynns (Gone with the Wynns on You Tube) new HH cat that is very self sufficient. Cheers and can't wait to see the progress!!! From eastern Pennsylvania.
While I understand the desire for an upgrade, and I am not sure what plans you have for SV Delos. I can only imagine all the feelings that can/will surface, of all the memories on SV Delos when and if you let it go to move forward. Best of Luck to all of you in your journey, and safe travels.
What makes you think they have to let it go? Are you intimate with their finances? If you've been watching long enough, youd know he was one of the early software engineers for Microsoft. He has other income.
@@ripn929707 Yes I am well aware of his history, and I know a passive-aggressive comment when I see one too… Maybe if you knew how to read, you would see in my comment “when and if you let it go” covered that. Yet again, positive comments as intended towards them, come down to replying to someone being obtuse.
Also, to throw my two cents in, I think it would be cool seeing you build the boat on your own or just seeing the progress of having it built by a yard. So I'm very excited to see what decisions you end up making and I will be here for the ride. Regardless. I know you can do either
The entire possibility of current leaks depleting your alu hull scares the bejesus out of me and would prevent me from touching them. I am sure you are taking this and a million other factors into consideration for your new build. Best of luck Delos !!
Delos 1 is exciting for me, however, I understand you wanting a change. There’s only so much welding I can watch. Just went though a tri hull build on another channel. Love you guys & have fun in the decision making. Have a great week!
I'm sorry Brian, I have seen you do some amazing things maintaining Delos but building your own boat from scratch will take a far longer learning curve than you think I believe. You will have to spend the next 7 or more years of your lives doing this, how old will you be then to start traveling again and how many subscribers will be left for you to take on the journey?
love it! Helm position reminds me of Gunboat. Suzie from Sailing Emerald Steel welded their whole boat together by herself and continues to do all the metal repairs. Very impressive.
Guys, guys, stick with the Architect and research the Nohoa 55 he is building in Wangahari New Zealand. The boat yard has all the experience in fit out you need. The average custom cat is 40,000 man hours that’s 19.2 years for this guy. And that’s for professionals who have the experience and jigs to fit out to modern standards. Speak with Ben from Sailing Nahoa, you won’t be disappointed. ❤ Love you guys, fair winds and following seas..
When I was a U.S. Navy photographer stationed in the San Francisco Bay area I remember taking photographs in dry dock of the hull of a USNS research/intelligence gathering ship. The USNS designation essentially means not a warship but owned by the US government. The crew was mostly civilian with a small compliment of regular Navy. The ship was built in Scotland and had substantial pits in its aluminum hull even though it was fairly new. The Navy was not very happy about that.
Beautiful in every way. I think as a community we will come together to hopefully make this happen sooner than later. You guys truely are a breath of fresh air.
The art and skill of welding is a two layered affair. It starts with the act of laying a bead that achieves the proper penetration and bond. This sounds much easier than it is and takes a lot of practice. Also, different materials behave differently. Carbon based materials, like steel are far more forgiving then non carbon based. ie aluminum is finicky in that a little too much heat can cause it to collapse. Enough on that because one could go on and on. The other, and equally important factor is managing movement. At extreme temperatures, and not so extreme temperatures metals expand, and when they cool they contract. These rates are not constant nor are they equal because different metals behave differently as do different thicknesses. Sometimes the simplest of tasks, like making two pieces square, can be the most problematic. Lastly, there are three major types of welding that are designed to work differently for varying tasks. They are MIG, TIG and stick. There’s also brazing and soldering. There are schools for welding and even they can’t teach all. Underwater welding is a specialty that requires multiple layers of skill. On one level a welder may be required to join two large sections of pipe, or panels on a ships hull. They may be scanned to determine acceptable levels of penetration. On another level a welder may be required to join two pieces of metal both 1/16” thick with a TIG machine, to exacting tolerances. So to say one is a welder, much less a competent one, is a statement that doesn’t say much by itself. It is a topic that books are written on, and even they can not speak to the varying levels of skill required for a multitude of tasks. That’s why welders, for the most part, specialize in one specific type of welding and become experts at what they do. So don’t minimize the importance of the act of welding, or the skill and competence required to do it well.
This whole discussion reminds me very much of the homebuilt aircraft community. The majority of aircraft pilots and owners are completely satisfied with purchasing new or used production aircraft, but another set choose to build their own plane (some from scratch, some from kits). Sometimes it’s to get capabilities or features not available in production aircraft, but for most, it’s the opportunity to learn host of a new skills and the pride that comes from eventually flying something your own hands put together. A lot of first time homebuilt builders have never worked on planes before and some barely knew how to use a screwdriver when they started, and yet hundreds of these planes are completed and flown successfully every year! If you’ve got the willingness to suck at something new and persevere through your inevitable mistakes, you can absolutely take on a project like this! Good luck!
man i only got through like the first 30 sek of you showing of that cat. damn , what a beauty.... a absult STUNNER of a vessel , all alu, a dream and a true world cruiser..... such a well overall solid build it seems watching it further through indoor steering - LOVE IT , order it now!
I learned a lot while I was Captain for 5 years. of a aluminum boat first you need to epoxy both sides to protect from salt corrosion, plus all fastners need to be isolated from the aluminum, stainless steel will eat the hull and cabinsides everywhere the disimular metals touch . and be sure to cover the hull on both sides. making the aluminum into a core material. lastly make sure the eletrical system is well isolated from the hull. 1 more thing it requires Magnisum for anodes.
Her 64' , ketch rigged big sister is my dream boat also. So glad you on this path for so many proper reasons. Truly a boat and design that is well thought out , built and designed for comfort, safety, and a long sweet life doing most anything. All the best and looking forward...😊
Having a Cat that can be beached is what yuuz guyz need........... You also don't need to be there during the initial build either. That part can be done with Star Link. I figure the placement of the sub-systems is more importanter 😁and seeing the water maker installed, engine placement, solar installation , battery setup, wiring diagrams ,etc. is worthy of your complete attention. Plucky is having a ball with his build in al-u-min-ium in Vietnam , Riley and Elayna just splashed their Tri, Uma is in a refit , Ran 2 is an interesting build, Ruby Rose and Arabella recently splashed, Tally Ho and Yaba and others are getting close to completion. My point is that there are plenty of "Build It" video's out there but watching the sub-systems go in provides a wealth of information that is not common knowledge to us not in the community but provides us with insight not usually found elsewhere............ enjoy ps.- Luv yuuz guyz ............
That’s a nice looking aluminum cat and I know that you are a pretty patient fellow but do you really know how long it takes to build a custom boat from scratch? I mean a new production boat seems to take forever and that’s with a whole boatyard of highly specialized people who build them day in and day out. Custom boats can take two or three times longer and that’s without adding in the inevitable delays, change orders, and hiccups that will almost certainly happen. I’m not trying to discourage you, just want you to be prepared for something that’s going to seem to take much longer than you anticipated.
The big question is 'do you want to sail a boat or build one?' ! You can expect to spend 6 to 8 years building a boat but that could be more, so you have to think about spending the next 10 years in a boat shed or boat yard instead of out sailing, how old will you be in 10yrs time ? If it's really something that you must do then it will happen and if you do what Leo Sampson did and turn it into a business and employ people to help it can be fun but again that is not sailing.
What an amazing project cannot wait Just building a boat and being heavenly involved with the spec, design and project management is enough on its own for anyone but if you intend doing a lot of the work your self's as well as running a channel then this makes it a truly big (unrealistic) undertaking. Get ready for years of 70 -80 hour weeks and then on top of the long hours on the tools doing all work of having to manage and drive the project forward with all the pressure of cost overruns and problems that goes with it. Its amazing you want to do this for you and your family, and they will think it's great for about six months and then they will resent that it costumes all you, goes on forever stopping you doing a lot of the exciting stuff you like doing as a couple/family. If you must do a lot of the work yourself, at least get someone to build the complete hull for you and leave money in the budget for other trades to help you do a good bit of stuff along the way. Could you do it all, yes someone like you could figure it all out, but why would you want to put yourself thru all that to build a boat on this scale without any fabrication/boat building experience. On top of all this the project done this way is probably not going to make for good content for UA-cam as it will take too long, be repetitive, and will not move forward faster enough to maintain people's interest.
@@magic72it Pontoon boats are not usually made of 50xx marine series alloy, but rather 60xx structural grade, which does not age well in a marine environment. I have a 44' alu sloop launched in 2016, unpainted above the waterline and the metal is in fantastic condition. Aluminum oxide is one of the hardest substances known to man.
