I notice a lot of women complain about how long it takes to do their hair and how difficult it is to learn how to do their hair, but then they will spend months learning how to cut lace, glue lace, lay lace, etc. I feel like women are not being honest about not liking their hair.
They're are not. I have had an Afro, braids, locs, short fade, curly hair. It takes time to do your hair as a male also. The problem with women is that they want to follow trends and fit in with what's popular. Most men I know prefer women in their natural hair and that means no weave added to do braids, twists, or what not. Also that fake hair and even the real hair that women put on their heads has harmful chemicals in a few years we'll see a rise in cancers related to it
I remember one of the girls said she was a teacher and when she stepped in her class the only black there was proud to have a teacher who look like her, similar to that situation i (speaking for myself and my reasons) would love to have my woman, sisters, friends to be natural and my reasons being you display confidence in yourself as well as promote it to others, you never know how many people were waiting for someone to open the way and when they see you, they grow more confident in themselves...Bottom line is, you are a role model to a lot of people you don't know and may never know....Leading By Example
I’m sooooo proud of the raw honesty and intelligence displayed by ALL of you on these very sensitive and important topics. You are all beautiful. IF you can’t give up on wigs/weaves, PLEASE do choose the ones that look like the texture and length of natural African/Black hair.
Start by wearing kinky coily extensions rather than straight weave. I notice that a lot of African women go for the bone straight hair instead of the 3c/4a clips or wigs or half wigs or the marley hair crochet ponytails.
It's interesting that around the 15:00 mark, they seemed to equate having natural hair with not wearing make up. I understand that that's how they associate natural hair but it's a bit sad that they can't see natural hair alongside makeup rather than"just coming out of the shower".
This is such a great conversation! I literally spent most of my teens and 20s covering my hair but this year i was seriously fed up and i went natural and i am really embracing it. I love it! I actually switched up my wigs in my 20s so all my wigs were kinky wigs and looked very natural, but it still wasn't my own. I definitely believe African women are brainwashed to believe other hair textures are better or even when we go natural there's a certain look that is considered acceptable with slicked edges and hair that isn't too kinky which is ridiculous. Can we also not use degrading terms....nappy dreads etc. Hopefully one day everyone will appreciate their natural hair, its literally how you were born so it makes no sense to despise it. ❤
This was a great conversation. I wear my afro majority of the time or straightened. On a challenge to not wear wigs for a whole year & only wear extensions that are a blowout texture that matches my hair. Keep up the great conversations! 😊
I now wear my hair in mini braids all day everyday. It's easy to maintain and grows faster. I just think we as black women look much better in our natural hair.
I’m listening but why wear a straight hair wig to your waist? It’s completely fake. That is definitely NOT your hair. Aren’t there wigs closer to your hair type? Plus it reflects poorly on mixed race black women whose natural hair is long and straight. It seems to people that All black women wear wigs, have straight perms or flat iron to straightness, however some of us don’t do this or need to do this.
Damn you ladies had me in tears with your brutal honesty.I have so much respect for because you did not lie nor deflect, project, and come up with excuses. I am MAD that you have to alter your hair just to be noticed, validated, loved, and respected. It is such bs that you have to go through all that. I am so sorry..you ladies are f...... gorgeous. I will admit as being a biracial male my hair is easy to care for even when it was longer in my younger days. My hair is 2c..so I never had to deal with the jokes because mine is considered "good hair" more european. Whites and blacks would always praise me by saying I am "lucky" that my hair looks more like my white mom. Looking back, it was wrong to say that to me on so many levels...because I can see why mixed race people develop a superiority complex...it all makes sense now smh. So many mixed race are seen as pretty bc of of having light skin, 2/3 hair light eyes etc. The original subsaharan west africans were very dark/4c hair. Mixed race people esp the women are constantly placed over black women...and this is why I would never consider mixed as black because we are usually preferred by whites etc over nonmixed blacks. We have a totally different experience. I have a much better understanding of your situation, but wear your natural hair and stand tall. F...those silly weaves....whenever you wear them its like apologizing for being black(famous quote from Viola Davis). You are queens...without those weaves. Lots of love to you gorgeous women. I do understand 4c hair may experience breakage, so maybe explore wigs that are 4b/4c. At least in this case, you are presenting authenticity. If you want to instill pride to black girls/women to model, then practice what you preach and stand in it TALL. If people cannot accept your 4c hair...then it's your gain and their loss. I just want to hug you two for having the guts to speak your truth without excuses...xoxoxoxo.
We did not take offense to your original comment ☺️🤎 We definitely want to work on embracing our natural hair more as African women, but also wanted to share the factors that may cause black women in general to wear wigs/weaves. Thanks for being gracious!
What is the difference between women from Puerto Rico, south India, Nigeria and Guatemala if they are all the same color? It hair... Your hair texture represents your ancestry and where your people are from. Why hide where you come from in less you are ashamed? Be proud of who birthed you and who birthed her! Represent yourself to the fullest and step into your hair authenticity
This sounds easy, but we're either displaced or here in the Western Hemisphere by choice. How can black girls and women manage social isolation? Should we all move to Africa, where many of the women shave their heads or where scarves? Why do they do that?
Why are some of us under the impression that mixed women love their hair? They are getting that curly type 3 hair straightened, dyed and adding extensions to it as well. It isn't just a monracial black woman thing.
As someone from a mostly mixed population i can assure you that theres a lot of type 3 hair being straightened. This is not to take away from the discrimination that coily hair gets but its not that black and white
this is interesting this came up today. i wore my natural 4c out and wore it to the stores as well as the gym and the way my confidence made lots of other women esp uncomfortable was eye opening and made me never want to cover it up again!
I call cap on black women's BS! It doesn't take all day to do your hair. It takes all day to get "defined curls" lay edges etc. why is it thay us black men with the same texture hair as our mother and sisters dont have the issues black women claim to have? Because we dont try to change our hair to a texture that is not our own. We dont stretch it or do other stuff to compromise the integrity of the strength of our hair.
