Scanning photographic film on an Epson V800 using EPSON Scan and SilverFast

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  • @richardgreene5119
    @richardgreene5119 2 роки тому +4

    Sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Concise, informative, and beneficial. Thank you & praise God for sharing your talent with humanity.

  • @pierluigialessandrini
    @pierluigialessandrini 6 років тому +1

    I'm getting closer to the analog after many years and I'm glad to discover that I'm not alone !!! beautiful tutorial...thank you!

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      Happy to hear this! All the best

  • @8amfilms
    @8amfilms 5 років тому +2

    I would love it you kept making Epson Scan videos. There is no one else doing it really. Not to this depth and I'm sort of in a similar situation. Would love more input!

  • @ousmand742
    @ousmand742 6 років тому +4

    Great tutorial.. Really gave me an idea of the functionality and strength of both programs.. If there is one thing I would add to this is that you didnt open up your levels.. By that I mean both of these programs automatically clip information in the highlights and the shadows. Its a very simple and crucial process that this information is retrieved. With this information the file you get has more dynamic range, color prossibily, and more room to play with in post-process/grading... Other than that.. Thank you for the comparison!!

  • @PalKrammer
    @PalKrammer Рік тому

    Important tip for the V800: on the negative carrier, there are several sliders that adjust the height at various points around the carrier. There is a default setting for each slider which is indicated by a triangular mark. It is easy for these sliders to get moved off the default setting if you're unaware of them. Perhaps that's why some people have poor sharpness. Supposedly, a person would adjust each of the sliders as an experiment for best sharpness. I leave mine on the default setting and results are outstanding.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  Рік тому

      That some great advice! Thanks for sharing your insights.

  • @carongraham3896
    @carongraham3896 6 років тому

    We use this scanner for scanning our glass plate negatives and we have thousands of B&W negatives of various sizes that date back to 1910. What I find frustrating is putting the 35mm film in the holders as the solid black line that defines the beginning or end of the frame is always in the middle of the scanned piece. Love the vid, and learnt so much with regards to Silverfast as we also have that but have never used it. Now I will have a go with the colour negatives that we have. Thank you so much.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  2 роки тому

      Yes, scanning with those masks can be bothersome. I've adapted DSLR scanning in the meanwhile. Works quite well.

  • @markharris5771
    @markharris5771 6 років тому +1

    Fantastic tutorial, I can’t believe that was 25 minutes I was enthralled. You are incredibly concise and clear with everything really well explained. I’ve had my v800 about 18 months and I’ve hardly used it, mainly because I mostly shoot B&W 35mm because I wet print them. I’m extremely obsessive about dust with mine and dust, keep my scanner covered, put my frames in bags in a drawer, dry my negs in the bathroom, then cut them and file them there as well, use a very soft anti static brush for the negs and negs holder, microfibre duster for the scanner when I get it out and put it away etc. I’m not normally like this, I just find prevention better than cure with the dust. I believe if you go over a resolution of 3200 the scanner the uses interpolation rather than true resolution. I’ve also has trouble finding films like Fuji Pro 160ns before now on Silverfast and ended up with a really strange magenta cast like Cokin filters. Thank you very much for putting this video up, it’s been really useful. Of course I’ve subscribed.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому +1

      Thanks Mark! Yeah, scanning film for me is more of a social thing- so I can post stuff on Instagram or just have a good quality digital record (for faster viewing). I do a lot of darkroom work too, so that's really where my focus goes :) Fuji films I find generally difficult in terms of getting the colours right.

  • @FenderSidekick
    @FenderSidekick 6 років тому +1

    Great walkthrough. I considering getting a v850

  • @DeanoTXR53
    @DeanoTXR53 5 років тому

    Nice video! I know most don't like using sharpening in the scan software, but the one instance it seems to have a huge benefit vs PS or LR sharpening is when you have negatives that do not lay flat. The scanner software (epsonscan in particular) does a good job at getting nice even sharpness in even with badly bowed negatives. From my experience, PS and LR struggle in that case.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  5 років тому

      Yes, and if you're just using it for small prints, small images on websites or uploading to instagram even, there's no need for all the extra work in LR or PS. :)

  • @NickExposed
    @NickExposed 6 років тому

    How have I not seen this? Was geeked to see the birds in flight shot matted and framed one the wall ♥️

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      It's always up there inspiring me!

