How to Lateral Raise for Maximum Muscle Growth
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- The lateral raise is, more often than not, done incorrectly. In this video Dr. Shallow shows Adam how to perform the lateral raise movement so that the side delts are getting maximum benefit throughout the entire movement for maximum muscle growth.
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OMFG flaring out the lats isolates your delts so well!!! this is the first time i heard and try it and ive been a gym goer for like 9 years now! Thank you so much for this video!
2:30 😲 WTH did he just say lol 😂
Val Ramos I was just thinking that!
He said kjdfnknkasdnwkiqwiuhfbeywfbrhvb dhfbiwnfoinefirubvjubvkidnomdpoawpojin adductor, jhabydvstycecvgdtyvb dusb, impregnate shoulder sjabcyusdgbvydvyhabub.
yall dumb
My shoulders are leveraged to a position past that supraspinatus activation of initiating abduction of the shoulder
I think its important to note for the everyday user that if you're going to get into this pose, that the traps should not be shrugged.
They weren't. He just has big traps.
very good...this is one of those movements
that, if you allow yourself to get too comfortable
with it...you gradually start doing it wrong, again.
always good to have a refresher like this...
thanks.
Dude I love how you specifically go through the mechanics of each exercise. I am a female and I just started weight training on my own. I've felt some pain and always wondered if Im doing it correctly.
Did you get wide shoulders? 😋
@@usbsol Not necessarily, just nice definition on my shoulders.
jeff cavalier from athlean x: internal rotation=shoulder impingement
He doesn't know what he's talking about
nvmffs Dude he’s a physical therapist. He knows what he’s talking about.
+John B. Yeah, and Dr. Shallow is a doctor. Who has the higher degree here?
nvmffs Not really. He's just a chiropractor, lol!
+John B. Not just a chiropractor , a doctorate degree in chiropractic
Engaging your lats helped me a lot. Thank you!
How do you deal with the issue of shoulder impingement when internally rotating underload like that?
How important is it that I pretend its milk I'm pouring out? could it be water? Not a big fan of milk.
It's super(spinatus) important
very important. you could avoid going to the toilet in between each set.
If you dont like it then you should enjoy pouring it out.
Want good shoulder development advice? Watch Larry Scott shoulder video...period.
Thanks for the video on this my friend
Now for someone who is over 40 and suffering from tennis elbow on a constant basis, I love this motion, but I struggle with the elbow pain. What other motion can isolate the same way.
Just tried his method while sitting in front of my computer without using any weight and my left shoulder's hurting already. Jeff Cavalier was right - rotating the shoulders inward will lead to shoulder impingement.
it's called the nocebo effect. jeff cavaliere is a shill
Sounds more like you have other nagging issues that leads to such a pain. Jeff Cavalier is probably more knowledgable with us desk warriors, while Dr. Shallow is attacking this movement from a professional athletes stance (meaning there are no nagging injuries, muscle imbalances, etc).
What about shoulder impingement?
What about it?
nvmffs That’s what he is asking.
+M There's no shoulder impingement involved here
WATCH THE VID AGAIN HE ISNT DOING ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT WOULD LEAD TO IMPINGMENT
+Fat Sugar Slat Don't mind athealx fanboys. They're all clueless which is how they fell for his bs in the first place
Thank you for this. I had to decrease the weight to a fraction to do this and it’s the FIRST FREAKING TIME I actually feel my middelt doing the work.
The 2:30 mark was like solving an equation!
Lmao I heard "once you relax the supanation deliberation and contract the defibrillation abbreviation, you know you got it." 🤣 how close was I?
Definately subscribing to Dr Jordan Shallow's channel after this. This is by far the best explanation of the lat raise I've heard.