I honor you all for this topic it is something that disturbs me every single day and we refuse to talk about it. Bravo beloveds for discussing this topic it alters my spirit everyday very disappointing to see this everyday. This is a huge part of watching how we are being eased from society followed by the lightning of our skin. BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL!!! we are so lost.
Love how vulnerable and truthful u guys were. It makes people relate so much more. I love my natural hair. I just want length and more edges. But in terms of my texture and the colour, I absolutely have no problem with it. I can go to work with a bun and Karen and Suzy will just have to deal with it!!
I appreciate the honesty. As someone who has been natural since 1998, I want to encourage you to wear your hair however you choose. What I think is strange, however, is that people will invest so much time, effort and money into making their wigs and weaves look good, but will never do the same when it comes to taking care of their natural hair. Oftentimes, the natural hair under these hairpieces looks like it hasn't seen shampoo, deep conditioner or moisturizer in ages. It's also interesting that people will see how the wigs and weaves are damaging their hairline, to the point that their edges have migrated to the southernmost tip of Argentina, but continue to wear the wigs and weaves.
Ladies, the honestly was absolutely beautiful. It's a journey and I understand. I've had locs for 7 years and that was my journey. Be kind to yourself and your inner beautiful will project.
At least you ladies are being honest! I tried to embrace my natural hair and went 5 years without wigs and weaves. I do actually like my 4C texture however, I do not like the short length.
The man who said they just “want the cheeks” when they see women in wigs was just BS-ing around the truth lol. There’s plenty of women who don’t wear their natural hair that have relationships. It felt like that was another way of going around the point that men only like a certain TYPE of natural hair. Because type 4 natural hair, a bussdown, and locs pulls completely different men for a reason and it has something to do with texturism.
Thank you for posting the truth! We can't get over this topic because black people around the world struggle with colorism and hair texture is a big part of that.
@Slimgirl.coilyhair and that’s a cop out from the truth. Women who wear weave are not inherently insecure. Weave is conventionally attractive so you pull more people when you’re conventionally attractive. Texturism is apart of conventionality.
@@iiheartrice7783 why can't you accept someone's perspective and move along. Not everyone views the world in your lenses, the bottom line of having a conversation is to hear and learn from one another not just critic, critic, critic. #2 if you don't think sex is probably in the top 3 reasons men persue a relationship with the opposite sex then you need to sit down and reevaluate your thinking.
The man with the plaster is a model to all men on this topic. Very encouraging to these women. They are indeed beautiful. Every one of them. I really liked the woman with dreads. "I decided to do the journey with my daughter". That's the kind of woman I want my daughter around
I want to be mad at women who wear weaves but how can I? Look at how we get treated. Lol black women want to change but they have to be in a safe environment first.
No you don't. It's 2024, you literally just do it. If a man can come out the closet and say he likes to take meat from other men. You and other women can be comfortable wearing your own hair.
I went natural in 2009, but in the middle of my journey for about 3-4 years, I started wearing straight weaves, then went straight back to strictly natural and now wear a twa that I water daily. My bf says this is the most badass and sexy I’ve ever looked, he’s not a brother but Mexican American. Other people also complement my hair since I’ve cut it short recent. I think a lot of the insecurities we have with wearing our natural hair especially if it is kinkier and/or shorter comes from conditioning in our youth (back in the days) because it is more acceptable now. It took me years to get to this point in my journey and I hope all black women get here soon too. ❤
Ladies. I commend you on your candor and vulnerability. When we are critiqued on something as personal as our appearance-and especially our hair-it is never an easy conversation. I appreciate your honesty about your insecurities and your openness to embracing your natural hair. Thank you, Brother Emanuel, for your love and support. All the best to you ladies as you step into this wonderful new challenge. Blessings. ❤️❤️❤️
I'm going to save my comment until the end, I want to comment on everything. How protective is a style if it ends the life of your edges? And please, lets stop with the over generalizing, to make ourselves feel better. How many years has it be since you all have seen the high school halls. Your hair is difficult to deal with because you are spending all your time dealing with a wig! Back in my day wigs were for older ladies dealing with hair loss. My opinion, it's okay to wear a wig every once in a while. But take that extra time to love and care on YOUR hair and YOURself. I feel sad for you ladies, your worth depends on how others view you. Your worth was given to you by God and God alone, you do him a disservice by not honoring that. My last comment, I'm retired military, I transitioned will in the military. I now work for the government, I'm natural everyday (curly and straight). This is an internal issue. Lastly, I'm way older than you guys at 48, you all have time. My beautiful sisters God bless you all, loved the conversation!
I’m late to the party, but if you’re having a panel, I think it would be more helpful to try to get everyone in the screen at once because it’s just focused on the two main host.
YES I thought it was just me that noticed black American 4c hair looks different to African African hair, I live in the Uk but my ethnicity is Nigerian so Yh I think our hair is more course than theirs.
It could be worst, they could be wearing blond weave, but me personally I wouldn't date a black woman wearing European hair, it's something very wrong with that.
I listen to DIY hair care programs like this as I do my hair each weekend or 2 weeks. It keeps me company and committed as I continue to learn and enjoy doing this sacred ritual. I applaud all of the women on the panel for being completely honest about this topic. I have wavier textured hair but I also have gray hair which most women dye. So I know that it required confidence to embrace the road less traveled. I had to hear women call my hair brassy, green and other comments as I was growing out the color when I decided enough was enough. It was however the best decision I ever made. My hair is multi textured and I have and to learn to accept and honor how it wants to be along the way. Keep up the great work on the show. You are all inspiring on my continuous self love journey.
But one misconception is that we cannot put water in our hair…your hair needs moisture to grow and that’s why a lot of black women have trouble with breakage/dryness. I spritz my hair with water daily and seal it with a curl cream/spray and my hair has been growing and staying moisturized!