I find it interesting that a number of full time cruisers including myself have come to the conclusion that Aluminium is the way to go for an expedition exploration catamaran. An approximate man hours for a 48 ft catamaran just the hulls/superstructure is about 4000 or about 2 man years. Then the interior fitout and mast boom sails rigging engines drive train etc is again approx 2000 hrs or 1 man year. So in total 6000 man hours or 3 man years. And this is for someone that is used to building boats. I think Peter from Sailing into Freedom is taking a good approach by having a catamaran built in Vietnam where skill is high relative to labour cost and the build will be quick due to the man power and enclosed facilities. In terms of features I have been on a couple of catamarans that have dual driving locations 1 in the Saloon forward and 1 in the Cockpit for summertime sailing best of both worlds. Like the protected rudders but also like the electric sail drives like epropulsion where the only thing going through the hulls is wiring. Well be interesting to watch your progression on Delos 2.0
I know you've talked about stepping back from sailing for a while so nug could have some land time. I know many of us would love to see you setup shop in Sweden and start building Delos 2.0. I loved watching Mads on Sail Life rebuild his boat Athena for several years, so don't worry about loosing viewers :)
Don't forget Johan and Malin who are currently building their 50"(?) *RAN II* in Sweden from scratch. It's not a super sturdy alu cat but a cedar/fiberglass cold molded monohull. The only thing they haven't done is logging and drying the timber ... hahaha. Their progress is good (according to schedule - I think), and the plan is to do it all in 3, max 4, yrs. An advantage they have is that Johan is a skilled woodworker by trade, thus he has skills needed and knows the materials and tools they use. In addition, they also purchased a cheap old sailboat they keep in the Baltics sea. That way that they can continue their own sailing adventures while uploading sailing content. Smart.
Whatever you decide , building yourself from scratch, helping build yourself, I am on board for the journey. Will it be a challenge? 100% at times it will completely suck. But look at all you've accomplished since you and Brady started sooo many years ago. You pretty much created this whole sailing channel genre. I say go for it! I'll be there following just like I have since the beginning 👍
Congratulations guys. The smiles on your faces say it all. Well done! Best of luck with the build...best location for a build too! You'll love little old Brisvegas. Hidden 💎
Nahoa 55? :) David makes some nice designs, most of which you can see on his site. Including 60+ sizing. Portofino has some interesting features. Have a look at Plukky's new boat - he's found a builder and its flying together.
I did my trade as a boat builder in Brisbane. Most diy builders had the hull made, then fitted it out themselves. There's a lot of pitfalls in fabricating from scratch with no experience.
Well it's certainly possible to build from scratch and learn all the techniques and skills as you go but do you want to go sailing or do you want to spend the next 10 years in a boat shed creating your dream ?
Hi Brian and Kazza. Great fun, watching your first attempts at Welding. I did a Welding Course in 1979; Gas welding and Gas Brazing. All Steel, no Aluminium. I'd never heard of Argon. We used Acetylene and Oxygen. I struggled with Gas welding, but Aced Brazing, which is still my preferred choice for joining metals. Done properly, it's stronger than welding, without the inherent problems of promoting Oxidation and Rust, because you don't change the Steel's metallic structure, as you create the puddle between the two pieces. Brazing also requires less heat, so you don't need all the extra gear, such as a welding mask. Just Green goggles will do, as you need to be able to see when the Flux liquifies. I like the boat's design. Working with Dan looks like fun and should be very informative. Looking forward to next week's episode. Fair Winds. Russ. UK.
As an aluminum boat owner I cannot agree more. It can be the perfect material if built well and taken care of with a keen eye and the right knowhow about the material.
There are alarm systems for this issue. Main thing is the boat cannot be used as an earth and the correct aluminium grade used. If the right grade is used you don't even need to paint it. But yes any power leaks can be costly.
Having followed y’all for years very excited to see the evolution of the design and fabrication process. My background is in prototype metal fabrication and just started working as the resident metal fabricator at a boat yard on Lake Superior. It’s been super interesting to see and learn the intersection of boats and metal fabrication. Very cool stuff y’all.
@@NZ_sharpie Thats where Elsie was built .. you can find and download the full story of the original build.. Theres another Australian boat family Sailing with the James's... recently started their story on a near complete raw finished Cat .. i follow they also have a little blond daughter toddler, Charlie . Dads a professional boat/ships captain...
@@AlexKall *_ Yep, we have quite a few Boat architects and Builders from South Africa which we can be Proud of, sadly a lot of them have left S.A. due to greener pastures! _*
It looks like you're going to be using the same design the Nahoa is using which is very exciting. I love the design and really am eager to see how you make it your own.
This idea looks promising - the level of customisation you could incorporate is insane 👍 Just engineer that front door like your life depends on it, because it does!
cool boat! i would recommend having a yard build the hull in order for it to be certified. then, you guys finish it out. hull build should take a couple years, interior plus rigging should take another year or so.
I can see it now: You should buy a small farm near Malin & Johan (RAN Sailing) where you can help each other with your respective boatbuilding projects, you’ll be closer to Mormor, and Nugget and Vera can become best friends. What could be better?
Wow that is a cool video! Building a boat from the ground up is a huge project but a very rewarding accomplishment when you are done. I've seen you repair, fix and create so many things so I believe you are capable of such a task - good luck - can't wait to see more.
Yes, and their vids soon became a bit tedious. Watching construction/rebuilds gets old and soon becomes 'I'll take a peek and see if they are making progress,' then go to another channel. Plan on losing viewers if you don't provide tons of variety.
@@jetjockey48 Yeah, Sailing Ruby Rose's boat build was incredibly confusing and tedious to watch. It may have been more of a failure of storytelling than anything else. These builds can get so detail-oriented and so in-the-weeds that some of these channels forget to tell a compelling story.
You can get ‘hands-on’ without going it solo. It’s a finance or time decision. Btw welcome to the other side, once you go cat you never go back. Cheers from Oz.
The time involved is going to change your lives and to a greater extent your enthusiasm for a return to your present lifestyle. The time building the boat will need interchange with sailing Delos on short term excursions so keep the flame burning. As Sierra grows her landlubber legs her needs and wants will change and a return to her boat life could be difficult but she will not develop into a full grown human being stuck on a boat for her formative years so change must occur if only for that reason. I wish you all the best for this momentous decision and only you know what that needs to be .I have learned in my 76 years that nothing stays the same and sometimes you just have to close that chapter in your book of life.
What a great episode. Sean is a legend, building that Catamaran himself from scratch. I think Brian building his own boat would be an amazing thing to do. Especially because of how much content you can crank out for us viewers, but I'm not gonna lie, I think it'll be a project of humongous proportions. Just thinking about the logistics of it all is mindboggling. We need like 10 Super Ryans for this lol! 😂With that said, I can't wait for you guys to embark on this journey.
@@m4hkn0 small children esp those born in Sweden are required by law to go to school and home schooling is not allowed. So why a cat is better for children I don't know if their daughter needs to be enrolled in school at 7. It can't be that far away.
I did a ground up van build. I planned 1 year and it took 5. I planned 100k and it took 200k. Its nice. But has had far more problems than a more ironed out professional product. I built it tonspend more time with the family. And ended up pretty much ghosting them for 5 years while stressing on the build at all times!There are benefits, but so far I would highly reccomended aginst it! I would imagine I would multiply all of that by 3-6X for a big boat! Also, the resale and the insurance etc etc are a nightmare. Once set, its nearly impossible to back down from the challenge, but I reallllllly hope yall do!
There are many people that have built a custom boat before. Getting a designer like Bob Perry helping you is a must. You can also talk to somebody like ‘Skip Novack’ who has had at least 2 Arctic expedition sailing boats built and been running trips for 30 years! Or the distant shores crew who are having an custom aluminum boat completed in Netherlands right now. Many other too. Build yourself? Interesting , way less sailing , just project managing a build would be way more than a full time job!!!!! Good luck enjoy the ride! Cheers Warren
Kazza and Brian, it’s pretty simple really. I’m confident you are more than capable of learning to weld and knowing what a good weld looks like. Developing the skills to recognise poor welds and knowing what went wrong will probably require more time. When the boat is built and you look in the mirror and are confident that from the first weld to the last weld meets the grade, happy days. Have you given a thought as to how an insurance company will look at the project as a whole? DIY v Professional build. I doff my cap to you for even thinking about it, let alone taking it on. Love the channel and all the best. Fair winds while waiting for the next episode…
Building your wn boat!?! Best thing is you will know it inside out. There won't be anything you find out by accident. I think it's crazy, just enough to work. Good luck Delos crew!
Go for it! The change of pace will have you appreciate the lives you live. A few years of building will go by quickly. Not to mention the socializing that Sierra will have!
I had a Delos (I guess 0.1) here in New Zealand. She was a Sparkman Stevens Design and built of concrete built by Cookson boats who were later very involved in our America's cup and Volvo efforts.. She competed in the 2 handed circumnavigation race of our North Island before I bought her, but certainly not a "racing" yacht by any means although we did try. I sold her after a marriage breakup and delivered her to the South Island. We did get an absolute hammering at east cape in over 60 knots of following sea and broke the self steering rudder and the head (somebody was sitting on it) plus a completely tangled up rigging. by breaking thru the back of a wave and falling into the trough. We were dragging chains and a sea anchor at the time but still shit happens. Anyway just thought i'd share that. Wish i could do what you are doing now but age and agility has got in the way.
