0:00 - 3:21 So the impression I get after watching this segment is, Negan didn't choose Abraham at random; he chose him because Abraham's body language (by straightening up while Negan stood in front of him, while everyone backed down) made him a threat to Negan. If Negan _hadn't_ killed Abraham, but _had_ broken Rick, then Abraham would've likely taken over the group and led an attack against Negan in the future.
SynValorum Negan saw a physical threat by that look. Like ’if we make it out of this I'll cut ur sack open..’ he had Carl to mindfuck Rick with. Maggie to Glenn, but that Abraham kill was almost a I'm scared of this guy if we ever get Alone lol. Fuckin loved Abe..
yeah that's a primitive thing. It's sorta like two males contesting each other in the wild, only in this case Abraham probably knew he was screwed and just wanted to go with his head held high, being a tough soldier and all. And Negan just took offense to it.
The thing is that rick is a better leader due to him actually having compassion and caring about his people and him seeing them as equal to him. There's a respect there that negan will not, and does not give.
Also, you forgot to bring up how he psychologically controls his victims. First example we see of this is when he leaves his axe on the table behind him. Right in front of Rick, just a grab and attack away from killing Negan while his back was turned. But when he actually tried and Negan turned around and told him to drop it, he completely changed the way Rick now thinks. Now, if Rick ever gets the opportunity to stab him in the back, he'll think twice. He'll assume Negan is always one step ahead of him and can't be caught by suprise, so Rick won't ever attempt that again. First time we see Negan taking advantage of that is when he let's Rick hold his bat the whole episode, while he steals all of their weapons and half of their possessions. Negan just handed Rick the ability to end it right then and there by giving him lucille, but he knows he won't lift a finger because he doesn't just physically control him now, he psychologically controls him. Rick believes that Negan can't be snuck up on, and now he'll be too afraid to ever try to. Even if he knows of a plan that would work, he will always second guess himself and never actually attempt to execute it because Negan has the upper hand psychologically.
That makes sense but I more thought it was because, if Rick did anything like that, the Saviors would drop them several times over and they'd just get wiped out. But Negan definitely is a very intelligent person. Notice in 701 how everyone is lounged over but Abraham is very stern. Negan takes out the dominant member of the group, Daryl retaliates, so Negan shuts it down. Not by killing Daryl, but by killing someone completely innocent. Reminding the group of the consequences. Daryl is breaking with guilt. Rick stays dominant as well so Negan breaks him down and now Rick is completely in check... for now..
***** The saviors don't even like Negan. In the comics when Alexandria takes Negan hostage, the saviors didn't hesitate to replace him with Dwight. Once he was made the new leader, the saviors kept to themselves for the most part, to my understanding. Negan only has the psychological advantage over people. He's just one guy after all.
True, but in the TV show, I think he has more respect out of them. That moment when Dwight goes out to get the runaway, the runaway says "Some guys shows up with a bat and everyone follows him? He's just one guy". The Saviors were losing and starving. He showed up and made them strong. Fed them and supplied them. If someone tried to kill him in the TV show, if Rick rose his bat too high and tried to strike negan when he wasnt looking, a Savior would defend him because they don't want to go back to losing.
Jeremiah Kivi My point stands. They kill Negan, Saviors drop them all and Saviors win. I love Negan. They would defend him because he is carrying them through the apocalypse.
yes i thought the very same first time he came on. his smile is to say i am very happy with you not being happy. your happiness depends on me and my happiness has zero to do with you. be like negan and you will be happy to..this is what is going on with that smile. lots of nut case folks have this psychotic smile. never trust anyone who dont show the appropriate emotion for the situation. in contrast how you win over people is to show the same emotion as them this leads them to think bonds are present when they may or may not be.. hence smile and the whole world smiles cry and you cry alone...
T33K4Y It was already oroven that it is only a matter if time before a virus mutates and humanity is pushed to the vrink of extinction one way or another. Zombies or not.
Then turns his back to them, he arms them knowing they want to hurt him, then looks away. Ultimate power play, nothing says you don't scare me at all like that.
@@paytonwirtjes523 it also calls out their cowardice. Because that person knows they can't do it for one reason or another. But someone who simply doesn't care or have that fear would strike consequence be damned.
@@ryanwood6754 it's a mind game. About control. He gives them the chance to follow what they wanna do kill him, but then they think about what it means for the rest of the group. And decide instead to follow. He's forcing the choice to follow him, that specific mind game solidifies who is in control of the situation, he makes the target feel in control with a weapon, privacy, and edge against him, since his back is turned. To do him harm. But makes THEM decide to concede and follow instead. Sounds simple but the future implications are powerful. Everytime they wanna do him harm after they remember thier first choice
Negan is the best bad guy we have ever had. Like you hate him but you love him at the same time. And hes so good that you dont even want him to die. Lol anybody else agree.
I agree. Especially after Rick pulls the “a mans word is worth something” a minute before betraying people. And Negan actually has rules and some semblance of dedication to maintaining order, no matter how ruthless and violent.
The trouble is, Neegan leaves permanent scars on his victims- meaning they have a constant reminder of his cruelty every time they look in the mirror. In reality, a lot of people WOULD deem murdering him- even if it meant their own certain death- a worthwhile guttural response.
yea its a lawless world where everyone is in a very dark place. though there is credit to his charisma a lot of his survivability depended on him not getting stabbed in the back. edit: meanig - luck / plot armor
Yes but the reason he does this is, is that he wants you to think that if you oppose him your the odd man out and that’s what makes people so obedient of him
When you break a person, it is very rare for that person to react. Think of an abused child. It's the psychological scarring that gives the parent power. Doesn't matter how much they hate negan, he has broken them. Look at darrell
Yes but that’s part of what negan does if you mess up he doesn’t kill you, he kills someone close to you and makes you live knowing you killed that person. So people don’t risk uprisings because it’s not only their life that’s at risk
@@ALLmasked not entirely. I mean there are plenty of cults and countries ruled on this same fear where the people do nothing even when they outnumber them. Negan is followed by his most loyal of guards, has more weaponry and better health then those under him and is not afraid to kill. its not as black and white as "he scarred me therefore I will kill him". Look at Hitler and the SS. As bad as it was for Hitler during the final years he still had super loyal guards that would give their life for him even in an endless situation. There were even SS troops that when Hitler was dead still fought in his name.
@@nguyenthanhhai6725 You don't understand the definition of a villain. He is villain no matter if he killed more or less people than Rick. His whole character is pure evil villain.
Negan also takes his good ol' sweet time to say whatever it is that he has to say. He leaves lots of dead time between words and phrases to emphasize that he owns the "airspace", and to make others wait for him to finish, which is a form of submission in its own right.
He's such a genius, yet all three of his top guys turned against him, and that's how he lost the 'war' with Rick. That's probably closer to reality. In a real life situation. Negan wouldn't last a week because someone would kill him.
@@kshitijnigam6849 There were also plenty of other opportunities to kill him such as the time when he was in rick's house making freaking spaghetti. Carl could've easily killed him
This was a damn good video Charlie (you were a guest on my talk radio podcast program, "Upfront & Straightforward" in May 2013. www.blogtalkradio.com/modeone/2013/05/17/what-is-the-kickass-academy-how-can-it-help-single-men facebook.com/master.class.144/posts/1136448816474070 #Kudos
He explained that to gabriel in the truck. He unified a couple of gangs that were fighting each other in the region of the sanctuary. I dunno how he did it, probably with his persuasive methods. And I think that Simon used to be the leader of one of those gangs. Because when he tried to act like he was the boss, negan got mad and asked him if they were backsliding.
I always felt like Negan is a dog trainer, and he's treating everyone like that. punishing them when they do wrong, and giving them a treat when they do a cool trick. XD
yep.. i agree that its Rick's body language.. and style.. that he looks down even when he's being dominant.. and it also works well.. but the context is different.. negan tamed rick at that time.. also he was making him say thank you to himself.. clearly rick didn't wanted to say thank you to negan for stealing his food.. that's why he looked away.. because he had to.. he couldn't afford to make him angry.. that's why he looked up.. then away.. then down.. and said thankyou.. And negan appreciated that rick is scared of him.. by saying.. dont b ridiculous.. Thankk yoouu.. 😏
I also just realised that Negan noticed that instead of punishing Daryl directly for his actions, Negan kills one of his friends instead. This could be a way of showing any of the people trying to die as martyrs for the group that he is spontaneous and won't just punish them for their actions
That's exactly what he does. To make you regret your actions that caused the death of another. "Think about what happened, what didn't happen, and what could still happen." He's saying, "Bow to me or I'll kill your family one by one in front of you then let you live on to remember it." I hate Negan...
