GREEN BERET Reacts to HEAT | Beers and Breakdowns
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
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The technical advisor for this movie was Andy McNab. A former member of the British 22 SAS. That is why the action scenes are so accurate.
Common knowledge bro
@@Last_Chance.Not that common. Neither host knew. And I’m not your bro.
@@Tetleyb you're right you're definitely not my bro. But most people know that's why there's probably 25 comments on here saying the same exact thing. Smdh.
In the 80's, Michael Mann used a guy named Jim Zubiena. Google him, check out his work.
I believe former SAS member Mick Gould was responsible for most of Michael Mann's technical advising in his films, this one included, they had a long history together, and yes as others have mentioned it's well known that Andy was there too, pretty sure Mick trained Tom cruise for collateral, I actually preferred the ending of the original TV movie version of heat called LA takedown, lesser known actors and it still has the classic deniro and Pacino scene. Both great movies of course
Val Kilmer’s reload scene was shown to USMC recruits as an example of a proper and rapid reload.
Yes! My buddy told me about them showing that scene when he was in the Marines (early to mid 2000s). "If that Hollywood pussy can change a mag like that, then so can you!"
I believe the instructor said something along the lines of "if you can't reload better than this actor, you don't belong in the marines"
"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walkout on in 30 seconds flat,
if you feel the heat around the corner.”
EPIC movie
Solid life advice. I find no fault in it.
@@The2ndFirst True story
I’ve thought about this. Very hard to do in 2023. You have to make your money portable. I’m not so sure if crypto currency is the reliable way to go. I guess an off shore account in Panama City maybe. Even if you don’t talk to any of your former contacts, I watched a documentary once about a private investigator who’s specialized in tracking people. Especially people who tried to fake their death. Not saying it’s not doable, but I think you have to a phd in crime to be able to thrive these days.
That rule has helped my life in more ways than one. True, lol.
I need someone to explain this quote to me, I don't fully understand it.
RIP Tom Sizemore. Unbelievably good movie! One of my favourites.
Rip indeed. Amazing actor
Tom was so underrated. Brilliant actor.
The Fire and Maneuver scene is one of the best action scenes ever. The Sound Effects were as good as it gets.
Yes, epic. Michael Mann is a fan of realism and I believe they edited in real live fire sounds into the scene.
@@OisinClissmann It was actually the real sound of the blanks and all the echos that was used.
I've heard they show that scene in some military classes on how to move, suppress, and reload because it was so accurately well done.
When attempting to add sound effects, they found that the sound recorded during filming was better so they used it instead.
The sound in the movie is the actual sound as recorded during filming. One early cut of the scene had sound effects replacing the recorded sound, and director Michael Mann said "Where is my sound?" so they removed the fake sound effects and went with the sound as recorded, including the awesome echo between the buildings.
Many before me have said this: Val Kilmer's reload technique in this scene was so spot on and excellent, that snippet of this scene has been used in US Military and LE training.
Val Kilmer totally killed it in this movie.
The actors were trained in handling the weapons and in tactics by former SAS operator(s) one of them "Andy McNab" the pseudonym for Steven Billy Mitchell
Yep , that’s a awesome fact , you can see it in the shirt bursts
@@thesmanbrowne4561 Correct, this also the standard way we who have served in the Finnish Armed Forces have always been trained when comes to firing automatic
He is the one the film “Bravo Two Zero” protraded. And he has also been the advisor om the game battle field 3.
@@Taberpony Correct, Bravo Zero Two was the patrol team he commanded during the Gulf War, and also the name of the Novel he wrote and that the movie is based on.
@@TheApilas Chris Ryan (also part of Bravo two zero wrote his own book on the subject they did a TV drama "the one who got away" which is worth a watch but don't expect too much from it, it's dated and the has that "made for television" feel
I remember that North Hollywood shootout that Abel was talking about. It happened in 1997 which was 2 years after Heat came out. It's featured on those Banned from TV VHS tapes and it's also on UA-cam.
Same
"SWAT" with Colin Farrell had an opening scene that was definitely taken from the North Hollywood shootout
@@hachimanjiro yep
I’m sure that the two robbers felt that heat was specifically made for them in their crazy minds. Just like in heat they robbed a armored truck and killed one of the guards couple years before the Hollywood heist. A vhs tape of heat was found in their vcr when the police raided their house after the shooting.