Man that’s awesome.. what a cool experience! I recall working with me father on his modifications on his C&C 3/4 ton though the winter. We were like kids on Christmas Morning when the boat was dropped in the drink early spring. The excitement of this is completely on another level (like 4 levels up) and add the fact you have fans from across the world watching this.. I can’t wait to see how you decide to approach this new endeavor!
A Change is as good as a holiday , Your still young enough to make this happen , Once committed you will find time flys by & each stage will be a wonderful high & at the end the satisfaction is immense = Go for it , Just have the right site nailed down dots & Ts crossed .
What a quandary. To somehow maintain a loyal subscribership while parenting a nugget into wider social circles. Yet not... some will continue to share your life journey, and the loss of others will be replaced with some nuts yearning to be shipwrights. Enjoy the new phase!!
Awesome brian and kazza, dont worry about the doubters , you do you , if you want to experience your own build DO IT ! If your in Oz or NZ might just give you a hand
Just buy that one, or ask him to make the same, and start fitting it out :D Even doing that would be such a monumental task. I also think the actual tools to build one would cost a lot too.
I was supporting through Patreon MJ Sailing, Gone with the Wynns and Sailing Uma until they started building/buying new boats or going through an extensive refit. While I respect their decisions, I'm willing to help out people sailing and discovering new places, not being stuck in a boat yard for years on end.
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Ohhhh man! We haven't been this giddy about sharing a new video with you in a loooong time🥳We hope you enjoy Part 1 of our trip to Australia as we begin to explore what the evolution of this project might be...If you're on the edge of your seat and can't wait for part 2, consider joining our inner tribe on Patreon! Our Patrons get to watch all our videos a week early with no ads, plus we've got lots of exclusive content & juicy details in there of what's on the horizon for us and Delos 2.0! Visit patreon.com/svdelos to learn more 😎
You are users! You are trying to steal other people's labor for free! This must not happen!
I'm a little confused. Are you building a whole new boat from scratch, with that builder? Or, finishing out the hull you toured?
This catamaran looks just amazing 😍👍🏼👍🏼⛵️ I can’t wait see you in Delos 2.0 ❤️👌🏼
I guess you have talked to your fellow sailors and vloggers at Sailing la Vagabonde, the Australian couple Riley and Elayna that has also gone from monohull to a catamaran, and have a long experience with it, before they went with their trimaran.
@@ripn929707they are building the catamaran from scratch ❤
Wow, looking a some of those comments, you seem to have rattled the nay sayers nest. Dont listen to them. You do what you want, we will watch and support your channel.
Hello . I am a retired welder. I have a life time of experiences with structural , Pressure welding an millwrighting . Thought about this for awhile. Think the best plan might be to help design the interior, the sail plan , rigging , systems . Then leave the building of the hull to the experts . That way you can still be making sailing content with Delos , in till you jump on the new boat . Your sailing content I think is why you are the best sailing channel. Not that you could not complete a vessel yourself, but I think it would be overwhelming building an making the content . Just my thoughts . Excited to see what your future brings you 👍
Well said, I agree 1000 percent.
Yes, I totally agree with @deweerd3155. Having done this for many years restoring cars, it will take a ton of intellectual and emotional energy. I'm sure Brian will reach out to some of the builders who have blazed this trail already and see how this commitment will impact his family.
I also agree. Just take a look at MJ Sailing. They're doing great, but it will be years before they're back on the water. Same with Ran Sailing....
I agree as well. Managing a project this size will be a full time and a half job. I would love to follow the building of a new boat design with innovative features on You-tube. Tally Ho is turning out way better than I every thought it would.
@@pkane5472at least plukky from sailing into freedom is blasting along with his cat build❤
After watching you work in Delos over the years, I’d recommend buying a bare hull and decks, like that boat is now, and then fitting it out yourself, so you then know all the systems onboard. That would be more valuable than learning how to weld.
The hull is about 40% of the cost, but more than 50% of the build time, and I think it's a really good idea to let the pros manufacture the hull, and do the rest of it.
@@charonstyxferrymanI’ve built som boats, which were mainly racing epoxy/ glass trimarans, meaning barely any interior and sophisticated rigs. Still the calculations come out way worse than even your estimate. Making the hulls and platform structures was typically less than 10% of purchase cost and far less than 10% of total building time. Adaptions and details take a LOT of time. The vast number of things to buy for fitting out makes for a big bill. Especially a good sailing rig racks up costs at an alarming rate.
THIS ! Building it all yourself will be a 10 year endeavour. Even outfitting a bare hull is no small task.
Agreed fit out an existing hull and decks would be a far more manageable and realistic goal to aim for that building an entire boat from scratch with zero knowledge and experience in boat building.
My 2 cents, I totally agree. Way too big a project to build from scratch, try to buy that aluminum boat as is.
Guys we love you!!!! I built a lot of things, fixed a few boats, worked with wood and metals and all kinds of equipment. Here is what I think :-). Do not bury yourself in a project of that magnitude. I have no doubts you can do it, but the world needs you as the most interesting adventurers out there. I understand that you want to build it your way so get into a half built boat or retrofit some solid hull. From scratch… will take years, it will take a toll on your health welding metal and sanding tons of interior, spraying horrible finishes, the situation can change with your loved ones, also especially these days when the prices of material become unaffordable…and we need you to travel more amazing places. Spend a year or two, not more. Sorry, I’m being honest because we truly love you guys.
Sound thinking Sir !
"the world needs you as the most interesting adventurers out there"
They should do things for themselves and not based on random people rather wanting to see them sail... Maybe they want/need a break from the ocean and Sierra getting a few years of regular school is not a bad thing.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I don't think a home-built 63' aluminum catamaran is something to be taken lightly even by someone with tons of experience with welding/fabrication and/or boat building. Getting from zero to successful completion on this may take more than you have to give to it.
@@BilldalSWEI guess you are right, I just wanted the guys to take a little easier way
Very well said! A project like this would end with selling a half built boat, bankruptcy, then the big D! We all Love you and want the best for you all!👍👍👍
I highly recommend that you have the metal CNC pre-cut and have a professional builder with experience with aluminum hull fabrication) build the hull for you. You can then build out the interior (wiring, systems, cabinets, paint, ...) yourself. With your technical skills that should be feasible (I am sure you will get lots of help). Fabricating an aluminum hull requires a shit load of trade skills. Aluminum warps like crazy when applying heat from welding. I am sure you found Plukky's Elcano videos and "Distant Shores". If you still consider doing it yourself, start by building an aluminum dinghy. There are plans for that available for purchase.
The only problem I see with having the hull build for you is that you will most likely will need to finish the boat in the same location (or close by) as where you have the hull built. I assume cost is important for you, so you would have to use a hull builder from cheaper places like Vietnam, Thailand or Philippines. And shipping an unfinished hull to a different part of the world is going to be expensive.
I restored a hurricane damaged boat, like Colin (but a Leopard 48) and it took me about 18-22months, in Antigua. I'm also a software guy like you Brian, and only did (alot) of youtube before.
But building from scratch is a whole other level. You really wanna spend 4-5 years on land?
Have you seen what Plucky is doing? (sailing into freedom). I would suggest you do something similar, just be heavily involved rather than doing it all yourself. It's sooooo much work.
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Never thought Plucky would be the example of reason ever for anyone but here we are. I'll drink to that. Lol
I also vote for something like what Plukky is doing. Reduced costs but he's not wasting years and losing viewers.
plukky is doing great, i should know 😊
I have been full expecting B&K to give up their salty ways when Sierra reached school age. I figured they'd sell off Delos and take up with MorMor in Sweden until the child was maybe 18 and in college. So this is a whole new ball game opening up here and I'm surprised and excited for them. Good luck with your new vessel, Guys!
As someone who has done high latitude sailing for 33 years, I can tell you that you're on the right track with an aluminum catamaran. I've travel to very remote places on aluminum jetboats that only have a 4" draft and can basically operate in less than a half foot of water. Been in them in really bad weather here in Alaska, where the hull was just slamming and pounding into big storm driven waves and the boat just eats this type of weather up like it's nothing. I would worry less about the hull than I would the mounts on the engine, it's that tough!
That said, and based on years of traveling to fjords and glaciers, I would look for the following in your new boat:
1. Combination of wind and solar for power generation. High latitudes are known for cloudy weather. I live in a temperate rain forest, so go w/ solar cells that are shade resistant, and get two wind generators. When it's dark here, the wind still blows and we get a good amount of wind most of the time.
