The Chinese Top Tier Grind Is Finally Worth It With The J-10A
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
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Fuel: max
Ammo: Air Targets
Missiles: 6x PL-12 + PL5E-II
Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
Crew: maxed (lvl 75) + expert
Outro: A.N.O. - Vanish
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Last time I was this early she left me
Lmfao
Nawwww
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Last time you were this early you spaffed in your boxers before the escort agency confirmed your booking
This plane is basically a meta J-7E on steroids.
No that's a J-7G
@@joshualeespiny7172 no that's an J-7H
J-7 -> J-9B-VI -> J-10
J7-j9-j10and j20. Both of j10 and j20 are based on the uncomplicated object j9.
Or just a j10
8:18 “it’s only an Su-27” man the Su-27s fm hurts my soul
it is literally how the su27 is. wait for the su30 and the su35 if you want a flanker with any chance in dogfights lol
"Worlds most manouverable fighter"
Was fully stock yesterday in the j10 took on a decent su 27 player he was dead in the first turn, felt like I was fighting a mig 21.
@@goose9941 The mig21 shits on the su27 lmao
Meanwhile in dcs a tvc su30 is one turning an i16 that plane is hilarious
in 4:10 For me and for you, it was the first meeting with the J-10A, so I did not know how to fight against the J-10A. After this duel, I started to fear the J-10A as much as the Gripen on My Mirage 2000
As an f15 pilot I am scared of my first meeting with it, no idea how to counter the j10 in an f15
@@theperson5185Your best shot is forcing a 2 circle fight at your ideal rate speed which is about 600-700km or so. if the J10 forces a one circle,stall and try to go into a rolling scissors fight or a vertical fight where you are at least of disadvantage and have a chance of forcing a 2 circle
@@altacc0604eugh don't 2 circle, you need to 4 skin.
@@altacc0604
I was thinking of that too
@@altacc0604 try your best to deny them forcing a 1 circle. Most of the time this is done when they are already in an offset 2 circle, or they create an offset 2 circle by going up and then down while in the 2 circle, which creates an offset. Counter this attack by also following by going up and then down to keep the fight in a non-offset 2 circle. If u want i can try find a DCS video that explained this with a mig29 and f16c
The J-10 is such a nice looking aircraft, there’s just some about all the missiles under the wing that just give it such a cool look.
J-10 B and C variant looks a lot better. Can't wait for that to come on WT
Really hate delta wings as a look honestly but just personal preferance. Same reason I dont like the mirages.
Come on man deltas are the shit, though I prefer the air intake of this one
@@corrodan2995 I personally like some delta wings but I can understand why some might not
@@gianlucamattos8684 ehhh not really just preference tbh
11:50 the teammate missile the dead guy is the realest war thunder experience ever
I wasn't aware he had a teammate left the entire time
It's pretty nuts how dogfights in jets like these sometimes end up looking like two falling leaves.
4:01 boop :3 This is going into my Defyn sound compilation
Defussy is truly the reviewer of all time
Defussy is making my Aim120 act unwisely
J-10.. in Battlefield 2 was beast... yes we are speaking about year 2005 , DEFYN wasn't born that time.
Even your videos just showcasing a jet are insanely informativ about everything going on in game.
Seriously appreciate the content man.
8:58 Most of the missiles in the game wont actually hit the ground, they will proxy fuse above the ground, which often causes them to detonate in front of you. In fact you can see this happen in the video if you pause and go frame by frame. I don't know if it's realistic or not, but its how war thunder handles missile proximity fuse.
Still not realistic lol
@@DEFYN Dont Fox-3's IRL solve the multipathing problem that fox-1's had and in turn not have a multipathing effect?
It depends on the missile but modern amraams multipath at like 5 meters I think
I am strictly talking about the explosion when it hits the ground
@@yazi_b0i63 Flying low will not save you from a current day BVRAAM like an Aim120C/D or an R-77.
@@lukewhitehouse4103they aren’t gonna proxy on the ground anyway
That plane defynitely makes me want to grind Chinese tree.
No, wait...i actualy don't want to do that, the grind is obscene- but I HAVE TO. I got got by Gaijin already.
Man i remembered playing j10 on battlefield 2 back in the day, what a nostalgia
9:30 so.... cockblock the missile?
I'm glad you already made the joke, cause I was typing it 😂.
I've seen missiles just track and fly straight through those pillars, Gaijin hitbox
Well, the missile didn’t make it into his engine exhaust after all
9:30 not exactly, missiles very often just ignore the textures of these pillars and fly right through
@@smigoltime the edges yeah, they rarely go through the middle
i've seen AI aircraft pass through those pillars and out the other end
I've actually flown through one of the pillars while in a turn trying to jink a G 91 in a Sea hawk . It only took my wing tips . Then I exited the. Crashed because I hit the center .