Same
I like how Abel says "I have one of those." Then Buck says "No you don't, you don't even have a BB gun.' 😆
These guys are always hilarious
Buck, De Niro already was a green beret. You're forgetting The Deer Hunter
Speaking fax lol.
this is this, this ain't somethin else, this is this
classic
De Niro is old school. If they filmed him with the finger on the trigger after editing, I can’t imagine how much they probably tried to remind him, (aka Godfather, Raging Bull. Goodfellas) to get his gunplay right. I know he’s an ok dude (not a saint, but not a dick). But I imagine he eventually gets annoyed at the unit director or stunt coordinator or whatever. Either way, I’d love to see the bloopers on that.
@@apok1980 DeNiro is left handed. In Taxi Driver, during the gun dealer scene AND on his own in the apartment, he sights with his right eye, with left closed. This brings the pistol out of alignment with his arm. Cringy.
similar misalignment in First Blood. Galt is aiming a hunting rifle; right handed, and sights with his left eye on the scope. Makes no sense.
I totally remember that. They had AK's with drum magazines and side arms. (and I think they just had "full metal jacket" ammo, not specifically "armor piercing.") They had also duct taped 2 layers of military plate carrier plates all over their body, so they were being shot by cops with no apparent effect. While the robbers stuck together initially, they eventually split up. Meanwhile, the cops went to a gun store and got more powerful weapons, then cornered one of the guys while he was trying to carjack a vehicle and riddled him with bullets. He surrendered but died soon after. The other guy walked into a neighborhood, having dropped the AK because he ran out of ammo. He then pulled his side arm and pointed it under his helmet, taking his own life.
They both had full auto type 56 ak’s. They both had a second rifle. One had a full auto G3. The other had a full auto bushmaster AR15 dissipator. And beretta 92’s as sidearms. They had good taste for sure
The North Hollywood shootout. Must the scary for the cops to realized they are wayy under equipped
"North Hollywood shootout"
They made a pretty cool movie about it called 44 minutes: north hollywood shootout a while back
If i remember correctly officers had to raid a hunting/gun shop for high powered hunting rifles since all the police carried were .38 and 9mm handguns with a shotguns here and there.
My fav movie of all time. This is what Emil Matasurano and Larry Phillips had in their VHS player before they robbed BOA.
It was mine for a very long time. It’s still very close to the top but was supplanted by Blade Runner 2049
@@thedavescloop Did we just become best friends?! Loved 2049 but Heat is and probably always will be my all-time favorite film. I used to say Michael Mann was my all-time favorite director, but I think it's Denis Villeneuve now. Every movie he's made has been my favorite film of that given year. 2049 being no exception.
@@nathanhaney91 Dude…are you me?! Mann was my favorite director until after collateral which was his last good movie. And Villeneuve is absolutely by favorite director currently. I hope they get him to do the third Sicario film, though I doubt it. I’m even a cyclist. I don’t think I’m in the air force though. Wait, AM I IN THE AIR FORCE?! ……fox three? Oh shit I am!
@@thedavescloop Haha possibly. I think Public Enemies was Mann's last good film. As for Villeneuve, I'm just counting down the days until Dune 2...can't freakin wait! I worry about a third Sicario ever happening since Taylor Sheridan seems to be keeping busy with all of his TV stuff :(
The reason bullets in Michael Mann's movies sound better than anyone else's is because he puts dozens of microphones all over the area and records the real shooting noise and how the blast wave expands over the place. This is very clear in the final shootout in HEAT, where you can hear the bullet sounds reverberating over the skyscrapers windows. Other movies just use generic bullet libraries that are added in post, or a single microphone over the actor.
I agree!
Yup. In Collateral when Tom Cruise's character shoots the thugs in the alley, the best handgun sound.
"Andy McNab" (22 SAS) was the technical advisor on this film and choreographed the gunfight scenes, as well as coached the actors on how to look like they knew what they were doing.
...and Mick Gould (also 22 SAS).
not true...McNab trained the actors in how to handle weapons but he certainly did not choreograph any gunfight scenes.. Michael Mann has directed action scenes in many of his movies and he directed ( choreographed ) all of the shootout... Andy Mcnab knows nothing about directing , cameras or editing . He had nothing to do with the filming ...only the training.