2. Skeg hung rudder. The yacht in your video has the prop shaft and prop coming out of the hull between the skeg and the rudder. Perfect. Add a folding prop and you're golden. In icy areas, some small bergs and/or submerged logs will impact the hull and having the protection of the skeg for both the rudder and the prop and shaft will ensure protection for both. Because of our high tides, we can have a lot of flotsam in the water during different times of the year.
3. Watertight bulkheads, forward. Between the boat's bow and forward cabin, there should be a watertight bulkhead, in case of collision. Also, perhaps bulkheads in the stern between engine rooms and interior space.
4. Very good insulation. Not only for cold weather and interior heat but also for hot weather sailing, to help keep the interior at the perfect temp, year 'round, no matter the outside weather might be. The insulation will also help keep humidity down on the inside of the boat because it moves the dew point closer to the outside of the hull, rather than inside of it.
5. Hanging locker for foul weather gear. Heated if possible. Drains to bilge, etc...
6. Full cockpit enclosure. Makes the cockpit into an extra room that can be used even in cold weather. My cockpit is half enclosed and the heat rises out of the salon and heats that area up nicely. Plus, it's nice on rainy days to sit out in the cockpit w/out worrying about the wind and rain making it miserable!
7. Hard bottom RIB. I believe Maggie is hard bottomed. You'll need that to get close to glaciers and to land on remote beaches. Wish I had one. Also important if you're using it as a lifeboat because if you need to get to shore but it's a rocky shore, a hard bottom RIB stands a better chance of withstanding the beating than other options. Also, some dinghy wheels because the tides in Alaska and other places can vary up to 24', so if it's a flood tide and you want to get the dink up the beach, the wheels come in real handy!
That's about all I can think of, but I'm sure there's more. Garcia yachts makes a nice 54' aluminum cat but it has saildrives and I wouldln't use those in areas where logs and ice might be in the water. I'm sure there's a manufacturer out there who will let you be part of the build process and wish you luck in your search!
Yes, we love our skeg!
David de Villiers has some great designs and Nahoa's 55 looks amazing. But, have a capable yard build it and you can have input along the way. I've been following you since day one, but not keen on watching another channel doing a 3-5 year DIY boat build. Do what you do best- travel to amazing places and let us follow along. Leave the boat build to the the pros!
A project like this takes an enormous amount of emotional and physical energy and stamina. The same energy required to equip, prepare for and carry out ocean expeditions only more gruelling. It's likely to take at least five years if you remain 100% committed to it. You only have so much of this energy and this could be very draining for you. I know you will be thinking of this but having been through this myself, I would suggest you save your energy for sailing and get someone else to do most of the building. You can be very involved but being able to take time out to sail and enjoy your family and know that the project is still moving ahead is really valuable. Whatever you choose, good luck
I feel sad for the Delos 1.0 because it has all, I mean ALL of the amazing memories which includes all people that the boat went with thousand of nautical miles, and baby Nugs grew there for the first 4 years of her life... but, it's amazing that you GROW in all technical, relationships, and intellectual sense. We're also excited for you. Let's go Delos 2.0!!!
Delos 1.0 will be welded into Delos 2.0 in some form or fashion. There's no way there's no part of the original Delos, an important part, into Delos 2.0
Memories are with people, not objects ;) and they have the whole thing chronicled in Vlogs!
@@redcapote4760 - lol, OK.
@@drx1xym154 You really don't think they will?
Constructing your own boat from scratch is, IMO, absolutely mental. There are SO MANY fantastic boat designers out there working that have the manufacturing to back it up. I would never dream of building from scratch. From being on a couple cats, I can see several issues with this vessel already. Like there are no rear docking helms and there is no sail visibility from inside the covered wheel house. Good luck, this is a monumental challenge.
A network of cameras from mastheads to props would do visibility things beyond holes and windows.
100% mental. It’s counterproductive for them, their channel. Obviously they feel they have something to prove. Will be interesting to see if they continue. Harder to bail the longer it drags on. The majority audience won’t tolerate it for long. Hardcore fans will be stretched. Everyone comes here for adventure and eye candy. This is neither. I hope it’s worth the loss in the end. I’m out. I’ll come back to laugh though!
@@johnqdoe I'm sure they're well aware of how this'll cause loss of subscribers. It's their choice to prioritise some social variety for their nugs. They'll still be living a new chapter of the dream, and will certainly pick up subscribers with boat-fitting dreams.
I also get a kick watching them. But I agree it is crazy to design and build a boat themselves. That is not something you 1 day wake up and master, being a SERIOUS safety issue.
I have had the experience building two 65' monohulls. One in the UK and one in USA RI. From lofting to completion both took more or less 18 months to luanch. Both went approx 30% over budget. You can't do it alone unless you have a lifetime or so to do it. Find the right help. Be sure to be in a place where there is a boatbuilding culture. My take away is never take short cuts and never lose sight of the big picture. Obvious right? Good luck!
sounds like great advice.
Brian, we met in Grenada 5 years ago when you came up to Grenada hang with Rick Moore. Lori and I got married on Rick's boat that winter. Not to sure if I told you back then that I've now been an aluminum boat builder for 43 years. I applaud your desire to build your next boat. I will say there is so, so much to know and learn about boat building. So many talents are required and you already possess many of them. Keep your knowledgeable resources close. I'm sure many would love to offer up some guidance and how to get to your ends. After 43 years in the biz, I'm now looking at retiring from the craft that I so loved and worked passionately at through my life. My life long dream has been to get a sail boat and see the world like you have done. I wish you well in this new chapter in completing Delos 2.0. By the time you have completed your new build, you will def be ready to get back on the water to enjoy your creation. The best way to know your boat, is to just build it. Fair winds on this next journey.....
Hey Bill, yes I remember! Good times! Sending you our best and thanks for the encouraging words. Brian
Hi Bill, what solution do alum hull designs employ to deal with surface heat from sun in hot climates? Is it just as simple as a few extra coats of paint? Thx
What I've seen done is, during the build is to spray a urethane foam in the in-between all the hull and deck frames and virtually cover and coat the hull material from the inside. This insulation method not only helps with keeping the boat warm in cold climates, but also cool in hot climates. As for the exterior deck plate, I believe there is a product you can paint on the deck to reduce the surface temp and there is also some sheet products that can be glued onto the deck to help with reducing the surface temp as well as add some non-skid properties and a nice look to the deck. I hope this helps.
No experience in boat building 60+ feet = 6+ years, if you're lucky. Just buy custom or semi custom. Sailing is more enjoyable, than boat yards.
Must say, I'm inclined to agree. I think they're making a mistake here.
Problem from the point of a Channelviewer:
In the beginning it is fun to watch the learning and building process then it becomes more and more boring to see 1000times of cutting, welding, grinding, building. Making is the repetition of the same day by day.
That is a big difference to boat projects there a fun to watch because u can learn, dream and there is a end on the horizion.
But build a boot is a very long long travel with lots of boring parts. No Water views, no Sunshine, no Beach, no Palmtrees, no wind, no Waves, no sails just dirt.
My guess after 3 month of boot building videos they will start to lose viewers.
@@stefans.3940I'm not convinced. I've been watching Tally Ho build from keel up every week for like 4 years. If you focus on different projects, it doesn't get boring. That said, what they will probably see is a change in who is watching.
Most people just sit at their computer and never take any substantial risk in their life. This channel is here because of risk (adventure) they taken. If the end result is a more comfortable and capable boat for their family, the viewer count will grow and grow over time. This is their life and home, not just a UA-cam channel.
@@dannyarcher6370 The difference with Tally Ho, is that you are watching various skilled tradesmen creating a glorious wooden vessel. That is not the same as watching a youtuber sand, fair, sand, fair for an eternity. Even if Delos 2, decided to be aluminium, that is not riveting viewing. I haven't watched an episode of MJ sailing in over a year(maybe two) because it's just not interesting to me. Various projects that are relatable, fine, but 99% of us will never build a boat because we don't want to and would rather sail.
I have a lot of experience working in machine shops that do a lot of fabrication, and I must say; I'm not sure you guys fully understand just how massive this project will be. This is a year long project for a shipyard dedicated to building custom aluminum hulls. A shipyard with dozens of skilled tradesmen, and millions of dollars of very expensive equipment. They have waterjets, sheet metal shapers, overhead gantry cranes, CNC milling machines, large hydraulic sheet metal brakes, and multiple $5,000 welders, and it still would take them a year or more to complete the build.
This guy who built this thing took how long to build the first one? And he's an expert with this kind of stuff. I really think you aught to consider having at least the hull built at a shipyard. I do believe you have the skills necessary to finish out the rest of the boat, but that hull is going to be such a daunting task that I fear you'll give up on it.
