This video does not cover Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) seen especially with teenage females since say 2013 - date, and especially the change from being a mostly male phenomenon to very female phenomenon, possibly due to social contagion due to social media influence as well as pro-Trans teacher/counselor/therapist influence.
Oh could you please re-upload Stephanie Davies-Arai's talk this way with the slides of her presentation synchronous with the camera recording!? :) Thank you, Dr. Zucker gave a very good but diplomatic talk.
Brilliant presentation; however, the idea of "privlidging" one therapeutic approach over another when there is a lack of data comes down to one thing: which approach is likely to cause the least harm. When social transistion appears to have a transgender persistence rate of 94% it appears that this option is putting children on a trans pharmaceutical path that likely leads to surgery. How is this an option when there is doubt as to the evidence that this is ideal. Especially given the past practice ("watchful waiting") resulted in a significant level of desistance. Equally, the issue today is who is the facilitator for socially transistioning children. No disrepect, but it's almost niave to assume parental involvement.
You almost might think that one particular treatment (of affirmation, of whatever kind) leads to an iatrogenic creation of patients. Who would have thought, eh?
@@oliverhug3 the world needs more people like Dr Zucker caring for children but there is also a need for people that can counter the ridiculous tran-youth narrative and the deceptive practice that is "affirmative care". A reasonable person can not reason with the callously delliousional advocates behind it. It's time for lawyers so the Board of Directors of the professional societies (AAP and Endocrine) can be the subjects of a class-action law suit. The membership is not being served by the leadership..
For those who are truly gender dysphoric and being very GNC why do you not understand that even trying to meet norms is repressive & psychologically damaging for children even when adults are not intentionally trying to do so . "Social transitioning" as it is called now should be re-framed simply to allow the child to be more comfortable , not constantly challenged as to what they are. Let them have a nick name , wear whatever don't make a big deal out of it. May change may not but if they were "different " from when they were really small it is not likely to change unless they are abused/ repressed ( very common ) .
@@non_ideological_transexual7414 Can you not see that affirming child's confusion is an ACTIVE act? Children look up to adults to understand the world. When adults affirm confusion/ fantasies, they lock the child in his/ her immature and false way of thinking. Gender nonconformity is one thing- it doesn't require medicalization and I couldn't care less if Johnny is more effeminate and Kate wants to play with trucks- but lying about child's sex is misguided at best, and just evil otherwise.
Very good and informative presentation, but incredibly callous to suggest that it might be an "indifferent" outcome to put a child on a medical leash for life with very likely sexual dysfunction etc etc. No minor can consent to that path no matter how much they wish to socially transition at a young age. And no parent should be allowed to decide that they'd rather have a gender-conforming trans child than a gender-nonconforming gay one.
You are twisting the reality & practicality of transitioning . I have more freedom less stress without gender dysphoria , no health complications that you conflate to be normal . "rather have a gender-conforming trans child than a gender-nonconforming gay one." it is true some parents are homophobic, a friend was beaten for liking men. She transitioned as soon as she could get away from her family 30 years ago. Only had SRS recently because she is fearful of having her documents taken away. Does it occur to you that many have transitioned outside clinics ? its the norm world wide not the other way around . " No minor can consent to that path no matter how much they wish to socially transition at a young age " no they can't they need help in an unbiased , practical way not OMG you must live as a gay person because danger danger ! Must protect the "community" ! 😘 biggles
That’s not what doctors are telling parents. They tell them “Would you rather have a trans son or a dead daughter?” By suicide supposedly. But detransitioners report that they were never suicidal.
It’s very hard to listen to this doctor as you can hear his lips parting and closing louder than you can hear his words. I really wish that whomever did the sound for this conference had put a pop filter on his microphone. As someone with Misophonia I, unfortunately, can’t listen to Dr. Zucker’s presentation.
Only clinic in Holland so they have to see us...umm No its called self medication , very common & not ideal . My endo has been a Dutch one for a few's years, before i had professors. Being monitored is better as precaution, Y'all going to make that harder ? They actually do need to do some checks for things that a very small number of people have issues with but very common issues to some types of transitioners
Thanks for allowing us to see these presentations
This video does not cover Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) seen especially with teenage females since say 2013 - date, and especially the change from being a mostly male phenomenon to very female phenomenon, possibly due to social contagion due to social media influence as well as pro-Trans teacher/counselor/therapist influence.