Thanks for a wonderful, eye opening, thought provoking video👍🏽 As one of the apparently rare Black Women who has always loved, appreciated, preferred, celebrated and boldly worn my natural froey hair - You guys have given me the gift of reminding me that I am a rare gem indeed. So thanks, I really appreciate it💜💜
For women of African descent with type 4 hair, no. Historically, such women were not allowed to wear their hair in its “natural” state because it was perceived as unprofessional. Hence, the need for the recently passed (2022-2023) legislation called the CROWN act. This statewide law prohibits discrimination based on hair texture and style. Secondly, men of African descent primarily “prefer” type 1-3 hair textures whether they admit it or not. Most women of African descent (at least 90% of them) have type 4 hair. Thus, they do not possess the preferred hair type of their male counterparts. The men say they prefer “natural” hair but that is NOT true based on their actions. Men of African descent have built very few institutions (e.g., organizations, publications, movies, music) that celebrate type 4 hair in its natural state. For example, show me the last time Jay Z had an ad that showcased a woman wearing the hairstyle he is currently wearing (freeform locks)? NEVER. Name a billionaire business executive, politician, attorney, medical doctor, or pastor of African descent who has a significant other who wears her type 4 hair in its natural state? NONE. Finally, women have the right to be women and to wear their hair in whatever style they desire. Most of those complaining about women of African descent wearing weaves/wigs are simply jealous that it looks good on them, and they cannot do the same.
Excellent job, ladies! Peace, love, and light. Your Nigerian sister with a 4c afro
I feel like this video and this comment are mainly Black American talking points when it comes to this issue, as opposed to African American. I'm Black American but recently found out that today there are restrictions in some schools preventing young African students from wearing their hair in long/natural styles, but white and mixed race students can wear their hair, in Africa where Black people are the majority! I feel like a lot of people would rather identify with the Black American struggle than their own.
@@bdouglas9723the same talking points stand maybe except for the male perspective. African men in Africa don’t care about hair as much but overall in regards to social treatment and media representation 4C hair woman aren’t treated the same way. Have you seen African movies and their media representation? Like you stated in Africa students are forced to shave their hair down because it’s looked down upon. Whiteness has infiltrated how Africans view 4C hair. Some African schools won’t allow students to wear locs. If you want to be accepted in society or be seen as professional you are pushed into wearing weaves, straighten your hair or shaving it short in order to progress or be seen as beautiful. As Black woman regardless where live we face very similar struggles.
@arigodut shaving hair down is actually about maintenance not beauty standards. If we take south Sudan as an example, women are still deemed attractive with short hair. The men will still deem the woman as beautiful....not every single society is the same. This idea that eurocentric standards dominate every African society is also BS.
@@KushQueen9Yes, I said that. I said “African men in Africa don’t care about hair that much” however we are still affected by Eurocentric beauty standards. Bleaching is widely done and women are still treated differently when we wear our hair out in its natural state.
For me yes because I wanted the attention of black men like other races were getting now I am older I am doing hairstyles that look more like mine so I can appreicate my texture. I can admit that.
I LOVE this channel. Next video come natural...please xo. One correction he said AA girls have range...its because of their mixed heritage(european/native)...most AA are multi-generational mixed thats why there are ranges.
The respect I have for your honesty is extremely high…this is the only way we can solve our worlds ills by confronting the dynamics that shape how we see ourselves.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Are we going to have our first LOS wedding soon?? Thank you for another great episode, ladies. I appreciate the honesty and vulnerability of this conversation. I can relate to the anxiety of not feeling presentable when wearing my natural hair out. Similarly, I have felt underdressed at fancy events while wearing my natural hair/braids vs. a wig or weave. It's comforting to know that I am not alone in these feelings and I thank you all for providing a safe space for these conversations.
I just have to say that you all are beautiful! I just wanted to emphasize that our hair is being HIDDEN AND COVERED UP. Our hair can'fully thrive the way it was meant to being covered up all of the time. I am natural and have been for 7 years now. 3c very kinky and coily. I have recently completely decided that I am enough! I don't need to add to what my Creator made. Enhancing our features is great but when our need to fit in and be like everyone that society says is the standard, that means we need to self-reflect! The most freeing thing for me is that I am free in my mind and my hair should represent that. Also, for the little Mama's that look up to us, whhat message are we sending? What are we silently saying to them. We havve to doo the work, learn our haie just like we learn our body. It is a relationship. Would you want to be with someone that doesn't want to show you to the world? No... Our hair feels the same way. The itching, our scalp and hair sceeaming to be feee. At the end of the day, we all have to do what works for ourselves,but at the same time, truth will set us free!! Be blessed❤❤
Nothing wrong with a weave just wear the textures that match yours whether pressed or curly. Stop wearing the damn Indian/euro textures that don’t match your type 3/4 hair.
The style of hair you’re wearing may not speak to your character, but it does speak to your level of self-esteem. No one is attracted to someone who appears to have low self-esteem.
Thank you for your honesty. You are all very beautiful, and you will be more beautiful with your natural hair.stop supporting other people’s economy they don’t respect our people. One love my daughters.
Wearing weave of your natural texture makes no difference. The goal post gets moved again. When women wear kinky hair, people say its still fake hair and you should grow your own
Not everybody wears a wig or weave. I am a 71 yr old black woman who has been natural for many, many years. I never wore a wig nor weave. And I don’t judge people for wearing them. You do you.
Am lost about our hair not liking water, water breaks the 4c hair? I am 4c and my hair thrives only with water. Water causes shrinkage that is all. And shrinkage caused by water makes my hair is softer etc. Spend time with your natural hair, give it a real chance before making such discouraging statements for the sake of newbies. I appreciate you all being very honest on the topic though.
People have preconceived notions about all types of people this is about hair you’re trying to look white .black women that don’t wear wigs fit the beauty standard more than the ones that wear wigs and if they take care of their hair it’s beautiful
Do locks or twists. You ladies look great, Black beauty personified, but your hair starkly clashes with your phenotype so much that its distracting. Your weave doesnt at all look like it could be coming from your very Black self. My 22 year old daughter has had long beautiful fuul locs since she was 7-9. If you wear extensions, for goodness sake, wear kinky Africoid textured extensions please. Yall are beautiful. Stay rising.
