@@Psoasmusclepain if you go back and listen again, I explained (hope I did anyway😅) that if you create to music/beats that have already been written THEN they own that music/beats 100% or 50% of the song.
@@Psoasmusclepain my apology for making you feel like you needed to say that. I didn’t mean for it to come across that way. I don’t mind whatsoever making sure you are clear. I’ve often needed clarification on many things. That’s the way it is sometimes. You just don’t get it! So don’t feel bad at all. Please forgive me for making you feel that way. God bless you! 🤗
I get no money from my archived YT channel, so I'm not shilling, but I would love to have a conversation with you about the curious case of Eric Clapton. He was so powerful and influential that in the 70s and 80s, he managed to borrow or flat-out steal without proper credit or paying for a number of his hits. In fact, to this day, you'll find that most of his signature songs are credited to him when he's never written a lyric, and likely never written a vocal melody. After he made the racist comments, he made some of those people financially whole, but some of them still haven't received credit, including Rita Coolidge on the "Layla" coda and Marcy Detroit for the "Wonderful Tonight" lyrics. But he's in the Hall of Fame 3x, more than any artist. Sickening. And I love the music. Thanks!
Sounds about right to me. And now a lot of songwriters can understand that when another writer comes to the table first, with harmony and rhythmic parts. And they choose to write words and melody to it. The first writer should be granted at least 50% of the composition. True part about it all is that harmonic progressions and rhythm parts can’t be copyrighted unless it’s very different and unique. But most times it’s a no go. Awhile back. I used to think that a composition was the writing of the words if any, melody and chords (harmonic structure). But technically it’s just the words and melody. Even the chords with a unique rhythm is just written as an arrangement. Because a song can be harmonized 50 to 100 different ways with changing progressions. Thanks for this info.
Im a producer... If someone hires me to create music to a lyric and melody Im asking for a percentage during negotiations... I know what I bring to the table... The song wouldn't be great without me "writing'" music to it... There are plenty of musicians that will "create/write for hire" but not me. I believe I deserve to be blessed off of the success of what I and WE created... Just my thoughts and view... Im an artist as well and I share percentages with people when they create with me... Its just being a fair person.
Who’s arguing? You get what you negotiate. Kudos for handling your business! There is still basic knowledge on how things work. Yet, what people agree to is what it is.
Great humility in you both making confessions. Also I agree with understanding your worth and negotiating a percentage once your effort has been put into a work, for the Lord Jesus said the workman is worthy of his meat.
Thank you for this video, it was quite insightful. I got one question in regards to writing, if I write a song myself and maybe used a line from another artist's song, do I have to credit them and pay them for using that line?
Thank you! Yes you do! You have to credit them when you copyright the song and you would need a mechanical license to use the song when and if you recorded it.
Thank you so much! This was so helpful! I only wish I had seen this video before starting my current music project. Here's my situation. At the time the project started, I wasn't confident in my guitar skills, so I looked for a collaborator. I also didn't have a budget to pay someone to help me. So I asked a friend who plays keyboard to help. I wrote the lyrics and melodies and I created the chord progressions. I sent tracks to her with my vocals and guitar or ukulele. She created keyboard tracks. I was so happy to have someone to work with that I offered her 1/3 of the rights to the songs (10 songs for now). I'm getting ready to copyright the songs as a collection (not an album because they may not all be together on the same album or EP). I'm now wondering if I should talk to her again about the situation or if I should just let this previous agreement stand. What do you think? From what I think you're saying, it looks like she is an arranger. But the arrangement is rough and probably won't be the final arrangement. Thanks for your help!
You’re welcome I’m glad you found me! Knowledge is so powerful. Keep watching! Please understand that your heart was kind and you made an agreement with her. Please keep your word. It’s not her fault that you didn’t fully understand at that point. Now that you are learning just do better in your future endeavors. Don’t change on her like that, when you were the one who made the offer. The last thing you want is to develop a reputation and no one will want to work with you in the future. We’ve all made less than the best decisions on our journeys. You’ll be alright!
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply!! I appreciate it! You know, I was pretty sure I was offering too much. But at the time I just didn't see a way to move forward without someone's help at this level. Now I'm making a lot of strides playing the ukulele and I'm more confident now that I can approach a producer with my voice and the ukulele and I won't need the intermediary. But you confirmed what I was thinking: I have to honor our deal. It doesn't mean, however, that in the future I have to do everything through her with our current arrangement. Thanks again!
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Update and new question: I've learned a lot since my last question and your reply! So the composition copyright for the 1st song was filed with the original agreement in tact and eventually I'll have her sign a split sheet. But I paid a "producer for hire" to do the track. I am the vocalist and I'm taking care of all the business and expenses. In light of this, is it ok for me to keep 100% of the sound recording copyright? Thanks so much!
@@birdy27designs77 don’t eventually do it, do it always before any work is done if possible, so have her sign it right away. Any “for hire” agreement keeps you as the owner so you own the master. It wouldn’t hurt to include that verbiage as well.