Nobody would/can move at that point . The legs will probably succumb to fear and its too heavy to even move . Hence why he can only muster his courage to maintain an eye contact and exert dominance in a matter of seconds .
You forgot the most important thing! He forced Rick to do something horrific (chop of his own son's arm) then at the last minute showed "mercy." This creates a sense of gratitude to Negan for not being MORE brutal.
Great job shaun, way to go. thank 4 puttin that out in the light. We had no idea he meant it literally. Wow, what a surprise. U want a big fat medal? reach into my pants bro, edi obviously meant it to be literal. 10/10 job pointing that out.
DonatIbraimi my thing with Rick is that he has no real personality on the show. Yea he's the leader and all that but when does he ever make us laugh? When does he do anything besides have that stone face on and lead the group? We hardly EVER see any other side to him yet somehow he's everyone's favorite character.
any one notice the fact that everyone who was killed in maggie family it had something to do with there head hershel got his head cut Beth got shot in the head and Glenn got his head crushed
Well that cop lady wasn't really a villain, she was just trying to keep order in the hospital and survive. She needed a reason for her cops not to go crazy, so she needed slaves for those people, giving the slaves protection, shelter and food. She wasn't really a villain, but more like just a shitty person.
Rick: Kills more than 30+ of his men out of assumptions Negan: Kills 4 of Ricks men as punishment Rick: Wants to kill Negan Negan: Wants to let Rick and his group live so Rick can scavenge for supplied and have peace. Negan is the reasonable one if you think about it.
"assumptions" you mean other groups telling Rick that Negan killed some of their men? "Have peace" your definition of peace is being forced to scavenge supplies for someone else?
@@callmeOZ96 Just because he killed their men doesn't mean that he was going to kill Rick's people as well. He killed their men because they fought back. Rick did a good thing killing 30 of Negan's men but when you think about it, it doesn't justify him. If it was someone else instead of Negan, they would've destroyed Rick's group. And he had the chance to do that, but he didn't. He gave them a chance to live under one circumstance.
This Negan would be a perfect apprentice, i can feel his anger! it gives him focus! makes him stronger! now Negan Strike them down with all your hate and your journey towards the Dark Side will be COMPLETE!!!
He was also the skilled fighter of the group. I mean Daryl is more a hunter, Rick is a leader. Abraham was a warrior. You don't want the warriors because they will fight and die for their leaders.
I think the difference between both "challenges" is: Abraham stood up to Negan as an equal. Both had calm and didn't hesitate for a second. But the problem is that Daryl showed courage in a dumb way. He acted too emotionally. Probably that "brave moment" was what kept him alive.
I think an important factor that you overlooked was his overall physically dominant presence. Judging by the way he towers over almost everyone on the show, I'd say he appears to be 6'3" - height is very important in social interaction and dominance.
But yeah that height is a cherry on top. But the bigger you are the easier to hit them with a bullet, also big people arebt the best at stealth. If he gets his hands or baseball bat on you though....
S7E1 Negan says "...and you can't work for me if you're dead, can you?" Later, he says "...you wind up on the spike and you work for me as a dead man." We thought he was oppressive, then we discover he is so giving that he has even figured out how to create jobs for the breathing impaired. Am I the only one who caught this?
Different scenarios bruh. Rick cant provide him "half his shit" if he and his group is dead. Daryl can "work" for Negan as a dead man by being chained to the outside gate and protecting their establishment as a walker.
Nick Venables a man and lady are riding in a train car to some place....the lady notices the man sneeze, take out his penis, wipe the tip and put it away.....a little time later he sneezes again and pulls out his penis, wipes the tip, and puts it away...after a third time the lady asks what is his deal...he explains, " I have a rare disease where every time I sneeze I have an orgasm" the lady says "that's terrible what are you taking for it?" to which the man replies.."Pepper..."
Man you are really clever and observant, i do know quite a few things about body language and psychology but how you unite things that people never though could be related its amazing and the way you make people understand it, we need you to make a few books and start doing speeches around the states cause believe me everyone will be listening to you talk cause we are all humans and we will all related no matter social status or racial b.s.
Just because its a youtube video does not make it any less valid or damage its intelligence or argument. In fact many 'real' psychologists have been on youtube before.
klayten Jensen A lot of people take these thing for granted and don't really notice them or give them much though. At least with this video its subtle touches can be appreciated.
Why has Rick been such a successful leader up til now? By successful leader, I mean that he doesn't always seem to take charge, but the people around him always decide to put him in that position.
at one point Rick told his group its not a voting group anymore and from there on he will make the decisions, so i dont think everyone gave him the leadership role. some are forced to follow him if they want to stay with the group.
He started out in a position of authority as a police officer back in season one, where some of the conflict was the pseudo power struggle he underwent with Shane, this came to a head in Season 2. After this they had to abandon the farm, during which he openly claimed that 'this isn't a democracy anymore', and you can either get on board or hit the road. This is important because everyone immediately chooses to stay, it may not be a real choice, but psychologically, everyone has decided to follow him rather than face the threat alone, they are choosing safety over what the y might consider the right decision. Anyway, after that Rick has always been the key leader within his own group, and his own group has always been dominant in the prison and elsewhere, right up until Alexandria. At Alexandria their leader was murdered and Rick once again offered security and safety to the group, though in a less dominant fashion than before. Remember that their group were specifically recruited for being knowledgeable of the outside world, and many in Alexandria naturally deferred to their greater experience. TLDR- Rick is a natural authority figure through his job and personality, and this has been coupled with a lack of other authority figures to outright challenge him.
I hear you guys saying he proclaimed his role as leader and if they didn't like it they could leave which is true. But that was a very in the moment sitution. There are lots of moments throughout the rest of the seasons, that show it isn't about individual survival but that there is a great respect and appreciation for Rick and the choices he has made. Rick has also gone back on his word of " this isn't a democracy anymore " by continually listing to the advice of his group even when the group as a whole goes against his judgement
I don't agree with all your points, especially the cult of personality thing. Negan builds his power from fear, not admiration or fanatisme. The saviors knews the consequences they'll have to face if they didn't follow the orders, even miles away from him. Of course there is going to be a percentage of criminals that will follow him for his strong and violent leading figure, but not in a obsessive cultic way. So I don't find the Manson comparison relevant in this case. At some point leaders like Negan get took down.
People would call themselves negan even without negan around. Like at the satellite station Or when negan js with Gabriel after rick attacks Sanctuary. They respect negan. Even when negan is locked in jail people miss him. I think ur kinda a moron
To be fair there was a sense of admiration. Think about that Brandon kid who was obsessed with the Savior legacy and Negan, or Jed and his rogues. Negan left a lasting impression on these people and they also did benefit in a way from his endeavors. Yeah it was all fear to some like Dwight, but the majority were loyal followers.
baashdi hobstocking lol, that was weird. Not sure what to say to that... are you particularly sensitive to "who's getting thumbs?" lol. Would you like it if I thumbed up your comment?
4:50 "he gives his closest generals access to his wives" but the thing here is... The particular wife he is referring to is actually the REAL wife of Dwight, Sherry... Dwight got punished by having his face ironed after it is implied that he tried to help her escape from Negan who ended up forcibly marrying her. So in truth, NO Negan does NOT offer access to his "wives" to his closest generals, at least not what he's implying here. He's saying, "hey do you want to have some fun with your former wife?"
Negan didn't forcibly marry her, she chose him over her husband, and then went back to her husband, and then back to Negan. Negan is very much against rape. If you are one of his wives, you don't have to work, so women line up. Dwights wife left him for Negan, and then went back. Negan doesn't punish a wife for cheating on him, but if he cheats and comes back, he irons the face of the one she cheated with. So she knowingly had Dwights face ironed so that she could go back to Negan and not have to work. It's how he turns people against each other.