  • @JarvisGrant
    @JarvisGrant 7 років тому +1

    Good info, thanks. One thing, instead of using alcohol on the neg, I would recommend Kodak Photo-Flo, which you can find online. Use it in the same way you suggest using the alcohol. Just got an Epson V800 and I was looking for info on how to remove that "clear" plastic plate in the film holder. Well I guess it's suppose to be there! Probaly something to do with using Unsharp Mask. At any rate, thanks a lot.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  7 років тому

      Great, thanks for that tip! I'll definitely keep it in mind! Yes, the clear plastic plate unfortunately doesn't add much to the image sharpness. You can buy some high quality glass and make your own film holder though. I've seen some people do this and tried it once myself. In my experience the differences were quite minimal though. Thanks for the feedback!

    • @jakobolszewski6034
      @jakobolszewski6034 6 років тому

      Just use the filmholders of Epson V700 (as many users do) and your results will be much better. The holders are not expensive and allow to scan more negatives as additional benefit as well

    • @JarvisGrant
      @JarvisGrant 6 років тому

      Thanks. I was actually looking into that for the 120 holder. Saw them new at Amazon.

  • @jakobolszewski6034
    @jakobolszewski6034 6 років тому +1

    Good vid. Only one remark: dust removal option only works for color negatives or slides but not for b&w. Thus it makes no sense to choose that option for b&w even with the low value

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      Thanks! I've had the dust removal work with black and white though.

    • @jakobolszewski6034
      @jakobolszewski6034 6 років тому +1

      Jahan Saber It’s technically impossible as both dust and silver crystals are reflective to IR rays, hence the scanner considers the film material as dust..

  • @furlongpoletreasures6977
    @furlongpoletreasures6977 4 роки тому

    Where did you get the plug in flat "light table"? Please provide link to purchase site. Love the video, thank you.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  4 роки тому

      From amazon but the product doesn't exist there anymore ..

  • @Alex_Soldatov
    @Alex_Soldatov 6 років тому +3

    Is only I see, that epson scan result are actually much better than silverfast? More "filmy", exactly right - a littlebit softy film contrast, reach tonality and more pleased overall color balance.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      That's possible - at the end of the day it's always a matter of taste. I just prefer silverfast for colour because I know the colours are more accurate! :)

  • @IrisHouseProductions
    @IrisHouseProductions 6 років тому +1

    Hello, I really enjoyed your tutorial. I do have a question. Have you ever tried to scan 120 slides in paper mounts?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      Thank you! I have not, I don't know if the sharpness will be optimal though?

  • @jenspi4725
    @jenspi4725 6 років тому +1

    Hi, great tutorial. Do you know if the Silverfast software for the V800 also works on the V850? Thanks.

  • @scottpeterman2439
    @scottpeterman2439 6 років тому +1

    Thank you so much for the information. Greatly appreciated. Scott Peterman Peterman Photography

  • @VivaLaFilm
    @VivaLaFilm 7 років тому +2

    Great vid! I wish I had a Epson scanner to do my 120 film!.. Instead I have a shoebox that I have made into a light box, by making some holes into it, where I put my flash on one side and my film on the other and take photos of the illuminated negs, it’s the longest work flow but cheap 😂

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  7 років тому

      Yes, that was something I considered doing at some point but I had to opt for a more efficient method!

  • @yaelfalk9568
    @yaelfalk9568 6 років тому

    i will be glad to get a short explanation about scanning slides by "workflow" on Silverfast 8 with Epsonscan 850. Is it possible to scan slide after slide without prescanning all the 12 slides in the unit after every scan? thanks

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      It is possible, but the prescan is essential in order to get the framing right. Otherwise you might crop an image.

  • @cafeglobulot
    @cafeglobulot 6 років тому

    Thank you for sharing this valuable knowledge, in a calm way with that.

  • @mariohenriquez4339
    @mariohenriquez4339 6 років тому

    Nice light table. Where did you get that? Where did you get the gloves? Thanks.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      The light table is from amazon, and the gloves are normal anti static gloves I got from my local camera shop :)

  • @christopherpatrick1026
    @christopherpatrick1026 5 років тому

    Great video. I’m scanning black and white film as well. When I load the 35mm film strips into the trey, I put the emulsion side down as I’ve been told. But when the scans come up on the screen they are always flipped up side down and flipped backwards. Any thoughts?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  5 років тому

      thank you! try inverting the preview?