The “LA shootout” you guys spoke about is North Hollywood shootout at a Bank of America in 1997, or maybe 1998.
Edit: forget Steven Seagal’s sound effects when you have “Buck” Rogers’ PEW PEW effects.
I think there's a (tv?) movie about exactly that, called "44 Minutes", February 97, with Michael Madsen & Mario van Peebles, the 2 bad guys had full body armor, so many weapons & ammo, it's as close as it can humanly possible get to be like the fucking Terminator going on a rampage.
Don't remember the real details, but the movie is quite good, it seems realistic, believable, and when SWAT came in, they realy had to fight.
Imoressive thing to achieve, if I remember correctly, no one died, except 1 bad guy.
This happening in a not-warzone, a shootout of that size, is kinda special crazy-scary...
@@eldritchmorgasm4018 They took some drug prior to the shootout that was meant to relax them. Like xanax or something. Didn't work out obviously.
@@eldritchmorgasm4018 I would read up on the shoot out itself because it’s a very intriguing. Both shooters were killed, one killed himself either by accident or suicide, the other died from blood loss. A crazier robbery was the Norco Bank Shootout of 1980. 30 police cars were disabled, a dozen cops shot with one killed. The robbers all had .308 Semi Auto Rifles with improvised Rifle Grenades, they even shot down a Helocopter.
@@eldritchmorgasm4018 I believe two TV movies were made about that incident and has been ripped off a few times in movies (SWAT in 2003). I remember that day vividly, watching it all go down on TV live. Cops went to local gun stores asking to use more firepower than their lonely handguns which were doing NOTHING to those guys
I think they where ex rangers too not sure
RIP to Tom Sizemore 😢: he was great in saving private Ryan and heat and other good movies but those 2 are the highlights
I was a fan of Sizemore. I grew up on all the movies he was in. I know he was the punching bag in Hollywood, but I always see him as the blue collar NCO in movies. I vaguely remember him getting fired off of “Eyes Wide Shut” because he lost his cool….. or rather specimen on Nicole Kidman. But it was a movie about people having orgies during a simulated scene, so it would have been nice if he was forgiven.
When I’m in the mood to be a little sarcastic with my wife, I call her “Ace”. To this day she has no clue what that’s about.
He was epic in NATURAL BORN KILLERS also very underrated
@@hectormartinez9657 doesn't he call people "slick" in heat, maybe "ace" is from something different?
You know what? I think you’re right. I will just have to start calling my wife “Slick” from now on 😂.
I'm surprised there was no comment on Val Kilmer's magazine change when engaging the police.
Absolute classic that still has one of the best shootouts/ all around best action sequences ever.
Notice how there's NO music in the bank robbery fight scene. It adds so much to the realism.
I love Heat and you did really good breakdown here. Please consider Collateral from the same director. Tom Cruise was trained even better for his role and you gonna love it I'm sure.
Both the town and Tennessee’s were highly inspired by heat, many of the classic modern heist tropes come from this film.
That scene with Al Pacino and Robert de Niro in the restaurant is what made me want to make movies.
Pretty sure Heat won a Oscar for Sound editing/effects. They spent plenty of time to get the sounds correct
They recorded the actual gunfire sounds and post production they tried to replace the sounds but realized the actual gunfire was outstanding. The echo is what I love the most. Kilmer reloading is also a favorite moment.
Michael Mann is probably my favorite director still in the game. He nails the perfect blend of character, drama, and action and makes his actors go through intensive weapons training.
He did great work with Collateral but he really dropped the ball with Blackhat and Miami Vice.
@FNGACADEMY Two corrections: 16:59 Val Kilmer clearly has an HK-91 at the drive-in, not an FN FAL. 27:00 Robert De Niro's Sig P220 is in single action with the hammer to the rear. Taking up the slack in the trigger of a P220 will in fact result in the trigger being nearly completely depressed to the rear and you'd certainly want to have your finger on the trigger with the slack taken up and ready to fire in this situation where a close pursuer could come around the corner at any moment. I'm surprised as a Green Beret and Officer you're not familiar with a P226 or M11 (P228), which are very similar in function.
Just prior to the LAPD RHD responding to the bank heist, the movie reported that the LAPD SIS Unit advised of the Suspects whereabouts at the bank. In all actuality, the SIS Unit would be the ones to initiate the police intervention, and not RHD. Historically, LAPD SIS trained SEAL teams on surveillance and counter measures. I once work alongside a SIS Detective before he retired, and he had 17 kills in the Unit. SIS only went after the top 5% of the most violent suspects in LA City.