It's so interesting listening to this after the "lets take Arab culture out of south Sudan". There was so much energy about that but this one is full of excuses
On the topic of the price of braids, raiders need to make a living too. They’re on their feet 8+ hours doing your hair, hurting their back, their fingers, etc. if people are willing to pay, let them make their price.
Well now that you have a platform and you're grown woman, why don't you give it a try to let your natural hair out? Maybe NOW your experience will be different and better!
Having to invest your entire day to take care of our hair is the answer to this question. I'm a dark skin black woman who is a victim of the diaspora. My hair is true 4c. Black men aren't looking for us with natural hair. Don't be fooled.
Yeah because they have a choice to look at the wig wearers but if every black woman ditched the wig then they will have no choice but love natural hair!
As a South Sudanese (Dinka) woman - I would love to speak on your podcast!! ❤ I am in DFW area and have A LOT to say about these topics concerning all these topics that pertain to our community as well as Black community in general. Any things concerning these topics like today’s natural hair discussion, family ties, homophobia, alcoholism/addiction in the community. Let me know who to contact about featuring and i’ll be otw!!! 🤞🏿
We would LOVE to have you!! We are always searching for local South Sudanese voices, especially women. Please fill out the first link on our linktree. It is a guest intake form. Once filled out, someone on our team will be in touch regarding upcoming shoots. linktr.ee/ladiesofsosa
I think all of you women are very beautiful but what you have to take in consideration You're doing exactly what they want us to do when it comes to our wonderful attribute to fashion you are clearly letting the Europeans play the narrative and they're winning and I hate that for us by the way are you guys going to talk about bleaching of the skin as well
Actually that is the whole point when you say other races do it is the problem in our race trying to be other than who we naturally are. Again self hatred and it is destroying us.
Hmmmm, 🤔, Black men often dictate how black women should look, yet ironically, many of these men prefer dating outside their race or favor light-skinned, long-haired black women. Unlike black women, we don't impose fashion or hairstyle choices on black men, the call is for everyone to embrace their individuality and feel comfortable, beautiful, and confident. We are all individuals and should be treated and seen as such!
No. The question is can you be a proud African woman wearing European textured hair. It’s not about a weave because weave comes in kinky texture and y’all never buy it.
I wear my natural hair straight…. So I hate myself? Even tho I’ve worn my curls and have had 2 sets of locs for 14 years? Laughable. It’s a hairstyle. Now if you wear a different texture because you hate your hair, THATS self hate.
My opinion is this and I believe I'm correct, mind your own business there are billions of people in the world we all have different cultures and different ways of culturally expressing our hairstyle or we just may want to change temporarily or permanently whoever decides to do what with their hair is their business.
Emmanuel needs to stop cap’n!! 😂 the guys who want you natural, especially all of a sudden, just don’t want you looking appealing to other men. I definitely pull more dudes when I’m weaved up or braided up vs out here lookin like Celie with a blow dry 🤣
You guys are adult women on a panel, talking about getting roasted in high school. That has nothing to do with how adult men respond to adult women. Kids are going to roast you for anything. Adult black men are saying that they don’t like black women that are trying to look like white women. You need to stop it.
I don't like the hair typing. Nobody ever said anything about hair type back in the day. This type of hair typing gives little girls a complex. Who came up with this BS. I think all of you are pretty girls and you are just wearing "A STYLE" natural 1234 ABC hair is ridiculous. Just learn to love your natural hair and your weave both with the same amount of love. Relaxed hair is only damaged when you don't know how to take care of it.
I am a black man that used to wear my hair low brush length. This style was more excepted within my corporation than when I chose to let my hair grow to a low length afro. My hair was still very professional...but some of the white men gave funny looks and said silly jokes about my hair. This did not bother my confidence at all... as the woman...including their white woman looked at me and spoke to me totally opposite to those white men. I knew I was still the finest man in the place...no matter how I chose to wear my hair. Why do black woman not respond to societies ignorance as I do?
I notice a lot of women complain about how long it takes to do their hair and how difficult it is to learn how to do their hair, but then they will spend months learning how to cut lace, glue lace, lay lace, etc. I feel like women are not being honest about not liking their hair.
They're are not. I have had an Afro, braids, locs, short fade, curly hair. It takes time to do your hair as a male also. The problem with women is that they want to follow trends and fit in with what's popular. Most men I know prefer women in their natural hair and that means no weave added to do braids, twists, or what not. Also that fake hair and even the real hair that women put on their heads has harmful chemicals in a few years we'll see a rise in cancers related to it
Excuses Excuses Excuses
💝💯Natural Hair Wearing Women✊🏽
I remember one of the girls said she was a teacher and when she stepped in her class the only black there was proud to have a teacher who look like her, similar to that situation i (speaking for myself and my reasons) would love to have my woman, sisters, friends to be natural and my reasons being you display confidence in yourself as well as promote it to others, you never know how many people were waiting for someone to open the way and when they see you, they grow more confident in themselves...Bottom line is, you are a role model to a lot of people you don't know and may never know....Leading By Example
AMEN👍🏽❤️💜🙏🏽‼️
I’m a natural girl and our hair is ART the more we start looking at it that way, we’ll be okay with standing out!
@@thatsshika natural with a silk press, your natural grows up and out defying gravity, how is that normal as a human being
@@DebbieSmith-pd9fzlook up who’s hair is genetically closer to fur
I’m sooooo proud of the raw honesty and intelligence displayed by ALL of you on these very sensitive and important topics. You are all beautiful. IF you can’t give up on wigs/weaves, PLEASE do choose the ones that look like the texture and length of natural African/Black hair.
Start by wearing kinky coily extensions rather than straight weave. I notice that a lot of African women go for the bone straight hair instead of the 3c/4a clips or wigs or half wigs or the marley hair crochet ponytails.
or just rock your normal hair unless you still are insecure
I actually did this for a while back when I first started transitioning. I no longer need them because my natural hair is thriving ❤
It's interesting that around the 15:00 mark, they seemed to equate having natural hair with not wearing make up. I understand that that's how they associate natural hair but it's a bit sad that they can't see natural hair alongside makeup rather than"just coming out of the shower".
i make it a mission to wear my lashes or concealer with it like i would if i was wearing a wig too… i’m not sure why they say it can’t go side by side
This is such a great conversation! I literally spent most of my teens and 20s covering my hair but this year i was seriously fed up and i went natural and i am really embracing it. I love it!