Thank you Dr Zucker
Oh could you please re-upload Stephanie Davies-Arai's talk this way with the slides of her presentation synchronous with the camera recording!? :)
Thank you, Dr. Zucker gave a very good but diplomatic talk.
Brilliant presentation; however, the idea of "privlidging" one therapeutic approach over another when there is a lack of data comes down to one thing: which approach is likely to cause the least harm. When social transistion appears to have a transgender persistence rate of 94% it appears that this option is putting children on a trans pharmaceutical path that likely leads to surgery. How is this an option when there is doubt as to the evidence that this is ideal. Especially given the past practice ("watchful waiting") resulted in a significant level of desistance. Equally, the issue today is who is the facilitator for socially transistioning children. No disrepect, but it's almost niave to assume parental involvement.
You almost might think that one particular treatment (of affirmation, of whatever kind) leads to an iatrogenic creation of patients. Who would have thought, eh?
Couldn`t agree more.
@@oliverhug3 the world needs more people like Dr Zucker caring for children but there is also a need for people that can counter the ridiculous tran-youth narrative and the deceptive practice that is "affirmative care". A reasonable person can not reason with the callously delliousional advocates behind it. It's time for lawyers so the Board of Directors of the professional societies (AAP and Endocrine) can be the subjects of a class-action law suit. The membership is not being served by the leadership..
For those who are truly gender dysphoric and being very GNC why do you not understand that even trying to meet norms is repressive & psychologically damaging for children even when adults are not intentionally trying to do so . "Social transitioning" as it is called now should be re-framed simply to allow the child to be more comfortable , not constantly challenged as to what they are. Let them have a nick name , wear whatever don't make a big deal out of it. May change may not but if they were "different " from when they were really small it is not likely to change unless they are abused/ repressed ( very common ) .
@@non_ideological_transexual7414 Can you not see that affirming child's confusion is an ACTIVE act? Children look up to adults to understand the world. When adults affirm confusion/ fantasies, they lock the child in his/ her immature and false way of thinking. Gender nonconformity is one thing- it doesn't require medicalization and I couldn't care less if Johnny is more effeminate and Kate wants to play with trucks- but lying about child's sex is misguided at best, and just evil otherwise.
Very good and informative presentation, but incredibly callous to suggest that it might be an "indifferent" outcome to put a child on a medical leash for life with very likely sexual dysfunction etc etc. No minor can consent to that path no matter how much they wish to socially transition at a young age. And no parent should be allowed to decide that they'd rather have a gender-conforming trans child than a gender-nonconforming gay one.
You are twisting the reality & practicality of transitioning . I have more freedom less stress without gender dysphoria , no health complications that you conflate to be normal . "rather have a gender-conforming trans child than a gender-nonconforming gay one." it is true some parents are homophobic, a friend was beaten for liking men. She transitioned as soon as she could get away from her family 30 years ago. Only had SRS recently because she is fearful of having her documents taken away. Does it occur to you that many have transitioned outside clinics ? its the norm world wide not the other way around . " No minor can consent to that path no matter how much they wish to socially transition at a young age " no they can't they need help in an unbiased , practical way not OMG you must live as a gay person because danger danger ! Must protect the "community" ! 😘 biggles
That’s not what doctors are telling parents. They tell them “Would you rather have a trans son or a dead daughter?” By suicide supposedly. But detransitioners report that they were never suicidal.
What? How/why would desistance ever require hormones or surgery?
It’s very hard to listen to this doctor as you can hear his lips parting and closing louder than you can hear his words. I really wish that whomever did the sound for this conference had put a pop filter on his microphone. As someone with Misophonia I, unfortunately, can’t listen to Dr. Zucker’s presentation.
Only clinic in Holland so they have to see us...umm No its called self medication , very common & not ideal . My endo has been a Dutch one for a few's years, before i had professors. Being monitored is better as precaution, Y'all going to make that harder ? They actually do need to do some checks for things that a very small number of people have issues with but very common issues to some types of transitioners