Kilmer and the "bad guys" were trained by Andy McNab... on that note he also trained Tom Cruise for collateral
I'm surprised you never heard of the North Hollywood shootout, it's the whole reason police carrying assault rifles in their cars now. And the "house" in the middle of the "parking lot" is actually a concessions stand at a drive-in. It made me feel really old, when you guys didn't know that. 😁
Bob lm
My Grandfather rode a horse for transportation. My generational hallmark is going to drive in movie theaters, because that's what you did. First movie I ever saw on a television was Star Wars, on a Betamax. 😄
Pacino and the FN FNC go so perfectly together for some reason
True but has he ever looked bad? He would look cool fighting with a toothpick 😂
i wait all week for your GREEN BERET Reacts to... videos! keep up the great work on ALL your endeavors bro!
This is worth watching the making of. Michael Mann is always big on getting good advisors in for stuff. It's legit fascinating as a process
Fun Fact: This movie uses two actors that played serial killers in 2 different Hannibal Lecter movies/franchise. The actor that played "Waingro" in Heat was "Buffalo Bill" in Silence of the Lambs. The actor that played "Kelso" in Heat played "The Tooth Fairy" in "Manhunter (1986)," the first movie in this franchise. Heat was directed by Michael Mann who knew both of these actors from previous projects.
The Actor that played Buffalo Bill was a different Actor than the one that played Waingro. "Buffalo Bill" was Ted Levine. "Waingro" was Kevin gage.
You're wrong. Ted Levine played Buffalo Bill. Waingro was played by Kevin Gage 🤦♂️
Ted Levine plays Bosco in Heat.
Oh, that's right. Ted Levine played, "Detective Mike Bosko" In Heat. That's the other actor I was thinking of. Thanks guys 🙂
I was completely immersed, heart pounding, adrenalin flowing while I watched this with friends, in a theatre setting. 10/10
I'm glad Abel is finally sharing his tactical expertise! Its pretty clear from watching previous episodes that Buck had a pretty underwhelming military career (never even did a day raid in all black BDUs), so its nice to hear from somebody who does actually talk the talk AND walk the walk!
The FN Para 7.62 I had in late 80s, was an awesome riffle!!
they used a lot of cool ones in this
I cut my teeth on the SLR version way back in the day, left school at 16 went for selection with the Royal Marines served in 42commando great rifle "the right arm of the free world"
@@hachimanjiro we operated together with you Brits under the “Amber Star” joint mil op in the mid-90’s in Croatia (the Serbian enclave). I was a young SSG with Green Berets at the time, but hats off to your Royal Seals. Tough mofos mentally and one helluva drinkers literally!!
@@R12gsa09 Cheers my brother,got the highest respect for you guys too, hope your doing well and all is good with you!
The action is the juice.
NH bank robbery was “inspired” by Heat. I work with the lapd SWAT operator who fired under the truck, he now has 50 plus years in law enforcement. Patrol was obviously heavily outgunned. Some officers went to B&B guns down the street and commandeered some AR’s but I don’t think they deployed the rifles. This led ultimately to availability of rifles for patrol when previously only Tac teams carried rifles.
This was a redo of a made for tv movie Michael Mann made called L.A. Takedown. You can really enjoy the acting between Pacino and DeNiro when you see the two actors in the tv movie during the restaurant meeting scene.
F-ing legend! I thought it would be a great idea to do a video about this movie and yet here you are. Can't wait to see it
Great minds think alike
@@Last_Chance. ditto
The North Hollywood bank robbery happened a couple of years AFTER the movie came out.
Most realistic gun crazy gun fight in a movie ever. The brass hitting the pavement and the way they had the sirens coming in from a far when they are in the middle of a shit storm is so accurate.
Dude!!! I have been waiting for this! LFG!!!
Abel doing techno babble explosives speak is the best Abel.
Love these vids! Please keep them coming.
An incredibly intense, beautifully set-up and executed movie with unforgettable sequences and actors.
Such a good damn movie!!!! Heat and Ronin are two of my favorites in the genre.
Kilmers tac reload is one of the better examples of proper training that you will see. He definitely put in the work at the range. Loved the movie. Great channel guys.