MisterSinister What? She (or was it Negan?) clearly said that Negan was going to kill Dwight but she offered herself to become Negan's wife in exchange, Negan will spare Dwight. But he ironed Dwight's face as a "lighter" punishment than death. Where did you get the rest of the information?
It's also the same with customer service bosses. They will only talk to you when you did something wrong but never speak to you when you went the extra mile.
The moment of realisation that we are witnessing a complete perfect villian is when you get a feeling that the villian's pov is also somewhat correct even if he does extremely nasty stuff .
Charisma on Command, you are amazing and your channel has been helping me for sometime. Negan is an interesting character to talk about, but there isn't a fictional charater more charismatic than Hannibal from NBC. A video about that guy would be perfect.
Imagine if Negan become president of USA. While Negan speaking to people he will say Negan: who hell are you?? US people: we are Negan! Negan: you God damn right! 😂😂
believe me in indonesia that puppet president using this methods to control people. his puppeteer brainwashed like half the country to identify their self as "jokowi" the puppet president's name. they would proudly ask "who are we ?" and the people would blindly answer, "i am jokowi" thus demonized the opposition as non-jokowi and the enemy of the president and the country. oh I do hope that in the 17th april 2019 election, the opposition win. that puppet president needs to go down.
Ulaş Aldağ Yea, that's a WHOLE different subject. But put Rick and Negan alone in one room barehanded and I highly doubt Negan will have the same effect on Rick. But yea, Negan had to have certain traits to gain that spot amongst his group, but we know nothing of what that was like since we havent actually seen what he was like at the begining of the outbreak (yes comics are out there, but the show is slightly different sometimes). Rick went from a good guy cop to a complete savage. With Negan we will see the progression just backwards
GPMM213 That was only because his group were still on their knees surrounded by all thoes Saviors and if he killed Negan then all of his people would have been killed.
Dakota Vanleer Exactly. that was the whole point of taking Rick away ALONE. it was to break him even more and show him 'look, were alone and you still wont and cant do shit' but we know theres no way he can because if he does everyone including Rick is dead
@@holdentudiks9390 I thought he was talking bout that scene in Alexandria where Negan was about to kill Carl with Lucille, and he muttered "you asked me to" when Shiva ate someone and the battle happened, so my bad
5:37: "you need to have clear consequences" that's so true and gives this video a solid scientific point of view. Well done! In university I also learned about leadership in psychology.
The part about Negan that always drove me nuts was how he would say “These are the rules. Follow them, and all will be good”. Then the rules would change and leave everyone else trying to stay in line. The Saviors want half and half is whatever Negan or his underlings decide that day. That unpredictability would make it nigh impossible for me to live under his rule.
Thats what they meant by him slowly upping the game. He luls you into false sense of understanding and rules then slowly adapts them. But you will be so crushed by it all that eventually you just kinda give up and become a slave. Thats the comparison to the manson family. They knew it was wrong and bad but they still did it and they don't know why.
Think of it like this. They never really took much from lets say The Kingdom, but treated Rick's group very differently probably because of what they did to one of the Savior's outposts.
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Exactly. The wife that he was referring to, which is even worse, used to be Dwight's wife. He did this to remind him of his helplessness while appearing to be generous, yet knowing it would be too painful for him to accept, but he was very curious as to how he would refuse. It was the biggest mind game that he played because even the clear choice wasn't a clear choice.
I always thought that he was a PE teacher before the apocalypse, because all the ones I ever had would definitely turn into psychopaths if zombies took over the world. I'd love to see a film or spin-off of Negan before the gang meets him.
I've been watching movies and TV shows for a long time, about 40+ years, and aside from real life monsters portrayed in movies like Hitler, the Nazi's and serial killers, Negan is easily the most unapologetically psychotic, unremorseful, intimidating, unpredictable and charismatic fictional villain that I've seen in, well, anything. That's quite an achievement. Like everyone else, seeing him take out Glenn and Abraham in such stomach-turning fashion sickened me, but I pressed on and I'm glad I did, Jeffrey Dean Morgan is astounding in this role.
It's also about corruption: First, you get asked about something small, that doesn't upset your morals, when complying, then you do something as the lesser evil and then bit by bit you abandon your moral compass and then you feel evil yourself, or filthy like someone selling himself.
Then you give your wife to someone who treats you like shit, allow him to defile her in the most disgusting and degenerate ways, and brand your face with an iron if you don't like it. Yeah, that's realistic and believable. 100% Buy that as a real character. Not someone who would TRY to do something like that and then have his throat slit by all of his own people immediately.
They will take abuse, yes. They want to be led. Yes. But they won't follow someone who ONLY gives abuse. At best they get ignored, while going without basic human needs. Someone like Saddam Hussein, for instance, managed to stay in power because he had his royal guard, who were treated like kings. His close advisers and followers all lived like royalty. Thus the people were terrified of this huge group of people who were totally loyal. Who does Negan have who he treats well? Nobody. Not a single person. At best he will not brand them with an iron, he will just have nothing to do with them at all. At worst they get the iron, or killed outright. There is living in fear, and then there is living in outright terror of doing or saying anything, and not being able to eat, sleep, wash or even have a wife that won't be disgustingly raped and mauled every day and night. And that's not a few people in that situation, it is every single one of his "followers". Just would not happen. Why do you think they changed the Governor? Because they knew that a ridiculously over the top maniac leader like this is fine in a comic book (well not fine, but you can get away with it), but it won't translate to the screen. That's why the Governor is so much better in the tv version, because he is a completely believable human being. Negan is a comic book supervillain in the mold of doctor doom.
w0bbl3r If you get blackmailed to spy on your boss, they will probably ask for harmless Intel first so that you feel relieved at first. Only then they ask what they really want, but then you have allready betrayed your boss.... It is a similar story when you try to bribe someone or try to get someone involved in crimes. It's a pretty universal tactic.
Yeah I don't think Negan has the ability to affect people without violence. The implicit threat of violence was behind literally every "power move" he made. You can't honestly separate Negan's violence from his "dominance."
Yeah a lot of this requires some sort of "hold" on the person and hinges on intimidation. A lot of other more micro behaviors from his body language and the way he talks are pretty substantial as well.
Actually, he created that place with power so people stayed at that place and they wanted to be like him because he’s a understandable guy once you get to know him, so he made deals with communities and that’s how it works :D
He’s so evil, people may survive in result of his system but his system still circles round to benefit him and his people only, he just uses people, I think he’d be a lot more successful getting his people to work with him out of respect and not fear. I can’t help but like him though he’s just too cool 😂
But with respect. That's when some people start to betray other people and then craziness happens. With fear, everyone will be terrified into what Negan wants. Respect will take longer as well since they don't really know him when you first meet him.
@@captaincosy Fear is easy. It might work at first but when the opportunity presents itself, people are more than likely to betray you. With respect and love people are less likely to betray. There's no guarantee betrayal won't happen but it'll happen a lot slower with love, respect and loyalty than with fear.
@@deadlysword1000 the problem is with being a leader fear gets you a bullet in the back of the head & love and respect gets you seen as weak and stepped on. I dont know why anybody would want to be a leader in the 1st place. It rarely ever lasts.
I’ve always wondered what would’ve happened if the governor was alive in this season and went up against negan. It would’ve been cool to see a war between both of there groups or all 3. Alexandria, Saviours, Woodbury.
In the lineup situation The Governor would be who Negan kills because (like Abraham) he is the biggest threat and would not have backed down. If the Governor came across Negan he would kill him immediately. The Gov wasn't fussed about breaking people and controlling them like Negan. He would see resources and kill everyone until he had them. The interesting thing would be to see them have an equal one on one chat. Both of them were extremely charismatic, there would definitely be some killer lines there.
Not sure if you've ever looked at Deadwood, but, perhaps more than any other main character from the TV Golden Age, Al Swearaengen has an almost unspeakable ability to simultaneously cajole, charm, and outwit people. I would love to hear your thoughts on him. ALso, it's a hell of a show.
negan kills abe on tv cause A) his character arc was over B) the way abes dressed and his demeanor told negan thats the backbone of this group and most likely to revolt against the saviors , the saviors dont compare to the whisperers !