Good afternoon Mariea. I gotta a question for you. Would you say that arranging falls under music production as a phase. As maybe the first phase or step? Or would you say it’s it’s own thing. Many producer friends say that it’s part of production. And some say it’s not and it’s part of songwriting or composing. I believe it’s a step in its own. Would do you say?
It depends on the situation. If a songwriter also has arranging skills, they may arrange for certain instruments as they go. Or, they may decide to do it later. They may decide they would want a string arrangement, it could be later or as the writer is writing or during the production phase. It depends… One thing is for certain there has to be a song for an arrangement of any kind to be made. When that happens? It depends…!
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy ok. That makes perfect sense. Usually when I work with a singer/songwriter. I most likely all the time have an arrangement of drums, bass, keys and synths for them to write their song too. If the process is pretty good. Thanks for the reply. 👍🏾
Let me start by saying this; remember, everything is negotiable. If you agree to allow an engineer or anyone for that matter to have a percentage of a song, you can. Normally, however, engineers are generally paid for their services by the hour, or a flat fee for the anticipated cost of a session. Thanks for watching!
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Thank you very much for your reply 😉😉 I don't know if the website (where I found the answers "Primary Artist") is eligible . Can you advice me some reliable site ? I try Spotify, but all I found is who's the Artist. They didn't have a list mention who is the song write, or who is the composer, who write the lyrics, and producer… etc
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OK, but what happens if you get the instrumentals from somewhere like BeatStars or Ginger how does that work?
@@Psoasmusclepain if you go back and listen again, I explained (hope I did anyway😅) that if you create to music/beats that have already been written THEN they own that music/beats 100% or 50% of the song.
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy sorry disabled woman sometimes I need clarification
@@Psoasmusclepain my apology for making you feel like you needed to say that. I didn’t mean for it to come across that way. I don’t mind whatsoever making sure you are clear. I’ve often needed clarification on many things. That’s the way it is sometimes. You just don’t get it! So don’t feel bad at all. Please forgive me for making you feel that way. God bless you! 🤗
I get no money from my archived YT channel, so I'm not shilling, but I would love to have a conversation with you about the curious case of Eric Clapton. He was so powerful and influential that in the 70s and 80s, he managed to borrow or flat-out steal without proper credit or paying for a number of his hits. In fact, to this day, you'll find that most of his signature songs are credited to him when he's never written a lyric, and likely never written a vocal melody. After he made the racist comments, he made some of those people financially whole, but some of them still haven't received credit, including Rita Coolidge on the "Layla" coda and Marcy Detroit for the "Wonderful Tonight" lyrics. But he's in the Hall of Fame 3x, more than any artist. Sickening. And I love the music. Thanks!
Very important for music fans to listen to! People don't realize how complex credits are.
You explained this perfectly! I had been wondering about this for a while. Wish I had an entertainment attorney like you. Thanks for sharing!
You’re welcome!
Thank you for such a great video. You answered all my questions in a very succinct manner. ❤
You’re welcome! Glad it helped! 🤗
Keep these videos coming, it helped me out in my first songwriting/publishing meeting
That's so great to know! Thank you for sharing that! God bless you!
Same to you!
Very HELPFUL! Thanks for the KNOWLEDGE Queen
Thank you so much! I sincerely appreciate the feedback!
Sounds about right to me. And now a lot of songwriters can understand that when another writer comes to the table first, with harmony and rhythmic parts. And they choose to write words and melody to it. The first writer should be granted at least 50% of the composition. True part about it all is that harmonic progressions and rhythm parts can’t be copyrighted unless it’s very different and unique. But most times it’s a no go. Awhile back. I used to think that a composition was the writing of the words if any, melody and chords (harmonic structure). But technically it’s just the words and melody. Even the chords with a unique rhythm is just written as an arrangement. Because a song can be harmonized 50 to 100 different ways with changing progressions. Thanks for this info.
You’re welcome!
Makes perfect sense to me.
Im a producer... If someone hires me to create music to a lyric and melody Im asking for a percentage during negotiations... I know what I bring to the table... The song wouldn't be great without me "writing'" music to it... There are plenty of musicians that will "create/write for hire" but not me. I believe I deserve to be blessed off of the success of what I and WE created... Just my thoughts and view...
Im an artist as well and I share percentages with people when they create with me... Its just being a fair person.
Who’s arguing? You get what you negotiate. Kudos for handling your business! There is still basic knowledge on how things work. Yet, what people agree to is what it is.
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Not arguing at all sorry it came off that way lol…
@@mr._taylormade not at all… just a figure of speech… my apology back to you!
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy No problem! Thanks for replying 💪🏾❤️🔥💯
Great humility in you both making confessions. Also I agree with understanding your worth and negotiating a percentage once your effort has been put into a work, for the Lord Jesus said the workman is worthy of his meat.