I actually switched up my wigs in my 20s so all my wigs were kinky wigs and looked very natural, but it still wasn't my own.
I definitely believe African women are brainwashed to believe other hair textures are better or even when we go natural there's a certain look that is considered acceptable with slicked edges and hair that isn't too kinky which is ridiculous. Can we also not use degrading terms....nappy dreads etc. Hopefully one day everyone will appreciate their natural hair, its literally how you were born so it makes no sense to despise it. ❤
This was a great conversation. I wear my afro majority of the time or straightened. On a challenge to not wear wigs for a whole year & only wear extensions that are a blowout texture that matches my hair.
Keep up the great conversations! 😊
Please, please, please. You beautiful South Sudanese woman.
You look much better with your natural hair.
Beautiful like God made you. Embrace it.
I now wear my hair in mini braids all day everyday. It's easy to maintain and grows faster. I just think we as black women look much better in our natural hair.
As you get older you will have more confidence in being natural. The way God Made you ❤
I’m listening but why wear a straight hair wig to your waist? It’s completely fake. That is definitely NOT your hair. Aren’t there wigs closer to your hair type? Plus it reflects poorly on mixed race black women whose natural hair is long and straight. It seems to people that All black women wear wigs, have straight perms or flat iron to straightness, however some of us don’t do this or need to do this.
Damn you ladies had me in tears with your brutal honesty.I have so much respect for because you did not lie nor deflect, project, and come up with excuses. I am MAD that you have to alter your hair just to be noticed, validated, loved, and respected. It is such bs that you have to go through all that. I am so sorry..you ladies are f...... gorgeous. I will admit as being a biracial male my hair is easy to care for even when it was longer in my younger days. My hair is 2c..so I never had to deal with the jokes because mine is considered "good hair" more european. Whites and blacks would always praise me by saying I am "lucky" that my hair looks more like my white mom. Looking back, it was wrong to say that to me on so many levels...because I can see why mixed race people develop a superiority complex...it all makes sense now smh. So many mixed race are seen as pretty bc of of having light skin, 2/3 hair light eyes etc.
The original subsaharan west africans were very dark/4c hair. Mixed race people esp the women are constantly placed over black women...and this is why I would never consider mixed as black because we are usually preferred by whites etc over nonmixed blacks. We have a totally different experience. I have a much better understanding of your situation, but wear your natural hair and stand tall. F...those silly weaves....whenever you wear them its like apologizing for being black(famous quote from Viola Davis). You are queens...without those weaves. Lots of love to you gorgeous women. I do understand 4c hair may experience breakage, so maybe explore wigs that are 4b/4c. At least in this case, you are presenting authenticity. If you want to instill pride to black girls/women to model, then practice what you preach and stand in it TALL. If people cannot accept your 4c hair...then it's your gain and their loss. I just want to hug you two for having the guts to speak your truth without excuses...xoxoxoxo.
We did not take offense to your original comment ☺️🤎 We definitely want to work on embracing our natural hair more as African women, but also wanted to share the factors that may cause black women in general to wear wigs/weaves. Thanks for being gracious!
What is the difference between women from Puerto Rico, south India, Nigeria and Guatemala if they are all the same color? It hair... Your hair texture represents your ancestry and where your people are from. Why hide where you come from in less you are ashamed? Be proud of who birthed you and who birthed her! Represent yourself to the fullest and step into your hair authenticity
I think we need to love our hair like the mixed community does regardless if the world doesn’t and not blame them for this.
This sounds easy, but we're either displaced or here in the Western Hemisphere by choice. How can black girls and women manage social isolation? Should we all move to Africa, where many of the women shave their heads or where scarves? Why do they do that?
Why are some of us under the impression that mixed women love their hair? They are getting that curly type 3 hair straightened, dyed and adding extensions to it as well. It isn't just a monracial black woman thing.
As someone from a mostly mixed population i can assure you that theres a lot of type 3 hair being straightened. This is not to take away from the discrimination that coily hair gets but its not that black and white
@@mendingwall3823yes but that is their own hair so its not as insecure as completely changing yourself.
this is interesting this came up today. i wore my natural 4c out and wore it to the stores as well as the gym and the way my confidence made lots of other women esp uncomfortable was eye opening and made me never want to cover it up again!
I call cap on black women's BS! It doesn't take all day to do your hair. It takes all day to get "defined curls" lay edges etc. why is it thay us black men with the same texture hair as our mother and sisters dont have the issues black women claim to have? Because we dont try to change our hair to a texture that is not our own. We dont stretch it or do other stuff to compromise the integrity of the strength of our hair.
Wigs and makeup doesn’t make you high maintenance high maintenance for me is investing in your skincare and hair
Sitting here in starter locs having a battle adjusting to the journey. This could not have come at the better time!!! Need to hear this conversation!
Yes it's form of selfhate
I honor you all for this topic it is something that disturbs me every single day and we refuse to talk about it. Bravo beloveds for discussing this topic it alters my spirit everyday very disappointing to see this everyday. This is a huge part of watching how we are being eased from society followed by the lightning of our skin. BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL!!! we are so lost.
Love how vulnerable and truthful u guys were. It makes people relate so much more. I love my natural hair. I just want length and more edges. But in terms of my texture and the colour, I absolutely have no problem with it. I can go to work with a bun and Karen and Suzy will just have to deal with it!!
I appreciate the honesty. As someone who has been natural since 1998, I want to encourage you to wear your hair however you choose. What I think is strange, however, is that people will invest so much time, effort and money into making their wigs and weaves look good, but will never do the same when it comes to taking care of their natural hair. Oftentimes, the natural hair under these hairpieces looks like it hasn't seen shampoo, deep conditioner or moisturizer in ages. It's also interesting that people will see how the wigs and weaves are damaging their hairline, to the point that their edges have migrated to the southernmost tip of Argentina, but continue to wear the wigs and weaves.