Lmao smigol
@@DEFYN i have seen them past through the middle so i wouldnt be sure... some of those pilars are non existent
The j10 is a menace. It honestly feels very similar to the Gripen but holds energy better at sub Mach speeds
Great show! Finally! Big fan here of delta-canard. I can't wait to see the French Rafale in the game.
nothing like some cocky pillars after work
9:01 i also noticed this splash problem is only with SARH/ARH missiles, when you flare a heat seeker and it hit the ground it does nothing, but multipath a aim-120 with it's powerful warhead of 9kg of TNTe, fleeing from the explosion at mach 1, 50m above the ground and boom your engine is dead cause of fragments(that traveled like a good 90~120m to get your plane in less than 0.1/0.03 sec)
Again great video well played as usual
The vicious dragon
when you can beat a multi thousand match pilot in his main plane whilst playing a new release plane in your third game, it truely speaks to how good you are at this game brother
I have a model of the J-10 in my bedroom, and I was so excited to see it added in the game (though i'll probably never get to top tier lol)
11:50 the teammate missile guy is the realest warthunder player ever
Man, I love the looks of J-10A and Typhoon
I love you Defyn
Psychologist: Temu Typhoon isn't real and can't hurt you
Meanwhile Temu Typhoon:
J10 designed since early 70s, get a life
Pfps that absolutely match the opinion @@theneef174
@@theneef174 The J-10 program was approved in 1986, and the plane became operationnal in 2006, it's literally newer than the Eurofighter, of wich you can check the important dates yourself. Wikipedia is a formidable website.
L bozo 🤡
@@Onezmhu The J-10 is a further development of the J-9, which is cancelled in 1980. So the idea predates the Typhoons. Also, upon closer inspection the aerodynamic of these planes are different as well, if anything the position of the canards are more similar to the Rafale.
Mad because the Chinese can design a better plane than your shitty westoid nations.
that last f15 is my spirit animal, no idea what im doing, but im doing something
I call this the Pseudofighter typhoon.
ty
Shoving the Vigorous Dragon up someone's exhaust
10:26 That guy with an extremely long Chinese name is me! (Although I have changed my name already)
Can’t wait to see the title “ Germany tech tree grind finally worth it with euro fighter”
Temu Eurofighter
That first clip slapped
To be fair to the F-15 at the end there, apparently J'ing out costs you more lions than being full KO'd even though it's supposed to cost less
Ngl, haven't played WT since they introduced Fox-3s. I wanna grind the F-15C but I'm afraid of the sheer pub-stomping I'm gonna get from playing my F-15A against all the FOX-3 Jets. Basically have to play pure defense until all missiles are gone and then i can finally do anything with my Fox-1s.
Just play the f16d or any other plane to grind the F-15 simple
It’s not that hard, it’s just muscle memory after a certain point
@@MeNamesPoshOpossum yeah but you are pretty much useless in the fox-3 meta without fox-3. I did use myself as a bait to waste enemy missiles with the F-15J and then attack but it takes to much time and you team will die. So i just started to multipath and use terrain to get into Fox-2 Range and sling IRCCM to have at least some impact
@@MeNamesPoshOpossum true that, I’d probably be fine with the muscle memory I’ve got already. Just worrying about all the dead matches I’ll get more often than ever before. FOX 3 Team wipes, me or another LMS after 3 minutes, furballs being Insta death now, etc.
When I saw the trailer I thought it was the euro fighter for a second 😭
I haven’t talked to my kids in years
the j10 makes me excited for the typhoon
5000 social credits received 😊
in reality it can hang fuel tank under body,gaijin did the model already but not add it in game
this thing looks so goofy from the default cam position, just a long ass stick
Do you know you can use HMD without going in the mode for IR missiles? Just use free-look button and watch around while seeker is active.
I smell netherlands behind your voice accent
Ah, especially with the white skin, this is giving me battlefield 2 nostalgia
"It's only a SU27" The state of realism at this BR is... Awkward
what do you mean ? Su-27s are abysmal in real life too specifically the models we have in game suck
@@bigmemer4398 The Su 27 flight model has always been designed to be an above average dogfighter, especiall in the 1 circle fight. Even the early variants. That's literally the base of the Soviet/Russian doctrine.
Not the missile bus that Gaijin proposes.The Su-27 short range missile kit in WT (R73) is too efficient for its own good, Gaijin had to nerf the Sukhoi to it to make it more fair overall. Like the polar opposite to "real life".
@@bigmemer4398 Stop watching too much Western propaganda. Flankers are not abysmal IRL and can definitely fly better than they currently do in WT
@@maxwellmaragia2272ok Z, flankers are avionic limited, they seem to preform well when placed in mock dogfights but where situational awareness is key Flankers are abysmal.
@@awoekhn7421 You don't have the attention span to read a single sentence? We are speaking of flight performance, not avionics. It was nerfed because it had better and more missiles. Now thats not the case but they forgot to un-nerf it when aim120 was added so it has both shit flight performance and equal or slightly worse weapons
defyn has a complete package ;)
Would you consider making a video for both the F-111C and F-111F highlighting the differences in performance? The C should be worse even though it's the same BR, but I'm dying to know what difference the longer wings make. Also if these planes are pure pain at 11.7 or not.
I will fly the F and talk about the differences
I cannot take flying this again but its even worse
The C is beyond abysmal
@@DEFYN Oh well, don't worry if it's that bad then. Gaijin has clearly put them at too high a BR.