I feel shoulder impingement watching the movement 😥
That analogy was good
When you "pour the milk" doesn't that smash the supraspinatus into the AC joint when the shoulder is internally rotated?
fire55frog yes, It decreases subacromial space pinching nerves and creating shoulder impingiment, i would never do neither recommend this tip. Instead, bent over and externally rotate your arms
Iago Borges my thoughts exactly.
fire55frog i hate this shit cuz its pure broscience. This channel is so much better than this and comes up with this poor advice on this vídeo like many other fitness guys passing wrong advice to Young ppl
Yes! And start with light dumbbells so that you isolate the lateral delts. If you go heavy other muscles will take over the movement.
PT here. Yes it'll decrease space but that doesn't guarantee by any means that you'll end up with shoulder impingement. You'd need to go through larger ranges of internal rotation repeatedly to end up with impingement than what is demonstrated here. Remember that internal rotation is normal and needed for shoulder mechanics on a daily basis. Assuming this exercise will give you impingement would be like saying throwing a baseball automatically leads to impingement.
Internal rotation can contribute but the bigger problem is a pre existing muscle imbalance like upper cross syndrome or individual anatomy (space in the joint)which varies person to person.
Yeah like, that "pouring the milk jar" seems awful for my shoulder impingement.
You get the same load on the middle delts as "pouring the milk jar" by leaning the trunk 15° forward and holding the dumbbells horizontal.
But you have to avoid changing the angle of the trunk during the reps.
Sitting makes it easier not to move the trunk.
Haven't read the comments but from a physical therapy standpoint, isn't pitcher pouring terrible for the shoulders BECAUSE of the internal rotation?
That was helpful.
Super helpful!
I have heard that internal rotation and abduction are a bad combo as they lead to rotator cuff tendonitis. How do you justify that combo on this exercise ?
They can't. These idiots are using bro science.
please do not interanlly rotate your shoulder it could lead to injury!!
100%
an example of humans are capable of making mistakes - just because your favourite channel is saying something doesn't mean they are always right
almost got shoulder impingement from internal rotation
@@fps_spicy
Totally true
Always do your researches and take information from multiple resources to avoid unnescsary damage
Can you please make a video on improving shoulder internal rotation?
Medial means closer to the midline of the body. Plus, eff the impingement. It's not hard to hit the side delts.
If possible, can you guys go into detail about cleans? Or even if you recommend them. And are dumbbells a decent substitute for front shoulder raises (don't know the proper term) because the place in staying at right now don't have any plates.
Pinky up can fck up your shoulders, do thumb up but make sure you are bent over in the right way when you do thumb up
Off to the gym I go to try this shit out 👍
Isn't internal rotation a bit risky?
For desk warriors with nagging issues, yes.
is scapula retraction ideal for the movement ?
Daishawn Higgins I've been wondering this too.
Daishawn Higgins Always wonder this as well, if putting the shoulders "down and back" contributes or detracts from medial head involvement.
Definitely shoudlers down to prevent unnecessary trap involvement, but I don't think scapula retraction is beneficial in lat raises
Scapula depression is ideal and horizontally scapula should be neutral so you can make the widest arch possible with the elbows.
correct tip ...subbing
So many comments..... so many experts.....
Great tip guys that looks like it will really help I’ve been having a little trouble with that movement going to try it out on my next shoulder workout stay 💯
Subject matter starts at 2:21
Basic biomechanics. The muscle opposite resistance will always lead a movements. Your traps are opposite the load at the start of a dB side lateral. Therefore the traps will always be engaged. To optimally work the side down, use a cable. This way the a-posing force is directly in the plane of direction to almost complete remove any trap load and completely load the medial deltoid.
So, I read a lot of comments here about how the advice here is bad because it'll hurt your shoulders. The good news is that, if I'm any sort of a representative at all, those of us who don't know what the hell language that guy was speaking don't understand how to apply it anyway; and if I did understand the language, I'd probably already know enough to know whether or not this was good advice (or at least to critically consider the counter-points in the comments here).
Off to another video to learn to do a better lat raise . . . (I really just wanted to know if I should do it on push or pull days!).
What video game is that in the background?
The problem with lateral raises, only the top third of the deltoid is getting any work... the lower two-third of the exercise the deltoid is resting... the deltoid is not working!