"We need to understand, right off the bat" THAT PUN, NOW I GOT IT HAHAHA Also thought it was hilarious being close to that guy's age and also being called Rory. Anyway
"You're kinda close to me, you know that, right?"
*puts hand on shoulder with big charismatic smile* "That's the point"
"What's the point?"
@@TarkinRocher
"I'll do you one better: Why is the point?" (с)
@@sinistertwister686 i will do you an even better, who is the point
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I shall do thou an even better oneth
Thoust is pointeth
@@fatmandirtball4746 *pulls the reverse card*
0:00 - 3:21 So the impression I get after watching this segment is, Negan didn't choose Abraham at random; he chose him because Abraham's body language (by straightening up while Negan stood in front of him, while everyone backed down) made him a threat to Negan. If Negan _hadn't_ killed Abraham, but _had_ broken Rick, then Abraham would've likely taken over the group and led an attack against Negan in the future.
Frruunkis ! yup. I thought that when it first aired. Abraham puffed his chest out.. dead in the eye look..
I was thinking this too, who else is a bigger threat besides ole Abe? Dudes a Lion!
SynValorum Negan saw a physical threat by that look. Like ’if we make it out of this I'll cut ur sack open..’ he had Carl to mindfuck Rick with. Maggie to Glenn, but that Abraham kill was almost a I'm scared of this guy if we ever get Alone lol. Fuckin loved Abe..
yeah that's a primitive thing. It's sorta like two males contesting each other in the wild, only in this case Abraham probably knew he was screwed and just wanted to go with his head held high, being a tough soldier and all. And Negan just took offense to it.
Norcal well said
"You need to understand, right off the bat" one of the greatest lines in tv history LOL
Tv
I liked " Lucille's thirsty, she's a vampire bat"
I love puns.
@@kingleo1128 after adding Negan to Tekken 7, this line was actually used as one of his winning phrases
Don't forget to put LOL at the end of your sentence
The thing is that rick is a better leader due to him actually having compassion and caring about his people and him seeing them as equal to him. There's a respect there that negan will not, and does not give.
Ricks mercy prevails over his wrath ... 😉
This video isn't about who's a better leader, it's about dominance and how to stand up to people
@@TheSlicktyler so? It's a public comment section everyone can comment whatever they like
@@vynsimp6690 sensitive.
@@vynsimp6690 And other people can reply to those comments. Whatever they like.
Also, you forgot to bring up how he psychologically controls his victims. First example we see of this is when he leaves his axe on the table behind him. Right in front of Rick, just a grab and attack away from killing Negan while his back was turned. But when he actually tried and Negan turned around and told him to drop it, he completely changed the way Rick now thinks.
Now, if Rick ever gets the opportunity to stab him in the back, he'll think twice. He'll assume Negan is always one step ahead of him and can't be caught by suprise, so Rick won't ever attempt that again. First time we see Negan taking advantage of that is when he let's Rick hold his bat the whole episode, while he steals all of their weapons and half of their possessions.
Negan just handed Rick the ability to end it right then and there by giving him lucille, but he knows he won't lift a finger because he doesn't just physically control him now, he psychologically controls him. Rick believes that Negan can't be snuck up on, and now he'll be too afraid to ever try to. Even if he knows of a plan that would work, he will always second guess himself and never actually attempt to execute it because Negan has the upper hand psychologically.
That makes sense but I more thought it was because, if Rick did anything like that, the Saviors would drop them several times over and they'd just get wiped out. But Negan definitely is a very intelligent person. Notice in 701 how everyone is lounged over but Abraham is very stern. Negan takes out the dominant member of the group, Daryl retaliates, so Negan shuts it down. Not by killing Daryl, but by killing someone completely innocent. Reminding the group of the consequences. Daryl is breaking with guilt. Rick stays dominant as well so Negan breaks him down and now Rick is completely in check... for now..
***** The saviors don't even like Negan. In the comics when Alexandria takes Negan hostage, the saviors didn't hesitate to replace him with Dwight. Once he was made the new leader, the saviors kept to themselves for the most part, to my understanding. Negan only has the psychological advantage over people. He's just one guy after all.
True, but in the TV show, I think he has more respect out of them. That moment when Dwight goes out to get the runaway, the runaway says "Some guys shows up with a bat and everyone follows him? He's just one guy". The Saviors were losing and starving. He showed up and made them strong. Fed them and supplied them. If someone tried to kill him in the TV show, if Rick rose his bat too high and tried to strike negan when he wasnt looking, a Savior would defend him because they don't want to go back to losing.
Some guy*
Jeremiah Kivi My point stands. They kill Negan, Saviors drop them all and Saviors win. I love Negan. They would defend him because he is carrying them through the apocalypse.
I wanna know who Negan's post-apocalyptic dentist is.
It's probably Negan. Or that one guy, think his name is Negan.
SandBox H3ro na dude it's not him, it's Negan.
Piers Morgan no not negan, he is hopeless but Negan is really accurate dentist
Guys you're all getting it wrong, it was the girl down the road, Negan.
yes i thought the very same first time he came on. his smile is to say i am very happy with you not being happy. your happiness depends on me and my happiness has zero to do with you. be like negan and you will be happy to..this is what is going on with that smile. lots of nut case folks have this psychotic smile. never trust anyone who dont show the appropriate emotion for the situation. in contrast how you win over people is to show the same emotion as them this leads them to think bonds are present when they may or may not be.. hence smile and the whole world smiles cry and you cry alone...
Great, now when the apocalypse happens we're gonna get thousands of wannabe Negans
Horus and they're all going to meet a real negan eventually.
Naruto Izumi That is exactly what I was about to say. One "True" Negan will do it better than the rest.
"when" lol
T33K4Y It was already oroven that it is only a matter if time before a virus mutates and humanity is pushed to the vrink of extinction one way or another. Zombies or not.
Legendary Niwatori ok.
I like that Negan also tells others to hold his bat multiple times. He’s making people who he knows hate him hold his most prized weapon.
Then turns his back to them, he arms them knowing they want to hurt him, then looks away. Ultimate power play, nothing says you don't scare me at all like that.
@@paytonwirtjes523 it also calls out their cowardice. Because that person knows they can't do it for one reason or another. But someone who simply doesn't care or have that fear would strike consequence be damned.
@@ryanwood6754 it's a mind game. About control. He gives them the chance to follow what they wanna do kill him, but then they think about what it means for the rest of the group. And decide instead to follow. He's forcing the choice to follow him, that specific mind game solidifies who is in control of the situation, he makes the target feel in control with a weapon, privacy, and edge against him, since his back is turned. To do him harm. But makes THEM decide to concede and follow instead.
Sounds simple but the future implications are powerful. Everytime they wanna do him harm after they remember thier first choice
Negan is the best bad guy we have ever had. Like you hate him but you love him at the same time. And hes so good that you dont even want him to die. Lol anybody else agree.
No.
I agree. Especially after Rick pulls the “a mans word is worth something” a minute before betraying people. And Negan actually has rules and some semblance of dedication to maintaining order, no matter how ruthless and violent.
Only love here
It's like Klaus Mikaelson from the show The Originals. In The Vampire Diaries he comes off as a villian, however he starts to grow on you over time.
I don't even lovve Rick so you are really reaching deep into my anus if you are planning to find even a hint of love for Negan anywhere.
3:58 "said we need to understand right off the bat" lol pun intended?
Stole my comment🖕
same thought
"Off the bat" were arc words throughout season 6 if you listen closely.
Yes indeed
*It was intended.*
The trouble is, Neegan leaves permanent scars on his victims- meaning they have a constant reminder of his cruelty every time they look in the mirror. In reality, a lot of people WOULD deem murdering him- even if it meant their own certain death- a worthwhile guttural response.
yea its a lawless world where everyone is in a very dark place. though there is credit to his charisma a lot of his survivability depended on him not getting stabbed in the back. edit: meanig - luck / plot armor
Yes but the reason he does this is, is that he wants you to think that if you oppose him your the odd man out and that’s what makes people so obedient of him
When you break a person, it is very rare for that person to react.
Think of an abused child. It's the psychological scarring that gives the parent power.