  • @danieltschitsch6893
    @danieltschitsch6893 6 років тому +1

    Thank you! This Video came in very handy, cause I just bought the v800, shot a medium format portra 160 and scanned it with Silverfast! 😉 I have one question though. You have been using the sharpening feature of silverfast. Why is that? Why not sharp it in lightroom/photoshop? Thanks again and keep it up

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for your comment! :) I usually have it on because the standard film holder that comes with the scanner slightly bends the negatives and doesn't make them as sharp as possible.

    • @danieltschitsch6893
      @danieltschitsch6893 6 років тому

      Jahan Saber thanks!

  • @mariobakus1
    @mariobakus1 3 роки тому

    Why does Epson scan in BW neg look much sharper? This is because it is much more contrasting. An image with higher contrast always looks sharper than flatter. I think :) But very nice video. Thanks

  • @MrDvneil
    @MrDvneil 2 роки тому

    i know this video is quite old, but i have a question, does v800 has 2 light leds? 1 each side of the lense? like the v850, or just has 1 light led

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  2 роки тому

      Hey there, I haven't a clue actually! Sorry I can't help you out with that.

    • @MrDvneil
      @MrDvneil 2 роки тому

      @@doyoudevelop don't worry, thank you so much.

  • @jameskelly4196
    @jameskelly4196 4 роки тому

    Excellent tutorial Thanks so much!

  • @scottpeterman2439
    @scottpeterman2439 6 років тому +1

    I have lots of negatives from the 90's I am working on. How do I know the original film used? Is it located on the negatives?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      It says on the side of the actual negative :)

    • @carongraham3896
      @carongraham3896 6 років тому

      @@doyoudevelop The current negatives I'm working with are Ilford FP3 Fine Grain Panchromatic 35mm Film.

  • @gurugamer8632
    @gurugamer8632 2 роки тому

    Do you recommend epson 850 pro or plustek (which model) ?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  2 роки тому

      I would recommend a valoi camera scanning set-up like in my newer videos.

  • @TheSkarful
    @TheSkarful 4 роки тому

    Hey, really love the desktop background, is it yours? Can i download/buy it?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  4 роки тому +1

      Hi there! Thanks, yes, it's a photograph I took. It's not available for download, only purchasable as a print.

    • @TheSkarful
      @TheSkarful 4 роки тому

      @@doyoudevelop where?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  4 роки тому

      @@TheSkarful Do you have Instagram? Drop me a message there @doyoudevelop or send me an email at contact@jahansaber.com

  • @adriantwiss600
    @adriantwiss600 5 років тому

    I have not looked through all the comments but would Negafix prove useful with monochrome film developed in a Pyro developer to compensate for the stain?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  5 років тому

      Negafix works for colour film and helps keep the tones as accurate as possible, based on a preset. Once you select monochrome, your film will be scanned as such, regardless of what film it is. So the stain won't even show.

  • @MrMosquiton
    @MrMosquiton 6 років тому +1

    When i start the scanning, the preview is converted from negative, but when i hit the scan button, the finally result is a negative. I’have tried to switch from positive to negative in the top right corner but nothing’s changed. Please help :(

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      What mode are you scanning in and what are you scanning? For a classic negative, select negative and the according bit size (make sure you don't select a HDR version, that'll automatically give you a negative image)

  • @Crusadercan
    @Crusadercan 6 років тому

    Thanks for the great vid! Can you tell me if the time it took to do the preview and final scans were in real time or did you accelerate your video to get through the actual scan. My V750 is uber slow! Also, have you found a solution for curved negatives, as not all of them lay perfectly flat in the tray. Thanks again.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      Thank you! It's sped up of course, I wish it would scan that fast! haha! What you can do is buy some proper non reflective glass and build your own film holder - that's something that'll help you get the negatives flat in the scanner!

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      Sorry the terribly late reply, i must have overseen this comment. I accelerated everything of course :) Curved negatives: roll the up the wrong way round back into the film canister and let it sit over night, the next day they'll be quite flat.