I literally just came from 3 different videos where they said internally rotating does nothing. Man why cant personal trainers just agree in one thing 😂😂
Show the movement.
Then explain the movement.
Then show the movement again.
That is the formula. Every minute you describe what you are going to do before doing it is basically wasted; we are just waiting for you to show us.
Seems like you're a bit slow
Internally rotating the shoulder and abducting arm Bad idea.
Right, one thing they got wrong. Don't teach pouring the pitchers. Its true that internal rotation will hit mid delt better, but thats only because it changes your line of pull to go through mid delts. You can do everything he talked about in this video, but bend over a bit at hips to get that same line of resistance going against mid delts, and don't internally rotate shoulder past a neutral position.
Depends on the load and the person's capsule mobility. It is true that internal rotation will increase lateral delt activation. As long as there is no discomfort, the load is managed, it's relatively safe.
that guy stole my bike when I was 9. Look who's all grown up.
How many of you "experts" on here that say internal rotation of any kind is bad? Do you guys do any kind of front delt dumbbell or barbell or cable raises with a pronated grip? These all cause internal rotation too, but i bet you all still do front delt raises with an overhand grip!
Interesting I will try it. I have been counting my lateral raises at 1.5=1 to avoid using momentum and to get past the first 20% problem. This might be a mother tool in the tool belt.
What's the deal with the medieval cart above the door?
I injured just watching this guy internally rotating... Waiting for your injury and your following "what did i do wrong?"
Keep going and fuck your shoulder up
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You guys are gonna fuck up a lot of people’s shoulders
No
Too much use of words nobody uses here ..use everyday words people use in gyms here instead ..
Don't let Jeff Cavalier see this!
2:30 say that after a few beers..
Lol
I'll stand by Athlean X all day. I know this will "ruffle some feathers".
Come at me
Terrible advice, internally rotating the shoulder under any load is asking for trouble, now or in the future and isn't natural. You're much better off leaning forward slightly, externally rotating as you raise to the hit the same area in a much safer way.
agree
100% agree to avoid shoulder impingement
Wrong
@@koningklootzak7788 I’ll listen to an expert thanks lol
@@pjdexter168 you're welcome. Let me know if you have more questions.
Ok. I have watched 100's of videos on how to do shoulders and this finally hit home! My God....I took 20's and did 10 reps and i, for the first time!, felt a burn. Great video and explanation. I rotated before with my fucking wrists instead of the shoulder and elbow, been doing this wrong for years. Every fucking video I watched said, "just pull your pinky up" or "pour out the jugs" one little mistake leads to years of no gains....fml
This dude is reading from a text book
The guy in the green has pencil legs
Kinda hard to tell IMO. You can see the bottom half of his calves that's about it, plus he has baggy shorts.
But in general small legs and big upper looks hilarious. I'd way rather have bigger legs if I have to have them not equal.
He squats 700 lbs with ‘’pencil legs’’ . Way to be a moron bubba.
So annoying how they chat on and on at the beginning. Just show me how to do it.
Dude looks like chewjitsu
Broski
Nonsense
This guy is huge on top. But, his lehs are tooth picks!
2:47 I will correct u cause you wrong, get some knowleddge about biomechanic cause this guy next to you doesnt know it either
Throwing around all that vernacular makes him sound like he know something... poor exercise description!
Confusing
Horrible video
Andrew Phillips ya cause a doctor and personal trainer are both morons. Just because you’re too much of a dunce to understand what they are saying doesn’t make it a bad video
0:37 Permeated??? Really? Learn English, dude. Probably means permutated. Lost all cred if he cannot even speak correctly.
God forbid people make a single mistake
only guys that can make a four minute video take forever. Get to the point!
What language is this in ? XD
I bet he doesn't eat .6 gr of protein per bw. lol. #mindPumpYouWithMyAdsAndFactsToReachGoalsThatIPeronallyNeverHaveAndNeverWillAchieve
Where are his legs?