Doesn't matter how much they hate negan, he has broken them. Look at darrell
Yes but that’s part of what negan does if you mess up he doesn’t kill you, he kills someone close to you and makes you live knowing you killed that person. So people don’t risk uprisings because it’s not only their life that’s at risk
@@ALLmasked not entirely. I mean there are plenty of cults and countries ruled on this same fear where the people do nothing even when they outnumber them. Negan is followed by his most loyal of guards, has more weaponry and better health then those under him and is not afraid to kill. its not as black and white as "he scarred me therefore I will kill him". Look at Hitler and the SS. As bad as it was for Hitler during the final years he still had super loyal guards that would give their life for him even in an endless situation. There were even SS troops that when Hitler was dead still fought in his name.
That room Negan offered daryl looks so good. Literally even in this world, I would have cracked for a room like that. It’s amazing.
Same
Negan is one of my favorite villains in the walking dead hes so likable but ruthless.
Agreed. Also he is my favorite villain out of almost everyone. He is charismatic, ruthless, tough, and he has a vampire bat.
He IS not a VILLIAN since no one is good.
@@nguyenthanhhai6725 You don't understand the definition of a villain. He is villain no matter if he killed more or less people than Rick. His whole character is pure evil villain.
So......Who are you?
Mine too
Negan also takes his good ol' sweet time to say whatever it is that he has to say. He leaves lots of dead time between words and phrases to emphasize that he owns the "airspace", and to make others wait for him to finish, which is a form of submission in its own right.
Good observation!
I think he put 10 points into charisma and got the intimidation perk to max then his cloths give him +5 charisma.
probably, yeah.
I see what you did there
Lucille: +30% critical strike rating, 100% chance on casting fear on your enemys after a killing blow
negan's ability: getting hit after a kill,you can choose a 2nd target and deliver a 1 hit kill
The Irish farmer :) he then got the bloody mess perk
He's such a genius, yet all three of his top guys turned against him, and that's how he lost the 'war' with Rick.
That's probably closer to reality. In a real life situation. Negan wouldn't last a week because someone would kill him.
Yea he wouldn't last a week because in real life someone has got to have better aim then the people in the show.
@@imranzakhaev152 yeah rosita would have killed him and others saviors woudn['t even mind bcoz no one likes him anyways
@@kshitijnigam6849 There were also plenty of other opportunities to kill him such as the time when he was in rick's house making freaking spaghetti. Carl could've easily killed him
That’s why Rick is superior
And yet, we have Kim Jong un, Hitler, stallin, they Lasted very long. I think is similar.
That shit was deep. Very observant.
Happy to share :-)
This was a damn good video Charlie (you were a guest on my talk radio podcast program, "Upfront & Straightforward" in May 2013. www.blogtalkradio.com/modeone/2013/05/17/what-is-the-kickass-academy-how-can-it-help-single-men facebook.com/master.class.144/posts/1136448816474070 #Kudos
Charisma on Command Thank you, Bro.
Power causes the things that destroy it.
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They can make an entire spinoff show on how Negan got so much power and people.
He explained that to gabriel in the truck. He unified a couple of gangs that were fighting each other in the region of the sanctuary. I dunno how he did it, probably with his persuasive methods. And I think that Simon used to be the leader of one of those gangs. Because when he tried to act like he was the boss, negan got mad and asked him if they were backsliding.
I always felt like Negan is a dog trainer, and he's treating everyone like that.
punishing them when they do wrong, and giving them a treat when they do a cool trick. XD
Ahmed Ghazwan No he used to be a coach.
Shiku Bah Well that's his comic backstory.
I'm just talking about his behavior.
Ahmed Ghazwan . He Is A Highschool Coach Idiot
EpicGamerHD// Minecraft and More! Says the guy who can't read!
Ahmed Ghazwan but i cant teach my Dog to say he is negan
Not fair to use rick as a "Looking away" example. He ALWAYS looks down and around toward everybody.
xD
yep.. i agree that its Rick's body language.. and style.. that he looks down even when he's being dominant.. and it also works well..
but the context is different..
negan tamed rick at that time.. also he was making him say thank you to himself..
clearly rick didn't wanted to say thank you to negan for stealing his food.. that's why he looked away.. because he had to.. he couldn't afford to make him angry..
that's why he looked up.. then away.. then down..
and said thankyou..
And negan appreciated that rick is scared of him.. by saying.. dont b ridiculous.. Thankk yoouu.. 😏
@@adityapathak6648 I made that comment a year ago
Unless he starts rubbing his face
Yeah but everyone else does that around him too.
I also just realised that Negan noticed that instead of punishing Daryl directly for his actions, Negan kills one of his friends instead. This could be a way of showing any of the people trying to die as martyrs for the group that he is spontaneous and won't just punish them for their actions
Exactly :-)
meds vannie it's a fear tactic, so his victims understand that if they fuck up it may be them or it could be one of their friends.
meds vannie one word Lucille
PLEASE PLEASE do a video on Machiavellianism and the Prince.
That's exactly what he does. To make you regret your actions that caused the death of another. "Think about what happened, what didn't happen, and what could still happen." He's saying, "Bow to me or I'll kill your family one by one in front of you then let you live on to remember it." I hate Negan...
I wish they'd do a flashback for Negan's life before the virus came, like they did with Michonne, and some of the other characters.
Five Dee I know this is a old post but in the comics, Negan was a p.e. teacher
Well in comics they didn't start going into his backstory till well after the Savior war
Aaron Scott True
Go read “Here’s Negan”
I hope they give him a show
The balls on the guy that didnt flinch while a silverback charged at him!
DVS1 USMC if he runs off he’s getting torn apart so he has no choice lmao
DVS1 Chicago - That's why he didn't move, he's got giant balls of steel. He couldn't.
Nobody would/can move at that point . The legs will probably succumb to fear and its too heavy to even move . Hence why he can only muster his courage to maintain an eye contact and exert dominance in a matter of seconds .
The best line from him, really anywhere, was "no one ever thinks their the evil one". That applies to any history, fictional or not.
Imagine if negan's breath stinks and he just keeps going close to everybody's face and talks
With that perfect teeth? I think he also monopolized the last of oral hygiene stuff.
Maybe thats the reason it looks like rick is crying when negan talks to him
Never seen anyone brush their teeth under the zombie apocalypse
Able Tv
If that’s the case Negan is truly evil ......Some men just want to see the world burn
Then that'll make him a teacher too!😂😂😂😂😂😂
You forgot the most important thing! He forced Rick to do something horrific (chop of his own son's arm) then at the last minute showed "mercy." This creates a sense of gratitude to Negan for not being MORE brutal.
Good point :)
not it at all. He just couldn't hurt that source leverage over rick; this way he can use it to be perpetually in the back of rick's mind
"Negan is building a cult of personality"
*CM Punk's theme song begins to play in my head*
OOOHHH ME TOOO HAHAHAHAHA RIGHT OFF THE BAT
We're on East Street
lol me 2
Soo straight edge
I like it how you directly use an individual personality to break down your point which makes it more relatable.
You forgot a trait
Him being a better parent then Lori Grimes
Savage truth
No doubt...she was horrible to!
*than**
why was lori a bad parent?
Don't forget he made Carl spaghetti, those kind of people are the best
Negan knows, how to make a smashing entry.
Literally
Great job shaun, way to go. thank 4 puttin that out in the light. We had no idea he meant it literally. Wow, what a surprise. U want a big fat medal? reach into my pants bro, edi obviously meant it to be literal. 10/10 job pointing that out.
MrSir CumsAlot Alright dude, don't get a boner
MrSir CumsAlot Anyway what even is that English? "Thank 4 puttin that out in the light" 😂
MrSir CumsAlot man it's lucky he did cause before i read his literally comment i had no idea what the post meant!
good. now give me half your stuff.
negan Ahh there he is!
Hello daddy
omg
You should've said Give me half your shit. That's what Negan would say.
Mr Pink You're gonna be pretty disappointed when they keep him alive in prison in Alexandria, then
I love him so much, best character in this show. Badass, funny, inteligent and handsome af.
unlike you
@@lezistik3453 Damn bro you got him gooooood
😐
..Now Fat is joe is dead Skinny joe is just gonna well Joe"
@@lezistik3453 unnecessary
DO ONE ABOUT RICK!
it would be awesome
Yes.