  • @sbhopper8511
    @sbhopper8511 5 років тому

    Good video! I'm still confused by the output dimensions. Does that really affect anything with scanning, or is it enough to focus on resolution?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  5 років тому +1

      It's only necessary for printing for specific sizes :)

  • @deniskane5702
    @deniskane5702 4 роки тому

    Is it better to adjust the negative when scanning or wait until adjusting in Photoshop?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  4 роки тому

      Better to scan everything as raw as possible and then do all the editing in a post processing program like Photoshop or Lightroom.

  • @Weezot97
    @Weezot97 6 років тому +1

    My V800 puts dark bands on the right side of every scanned negative (no problems with transparencies). I've verified that others have had this problem, but no solution has been found. This happens regardless of negative holder or scanning software used. Anyone else had this issue? Any fixes? Thanks!

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      I've had this issue too, but only once or twice and then never again. What software have you been using?

    • @Weezot97
      @Weezot97 6 років тому

      EpsonScan, VueScan and Silverfast. Also used both Epson carriers and BetterScanning adjustable carriers. No difference. I'm surprised that there is not more discussion about this issue online. sigh... Thanks for your reply!

    • @carongraham3896
      @carongraham3896 6 років тому

      @@Weezot97 Yes I have the same problem and its frustrating. I use the Epsom software that comes with the scanner and use the holders that come with the scanner and I've tried everything and haven't found a solution other than placing the negatives straight on the scanner bed without the holders.

  • @Yesandyessy
    @Yesandyessy 4 роки тому

    Hello, I am using same SilverFast 8.8 S.E software but i cannot find the way to make change from positive to negative. I can see there is negative option but I cannot click it. Do you how can I solve this problem?

    • @Yesandyessy
      @Yesandyessy 4 роки тому

      How can I change Reflective to Transparency?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  4 роки тому

      @@Yesandyessy It should just be at the top left corner like in the video. Perhaps you need to select some sort of full control, professional, scan mode, too?

  • @karelvanpraet5610
    @karelvanpraet5610 6 років тому

    I am using the V800 to scan my negatives. Works perfectly for 24x36 negatives but am having problems scanning medium size negatives (4,5x6 and 6x6 cm). The scanner does not seem to identify the size of the negatives in the pressman, and I am unable to set the format of the negatives. Can anyone advise me on how to set the medium size format please.

  • @florianbauer6455
    @florianbauer6455 6 років тому

    Hello Jahan, thank you very much for your Video! It is really helpful! I will think about buying silverfast 8. How much is it? Is it expensive? Thanks, Florian

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  2 роки тому

      Hi Florian, sorry for the very late reply. I don't know if you've proceeded in the meanwhile. I would recommend you look into DSLR scanning, it's a great option.

  • @andragre
    @andragre 6 років тому +1

    Hello. I was trying to use my D810, but didn`t get good results. Would you advice use a scanner over the dslr cammeras?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому +1

      Hi, i've never used a DSLR for scanning. I've always used a scanner and it's been sufficient for my work!

  • @DrGerard66
    @DrGerard66 6 років тому +1

    Great video, but don't like the software. Silverfast's inability to recognise frame borders when using film holders is a major achilles heel especially in a package supposedly tailored for the specific scanner. Also, my positive scans at the software default settings are way too dark. Epson's own software is much better if you want to get good quality scans done with a minimum of fuss.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  2 роки тому

      Apologise for the extremely late reply. It's been a while since I've used the platform here. I've meanwhile started to work with DSLR scanning. It's a much better option I find.

  • @tcfoxfan2
    @tcfoxfan2 6 років тому

    Does this scanner allow you do scan 8 x 10 & 4 x 5 film?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      4x5 film holders come with it and 8x10 you'd have to scan without holders :)

    • @tcfoxfan2
      @tcfoxfan2 6 років тому

      Thanks Jahan! :o)

    • @RobertBuelteman
      @RobertBuelteman 6 років тому

      Yes

  • @zingdia
    @zingdia 3 роки тому

    Hello All of my images are coming out yellow without the rich color

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  3 роки тому +1

      Hey there, what are you scanning? B/W or colour? Could be for a number of different reasons .. try making sure the white balance is in the correct level perhaps?