Motion sickness is a huge consideration for those who spend a lot of time on the water. This is certainly a fantastic boat designed for serious offshore expeditions in some of the harshest ocean environments on the planet. My suggestion though would be to spend some time living on a catamaran before taking a very large plunge into a vessel like this. Cats and monohulls have a very different motion on the ocean and for some people, it can be a very difficult adjustment going from one to the other. Regardless, aluminum has been and will continue to be the material of choice for those seeking a serious ocean going expeditionary vessel. The material is strong, lightweight, predictable under a variety of stresses and loads, and can be readily repaired in contrast to modern carbon fiber and composite alternatives.
Couldn't agree more. There is a channel called 'Steve Lehto," or 'Lehto's Law,.' He is a lawyer who practices in "Lemon Law" in Michigan and has done several videos and is adamantly against buying a new RV. Watch him, he is very good and will tell you of the many drawbacks to buying a brand new RV. He believes that if you want to buy an RV you should rent one and keep it for a week or two or ten ...and then consider buying a used one. You have to watch him to get where I want to go with this thought..
I think you are right that the new buyers should spend time on a catamaran, two or three months, before making up their minds. They should sail in all types of weather. Get Delos to Australia, rent a catamaran and circumnavigate Australia. Let's see where you are then.
Interesting, as a land locked dreamer, I would assume a cat is more comfortable and less sea sickening in every possible way.
@@dirkharvey As someone who has spent time on both, your assumption is not accurate. The most significant issue is the person's sensitivity to different types and intensities of motion. Beyond that, catamarans experience twice the amount of pitching/rolling per broadside wave than mono hulls. While some reduction in overall vertical movement can be achieved with a catamaran if you're located exactly between the two hulls, some people can be more sensitive to abrupt motion shifts than raw distance of displacement in any given direction. For them, it's more unsettling on a catamaran when one hull is moving in a given direction and the other hull suddenly shifts into a different direction since the craft is effectively being agitated by two separate inputs simultaneously.
@@cjg6364 Couldn't agree more, again.
@@dirkharvey Going to weather (sailing upwind) in a cat can be tough. Once the seas are big enough to start slamming into that bridge deck, no matter how rounded it is, the motion will be much jerkier and more uncomfortable than a monohull. Another issue with cats, although this one is probably strong enough to take it, is the challenge of trying to slow down enough in heavy following winds and seas. If they get going too fast down a big wave they can "stuff the bows". Not good. Having said all of that, this is an amazing boat and most sailors would be proud to own her. I agree that the best route would be to have a reputable builder complete the bulk of the aluminum work. Still learn to weld aluminum by doing your own davits, stanchions, handrails, hold-downs etc. so you can modify/repair as you go. Pre-fab sections of the interior, for installation after insulation/interior skinning, so that you still have content and can cut the timeline down considerably. Definitely do it if you can!
Plucky is buildinng a cat from scratch in Vietnamm. There's whole crew going at it as we speak and it's coing along fairly quickly. Doing the whole thing by yourself from the start...man-oh-man! - that's a hell of an undertaking.
ua-cam.com/video/osnnlBaZyq8/v-deo.htmlsi=vnTo6PVVwuG1417x
Video is Plucky’s latest build video from Vietnam
For some reason I thought he was in Greece, I’m glad you were here!! It was the first thing that I thought about too when I realized they were looking at Aluminum Catamarans. Thanks!
U r right. Brian has no idea what he is talking about. He will ruin his channel and the family life
@@rudolfbrunokleinert9425 Nugs is bound to be a catalyst in the realignment. Parenting won't defer to channel ruination.
I've been following Delos for years. Mostly silently, with an occasional comment. This new chapter in your life's adventure sounds just perfect, for you guys and for those of us who follow you. Cannot wait to see what comes next. Thanks for sharing.
Dear Delos long long time follower. So take this with the love it is sent with. You are out of your every loving mind if you take on that project. Welding Aluminum is a sub set of welding which is not an easily acquired skill. You are looking at welding for 8 hours day for 3-5 years. We have a friend who travels threw out the Midwest welding Aluminum power station for electrical companies. He travels not because there is not welders in those locations but because he is welding Aluminum which he has been for 30 years. You will not acquire that skill running a few beads on a workbench table. Brian you were right when you said you did not have a clue.
Building a boat from scratch is a hell of a job. Lots of luck.
I wouldn't let the fabrication process overwhelm you. I have been a fabricator for 20 + years and I can tell you that understanding the material and having the right equipment is most of the battle. With the amount of welding that hull will take you will develop your technique very quickly. The biggest thing you need to recognize especially with aluminum welding is penetration. That is a bit trickier and takes some time to see. A good teacher would greatly expedite that. The good news is that this system appears to be constructed as an assembly which means it has instructions as to the order in which to start assembling. I also noticed that they are using notches that align the parts and help create a lot of additional welding surface and strength. At the end of the day it is just a lot of elbow grease and patience. I have no doubt you can do it. Frankly the finish work on the inside would scare me more:)
wise words and thank you for that! The people that are the most optimistic are those that know the most about metal fabrication. Go figure.... :)
It’s so wild. I fell out of my watching routine when I caught up after watching all the videos a few years back. And I come back to start binging again and this is the most recent video. Which is interesting because I do a lot of fabrication. I personally wouldn’t take on that project without a massive team. With two people even hustling I would imagine 10+ years to build that. I’m overwhelmed just looking at all the pieces and weld joints. That’s insane. I still daydream about what boat I would buy if I decided to just sell almost everything and go live on a sailboat. Lol
This is dope mazal tov!
SV Nahoa is building the smaller David de Villiers boat. Protected rudders, inside helm, shaft drive and football size roof for solar and protection from sun and rain. Maybe just add a glass panel in the roof to see the main sail from the helm
I wonder if Delos will go with the larger boat?
Nahoa, Canadians are using experienced aluminum builder in New Zealand.
Australian Barefoot doctors are building a luxury aluminum cat a Portofino in Dubai.
And Sailing into freedom, another Aussie is building a performance aluminum cat in Vietnam.
They should have an
All Alu cat rally,
Multihulls on the way. I agree with you. Brian should check them out.
1) Those are some big windows for rough seas to hit
2) You can't see the sails from the helm position - is this a sailing boat?
3) Why do you want a cat?
4) You can fix the at-anchor ventilation situation on Delos with a windscoop on a forward hatch
5) How much do you know about electrolysis and bi-metallic corrosion? How much do you want to know?
Life is for living... just buy it!
Even that bare hull will be 6 figure to buy..
@@CJA150179Brian was an early days Microsoft software engineer. I'm pretty sure he's set up financially. Plus his more than a decade on UA-cam as one of the first successful sailing channels doesn't hurt with extra income and tons of sponsors. He can do anything he wants.
@@CJA150179 U mean 100000? :D
Definitely
Wherever you three go, whatever you do if it’s being videoed for UA-cam, I will follow!
Honestly? I’ve grown attached to Sierra! I know she has Mormor- but I have no grandchildren of my own so I live vicariously thru your little family. I adore all three of you and Delos 1.0. I know I’ll love Delos 2.0 and/or whatever you decide to do as a family. As a long time viewer, I would miss you all terribly if I didn’t get to “see” you all each Friday.
This ship is HUGE! it would be wonderful for you to live on. Could you tow Delos 1.0 just for sentimental reasons? lol
Thanks for all the great content, the editing, everything. I love Fridays because of Delos. 😊
Hey there! As a non-expert, I do know that improper welding of aluminum can lead to serious problems like hot cracking, breaking, and brittle metal. The effects may not become apparent until later, such as when you're at sea. Just a consideration-I'm not sure if I'd be comfortable tackling a project like this without the onsite guidance of an expert. I've been a fan of your channel for years and can't wait to see what you do next. Stay safe and keep up the great work!
Looks friggin sweet guys. Congrats!!!!
Yeah guys! He he he :)
Would be great to see both of your fantastic channels doing an episode together on the subject. Exciting times😊
Builders are builders and you have a sailers heart. ❤️
if you get a forward helm, make sure you have a docking station aft..
This is amazing news! I say go for it.
I was diagnosed with an Inguinal Hernia about 7 years ago and I was floored at the cost of the surgery to repair it, even after medical insurance. I watched some UA-cam videos and found the process to repair pretty straightforward. Being pragmatic, like you, I decided the best course of action would be to take a leave of absence from work and learn more about surgical processes and surgical equipment. I toured a Med School hospital surgical suite and met a lovely Doctor that invited me into a surgery from a viewing room. I was amazed and instantly knew, “I can do this”! So began my journey. I bought some scalpels on Amazon and watched re-runs of every 90’s hospital show. I started buying whole hogs and performing “mock” surgical procedures and testing different forms of Spinal anesthesia that I could do on my own.
As soon as I had recovered from the sepsis from one of my self performed spinal taps, I knew I was ready to finally eliminate my little bulging intestinal amigo.
The day finally came and by all accounts my self-surgery went to plan. Yes there was some excessive uncontrollable bleeding but I expected that because my homemade vacuum pump motor kept seizing up (Damn Chinese products on Amazon), but otherwise a success.