DonatIbraimi my thing with Rick is that he has no real personality on the show. Yea he's the leader and all that but when does he ever make us laugh? When does he do anything besides have that stone face on and lead the group? We hardly EVER see any other side to him yet somehow he's everyone's favorite character.
PeeJay Torres seriously? Nobody has changed more than him
PeeJay Torres he has done so much that's why everyone likes him, I think you just don't like him
Jeffrey did a damn amazing job at playing Negan
any one notice the fact that everyone who was killed in maggie family it had something to do with there head hershel got his head cut Beth got shot in the head and Glenn got his head crushed
that scene with glenn was fucked
and killed by the main villain
Well that cop lady wasn't really a villain, she was just trying to keep order in the hospital and survive. She needed a reason for her cops not to go crazy, so she needed slaves for those people, giving the slaves protection, shelter and food. She wasn't really a villain, but more like just a shitty person.
KARMAAA her name was don
Thaddeus Sampsel expect don
He said we need to understand *right off the bat*
Rick: Kills more than 30+ of his men out of assumptions
Negan: Kills 4 of Ricks men as punishment
Rick: Wants to kill Negan
Negan: Wants to let Rick and his group live so Rick can scavenge for supplied and have peace.
Negan is the reasonable one if you think about it.
"assumptions" you mean other groups telling Rick that Negan killed some of their men? "Have peace" your definition of peace is being forced to scavenge supplies for someone else?
Yeah because enslaving them was just okay. .
@@parkerjeans5777 yeah agreed, rick is actually a pretty reasonable person but he needed to kill negan because negan is *was* a big threat to them.
Totally not the FBI no actually it’s more messed up on Negans part that he doesn’t care that his men died
@@callmeOZ96 Just because he killed their men doesn't mean that he was going to kill Rick's people as well. He killed their men because they fought back. Rick did a good thing killing 30 of Negan's men but when you think about it, it doesn't justify him. If it was someone else instead of Negan, they would've destroyed Rick's group. And he had the chance to do that, but he didn't. He gave them a chance to live under one circumstance.
4:57 I don't think Negan was actually offering Dwight a night with sherry, I think it was a test. Great video!
Oh it definitely was.
Oh totally a trick offer 😂
This Negan would be a perfect apprentice, i can feel his anger! it gives him focus! makes him stronger! now Negan Strike them down with all your hate and your journey towards the Dark Side will be COMPLETE!!!
Do it.
hey! it's the senate!
Empoorer, Negan is too focused to be that dark, but you could try the gov.
I shouldn't its not the savior way
rewatching the s6 finale made me realize why negan picked abraham, he was the only one who stood tall and stared him down
He was also the skilled fighter of the group. I mean Daryl is more a hunter, Rick is a leader. Abraham was a warrior. You don't want the warriors because they will fight and die for their leaders.
Ha ha I get it: "He beat him to death; said we needed to understand, right off the BAT"!
After Heath ledger as the joker jdm was as negan was my most fvrt badass characters
And RDJ as Iron Man
I would like to add Thomas Shelby from peaky blinders as well.
Right!
@@ursyedis never seen it. It's on Netflix but still haven't watched it
Na. Merle is THE GOAT
Thats why he chose Abe, because he noticed that he was basicly challenging him.
JoeAXE Cleave Why didn't he go for Daryl?
To break him further, he would be made a martyr if he killed him. Watch 6x16 again, Abe wasn't having any of it.
I think the difference between both "challenges" is: Abraham stood up to Negan as an equal. Both had calm and didn't hesitate for a second. But the problem is that Daryl showed courage in a dumb way. He acted too emotionally. Probably that "brave moment" was what kept him alive.
He was injured, slouched over and clearly looked weak, while Abe was standing tall and staring him down
Negan didn't choose Abraham,it was random
How evil he might have been in previous seasons, he's always cheerful which is a trait that has kind of helped me as of late.
I love Negan, but damn, still hurts to see him kill Glenn
May Bee im glad he died
no one gives a fuck about the comics, only people with an obsession with the show
I actually read the comics I am just behind like 5 volumes orso lmao
***** good for you, mate.
I was having a blast when he was playing with glenn
I think an important factor that you overlooked was his overall physically dominant presence. Judging by the way he towers over almost everyone on the show, I'd say he appears to be 6'3" - height is very important in social interaction and dominance.
6'1", but yeah
There goes my goals of wanting to be intimidating
@@damonnutting3529 Same, 5'9 :(
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the fight in the dog. You can always be intimidating if you stoke that fire in your heart high enough 🔥
But yeah that height is a cherry on top. But the bigger you are the easier to hit them with a bullet, also big people arebt the best at stealth. If he gets his hands or baseball bat on you though....
Am i the only one that actually likes Negan the most? #TeamNegan
Ser Twenty of House Goodmen nope
Ser Twenty of House Goodmen how can you like negan he's a douche
Heisenberg He's badass, funny and awesome. To be honest i didn't even care he killed Glenn and Abe, i still like him the most.
I like him too x
You like Negan because you're a sociopath/psychopath.I do find him to be pretty funny though.
What makes Negan a perfect Negan is his hip movement, and noone can make it perfect that much like Negan.
S7E1 Negan says "...and you can't work for me if you're dead, can you?"
Later, he says "...you wind up on the spike and you work for me as a dead man."
We thought he was oppressive, then we discover he is so giving that he has even figured out how to create jobs for the breathing impaired. Am I the only one who caught this?
Different scenarios bruh. Rick cant provide him "half his shit" if he and his group is dead. Daryl can "work" for Negan as a dead man by being chained to the outside gate and protecting their establishment as a walker.
MrSir CumsAlot it's a joke. bruh.
PS - I also cum a lot. In fact, I just did. Cheers!
Nick Venables a man and lady are riding in a train car to some place....the lady notices the man sneeze, take out his penis, wipe the tip and put it away.....a little time later he sneezes again and pulls out his penis, wipes the tip, and puts it away...after a third time the lady asks what is his deal...he explains, " I have a rare disease where every time I sneeze I have an orgasm" the lady says "that's terrible what are you taking for it?" to which the man replies.."Pepper..."
no it wasn't lol
Nick Venables "Breathing impaired" ahaha. I like you
Man you are really clever and observant, i do know quite a few things about body language and psychology but how you unite things that people never though could be related its amazing and the way you make people understand it, we need you to make a few books and start doing speeches around the states cause believe me everyone will be listening to you talk cause we are all humans and we will all related no matter social status or racial b.s.
If I remember correctly he already has written a few books on the subject of charisma and social skills.
Ahy.p.s
there are so many real psychologists out there you just have to look, this is just a UA-cam video.
Just because its a youtube video does not make it any less valid or damage its intelligence or argument. In fact many 'real' psychologists have been on youtube before.
It doesn't take someone overly intelligent to see these things. I thought a lot of this was common sense.
klayten Jensen A lot of people take these thing for granted and don't really notice them or give them much though. At least with this video its subtle touches can be appreciated.
Why has Rick been such a successful leader up til now? By successful leader, I mean that he doesn't always seem to take charge, but the people around him always decide to put him in that position.
Richy Rich he is practically the main character ... its supposed to be like that lol
at one point Rick told his group its not a voting group anymore and from there on he will make the decisions, so i dont think everyone gave him the leadership role. some are forced to follow him if they want to stay with the group.
He started out in a position of authority as a police officer back in season one, where some of the conflict was the pseudo power struggle he underwent with Shane, this came to a head in Season 2. After this they had to abandon the farm, during which he openly claimed that 'this isn't a democracy anymore', and you can either get on board or hit the road. This is important because everyone immediately chooses to stay, it may not be a real choice, but psychologically, everyone has decided to follow him rather than face the threat alone, they are choosing safety over what the y might consider the right decision. Anyway, after that Rick has always been the key leader within his own group, and his own group has always been dominant in the prison and elsewhere, right up until Alexandria. At Alexandria their leader was murdered and Rick once again offered security and safety to the group, though in a less dominant fashion than before. Remember that their group were specifically recruited for being knowledgeable of the outside world, and many in Alexandria naturally deferred to their greater experience.
TLDR- Rick is a natural authority figure through his job and personality, and this has been coupled with a lack of other authority figures to outright challenge him.