This is one my go tos when someone asks for a badass movie they've never seen. It surprises me how many people have never seen this. The use of audio levels throughout the film is amazing and makes the heist firefight one of the most intense in cinema for me.
Michael Mann was the director of Heat and the one who goes into detail on all the authentic shootouts and guns. He was the one behind Miami Vice, one of the greatest TV shows ever. You guys should review Last of the Mohicans (1992), Mann directed that as well, one of my top 5 favorite films.
The gunplay in this movie was wild
The action is the juice.
Lets go 🍻
I was waiting for you to cover this one (and a cop movie to boot). Great work!
When you brought up the crazy L.A shootout in Hollywood, after the shootout was over, they raided the guys place and the movie HEAT was actually in the VCR.
More fact about the FN FNC is that Sweden Armed Forces uses a modified license built version know as AK5.
Yep you are correct
Definitely would love to see a break down of the north Hollywood shootout, even though I've seen plenty of breakdowns of it, it would be awesome to see a beers and breakdown of it
About the cars discussion at 12:55 - the truck is a brand new, large Dodge RAM (2500?). As a car, it's intimidating by it's sheer size. It's speaks to how the opposition is more about looks. DeNiro drives in a non-descript station wagon. He cares nothing about the appearances - all he cares about is the functionality, with a sniper overlooking the meeting place.
What a classic movie! I've loved watching this even as a kid I knew it was pretty damn realistic.
Dang, you missed the Val Kilmer reload during the street shoot out. I would have loved to have heard your comments on that!
ill double back on a top 10 shootout video
Yup, apparently when Bradley Cooper was training gun handling for the a-team, his on screen goal to beat was val's reload in heat.
Val Kilmer’s reload scene was shown to USMC recruits as an example of a proper and rapid reload.
@@williamflowers9435 ua-cam.com/video/uGmT8UTPaco/v-deo.html
Thank you FNG Team 🙏🙏
Awesome 👌
you bet!
Very good review. This is one of my favorite movies of all time. When it came out, I had the VHS then a bit later, bought the DVD. I probably listen to this movie twice a year since it came out!
Thanks guys. First time on your channel and I loved the insight and the review. Been working as a paramedic a few years so details, in movie, is important to me! I could tell a few story where I have worked as a consultant. Have a great evening!
Love the commentary and movie choices. Heat is an all time favorite and extremely accurate IMHO.
Have you considered putting yourself in the small box and movie clips in the larger so they are more easily seen?
Maybe a problem with copyright bs
@@hachimanjiro not sure but others do it.
They used actual blank cartridges in the guns for this movie, which is why the guns sound so good. Most all movies now a days just add the gunfire sound in post production. You don't get that realistic muzzle flash and loud explosive sound.
And the echoes off the buildings. Extremely well done!
Always looking for your beers and breakdowns
Hit the nail on the head with shooting sounds. I’ve always felt uneasy watching these scenes and that’s exactly why.
The north Hollywood shootout, look up the movie 44 minutes.
I loved the breakdown! I hope you guys can do a beers and breakdown for Michael Mann's other movie Miami Vice.
Uber underrated movie. Best soundtrack of any movie
Any Michael Mann film has better than normal for Hollywood gun-handling. Mann actually trained with Ray Chapman back in the day, and had Chapman train James Cann for "Thief", his first feature film in 1981. He was "Cooper School", which led to Don Johnson using the Bren 10 in the first several seasons of Miami Vice. "Collateral" with Tom Cruise is also another Mann film.
Been waiting forever for y’all to do Heat 👏
i think a beers and breakdowns on the first Predator would be awesome
I feel like there are still a lot of good movies. But a lot of worst things to filter through.
The feeling older movies were better is probably because we only watch and remember the good ones from that era.
Heat was revolutionary for recording the actual audio from the blanks being fired. The actors were trained and fired for real. That's why it sounds so real, because it is.
TMI: this movie was released few months prior to the "North Hollywood Bank Shootout".
Bounding and talking weapon systems in this moving was amazing. Great shootouts.
your joke dialogue about "you owe me $60" is better than most actual Segal movie dialogue!
Michael Mann is still underrated even after dropping classics all over the crime genre. I mean he even made the first Hannibal Lecter movie. He deserves more recognition
HOW is Mann underrated? I think you and your whole generation needs to delete that term from your vocabulary.