Roughly 60 days later there was a problem, I quickly got my garage setup for another surgery and did a little poking around. The Smell was unbearable. Turns out the staples I used (damn Office Max) were not rated for the application and began to degrade in my diaphragmatic incision.
Well, after rushing myself to the ER and 4 surgeries later, I have become used to living without one of my legs and my wife has gotten used to changing out my colostomy bag twice a day.
I guess what I’m trying to say is “follow your dream” - “save some money” - “who needs expert proven professionals when it’s all on UA-cam”. Whats the worst thing that could happen, it’s only transoceanic sailing….. it’s not surgery, its only cutting, fitting, welding and problem solving heavy format aluminum plate on a boat that your children will be living on in the middle of the ocean….
Go gettum tiger!
Gotta go now, my family has to load me in the van for a Dr’s Appointment. Only 3 more months of blood transfusions to hopefully rectify this nasty blood poisoning.
A note of caution. Watch mat and Jessica sailing. They are building a cat and it is taking way longer than they imagined. At a boat yard a cat will take a year with 15-20 skilled workers. Do two people learning will take ten years. But it is a great challenge if you are willing. But hire a lot of skilled help to make the build time reasonable.
Sailing into freedom is building one also cool too see it going together.
its almost finished, building yourself will take years
He's a boilermaker! Hell yeah brother! Union Boilermaker here local 108 Birmingham AL
There is so much to love about this design. Three things stand out to me. The aluminum hull, the pilot house and the rudder skeg. That is the best rudder design I have ever seen on a catamaran. I could really see you guys making this a home. Besides, you only have one continent left. ❤❤❤
Yes, that rudder/skeg design is what all cats should have, so much better than the vulnerable sail-drives and spade rudders.
I was just thinking, that even an Orca might find this a bit hard to swallow.
Looks like you’ll get abunch of shit caught in it
Agreed!
Delos watcher here from the beginning. In 2012 we bought quality Farrier 40' trimaran hulls from a builder who gave up. Still took four more years to launch a proper long-range adventuring boat. Late night watching Delos out there "doing it" helped keep my sanity and motivation. Learned along the way you DON'T build big multihulls to save money or get the one you want. Because a good-enough boat for you already exists, and it's cheaper. You DO build because you love the process, it's the work you want to do, and you are totally fine having the project completely consume your lifestyle. Full time boat-building, even if just managing others doing the work, is very tough on raising kids. (says me and others who worked alongside Delos in the Cabrales yard, B&K :)
Hey Brian, just a heads up, I’m a comm fisherman in Alaska, built a new aluminum gillnetter 2 yrs ago, if you don’t know already, they are LOUD inside. Think pennies in a pop can. LOUD!!!!! Did I mention they’re loud???
Somebody will tell him that you just need to insulate the hull inside but we know that has very limited success !
@@ian-c.01well truth be told, you get used to it, and then don’t hear it at all…………
@@sailingthevic3966Yeah, because constant noise makes you deaf!
I would say that "oil drum" is more accurate.
I was excited to think you were getting a new boat! Maybe a beautiful new catamaran like the one "Wynns sailing" finally just moved on. You are my favorite sailing channel, and have been watching you for at least 8 years now. When Ran sailing, (they too have a beautiful daughter Vera about the same age as Sierra) another favorite sailing site, decided to build their own boat, I watched a couple dozen shows about construction and sanding and then finally gave up! Although I like the family dynamics, I found that I really tuned in to watch the sailing adventures. I respect that you want to move back onto the land for a number of years as I too used to live on a boat and know that you can never rest knowing that you could sink at any moment. I wish you well! Perhaps I will start watching you again once Sierra is in her early teens!
Have you watched Distant Shores? Man, it takes a long time to build a boat from scratch, even with an entire industry behind it.
Wow! This is going to be like starting all over again. Brian, I'm sure you are feeling many of the same emotions as when you first decided to chuck it all and set off on Delos. Kazza, you too had to take a giant leap of faith when you first decided to set sail with that crazy pirate of yours. Now, as you are about to embark on your latest adventure together, (with the nugget in tow) I want to thank you for sharing your lives with me online. I doubt I will ever get to travel to many of the places you have visited, but I thoroughly enjoy seeing them through your lens. Each of your videos is a precious gift. They brighten my day and lift my spirits when I am feeling blue. Good luck to you.
The sheer amount of work that Dan is doing in awe inspiring. That all looks incredibly intimidating but I know you guys could do it. Two things that came to mind are flush hatches on the deck and rain capture. You probably already thought of that. The best design I have seen is the Wynns (Gone with the Wynns on You Tube) new HH cat that is very self sufficient.
Cheers and can't wait to see the progress!!! From eastern Pennsylvania.
While I understand the desire for an upgrade, and I am not sure what plans you have for SV Delos.
I can only imagine all the feelings that can/will surface, of all the memories on SV Delos when and if you let it go to move forward.
Best of Luck to all of you in your journey, and safe travels.
What makes you think they have to let it go? Are you intimate with their finances? If you've been watching long enough, youd know he was one of the early software engineers for Microsoft. He has other income.
@@ripn929707 Yes I am well aware of his history, and I know a passive-aggressive comment when I see one too… Maybe if you knew how to read, you would see in my comment “when and if you let it go” covered that. Yet again, positive comments as intended towards them, come down to replying to someone being obtuse.
Also, to throw my two cents in, I think it would be cool seeing you build the boat on your own or just seeing the progress of having it built by a yard. So I'm very excited to see what decisions you end up making and I will be here for the ride. Regardless. I know you can do either
The entire possibility of current leaks depleting your alu hull scares the bejesus out of me and would prevent me from touching them. I am sure you are taking this and a million other factors into consideration for your new build. Best of luck Delos !!
Ya the channel ‘cast off your lines’ made that clear. So many times when she had to haul out and weld the tiny holes. Scary.
Delos 1 is exciting for me, however, I understand you wanting a change. There’s only so much welding I can watch. Just went though a tri hull build on another channel. Love you guys & have fun in the decision making. Have a great week!
I'm sorry Brian, I have seen you do some amazing things maintaining Delos but building your own boat from scratch will take a far longer learning curve than you think I believe. You will have to spend the next 7 or more years of your lives doing this, how old will you be then to start traveling again and how many subscribers will be left for you to take on the journey?
If you can dream it you can build it. Go for it, it will be very fun to watch ⛵️🏁
love it!
Helm position reminds me of Gunboat.
Suzie from Sailing Emerald Steel welded their whole boat together by herself and continues to do all the metal repairs. Very impressive.
Yes great job but at least they did not bore us to death with the build & fabrication. 🙂
Guys, guys, stick with the Architect and research the Nohoa 55 he is building in Wangahari New Zealand. The boat yard has all the experience in fit out you need. The average custom cat is 40,000 man hours that’s 19.2 years for this guy. And that’s for professionals who have the experience and jigs to fit out to modern standards. Speak with Ben from Sailing Nahoa, you won’t be disappointed. ❤ Love you guys, fair winds and following seas..
When I was a U.S. Navy photographer stationed in the San Francisco Bay area I remember taking photographs in dry dock of the hull of a USNS research/intelligence gathering ship. The USNS designation essentially means not a warship but owned by the US government. The crew was mostly civilian with a small compliment of regular Navy. The ship was built in Scotland and had substantial pits in its aluminum hull even though it was fairly new. The Navy was not very happy about that.
Not the fault of the builders but poor maintenance.
Beautiful in every way. I think as a community we will come together to hopefully make this happen sooner than later. You guys truely are a breath of fresh air.
The art and skill of welding is a two layered affair. It starts with the act of laying a bead that achieves the proper penetration and bond. This sounds much easier than it is and takes a lot of practice. Also, different materials behave differently. Carbon based materials, like steel are far more forgiving then non carbon based. ie aluminum is finicky in that a little too much heat can cause it to collapse. Enough on that because one could go on and on.
The other, and equally important factor is managing movement. At extreme temperatures, and not so extreme temperatures metals expand, and when they cool they contract. These rates are not constant nor are they equal because different metals behave differently as do different thicknesses. Sometimes the simplest of tasks, like making two pieces square, can be the most problematic.
Lastly, there are three major types of welding that are designed to work differently for varying tasks. They are MIG, TIG and stick. There’s also brazing and soldering.
There are schools for welding and even they can’t teach all. Underwater welding is a specialty that requires multiple layers of skill. On one level a welder may be required to join two large sections of pipe, or panels on a ships hull. They may be scanned to determine acceptable levels of penetration. On another level a welder may be required to join two pieces of metal both 1/16” thick with a TIG machine, to exacting tolerances.