I hear you guys saying he proclaimed his role as leader and if they didn't like it they could leave which is true. But that was a very in the moment sitution. There are lots of moments throughout the rest of the seasons, that show it isn't about individual survival but that there is a great respect and appreciation for Rick and the choices he has made. Rick has also gone back on his word of " this isn't a democracy anymore " by continually listing to the advice of his group even when the group as a whole goes against his judgement
I think Rick's probably a better leaders but Negan is just more ruthless and powerful
I don't agree with all your points, especially the cult of personality thing.
Negan builds his power from fear, not admiration or fanatisme. The saviors knews the consequences they'll have to face if they didn't follow the orders, even miles away from him. Of course there is going to be a percentage of criminals that will follow him for his strong and violent leading figure, but not in a obsessive cultic way. So I don't find the Manson comparison relevant in this case.
At some point leaders like Negan get took down.
People would call themselves negan even without negan around. Like at the satellite station
Or when negan js with Gabriel after rick attacks Sanctuary. They respect negan. Even when negan is locked in jail people miss him. I think ur kinda a moron
To be fair there was a sense of admiration. Think about that Brandon kid who was obsessed with the Savior legacy and Negan, or Jed and his rogues. Negan left a lasting impression on these people and they also did benefit in a way from his endeavors. Yeah it was all fear to some like Dwight, but the majority were loyal followers.
This videos for me is really how to be like Negan. Best believe I'm taking notes.
want a pancake?
baashdi hobstocking yes, pls
baashdi hobstocking Your offer of a pancake will be rewarded, but your trolling will be punished.
baashdi hobstocking actually i thumbed up his comment
baashdi hobstocking lol, that was weird. Not sure what to say to that... are you particularly sensitive to "who's getting thumbs?" lol. Would you like it if I thumbed up your comment?
4:50 "he gives his closest generals access to his wives" but the thing here is... The particular wife he is referring to is actually the REAL wife of Dwight, Sherry... Dwight got punished by having his face ironed after it is implied that he tried to help her escape from Negan who ended up forcibly marrying her. So in truth, NO Negan does NOT offer access to his "wives" to his closest generals, at least not what he's implying here. He's saying, "hey do you want to have some fun with your former wife?"
so basically he's King of the Cuckolds and he reigns suh-preme!
Negan didn't forcibly marry her, she chose him over her husband, and then went back to her husband, and then back to Negan.
Negan is very much against rape. If you are one of his wives, you don't have to work, so women line up. Dwights wife left him for Negan, and then went back. Negan doesn't punish a wife for cheating on him, but if he cheats and comes back, he irons the face of the one she cheated with. So she knowingly had Dwights face ironed so that she could go back to Negan and not have to work. It's how he turns people against each other.
MisterSinister What? She (or was it Negan?) clearly said that Negan was going to kill Dwight but she offered herself to become Negan's wife in exchange, Negan will spare Dwight. But he ironed Dwight's face as a "lighter" punishment than death. Where did you get the rest of the information?
Charisma on Command, the Walking Dead and my favourite character
Trafalger D. Water Law Fucking fuck yes
It's also the same with customer service bosses. They will only talk to you when you did something wrong but never speak to you when you went the extra mile.
The deep psychology of The Walking Dead is AMAZING!
Dude you need to do Frank Underwood
I would LOVE to hear your thoughts on him
PLEASE
Second this! 👍
Frank Underwood!!
Frank Underwood!!
oh look he is in tekken 7
Who is next? Ramsey from GOT lol
I'm actually interested in it lol
LiangHuBBB Idk why everyone is acting like fighting games have never had any weird characters. The soul calibur series had freaking Yoda.
Ayame Kajou thank you!
Inn lofðungr :) and mortal kombat has had freddy Krueger jason Alien and predator
The moment of realisation that we are witnessing a complete perfect villian is when you get a feeling that the villian's pov is also somewhat correct even if he does extremely nasty stuff .
Charisma on Command, you are amazing and your channel has been helping me for sometime. Negan is an interesting character to talk about, but there isn't a fictional charater more charismatic than Hannibal from NBC. A video about that guy would be perfect.
YES
Your videos on fictional characters are disproportionately better than your other content.
Cloud Strife ikr
"" I fed him spaghetti "" is the best one
Negan: How about a thank you
Rick: Did you realize your getting very close to my face right now
Negan: Arat, kill somebody
*BANG*
Imagine if Negan become president of USA. While Negan speaking to people he will say
Negan: who hell are you??
US people: we are Negan!
Negan: you God damn right! 😂😂
I'd vote for him could you imagine the presidential address who are you we are Negan and here that countrywide
believe me in indonesia that puppet president using this methods to control people.
his puppeteer brainwashed like half the country to identify their self as "jokowi" the puppet president's name.
they would proudly ask "who are we ?" and the people would blindly answer, "i am jokowi" thus demonized the opposition as non-jokowi and the enemy of the president and the country.
oh I do hope that in the 17th april 2019 election, the opposition win. that puppet president needs to go down.
Lets make America great again!
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Yeah make it😂😂😂
Abdirahim Saeed I would move to the US
'body language' ... he has 20+ heavily armed men on his side at all times
Michael Gs But at some point of the story negan was alone and had to convince others to follow him.
Ulaş Aldağ Yea, that's a WHOLE different subject. But put Rick and Negan alone in one room barehanded and I highly doubt Negan will have the same effect on Rick. But yea, Negan had to have certain traits to gain that spot amongst his group, but we know nothing of what that was like since we havent actually seen what he was like at the begining of the outbreak (yes comics are out there, but the show is slightly different sometimes). Rick went from a good guy cop to a complete savage. With Negan we will see the progression just backwards
+Michael Gs Ummmm.... Rick and Negan were alone in the season premiere.... and that certainly went well for Rick....
GPMM213 That was only because his group were still on their knees surrounded by all thoes Saviors and if he killed Negan then all of his people would have been killed.
Dakota Vanleer Exactly. that was the whole point of taking Rick away ALONE. it was to break him even more and show him 'look, were alone and you still wont and cant do shit' but we know theres no way he can because if he does everyone including Rick is dead
I never realized that negan is a genius. I bet he was a psychologist before the outbreak
Bartman Jones that would make alot of sense
Justin Mielke pe teacher
PE Teacher and also car SALESMAN so he knew a thing or two about psychology and "convincing" people I guess.
Firsthgyhgyhuy Lastujhujhuj that's the kind of person Negan would kill.
Close! Ping-Pong champ.
3:50 He killed a 16 year old
Season 10 I WOULD NEVER KILL A KID
It’s heavily implied that it wasn’t Negan, it was actually Simon. At that point they didn’t know Negan’s face.
He was about to kill carl when shiva came on stopped it
plague apple Carl asked him to
Ezra Bridger that was the next season, season 7 finale he was actually gonna kill Carl
@@holdentudiks9390 I thought he was talking bout that scene in Alexandria where Negan was about to kill Carl with Lucille, and he muttered "you asked me to" when Shiva ate someone and the battle happened, so my bad
If Zombie Apocalypse ever happens, there will be 755 472 people fighting for Negan-title.
"he said we needed to understand right of the bat" litterally
5:37: "you need to have clear consequences" that's so true and gives this video a solid scientific point of view. Well done! In university I also learned about leadership in psychology.
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The part about Negan that always drove me nuts was how he would say “These are the rules. Follow them, and all will be good”. Then the rules would change and leave everyone else trying to stay in line. The Saviors want half and half is whatever Negan or his underlings decide that day. That unpredictability would make it nigh impossible for me to live under his rule.
Thats what they meant by him slowly upping the game. He luls you into false sense of understanding and rules then slowly adapts them. But you will be so crushed by it all that eventually you just kinda give up and become a slave. Thats the comparison to the manson family. They knew it was wrong and bad but they still did it and they don't know why.
Think of it like this. They never really took much from lets say The Kingdom, but treated Rick's group very differently probably because of what they did to one of the Savior's outposts.
"He said we needed to understand right of the bat."
dat pun doe
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Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the Comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Remy17 i cut myself on ur edge
3:48 "you never kill those who don't deserve it, and you never kill kids"
- Negan, season 10
negan never gave access to his wives, that was a test... dwight had to decline.