Ladies, the honestly was absolutely beautiful. It's a journey and I understand. I've had locs for 7 years and that was my journey. Be kind to yourself and your inner beautiful will project.
At least you ladies are being honest! I tried to embrace my natural hair and went 5 years without wigs and weaves. I do actually like my 4C texture however, I do not like the short length.
I think natural hair is only hard to deal with if you try to
Make it look like another texture it’s going to be hard
The man who said they just “want the cheeks” when they see women in wigs was just BS-ing around the truth lol. There’s plenty of women who don’t wear their natural hair that have relationships. It felt like that was another way of going around the point that men only like a certain TYPE of natural hair. Because type 4 natural hair, a bussdown, and locs pulls completely different men for a reason and it has something to do with texturism.
Thank you for posting the truth! We can't get over this topic because black people around the world struggle with colorism and hair texture is a big part of that.
@Slimgirl.coilyhair and that’s a cop out from the truth. Women who wear weave are not inherently insecure. Weave is conventionally attractive so you pull more people when you’re conventionally attractive. Texturism is apart of conventionality.
@@iiheartrice7783 why can't you accept someone's perspective and move along. Not everyone views the world in your lenses, the bottom line of having a conversation is to hear and learn from one another not just critic, critic, critic. #2 if you don't think sex is probably in the top 3 reasons men persue a relationship with the opposite sex then you need to sit down and reevaluate your thinking.
@@simba8665 bc this is the comment section and I wanted to make my comment first and move on.
@@iiheartrice7783 ok
The man with the plaster is a model to all men on this topic. Very encouraging to these women. They are indeed beautiful. Every one of them.
I really liked the woman with dreads. "I decided to do the journey with my daughter". That's the kind of woman I want my daughter around
I want to be mad at women who wear weaves but how can I? Look at how we get treated. Lol black women want to change but they have to be in a safe environment first.
No you don't. It's 2024, you literally just do it. If a man can come out the closet and say he likes to take meat from other men. You and other women can be comfortable wearing your own hair.
Not an excuse. What are you going to teach your daughter about embracing her natural hair.
I went natural in 2009, but in the middle of my journey for about 3-4 years, I started wearing straight weaves, then went straight back to strictly natural and now wear a twa that I water daily. My bf says this is the most badass and sexy I’ve ever looked, he’s not a brother but Mexican American. Other people also complement my hair since I’ve cut it short recent. I think a lot of the insecurities we have with wearing our natural hair especially if it is kinkier and/or shorter comes from conditioning in our youth (back in the days) because it is more acceptable now. It took me years to get to this point in my journey and I hope all black women get here soon too. ❤
SistaZ. Rock your NATURAL HAIR your NATURAL HAIR IS BEAUTIFUL. It also connects you to the ETHER & makes you more spiritual.
Ladies. I commend you on your candor and vulnerability. When we are critiqued on something as personal as our appearance-and especially our hair-it is never an easy conversation. I appreciate your honesty about your insecurities and your openness to embracing your natural hair. Thank you, Brother Emanuel, for your love and support. All the best to you ladies as you step into this wonderful new challenge. Blessings. ❤️❤️❤️
Yes. Appreciate the honesty.
So these women are confirming self hatred.
I'm going to save my comment until the end, I want to comment on everything. How protective is a style if it ends the life of your edges? And please, lets stop with the over generalizing, to make ourselves feel better. How many years has it be since you all have seen the high school halls. Your hair is difficult to deal with because you are spending all your time dealing with a wig! Back in my day wigs were for older ladies dealing with hair loss. My opinion, it's okay to wear a wig every once in a while. But take that extra time to love and care on YOUR hair and YOURself. I feel sad for you ladies, your worth depends on how others view you. Your worth was given to you by God and God alone, you do him a disservice by not honoring that. My last comment, I'm retired military, I transitioned will in the military. I now work for the government, I'm natural everyday (curly and straight). This is an internal issue. Lastly, I'm way older than you guys at 48, you all have time. My beautiful sisters God bless you all, loved the conversation!
I’m late to the party, but if you’re having a panel, I think it would be more helpful to try to get everyone in the screen at once because it’s just focused on the two main host.
YES I thought it was just me that noticed black American 4c hair looks different to African African hair, I live in the Uk but my ethnicity is Nigerian so Yh I think our hair is more course than theirs.
Because of their admixture with white
It could be worst, they could be wearing blond weave, but me personally I wouldn't date a black woman wearing European hair, it's something very wrong with that.
Weave 100% = self hate
Great topic ! Y’all hit it on the nail with this one. Salute
I listen to DIY hair care programs like this as I do my hair each weekend or 2 weeks. It keeps me company and committed as I continue to learn and enjoy doing this sacred ritual. I applaud all of the women on the panel for being completely honest about this topic. I have wavier textured hair but I also have gray hair which most women dye. So I know that it required confidence to embrace the road less traveled. I had to hear women call my hair brassy, green and other comments as I was growing out the color when I decided enough was enough. It was however the best decision I ever made. My hair is multi textured and I have and to learn to accept and honor how it wants to be along the way. Keep up the great work on the show. You are all inspiring on my continuous self love journey.
But one misconception is that we cannot put water in our hair…your hair needs moisture to grow and that’s why a lot of black women have trouble with breakage/dryness. I spritz my hair with water daily and seal it with a curl cream/spray and my hair has been growing and staying moisturized!
Ammanual is right
That was a very important conversation...thank y'all ❤
Thanks for a wonderful, eye opening, thought provoking video👍🏽
As one of the apparently rare Black Women who has always loved, appreciated, preferred, celebrated and boldly worn my natural froey hair -
You guys have given me the gift of reminding me that I am a rare gem indeed.
So thanks, I really appreciate it💜💜
For women of African descent with type 4 hair, no.