I purchased the Dragon Breath shotgun ammo after watching John Wick 4.
I purchased it after black ops 1
I love that shot at the airport at the end. I don't know why, but Pacino pivoting to DeNiro and shooting, with the camera close on his upper body and the sharp light contrast just catches me. I love to rewatch that moment again and again.
💯💯💯Yeah that scene is sick!
I remember what Abel is talking about, the North Hollywood shootout in the 90's. That was crazy and is what lead to cops carrying rifles and larger caliber rounds. I would love to see a breakdown of that shootout.
I've heard the tactics Val Kilmer showed during the shootout in Downtown were so good Ranger cadre used the clip as an example to guys on how to properly reload, cover fire, and transition cover/shooting positions. The part where Abel broke down his use of explosive was hilarious.
Thank you guys for doing this I've been wanting this one for a while! Keep it going.
Heat is my FAVORITE movie of all times! I was a fan of Deniro and Pachino, but they achieved god status when I saw it. I didn’t even see it when it came out. A friend of mine gave me the Heat dvd for my birthday or something around 2000 I think. Also, I discovered Michael Mann watching this movie and am a fan of everything he does because his cinematography and semi-doc filming is iconic. That’s why you have to watch Collateral and Miami Vice (movie) because they are just beautiful to watch. Chris Nolan made his crew watch all of Michael Mann’s movies before filming “The Dark Knight” in order to get that feel. You’ll notice even in Heat a Michael Mann signature is a shot of the city at night from the helicopter. I probably sound like a movie nerd, but I’m not. I’m just a nerd for Heat.
This Movie is a Masterpiece
Classic
Dialogue Bingo! I like it! 😂
We watched this on a bus ride in the overhead during movement to staging when I was in the Infantry and everyone in the unit loved it - talking about bounding
My guess is they synchronized small charges to break the car windows. It seemed too deliberate in the shot.
Heat!! Great Movie. Please break down the Los Angles shootout. plenty of footage and info out there.
will do!
I’ve heard nothing but praise for HEAT combat seances massively respect you and this film
I love the fact they used the on location audio recording for the shootout scene instead of a generic sound effect from a library, also without any music the whole scene just feels utterly real, like Al Pachino is in a legit gunfight with Robert De Niro 😂
I'm not sure if it's been recommended or not, but if it hasn't, can you react to the equalizer movies with denzel washington
Please review The Way of the Gun with Benicio Del Toro. This movie used a navy seal to consult with the tactics. 👍
will do!
@@FNGACADEMY it’s so badass.. the last scene at the Mexican motel is epic. James Caan was a legend.
Heat is one of my favorite movies, also check out 'Man on Fire" and "Collateral" (also directed by Michael Mann, who directed Heat).
This my favorite movie. You inhabit the world while youre watching and its a sick world
drugs are powerful. Stay away from them
They had very good team movement( fire reload cover) thanks to ex sas member as technical advisor , think the same guy trained Tom cruise for Collateral.
Yep. So good. For any interested, the advisor was Andy McNab, author of Bravo Two Zero.
Glad Abel is back. He's a bit sketchy, but entertaining.
Sketchy?
What does he sketch? Sounds like a cool hobby?
@@luxurybuzz3681 dodging the draft and all that.
Well I mean generally speaking power bottoms are quite sketchy
@@abefroman4953 he drafted a sketch?
That's really cool
Such an epic movie!! Ha just seeing the review, I'm going to watch it again tonight .
The one that everyone's been waiting for
terrific movie !!!! The Bank Robbery Scene is so Refreshing and Exciting !!!
Great video again. Thanks a lot. And again big hello out of Thailand 😅
A detail i remember from Heat is the reverb in the open space from the shots, you hear the ecko in the street, keep up the good work and push push push 🤙🏻😎💯
the shout out in 1997 in Hollywood, a year after graduated high school.. I remember!💚🖤
One of thee major reasons why the guns sound so good in Heat is because almost every shot fired is real. They used blanks so the audio is raw real audio of the shootout that cannot be replicated by what films do now, recording the sound effects in a controled area and editing it in later.
It sounds real because it is. The director had the vision to capture all the sound in every scene from actual guns firing, which is what makes the city shootout so amazing, hearing the sounds bounce around the buildings.
Great podcast 😊