You called it cocky pillars hahahhaha
Thank you Gaijin. Last thing we needed is another overpowered Chinese plane.
"overpowered" This is at most on the levels of the Gripens
@@ArielK-a and Gripens aren't broken? Flying a Gripen is essentially easy mode.
Bro pure usa biased
Tf do you mean “another”?
Last one was arguably the j7e😂 and this one isnt even broken either, just outrange it or run it out of cms
the bluetooth device is ready to pair *I put the new forgis on the jeep*
I swear every single match I played recently with the Super Etendard, it has always been a China mirror match. It's so annoying.
Its a shame that my country Serbia went for Rafale as a new plane. This one was an option for us, but sadly we had to choose to more expensive (sure better quality) plane under political pressure. But being the European country with such an exotic plane would be interesting in so many ways.
Nah man your in the 1% that thinks Serbia getting j10 is a better deal then rafale
J10c is arguable ngl@@sule.A
@@sule.A mind you that we paid 2.7 billion dollars for 12 planes, and the weapon contract wasn't even made yet.
You stupid? Probably yes.
@@abdallah5906 Rafale is vastly superior, with the top IRST and primary + axillary sensor suite and EW system for modern jets
The problem to me is why Serbia would need only 12 of these super advanced jets and not more than 12 cheaper and easier J-10Cs
1/4 of the way to it already
@DEFYN so when are the Grammys going to be held? Luv to know whos the best one from over the Year 😋
Spoiler, @ 9:55, Defyn re-creates a small portion of the Chinese movie... Top Fung: Majordick
Is this more worth it than grinding the SU-27
Temy Typhoon horde really should try to get a good look at their backs
"TeMu TyPhOoN 🤓☝️"
@Sukhoi_Su-34 Right, so you turn your head until you see your back and hear a loud snapping noise...
@@lapantony Shush you lobotomy survivor
@lapantony Shush you lobotomy survivor
Haven't grinded China, so it'll take a year for me to get this
They finally added xi jinping
Looks goofy, I love it
Day 1 of defyn is the nb 1 pilot in wt
defyn more like goonyn
Is j10a special? As j11a was added after j11, adding j10a is kinda weird. or there isn't j10 variant?
Here it is, the bing chilling mobile.
😢sadly it got bias nerfed now,any double roll will break wings😢
Perfectly balanced, nerf Grippen
Funny cause im sure Missiles dont even explode when they hit the ground
5:25 he see's an F-18? is that what the harrier comes up as? AFAIK the hornet isnt there yet
Yes, the AV8B Plus (I think) and the F-20 use the same radar as the F-18, so they appear as F-18 on the RWR
Hi I’m tired
Very hard to see this as a german main
It’s sad the Su-27 performs so badly in this game 😢
When first released in dev server, lots of people pleaded and begged for it to be nerfed
@@maxwellmaragia2272 I have never ever heard anyone say that. I only heard and thought the opposite on all the Su dev servers
I personally love using the SU 27sm works great for me
I really like you and your videos but why this scam in the beginning ?
chinese players getting their hand held again
Whats next
Is china worth grinding to top tier?
Shout out to the people who don't skip the intro 🤟 0:26
The glazing is crazy
This is really weird gameplay, Defyn, are you enjoying this? Stupid question, of course it is. But you just stick to the ground, no manoeuvres, just shooting rockets, that's all. I can see why it's advantageous to stick to the ground, but it's a really different game when compared to what I'm used to from the props.
Top tier and fun has always been mutually exclusive you know
Fist second in the video and I know he is Dutch 😂
Sleep sounds nice but Defyn just uploaded content on a sussy new jet so...
Fly behind the coc
How do I get your decal on console
Or is it?
Can top tier get any worse for russian jets? Can we have an actual flight performance? Like gaijin nerfed mig29 and su27 to the ground cause of R27ER. That missile was nowhere near as dangerous as AMRAM. At least give russian jets bre nerf to the ground flight model.
I want the temu typhoon with aliexpress magics :(
Game audio was hella loud this time, could barely hear you man
+19G and -9G…. Everyone that bitched about the gripen pulling 15 in a mach 1.8 snap roll, WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU NOW?
this plane is the new pogging pegger (rip f8 crusader)
*realism
Great aircraft but I have always hated the look of delta wings. Especially ones with canards.
its not your type.... right? same, like some aircraft like F35, SU-35, JF-31...
Is it true that the ACM/HDM range is actually 20km?
Okay just heard it is mistake. I hope they change the label and not change the range to 10km.
Long Live Ali Express
How does it not even burn fuel?
This plane is so busted.
it burn a lot, defyn was at 101% most of the time outside battle. at 110% its like 4 or 5 seconds per second
Temo Eurofigter.
Update 3 without Germany ):
Is it possible to install ge for wt on iOS now that iOS 17.4 is available or is it still impossible??
The Temu Typhoon
More like Temu Lavi, J10 bares much more resemblance to the IAI Lavi
@@the_bean_farmer more like nothing to do with those aircraft and better than both
0:03 do you know what crew slot you use for the 109 G6, and the fuel amount