Historically, such women were not allowed to wear their hair in its “natural” state because it was perceived as unprofessional. Hence, the need for the recently passed (2022-2023) legislation called the CROWN act. This statewide law prohibits discrimination based on hair texture and style.
Secondly, men of African descent primarily “prefer” type 1-3 hair textures whether they admit it or not. Most women of African descent (at least 90% of them) have type 4 hair. Thus, they do not possess the preferred hair type of their male counterparts. The men say they prefer “natural” hair but that is NOT true based on their actions. Men of African descent have built very few institutions (e.g., organizations, publications, movies, music) that celebrate type 4 hair in its natural state. For example, show me the last time Jay Z had an ad that showcased a woman wearing the hairstyle he is currently wearing (freeform locks)? NEVER. Name a billionaire business executive, politician, attorney, medical doctor, or pastor of African descent who has a significant other who wears her type 4 hair in its natural state? NONE.
Finally, women have the right to be women and to wear their hair in whatever style they desire. Most of those complaining about women of African descent wearing weaves/wigs are simply jealous that it looks good on them, and they cannot do the same.
Excellent job, ladies!
Peace, love, and light.
Your Nigerian sister with a 4c afro
I feel like this video and this comment are mainly Black American talking points when it comes to this issue, as opposed to African American. I'm Black American but recently found out that today there are restrictions in some schools preventing young African students from wearing their hair in long/natural styles, but white and mixed race students can wear their hair, in Africa where Black people are the majority! I feel like a lot of people would rather identify with the Black American struggle than their own.
@@bdouglas9723the same talking points stand maybe except for the male perspective. African men in Africa don’t care about hair as much but overall in regards to social treatment and media representation 4C hair woman aren’t treated the same way. Have you seen African movies and their media representation? Like you stated in Africa students are forced to shave their hair down because it’s looked down upon. Whiteness has infiltrated how Africans view 4C hair. Some African schools won’t allow students to wear locs. If you want to be accepted in society or be seen as professional you are pushed into wearing weaves, straighten your hair or shaving it short in order to progress or be seen as beautiful. As Black woman regardless where live we face very similar struggles.
@arigodut shaving hair down is actually about maintenance not beauty standards. If we take south Sudan as an example, women are still deemed attractive with short hair. The men will still deem the woman as beautiful....not every single society is the same. This idea that eurocentric standards dominate every African society is also BS.
Your post is excellent!
@@KushQueen9Yes, I said that. I said “African men in Africa don’t care about hair that much” however we are still affected by Eurocentric beauty standards. Bleaching is widely done and women are still treated differently when we wear our hair out in its natural state.
For me yes because I wanted the attention of black men like other races were getting now I am older I am doing hairstyles that look more like mine so I can appreicate my texture. I can admit that.
Wearing white and asia hair screams serious insecurities in our community. It's extremely we sad we hate who we are.
I LOVE this channel. Next video come natural...please xo. One correction he said AA girls have range...its because of their mixed heritage(european/native)...most AA are multi-generational mixed thats why there are ranges.
Heyyy! We’re glad you enjoyed this 🤎 And thank you for your comment that helped preface this episode.
The respect I have for your honesty is extremely high…this is the only way we can solve our worlds ills by confronting the dynamics that shape how we see ourselves.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Men like this restore my faith in our male counterparts. Thank you for being normal! ❤
Me thinking yall had 1M subbies. Wow….this was amazing, great quality, audio & set up.❤ keep going ladies.
Are we going to have our first LOS wedding soon??
Thank you for another great episode, ladies. I appreciate the honesty and vulnerability of this conversation.
I can relate to the anxiety of not feeling presentable when wearing my natural hair out. Similarly, I have felt underdressed at fancy events while wearing my natural hair/braids vs. a wig or weave. It's comforting to know that I am not alone in these feelings and I thank you all for providing a safe space for these conversations.
The problem is we should do what we want when want without the pressure of anything outside of us.
I just have to say that you all are beautiful! I just wanted to emphasize that our hair is being HIDDEN AND COVERED UP. Our hair can'fully thrive the way it was meant to being covered up all of the time. I am natural and have been for 7 years now. 3c very kinky and coily. I have recently completely decided that I am enough! I don't need to add to what my Creator made. Enhancing our features is great but when our need to fit in and be like everyone that society says is the standard, that means we need to self-reflect! The most freeing thing for me is that I am free in my mind and my hair should represent that. Also, for the little Mama's that look up to us, whhat message are we sending? What are we silently saying to them. We havve to doo the work, learn our haie just like we learn our body. It is a relationship. Would you want to be with someone that doesn't want to show you to the world? No... Our hair feels the same way. The itching, our scalp and hair sceeaming to be feee. At the end of the day, we all have to do what works for ourselves,but at the same time, truth will set us free!! Be blessed❤❤
Nothing wrong with a weave just wear the textures that match yours whether pressed or curly. Stop wearing the damn Indian/euro textures that don’t match your type 3/4 hair.
The style of hair you’re wearing may not speak to your character, but it does speak to your level of self-esteem. No one is attracted to someone who appears to have low self-esteem.
Thank you for your honesty. You are all very beautiful, and you will be more beautiful with your natural hair.stop supporting other people’s economy they don’t respect our people. One love my daughters.
Wearing weave of your natural texture makes no difference. The goal post gets moved again. When women wear kinky hair, people say its still fake hair and you should grow your own
It's self hate
Not everybody wears a wig or weave. I am a 71 yr old black woman who has been natural for many, many years. I never wore a wig nor weave. And I don’t judge people for wearing them. You do you.
Am lost about our hair not liking water, water breaks the 4c hair? I am 4c and my hair thrives only with water. Water causes shrinkage that is all. And shrinkage caused by water makes my hair is softer etc. Spend time with your natural hair, give it a real chance before making such discouraging statements for the sake of newbies.
I appreciate you all being very honest on the topic though.
People have preconceived notions about all types of people this is about hair you’re trying to look white .black women that don’t wear wigs fit the beauty standard more than the ones that wear wigs and if they take care of their hair it’s beautiful
Yes, more than likely it is. #truthhurts
Thanks for talking on this
Do locks or twists.