Thanks for this!
You’re welcome!
Thank you for this video. :)
You’re welcome Erick! I’m glad you watched it!
Thank you for this video, it was quite insightful. I got one question in regards to writing, if I write a song myself and maybe used a line from another artist's song, do I have to credit them and pay them for using that line?
Thank you! Yes you do! You have to credit them when you copyright the song and you would need a mechanical license to use the song when and if you recorded it.
What if you help the artist come up with melodies on how to perform/sing on the beat/instrumental. Should you be given credit at least?
Thank you.
If you help create the melody, you both should agree on what percentage of the song should be yours.
Thank you so much! This was so helpful! I only wish I had seen this video before starting my current music project. Here's my situation. At the time the project started, I wasn't confident in my guitar skills, so I looked for a collaborator. I also didn't have a budget to pay someone to help me. So I asked a friend who plays keyboard to help. I wrote the lyrics and melodies and I created the chord progressions. I sent tracks to her with my vocals and guitar or ukulele. She created keyboard tracks. I was so happy to have someone to work with that I offered her 1/3 of the rights to the songs (10 songs for now). I'm getting ready to copyright the songs as a collection (not an album because they may not all be together on the same album or EP). I'm now wondering if I should talk to her again about the situation or if I should just let this previous agreement stand. What do you think? From what I think you're saying, it looks like she is an arranger. But the arrangement is rough and probably won't be the final arrangement. Thanks for your help!
You’re welcome I’m glad you found me! Knowledge is so powerful. Keep watching!
Please understand that your heart was kind and you made an agreement with her. Please keep your word. It’s not her fault that you didn’t fully understand at that point. Now that you are learning just do better in your future endeavors. Don’t change on her like that, when you were the one who made the offer. The last thing you want is to develop a reputation and no one will want to work with you in the future.
We’ve all made less than the best decisions on our journeys. You’ll be alright!
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply!! I appreciate it! You know, I was pretty sure I was offering too much. But at the time I just didn't see a way to move forward without someone's help at this level. Now I'm making a lot of strides playing the ukulele and I'm more confident now that I can approach a producer with my voice and the ukulele and I won't need the intermediary. But you confirmed what I was thinking: I have to honor our deal. It doesn't mean, however, that in the future I have to do everything through her with our current arrangement. Thanks again!
@@birdy27designs77 exactly! You’re welcome! 🤗
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Update and new question: I've learned a lot since my last question and your reply! So the composition copyright for the 1st song was filed with the original agreement in tact and eventually I'll have her sign a split sheet. But I paid a "producer for hire" to do the track. I am the vocalist and I'm taking care of all the business and expenses. In light of this, is it ok for me to keep 100% of the sound recording copyright? Thanks so much!
@@birdy27designs77 don’t eventually do it, do it always before any work is done if possible, so have her sign it right away. Any “for hire” agreement keeps you as the owner so you own the master. It wouldn’t hurt to include that verbiage as well.
Good afternoon Mariea. I gotta a question for you. Would you say that arranging falls under music production as a phase. As maybe the first phase or step? Or would you say it’s it’s own thing. Many producer friends say that it’s part of production. And some say it’s not and it’s part of songwriting or composing. I believe it’s a step in its own. Would do you say?
It depends on the situation. If a songwriter also has arranging skills, they may arrange for certain instruments as they go. Or, they may decide to do it later. They may decide they would want a string arrangement, it could be later or as the writer is writing or during the production phase. It depends… One thing is for certain there has to be a song for an arrangement of any kind to be made. When that happens? It depends…!
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy ok. That makes perfect sense. Usually when I work with a singer/songwriter. I most likely all the time have an arrangement of drums, bass, keys and synths for them to write their song too. If the process is pretty good. Thanks for the reply. 👍🏾
@@sagcap7927 you’re welcome.
Dr Watkins, are audio engineers entitled to a percentage of a song?
Let me start by saying this; remember, everything is negotiable. If you agree to allow an engineer or anyone for that matter to have a percentage of a song, you can. Normally, however, engineers are generally paid for their services by the hour, or a flat fee for the anticipated cost of a session. Thanks for watching!
Hi can you show work for hire contract
If the credit is "Primary Artist" , does it mean the composer is also the artist ?
If the composer actually performed the song then they would be considered the Artist.
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy
Thank you very much for your reply 😉😉
I don't know if the website (where I found the answers "Primary Artist") is eligible .
Can you advice me some reliable site ?
I try Spotify, but all I found is who's the Artist.
They didn't have a list mention who is the song write, or who is the composer, who write the lyrics, and producer… etc
@@paulchan8008 I don’t understand your question, nor do I understand what you’re looking for. What are you looking for or what are you trying to do?
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy
I wish to know who's the composer (esp the piano part) of 《Golden Hour》by JVKE.
@@paulchan8008 Jake and Zachary Lawson.
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Nice one 👍 LISONGPIJAM
Thank you!