So to say one is a welder, much less a competent one, is a statement that doesn’t say much by itself. It is a topic that books are written on, and even they can not speak to the varying levels of skill required for a multitude of tasks. That’s why welders, for the most part, specialize in one specific type of welding and become experts at what they do.
So don’t minimize the importance of the act of welding, or the skill and competence required to do it well.
Well said!
This whole discussion reminds me very much of the homebuilt aircraft community. The majority of aircraft pilots and owners are completely satisfied with purchasing new or used production aircraft, but another set choose to build their own plane (some from scratch, some from kits). Sometimes it’s to get capabilities or features not available in production aircraft, but for most, it’s the opportunity to learn host of a new skills and the pride that comes from eventually flying something your own hands put together. A lot of first time homebuilt builders have never worked on planes before and some barely knew how to use a screwdriver when they started, and yet hundreds of these planes are completed and flown successfully every year! If you’ve got the willingness to suck at something new and persevere through your inevitable mistakes, you can absolutely take on a project like this! Good luck!
man i only got through like the first 30 sek of you showing of that cat. damn , what a beauty.... a absult STUNNER of a vessel , all alu, a dream and a true world cruiser..... such a well overall solid build it seems watching it further through indoor steering - LOVE IT , order it now!
I learned a lot while I was Captain for 5 years. of a aluminum boat first you need to epoxy both sides to protect from salt corrosion, plus all fastners need to be isolated from the aluminum, stainless steel will eat the hull and cabinsides everywhere the disimular metals touch . and be sure to cover the hull on both sides. making the aluminum into a core material. lastly make sure the eletrical system is well isolated from the hull. 1 more thing it requires Magnisum for anodes.
Her 64' , ketch rigged big sister is my dream boat also. So glad you on this path for so many proper reasons. Truly a boat and design that is well thought out , built and designed for comfort, safety, and a long sweet life doing most anything.
All the best and looking forward...😊
Mine too! She is now Paul Nicklen's Sealegecy1 and still goes on epic ocean missions
Having a Cat that can be beached is what yuuz guyz need........... You also don't need to be there during the initial build either. That part can be done with Star Link. I figure the placement of the sub-systems is more importanter 😁and seeing the water maker installed, engine placement, solar installation , battery setup, wiring diagrams ,etc. is worthy of your complete attention.
Plucky is having a ball with his build in al-u-min-ium in Vietnam , Riley and Elayna just splashed their Tri, Uma is in a refit , Ran 2 is an interesting build, Ruby Rose and Arabella recently splashed, Tally Ho and Yaba and others are getting close to completion.
My point is that there are plenty of "Build It" video's out there but watching the sub-systems go in provides a wealth of information that is not common knowledge to us not in the community but provides us with insight not usually found elsewhere............ enjoy
ps.- Luv yuuz guyz ............
That’s a nice looking aluminum cat and I know that you are a pretty patient fellow but do you really know how long it takes to build a custom boat from scratch? I mean a new production boat seems to take forever and that’s with a whole boatyard of highly specialized people who build them day in and day out. Custom boats can take two or three times longer and that’s without adding in the inevitable delays, change orders, and hiccups that will almost certainly happen. I’m not trying to discourage you, just want you to be prepared for something that’s going to seem to take much longer than you anticipated.
The big question is 'do you want to sail a boat or build one?' !
You can expect to spend 6 to 8 years building a boat but that could be more, so you have to think about spending the next 10 years in a boat shed or boat yard instead of out sailing, how old will you be in 10yrs time ? If it's really something that you must do then it will happen and if you do what Leo Sampson did and turn it into a business and employ people to help it can be fun but again that is not sailing.
What an amazing project cannot wait
Just building a boat and being heavenly involved with the spec, design and project management is enough on its own for anyone but if you intend doing a lot of the work your self's as well as running a channel then this makes it a truly big (unrealistic) undertaking. Get ready for years of 70 -80 hour weeks and then on top of the long hours on the tools doing all work of having to manage and drive the project forward with all the pressure of cost overruns and problems that goes with it. Its amazing you want to do this for you and your family, and they will think it's great for about six months and then they will resent that it costumes all you, goes on forever stopping you doing a lot of the exciting stuff you like doing as a couple/family.
If you must do a lot of the work yourself, at least get someone to build the complete hull for you and leave money in the budget for other trades to help you do a good bit of stuff along the way. Could you do it all, yes someone like you could figure it all out, but why would you want to put yourself thru all that to build a boat on this scale without any fabrication/boat building experience. On top of all this the project done this way is probably not going to make for good content for UA-cam as it will take too long, be repetitive, and will not move forward faster enough to maintain people's interest.
I know you love the aluminum look, but growing up in ‘pontoon country’ I strongly advise hull protection of some sort epoxy/paint or combo.
Even more so because pontoons boats are typically used in fresh water whereas this will live in salt water.
@@magic72it Pontoon boats are not usually made of 50xx marine series alloy, but rather 60xx structural grade, which does not age well in a marine environment. I have a 44' alu sloop launched in 2016, unpainted above the waterline and the metal is in fantastic condition. Aluminum oxide is one of the hardest substances known to man.
I find it interesting that a number of full time cruisers including myself have come to the conclusion that Aluminium is the way to go for an expedition exploration catamaran.
An approximate man hours for a 48 ft catamaran just the hulls/superstructure is about 4000 or about 2 man years.
Then the interior fitout and mast boom sails rigging engines drive train etc is again approx 2000 hrs or 1 man year.
So in total 6000 man hours or 3 man years.
And this is for someone that is used to building boats.
I think Peter from Sailing into Freedom is taking a good approach by having a catamaran built in Vietnam where skill is high relative to labour cost and the build will be quick due to the man power and enclosed facilities.
In terms of features I have been on a couple of catamarans that have dual driving locations 1 in the Saloon forward and 1 in the Cockpit for summertime sailing best of both worlds.
Like the protected rudders but also like the electric sail drives like epropulsion where the only thing going through the hulls is wiring.
Well be interesting to watch your progression on Delos 2.0
I know you've talked about stepping back from sailing for a while so nug could have some land time. I know many of us would love to see you setup shop in Sweden and start building Delos 2.0. I loved watching Mads on Sail Life rebuild his boat Athena for several years, so don't worry about loosing viewers :)
Its true - we respect the spirit of doing your own thing
I completely agree! I watch you regularly too, but I think it's illegal to steal other people's work without paying for the technology!!!
@@youtubeiu997steal other people’s work? What did they steal? Or do i dont understand sarcasm right now? 🤔
@@youtubeiu997What are you talking about? People dont put stuff on UA-cam to keep it secret. 😂
Don't forget Johan and Malin who are currently building their 50"(?) *RAN II* in Sweden from scratch. It's not a super sturdy alu cat but a cedar/fiberglass cold molded monohull. The only thing they haven't done is logging and drying the timber ... hahaha. Their progress is good (according to schedule - I think), and the plan is to do it all in 3, max 4, yrs. An advantage they have is that Johan is a skilled woodworker by trade, thus he has skills needed and knows the materials and tools they use. In addition, they also purchased a cheap old sailboat they keep in the Baltics sea. That way that they can continue their own sailing adventures while uploading sailing content. Smart.
Whatever you decide , building yourself from scratch, helping build yourself, I am on board for the journey. Will it be a challenge? 100% at times it will completely suck. But look at all you've accomplished since you and Brady started sooo many years ago. You pretty much created this whole sailing channel genre.
I say go for it! I'll be there following just like I have since the beginning 👍
She’s a beast! So cool! If anyone can pull it off, you guys can, go for it!
Congratulations guys. The smiles on your faces say it all. Well done! Best of luck with the build...best location for a build too! You'll love little old Brisvegas. Hidden 💎
Nahoa 55? :) David makes some nice designs, most of which you can see on his site. Including 60+ sizing. Portofino has some interesting features. Have a look at Plukky's new boat - he's found a builder and its flying together.
That's what I was thinking too. 😊
I did my trade as a boat builder in Brisbane. Most diy builders had the hull made, then fitted it out themselves. There's a lot of pitfalls in fabricating from scratch with no experience.
Well it's certainly possible to build from scratch and learn all the techniques and skills as you go but do you want to go sailing or do you want to spend the next 10 years in a boat shed creating your dream ?
Life's an adventure driven by mindset.
Hi Brian and Kazza. Great fun, watching your first attempts at Welding. I did a Welding Course in 1979; Gas welding and Gas Brazing. All Steel, no Aluminium. I'd never heard of Argon. We used Acetylene and Oxygen. I struggled with Gas welding, but Aced Brazing, which is still my preferred choice for joining metals. Done properly, it's stronger than welding, without the inherent problems of promoting Oxidation and Rust, because you don't change the Steel's metallic structure, as you create the puddle between the two pieces. Brazing also requires less heat, so you don't need all the extra gear, such as a welding mask. Just Green goggles will do, as you need to be able to see when the Flux liquifies. I like the boat's design. Working with Dan looks like fun and should be very informative. Looking forward to next week's episode. Fair Winds. Russ. UK.