    • @zingdia
      @zingdia 3 роки тому

      I was doing color. It’s working now as I am using silver fast software now

  • @talleyrand9442
    @talleyrand9442 6 років тому

    Which light box is that?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  2 роки тому +1

      Apologises for the late reply. It's a cheap-o one I got from amazon. I don't think it has a brand name.

  • @mjl1958
    @mjl1958 6 років тому

    Your 35mm scans are very grainy; are B&W medium format scans also grainy (I see lots of grainy MF images on Flickr which seems to miss the point of using medium format? Is this the look you want or are you unconcerned if you are only putting them online? For printing purposes I would want much better results but at the moment, for home scanning, the much more expensive Plustek medium format scanner appears to be the only option, apart from wet-mount systems.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому +1

      That's due to the film speed - I have 35mm scans that were ISO 100-200 and they are extremely sharp. Grain really depends on the developer you use and at what kind of speed you're shooting at- I'm generally a fan of grain, that's the reason I shoot analog and not digital. Medium format is another level though- I don't shoot it much, in fact hardly ever, but the scans are incredibly sharp, even pushed to 3200. If you want high quality scans for 35mm, there is no cheap home option. You need something like a Noritsu LS-600, which will cost you around 1000 USD.

  • @davidv.kutaliya
    @davidv.kutaliya 5 років тому

    Great! Thanks.

  • @lukasmeixner6328
    @lukasmeixner6328 4 роки тому

    more than helpful!!!!

  • @pierlucataranta1504
    @pierlucataranta1504 6 років тому

    Thanks for the video. In my opinion the sharpness of the Epson scan looks really bad, way too digital. You should sharpen in post.

  • @djcanin1
    @djcanin1 6 років тому

    Thanks!!

  • @xaviercarreramorales4316
    @xaviercarreramorales4316 6 років тому

    B&W film has to be scanned as color film

  • @stevenmcmillen
    @stevenmcmillen 6 років тому +1

    As soon as you said don't use ICE you lost my trust. ICE uses IR to identify dust and is the most reliable method of removing dust. You also seem to suggested unsharp mask allows the scanner to focus - not true. Focus on the scanner you have is thru the small sliders that raise or lower the 35mm filmstrips.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  6 років тому

      ICE is heavily unreliable on flatbed scanners. It is always recommended to manually remove dust in post processing in my opinion :-)

    • @Tom-dt4ic
      @Tom-dt4ic 5 років тому +1

      I agree with Steve here. Removing dust in Photoshop using the clone tool is extremely tedious. Ice with IR is a huge time saver. If you want to spend hours removing dust in Photoshop, be my guest. Also Steve is right about unsharp mask. It has nothing to do with focus which is in the realm of hardware. Unsharp mask a digital fix using software only. And is best turned off in the scanning hardware and left for post production. Otherwise an excellent video.

    • @DeanoTXR53
      @DeanoTXR53 5 років тому

      Digital ICE always seems to remove random highlights in my BW photos that it thinks are dust or aberration, especially in dark photos with high contrast. There's no magic cure for anything it seems :)

  • @zaxonov
    @zaxonov 5 років тому

    I never understood why scanning softwares, while powerful, usually have the worst UI...

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  2 роки тому

      Yeah, they aren't ideal. Have you tried DSLR scanning? Much easier.

  • @myronachtman4304
    @myronachtman4304 5 років тому

    Very good tutorial. Would have been excellent without the annoying and disruptive background music.

  • @Captain_Nemo-y7q
    @Captain_Nemo-y7q 3 роки тому

    It is impossible see which buttons you are clicking and adjustments you are making. You move too quickly and speak to quickly for an absolute beginner like me. The image of the Silverfast menu is too blurred to be read easily. In other words you have made no effort to understand or cater for the needs of beginners. I'll find another video that explains more clearly and carefully.

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  3 роки тому

      You can slow down the speed of the video in the UA-cam playback settings.

  • @gurugamer8632
    @gurugamer8632 2 роки тому

    Do you recommend epson 850 pro or plustek (which model) ?

    • @doyoudevelop
      @doyoudevelop  2 роки тому

      I would recommend you look into camera scanning, it's a much higher yielding choice for scanning. But if had to pick between the two, I personally would pick the Epson, because it allows me to scan prints.