No, Negan was bothered by Dwight's decline and Dwight had to come up with an excuse.
......... um nope. ? Did you miss that entire episode and Negan's tendency to test people?
and did you miss when negan said "good boy" after dwight pleased him with the responses...
Exactly. The wife that he was referring to, which is even worse, used to be Dwight's wife. He did this to remind him of his helplessness while appearing to be generous, yet knowing it would be too painful for him to accept, but he was very curious as to how he would refuse. It was the biggest mind game that he played because even the clear choice wasn't a clear choice.
Dwight saw through his nice guy act because he understands how Negan operates
This is very insightful and amazing! Thank you!
Glad you like it, thanks!
Sabrina One of my favorite villians now
Even though he killed a character I really wanted not to die
Charisma on Command it doesn't make any sense to smash Glenn when he knows Rosita is a bigger threat to his power.
Henry Ward the Kosciuszko Lion How would he know that back then though?
I always thought that he was a PE teacher before the apocalypse, because all the ones I ever had would definitely turn into psychopaths if zombies took over the world. I'd love to see a film or spin-off of Negan before the gang meets him.
that was his job
How did you know? HOW DID YOU KNOW
3:55 "right of the bat!" Lmfao you gotta love negan for his sick sense of humor!
You should do RICK Sanchez from Rick and morty next.
Tiny RIIIIIICK!
Birdperson!
I'd like to hear Jordan Peterson do a personality inventory on Negan.
I'd like to hear Jordan Peterson do a personality inventory on Jordan Peterson.
The vile eye is a great UA-cam channel. Don't think they've done Negan though
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I'm kind of over Negan. But I've seen many installments of Analysing Evil.
I've been watching movies and TV shows for a long time, about 40+ years, and aside from real life monsters portrayed in movies like Hitler, the Nazi's and serial killers, Negan is easily the most unapologetically psychotic, unremorseful, intimidating, unpredictable and charismatic fictional villain that I've seen in, well, anything. That's quite an achievement. Like everyone else, seeing him take out Glenn and Abraham in such stomach-turning fashion sickened me, but I pressed on and I'm glad I did, Jeffrey Dean Morgan is astounding in this role.
It's also about corruption: First, you get asked about something small, that doesn't upset your morals, when complying, then you do something as the lesser evil and then bit by bit you abandon your moral compass and then you feel evil yourself, or filthy like someone selling himself.
edi There is a film theory video on that with 50 Shades of Gray. you should watch it.
Then you give your wife to someone who treats you like shit, allow him to defile her in the most disgusting and degenerate ways, and brand your face with an iron if you don't like it.
Yeah, that's realistic and believable. 100% Buy that as a real character. Not someone who would TRY to do something like that and then have his throat slit by all of his own people immediately.
They will take abuse, yes. They want to be led. Yes. But they won't follow someone who ONLY gives abuse. At best they get ignored, while going without basic human needs.
Someone like Saddam Hussein, for instance, managed to stay in power because he had his royal guard, who were treated like kings. His close advisers and followers all lived like royalty. Thus the people were terrified of this huge group of people who were totally loyal.
Who does Negan have who he treats well? Nobody. Not a single person.
At best he will not brand them with an iron, he will just have nothing to do with them at all. At worst they get the iron, or killed outright.
There is living in fear, and then there is living in outright terror of doing or saying anything, and not being able to eat, sleep, wash or even have a wife that won't be disgustingly raped and mauled every day and night. And that's not a few people in that situation, it is every single one of his "followers". Just would not happen.
Why do you think they changed the Governor? Because they knew that a ridiculously over the top maniac leader like this is fine in a comic book (well not fine, but you can get away with it), but it won't translate to the screen.
That's why the Governor is so much better in the tv version, because he is a completely believable human being.
Negan is a comic book supervillain in the mold of doctor doom.
w0bbl3r What did the governor do in the comics?
w0bbl3r If you get blackmailed to spy on your boss, they will probably ask for harmless Intel first so that you feel relieved at first. Only then they ask what they really want, but then you have allready betrayed your boss.... It is a similar story when you try to bribe someone or try to get someone involved in crimes. It's a pretty universal tactic.
" We needed to understand "right off the bat" " 😂😂😂😂 sounds like some shit he would say
This was really well done, and I found it handy in writing fanfiction as I work with a Negan-like character.
Yeah I don't think Negan has the ability to affect people without violence. The implicit threat of violence was behind literally every "power move" he made. You can't honestly separate Negan's violence from his "dominance."
Yeah a lot of this requires some sort of "hold" on the person and hinges on intimidation. A lot of other more micro behaviors from his body language and the way he talks are pretty substantial as well.
he admits it himself something like "youll go a lot farther with a few kind words and a swing of lucille than just a few kind words"
He actually admits this to Ezekiel later in the series This is a profoundly misconceived video
Actually, he created that place with power so people stayed at that place and they wanted to be like him because he’s a understandable guy once you get to know him, so he made deals with communities and that’s how it works :D
He’s so evil, people may survive in result of his system but his system still circles round to benefit him and his people only, he just uses people, I think he’d be a lot more successful getting his people to work with him out of respect and not fear. I can’t help but like him though he’s just too cool 😂
But with respect. That's when some people start to betray other people and then craziness happens. With fear, everyone will be terrified into what Negan wants. Respect will take longer as well since they don't really know him when you first meet him.
@@captaincosy Fear is easy. It might work at first but when the opportunity presents itself, people are more than likely to betray you. With respect and love people are less likely to betray. There's no guarantee betrayal won't happen but it'll happen a lot slower with love, respect and loyalty than with fear.
@@deadlysword1000 Yeah. That's what I'm sayin.
@@deadlysword1000 the problem is with being a leader fear gets you a bullet in the back of the head & love and respect gets you seen as weak and stepped on. I dont know why anybody would want to be a leader in the 1st place. It rarely ever lasts.
I dont understand why nobody shot negans head off. Its obvious what he was doing from the get go. Fear means nothing when everybody has guns.
Thanks for teaching me how to be a super villain. I only needed a few pointers, and your video totally helped me out.
I’ve always wondered what would’ve happened if the governor was alive in this season and went up against negan. It would’ve been cool to see a war between both of there groups or all 3. Alexandria, Saviours, Woodbury.
In the lineup situation The Governor would be who Negan kills because (like Abraham) he is the biggest threat and would not have backed down.
If the Governor came across Negan he would kill him immediately. The Gov wasn't fussed about breaking people and controlling them like Negan. He would see resources and kill everyone until he had them.
The interesting thing would be to see them have an equal one on one chat. Both of them were extremely charismatic, there would definitely be some killer lines there.
Not sure if you've ever looked at Deadwood, but, perhaps more than any other main character from the TV Golden Age, Al Swearaengen has an almost unspeakable ability to simultaneously cajole, charm, and outwit people. I would love to hear your thoughts on him. ALso, it's a hell of a show.
Swearaengen was awesome. I wish they made more seasons
Frank Underwood at some point?
YES!
Yes!!!!
Done.
Congrats on 600k Charlie!! :D
Negan is one of the best villains ever created. He really did an amazing job.
negan kills abe on tv cause A) his character arc was over B) the way abes dressed and his demeanor told negan thats the backbone of this group and most likely to revolt against the saviors , the saviors dont compare to the whisperers !
the whisperers are shit.
Its slow as fuck this season we wont get to the whisperers til season 9 fuuuuuck dude
Vega Crux Abe was such a fucking boss
Chris Harvey until Negan killed their leader.
Rogue Pylon what?! negan kills alpha?
Negan is my favorite caretcar in the walking dead tv series.He plays his role soo damn well.
Swiftor lilko he's my favorite caretcar too!
Swiftor lilko carrotcar?
Swiftor lilko You just blow in from Stupid Town?
You do realize she might be from another country.
Do they not have spell check in her country?
"How Negan bodied everyone in Tekken 7." 😅👍
Dudes combos are insane
1:10 when Rick looked away he wasn’t scared he was swallowing his pride so no one dies
"We need to understand, right off the bat" THAT PUN, NOW I GOT IT HAHAHA Also thought it was hilarious being close to that guy's age and also being called Rory. Anyway