I suggest reading up corrosion control, dissimilar metal contact and all that... as in really reading up.
I support that.
Galvanic corrosion right?
As an aluminum boat owner I cannot agree more.
It can be the perfect material if built well and taken care of with a keen eye and the right knowhow about the material.
There are alarm systems for this issue. Main thing is the boat cannot be used as an earth and the correct aluminium grade used. If the right grade is used you don't even need to paint it. But yes any power leaks can be costly.
Having followed y’all for years very excited to see the evolution of the design and fabrication process. My background is in prototype metal fabrication and just started working as the resident metal fabricator at a boat yard on Lake Superior. It’s been super interesting to see and learn the intersection of boats and metal fabrication. Very cool stuff y’all.
Looks like the Nahoa 55 which is currently build in Australia. Cool design 😎
Same naval architect, David de Villiers :)
😂 so thats why my last post got blocked .... QED.... Spoiler alert.
I started mentioning Elsie.. and ...😉
nahoa is going to be done in New Zealand mate. cheers.
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Thats where Elsie was built .. you can find and download the full story of the original build..
Theres another Australian boat family Sailing with the James's... recently started their story on a near complete raw finished Cat .. i follow they also have a little blond daughter toddler, Charlie .
Dads a professional boat/ships captain...
@@AlexKall *_ Yep, we have quite a few Boat architects and Builders from South Africa which we can be Proud of, sadly a lot of them have left S.A. due to greener pastures! _*
It looks like you're going to be using the same design the Nahoa is using which is very exciting. I love the design and really am eager to see how you make it your own.
This idea looks promising - the level of customisation you could incorporate is insane 👍
Just engineer that front door like your life depends on it, because it does!
cool boat! i would recommend having a yard build the hull in order for it to be certified. then, you guys finish it out. hull build should take a couple years, interior plus rigging should take another year or so.
I can see it now: You should buy a small farm near Malin & Johan (RAN Sailing) where you can help each other with your respective boatbuilding projects, you’ll be closer to Mormor, and Nugget and Vera can become best friends. What could be better?
Love this idea! 😂❤
Wow that is a cool video! Building a boat from the ground up is a huge project but a very rewarding accomplishment when you are done. I've seen you repair, fix and create so many things so I believe you are capable of such a task - good luck - can't wait to see more.
This reminds me of RAN Sailing. They sailed as a couple, got a baby, sailed some more. And then decided to go and build their own next boat.
Gives kids some land time.. Country living too.
Yes, and their vids soon became a bit tedious. Watching construction/rebuilds gets old and soon becomes 'I'll take a peek and see if they are making progress,' then go to another channel. Plan on losing viewers if you don't provide tons of variety.
But ran Sailing ist doing well and didn't lose any viewers
@@jetjockey48 Yeah, Sailing Ruby Rose's boat build was incredibly confusing and tedious to watch. It may have been more of a failure of storytelling than anything else. These builds can get so detail-oriented and so in-the-weeds that some of these channels forget to tell a compelling story.
You can get ‘hands-on’ without going it solo. It’s a finance or time decision. Btw welcome to the other side, once you go cat you never go back. Cheers from Oz.
The time involved is going to change your lives and to a greater extent your enthusiasm for a return to your present lifestyle.
The time building the boat will need interchange with sailing Delos on short term excursions so keep the flame burning.
As Sierra grows her landlubber legs her needs and wants will change and a return to her boat life could be difficult but she will not develop into a full grown human being stuck on a boat for her formative years so change must occur if only for that reason.
I wish you all the best for this momentous decision and only you know what that needs to be .I have learned in my 76 years that nothing stays the same and sometimes you just have to close that chapter in your book of life.
All these years and you never sailed to Greece? To Delos for example.
What a great episode. Sean is a legend, building that Catamaran himself from scratch. I think Brian building his own boat would be an amazing thing to do. Especially because of how much content you can crank out for us viewers, but I'm not gonna lie, I think it'll be a project of humongous proportions. Just thinking about the logistics of it all is mindboggling. We need like 10 Super Ryans for this lol! 😂With that said, I can't wait for you guys to embark on this journey.
Catamaran? Eeeeeww. What is with sailing youtubers in converting to boring floating palaces made for retired dentists?
A cat seems a lot safer and roomier for small children.
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Cats can get blown over, once they're upside down they're usually abandoned.
Wow, hating on Dentist...
@@m4hkn0 small children esp those born in Sweden are required by law to go to school and home schooling is not allowed. So why a cat is better for children I don't know if their daughter needs to be enrolled in school at 7. It can't be that far away.
@@dennispatrick4999 no, hating on boats for people who have given up.
I did a ground up van build. I planned 1 year and it took 5. I planned 100k and it took 200k. Its nice. But has had far more problems than a more ironed out professional product. I built it tonspend more time with the family. And ended up pretty much ghosting them for 5 years while stressing on the build at all times!There are benefits, but so far I would highly reccomended aginst it! I would imagine I would multiply all of that by 3-6X for a big boat! Also, the resale and the insurance etc etc are a nightmare. Once set, its nearly impossible to back down from the challenge, but I reallllllly hope yall do!
There are many people that have built a custom boat before. Getting a designer like Bob Perry helping you is a must. You can also talk to somebody like ‘Skip Novack’ who has had at least 2 Arctic expedition sailing boats built and been running trips for 30 years! Or the distant shores crew who are having an custom aluminum boat completed in Netherlands right now. Many other too.
Build yourself? Interesting , way less sailing , just project managing a build would be way more than a full time job!!!!!
Good luck enjoy the ride!
Cheers Warren
Kazza and Brian, it’s pretty simple really. I’m confident you are more than capable of learning to weld and knowing what a good weld looks like. Developing the skills to recognise poor welds and knowing what went wrong will probably require more time. When the boat is built and you look in the mirror and are confident that from the first weld to the last weld meets the grade, happy days. Have you given a thought as to how an insurance company will look at the project as a whole? DIY v Professional build. I doff my cap to you for even thinking about it, let alone taking it on. Love the channel and all the best. Fair winds while waiting for the next episode…
Building your wn boat!?! Best thing is you will know it inside out. There won't be anything you find out by accident. I think it's crazy, just enough to work. Good luck Delos crew!
Go for it! The change of pace will have you appreciate the lives you live. A few years of building will go by quickly. Not to mention the socializing that Sierra will have!
I had a Delos (I guess 0.1) here in New Zealand. She was a Sparkman Stevens Design and built of concrete built by Cookson boats who were later very involved in our America's cup and Volvo efforts.. She competed in the 2 handed circumnavigation race of our North Island before I bought her, but certainly not a "racing" yacht by any means although we did try. I sold her after a marriage breakup and delivered her to the South Island. We did get an absolute hammering at east cape in over 60 knots of following sea and broke the self steering rudder and the head (somebody was sitting on it) plus a completely tangled up rigging. by breaking thru the back of a wave and falling into the trough. We were dragging chains and a sea anchor at the time but still shit happens. Anyway just thought i'd share that. Wish i could do what you are doing now but age and agility has got in the way.
Wow that boat was next level!! That would be such gold content to see Brian build his next boat from scratch and with such a cool design
Delos 2.0! I'm here for it! Very exciting.
Man that’s awesome.. what a cool experience! I recall working with me father on his modifications on his C&C 3/4 ton though the winter. We were like kids on Christmas Morning when the boat was dropped in the drink early spring. The excitement of this is completely on another level (like 4 levels up) and add the fact you have fans from across the world watching this.. I can’t wait to see how you decide to approach this new endeavor!
I did not know Dan was so young. I have been watching his builds of the cats for a while now. Amazing work he has done
If there is one thing good people love, it's honesty. Well done.
A Change is as good as a holiday , Your still young enough to make this happen , Once committed you will find time flys by & each stage will be a wonderful high & at the end the satisfaction is immense = Go for it , Just have the right site nailed down dots & Ts crossed .
What a quandary. To somehow maintain a loyal subscribership while parenting a nugget into wider social circles. Yet not... some will continue to share your life journey, and the loss of others will be replaced with some nuts yearning to be shipwrights. Enjoy the new phase!!
Awesome brian and kazza, dont worry about the doubters , you do you , if you want to experience your own build DO IT ! If your in Oz or NZ might just give you a hand
I've seen a lot of channels build and move to new boats. I'm the most excited to see where this ends up!
Just buy that one, or ask him to make the same, and start fitting it out :D Even doing that would be such a monumental task. I also think the actual tools to build one would cost a lot too.
I was supporting through Patreon MJ Sailing, Gone with the Wynns and Sailing Uma until they started building/buying new boats or going through an extensive refit. While I respect their decisions, I'm willing to help out people sailing and discovering new places, not being stuck in a boat yard for years on end.