You ladies look great, Black beauty personified, but your hair starkly clashes with your phenotype so much that its distracting. Your weave doesnt at all look like it could be coming from your very Black self. My 22 year old daughter has had long beautiful fuul locs since she was 7-9.
If you wear extensions, for goodness sake, wear kinky Africoid textured extensions please. Yall are beautiful. Stay rising.
It's so interesting listening to this after the "lets take Arab culture out of south Sudan". There was so much energy about that but this one is full of excuses
ALL THE WOMEN IN THE THUMBNAIL WEAR WEAVES ! BUT IT LOOKS GLAMOUROUS !
Definitely self hate let's be real. We don't appreciate our own beauty and would rather hide who we are.
So basically “Black Women” are insecure about their hair, but wat about the 30lb makeup, fake long nails and eyelashes? 🤔😑🚮
On the topic of the price of braids, raiders need to make a living too. They’re on their feet 8+ hours doing your hair, hurting their back, their fingers, etc. if people are willing to pay, let them make their price.
Insecurities low self-esteem
Well now that you have a platform and you're grown woman, why don't you give it a try to let your natural hair out? Maybe NOW your experience will be different and better!
great conversation !
I only date women with natural hair .🎉
Having to invest your entire day to take care of our hair is the answer to this question. I'm a dark skin black woman who is a victim of the diaspora. My hair is true 4c. Black men aren't looking for us with natural hair. Don't be fooled.
Yeah because they have a choice to look at the wig wearers but if every black woman ditched the wig then they will have no choice but love natural hair!
Why don't you focus on who is checking for you though
Why do you hate to always bring up colorism? It is what it is. It’s a thing and don’t let anyone make you feel bad about talking about it.
As a South Sudanese (Dinka) woman - I would love to speak on your podcast!! ❤ I am in DFW area and have A LOT to say about these topics concerning all these topics that pertain to our community as well as Black community in general. Any things concerning these topics like today’s natural hair discussion, family ties, homophobia, alcoholism/addiction in the community. Let me know who to contact about featuring and i’ll be otw!!! 🤞🏿
We would LOVE to have you!! We are always searching for local South Sudanese voices, especially women. Please fill out the first link on our linktree. It is a guest intake form. Once filled out, someone on our team will be in touch regarding upcoming shoots. linktr.ee/ladiesofsosa
I think all of you women are very beautiful but what you have to take in consideration You're doing exactly what they want us to do when it comes to our wonderful attribute to fashion you are clearly letting the Europeans play the narrative and they're winning and I hate that for us by the way are you guys going to talk about bleaching of the skin as well
19:47 Why does he have a band-aid on his lip?
LIP GUY IS LYING HIS A ..OFF INSTAGRAM MODEL IS THE NORM ! STOP THE CAP !
This is so sad they get teased for natural hair growing up ...this is so disgusting. I hope one day they can go back to their natural beauty
Actually that is the whole point when you say other races do it is the problem in our race trying to be other than who we naturally are. Again self hatred and it is destroying us.
Hmmmm, 🤔, Black men often dictate how black women should look, yet ironically, many of these men prefer dating outside their race or favor light-skinned, long-haired black women. Unlike black women, we don't impose fashion or hairstyle choices on black men, the call is for everyone to embrace their individuality and feel comfortable, beautiful, and confident. We are all individuals and should be treated and seen as such!
High five to all members of the large forehead, aka ‘five head’ tribe! 😁
With my natural hair all men approach me. Even older white men.
To answer your question no you can't.
No. The question is can you be a proud African woman wearing European textured hair. It’s not about a weave because weave comes in kinky texture and y’all never buy it.
I wear my natural hair straight…. So I hate myself? Even tho I’ve worn my curls and have had 2 sets of locs for 14 years? Laughable. It’s a hairstyle. Now if you wear a different texture because you hate your hair, THATS self hate.
My opinion is this and I believe I'm correct, mind your own business there are billions of people in the world we all have different cultures and different ways of culturally expressing our hairstyle or we just may want to change temporarily or permanently whoever decides to do what with their hair is their business.
Show your real self and the man that comes up to you will 10 times out of 10 will like you for who u really are…don’t come in lying from the gate ❤s
Emmanuel needs to stop cap’n!! 😂 the guys who want you natural, especially all of a sudden, just don’t want you looking appealing to other men. I definitely pull more dudes when I’m weaved up or braided up vs out here lookin like Celie with a blow dry 🤣
It’s more bout being oppressed to have hair like others in the community. It’s not really a choice sometimes
Synthetic beauty is easy to mentain, yet as a 🇸🇸🇨🇦 ya'll, my sosa ladies need to remember your men prefer you natural hair.
7:00 you're not dark skin you're brown skin no the difference I know women and people darker than you.
It is self hate
You guys are adult women on a panel, talking about getting roasted in high school. That has nothing to do with how adult men respond to adult women. Kids are going to roast you for anything. Adult black men are saying that they don’t like black women that are trying to look like white women. You need to stop it.
I don't like the hair typing. Nobody ever said anything about hair type back in the day. This type of hair typing gives little girls a complex. Who came up with this BS. I think all of you are pretty girls and you are just wearing "A STYLE" natural 1234 ABC hair is ridiculous. Just learn to love your natural hair and your weave both with the same amount of love. Relaxed hair is only damaged when you don't know how to take care of it.
You guys are not Dark skin!
Sorry.
you guys are your biggest critics nobody cares if you wear you natural hair none of the women in my family wear wigs and they all corporate
I am a black man that used to wear my hair low brush length. This style was more excepted within my corporation than when I chose to let my hair grow to a low length afro. My hair was still very professional...but some of the white men gave funny looks and said silly jokes about my hair. This did not bother my confidence at all... as the woman...including their white woman looked at me and spoke to me totally opposite to those white men. I knew I was still the finest man in the place...no matter how I chose to wear my hair. Why do black woman not respond to societies ignorance as I do?